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Radar waves are just high frequency sound waves and are well above the 20,000 Hz that the human ear can hear. The way radar works is sound pulse are sent out into the air and are reflected off of everything in the area. By using the doppler effect, which says that moving objects change the frequency of the refected waves more than non moving objects you can approxiamte speed and location of moving objects. The slower you move the smaller the change in frequency and there fore the less likely it is to be seens with any real determination as to whether you are a bird or a plane.

Timmoran
Dam it, how can I say this without sounding like an ass. :(
I knew about the:
Doppler effect
The Human hearing range thing
The concept behind RADAR
Though probably not as intimately as you do... ^_^

But what I meant was that I thought RADAR was radio waves. Are you saying that radio waves are high frequency sound? I really don't want to sound like I'm trying to prove you wrong, because I'm not. Just interested.

OOC: SOund and radio waves are totally different things - sound is merely molecules bouncing off of each other to transmit sound, radio waves is electromagnetic energy, and travels in 'waves'. The frequency of radio waves is much shorter than visual light, a hell of a lot shorter that gamma rays/x-rays etc. They are fairly close to microwave's though.

I wonder is AC is going to post any time soon...........

OOC: No, I won't post.

IC:

The leader of the severly depleated army gets a call over the network: "General, we have just had some information from our sources - it appears that there are several particle satellites aimed at your particular little group. It seems that they are going to attempt to destroy the nuke you have. March post haste to the complex - I hope your plan will work." The general in the field replies, "Of course it'll work - it seems as though the allies are moving their troops out of the area to prevent losses from these satellites you talked about, so we should have an easy run in. My plan is working - they've all got their heads down, concentrating on us."



Coming up to Blacktower airspace

Blacktower International Airport Control, do you read us, over? ... ... This is civilian flight KW285 from Japanese States, onroute to BIA - our fligh plans have already been authorised, and are awaiting orders for landing procedures.

Coming up to Blacktower airspace

Blacktower International Airport Control, do you read us, over? ... ... This is civilian flight KW285 from Japanese States, onroute to BIA - our fligh plans have already been authorised, and are awaiting orders for landing procedures.

(ooc: you sneaky bugger lol)

"This is Blacktower International Airport, flight KW285, you are clear for land. I repeat, you are clear for land."

(AC, since you havnt been here for awhile, Im curious if you read everything that has happened. Such as me threatening to expose your Father nation if you do not leave DAI and Blacktower imediatley.)

OOC: Yes the damage from the destruction of the weapon would be has high as a dirty bomb, but it would really destroy most of the weapon, we are prepared to clean up the radition and hazards from it, but it prevents a nuclear explosion which will kill hundreds of thousands, and destroy the entire complex and its surrounding areas, one building lost against your whole DAI center, which is really better?

Oh and anubis, I was really generous with letting you units escape from that Hell I created as your troops landed, over 1000 planes and helicopters slamming thousands of bullets with miniguns and missles at your troops while 10 huge battleships accurately slam your forces AFTER two waves of missiles at your incoming planes, your time is so up.

I think that, that question was directed at me...
Blacktower, like I said earlier, a small explosion destroying the bomb (or whatever triggers it, if such accuracy is possible) should not detonate the actual nuke. It takes a very powerfull explosion to do so. However, Tanthan seems to have over the edge. WAY over the edge.

""Phoenixius OOC: SOund and radio waves are totally different things - sound is merely molecules bouncing off of each other to transmit sound, radio waves is electromagnetic energy, and travels in 'waves'.""

Thank you, that's what I thought. Timmoran said otherwise.

OOC: Blacktower, maybe you should try reading the posts - you missed this: OOC: Sorry about the delay - had lots to do. Oh and Blacktower, their carrying on their mission - considering that you only know who this is OOC, and ICily you know nothing - no paper trails, and besides, if there were any they would be in my military, which the media has no access to, so good luck tryign to prove it.

Ok I will admit i made a mistake, Radar is electromagnetic waves while sonar is sound waves. Sorry for the mess up. Aside from that there is no difference in the way that it works. The major difference between sound waves and electromagnetic waves is that electromagnetic waves do not need a medium (i.e. air) to travel through. They can move through a vacum. In explanation of how stealth bombers work, has little to do with its speed and altitude. Angles that approach 90 degress reflect electro-waves more sharply so construction design can help to lessen the radar blip. Also most stealth bombers are coated in a special magnetic paint that is supposed to help keep the wave interference down. Much more than that on the stealth bomber part talk to a military scientist. Once again sorry for the mix up but it has little to know effect on the outcome and my explanation earlier.

Oh i didn't see one part. Sound is not just molecules bouncing off each other they do travel in very defined waves. Sound waves and electro waves are different but they are very close siblings.

IC:
While the Talon Osprey flew from the target zone, June's mind wandered from the sadness of leaving comrades behind, to sudden curiousity about just when the beams would fire. As the seconds ticked by, she began to grow impatient and her mind jumped back to those still left behind. June stood up and opened up the small bone mic that was implanted into her skull, allowing her to speak normally over the loud thumping of the engines.

"Tanthanian armed forces, this is Talon SpecOps, whoever's listening, go to UHF secure."

Static crackeled on her radio.

"Never mind, someone, just tell me, when the h3ll are you gonna fire those d4mn cannons?! Anubis forces are nearly inside the complex, wait any longer, and hitting their forces there will mean decimating DAI. Every one who could make it has already evaced, so fire now!"

Still only static. June shut off her radio, and just threw herself down into the seat. She put her head down into her hands and cuped her face.

June looked back through the viewport at DAI,
"Just fire now, or we'll lose DAI." she thought, as the plane moved off to join with the rest of the retreating Kyanges elements

OOC: Well, this isn't a science forum, so I'm sure that no one is going to ridicule you for that little mix up. And you're right about how little that affects the concept behind radar, so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah this was more an excuse to post and to bump this thread, than anything of real importance.

"Sir we must fire now! They are entering!" yelled Mirelle from one of the Black Hawks hovering high over DAI.

The camera showed everyone on board that the forces were right in alignment. The Black hawks began to speed away at full any second the satellites would fire destroying everything. Set to hit the largest area possible would stop a nuclear explosion and still destroy what they needed to.
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Sephiroth smirked and pushed the big red button, sending the signal to fire the particle beam cannons. In space the satellites all at once shot the particle beam down on the complex and the streets below. 50 would all fire the shots before they would get out of range.
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From the ground the cloud parted instantly being burned up by the bright blue light which came closer to the ground. The first beam struck directly infront of the complex, the building caught on fire from the extreme heat as beam raced down the steet at 20 mph leaving a trail of scorched earth and molten lava in its wake. Then three more beams fired and struck right on the complex, cutting the roof apart and sending it down into the flames, temperatures soared to over 7000 degrees F.

Then the rest of them fired all at once, the ground shook as the complex exploded taking out all the explosives and destroying all of the nearby buildings making them crash into the ground in flames, the dust and smoke broke up from the intense heat caused by the particle beam. It was only a matter of 20 seconds for them all to fire, but the complex in which the enemy was running into and the areas around it were all vaporized and the earth under them set ablaze from the intensity of the cannons.

(Basically the entire complex and all the area around it for 300 feet a got hit by the beams or the intense heat, all nearby buildings for DAI are on fire if they are within that range. The beams were set at the widest area they could effect so that there is no chance for the bomb to go off.)
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"Oh wow! Now that's a light show, those cannons moving along burning everything absolutely splendid!" cackled the general, watching the pillars of light decimate everything in that small area. "Get the naval forces on the line, I want a full artillery strike if ANYTHING moves in the area still, if you see a guy crawling on the ground on fire I want to see all of our working artillery blast him to bits!"

The fires from the particle beam satellites burned brightly, and the scorched earth showed that this was a first successful test of a weapon that Tanthan will not regularly use.

OOC: They will need to wait a full month before they can fire again, but they aren't strong individually anyways. Had to also wait for you guys to get close enough for it to work on Ph....uh...Anubis.

Got a pic of the first blast then. http://vivisan.tripod.com/cannon.JPG
(tripod doesn't like off site linking, load it up though.)

I, Demonstanbul, would like to offer my help so not only to kill the boredom but so I can get my battle ships from your store.

OOC: We all have our reasons...
...some, maybe not as good willed as others...

*Walks off laughing maniacally*

OOC: Blacktower, maybe you should try reading the posts - you missed this:


Blacktower has been conducting an in-depth surveilance operation, tracking radio transmission and relaying transponder points for weeks now, and have finally pinpointed the origional location of teh Father Nation. We know who you are, further details of our discovery will be reveiled in the thread we make telling the world who you are. As you have failed to comply, we have set in motion the revelation of your father nation.

(ooc:We discovered OOC, but have now discovered IC (hence the investigaiton). we are within our rights and should reveil its identity)

OOC: I cant wait!!! as soon as I hear who he is, the army stationed outside of the DAI compound is gonna be on his ass. Damn Im gonna piss my self in anticipation.

OOC: Blacktower, all data was transfered by hand - nothing was ever sent between the host nation and AC via wireless communications. And if you somehow wheedle past that, then I'd just love to see you lot try and RP an attack against the host nation - we have a wonderful defense system that needs to have a full scale assault tested on it.

IC:

Just as the particle cannons fire, the general in the field sends one last mesage: "SIr, it worked! They are destroying th DAI compound by themselves! Keep a look out, and if there isn't significant damage, you can go ahead with the backup."

The rest of the AC troops were lost in the blast.

(who said I was going to attack now? Im sure there is a large host of nations that would love this information, especially if the Anubis Coalition EVER take action against ANYONE again.)

Alex Dyrell sat quietly in his office, reading the Telefax over and over again in disbeleif.


DAI compound 73% obliterated by a Particle Beam Satelites from Tanthan. As a precautionary action, it destroyed any hopes of AC Nuke detonation in the compound, stopping any further Deaths in Blacktower due to radiation. The remainder of the Compound is still secure by DAI and Blacktower joint forces, as well as a host of allied nations. AC forces have been defeated.


"I cant beleive they thought destroying the DAI was the best way to solve this. No matter. I suppose it is time to inform AJ Henderson that he needs to construct a new facility."

later.....

AJ Henderson picked up the phone. It was the Benevolent Alex Dyrell on the other line. "Hello.... what?.... The entire thing is gone? WHAT THE H3LL!!! oh, only 73%, cause thats so much better. Those damn AC troops, I hope they died a slow and painful death.... Particle Beam? well, sounds cool, hope it hurt. Alright, at least we managed to save our technicians and specs from destruction. Time to rebuild I suppose."

(I really didn't think it'd be THAT strong, but whats better then dealing with a nuclear explosion which would have killed all of your forces, kyang's forces, hardt and negri's and many of mine (20 miles out is not exactly the safest for nuclear radiation).)

IC: Seeing as how the satellites did not only hit the target, but also destroyed a large part of DAI, we know it is our responablity to send engineers, technicians, dozers, supplies and compensation funding to rebuild and hopefully improve the DAI complex to prevent future attacks from low-life nuke carrying terrorists bent on destruction.

Construction can start immediately, our An-225 Mriya cargo planes will land huge amounts of supplies of steel, titanium and construction teams to rebuild the complex at a far faster rate then Blacktower could fund alone. $20 Billion will also be given to Blacktower after we rebuild the compound to repay damages and ensure new research and creation of new weapons to further protect ourselves from 'rogue' terrorist groups.

OOC: Also AC messed up, we can track and find the possible position of the base because of the message sent will be able to be picked up and its signal strength can be used to determine the maximum range (a big huge dish would get it, but those are pretty hard to miss) and location of the base. It may not give a huge idea of where they are, but it gives a nice good shot at finding how far away they are as messages sent by ground troops without good (or even with) have limited ranges. (Also additional messages can be picked up by outposts that will relay the message to the base (and give Blacktower a nice REAL position of the base down to 50 miles.))

"WOOOHOOOO!!!! We kicked Anubis's a55!!!11!!!1!!" yelled June.
Ki looked around the team, all had dirty, but cheerful faces.
Jun opened the Bone mic once more and
"Centcom, SpecOps reporting, mission accomplished, returning home."
"Roger that Talon, send the message for all remaining forces to return to base. Leave a small security detail in place, and relay to DAI that ROK Engineering Corp is dispatching a team to asisst with reconstruction. See if they need their help."
"Roger that CentCom, will relay, out."

The slow An-225s thundered away into the distance. A small detachmant still remained, providing security for the Tanthan team.

Tanthan just leave those reconstruction teams. You have another war to fight. Kyanges can handle security here.

"We beat them without detonation! YA!" shouted a cheerful dictator.

"Sir, we have prepared for war with a new enemy." commented a tall and balding advisor.

"However tonight is a celebration for putting an end to a major threat, we also made sure that the 60 people who lost their lives in the conflict did far more then was expected of them, for it is the reason why we could only tell the enemies plan and take the action against them. The defending forces losses were so small while the enemies were total losses."

The leader took a sip of his wine and smiled and added, "We will rebuild DAI as is the only honorable thing to do and deal with our other war later, the time is now to celebrate and enjoy ourselves. Give my General a badge for successful completion of our first military action and success. Do note his methods while unconventional are quite logical. If he had waited chances are it would have been the end for only Anubis Coalition and much of DAI, but it would have been the end of hundreds of thousands of lives."

*Demonstanbul orders 2000 (1000 Mig-31, and 1000 Su-37) planes over to Blacktower's closest military base near his capital city to help defend against attacks*

*Sends over two Tu-22 Backfire with Su-27 as escort :)*

*drops off 200 Snipers*

Message from dictator of Demonstanbul:
"I have sent these forces to aid in your defence and in your attack, the faster we get his done the faster I get my ships!"

*Demonstanbul orders 2000 (1000 Mig-31, and 1000 Su-37) planes over to Blacktower's closest military base near his capital city to help defend against attacks*

*Sends over two Tu-22 Backfire with Su-27 as escort :)*

*drops off 200 Snipers*

Message from dictator of Demonstanbul:
"I have sent these forces to aid in your defence and in your attack, the faster we get his done the faster I get my ships!"

Ummm... war ended. Anubis has already been defeated. Thanks though, we could use extra security while Kyanges and Tanthan focus on the reconstruction effort. I've left a security detail, but as I said, the extra security is welcome. That is if you're going to stay.

OOC: Also AC messed up, we can track and find the possible position of the base because of the message sent will be able to be picked up and its signal strength can be used to determine the maximum range (a big huge dish would get it, but those are pretty hard to miss) and location of the base. It may not give a huge idea of where they are, but it gives a nice good shot at finding how far away they are as messages sent by ground troops without good (or even with) have limited ranges. (Also additional messages can be picked up by outposts that will relay the message to the base (and give Blacktower a nice REAL position of the base down to 50 miles.))


wow, that is actually right on the money lol. And those 50 miles are within the borders of the Father nation, hence, giving me its location :D

Hmmm, which message? I'm not about to search. Even if it's right there, can somebody tell me?

***POLITICAL TRANSMISSION***

From: AJ Henderson
To: Allied Nations

We here at DAI would like to thank you for all your support during these hard times. We have begun laying blueprints for the new facilities and have alreayd found a much larger area which will house it. As thanks, you shall all receive a 15% discount on ALL FUTURE PURCHASES, as well as have a building on the compound named after your Nation. Thank you once again, and we hope to have DAI up and running soon enough.

AJ Henderson
CEO
Dark Angel Industries

***END TRANSMISSION***


(ooc: DemonStanbul, unfortunatley you will not receive the discount as you showed up after the battle. Thank you for your support anyways :) )

wow, that is actually right on the money lol. And those 50 miles are within the borders of the Father nation, hence, giving me its location :D

OOC: hehe, its not like people like us to just let something slip by like that, though my intelligence is not exactly on the same par, we don't scan all radio frequencies and have a vast network to bring down the point of which the base could be.

EDIT: Thanks man, I was preferred customer before to, have to defend each other of course, those battleships and carriers are so nice lol, I can fit basically anything I want on them and can change the carriers to hold tons of artillery or other stuff to work on them. (oh and I am going to keep the oracles on the carriers, 3 for each ship. I want a hospital carrier or two lol, but your front has been down for awhile lol)

And yet somehow at one point you said I had a problem with making images from text. When I had said that I had not yet read all the stuff.
Somehow...
...you missed that. lol.
(You now what I'm talking about. lol)
(I did forgive you already, so don't think that I'm trying to start anything.)

We tracked the transmissions (ie: AC and the Father Nations posts) and checked them with the suspected father nation. Almost always they posted within minutes of eachother (perhaps not in this thread, but others). It is with this information that we learned of its origin.

The new Dark Angel Industries should be finished within the year. Because of this attack, it is taking precautions and beefing up its defence. When finished, it will be the equivilant of an extremely well defended City. There will be AA systems, Ground, Air, and Naval troops performing patrols, and a Much more defended perimeter and compound. Fortunatley for everyone, the Bio/Chem facility was not struck by the Particle Beam, and thus no toxins were released into Blacktower.

We thank everyone for there ongoing assistance and open our arms to your rebuilding crews and donations.

OOC: Its not over until the Fat Lady blows up, and she hasn't done so yet! Oh and Blacktower, how could you discover the base inside the host nation, when its considerable further away? Thats very interesting. And actually I'm quite looking forward to a war with my nation against all your allies - might just allow me to annex some nations.

Oh, and this next bit is while your various troops and allies troops are still reeling from the severity of the particle satellite attack - just to allow for the time when its safest to fly a plane over and not get shot at as the AA weapons are all out of commision, or their opperators and confused.

IC:

Though the AC force was gone, the destruction wraught by the satellites still caused terrible damage. Not quite enough, in the terms of the General, and so he ordered the strike that his field general had prepared.

The small plane flying towards Blacktower International Airport was flying alon quietly, until a small light came on. Nothing sinister about that, epecially in a plane, but this light had a special meaning - the Fat Lady is about to come on stage! Shifting its course away from the airport, the little plane began flying towards the severly damaged DAI complex. Reaching over, the pilot flicked a small switch on a bland suitcase.

A little over an hour later, the small plane flew directly into the heart of the DAI complex, and the pilot detonated the suitcase nuke from about 100m in the air:

http://serendipity.nofadz.com/more/nuke1.jpg

I never said that I discovered a base. I said I had triangulated the origin of the transmissions, and they had pinpointed the are which they came from... which was withing the Father Nations borders. Hence, teaching me of the Father Nation.

And let me get this straight. The Nuke Suitcase somehow managed to go from Being on the ground, to being in a plane, and being detonated? How did you do this? You told us the Nuke Suitcase was on the ground with your soldiers. You cant say the nuke is in one place and then it magically appears in another.

OOC: dude that is so godmodding, besides did you forget what is in the air already!? HAHAHAHAH! My planes launched before it to deal with you second nuke. My helicopters and harriers may be out of missiles, but certainly not my F-16's.

Besides it would be shot down so fast anyways, stop godmodding. We never DAI at all, I have yet to pull out ANY of my forces except the cargo ones.

and even so, DAI is already being reconstructed, bigger, and more defended then the old facility. You did not destroy any specs, or even scientists for that matter. All you blew up were some buildings.

OOC: LOL ya even IF it got through the 'circle of protection' and the planes which can easily take down a lone plane. (My carriers have radar and would have been able to see you many many many miles away and would have destroyed it on sight, and even if the bomb blew up it wouldn't do anything except kill some fish while we clean it up.)

Ummm...did every one forget the airforce that I still had in the area around DAI? The security forces I have are an AIR SQUADRON. How the h3ll did that little planemake it through the 21st Talon squadron that was still flying around DAI the whole time.

10 Air Borne Laser systems.
40 KC-135R Stratotankers
4 E-3 Sentry AWACS
4 J-STARS
6 GA-225-A Gunships. (Modified An-225s)
1000 V-22 Ospreys
2005 F/A-91-B "Savage" MRCAs
1000 F-22 Raptors
2500 RAH-66 Commanches
20 B-70 Valkyrie Bombers

tell me that, please. Provide a good reason, and MAYBE we'll recognize you attack.

who knows. the AC seems to be able to do miraculous things. One single PASSENGER PLANE, that was asking for Landing permission, suddenly changes course and heads for DAI. Not only would the Blacktower International Airport wonder wtf is going on and alert the Airforce, anyone with a brain in their head would figure this thing had something up its Turbine and would shoot it from the sky.

Blacktower does not recognise the Nuclear Detonation unless you can provide some sort of reasoning.

OOC: I only said that suitcase looking like the suitcase nuke were sent down with the troops, not the nuke itself. As for the plane, notice I said that it struck soon after the particle cannons fired, when your troops will be awed/confused/amazed/wandering around, and therefore you won't be very wary, considering you think that you've just destroyed the last of your enemy - more than likely you'll be partying and celebrating. The only people who would probably take note would be the various leaders, and they wouldn't be able to organise an effective defence with soldiers who are celebrating.

Tanthan, what second nuke?

As for change of course Blacktower, it would be noted of course, but again, your troops are probably celebrating the end of the war here in their homeland.

OOC: Sorry about the delay - had lots to do. Oh and Blacktower, their carrying on their mission - considering that you only know who this is OOC, and ICily you know nothing - no paper trails, and besides, if there were any they would be in my military, which the media has no access to, so good luck tryign to prove it.

IC:

More men died as they scrambled to place the explosives - they had a few placed already, done while out of sight of the enemy. They dodged around cover, placing explosives as they went, men falling down to snipers, them continuously firing up at the snipers.


Meanwhile the remainder of the army was moving towards the DAI complex, getting closer and closer. Theree weren't many left now after the unceasing firing, but now they could see their objective they began to push, surging towards the defences of the DAI complex, the nuke ready to detonate at a moments notice.

ahem....?


A little over an hour later, the small plane flew directly into the heart of the DAI complex, and the pilot detonated the suitcase nuke from about 100m in the air

I dont consider 1 hour to be soon. and your trying to tell me that of the and thousands of troops invovled in the battle, not a SINGLE ONE would head the call from a military leader to pick up an G/A missile launcher and blow that plane form the sky, or hop in a jet and intercept it? over the course of an hour???? *cough cough*

I think the biggest mistake here is that despite the fact that the war is over, most allied nations have yet to draw back their aircraft. As for my aircraft they were barely used in this battle and still are loaded to kill. They still have permission to open fire and would take out any aircraft in the warzone.

Please dont try to say this isnt godmodding because it is absurd to assume that the plane got through primary defenses without alerting the DAI or BT, then it got passed my battle cruisers. Then it got passed all of our aircraft. It's just not realistic and I urge the DAI not to accept this as part of the war.

Also Id like to thank the DAI for their generous donation, and we looking foward to dealing with you in the time to come.

Well since I'm here mine as well be security :). Just send the Jets around orbiting I suppose.

General Powhill sent a message to his wing leader. "Pull out your troops soldier. I am still not sure why we were here." "Sure thing." He ordered all of the planes to refuel, then head out to ITC.

Because AC failed to provice a logical explenation for the methods used to detonate a nuclear suitcase within Blacktower and the DAI compound even after a chance was given, The government of Blacktower does not recognise the detonation.

OOC: ya, if we would have failed to destroy the other it would have been real, this was a pathetic trick (I could have sworn the number of nukes totalled 2 at one point), but for overwhelming forces, and impossible odds the only thing to do is ignore it.

P.S. I say we pinpoint and destroy the AC for even TRYING to do this.

(My leaders were celebrating, troops weren't, who the heck leaves a battle 1 hour after the last KNOWN enemy was destroyed.)

OOC: ya, if we would have failed to destroy the other it would have been real, this was a pathetic trick (I could have sworn the number of nukes totalled 2 at one point), but for overwhelming forces, and impossible odds the only thing to do is ignore it.

P.S. I say we pinpoint and destroy the AC for even TRYING to do this.

(My leaders were celebrating, troops weren't, who the heck leaves a battle 1 hour after the last KNOWN enemy was destroyed.)


(ooc: We are seriously debating this.)

Perhaps we should start a new forum and see who we could get in support of the invasion. This is if, of course, Black Tower reveals the father nation and is willing to commit to an invasion.

OOC: I'll tell you what Blacktower - you let the nuke through, and I'll let you release the name of the host nation. Sound good?

OOC: hhahhaha hate to say it but your not really in a position to do that with Blacktower, and why would he instill hundreds of millions of damage and hundreds of thousands of lives lost to only be able to release the name which he has?

OOC: Because I can't see how he got the host nation's name other than in OOC information. If he does release it, I'll just ignore it.

We tracked the transmissions (ie: AC and the Father Nations posts) and checked them with the suspected father nation. Almost always they posted within minutes of eachother (perhaps not in this thread, but others). It is with this information that we learned of its origin.


OOC: Also AC messed up, we can track and find the possible position of the base because of the message sent will be able to be picked up and its signal strength can be used to determine the maximum range (a big huge dish would get it, but those are pretty hard to miss) and location of the base. It may not give a huge idea of where they are, but it gives a nice good shot at finding how far away they are as messages sent by ground troops without good (or even with) have limited ranges. (Also additional messages can be picked up by outposts that will relay the message to the base (and give Blacktower a nice REAL position of the base down to 50 miles.))

So how about I dont accept the nuke, and I still reveil the Name of the Father nation? sound good? excellent. Who wants to know the Father nation? Anyone?

The Government of Kyanges would like to know!

lol bet I know ^^

it should be pretty obvious lol. and to the "Mystery" Father Nation. I would like to point out that I now have an extensive nuclear arsenal.... and If Im not mistaken.... you have a storefront yourself.......

Tanthan, TG me who you think it is :)

If your right you get a gold star!

OOC: yes, I definitly wanna know who this leech is

IC: Cecil, after having wandered into a band of gypsies, mistaking them for enemy troops, gets word over the radio, that many of the forces have been killed or wounded in a last ditch effort to save DAI. His orders are that 75% of the remaining troops are to be sent home to the mother nation, and the other 25% are to stay and help all those that were wounded in the attack, they are also to help with the rebuilding of the DAI comounds

OOC: just something to explain the briefcase thing earlier, and also to show i still support Blacktower and DAI

Just a heads up..... The new DAI facilities are now OPEN!!!!

to visit the Grand Re-opening, click HERE (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372722)

OOC: Ah well, it was worth trying - though when you release my nations name, and all of you come after my blood, be prepared to die, quickly.

OOC: Frankly I am not that stupid....Blacktower did wrong, you did wrong. I won't fight you anyways, my intrests were protected, the DAI compound was rebuilt and I have no need to go and get rid of a fine storefront who produces actually some decent pieces of weaponry. AC will die, but definately not the father nation.

EDIT: I already did blacktower, check your messages.

OOC: Sorry I couldn't help you out much, Blacktower. My comp has been killing me lately.

IC:

Ratheian Special Ops were sort of confused as to where to go until receiving a message on their viewscreens.

Job well done. Airport to the west of your location. IL-76 will be waiting.

The Ops arrived at their destination in roughly 4 hours and were greeted by a Ratheian Commander. They entered into the aircraft and it flew off into the sky.

TO: Blacktower
FROM: President Zaitsev

We have become rather fond of your storefront and will donate 20 Billion USD to the cause of rebuilding your facilities. Hope to do business with you again. Long days and pleasant nights.

OOC: Ah well, it was worth trying - though when you release my nations name, and all of you come after my blood, be prepared to die, quickly.


and when you realise who my allies are, be prepared to roll over and accept defeat. Blacktower is not planning on releasing the name of the Father Nation, we only threaten to release it should AC troops ever come into conflict with the DAI or Blacktower again.

OOC: Oh, I don't think a massive list of allies would put me down - our defences are ready for that scale of attack. As for releasing the host nations name - well thats for you to decide - I was all for it.

IC:

Along the ethers of the internet a faint call is heard: "We shall strike again - and you shall know us when we do, for it will be the last you ever hear..."