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The Vantage Point (Attn Grenval, enemies of Grenval, and allies of Grenval)

Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 01:45
President J.L. eloquently stroked the pen across the document, etching his signature. Just two words- President and J.L.- and a little ink, would have a massive impact upon millions of lives. Leaning back in satisfaction, he briefly skimmed through the document again and sternly nodded. He had made the right decision. He was sure of it.

The document read:

The Invincible Empire of Roach-Busters does hereby declare a state of war between itself and the Militaristic Democracy of Grenval, for aggression, warmongering, and intervening in other nations' sovereign affairs. Grenval's radical new foreign policy is incompatible with the ideals of peace, freedom, and understanding between the nations. This rogue nation's actions must be checked. Whether the rest of the world will muster the courage to step forth or not does not matter, we must do what we in our hearts feel is right. It is imperative that, on behalf of all people who cherish liberty and sovereignty, we strike a blow for the preservation of the afore-mentioned ideals. History has proven, time and again, that appeasement and surrender are major follies, as both only foment future wars and encourage dictators and imperialists to engage in more conflicts of aggression against the progressive and peaceful nations of the world. We will not step aside. We will not stand idly by as Grenval makes bold threats and jeopardizes international peace. Thus, on this date, November 2, A.D. 2004, the Congress of the Invincible Empire of Roach-Busters declares war on the Militaristic Democracy of Grenval.

Signed,

President J.L.
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:00
bump
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 02:01
...Encrypting...

Official Imperial Communique

To: Roach-Busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

We shall join in your efforts. How many soldiers would you like us to send to help you?

End Transmission
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:02
...Encrypting...

Official Imperial Communique

To: Roach-Busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

We shall join in your efforts. How many soldiers would you like us to send to help you?

End Transmission

To: Chancellor Licinius
From: President J.L.

As many as possible. Thanks for your support.
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 02:11
OOC: I can send millions. But that would be alot. How many should I send?
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:13
OOC: I can send millions. But that would be alot. How many should I send?

I don't know, but Grenval may be bringing in a lot of allies, so the more the merrier.
Grenval
03-11-2004, 02:14
[OOC - You know this is ludacris. What did I do, terminated foreign affairs peacefully? I am not going to ignore this thread, but I am not posting until I get some answers, and a real reason.]
Camel Eaters
03-11-2004, 02:15
We pledge the 1st through the 68th Maggot Divisons.

1st-20th Maggot Divisions:
1st Division-Infantry "Linfield's Pride"
2nd Division-Infantry "Elephantmen"
3rd Division-Infantry "Mad Hatters"
4th Division-Infantry "Funeral Boys"
5th Division-Infantry "Betsys"
6th Division-Infantry "Mud Devils"
7th Division-Infantry "Red Mules"
8th Division-Infantry "Garfunks"
9th Division-Infantry "Sand Demons"
10th Division-Infantry "Crazed Marines Knockoffs"
11th Division-Infantry "Blues"
12th Division-Infantry "Dead Men"
13th Division-Infantry "The Irish Temper"
14th Division-Infantry "Red Eyes"
15th Division-Infantry "Light Bones"
16th Division-Infantry "Cheap Thunder"
17th Division-Infantry "Neck Ties"
18th Division-Infantry "Camel Boys"
19th Division-Infantry "Green Eyes"
20th Division-Infantry "Broke Lines"

These are the infantry divisions we are sending to do battle.
-Linfiled Hannon
High Ruler of Camel Eaters
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:16
[OOC - You know this is ludacris. What did I do, terminated foreign affairs peacefully? I am not going to ignore this thread, but I am not posting until I get some answers, and a real reason.]

[OOC: Reason 1- I'm bored

Reason 2- Threatening plenty of smaller nations over their internal affairs]
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:16
We pledge the 1st through the 68th Maggot Divisons.

1st-20th Maggot Divisions:
1st Division-Infantry "Linfield's Pride"
2nd Division-Infantry "Elephantmen"
3rd Division-Infantry "Mad Hatters"
4th Division-Infantry "Funeral Boys"
5th Division-Infantry "

OOC: Will post more troops later

Thanks, man! :)
DontPissUsOff
03-11-2004, 02:17
OOC: Nice titled R.B.; I was sitting here thinking, "well who does that leave, might I ask?" :p

IC: "Anything interesting?" asked Prime Minister Jones as he lay in bed on the crisp and beautiful winter morning of second November. His voice was a whisper, lest he disturb Lucy, whose dark hair flowed from beneath the hummocked covers, making it look at though a small qantitity of varnish - her hair was very silky - had seeped from an extremely large and irregularly-shaped bottle. The aide grinned at the hair and hissed back, "Roach-Busters and Grenval," and made a chopping movement with his hand.
"Eh?" asked Jones, still somewhat drowsy.
"War!" hissed the aide. Lucy turned over beneath the covers, resulting in most of them becoming wrapped around her and Marcus being left feeling rather more chilled than he had previously.
"Alright, I'll be down in 10," he concluded. Climbing carefully from the bed, so as not to wake his wife, he washed, shaved and dressed, then listened while the aide read the RB President's speech. He considered for a moment. "Do we have an ambassador about?" he asked hopefully.
"We've got Mr. Kazov, just back from wherever he was last...oh yes, that conference thing." The aide yawned. "Shall I send for him?"
"No, just bung him on a plane with orders to get in touch with JL and see if we can sort this one out peaceably for once. Meantime, get a force ready to move just in case."
"For whose benefit, sir?"
"Both or neither," replied Jones coldly. "We can pick and choose."

To President J.L. of Roach-Busters:

We must protest most strongly this decision by Roach-Busters. While you may object to Grenval's new objectives, ambitions and moral code, their arguments are not without merit. We would like to send an ambassador, mr. Georgiy Kazov, to discuss with you and hopefully rectify this situation.

- Marcus Jones, Prime Minister, the Anti-Cat Republic of DPUO.
Doomingsland
03-11-2004, 02:22
tag, will make post later
DontPissUsOff
03-11-2004, 02:28
The flip-side of the coin was as always to be borne by the Navy. Tu-142s that normally did little more than routine patrols of the Home Islands were now sent out to loiter for hours on end out to sea, listening for electronic transmissions, submarines, anything that might be useful in the event of war. The East Coast ports of Krasnodvinsk, Belmara and Kamovsk were also called to an increased state of readiness. The 33rd Naval Infantry Division, normally a reserve unit, was ordered to readiness and the 10th NID likewise, and in the three ports the staff made preparations to receive amphibious warfare ships. Aircraft flying into an out of the nation began to notice hovercraft and LPUs heading east, usually with an escorting destroyer of frigate in attendance, and occasionally spotted a surface submarine, though in fact a small force - ten Sierra-III submarines each - was in fact steaming quietly at 10 knots towards the two nations and their respective coasts, just in case.
Grenval
03-11-2004, 02:30
[OOC: Reason 1- I'm bored

Reason 2- Threatening plenty of smaller nations over their internal affairs]

[OOC - The first is a very good reason! Haha! The second is wrong. I have no intention of picking on little nations. I plan to stop the big ones!

But anyway, I will post later tonight, there is big news going around NationStates. For anyone who knows anything about regional defense, the PRP Senate approved the army!]
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:31
OOC: Nice titled R.B.; I was sitting here thinking, "well who does that leave, might I ask?" :p

IC: "Anything interesting?" asked Prime Minister Jones as he lay in bed on the crisp and beautiful winter morning of second November. His voice was a whisper, lest he disturb Lucy, whose dark hair flowed from beneath the hummocked covers, making it look at though a small qantitity of varnish - her hair was very silky - had seeped from an extremely large and irregularly-shaped bottle. The aide grinned at the hair and hissed back, "Roach-Busters and Grenval," and made a chopping movement with his hand.
"Eh?" asked Jones, still somewhat drowsy.
"War!" hissed the aide. Lucy turned over beneath the covers, resulting in most of them becoming wrapped around her and Marcus being left feeling rather more chilled than he had previously.
"Alright, I'll be down in 10," he concluded. Climbing carefully from the bed, so as not to wake his wife, he washed, shaved and dressed, then listened while the aide read the RB President's speech. He considered for a moment. "Do we have an ambassador about?" he asked hopefully.
"We've got Mr. Kazov, just back from wherever he was last...oh yes, that conference thing." The aide yawned. "Shall I send for him?"
"No, just bung him on a plane with orders to get in touch with JL and see if we can sort this one out peaceably for once. Meantime, get a force ready to move just in case."
"For whose benefit, sir?"
"Both or neither," replied Jones coldly. "We can pick and choose."

To President J.L. of Roach-Busters:

We must protest most strongly this decision by Roach-Busters. While you may object to Grenval's new objectives, ambitions and moral code, their arguments are not without merit. We would like to send an ambassador, mr. Georgiy Kazov, to discuss with you and hopefully rectify this situation.

- Marcus Jones, Prime Minister, the Anti-Cat Republic of DPUO.

To: Marcus Jones
From: President J.L.

We commend your gallant and heroic efforts to achieve peace, however, it is too late. President George of Grenval has sealed his own fate. The only solution now is through the barrel of a gun.
Nutropinia
03-11-2004, 02:37
As a Member of SEATO Nutropinia proudly pledges to devote as many troops as neccessary. We have a more powerful navy than army or air force just to let you know. I will speed up on the security force.
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:39
As a Member of SEATO Nutropinia proudly pledges to devote as many troops as neccessary. We have a more powerful navy than army or air force just to let you know. I will speed up on the security force.

We thank Nutropinia for their support.
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 02:40
...Encrypting...

Official Imperial Communqiue

To: Roach-Busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

Please stop this. Peace is what is needed. If you wnat war at least wait.

End Transmission
Grenval
03-11-2004, 02:42
To: Marcus Jones
From: President J.L.

We commend your gallant and heroic efforts to achieve peace, however, it is too late. President George of Grenval has sealed his own fate. The only solution now is through the barrel of a gun.

[OOC - So should I even bother to make that post about diplomacy?]
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:42
...Encrypting...

Official Imperial Communqiue

To: Roach-Busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

Please stop this. Peace is what is needed. If you wnat war at least wait.

End Transmission

To: Borman Empire
From: Roach-Busters

Meh, fine. :mad:

(OOC: Why the change of heart, Borman? :confused: )
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:43
[OOC - So should I even bother to make that post about diplomacy?]

[OOC- Sure, go ahead.]
Inkana
03-11-2004, 02:44
Official Imperial Statement-Inkana pledges it's full military might with it's ally Roch-Busters, what would you like us to do?
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 02:45
To: Borman Empire
From: Roach-Busters

Meh, fine. :mad:

(OOC: Why the change of heart, Borman? :confused: )

OOC: I do want to war. But I had the same feeling. I want to wait a bit. And I have talked to some allies who say we should wait if we are going to. We will wait, and if we still wnat to war we will. If not we will let it go.
Nutropinia
03-11-2004, 02:46
Roach-Busters do you need us to deploy any troops as of this moment?
Generic empire
03-11-2004, 02:47
Official Imperial Statement

And so it comes to war over petty foreign policy. A shame, but nonetheless the Empire shall join her most respected allies in finishing this. Grenval, your time has come. Once, the Empire would have stood by you, but that time is passed.

We will see this settled as we titans so often settle their disputes. Let the fields of battle be stained with noble blood. The Imperial standard shall fly over your cities, and your people shall wail for what their leaders have brought upon them, for the Empire is full of wrath, and her vengeance shall be absolute.

-----------------------

The Imperial government has called upon 500,000 already active troops, and is mobilizing up an additional 1,000,000 for what would seem to be one of the largest Imperial military actions to date.
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 02:49
We thank Inkana and Generic empire for their support.
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 02:53
...Encrypting...

Official Imperial Communqiue

To: Roach-Busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

It seems the war will not be stopped. Foget what we have said. We are immediatly gathering 2,000,000 soldiers. Most will go and some will prepare for a second wave.
The war is on.

End Transmission
Doomingsland
03-11-2004, 02:59
OOC:Awww, c'mon! I had cool RP plans with Grenval (cold war stuff, border skirmishes) call the damned thing off!
Inkana
03-11-2004, 03:00
OCC: Where in RL is Grenval located?

IC: 500,000 troops in 4 armies are being mobilized to the cause.
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 03:03
OOC: Next to Doom. Australia.
Draganovia
03-11-2004, 03:06
we pledge 100,000 troops to fight grenval.
we are also sending:

12 armored divisions
3 navy divisions
12 air force squadrons

and of course, free weapons to anyone who fights grenval as well!!
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 03:13
bump
Inkana
03-11-2004, 03:19
OOC: Next to Doom. Australia.
Hmmm..quite a ways from Turkey..
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 03:32
ViZion demands that all those preparing to invade Grenval stand down. Grenval has every right in the world to change its foreign policy and cut relations. I may not always agree with Grenval on certain issues, but your actions cannot be justified. You your self call Grenval war-mongering, yet you go about declaring war without even seeking a peaceful alternative to your disagreement.

ViZion will not allow this.

The following forces are being rerouted from Jarridia to Grenval:
1,500 Ninja Fighters (Raider-Class Jets)
500 F-22’s
500 JSF’s
250 Comanche Helicopter’s
250 Apache Helicopter’s
250 Cobra Attack Helicopter’s
250 Seawolf Helicopter’s
250 Mi-24 Hind
250/250 Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 Black Hawk
500 B-1 Bombers
500 B-52 Bombers
500 B-2 Stealth Bombers
100 SR-71 Blackbird Spy Plane
20 Aegis-Class Destroyers
20 Iowa-Class Destroyers
20 Montana-Class Destroyers
10 Iroquois class Destroyers
2 Forrestal-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Enterprise-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Essex-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Wasp-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Ranger-Class Aircraft Carriers
15 Iowa-Class Battleship’s
10 Poseidon-Class Battleship’s
*All ships equipped with Crotale short-range missile system
2 Rubis Class Nuclear Attack Submarine’s
2 Ohio Class SSBN‘s
2 640-Class SSBN’s
2 Lafayette Class SSBN
2 Russian Typhoon Class SSBN
2 Virginia Class SSN’s
2 Akula Class SSN’s
2 Seawolf-Class SSN’s
2 Los Angeles-Class SSN’s
3.5 million soldiers
2 million Marines
5,000 Special Forces
50,000 hummers
10,000 Stryker units
10,000 Bradley Fighting units
500 Leopard 2A6 EX’s
500 Arjun’s
1,500 Vickers Mk7
1,500 Chieftain (FV 4201)
1,500 M8 AGS’s
500 Stingray II’s
500 GDLS 120S’s
2,500 M1A2’s

We demand Roach-Busters and other nations preparing to invade Grenval cease their actions and come to a peace table. Your actions are unjustified, and by God, if you attack Grenval, we won't be the only 2 billion+ nations preparing to invade YOU.

Thank you,

President Maybury
Generic empire
03-11-2004, 03:36
ViZion demands that all those preparing to invade Grenval stand down. Grenval has every right in the world to change its foreign policy and cut relations. I may not always agree with Grenval on certain issues, but your actions cannot be justified. You your self call Grenval war-mongering, yet you go about declaring war without even seeking a peaceful alternative to your disagreement.

ViZion will not allow this.

The following forces are being rerouted from Jarridia to Grenval:
1,500 Ninja Fighters (Raider-Class Jets)
500 F-22’s
500 JSF’s
250 Comanche Helicopter’s
250 Apache Helicopter’s
250 Cobra Attack Helicopter’s
250 Seawolf Helicopter’s
250 Mi-24 Hind
250/250 Sikorsky UH-60/S-70 Black Hawk
500 B-1 Bombers
500 B-52 Bombers
500 B-2 Stealth Bombers
100 SR-71 Blackbird Spy Plane
20 Aegis-Class Destroyers
20 Iowa-Class Destroyers
20 Montana-Class Destroyers
10 Iroquois class Destroyers
2 Forrestal-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Enterprise-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Essex-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Wasp-Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Ranger-Class Aircraft Carriers
15 Iowa-Class Battleship’s
10 Poseidon-Class Battleship’s
*All ships equipped with Crotale short-range missile system
2 Rubis Class Nuclear Attack Submarine’s
2 Ohio Class SSBN‘s
2 640-Class SSBN’s
2 Lafayette Class SSBN
2 Russian Typhoon Class SSBN
2 Virginia Class SSN’s
2 Akula Class SSN’s
2 Seawolf-Class SSN’s
2 Los Angeles-Class SSN’s
3.5 million soldiers
2 million Marines
5,000 Special Forces
50,000 hummers
10,000 Stryker units
10,000 Bradley Fighting units
500 Leopard 2A6 EX’s
500 Arjun’s
1,500 Vickers Mk7
1,500 Chieftain (FV 4201)
1,500 M8 AGS’s
500 Stingray II’s
500 GDLS 120S’s
2,500 M1A2’s

We demand Roach-Busters and other nations preparing to invade Grenval cease their actions and come to a peace table. Your actions are unjustified, and by God, if you attack Grenval, we won't be the only 2 billion+ nations preparing to invade YOU.

Thank you,

President Maybury

Official Imperial Statement

As much as the Empire regrets to say this, we will not stand down unless Roach-Busters decides to do so. If this means that we will war with ViZion and Jarridia, then so be it. We will take as many down with us as we can.

Chancellor Dmitri Ruballai
Appointed Chancellor of the Imperial Congress
Loyal Servant to Emperor Alexei II
Nutropinia
03-11-2004, 03:38
We are the same way as Generic Empire. Roach-Busters is our allies and we will stand by him no matter what happens.
DontPissUsOff
03-11-2004, 03:56
Again, I urge the RB allies to stand-down and reduce the chances of a potentially disastrous war seewping across a large swath of the globe in its' usual depressing manner. If this cannot be done, however, we shall stand by Grenval and ViZion on this matter. The following units are being mobilised (not deployed) ready for work in Gernval:

Airborne Divisions 1-6
Third Guards Army (3 MRDs and 2 TDs)
10th Air Army (4 regiments MiG-29MU, 4 regiments Su-27B1, 2 regiments MiG-31M2s)
A naval force of 20 SSNs, 5 SSGNs and 5 SSGs, 4 CVNs (Orel), 8 BBNs (4 Soyuz, 4 Frunze), 1 BCCN (Arrow) 2 BCNs (Admiral and Tempest), 6 Kara CGs, 4 Slava CGs, 8 Sovremennyy DDGs and 9 Udaloy DDGs, 6 Berezina and 2 Boris Chilikin AO/AORs.

If it becomes necessary, these will be deployed as rapidly as possible rto Grenval. We urge the aggressors to step down. again.
The Parthians
03-11-2004, 04:50
We find this war a very suprising development, for one, we have allies on both sides of the war. The nations of Roach Busters, Generia, Borman Empire, Doomingsland, and Vizon and Jarridia are both Parthian allies. At this time I have not made a decision to enter this war with the hope that both sides will stand down.

-Shah Khosru of Parthia
Sir Peter the sage
03-11-2004, 05:16
It was 5:30 AM in the Dominion. Sir Peter's alarm went off. Fifteen minutes later he was eating brekfast and reading the document compiled by his intelligence service, providing a description of events that had occured since he had gone to sleep. The heading Roach-Busters caught his eye. "War with Grenvel?" Sir Peter summoned an aide. "Get the Ministers of State and Defense over here now"

An hour later a secret communication was sent to President J.L.:

Respected President J.L.:

As a member of SEATO my nation has pledged military support to aid any member nation against any nation that threatens a fellow member. Two and a half million troops can be mobilized for the effort if called upon with millions more in reserves if the need should arise. However, it is my hope that this crisis can be settled through diplomatic channels before any bloodshed occurs.

Signed,

Sir Peter XXIV
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 05:20
Generic empire, we hope you do not get your hopes up to high regarding your "We will take as many down with us as we can" comment.

We are sorry you, along with others, do not see the wrong doing of your war with Grenval. Just because someone is an ally does not mean you must support a war they're in.

Roach-Busters, for your sake, and the sake of many others, stand down, do not go through with your plans. You will regret it if you do. You have called the kettle black by calling Grenval a war-monger - being that you, too, are war-mongering right here, right now.

We do not want to go to war with any of you, and we are more than open to peaceful solutions, but we will also not tolerate a flat-out act of senseless aggression towards anyone. In this case, you would be doing just that.

Stand down, NOW!

President Maybury
Grenval
03-11-2004, 05:39
[OOC - I hate to mess with you, but maps change. Here it is...

The Map of Grenval (http://www.tuffshit.net/accounts/cmm-pro/tgu/tgumap.html)

Sorry Doom...]
Dr_Twist
03-11-2004, 05:39
Grenval is a Member of NWO, All Grenval has done is cut Relations with Nations it didn't want relations with, Which is perfectly Legal, No laws have been Broken. Thus the Dr_Twist government has Begun to inform its allies of the Situation, NWO will go on the Offensive if it means that the Security of one of its Members if Secure, Roach-Busters stop threatening NWO members of you will be facing the Entire NWO Alliance!
Camel Eaters
03-11-2004, 05:42
We pledge the 1st through the 68th Maggot Divisons.

1st-20th Maggot Divisions:
1st Division-Infantry "Linfield's Pride"
2nd Division-Infantry "Elephantmen"
3rd Division-Infantry "Mad Hatters"
4th Division-Infantry "Funeral Boys"
5th Division-Infantry "Betsys"
6th Division-Infantry "Mud Devils"
7th Division-Infantry "Red Mules"
8th Division-Infantry "Garfunks"
9th Division-Infantry "Sand Demons"
10th Division-Infantry "Crazed Marines Knockoffs"
11th Division-Infantry "Blues"
12th Division-Infantry "Dead Men"
13th Division-Infantry "The Irish Temper"
14th Division-Infantry "Red Eyes"
15th Division-Infantry "Light Bones"
16th Division-Infantry "Cheap Thunder"
17th Division-Infantry "Neck Ties"
18th Division-Infantry "Camel Boys"
19th Division-Infantry "Green Eyes"
20th Division-Infantry "Broke Lines"

These are the infantry divisions we are sending to do battle.
-Linfiled Hannon
High Ruler of Camel Eaters
I fixed it. All the infantry divisions I'm sending.
Euroslavia
03-11-2004, 06:08
Euroslavia would pledge its military aid to Grenval, but due to uncompromising circumstances in our war with Hainan, we cannot. However, we will pledge our moral support to our allies in ViZion and Jarridia, and to Grenval. We do hope though, that these things can be solved diplomatically, to stop innocent people from dying in a war that has no meaning.
Tylinoa
03-11-2004, 06:18
The nation of Tylinoa is at a "stalemate". R.B. is a ally of ours and I will stand by him, but I also see what everyone else is saying about it being perfectly legal to cut relations with other countries as what Grenval is doing.The nation of Tylinoa would like to ask R.B. and Grenval to try and find a peaceful way of ending this. If not, R.B. I will aid you in anyway possible.

Tyler Turner,
President of Tylinoa
The Federation of Tylinoa
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 06:27
The nation of Tylinoa is at a "stalemate". R.B. is a ally of ours and I will stand by him, but I also see what everyone else is saying about it being perfectly legal to cut relations with other countries as what Grenval is doing.The nation of Tylinoa would like to ask R.B. and Grenval to try and find a peaceful way of ending this. If not, R.B. I will aid you in anyway possible.

Tyler Turner,
President of Tylinoa
The Federation of Tylinoa
You will aid him, even if he refuses to be diplomatic?
Dailey
03-11-2004, 07:00
To: RB and Grenval

From The Desk of TBA Diplomatic Minister:
Jonathan Antensen I

It saddens Me as a Peace Keeper to see your nation thretening war against eachother. TBA Diplomatic ministries Offers a nuetral place to work this out without resorting to a full out war. We do not Condoll War but if it comes to full out war we will fight.

If war is to happen TBA would have no choice but to Help RB and other allies for more then one TBA member is against Grenval. TBA will Fully Suport A war if peaceful solutions can not be reached throu diplomacy.
_________________________________________________________________
Coded message To: All TBA members and Allies
From Minister of War: General Makevili

War is emenent! Mobilize and prepare for War at a moments notice! TBA Asualt Fleet on High Alert. Sugest Full mobilization of civil defence forces. TBA Comand Central on high alert. All Defence Emplacements ready for a War.

End of message
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 07:18
Supporters of Roach-Busters: You sadden me. You are supporting a war in which there is no justification for. Grenval has every right to cut its relations with any and all nations that it wishes. Yet, you are treating it as if Roach-Busters has every right to invade Grenval over this. You are not required to support Roach-Busters, you have a choice. You can choose to support him and this war, which is completely illegal, imperialistic, and war-mongering, or, you can choose not to support this war. That does not mean you have to cut your alliance and all relations with him. It simply means you are making a statement; a statement that says you will not be Roach-Busters slave, following his every move, and every request, even if it is illegal and immoral.

I do not ask, nor do I wish, for a war with your nation. But, if you continue to support this war, that is what will happen. No not follow Roach-Busters in leading your nation into its grave. No not follow Roach-Busters into a completely immoral, illegal, and imperialistic war. For if you do, you will be treated just as any other imperialistic nation would be: Taken to the slaughter house, and slaughtered.

Your government and military will be completely erradicated. Higher ranking officers in your military, along with those in your government, who survive shall be tried as war criminals in Grenval, by Grenval.

Take your blinders off, look around, and make the smart and correct choice: Do not support Roach-Busters in this war!

Roach-Busters: You disgust me with this war you wish to rage upon Grenval. He cuts relations with your nation, and you declare war? WAR?! Over such a STUPID issue, you declare WAR?! You call Grenval a war-monger, yet you skipped right over being diplomatic, and declare a war because Grenval cuts relations with your nation? That in an extremely poor excuse for imperialism and war-mongering.

If you were so concerned over past actions of Grenval, why didn't you go to the table with him them? Why didn't you go to war with him then? Because you wanted to keep ties with him for his support. But, uh oh! He's just cut ties with your nation. So, what should you do with him now? Your solution: Declare war and invade him!

Pathetic. Absolutely PATHETIC. Cease your illegal and imperialistic war upon Grenval, and we shall all walk away happy. But, if you don't, you will be treated like any other imperialistic nation: You shall recieve a dose of your own medicine, by being invaded. Your entire military and government will be destroyed. Those high ranking officials in your military, along with your government, who survive, shall be tried in Grenval, by Grenval.

We do not want to go to war with you, but if you attack, we will be forced to do just as we said we'd do above to your nation.

Again, cease your senseless war, and walk away.

Thank you,

President Maybury
The Macabees
03-11-2004, 07:29
The Macabees reinforced ViZion with moral support and a promise of martial aid.
Dr_Twist
03-11-2004, 07:30
Grenval has every right to cut relations with who ever he wishes, Every nation in the world has this right, and if Roach-Busters wants to violate that nations rights by saying, what about me? Why did you cut relations with me? Well I no longer like you so I am going to Invade you because I can. Well I say to you and your allies Roach-Buster, tough, he has a choice for what and where he wants to go and by invading him you are violating International Law, You will be seen as nothing More then Imperialistic!

If any nation here steps into Grenval lands because of this issue you would Automatically be making a Declaration of war upon NWO by attacking one of its Member nations, and as such we will not stand for Roach-Busters and its Allies Imperialistic Moves. We will Defend Grenval and if so we will go to the Offensive Upon those Nations who come after Grenval on this issue.

Dr_Twist.
Sir Peter the sage
03-11-2004, 07:33
This matter of Grenvel's and Roach-Buster's actions has been argued viciously on both sides. With childish and arrogant threats made. Encouraging a diplomatic solution is our top priority. No military action will be taken on our part until a diplomatic solution is attempted. There has also been no evidence shown for either argument at this point. Until concrete proof to the contrary is provided, we are inclined to believe our trusted ally of Roach-Busters.

Thank you,

Sir Peter XXIV
Tylinoa
03-11-2004, 07:35
Ok lets all not get war crazy, we dont need WW3 going on. R.B. even though I am an ally, we do not need to attack Grenval for cutting relations. It is perfectly legal to cut relations with another country. I ask all nations that are building up their armies to stop. We need to peacefully stop this situation.
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 07:58
Ok lets all not get war crazy, we dont need WW3 going on. R.B. even though I am an ally, we do not need to attack Grenval for cutting relations. It is perfectly legal to cut relations with another country. I ask all nations that are building up their armies to stop. We need to peacefully stop this situation.
Seeing that this step have been taken, ViZion will, too, be removing it's military, and sending it to Jarridia, where they were previously at.
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 08:00
This matter of Grenvel's and Roach-Buster's actions has been argued viciously on both sides. With childish and arrogant threats made. Encouraging a diplomatic solution is our top priority. No military action will be taken on our part until a diplomatic solution is attempted. There has also been no evidence shown for either argument at this point. Until concrete proof to the contrary is provided, we are inclined to believe our trusted ally of Roach-Busters.

Thank you,

Sir Peter XXIV
I would like to know what more proof is needed? The fact is, plain and simple, as seen in this thread, Grenval cut ties with all nations aside from NWO, and that is the excuse Roach-Busters is using to go to war.
Sir Peter the sage
03-11-2004, 08:28
I would like to know what more proof is needed? The fact is, plain and simple, as seen in this thread, Grenval cut ties with all nations aside from NWO, and that is the excuse Roach-Busters is using to go to war.

ooc: Ya I just read the rest of the thread. My bad...between sleepiness and watching the election its easy to miss quite a bit

ic: From our intelligence reports, as well as clear evidence from the nations involved, it has been confirmed that this is a matter of Grenvel's own foreign policy. This is most certainly not a justification for war, let alone one involving our alliance. We maintain the position that diplomatic talks between Roach-Buster and Grenval be organized.

Sir Peter XXIV
Ancient and Holy Terra
03-11-2004, 10:23
Though the Republic of Ancient Terra advises calm in this somewhat precarious situation, we will retaliate against any who would threaten the sovereign nation of Roach-Busters. While we have no desire to see World War III break out as the result of some careless foreign policies, we support Roach-Busters as a signatory to the SEATO Charter.

Roach-Busters, we advocate a more peaceful stance to this issue. Only when it is decided that Grenval has posed a direct threat to you or any other SEATO-member nation will Terra directly step in. That said, if Grenval or any of their varied allies so much as moves troops into a position to threaten you, we will stand by our duties as outlined by the SEATO Charter.

~Emperor Taichi Kamiya, Leader of Ancient Terra~
~Talus Karn, Prime Minister of Ancient Terra~
~Lord Admiral Yamato Ishida, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, CENTCOM~
The Lightning Star
03-11-2004, 13:37
Offical Statement by the Federation

The Lightning Star, long the ally of Roach Busters, will use whatever force needed to ensure RB's victory. We shall defend their lands as if they were our own, and we will burn their enemies in the way that the Romans destroyed Carthage. We shall NEVER let our ally fall, or we shall go down with it!

-Zeke Antika, President of the Gallente Federation of The Lightning Star
New Logan
03-11-2004, 16:05
The New Logan government agrees with the Republic of Ancient Terra in that a peaceful solution to this must be sought. Not only for the benefit of all the people of the nations involved, but also for the alliances between the nations involved. Not only is military might at risk here, national environments will be damaged as will economies and trade.

Roach-Busters, we also advocate a more peaceful stance to this issue. Only when it is decided that Grenval has posed a direct threat to you or any other SEATO-member nation will New Logan consider a declaration of war against another nation necessary.

Keeping this in mind, as a member of SEATO, the New Logan military has also placed its armed forces on high alert and is mobilizing its troops and preparing its reserves for action.

We do believe that a peaceful solution to this crisis needs to be found before any harsh action is taken and that all offers of mediation should be accepted.

Sir Nigel D'Arby
– Leader and Commander in Chief of New Logan -


Constable Marcus Impartial - Foreign Minister -
Wirraway
03-11-2004, 20:05
As the nation holding the Minister of Diplomacy position on SEATO we urge both sides not to rush to a potentially gigantic and hugely destructive war. We only ask that RB and his enemies consider diplomacy before abandoning a dialouge and pulling mnay other nations into conflict.

Nevertheless we are bound by our treaty to support our fellow alliance member RB and have begun to mobilize certain naval, air and ground assets should it come to war, which we sincerly hope it does not.

As we are representing SEATO is this conflict, which nation will act as the negociator or diplomatic liason for the Grenval's side?
Ruthless Slaughter
03-11-2004, 20:23
Due to alliances with both Roachbusters and Grenval, we shall remain a nuetral party in this conflict and will give relief aid to both sides if needed. We trust that both sides will respect our stance and understand our position in this situation.
Doomingsland
03-11-2004, 20:45
Official Imperial Statement

We will remain neutral, so long as our borders are not violated.
Holy Paradise
03-11-2004, 22:23
Holy Paradise will be siding with RB on this one.

OOC: Sorry its not more detailed, but I am very busy today and don't have much time.
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 22:26
...Encrypting...

Officiail Imperial Communqiue

To: Roach-busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

Various allies have come to support our enemy. But we will still support you. However this will end in the destruction of nations on both sides. We hope for a peaceful solution.

End Trnasmission
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 22:53
To: Grenval and her allies
From: Roach-Busters

Unless and until hostile actions are taken against us by the Grenvali argument, Roach-Busters does hereby repeal its declaration of war and is willing to accept a peaceful solution. We wish to resolve this with diplomats rather than with bombs. We request an international peace conference of all nations on both sides to convene in the city of Grenval's choice to reach a negotiated solution. The Roach-Busterian government accepts full responsibility for causing this war (even though the war never actually started). We will meet any time, any place, to discuss a peaceful settlement.

-President J.L.



To: All Roach-Busterian allies who have pledged their support
From: Roach-Busters

We thank you from the bottom of our heart for their unwavering support even in the face of overwhelming and intimidating odds. We will return the favor in whatever way we can. Should imminent disaster ever imperil your nations, we will strive to aid you as much as humanly possible, in return for your kind deeds. May our alliance remain strong, and may our friendship be everlasting. I would like to add that I personally accept full responsibility for this mess, and do hereby apologize with utmost sincerity at whatever inconveniences this may have caused you.

-President J.L.

(bump)
Hogsweat
03-11-2004, 22:54
[OOC-tag- Sometime, i'll do a nice post on how I vouched support for R.B.]
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 23:06
bump
Borman Empire
03-11-2004, 23:08
...Encrypting...

Officiail Imperial Communqiue

To: Roach-busters
From: Chancellor Licinius

Various allies have come to support our enemy. But we will still support you. However this will end in the destruction of nations on both sides. We hope for a peaceful solution.

End Trnasmission

...
imported_ViZion
03-11-2004, 23:24
To: Grenval and her allies
From: Roach-Busters

Unless and until hostile actions are taken against us by the Grenvali argument, Roach-Busters does hereby repeal its declaration of war and is willing to accept a peaceful solution. We wish to resolve this with diplomats rather than with bombs. We request an international peace conference of all nations on both sides to convene in the city of Grenval's choice to reach a negotiated solution. The Roach-Busterian government accepts full responsibility for causing this war (even though the war never actually started). We will meet any time, any place, to discuss a peaceful settlement.

-President J.L.
We are extremely pleased at this move made by Roach-Busters. We will attend this peace confrence, and ask all nations involved to be active in this confrence.
Nikolaos The Great
03-11-2004, 23:24
Official Public Announcement

We would have gladly support Roach-Busters and the rest of our allies on the war on Grenval. I have also a couple of reasons to go to war with him but I am afraid that we will not enter this war. Our full force is being dedicated to bringing Euroslavia down since they have become unstable nation and been threatening the Balkan region with the new government.
-Nikolaos the Great, Emperor of Greece
Roach-Busters
03-11-2004, 23:33
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7397809&posted=1#post7397809

Peace conference thread
Generic empire
03-11-2004, 23:34
Official Imperial Statement

The Empire is pleased that the Roach Busters government has made the decision to avert a world war. Imperial forces being mobilized have halted, and those readying for deplyment have been put on alert.
Borman Empire
04-11-2004, 01:24
Those staying behind have stopped mobilizing and those who were going to leave have stopped.

We will attend the conference.