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OOC: This thread is entirely OOC. Please read below if you don't know much about Acigoo before you enter the RP. Anything not answered here, just ask. Thanks! If you're an Acigoo nation (name for nations involved in the original incident) and something is missing, feel free to post!

Acigoo is a foreign substance that came to Earth in the 2nd half of '03. Many, many years ago NS time. It arrived on a meteoroit, wiping out multiple nations.
Acigoo continually grows and spreads.
Nuclear attacks upon it will only speed it up and make it stronger.
Water will only double its spreading speed (thus, islands are NOT a good place to try to take it to...)
Conventional weaponary will not kill it, and will only do minor damage to the creators.
There is no material native to Earth that can store it.
Electro-magnetic fields will not hold it.
Acid base's will not kill it (it will only repel the base)
In RP's, please do not say "I put it in a different dimension" - you'll be ignored.
It creates creatures - First, simple single-celled things, but within a week, it would be creating small "kind" creatures. Do not be fooled. Within 2-3 weeks, there will be much larger, very deadly flesh-eatting creatures, which will attack any and all life aside from eachother.
Conventional weapons will do minor damage. Takes between 5-20 (sometimes more) men and their weapons to kill one creature. (They also like playing with tanks, too.)
Nuclear attacks will do the same to the creatures as it will to the Acigoo.
No, Godzilla cannot kill Acigoo.
Freezing does not work, as we have found no boiling or freezing point of Acigoo.
Vacumes will only work with small amounts of Acigoo.
Sending it in spaceships (heavily modded at that) work only with small amounts of Acigoo.
Anti-gravity does not work.
The settings to hold as much as you can have long been losted... unfortunately.
It ceases growing in space... it's getting it up there that poses the problem.

Then please provide a way to kill it...because right now it looks like one of those uber things that are, for all practical purposes, a godmod.....

I was involved in the first incident, and I successfully got rid of the stuff. I just can't remember how it was done.

Freeze it.

Well, I think that would work. I wasn't around for the last outbreak, so I wouldn't know.

The answer is simple: Don't use conventional weaponry.

Looks like time to break out the School Girl Brigade...

Phew, glad we have magic, and were on another planet...in a differnt dimension. Haha, dont send the Acigoo to another dimension, send yourself :P

Freezing didn't work. There was a way, but there's a space-tech nation that helped out.

There was some that did get away, however, using a HEAVILY modified space ship, the last bit was sent into orbit (However, once it got into space, we found it grew no more. It seemed to just stop. No, anti-gravity is not the answer. We donno why space does it.

Note that only a very small amount could go on each ship, this it would be impractical to do this with so much Acigoo.

Put it in a vacume maybe?

Freezing didn't work. There was a way, but there's a space-tech nation that helped out.

There was some that did get away, however, using a HEAVILY modified space ship, the last bit was sent into orbit (However, once it got into space, we found it grew no more. It seemed to just stop. No, anti-gravity is not the answer. We donno why space does it.

Intense radiation of types humanity cannot yet reproduce.

Put it in a vacume maybe?
That only works in small amounts. Thus, it would not work for the growing crisis we've got.

Freezing didn't work. There was a way, but there's a space-tech nation that helped out.

There was some that did get away, however, using a HEAVILY modified space ship, the last bit was sent into orbit (However, once it got into space, we found it grew no more. It seemed to just stop. No, anti-gravity is not the answer. We donno why space does it.

Suck it into a vacum and make sure it doesn't come in contact with any other matter. Can't feed, can't grow, can't do jack....but I'm sure no-one will want me to bring in the Alchemists and my Sol fleet.....*imagines Sol fleet grabbing interstellar lighters, dumping their atmosphere, then beaming Acigoo aboard*

Then please provide a way to kill it...because right now it looks like one of those uber things that are, for all practical purposes, a godmod.....
There isn't a way to kill it that we know of. But, there are ways to stall it. The only practical way we're looking for. There are other ways, but it only works with very small amounts of Acigoo. (Good for clean-ups after almost all has been gotten rid of...)

How about.....NON DAIRY CREAMER! Nobody knows how that works! You never know.

Actually, in all seriousness, check my reply in the other thread. Not the RP thread, the annoncement one.

I have an idea, stick our heads in the sand and see no Acigoo.

Well seriously, I think freezing would have a chance. Maybe exposing it to Radon can work.

I have an idea, stick our heads in the sand and see no Acigoo.

Well seriously, I think freezing would have a chance. Maybe exposing it to Radon can work.
The problem is, we have not yet found any boiling or freezing point for Acigoo. Doesn't mean there is none, but so far, we have not found anything.

Ooh. Ooh, I have an idea my super WMD the Firebomb. It's so powerful it burns through all the oxygen in an area after it has destroyed all life. Or we could unleash Weyr's Sol fleet...

What you just described is pretty much the fuel air bomb.

I found a better place about acids and bases. Again, use only if you want. This is an excerpt stating the most powerful bases. The rest is very confusing.

Strong Bases
A strong base ionizes 100%
For example, 0.30 M NaOH ionizes to 0.30 M [Na+] and 0.30 M [OH-]
NaOH => Na+ + OH-
0.30 M none none before ionization
none 0.30 M 0.30 M after ionization

Because NaOH is a strong base, the reaction goes to completion, leaving no NaOH. Examples of Strong Bases

Formula
LiOH
NaOH
KOH
RbOH
CsOH
Ca(OH)2
Sr(OH)2
Ba(OH)2 Name
lithium hydroxide
sodium hydroxide
potassium hydroxide
rubidium hydroxide
cesium hydroxide
calcium hydroxide
strontium hydroxide
barium hydroxide

Site: http://www.chemistrycoach.com/acids.htm

Fire basicly acts as a energy sorce for the acigoo. IF you have played any of the Fallout games you'd know that thanks to the massive radiation the Deathclaw came into existance much faster. Same thing here

What about hitting it with lots of napalm and fuel-air explosives?

EDIT: I'm not the only one to have thought of this...

Ooh. Ooh, I have an idea my super WMD the Firebomb. It's so powerful it burns through all the oxygen in an area after it has destroyed all life. Or we could unleash Weyr's Sol fleet...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but oxygen actually prevents acids from spreading. So that would just make it worse.

What you just described is pretty much the fuel air bomb.
*shrugs* So? It burns at twenty thousand degrees celsius.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but oxygen actually prevents acids from spreading. So that would just make it worse.
I realize this information might not be useful but IT BURNS AT TWENTY THOUSAND DEGREES CELSIUS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD. MOST EVERYTHING IS WIPED AT AROUND TWELVE THOUSAND DEGREES CELSIUS. Oh crap I hit the caps lock button and I'm to lazy to go back and fix it.

Alright, c'mon guys, calm down. Can you guys just relax, have fun, and enjoy a good/fun/tough RP? Ya, some nations might be destroyed, or nearly destroyed, but hey, no pain, no gain, right? After all, that's what happened in 2003, and no one fussed over it then, so why fuss about it now?

CE, if nukes only made it stronger, your FAB would probobly only do the same. Im guessing that Acigoo LIKES heat. Remember Evolution?

Guys, just shut up and RP. If you don't like what you see, then go away. No, fire wont do anything, except maybe feed it. If you want to, test it in the RP and we'll see.

So, apart from fleeing the planet ourselves, _is_ there another way to get rid of it? Howabout storing it in tanks of strong bases? If it rerejcts the base, it could be kept contained.

Ehehe.

A warning to all, i've just dumped napalm and dirt bombs all over the acigoo. The stuff is spreading like crazy, and evolving like.....

Well, remember Evolution? Remember when they napalmed the cave full of apes and plants and stuff? Remember what happened then?

Yeah, same sorta thing. They're just evolving out of control.

Oh, and almost every nation is running like hell from the city now.

what if we dug a big hole?
And kept it there?
Or sent it all to people we hate?

If we dug a big hole, we'd give the stuff free reign to eat into the Earth itself - if it feeds off of heat, imagine what it would do once it reached the layers of magma?!

....uh, it would get a tan?

Let's stick to realistic ideas, shall we?

What will the effect on the Acigoo be if I used an industrial strength laser on it?

Thrives on heat, lazer= bad idea...
What if we isolated it on one place, and somehow blew that piece of earth into space?

....it would just eat it's way through whatever you put it on, then fall back to Earth on it's way up. Hell, the stuff can fly now, so it could just fly off whatever you put it on.

....shit....
Would fat people eat it?

Maybe, but it would kinda just burn through them and fly away, even more pissed off than before.

We could destroy the sun! Thus freezing the world!

The stuff doesn't freeze or boil.

:p

I got an idea. We waste Rinceweed's orbital fleet and leave it for the acigoo then we start running like hell.

How about we fire the Earth into a black hole, thus sparing all us Space Faring Future Tech nations!

Thats classfied as a god mod to

I got an idea. We waste Rinceweed's orbital fleet and leave it for the acigoo then we start running like hell.

Phalanix, to the best of my knowledge, there is NO space fleet on NS that can take mine on and stand a chance. For one thing, i've been fitting my ships with anti-nanite defenses, and they were the only things that could ever take down an Orbital Construct without using a Planet Killer-esque laser, and most people just call down the fury of an ignore on those anyway (Hence the lack of Deathstars on NS).

....so yeah, if you want to try and take out my space fleet, be my guest. You'll by up against 58 Orbital Constructs, ranging from 20 Km in Diameter to 40 Km in Diameter, along with their large defence fleets. Quite simply, you'll be burnt toast before you can say 'We Surrender'.

(Oh, and on a related note, since I mentioned the Deathstar, I thought it only fair to mention that I can take out a Deathstar with sheer brute force and come out relatively unscathed. No prissy 'Exhaust Vents' needed)

Jesus man can't you take a joke.

Oh, I wasn't complaining. I'm literally hoping for a nice space battle. It's fun to have the upper-hand for once. (On the ground, I have barely anything. In space, i'm god. I quite like the balancing out)

OOC: Can RInceweed really claim to have such an unbeatable fleet having been here for like...9 months? I mean surely some nations that have been here for a year or more, could take it down.

OOC:
You mean something like this:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=351396
?

OOC: Can RInceweed really claim to have such an unbeatable fleet having been here for like...9 months? I mean surely some nations that have been here for a year or more, could take it down.

Don't worry, i'm ressurected. To be honest, i'm not actually sure about my exact starting date. It was sometime around January of 2003, when I found Nationstates by sheer luck, and was gobsmacked by the sheer scope of it when I looked around the forums.

Weapons:
Unspecified amount of Point Defense Weapons (Silver Turtle)

Other:
Olympic Swimming Pool (ST)

....hehe. It sounds like the Swimming pool is one of the weapons.

Oh, and yeah, that's one of the few super-ships in NS that can go toe-to-toe with one of my larger Orbitals and have a good chance of winning.

OOC: ah, ok then :)

He also mentions something like seven planetbusting weapons...how many orbitals do you have? :)

58.

Yeah, lots. My entire nation (Apart from a few million on a colony on Antartica) lives in these things.

They range from 20 Km in size, to 40 Km in size, with the largest (And obviously most important) ones having the most cutting edge weaponry (And lots of it!), and the smaller ones being a little bit behind the times (Some have outdated missiles, slower mass drivers, and even lack void cannons)

[EDIT]: Wait....how many planetbusters?!

Oh....to quote Kyle Katarn (Woo! Jedi Academy 'n' whatnot!), 'I have a baaad feeling about this...'

Oh, and I should mention, these aren't designed for offensive purposes. They have ridiculous amounts of firepower, but nothing for ultra-long range bombardment or anything like that (Only the capital ships of their defense fleets can do that.)

OOC: Can RInceweed really claim to have such an unbeatable fleet having been here for like...9 months? I mean surely some nations that have been here for a year or more, could take it down.
Being NS elder doesn't mean jack, but yeah, I don't think you can claim to have the unbeatable fleet... I could claim that my peeps use magic that simply kills off all more-sophisticated-than-gunpowder tech and his peeps would suffocate and die in the space they so love... but I won't, because that would be god-modding.

*Ahem*

The reason for my fleet being so powerful is that my entire fucking nation lives in them.

Basically, each one of these is like a gigantic city (To be more exact, like a bigger version of an American State.). Now, would it make sense that people who have to put their lives in the hands of these Orbital Stations on a constant basis (Quite literally their entire lives) would decide to make them weak little things? No, it wouldn't.

Basically, every time a space fleet attacks one of my Orbitals, it's like a ground army attacking part of the U.S.A. Without extreme firepower and a massive numerical advantage, yer screwed.

Without extreme firepower and a massive numerical advantage, yer screwed.
Yeah, but that's the beauty of NS, where all war is fought with words... someone else can claim to _have_ the extreme firepower and massive numerical advantage needed... *g*

Oh, and not a question to Rinceweed specifically, but I'm just wondering how all the space nations and their huge orbitals fit in the space around Earth? *g* Or do they mean by an 'orbital' actually something orbiting the Sun? Just wondering... :)

Invincible nanowank, unbeatable spacewank!

This is why a lot of good RPers avoid II like the plague.

Decided with the current return of Acigoo - albeit morphed a bit - it would be a good time to bump this thread. I'll let Phalanix post the info on this morphed version.

So, space stops it, but recreating space conditions doesn't, wow....thats daft

So, space stops it, but recreating space conditions doesn't, wow....thats daft
lol, Acigoo is interesting stuff.

Acigoo isn't a pure element, we just have to find out what known elements are in it. Then nullify each element at a time. until we get to the most important one. Or we need to invent non Reactive water. Or Basgoo to cancel it out.

Ok the new stuff that I have dubed Acigoo Gamma (following the trend of acigoo strains [Alpha and Beta])

The new stuff is a mix of the Black Phoenix virus that once ravaged Phalanix. The virus would infect the host then elivate their internal temp to a unatural high, induce a blood lust insanity, and finaly one week after infection the burst into flames and the ashes spred the virus.
Now with these new qualities (the acigoo that was mutated was a orginal strain) the acigoo has black shades in it like spots and the creatures at to say the least things Hell would turn back out of fear.
A new twist is that the creatures are capable of infecting other beings with that virus the homeless man (Albert) suffered from by biting/stinging them and so on.

*scratches head*

Is it just me or did someone watch Evolution, get drunk and then come on II?

OMFG HOW DID YOU KNOW!?!?!
Na I'm kidding. I didn't get drunk or watch Evolution (havn't seen it in years).

I was referring to acigoo as a whole, not your post. Acigoo makes absolutely no scientific sense and yet it is touted as being "modern tech". I dont understand why people accept it. It's just stupid and yet it looks set to become the next II fad. :rolleyes:

Ah well didn't tell. But it is actualy multi-tech. Besides it basicly permits FT, MT, PMT, PFT, PT nations to actauly work together without breaking down into some argument then going off and having the FT start to kill everythng that moves. Besides it makes for a good RP when done corrrectly without the blatent n00ish actions and godmoding

Unstoppable all destroying goo with no scientific basis makes good RP? Riiiiight.

Unstoppable all destroying goo with no scientific basis makes good RP? Riiiiight.
See, the problem is, the majority of the people from the first Acigoo war in '03 seem to be gone or inactive... Hey, it made for good RP's in the first two wars... it was the third that ruined it... :( And, btw, we were able to get rid of it in the first two wars... so it's not completely unstoppable... just very hard... not something you can go and clean up in about 5 minutes. And it usually results in a few nations being completely and utterly destroyed.

Well since you all know what Acigoo is and know what its resistant too. Why not create another biological virus? Something that effects Acigoo. Maybe some kind of virus that breaks down Acigoo, or takes over Acigoo and changes it properties.

Yes, I know all that does is make another enemy to fight, but prehaps make this biological weapon have a weakness we know about?

Or prehaps create a biological weapon that MAKES Acigoo have some kind of weakness. Even if its only moderately weak to this substance or kind of assault. Even if it takes five soldiers to kill one Acigoo, its better than having to mass an army to kill a hundred of the critters.

Well it's kinda hard to get a genetic/atomic break down of Acigoo when you try to get a sample or probe it with a toool the thing will be melted (unless the sample is held in a vacume sealed 0G case but only very small samples)

Or examine it when its inside an infected person, just keep VERY protective armor on. Its not like you need to be the gentle with the subject, their doomed anyway.

How about dumping different things on it and seeing what happens? I say ammonia first. Or analyze the creatures spawned from the stuff. And I still say make a Base-Goo and dump it in the middle of the junk. They should cancel each other out. Of course then you'll have one half covered in dead Acigoo and the other half covered in dead basgoo but...