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Nanakaland, recently reresurrected (resurrected for the second time), will bring back the Legion of Defense. The Legion of Defense was a defensive organization, designed on defending its members (especially the weaker nations, known as protectorates). If anyone is interested on joining the new LoD, post here.

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Legion_of_Defense/

OOC: I was actually going to t-gram you about that...


Euroslavia is interested in re-joining the Legion of Defense.

OOC: Wooo. Good to see you again. Here I was thinking you were gone forever, but a second time you return.



Zoogiedom was a former member of the Legion of Defense, but wishes to state that it will not endeavor to join the newly resurrected alliance. We do this not out of bitterness or hostility, but rather due to the shift in government policy since we last were members.

Zoogiedom wishes to persue formal friendly relations with Nanakaland, and wholeheartedly supports the LoD, but would like to make clear that it is now pursuing individual alliances almost exclusively.

[i]Respectfully,
Zoogiedom Foreign Ministry

OOC: Welcome back!! Just to let you know, I never took your entry off of the .::The New Official List of National Leaders::. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=327933). I don't know what it was, but I had a feeling you would return. Glad to have you back!

IC: The Northrop-Grumman Corporation is very interested in rejoining the Legion of Defense. The original LoD helped us rise from a small ten million republic to an almost two billion space empire. We wish to offer the same chance that was offered to us back in January, 2004 to weaker nations in today's restless world.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/TheQ2005/5x09_0010.jpg
Brigadier General Jack O'Neill (retired)
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, and President
The Northrop-Grumman Corporation
Member - Council of Air Powers (http://s7.invisionfree.com/council_ap)
Member - The Reformed Extra Solar Union of Systems

The problem with the new Legion is that we'll have to work twice as hard to get it working again. One man can't rule the LoD alone. The entire Council should have admin power on the forums (because the old LoD took about an hour a day by me for upkeep at its height).

Should we keep our old forums and remake them or shall we create new forums and start clean?

Whats the requirements to join?

OOC

We should go find the thread where the LoD members were listed so you don't have to reinvent the wheel again.

[OOC: Yeah. Or we could try to find where the old forums are located. There's a list there, too.]

Official Statement:

Interessssting, we wissssh to join thissss legion of defensssse. Can we?

As an old member before you died N, I would like to rejoin.

5CN would like to join, adding another alliance to its portfolio of six current alliances.

Momanguise would very much like to join this defensive allaince.

Okay. Now that we have sparked interest, we need to find a way to bring back the alliance. Shall we create new forums or remake the old ones? Shall we create a new charter or just modify the old one? Shall we have elections for the council? Etc. If you are interested in joining (or rejoining) the LoD post here. We need to also discuss how to bring it back in this thread. Any suggestions?

Well hello.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Right Wing Collective
A January 2003 Nation

I say that we should make new forums, but keep the old charter. Slight modifications, even though I saw nothing wrong with it when I joined.

As a nation with continued interest in the theory and backing of the Legion of Defence, the United Arabian Nation of Bree Tonia would like to re-apply for this group. We thank Nanakaland for considering this, and hope it all continues smoothly.

{{OOC: Nanakaland, Im an experienced forum Admin, if you want I can try and keep them clean and such as I only work part-time with plenty of net time, your call though my comrade.}}

I say that we should make new forums, but keep the old charter. Slight modifications, even though I saw nothing wrong with it when I joined.
I agree with that too.

OOC: Hey NG, long time no see....

Yeah, slight modifications should be fine...maybe a few new laws or something, nothing major is necessary.

>::bump::<

Now we must discuss where to start. Any suggestions?

EDIT: Here is the charter. Feel free for suggestions to improve and ammend it.

Article 1
It is hereby declared that from now on, our organization shall go by the name of the Legion of Defence (LoD). Its purpose is to protect its members, especially the weaker Protectorates. We also do peacekeeping missions and rebuild nations in need. Our main service is the NationStates Protectorate Service, but we also have the League of Saviors.

Article 2
It is hereby declared that all Protectors shall have an NAP with the opportunity to forge stronger alliances. Furthermore, be it declared that no Protector shall attack either another Protector or Protectorate or, place sanctions upon them. Should this happen, the Council should be given the power to make rulings. It is okay, however, if the Protector or Protectorate being attacked or having sanctions placed upon it is breaking the LoD rules.

Article 3
It is hereby declared that all Protectors shall provide defense capabilities to any Protectorate in the case of a Nation outside this organization attacking with no provocation. In case of bi-lateral military actions between a Protectorate and an outside nation, this organization will only aid the Protectorate after deliberation and vote between all the Protector Nations.

Article 4
It is hereby declared that no preventive military action shall occur to aid Protectors or Protectorates. The main reason for this alliance military should always be persuasive. Only when diplomatic and persuasive means concluded with no results, and the inner or outer threat is turning into an attack against the sovereignty of the Nation in question, shall the military deployment take place.

Article 5
It is hereby declared that if the Protectorate or Protector is the aggressor no protection shall be provided for them in their conflict. A Protectorate or Protector shall only be held to be an aggressor in a conflict once the rest of the members (or just Protectors?) have held a vote on the matter. This vote should not be held until the nation(s) accused of being an aggressor have been given a chance to explain their actions, in a closed meeting if the accused nations case for action includes sensitive information that the accused nation does not want divulged in an open forum. If this vote does not produce a majority, then it shall be assumed that the accused nation is not an aggressor. (Or the President gets the deciding vote)

Article 6
It is hereby declared that once the drafting stage is done, all articles will be amended and voted upon and then the charter shall be released. The charter is able to be amended at any time after its creation with amendments.

Article 7
It is hereby declared that as a part of the Legion of Defense family, a new branch will be formed. This branch, the League of Saviours, will be a war relief effort. At anytime needed, the countries in that branch will go out and stop riots, return peace, and provide aid. If needed, they will set up a temporary government. At some times, they will even be involved in terrorist situations. A Chief-of-Operations, a General (Helping bring temporary governments, providing aid, and protecting a currently unstable government) and a Peacekeeping Director (Peacekeeping and Riot Control) will be put into office.

Article 8
It is hereby declared that the LoD shall take on members of pre-existing Alliances and Groups of countries, upon Council Approval, to be Ambassadors for their Group. They will have a small number of specific duties between their two groups, in order to promote cooperation. These duties shall include:

1) To keep communications between Alliances/Groups, for instance relaying decisions which affect both Groups.

2) To put forward proposed Alliances or joint military/diplomatic actions from one Group to the other.

3) To encourage one Group to support and help the other.

Other duties may be assigned specifically for communications between the LoD and another Group, in addition to the above duties.

Well, one of the main things is to make it look more official (and make sure there is one spelling throughout). We could probably pass several ammendments in the first days of the Legion just to get it kicked off again.

Key word in sentence above charter quote: suggestions. I'll start with the suggestions.

Ammendment Proposal
The Council elections shall start as soon as 15 members join. Then, we shall hold a vote on all suggestions and ammendments to see how to improve the LoD. To make the LoD more powerful, all Council members shall have equal power, except for one speaker, elected from the Council to voice their opinions to the Legion and publicly.

Every two months there should be elections. If a Council nation ceased to exist, there should be elections within ten days to replace the Council member. The number of Council members shall be fixed at nine nations unless a future ammendment changes it. The Charter shall be slightly modified for spelling, grammar, and consistancy.

This ammendment shall be the first ammendment voted on. Unlike all other ammendments, this shall be voted on by the members, not the Council members, as soon as 15 members join, which will coincide with the Council elections.


Feel free to post suggegested ammendments and correct mistakes in the Charter. We will discuss the resurrection of the LoD until we get 15 members, after which I will launch the forums and hold elections. All other elections should last a week, but this election will stop when the Legion gets 25 members.

We would like to join the Legion of Defense.

We could start by making an official application thread, and possibly by building a forum.

I have much experience with forums (ask anybody who knows me, especially euroslavia and the old DA forums), so if you need help I can do it.

Only those who have experience with creation of forums should know the location until it is publicly released (at 15 members).

I have experience....

What kind of forum are we making? Proboards, invisionfree, etc.??

Can I have a yay or a nay for membership please?

What kind of forum are we making? Proboards, invisionfree, etc.??

InvisionFree. That's the same type forum as the old LoD. If you want to help right now, create a custom skin (or find someone who can).

The Federation would like to join the Legion of Defense.

The Commssariat of Diplomacy
The Socialist Federation of Hallad

Euroslavia is interested in re-joining the Legion of Defense.

Being an old member, you can rejoin.

The Northrop-Grumman Corporation is very interested in rejoining the Legion of Defense. The original LoD helped us rise from a small ten million republic to an almost two billion space empire. We wish to offer the same chance that was offered to us back in January, 2004 to weaker nations in today's restless world.

The same thing goes for you. You're in.

As an old member before you died N, I would like to rejoin.

As a nation with continued interest in the theory and backing of the Legion of Defence, the United Arabian Nation of Bree Tonia would like to re-apply for this group. We thank Nanakaland for considering this, and hope it all continues smoothly.

You're both in, too.

All old members are welcome on rejoining and shall enter at the rank of Protector (and can run for elections).

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Now for the new members. You are all welcome to join the Legion, but once the Council is chosen, we will vote on whether you are a permanent member and whether you are a Protectorate or Protector in rank.

That applies to:

UNIverseVERSE
Momanguise
Hogsweat
Hallad

To all new members, if your population is over 500 million, you may also run for a Council position. If a new member is elected, then he/she are automatically a Protector and doesn't need the Council to vote on their membership.

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That brings the member count to 8. It takes 15 to launch the LoD again and hold elections.

All Council members will be either Admins or Super Moderators (mods with power over all forums) depending on their experience with forums and ability to be trusted.

Witzgall is very good at creating forums. I also have some experience with creating forums (the old Terrorist University forum).

Telegram me if you want to help create the forums. Then I'll create an admin account for you and TG a reply (this is only for people I trust like Euroslav and Witzgall). Don't forget - if you want a position of power, run for the Council. [If the LoD gets very large, there might be more than just 9.] Sorry. I won't let total strangers be admins, no matter how good you are. Don't bother TGing me if I don't know you.

Alrighty then, IF it is. I'm going to start working on the CSS and in like 1 hour or so it'll be beautiful!

One question for Nana and Euro-

Are we going for light or dark?

As a former member right from the beginning (or thereabouts) of the LoD, I would like to rejoin....

The Holy Empire Of Christopher Thompson would be honored to join this great defence pact.

One question for Nana and Euro-

Are we going for light or dark?

Light.

What about us?

As a former member right from the beginning (or thereabouts) of the LoD, I would like to rejoin....

You're in again.

The Holy Empire Of Christopher Thompson would be honored to join this great defence pact.

You're in.

Christopher, like I said earlier:

Now for the new members. You are all welcome to join the Legion, but once the Council is chosen, we will vote on whether you are a permanent member and whether you are a Protectorate or Protector in rank.

To all new members, if your population is over 500 million, you may also run for a Council position. If a new member is elected, then he/she are automatically a Protector and doesn't need the Council to vote on their membership.

The member count is now up to 10.

What about us?

I already said that you're in.

Oh, sorry. Thanks.

Nana- check your TGs, I redesigned it with a mixture kind of.

Thanks. Look forward to registering on the website...

Yes, people keep speaking of this wounderful website.
WHERE is it?
linky or adress please!

It's under construction. It'll take it being complete and the sign up of 15 members before it becomes public.

I have the basic framework of the forums done. I'm waiting on 15 members to kick off the alliance. That's 5 more for those who weren't following the thread.

I'll add more forums and sub-forums and rules as the alliance grows.

Um... What about me?

Um... What about me?

You're back in if you want to. If so, that'd bring the member count to 11.

OOC Post:
Already said welcome back in another thread, but I think you didn't saw it so... Welcome! :D

I could start rping, I was going to do this myself, believe it or not, but you came back. Count me in again.

The old forums are still there, I don't think there should be new ones, just clean them up; but anyway count me in to mod the old or new ones.

About the ammendment, I don't think only Council members should vote on everything except charter modifications... that will drive away a lot of people and I just think it's plain wrong. But I'm sure there will be discussion about this when the forums go public... so we'll see.

Already created new forums. They're under construction. The old forums'll probably all turned to archives for reference.

OOC Post:
Already said welcome back in another thread, but I think you didn't saw it so... Welcome! :D

I could start rping, I was going to do this myself, believe it or not, but you came back. Count me in again.

The old forums are still there, I don't think there should be new ones, just clean them up; but anyway count me in to mod the old or new ones.

About the ammendment, I don't think only Council members should vote on everything except charter modifications... that will drive away a lot of people and I just think it's plain wrong. But I'm sure there will be discussion about this when the forums go public... so we'll see.

Oh and you're in again. That brings member count to 12. 3 more members until the relaunch.

Doesn't that bring it to 12 members?

Thanks for catching my mistake. 3 More! Come on! Join!

{{OOC: Lets not sound desperate, we are all Mature Cheddars here, simply would be nice to have 3 more members.}}


:D :D :D :D

Well, the forums are ready. It'll kick off at 15 members.

w00t!

:)

Yes. Witzgall and I have been working for hours behind the scenes to get the forums ready.

Exactly

Yeah even though Nanakaland didn't do squat.

lol.... ;)

I, Jocghem Leeri, crowned King of Asurnahb, wish to enroll my Nation, as well as my People into the Legion of Defence. Although we are a small Nation, with only an estimated 564,000,000 people, we believe that our nation, with our devoute belief in the protection of people and of state, will be a valuable addition to your ranks.

We are currently refitting and building our armed forces, our most complete branch is the Army. Though it is small, its soldiers are well trained and well equipped. Our divions are available for peace-keeping, as well as defence missions.

We also have a rather well developed logistical system, a portion of which can be used under the banner of the LoD for logstics and humanitarian support protectorate and protector allies, if you so choose to allow us into your orginizations.

If you believe that we have the requirments to join such a fine orginization, please let us know. We wish to serve our fellow man, our people grow discontent with our relative isolationism.

Jogchem Leeri,
King of Asurnahb

Exactly

Yeah even though Nanakaland didn't do squat.

lol.... ;)

Of course not because Witzgall only did formatting while Nanakaland did all of the rules and forum creating.

;)

I, Jocghem Leeri, crowned King of Asurnahb, wish to enroll my Nation, as well as my People into the Legion of Defence. Although we are a small Nation, with only an estimated 564,000,000 people, we believe that our nation, with our devoute belief in the protection of people and of state, will be a valuable addition to your ranks.

We are currently refitting and building our armed forces, our most complete branch is the Army. Though it is small, its soldiers are well trained and well equipped. Our divions are available for peace-keeping, as well as defence missions.

We also have a rather well developed logistical system, a portion of which can be used under the banner of the LoD for logstics and humanitarian support protectorate and protector allies, if you so choose to allow us into your orginizations.

If you believe that we have the requirments to join such a fine orginization, please let us know. We wish to serve our fellow man, our people grow discontent with our relative isolationism.

Jogchem Leeri,
King of Asurnahb

You're in, bringing the member count to 13. That means only 2 more members are needed to launch the forums.

....and that is why the forum is so pretty. :p

Yeah. That's why you had to go to the IVF support forums to fix several formatting bugs.

Actually I fixed them myself...I asked, but only one person responded and they didn't really know what they were doing.

Anyways...Join up! The LoD is a great alliance for new and old nations!

Yes. Ignore the bickering of the LoD admins and just join so you can see our hard work, the forums.

OOC: :headbang:

God those bugs were evil...

IC:

The Legion of Defense offers security for the smaller and less secure nations, and a great alliance for older and more powerful nations. In its prime, the Legion of Defense was a large and very influential alliance in the NationStates world.

Now that the founder, Nanakaland, has risen from Lazarus, we wish to resurrect the powerful Legion and bring in newcomers to the alliance!

So, whether your nation is old, new, or in between, it does not matter! Please sign up in this thread to become a member of the LoD...this is a chance of a lifetime! :D

I concur with what Witzgall said. In fact, he beat me too it. :mad:

Bump for more views and potential members :)

We should have a parallel thread in the NS forum to make sure more people hear of the LoD.

You do that :)

I'll stay here :p

Bump

OOC: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. :)

Bumpo

Come on. Two more...

Free lollies for all who join!

Free lollies for all who join!

Nana...I like his style. Can I keep him?

:p

No. Free $25 billion dollar aid packages to whomever joins!

Hey Nana were you counting all the other members who talked about this out of this thread...? :)

25% off in my storefront for LoD members (See Siggy for Link)

;)

Hey Nana were you counting all the other members who talked about this out of this thread...? :)

No. Quote what they said outside this thread and I'll count it.

Did Euroslavia post in here?

I'll trade you that 25 billion care package for an equal amount of Lolly Pops. Of assorted flavores. Prefferably with either a toosty roll center, or bubble gum.

Did Euroslavia post in here?

Yeah. Post #2.

Us? Aid package?! HA! Funny. Really, I'll give 'em for free.

On The Kingdom of the Midlands regional mesage board:

Oh man, count me in, I'm just too lazy to go there.

Look it up if you don't belive me. The member count is now 14. One more needed...

Ask SAVX...he'll join.

Senate Bill No. 1453.1
"Petition For Joining The Legion of Defense"

The Senate of the Republic of Tiborita, along with the Presidents approval, on behalf of the people of Tiborita, hereby petition the Legion of Defense for enterence to the alliance. We accept the treaties parameters, and grant the President the power needed in order to fufill all treaty obligations, should The Republic of Tiborita be admitted.


Signed,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/blame_tibor/sig.gif

President Tibor

Already TGed SAVX. Let's see if he replies...

Senate Bill No. 1453.1
"Petition For Joining The Legion of Defense"

The Senate of the Republic of Tiborita, along with the Presidents approval, on behalf of the people of Tiborita, hereby petition the Legion of Defense for enterence to the alliance. We accept the treaties parameters, and grant the President the power needed in order to fufill all treaty obligations, should The Republic of Tiborita be admitted.


Signed,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/blame_tibor/sig.gif

President Tibor

You're in!

CONGRATULATIONS

Member #15! The forums are at:

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Legion_of_Defense/

I'm in, pending further examination of the... constitution.

Okay.

UNVEILING THE NEW FORUM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT NOTICE:

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Legion_of_Defense/

Please register and PM me or Nanakaland when you do so. Also, post in registration.

BUMP!

Anyone else want to join? This is a once in a lifetime chance to make an impact!

I'm... hesitant.
Is this MT only, or will it affect my FT wars? (I already have several)

The Republic is interested in joining the Legion of Defence if the chance is still being offered

Burnzonian Republican Defence Ministry

The Republic is interested in joining the Legion of Defence if the chance is still being offered

Burnzonian Republican Defence Ministry

Of course. Our ultimate goal of the year is 30. You're in.

I'm... hesitant.
Is this MT only, or will it affect my FT wars? (I already have several)

I am not sure. Ask nanakaland...I believe we are open to all....

Oh yeah. I myself am a MT nation, with FT space RPs occasionally, and with fantasy elements. I'm not strict MT. Any tech can join the LoD.

Although he should know that when fighting a FT war the only nations that will come for help are the ones that usually do FT... and with that: we should include techs in the nations' listings.

-edit-

Should we contact all of the old members? I can do that if you give me the ok Nanak.

Yeah. Do that. Btw, this is Nanakaland, just to lazy to log out of this stupid nation that was created to get Nanakaland resurrected (IT AUTO LOGS IN!).

bump

.::BUMP::.

BUMP... but we should make a good recruiting thread instead of this Nanak.

[OOC: Yes. Create a thread in the forums on that subject. I want all members to help make a perfect recruitment thread.]

Recieved Tag from Bariloche about the LoD.

See our new forums:

http://s3.invisionfree.com/Legion_of_Defense/

Did that.
Waiting to be ok'd to post.

Post in registration forum and you'll be okayed.

Wont let me start a new topic.