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This is an alliance for all nations of Earth V that are in the Southern Hemisphere. If you wish to join you must agree to the following:

1. All member nations will trade embassies with each other
2. This is not a military alliance and no member shall be obligated to come to the defense of another member nation by reason of membership in S.H.I.T.
3. That said, no member nation shall war with another member nation except for good cause shown. Member nations warring with each other are subject to suspension or ejection from S.H.I.T. upon a vote of the commission.
4. Each member nation shall have a person appointed to the S.H.I.T. commission who shall have one vote.
5. The purpose of the Southern Hemisphere Import Treaty is to ensure levelized trading between the nations of the Southern Hemisphere.
6. no member of S.H.I.T. shall impose a tarrif on goods imported from another member nation save and except said tarrif is approved by the S.H.I.T. commission.
7. The S.H.I.T. organization recognizes that each member nation is different and has different strenghts and weaknesses when it comes to the production of goods and raw materials for export. The purpose of the organization is to ensure that all member nations are able to trade on a "level playing field" with all other member nations so that all member nations receive the benefit of fair prices on imported goods from other member nations and to ensure basically stable pricing of commodities.
8. If your application to join S.H.I.T. is rejected you must wait 30 RL days before you may reapply. If it is rejected then, you must waid 90 RL days to reapply. If it is rejected then, you may not reapply under any circumstance.

founding members of S.H.I.T.
Mauiwowee - Australia, Brazil, Hawaii, French Polynesia, Northern Mariana Islands, Clipperton, Christmas, Tonga and Naura Islands.
Norleans - Peru, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida

Other nations in the southern hemisphere of Earth V are invited to join, just post here.

other members
Kopparbergs - Ecuador, Argentina, Malta and Algeria
Fodmodmadtol - Venezuela
Sharina - Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize, Alaska, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Nevada, California, and Arizona
JeetKuneDo - Hong Kong, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia
Warta Endor - Malaysia, Brunei, Southern Indonesia, Chagos Islands, Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea
Wirraway - India, Southwest China, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar and Burma

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Information about S.H.I.T. members:

JeetKuneDo
S.H.I.T. Representative: Steve Chang, S.H.I.T. Representative

Major Exports
Tin
Tungsten
Timber
Tobacco
Rice
Electronics (including our assortment of video games)
Gemstones and Jewelry
Iron ore
Furniture
Clothing and Garmets
Rubber
Cotton
and Other foods: sweet potatoes, vegetables, corn, coffee, sugarcane, tea, peanuts, water buffalo, pigs, cattle, poultry, cassava(tapioca), coconuts, and soybeans.

Major Imports
Western foods (fruits like oranges, vegetables etc.)
Oil
Some Silver
Some Steel
Some Coal
Nickel

Warta Endor
S.H.I.T. Representative: Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. Representative

Major Exports
Oil
Gas
High Tech (computers, chips)
Clothing, cotton and silk
Tropical Fruit
Tropical Hardwood
Nickel
Bauxite
small amounts of gold and precious stones
Spices
Rubber
Furniture
Bricks (whoa :O)
Magnesium
all kinds of metals
Rice
Cars
meat

Major Imports
Dates
Chocolate
Coconuts
Toys
Transport systems
Vegetables
Weapons

Sharina
S.H.I.T. Representative: Ms. Jenna Lan'ac, S.H.I.T. Representative

Major Exports
Raw resources
1. Iron
2. Tungsten
3. Copper
4. Zinc
5. Nickel
6. Magnesium
7. Coal
8. Oil
9. Natural Gas
10. Timber

Manufactured Goods

1. Computers
2. Steel
3. Railroad material
4. Railroad locomotives and carriages
5. Electronics
6. Furniture
7. Beef based foodstuffs
8. Paper
9. Lumber
10. Construction machinery

Major Imports
Automobiles
Textiles
Medical equipment
Wines
Rubber
Medicines

Mauiwowee
S.H.I.T. Representative: Breega Bardoe, S.H.I.T. Head

Major Exports
non-monetary quality (i.e. industrial quality) gold
raw coal
iron
lamb/sheep meat
beef
raw fine glass quality silica
reactor grade uranium
Marijuana
various medicines

Major Imports

Fodmodmadtol
S.H.I.T. Representative: Ms. Dasani Springs, S.H.I.T. Representative

Major Exports
cash crops
Coffee
Cocoa
Tobacco
Sugarcane
Cotton
Sesame
Sunflower
Cocaine

Animal Stock
Poultry
Fish
Lamb

Energy
Crude Oil
Refined Oil
Natural Gas
Liquefied Natural Gas
Coal
Hydroelectric
Thermoelectric
notePower needs are transferred primarily, or are projected to, with neighbors which are contiguous to our borders. However, Oils, Coals, and Gasses can be traded far more openly. Most rigs are set offshore or on the coastline.

Major Imports

Kopparbergs
S.H.I.T. Representative: Mr. Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.

Major Exports

Major Imports

Norleans
S.H.I.T. Representative: Ms. Bhatone Rouge', S.H.I.T. Ambassador

Major Exports
Oil
Natural Gas
Refined Petroleum Products (gasoline, kerosine, etc.)
Major Imports
Copper

Wirraway
S.H.I.T. Representative: Peter Vandermeek, S.H.I.T. Representative

Major Exports

Major Imports

S.H.I.T. sounds good. Kopparbergs want to join.

Kopparbergs - Ecuador, Argentina and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.

S.H.I.T. sounds good. Kopparbergs want to join.

Kopparbergs - Ecuador, Argentina and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands.

Welcome to the club, your application is accepted.

OOC:
Feels like we should have more members.

Hope Texarkana will join us. Maybe Fodmodmadtol too.

I will assign one person in Kopparbergs Government the position of Secretary of S.H.I.T. later today.

My Invasion has been recognized! The Fodian Federa South would like to apply to join the S.H.I.T.

My Invasion has been recognized! The Fodian Federa South would like to apply to join the S.H.I.T.

Your name has been added to the list of members and we welcome you. Dyethylamide has offered us the use of a building in Rio as headquarters for SHIT and its staff. Does everyone agree that this would be a good place? We could call it the SHIT House.

We're willing to join, and Rio sounds like a nice place to have our HQ, might I suggest an annual meeting during Carnival season.

We're willing to join, and Rio sounds like a nice place to have our HQ, might I suggest an annual meeting during Carnival season.

Welcome to the club.

Dyethylamide has offered us the use of a building in Rio as headquarters for SHIT and its staff.
Yes, Rio will be good for our HQ.

The Government of Kopparbergs now has a Secretary of S.H.I.T:

Mr. Anders Bergdahl

He will be the person responsible for all S.H.I.T.-actions in Kopparbergs. He works in tight cooperation with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs Åke Stålhandske, and the Secretary of Trade Patrik Winstell.

As a first action in S.H.I.T., we asks if any of the member-states exports oil? We currently imports oil from the middle east, and we happily changes that to import from a S.H.I.T.-state instead.

Kingdom of Kopparbergs
Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.

The Government of Kopparbergs now has a Secretary of S.H.I.T:

Mr. Anders Bergdahl

He will be the person responsible for all S.H.I.T.-actions in Kopparbergs. He works in tight cooperation with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs Åke Stålhandske, and the Secretary of Trade Patrik Winstell.

As a first action in S.H.I.T., we asks if any of the member-states exports oil? We currently imports oil from the middle east, and we happily changes that to import from a S.H.I.T.-state instead.

Kingdom of Kopparbergs
Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.

Fodmodmadtol should have a significant oil industry and Norleans has a nice one from it's Gulf of Mexico rigs. Between the two I'd assume we can cure your middle east "addiction." TG them and I will as well.

The Government of Kopparbergs now has a Secretary of S.H.I.T:

Mr. Anders Bergdahl

He will be the person responsible for all S.H.I.T.-actions in Kopparbergs. He works in tight cooperation with the Secretary of Foreign Affairs Åke Stålhandske, and the Secretary of Trade Patrik Winstell.

As a first action in S.H.I.T., we asks if any of the member-states exports oil? We currently imports oil from the middle east, and we happily changes that to import from a S.H.I.T.-state instead.

Kingdom of Kopparbergs
Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.

Dear Mr. Bergdahl:

Hello sir. I am Ms. Bhatone Rouge', S.H.I.T. Ambassador from Norleans. We can help you with your oil issues quite handily. Currently we produce

(1) 3,933,260 barrels of crude oil per day;
(2) 17,657,840,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day;
(3) 1,677,983 barrels worth of refined petroleum (i.e. gasoline, motor oil, etc.)/day; with additional operations and sales to level out crude production and distribution.

I'm not sure what price you are paying the thieves in the middle east, but as a fellow S.H.I.T. member and because geographically we are much closer together, I am sure that we can beat their price significantly. Please let us know how much oil you need and what you are paying currently and we'll be in a position to hammer out a deal with no problem. BTW, I have asked to also determine what you offer to export in quanity to see if it is a product we may have need of.

Sincerely,
Bhatone Rouge'
S.H.I.T. Ambassador

(1) 3,933,260 barrels of crude oil per day;
(2) 17,657,840,000 cubic feet of natural gas per day;
(3) 1,677,983 barrels worth of refined petroleum (i.e. gasoline, motor oil, etc.)/day; with additional operations and sales to level out crude production and distribution.

I'm not sure what price you are paying the thieves in the middle east, but as a fellow S.H.I.T. member and because geographically we are much closer together, I am sure that we can beat their price significantly. Please let us know how much oil you need and what you are paying currently and we'll be in a position to hammer out a deal with no problem. BTW, I have asked to also determine what you offer to export in quanity to see if it is a product we may have need of.

Sincerely,
Bhatone Rouge'
S.H.I.T. Ambassador

Dear Bhatone Rouge',
Thank you for your offer. First, I need to tell you and all other members of S.H.I.T. that Algeria and Malta also are incorporated in Kingdom of Kopparbergs (OOC: confirmed by TGSR). OK, now to the oil business:

We have calculated our oil consumption and our internal oil production, and currently we're consuming around 5,000 million barrels a day. In Argentina and Algeria we have a production of 2,311 barrels/day. We therefore need to import around 2,700 barrels/day to cover our needs. We have a contract with a nation in the middle east for 2,000 barrels/day, the rest is bought on the spot market. We’re paying $25/barrel for the middle east oil.

I hope that you can make a good deal with us!

As for our export, well in Argentina we have a fairly large production of metals, i.e. lead, zinc, copper, iron ore and manganese. We also have uranium, but that’s not of very large quantities. We also export a lot of food, we’re one of the worlds top five exporters of grain and beef. In Ecuador we have a couple of gold mines, and there’s also the rain forest which gives us large quantities of timber.

Sincerely,
Anders Bergdal, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Dear Bhatone Rouge',
Thank you for your offer. First, I need to tell you and all other members of S.H.I.T. that Algeria and Malta also are incorporated in Kingdom of Kopparbergs (OOC: confirmed by TGSR). OK, now to the oil business:

We have calculated our oil consumption and our internal oil production, and currently we're consuming around 5,000 million barrels a day. In Argentina and Algeria we have a production of 2,311 barrels/day. We therefore need to import around 2,700 barrels/day to cover our needs. We have a contract with a nation in the middle east for 2,000 barrels/day, the rest is bought on the spot market. We’re paying $25/barrel for the middle east oil.

I hope that you can make a good deal with us!

As for our export, well in Argentina we have a fairly large production of metals, i.e. lead, zinc, copper, iron ore and manganese. We also have uranium, but that’s not of very large quantities. We also export a lot of food, we’re one of the worlds top five exporters of grain and beef. In Ecuador we have a couple of gold mines, and there’s also the rain forest which gives us large quantities of timber.

Sincerely,
Anders Bergdal, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Dear Mr. Bergdal:

We'll supply the entire 2,700 barrels/day you need at a fluctuating price calculated as follows: Every Friday at 5:00 pm Central Standard time the average spot price per barrel for the prior fifteen (15) days is to be calculated, we will then discount that average by $1.47 per barrel to cover the decreased shipping costs or, if such a discount is more than 2% below actual production costs, we will supply it at a cost of 1% below actual production costs. You will then purchase 40,500 barrels (15 days X 2,700 barrels/day) at the price established in this fashion. Assuming you accept, we'd request a 3 year "rolling" contract that renews for an additional year, unless you or we request otherwise, each year after the first two (2) years. In short, every 15 days, you will buy from us 40,500 barrels of crude at a price that is either $1.47 per barrel below the average spot price for the past 15 days or between 1% and 2% below our actual production costs for the immediately prior 15 days. [OOC: if this is too complicated a formula or you don't get the "rolling" part of the contract, let me know, I'll try to explain it better).

As to your exports, copper is in high demand by our computer and tech industries and we import almost 70% of the copper we use at the rate of 959 metric tons/day at spot market prices each day. We'd love to work something out along these lines. How about a reciprocal deal with identical pricing terms for our copper imports? Just an idea.

Sincerely,
Ms. Bhatone Rouge'
Ambassador of SHIT

Dear Mr. Bergdal:

We'll supply the entire 2,700 barrels/day you need at a fluctuating price calculated as follows: Every Friday at 5:00 pm Central Standard time the average spot price per barrel for the prior fifteen (15) days is to be calculated, we will then discount that average by $1.47 per barrel to cover the decreased shipping costs or, if such a discount is more than 2% below actual production costs, we will supply it at a cost of 1% below actual production costs. You will then purchase 40,500 barrels (15 days X 2,700 barrels/day) at the price established in this fashion. Assuming you accept, we'd request a 3 year "rolling" contract that renews for an additional year, unless you or we request otherwise, each year after the first two (2) years. In short, every 15 days, you will buy from us 40,500 barrels of crude at a price that is either $1.47 per barrel below the average spot price for the past 15 days or between 1% and 2% below our actual production costs for the immediately prior 15 days. [OOC: if this is too complicated a formula or you don't get the "rolling" part of the contract, let me know, I'll try to explain it better).

As to your exports, copper is in high demand by our computer and tech industries and we import almost 70% of the copper we use at the rate of 959 metric tons/day at spot market prices each day. We'd love to work something out along these lines. How about a reciprocal deal with identical pricing terms for our copper imports? Just an idea.

Sincerely,
Ms. Bhatone Rouge'
Ambassador of SHIT
We thank you for nice offer about oil. We have discussed this import thing in the government and made the decision that we should cancel the contract with the Middle East as soon as possible. We’re very pleased with your pricing terms of oil, and would like to sign a contract with you. We agree to your terms mentioned above, but we want to add a clause that we may increase or decrease our import of oil from Norleans with 10% from the original 2,700 barrels/day whenever we found it necessary.

We also want to know if the oil we’re about to import is taken from Peru or another country? If it’s coming from Peru it may be a good thing to build a pipeline connecting our two countries.
We have discussed a pipeline between Ecuador and Argentina many times the last years, and maybe it’s the right time to build that pipeline through Peru now? The question is if the pipeline should go through Chile or Bolivia.

We have discussed the copper-export in our seminar yesterday, and we found out that your demand is very large. 959 metric tons/day equals around 350,000 metric tons a year, and our total copper production is only 300,000 metric tons a year in Argentina. Our internal need of copper is around 70,000 metric tons, so we can export 230,000 metric tons a year to Norleans. That amount will not cover your needs completely, but we hope to increase our copper mining shortly.

Sincerely,
Anders Bergdal, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Pipeline through Peru

We have made two different layouts of a pipeline connection Ecuador and Argentina through Peru. One goes along the coast, through Chile and crosses the Andes at the border of Chile-Argentina. The other one goes east of the Andes, through Bolivia. If you agree to build a pipeline through Peru, please tell us which one you think is the best.

Look at the different layouts here: http://members.fortunecity.se/kopparbergs/sa-pipeline.gif

We thank you for nice offer about oil. We have discussed this import thing in the government and made the decision that we should cancel the contract with the Middle East as soon as possible. We’re very pleased with your pricing terms of oil, and would like to sign a contract with you. We agree to your terms mentioned above, but we want to add a clause that we may increase or decrease our import of oil from Norleans with 10% from the original 2,700 barrels/day whenever we found it necessary.

We also want to know if the oil we’re about to import is taken from Peru or another country? If it’s coming from Peru it may be a good thing to build a pipeline connecting our two countries.
We have discussed a pipeline between Ecuador and Argentina many times the last years, and maybe it’s the right time to build that pipeline through Peru now? The question is if the pipeline should go through Chile or Bolivia.

We have discussed the copper-export in our seminar yesterday, and we found out that your demand is very large. 959 metric tons/day equals around 350,000 metric tons a year, and our total copper production is only 300,000 metric tons a year in Argentina. Our internal need of copper is around 70,000 metric tons, so we can export 230,000 metric tons a year to Norleans. That amount will not cover your needs completely, but we hope to increase our copper mining shortly.

Sincerely,
Anders Bergdal, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Dear Mr. Bergdal:

The oil deal is acceptable to us as is the copper deal you set out. About 1/2 our oil is produced in Peru, the rest is produced in oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico (OOC: note we own Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia & Florida as well). We have made the decision to go slow with our oil drilling and exploration in Peru so as to ensure signficant future supplies are available. As to the pipeline, we prefer the one on the coast and will agree to split the cost of construction through Peru 75/25 with you (we'll pay the 75 since the pipeline will benefit us in more ways than just delivering oil to you). I anticipate that Texarkania will also agree to due the same through Chile' should you wish to extend it (OOC: right Tex? You are a part of SHIT too). Please let us know if you have any questions. It looks like we have a deal though, one that benefits us all and keeps our business here at home.

Sincerely,
Ms. Bhatone Rouge'
Ambassador of SHIT

Dear Mr. Bergdal:

The oil deal is acceptable to us as is the copper deal you set out. About 1/2 our oil is produced in Peru, the rest is produced in oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico (OOC: note we own Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia & Florida as well). We have made the decision to go slow with our oil drilling and exploration in Peru so as to ensure signficant future supplies are available. As to the pipeline, we prefer the one on the coast and will agree to split the cost of construction through Peru 75/25 with you (we'll pay the 75 since the pipeline will benefit us in more ways than just delivering oil to you). I anticipate that Texarkania will also agree to due the same through Chile' should you wish to extend it (OOC: right Tex? You are a part of SHIT too). Please let us know if you have any questions. It looks like we have a deal though, one that benefits us all and keeps our business here at home.

Sincerely,
Ms. Bhatone Rouge'
Ambassador of SHIT
OOC: I’m assuming that your Ambassador of S.H.I.T. and my Secretary of S.H.I.T. both are in the S.H.I.T.-house in Rio.

IC:
“OK, this is really good.” says Mr. Bergdal. “I’ll sign this oil-contract. It should be very nice to cancel the deal with the Middle East. Ha ha!” Bergdal was in a good mode. He felt that this oil-contract was a huge relief for Kopparbergs.

“Well then, now it’s a deal! And if you sign this contract of copper delivery, I’ll be very pleased.” said Bergdal with a smile on his lips. He handed over the contract to Mr. Bhatone Rouge’.

“And we first didn’t think that you were serious when you told us that you will pay 75% of the building of the pipeline thru Peru! You should have seen the smile in the Secretary of Finance’s face when I told him that!” Bergdal continued to laugh, and took a zip of coffee.

“We’re going to begin the building process in both Ecuador and Argentina later this month. Thank you again for nice deals! S.H.I.T. is really good for us!”

::: Ms. Bhatone Rouge' - reviewing contracts and talking to herself :::

"hmm, oil amount and price, pipeline deal, no docking or harbor fees for tankers in Venezeula, copper at 2 week discount from world spot prices, yep, it's all here." :::signs contracts:::

"It has been a pleasure Mr. Bergdal. Thanks. Oh, by the way, I've been in touch with Texarkania (OOC: know him in RL) he's been away on some business, but he asked me to let you know that he will approve extending the pipeline through Chile' with no problem and wishes to discuss some further business with you in the near future when he returns from a business trip."

Dear Ms. Rhouge' and Mr. Bergdal:

We will gladly allow the pipeline to continue through Chile' and you are also welcome to pass it through Columbia if need be. We can also make up the difference in Norlean's copper needs and the amount to be supplied by Kopparbergs with our own copper production. We'll split 50/50 the cost of the pipeline through Chile' and/or Columbia. All we ask is that in addition to copper being purchased by Norleans (which we'll sell on the same terms as Kopparbergs) is that both of you agree to import our fruit and coffee production in a manner that guarrantees our market a stable source of revenue and guarranteed exports. We'd like to hear your proposals in this regard.

Sincerely,
Mr. Geraldo Hevaria
S.H.I.T. Master

Dear Ms. Rhouge' and Mr. Bergdal:

We will gladly allow the pipeline to continue through Chile' and you are also welcome to pass it through Columbia if need be. We can also make up the difference in Norlean's copper needs and the amount to be supplied by Kopparbergs with our own copper production. We'll split 50/50 the cost of the pipeline through Chile' and/or Columbia. All we ask is that in addition to copper being purchased by Norleans (which we'll sell on the same terms as Kopparbergs) is that both of you agree to import our fruit and coffee production in a manner that guarrantees our market a stable source of revenue and guarranteed exports. We'd like to hear your proposals in this regard.

Sincerely,
Mr. Geraldo Hevaria
S.H.I.T. Master
Dear Mr. Geraldo Hevaria,

We’re glad you will join the pipeline-project. We accept a pipeline through Ecuador to the Colombian border, and we’re willing to pay 50% of the building cost for the part of the pipeline inside Ecuador’s borders. You will have to take the whole cost for the part that’s inside Colombia.
We agree to pay 50% of the cost for the pipeline inside Chile, from the border of Peru and 800 km south. Then, for the part that goes from the coast of Chile and over the Andes into Argentina, we will pay 90% of the cost. If you want to extend the pipeline more in Chile you have to take the whole cost for the extended part.

We thank you for your offer about importing coffee from Colombia, we agree to that. But we must say no thanks to your offer about fruits – we have a large production of fruits in Argentina.

Sincerely,
Anders Bergdal, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Dear Sirs:

We are interested in fruit, coffee and oil, let's all figure this out. In Australia we produce for export:

125 metric tons non-monetary quality (i.e. industrial quality) gold/year
300,000 metric tons raw coal/year
215 metric tons iron/year
13,364 metric tons lamb/sheep meat/year
579,000 metric tons beef/year
88,000 metric tons raw fine glass quality silica/year
38 metric tons reactor grade uranium/year

OOC: These figures are relatively accurate and were cobbled together from various web sites on 2000-2003 Australian economy statistics.

Greetings, S.H.I.T. members.

I would like to make inquires into participating in this trade treaty, as I control the majority of Central America (Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize).

My other posssessions are in the North Hemisphere, but I might be gaining African lands soon.

I fully understand if you choose to deny me entry into the S.H.I.T. organization. I was interested in joining to help increase trade in Sharina.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

Greetings, S.H.I.T. members.

I would like to make inquires into participating in this trade treaty, as I control the majority of Central America (Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize).

My other posssessions are in the North Hemisphere, but I might be gaining African lands soon.

I fully understand if you choose to deny me entry into the S.H.I.T. organization. I was interested in joining to help increase trade in Sharina.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek


Dear President Veristek:

I have no doubt we would welcome you to join us. I for one cast my vote in your favor. Members, what say you?

His Royal Highness,
King 'Lude Valeeum Narcosis
Mauiwowee

Greetings, S.H.I.T. members.

I would like to make inquires into participating in this trade treaty, as I control the majority of Central America (Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize).

I think that Sharina should be very welcome into S.H.I.T.

We would welcome Sharina into S.H.I.T. as well. Let's talk trade.

You're in Sharina, Dyethylamide went for you to (see his post in the Incident's thread)

Greetings, fellow S.H.I.T. members.

I am greatly heartened to hear the news of Sharina's acceptance into this prestigious trade organization. I truly hope that my people will be able to grow closer to all of your people. After all, the only way to truly achieve peace is to have solidarity with each other.

I am prepared to open Sharina's markets to every S.H.I.T. member, as per the charter. Sharina has a considerable inventory of goods for trade, as my nation is rich in natural resources.

Here is a list of the commodities Sharina would be able to export / trade in mass quanities:

Raw resources:

1. Iron
2. Tungsten
3. Copper
4. Zinc
5. Nickel
6. Magnesium
7. Coal
8. Oil
9. Natural Gas
10. Timber

Manufactured Goods:

1. Computers
2. Steel
3. Railroad material
4. Railroad locomotives and carriages
5. Electronics
6. Furniture
7. Beef based foodstuffs
8. Paper
9. Lumber
10. Construction machinery

Sharina's import needs:

1. Automobiles
2. Textiles
3. Medical equipment
4. Wines
5. Rubber
6. Medicines

Hopefully our goods and material will strengthen all of us in S.H.I.T. and help improve living standards for all our people. My ear is open to any and all offers, opinions, and feedback from all of you fellow S.H.I.T. members.

May this day long be remembered by all our people!

Live well and prosper,
President Rand Veristek

Greetings, fellow S.H.I.T. members.

I am greatly heartened to hear the news of Sharina's acceptance into this prestigious trade organization. I truly hope that my people will be able to grow closer to all of your people. After all, the only way to truly achieve peace is to have solidarity with each other.

I am prepared to open Sharina's markets to every S.H.I.T. member, as per the charter. Sharina has a considerable inventory of goods for trade, as my nation is rich in natural resources.

Here is a list of the commodities Sharina would be able to export / trade in mass quanities:

Raw resources:

1. Iron
2. Tungsten
3. Copper
4. Zinc
5. Nickel
6. Magnesium
7. Coal
8. Oil
9. Natural Gas
10. Timber

Manufactured Goods:

1. Computers
2. Steel
3. Railroad material
4. Railroad locomotives and carriages
5. Electronics
6. Furniture
7. Beef based foodstuffs
8. Paper
9. Lumber
10. Construction machinery

Sharina's import needs:

1. Automobiles
2. Textiles
3. Medical equipment
4. Wines
5. Rubber
6. Medicines

Hopefully our goods and material will strengthen all of us in S.H.I.T. and help improve living standards for all our people. My ear is open to any and all offers, opinions, and feedback from all of you fellow S.H.I.T. members.

May this day long be remembered by all our people!

Live well and prosper,
President Rand Veristek

Dear Sirs:
We are interested in a deal by which we would export to you rubber, automobiles, wine and raw medicinal quality materials for compounding in your country in return for railroad tracks, ties, cars, engines, etc. and sophisticated computer and electronic devices. Could you please give us some more detail on your available export capabilities as I gather the figures on our exact export capabilities?

Thanks,
S.H.I.T. Master,
Lian Li
by appointment to Lord Dallas Houston

Hail members of S.H.I.T. The Holy Empire of JeetKuneDo is interested in joining this trade treaty.

Territories owned are Hong Kong, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia.

Have a nice day,
Emperor Briones.

Hail members of S.H.I.T. The Holy Empire of JeetKuneDo is interested in joining this trade treaty.

Territories owned are Hong Kong, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia.

Have a nice day,
Emperor Briones.

I'm adding you to the list since I"m sure no one will object. Welcome to SHIT, our HQ is in Rio, in Brazil.

Dear Sirs:
We are interested in a deal by which we would export to you rubber, automobiles, wine and raw medicinal quality materials for compounding in your country in return for railroad tracks, ties, cars, engines, etc. and sophisticated computer and electronic devices. Could you please give us some more detail on your available export capabilities as I gather the figures on our exact export capabilities?

Thanks,
S.H.I.T. Master,
Lian Li
by appointment to Lord Dallas Houston

Greetings, Lian Li.

I will personally oversee the gathering of Sharina's export capabilities, and I shall present that information to you within a few days.

However, I'd like to let you know Sharina's rough capability. It produces a surplus of approximately 50,000 tons of timber, iron, and steel. This is factored in after the allocation of resources to the ongoing Veris-Wall Project.

More details will be provided in my next comminque as I need to collect information and try to work out a viable network to supply you with your requests.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

Greetings,

We, the Peoples Republic of Warta Endor would like to join S.H.I.T. The territory I own is Malaysia, Brunei, Southern Indonesia, Chagos Islands, Solomon Islands and almost Papua New Guinea (where currently a military campaign is almost finished). Major export products are

Oil
Gas
High Tech (computers, chips)
Clothing, cotton and silk
Tropical Fruit
Wood
Nikkel (don't know the English name, its a metal)
Bauxite
small amounts of gold and precious stones
Spices

more details will come later.

Greetings,

We, the Peoples Republic of Warta Endor would like to join S.H.I.T. The territory I own is Malaysia, Brunei, Southern Indonesia, Chagos Islands, Solomon Islands and almost Papua New Guinea (where currently a military campaign is almost finished). Major export products are

Oil
Gas
High Tech (computers, chips)
Clothing, cotton and silk
Tropical Fruit
Wood
Nikkel (don't know the English name, its a metal)
Bauxite
small amounts of gold and precious stones
Spices

more details will come later.

Thanks, you name has been added to the list. Please appoint a representative to S.H.I.T. and send them to our H.Q. in Rio, Brazil, where a welcome party for you, Sharina and JeetKuneDo is planned.

ooc. I forgot Singapore

Changi International AirPort, on the steps of a Warta Endor Government Boeing 777, representive Ian Dunross gives a short press conference.

Journalist 1:"What will joining the S.H.I.T. alliance mean for Warta Endor?"
Dunross:"Our econemy will grow now that we have a large number of trading partners."
Journalist 2:"Will this mean the end of socialism in Warta Endor now that it joins a pretty capitalist alliance?"
Dunross:"Offcourse not! But we must be realistic, we cannot survive by following the example of RL former USSR. We need trade to keep our economy healthy. We will keep a socialist policy, Free healthcare, free education and that sort of stuff. Any questions? It is time for me to go."

And so Ian Dunross, Warta Endors representive in the S.H.I.T. council, departs for Rio de Janeiro.

Thank you for letting us join S.H.I.T.

JeetKuneDo has issued it's major exports.

Tin
Tungsten
Timber
Tobacco
Rice
Electronics (including our assortment of video games)
Gemstones and Jewelry
Iron ore
Furniture
Clothing and Garmets
Rubber
Cotton
and Other foods:
sweet potatoes, vegetables, corn, coffee, sugarcane, tea, peanuts, water buffalo, pigs, cattle, poultry, cassava(tapioca), coconuts, and soybeans.

more news soon to come
Steve Chang
Representative for S.H.I.T.

OOC: Members need to check the original post, it has been heavily edited. Those who wish to join, post your info. here.

Thanks.

OOC:

I feel like an idiot as I forgot to add in my S.H.I.T. representative. D'oh!

My delegate will be Jenna Lan'ac, who holds a doctorate in Economics and another doctorate in Supply & Demand. She is a 30 year old woman with a seemingly built in "head-calculator" and photographic memory.

OOC:

I feel like an idiot as I forgot to add in my S.H.I.T. representative. D'oh!

My delegate will be Jenna Lan'ac, who holds a doctorate in Economics and another doctorate in Supply & Demand. She is a 30 year old woman with a seemingly built in "head-calculator" and photographic memory.

Don't sweat it, she has been added. :)

Southern Hemisphere Import Treaty:

We apologize for the delay in initiating actions in this Trade Treaty. The representative on behalf of Fodmodmadtol to S.H.I.T. is Dasani Springs, Department Chair of Trading Bloc Finances of the Ministry of Trade. Please contact her for anything regarding our participation in this Treaty, as she is the one who will be dealing with all Traders. A thourough list of what Fodmodmadtol has to offer will be compiled shortly.

The General Cabinet
Fodmodmadtol

Info updated, let me know if I missed anything and post more here for me to add.

P.S. We need some African Nations and Asian countries, we've got South and Central America sewn up and much of the South Pacific, if we can add some strong asian and african countries we can economically rule Earth V with our combined trading power, become the new OPEC for something, like gold if we could get south africa, etc. What do ya'll think? Should we openly court some african nations? I vote yes.

What do ya'll think? Should we openly court some african nations? I vote yes.
Yes, I think so.

I also noted that you missed two of my nations in the first post. I also control Malta and Algeria (Africa! :) ).

Yes, I think so.

I also noted that you missed two of my nations in the first post. I also control Malta and Algeria (Africa! :) ).

OOps, sorry, updated now though.

Info updated, let me know if I missed anything and post more here for me to add.

P.S. We need some African Nations and Asian countries, we've got South and Central America sewn up and much of the South Pacific, if we can add some strong asian and african countries we can economically rule Earth V with our combined trading power, become the new OPEC for something, like gold if we could get south africa, etc. What do ya'll think? Should we openly court some african nations? I vote yes.

IC:

I second this motion. We do need some partners on other continents with more raw resources and such to trade.

~Jenna Lan'ac

========================

OOC:

I was wondering if my North American territories should be included (Alaska, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Nevada, California, and Arizona)?

Or should we just leave it at Mexico, Belize, and Guatemala?

Info updated, let me know if I missed anything and post more here for me to add.

P.S. We need some African Nations and Asian countries, we've got South and Central America sewn up and much of the South Pacific, if we can add some strong asian and african countries we can economically rule Earth V with our combined trading power, become the new OPEC for something, like gold if we could get south africa, etc. What do ya'll think? Should we openly court some african nations? I vote yes.
My countries are in asia

My countries are in asia

OK, so I wasn't a geography major :)

I was thinking Vietnam, Thailand, Korea, etc. when I posted that. :headbang:

My holdings are in India, Southwest China Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar and Burma so I think I fit the Asian bill pretty well. I'd love to join this alliance.

IC:

I second this motion. We do need some partners on other continents with more raw resources and such to trade.

~Jenna Lan'ac

========================

OOC:

I was wondering if my North American territories should be included (Alaska, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Nevada, California, and Arizona)?

Or should we just leave it at Mexico, Belize, and Guatemala?

They have been added, I think I was waiting for TGSR to recognize all your North American claims when I first created the list.

My holdings are in India, Southwest China Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar and Burma so I think I fit the Asian bill pretty well. I'd love to join this alliance.

Welcome to the club, India, Burma, Bangladesh, awesome. name a S.H.I.T. Head for your country and give us your export/import list. I'm putting you on the list.

Warta Endor can export Nickel (found the English word!) and tropical hard wood.

Ian Dunross, Representive in Rio de Janeiro

The complete (almost, may have forgotten some things) of tradebale goods

Oil
Gas
High Tech (computers, chips)
Clothing, cotton and silk
Tropical Fruit
Tropical Hardwood
Nickel
Bauxite
small amounts of gold and precious stones
Spices
Rubber
Furniture
Bricks (whoa :O)
Magnesium
all kinds of metals
Rice
Cars
meat

Products we would like to import

Date (ohhh, I love the fruit!)
Chocolate!
Coconuts
Toys (santa's coming...to town)
Transport systems
Vegetables
Weopons (if it isn't prohibited)

JeetKuneDo has issued its major imports(as of now, probably more to come later just as soon I have time and when i think of more stuff):

Western foods (fruits like oranges, vegetables etc.)
Oil
Some Silver
Some Steel
Some Coal
Nickel

And we encourage tourism. Tourists will fly into Hong Kong, and if they wish to visit other countries, they will take a boat, then a train and/or car. Airports in other countries may be made within the next year or two.

Steve Chang
Representative for S.H.I.T.

Updated, let me know if I missed anything.

JeetKuneDo has issued its major imports(as of now, probably more to come later just as soon I have time and when i think of more stuff):

Western foods (fruits like oranges, vegetables etc.)
Oil
Some Silver
Some Steel
Some Coal
Nickel

And we encourage tourism. Tourists will fly into Hong Kong, and if they wish to visit other countries, they will take a boat, then a train and/or car. Airports in other countries may be made within the next year or two.

Steve Chang
Representative for S.H.I.T.

Is it possible for Tourist to travel via Singapore/Malaysia as it is near your other territories? (Thailand, Cambodia and Laos) It would benefit both our nations. We have Nickel (I believe Indonesia mines some 132 tons a year) that we can export.

Ian Dunross
S.H.I.T. representive

Is it possible for Tourist to travel via Singapore/Malaysia as it is near your other territories? (Thailand, Cambodia and Laos) It would benefit both our nations. We have Nickel (I believe Indonesia mines some 132 tons a year) that we can export.

Ian Dunross
S.H.I.T. representive
Yea sure, we can provide naval roots to Singapore and Malaysia. Maybe later we can connect our railroad tracks to the capital of Malysia. We can provide coconuts, vegetables, or toys in return for nickel imports.

Steve Chang,
Representative for S.H.I.T

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Good day to S.H.I.T. representatives. A list of Exports, Cash Crops, Desired Imports, and the like has been compiled of the Southern Districts. Listed as following are what the Southern Districts have to offer. Fields can be considered specific for the fact we would deal in the following, and the following only.

Offered Exports:

Cash Crops-
Coffee
Cocoa
Tobacco
Sugarcane
Cotton
Sesame
Sunflower
Cocaine

Almost the entirety of arable land in our Southern Expanse is dedicated to the Agricultural needs of us and others. Through deals which have been arranged previously certain lands are set aside for use of specific crops foreign to our soil.

Power Needs-
Crude Oil
Refined Oil
Natural Gas
Liquefied Natural Gas
Coal
Hydroelectric
Thermoelectric

Power needs are transferred primarily, or are projected to, with neighbors which are contiguous to our borders. However, Oils, Coals, and Gasses can be traded far more openly. Most rigs are set offshore or on the coastline.

Animal Stock-
Poultry
Fish
Lamb

While limited in our range of livestock, what we have is of high quality. Promised to never be enhanced synthetically or artificially our livestock is of wholesome lineage. Clean animal foods are what our stock promises.

As of now this is what we have compiled as our available exports, although this composition will surely be augmented in the future.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

ooc. Damn! made a mistake

Warta Endor apologizes for a stupid mistake. (I found some Indonesian mining stats) Its Indonesian territories mine 200000 tons a year of copper and 69000 tonnes of nickel. Warta Endor also accepts vegetables and toys in return for Nickel we export to JeetKuneDo. Also engineers are making plans connecting Kuala Lumpoer to Bangkok with a High Speed track. Also Warta Endor is willing to export Natural Gas to Fodmadmantol.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. Representive

ps. is anyone interested in joining a space program I started?

Some updates done, more later, mainly Fod's stuff. Kopparbergs and Wirraway need to post some stuff. :)

Warta Endors total Natural Gas production is 70 Billion cubic meters, 45 billion cubic meters is for the export.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

The JKD-WE railroad is almost complete. Our railroad workers have built extended the railroad to the Malaysian border. We are currently waiting Warta Endor's response as where they want to connect our railroads. With the completion of this railroad, we are expecting a good economy increase between our two nations.

Steve Chang,
Represantative of S.H.I.T.

The JKD-WE railroad is almost complete. Our railroad workers have built extended the railroad to the Malaysian border. We are currently waiting Warta Endor's response as where they want to connect our railroads. With the completion of this railroad, we are expecting a good economy increase between our two nations.

Steve Chang,
Represantative of S.H.I.T.

Our part of the railroad will be ready in one NS year. (tommorow)

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T representive

Info updated, let me know if I missed anything and post more here for me to add.

P.S. We need some African Nations and Asian countries, we've got South and Central America sewn up and much of the South Pacific, if we can add some strong asian and african countries we can economically rule Earth V with our combined trading power, become the new OPEC for something, like gold if we could get south africa, etc. What do ya'll think? Should we openly court some african nations? I vote yes.
Afircian nations you say? I would like to join this S.H.I.T. economic alliance! I own Zimbabwe and am about to conquer Zambia. I also own Slovinia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Montenegro. Can my northern hemmisphere countries participate in this trading cricle? I hope you will consider allowing me to join this alliance!

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

We're going to to clarify that products listed under the category "Power Needs" are not our Imports. They are our Exports to handle the Traders Power Needs. As I said, our last Invoice was only an Inventory on our Exports, not Imports. Correct that detail in the S.H.I.T listings.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

***Government Bulletin***

The railway is complete! Both the high speed passenger rail as the freight rail are ready. The first trains are sceduled to depart tomorrow from Singapore. Economist believe this and the returning of a large part of the labouring force which were drafted will have a stimulating effect on the economy.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

We're going to to clarify that products listed under the category "Power Needs" are not our Imports. They are our Exports to handle the Traders Power Needs. As I said, our last Invoice was only an Inventory on our Exports, not Imports. Correct that detail in the S.H.I.T listings.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Updated, sorry, I misread the invoice.

Afircian nations you say? I would like to join this S.H.I.T. economic alliance! I own Zimbabwe and am about to conquer Zambia. I also own Slovinia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Montenegro. Can my northern hemmisphere countries participate in this trading cricle? I hope you will consider allowing me to join this alliance!

Fellow Members, I put it to you, for a vote, do we allow Vineyard in? I say OK. What say you?

Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Head,
Mauiwowee

Oh, and Vineyard, as long as you have countries in the Southern Hemisphere, then countries you own in the north would be permitted to participate as well.

Fellow Members, I put it to you, for a vote, do we allow Vineyard in? I say OK. What say you?

Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Head,
Mauiwowee

Oh, and Vineyard, as long as you have countries in the Southern Hemisphere, then countries you own in the north would be permitted to participate as well.
Good, good! A vote? Why?

Fellow Members, I put it to you, for a vote, do we allow Vineyard in? I say OK. What say you?

I cannot take this decision alone, I must ask my goverment about this issue. The country of Vineyard is on the Yellow list at the Kopparbergs Intelligence Service - meaning that the country has or are breaking humanitary rights. I'll ask you for more time on this issue.

Anders Bergdahl
Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Good, good! A vote? Why?

OOC: That's a standard procedure when a new nation wants to participate in S.H.I.T. Nothing special with you. :)

I cannot take this decision alone, I must ask my goverment about this issue. The country of Vineyard is on the Yellow list at the Kopparbergs Intelligence Service - meaning that the country has or are breaking humanitary rights. I'll ask you for more time on this issue.

Anders Bergdahl
Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs
Hmm a vote? JeetKuneDo and Vineyard already have private trading routes. I don't see much of a reason why he shouldn't join. I am not sure if it would be in the best interests of other nations of S.H.I.T. I propose a one real life week trial basis, to see if he may be allowed to join us.

Steve Chang,
Representative of S.H.I.T.

Good, good! A vote? Why?

Dear Sirs:

As the Chairperson of S.H.I.T. and in reply to your question, I have put the issue to a vote because 1) it is a generally accepted procedure, one I'll concede has not been followed in all cases, but one that is important to your application because 2) You have recently been involved in serious and intense conflict in Europe and the possibility of significant conflict in Africa exists. You will note that I have, on behalf of Mauiwowee, voted in favor of your application. However, your "expansionist policy" (and the chair uses the term loosely) might be a cause of concern to other S.H.I.T. members, so I wanted to ensure that your joining S.H.I.T. would not present a problem to the other nations. Nothing personal, merely an effort to ensure that goodwill continues to reign in the S.H.I.T. community.

Respectfully,
Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Head,
Mauiwowee

Dear Sirs:

As the Chairperson of S.H.I.T. and in reply to your question, I have put the issue to a vote because 1) it is a generally accepted procedure, one I'll concede has not been followed in all cases, but one that is important to your application because 2) You have recently been involved in serious and intense conflict in Europe and the possibility of significant conflict in Africa exists. You will note that I have, on behalf of Mauiwowee, voted in favor of your application. However, your "expansionist policy" (and the chair uses the term loosely) might be a cause of concern to other S.H.I.T. members, so I wanted to ensure that your joining S.H.I.T. would not present a problem to the other nations. Nothing personal, merely an effort to ensure that goodwill continues to reign in the S.H.I.T. community.

Respectfully,
Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Head,
Mauiwowee
I see... let me inform all of you that the nations of Bedou and Vineyard are entering the finial phases of a diplomatic proposal. No other information will be provided.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

If Politics become involved in Trade, let it be known we will slaughter if not wipe off the face of The Earth any who bring to this simple Trade Pact a War.

With Utmost Sincerity,
Dasani Springs

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Sorry for the delay, out S.H.I.T representative will be Peter Vandermeek. Imports and Exports coming soon.

I see... let me inform all of you that the nations of Bedou and Vineyard are entering the finial phases of a diplomatic proposal. No other information will be provided.

The chair hopes that this is not intended as any sort of a threat against the member nations of S.H.I.T.

Warta Endor thinks it is a good thing if Vineyard enter S.H.I.T. There is no reason we really should worry about a war in Africa, ( this is from a S.H.I.T. point of view, personally I am worried since we have territories in Africa) it would only affect us if tradroutes/ships of any of us are attacked. But if anything will happen in Africa we must ensure that our trade interests are not damaged.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

It seems that all other members votes yes in the Vineyard-vote.

However, after holding a conference in Kopparbergs Quito we have come to the decision to not vote for Vineyard into S.H.I.T.

If all other member nations votes yes we will accept the result, but we will not actively open trade routes with Vineyard - at least not today or tomorrow.

Regarding the situation in Africa, one and another nation has claimed to have the right to close the strait of Gibraltar, or at least to tax all ships passing thru. That will definitely harm the trade routs with Northern Africa and the Mediterranean region.

Anders Bergdahl
Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We vote against Vineyard's joining. If they join we will be forced to resign.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Our vote for Vineyard joining the Southern H.I.T. is also Nay. However, we would like to point out to Kopparsburg that refusing trade with any member of S.H.I.T. is a direct violation with S.H.I.T. policiy. If one Signatory member is to deny open and free trade with any other Member, than the purpose of this Pact is null and void. It's a blatant contradiction of the Pact.

To avoid things like that, though, is why we have voting. All smiles.

We vote Nay.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Fellow members of S.H.I.T.

We authorized Dyethylamide to vote Yay on behalf of our democratic Duchy in the belief that it would benefit this alliance. We abhor the interjection of politics into this economic agreement, but recognize the issues involved. Wirraway has been our ally for a number of years and we greatly respect Kopparbergs work. It is therefore, with great sorrow, but a feeling that our alliance will benefit in the long run, that I change the vote on the membership of Vineyards to that of "NO."

Sincrerely,
Ms. Bhatone Rouge',
S.H.I.T. Ambassador


P.S. we do wish to make it clear that Dyethylamide's early vote on our behalf was authrorized. It is events since that vote and our return from vacation that has resulted in the above change in our position.

Votes on Vineyard

Mauiwowee - Y
Norleans - N
Dyethylamide - Y
Kopparbergs - N
Fodmodmadtol - N
Texarkania - N
Sharina
JeetKuneDo - Y (on a trial basis)
Warta Endor - Y
Wirraway - N

4 to 4 against and in favor. Texarkania and ShArina, we need your votes. This is our first true problem in S.H.I.T.

Edit: 5 to 4, Texarkania has voted 'No' see post below, Vineyard will not be admitted.

Votes on Vineyard

Mauiwowee - Y
Norleans - N
Dyethylamide - Y
Kopparbergs - N
Fodmodmadtol - N
Texarkania
Sharina
JeetKuneDo - Y (on a trial basis)
Warta Endor - Y
Wirraway - N

4 to 4 against and in favor. Texarkania and ShArina, we need your votes. This is our first true problem in S.H.I.T.

:D lol

I think it is good we all have a say. I also have a question: can a nation be kicked out of the alliance because of actions taken in Earth V? (I know you can be kicked out if you attack a S.H.I.T. nation)

As war is most likely on the horizon between Vineyard and my nation in the future it would not be a good move to join into an alliance with him. Basically it's either Vineyard or me. If you vote yes then I go and Vineyard is in, If you vote no I stay.

In the Capital Building in Santiago, Chile'

"Sir, Vineyard has significant holdings and access to resources and manufacturing capabilities that will benefit the S.H.I.T. alliance."

"I understand that Mr. Li, and as co-S.H.I.T. representative with Mr. Hevaria your view has been considered." Said Lord Lopez, ruler of Texarkania.

"They may have significant holdings" interjected Geraldo Hevaria "but they are war mongers. Wirraway has stated he will withdraw from S.H.I.T. if they are admitted. Furthermore, it appears that a war between Vineyard and Wirraway is an inevitability in the near future. We can't have S.H.I.T. members warring with each other."

"I agree Mr. Hevaria." Said Lord Lopez "Mr. Li, your objections are noted, but I must do what I feel is best for this country. Our membership in S.H.I.T. is important to trade and political relationships. S.H.I.T. members abilities to get along and continue their relationship will not suffer if Vineyard is excluded. On the other hand it is clear that Vineyard's participation in the alliance will have a devisive effect. We will therefore vote "No" on the question Vineyard's admission to S.H.I.T. Go do your jobs.

::: Telegram to Breega Bardoe, S.H.I.T. Chairperson :::

Ms. Bardoe:

After careful and analysis and debate, the country of Texarkania votes to reject Vineyard's application for membership in S.H.I.T.

Sincerely,
Geraldo Hevaria,
Co-S.H.I.T. Master,
Texarkania

::: Official Memo :::

TO: S.H.I.T. Members
FROM: Breega Bardoe, S.H.I.T. Chairperson
RE: Vineyard Application for S.H.I.T. Membership
DATE: Today
-----------------------
Fellow S.H.I.T. members. As it stands now, the vote is 5 to 4 to reject Vineyard's application for S.H.I.T. Membership. Sharina has not voted, but even if Sharina were to vote in favor of Vineyard, the vote would be a tie, 5 to 5. A tie is not a majority and obviously, in any situation, a majority must favor an action or it cannot be taken. I have therefore communicated to Vineyard that their application for membership in S.H.I.T. has been rejected. A copy of the telegram sent is attached to this memo. Thank you for your reasoned participation in the process. S.H.I.T. has overcome its first test of unity.

/s/ Breega Bardoe, S.H.I.T. Chairperson

***********************************************

::: Telegram :::

To: Vineyard
From: S.H.I.T. Chair, Breega Bardoe

Dear Sirs:

I regret to inform you that your application to join S.H.I.T. has been rejected. Specifically, a majority in favor of your application was not obtained in a vote of the current membership. The Chair wishes to thank you for your interest in S.H.I.T. and regrets this decision, but is bound to adhere to the will of the membership.

Sincerely,
Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Chairperson

Warta Endor accepts the rejection of Vineyard. We hope this won't have any concequenses for relations in Earth V.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

Warta Endor accepts the rejection of Vineyard. We hope this won't have any concequenses for relations in Earth V.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

The chair doesn't see that it should unless it is taken personally by Vineyard as a sort of "slap in the face" rather than as a reasoned political decision based on the democratic principles inherent in a voting membership. You and any country who voted in favor of Vineyard are still free to pursue your own separate relationship with Vineyard outside of S.H.I.T. as well.

Breega Bardoe

OOC:

I was away, dealing with a lot of RL stuff, so I'm finally able to post here in NS after a week.

I would have voted "nay" to Vineyard at any rate. I feel that he would only bring chaos and problems to S.H.I.T. most notably the Kopparbergs - Vineyard and Wirraray - Vineyard issues. It would shatter S.H.I.T. if Vineyard was actually accepted.

Goodbye Dyethylamide - We hardly knew you! :)

Goodbye Dyethylamide - We hardly knew you! :)

Sorry to see ya go, Dyethylamide.

What should we do to secure S.H.I.T. and hopefully recruit new members (except Vineyard)?

Sorry to see ya go, Dyethylamide.

What should we do to secure S.H.I.T. and hopefully recruit new members (except Vineyard)?

What do you mean by "secure" S.H.I.T.? to recruit I guess we just "advertise."

What do you mean by "secure" S.H.I.T.? to recruit I guess we just "advertise."

Sorry about the vagueness of that.

What I meant was that we need to find a way to solidify S.H.I.T. so not to let it fall apart or something.

OOC: Wait, wait, wait, hold up a minuet. So it has been revealed that this whole "puppet thing" is causing a lot of Strife, right? Well, i believe Tex... whatever and norleans are puppets and their vote shouldn't be counted. Also with the loss od Dyt... something that would even out my vote i think. Shrina would vote against me (no idea why though) and as would koppersbergs... who by the way pretends i don't exist so whats he voting for now?
IC: I request a recount. I also, as of late, control a large quantity of the worlds oil, and having me on bord would assure your having some of it!

I might be able to ask ztw to join as he owns parts of Africa.

Official Statement from Fodmodmadtol:

Someone is closer than a Diatomic to being invaded. Vineyard, on behalf of the Southern H.I.T., I kindly ask of you to pick yourself off of our door mat. If a recount is considered by the Southern H.I.T. Chair, we will state now that our vote is still, and will be ever in regards to Vineyard, Nay.

The General Cabinet
Fodmodmadtol

Mauiwowee - Y
Norleans - N
Kopparbergs - N
Fodmodmadtol - N
Sharina - N
JeetKuneDo - Y (on a trial basis)
Warta Endor - Y
Wirraway - N

MEMO
TO: S.H.I.T. Members
FROM: The Chair
RE: Vineyard's request for a recount
Date: Today

As you are all aware S.H.I.T. recently lost the member nations of Dyethylamide and Texarkania. As a result of that loss, so soon after a vote, Vineyard requested a recount. The results of the recount are above.
The vote stands at 5 to 3 against admission, Vineyard is still ineligible for admission. A he is being notified via telegram.

Furthermore, the chair moves that an amendment to the Rules be adopted by the members. Specifically being that "A country denied admission into S.H.I.T. on initial application shall not be eligible to re-apply for admission for a minimum of one year."

OOC: As time is fluid in NS, that would be one fluid, S.H.I.T. year which I figure about to be about 30 - 60 days RL. Your thoughts?

The chair requests a discussion and vote on the proposal or if no discussion a second to the motion and a vote.

Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Chairperson

P.S. Please be advised that our recent assumption of control over Brazil will not change our committment to this alliance and we will maintain the headquarters in Rio unless anyone objects. It seems to us to be a good, central location for all the nations involved.

Edit OOC: Since this is an economic, not military, alliance; despite the puppet rules for warfare, I say that S.H.I.T. members and their puppets get equal rights and votes here - is there an objection by anyone? Yes, I realize that gives me via Mauiwowee and Norleans 2 votes, but if you'll note, they voted against each other on the issue of Vineyard and I have always been careful, even before Earth V came about to make sure that they were RP'd with 2 very different styles and personalities (I'm schizo - I can talk to myself very well :p )

I might be able to ask ztw to join as he owns parts of Africa.

What say the members? The chair is barely familar with ZTW

Furthermore, the chair moves that an amendment to the Rules be adopted by the members. Specifically being that "A country denied admission into S.H.I.T. on initial application shall not be eligible to re-apply for admission for a minimum of one year."

OOC: As time is fluid in NS, that would be one fluid, S.H.I.T. year which I figure about to be about 30 - 60 days RL. Your thoughts?

The chair requests a discussion and vote on the proposal or if no discussion a second to the motion and a vote.

Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Chairperson
I think this is a good idea. And I think that we can apply the 30 day-rule before you are allowed to re-apply. I you get a NO the second time to, then you're not allowed to re-apply again for three NS-years.


P.S. Please be advised that our recent assumption of control over Brazil will not change our committment to this alliance and we will maintain the headquarters in Rio unless anyone objects. It seems to us to be a good, central location for all the nations involved.
We agree to that. Rio is a good place for our HQ.

Edit OOC: Since this is an economic, not military, alliance; despite the puppet rules for warfare, I say that S.H.I.T. members and their puppets get equal rights and votes here - is there an objection by anyone?
OOC: We agree to that to. Norleans is a member as well as Mauiwowee, and you have one vote/member.

I like it, anyone else?

Ooc: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4079505.stm

Ooc: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4079505.stm

LOL:D

Just something different. Vineyard claims the oil prices are "skyrocketing" because he "owns 25 % of the worlds oil capacity", shouldn't we do something about it as a economic alliance? And he won't export it to other countries. I think this is a pathetic reaction to the denial of entrance in S.H.I.T. (anyway, I think he owns too much land for an october nation, check what he claims)

LOL:D

Just something different. Vineyard claims the oil prices are "skyrocketing" because he "owns 25 % of the worlds oil capacity", shouldn't we do something about it as a economic alliance? And he won't export it to other countries. I think this is a pathetic reaction to the denial of entrance in S.H.I.T. (anyway, I think he owns too much land for an october nation, check what he claims)

I would think we own a significant amount of oil as well between us. I've got the gulf of Mexico (well, all but Louisisana's and Texas' part). We've got South and part of Central America and Indonesia has some oil too. Let's start selling it and undercut Vineyard's claims. I agree also he has too much land, I'm going to help Karond Kar take some of it away hopefully.

PS the link was great! :)

I would think we own a significant amount of oil as well between us. I've got the gulf of Mexico (well, all but Louisisana's and Texas' part). We've got South and part of Central America and Indonesia has some oil too. Let's start selling it and undercut Vineyard's claims. I agree also he has too much land, I'm going to help Karond Kar take some of it away hopefully.

PS the link was great! :)
OOC: I am afraid you can't do that. Predjucing against me because of this too much land isn't an excuse, as a matter of fact, the majority of Earth V is pro unlimited land.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Vineyard does not control a quarter of the world's oil resources. Period. It does not matter what Vineyard claims the prices are. Period. Actual prices and profit can vary greatly from what is on paper. Parmalat (http://www.time.com/time/globalbusiness/article/0,9171,1101041213-880285-1,00.html).

Enough about Vineyard.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Mauiwowee - Y
Norleans - N
Kopparbergs - N
Fodmodmadtol - N
Sharina - N
JeetKuneDo - Y (on a trial basis)
Warta Endor - Y
Wirraway - N

MEMO
TO: S.H.I.T. Members
FROM: The Chair
RE: Vineyard's request for a recount
Date: Today

As you are all aware S.H.I.T. recently lost the member nations of Dyethylamide and Texarkania. As a result of that loss, so soon after a vote, Vineyard requested a recount. The results of the recount are above.
The vote stands at 5 to 3 against admission, Vineyard is still ineligible for admission. A he is being notified via telegram.

Furthermore, the chair moves that an amendment to the Rules be adopted by the members. Specifically being that "A country denied admission into S.H.I.T. on initial application shall not be eligible to re-apply for admission for a minimum of one year."

OOC: As time is fluid in NS, that would be one fluid, S.H.I.T. year which I figure about to be about 30 - 60 days RL. Your thoughts?

The chair requests a discussion and vote on the proposal or if no discussion a second to the motion and a vote.

Breega Bardoe,
S.H.I.T. Chairperson

P.S. Please be advised that our recent assumption of control over Brazil will not change our committment to this alliance and we will maintain the headquarters in Rio unless anyone objects. It seems to us to be a good, central location for all the nations involved.

Edit OOC: Since this is an economic, not military, alliance; despite the puppet rules for warfare, I say that S.H.I.T. members and their puppets get equal rights and votes here - is there an objection by anyone? Yes, I realize that gives me via Mauiwowee and Norleans 2 votes, but if you'll note, they voted against each other on the issue of Vineyard and I have always been careful, even before Earth V came about to make sure that they were RP'd with 2 very different styles and personalities (I'm schizo - I can talk to myself very well :p )


Transmission to S.H.I.T. Headquarters.

I support this amendment, as it will preserve the integrity of S.H.I.T.

In addition, I am prepared to bring the matter of the oil market to the Technocracy Council of Sharina. We do control considerable oil reserves in Alaska and we have been looking into potential oil reserves off the coast of California. I do not have the exact figures yet, but I will provide them as they become available.

Live well and prosper,

Jenna Lan'ac
Sharina S.H.I.T. Representative

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Trading Routes. Lots of them. All ports of the Southern Federal Districts have charted out Sea Routes to the Northern Districts. Internationally speaking, this will allow all S. H. I. T. members a stop off point in the Caribbean before a long trip up North. Whomever decides to make a trip up North that is, where Tax is... Existent.

Now for S. H. I. T., The option of registering in the Montelukast Bloc Trader Route. It will open up the Eastern Seaboard of North America, the Crsyindom River Valley, and The Great Lake Regions to your Exports. All to your benefit, at the expense of others. South American goods are in high demand everywhere, and this can extend to where you can Export; Unscathed financially. A Chart of Montelukast Bloc International Routes will be published in Interest. The Montelukast Bloc, the Allied Trade of Montelukast, had been closed off ever since signing of the pact. It is now open for S. H. I. T. members by default.

An Example. Mauiwowee wishes to sell goods in The Great Lakes Region. In which, say Mauiwoweean Goods are shipped from Mauiwowee to Fodmodmadtol South America on Mauiwoweean Vessels. From which, Mauiwoweean Goods are shipped to Fodmodmadtol North America on Fodmodmadtol Vessels. In Fodmodmadtol North America, Mauiwoweean Goods will be shipped on Crsyindom Vessels to Crsyindom, sold by Crsyindom Vendors to Assorted Buyers in that Region. All profit though, will go to Mauiwowee. All of it.

The ATM is something we will place out here as an option for S. H. I. T. members with Export Interests elsewhere. Originally it was created as a Communal Trade Treaty by Socialist and Communist Nations, so it's understandable if any are reluctant. Just another option open to S. H. I. T. members exclusively as of now.

Allied Trade of Montelukast [ ATM ] (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Allied_Trade_of_Montelukast)

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Trading Routes. Lots of them. All ports of the Southern Federal Districts have charted out Sea Routes to the Northern Districts. Internationally speaking, this will allow all S. H. I. T. members a stop off point in the Caribbean before a long trip up North. Whomever decides to make a trip up North that is, where Tax is... Existent.

Now for S. H. I. T., The option of registering in the Montelukast Bloc Trader Route. It will open up the Eastern Seaboard of North America, the Crsyindom River Valley, and The Great Lake Regions to your Exports. All to your benefit, at the expense of others. South American goods are in high demand everywhere, and this can extend to where you can Export; Unscathed financially. A Chart of Montelukast Bloc International Routes will be published in Interest. The Montelukast Bloc, the Allied Trade of Montelukast, had been closed off ever since signing of the pact. It is now open for S. H. I. T. members by default.

An Example. Mauiwowee wishes to sell goods in The Great Lakes Region. In which, say Mauiwoweean Goods are shipped from Mauiwowee to Fodmodmadtol South America on Mauiwoweean Vessels. From which, Mauiwoweean Goods are shipped to Fodmodmadtol North America on Fodmodmadtol Vessels. In Fodmodmadtol North America, Mauiwoweean Goods will be shipped on Crsyindom Vessels to Crsyindom, sold by Crsyindom Vendors to Assorted Buyers in that Region. All profit though, will go to Mauiwowee. All of it.

The ATM is something we will place out here as an option for S. H. I. T. members with Export Interests elsewhere. Originally it was created as a Communal Trade Treaty by Socialist and Communist Nations, so it's understandable if any are reluctant. Just another option open to S. H. I. T. members exclusively as of now.

Allied Trade of Montelukast [ ATM ] (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Allied_Trade_of_Montelukast)

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

The chair wishes to thank Fodmodmadtol for this opportunity and highly reccomends that S.H.I.T. members make use of it and appoint Fodmodmadtol to administer a committee of S.H.I.T. to oversee this operation and trade agreement. Any comments?

The Chair also wishes to note that our S.H.I.T. member Norleans, now controls Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Louisiana, Kansas, Nebraska and New Mexico. Between Norleans in the southern half of North America and Sharina in Mexico, California and Alaska, we will control the oil and natural gas flow in the western hemisphere and the entire Gulf of Mexico. Furthermore, it would appear that Sharina is set to expand his claims in North America and we should support him in that expansionist effort as well due to the abundance of minerals and precious metals he will have control of in the western states of North America.

OOC: Check the Earth V master thread, Wolf America and his buddies have gone away and given up their land in North America to Norleans who wants to discuss some joint control possibilities with Sharina over some of the western states.

Finally, the chair wishes to note that the one year/three year rule on application for membership has passed and been added to the bylaws.

The chair would like to nominate Beltina, owner of New Zealand, for membership in S.H.I.T.

][ And is Beltina a puppet? ][

The chair would like to nominate Beltina, owner of New Zealand, for membership in S.H.I.T.
We totally agree to that! Let Beltina into the S.H.I.T.

][ And is Beltina a puppet? ][

OOC: I don't know the answer to this though I have never had a reason so suspect it. Do you think he is? Why? whose puppet? If puppets are an issue in S.H.I.T. we might need to talk since S.H.I.T. is an economic, not military alliance.

I vote yea in favor of Beltina joining S.H.I.T.

Beltina seems lkike a reasonable player both IC and OOC, and S.H.I.T. needs some expansion after the loss of several members.

[ I meant of yours. Obviously then, Beltina is not...! Our vote is Yea. ]

We vote yes.

Vote Yes

It'd be cool if we could get a map that higlighted nations part of S.H.I.T.

It'd be cool if we could get a map that higlighted nations part of S.H.I.T.

Good idea, I'll see what I or Mauiwowee can whip up. BTW, I'm posting this in the incidents thread, but I'm closing the Gulf of Mexico to all ships except those of S.H.I.T. members. Sharina, won't you join me in this?

Good idea, I'll see what I or Mauiwowee can whip up. BTW, I'm posting this in the incidents thread, but I'm closing the Gulf of Mexico to all ships except those of S.H.I.T. members. Sharina, won't you join me in this?
Cool, or Kopparsburg the mapmaker.

"We would like to purchase one of Mauiwowee's new 2005 Rush automobile. This will be a gift to the Emperor whose birthday is Sunday, December 19. Actually, make that 7 cars. One for each paint color. He could pick the ones he wants and give the others to family members as gifts for the upcomming Christmas. I believe you can choose what would be good for the interior color. We would like them to be delivered to Bagkok in Thailand asap. Thank you in advanced."

Steve Chang,
Represntative of S.H.I.T.

Cool, or Kopparsburg the mapmaker.

"We would like to purchase one of Mauiwowee's new 2005 Rush automobile. This will be a gift to the Emperor whose birthday is Sunday, December 19. Actually, make that 7 cars. One for each paint color. He could pick the ones he wants and give the others to family members as gifts for the upcomming Christmas. I believe you can choose what would be good for the interior color. We would like them to be delivered to Bagkok in Thailand asap. Thank you in advanced."

Steve Chang,
Represntative of S.H.I.T.

We will give one to the emperor as a birthday present and the other six shall be christmas gifts to the family of a true ally and friend. We will also throw in the passenger side DVD player. Happy Birthday and Merry Christmas!

We will give one to the emperor as a birthday present and the other six shall be christmas gifts to the family of a true ally and friend. We will also throw in the passenger side DVD player. Happy Birthday and Merry Christmas!
Much appreciated. Thanks again.

Here is a Map of North American S.H.I.T. controlled territory.

http://img142.exs.cx/img142/9765/northamerica4ek.jpg

Never knew Sharina has so much land. Although, I must ask as to why we have a map of territories North of the Equator. This being the Southern, Etc Etc Etc. Anywho, I need me an Imperial Expansion. Before Norleans eats up all the Land I had an eye on. Already took the South you did. I was planning on anything East of the Mississippi. :D

Oh, and, the ATM is having a Summit soon. Anyone interested?

Never knew Sharina has so much land. Although, I must ask as to why we have a map of territories North of the Equator. This being the Southern, Etc Etc Etc. Anywho, I need me an Imperial Expansion. Before Norleans eats up all the Land I had an eye on. Already took the South you did. I was planning on anything East of the Mississippi. :D

Oh, and, the ATM is having a Summit soon. Anyone interested?

I've just not gotten around to our southern holdings yet. You must own land in the Southern Hemisphere to join, but if you do, your Nothern territories come in too.

OOC: Norleans will help you gain Pennsylvania, like an Airbase in Tennessee?

][ There's actually an RP with Weyr that I would have liked to catalog the building and whatnot of my Armed Forces, but Weyr hasn't replied yet. I hope Weyr hasn't just ignored it. Anywho, Pennsylvania isn't claimed by anyone. First Im going to see if I can just claim it. I'm planning on purchasing Yevon of Spira's Maryland Claim as well. And I really hope Weyr dosen't ignore that RP. ][

][ Well that was pointless. I found where Kopparsberg founs the Maps...! (http://worldatlas.com/webimage/testmaps/maps.htm) ][

OOC:

Fodamatol has claims in South America, like Columbia and such.

I will be expanding my Latin America holdings tomorrow, as you will see in Earth V Incidents, and I'll invade Jamaica to put a stop to Vineyard's crap in the Americas, and secure S.H.I.T. control.

========================
IC:

We will aid Norleans and Mauiwowee in blockading the Gulf of Mexico, as we will not tolerate any rogue nations or allies of Vineyard to remain a threat to the security that S.H.I.T. provides in the Americas.

Vineyard must not be allowed to run free wherever it thinks it can. The world is not a playground, but Vineyard and his allies fail to realize that.

Our navy have already been at full combat readiness for the past several months in preparation for the invasion of Jamaica and a few other Latin America countries.

Live well and prosper,

Jenna Lan'ac
Sharina S.H.I.T. Representative

Here is a Map of North American S.H.I.T. controlled territory.

http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2630/northamericashit5jh.gif
cool

P.S. why does Norleans have so much more land than you?

cool

P.S. why does Norleans have so much more land than you?

Mauiwowee owns Australia and Brazil, which make it larger than Norleans. :)

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Oh dear Aliliah, you never mentioned Vineyard. Blessings. Why not just block off the entire Carribean? Not that fencing off the entire Water Body would be off any use, but blockading any Carribean Islands would do. We would aid you in any way we can, just ask, and please don't hesitate.

It's just that we have no Navy to speak of as of now.

If anything, allow this to be our sign of detest regarding Vineyard.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Oh dear Aliliah, you never mentioned Vineyard. Blessings. Why not just block off the entire Carribean? Not that fencing off the entire Water Body would be off any use, but blockading any Carribean Islands would do. We would aid you in any way we can, just ask, and please don't hesitate.

It's just that we have no Navy to speak of as of now.

If anything, allow this to be our sign of detest regarding Vineyard.

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

OOC: I thought you had the Dolly navy? :confused:

OOC: I thought you had the Dolly navy? :confused:

OOC: ROFL

South America:

http://img78.exs.cx/img78/5213/southamericashit1za.jpg

][ First off, I realized Simon Bolivar's dream. That's spiffin' in its own. Other that that, people need to learn how to spell Fodmodmadtol correctly. Oh, and Dolly? I laugh at my own Navy. ][

][ First off, I realized Simon Bolivar's dream. That's spiffin' in its own. Other that that, people need to learn how to spell Fodmodmadtol correctly. Oh, and Dolly? I laugh at my own Navy. ][

Damn, I'm sorry I speelled it wrong (pun intended) on the map. I'll get it right next time Fodmodmadtol.

K? :)

][ First off, I realized Simon Bolivar's dream. That's spiffin' in its own. Other that that, people need to learn how to spell Fodmodmadtol correctly. Oh, and Dolly? I laugh at my own Navy. ][

Damn, I'm sorry I speelled it wrong (visual pun intended) on the map. I'll get it right next time Fodmodmadtol.

K? :)

][ And why am I not on the North American map? ][

][ And why am I not on the North American map? ][

OOC: Would you accept that "because I'm a retard?" :D

Hey, at least I spelled it right this time.

Corrected map below:

http://img142.exs.cx/img142/9765/northamerica4ek.jpg

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8392/fodder5wu.png

][ How d'ya like them apples. :D ][

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8392/fodder5wu.png

][ How d'ya like them apples. :D ][
lol

you own all of NA except for Hawaii

lol

you own all of NA except for Hawaii


Yeah!!! that's mine :p

I'll join (i've got Ethiopia)

I'll join (i've got Ethiopia)


Members? What say you? Procco would appear on the surface to be a worthy candidate.

However, with all due respect Procco, based on current events, I am sure that certain members will be interested to know your stance on the activities of Vineyard and Mauiwowee as it relates to Vineyard's warmongering and Mauiwowee's use of a nuclear weapon to take out their fleet in the Pacific.

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/8392/fodder5wu.png

][ How d'ya like them apples. :D ][

Ain't happenin' without a fierce fight from me. :D

][ Kopparsburg updated the maps. It's official. You two have entirely way too much land :D ][

][ Kopparsburg updated the maps. It's official. You two have entirely way too much land :D ][

Heh. That may be true, but Tenebrocisis has the most land. He has 3/4 of Russia, and is looking to conquer other lands to remake the former USSR.

You could fit me and Norleans into Tenebrocisis territory and still have plenty of room left over. ;)

OOC: I have sent a telegram to Al-Khalja and asked what the name of his puppet is. According to the listing in Earth V-main thread a unnamed puppet of Al-Khalja controls Panama.

When I get the name, we can check it out. Maybe we need to take control over the Panama canal as it's very important to S.H.I.T.

OOC: I have sent a telegram to Al-Khalja and asked what the name of his puppet is. According to the listing in Earth V-main thread a unnamed puppet of Al-Khalja controls Panama.

When I get the name, we can check it out. Maybe we need to take control over the Panama canal as it's very important to S.H.I.T.

I'm already in the process of doing that by taking over 3 more Latin American countries, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicgaruga.

That leaves Great Romeo's one country and the puppet's Panama country. If I can capture these two countries, then I'll have full control of Latin America, and me controlling Panama will help S.H.I.T. and FOAM immensely. :)

][ Awe. Shucks. I was sort of hoping to conquer Panama. -Scuffs shoe- So what's FOAM? ][

][ Awe. Shucks. I was sort of hoping to conquer Panama. -Scuffs shoe- So what's FOAM? ][

I could help you invade Canadian Union. Or even Greenland. :)

When I get the name, we can check it out. Maybe we need to take control over the Panama canal as it's very important to S.H.I.T.
I recieved an answer... He has no puppet, and he changes the ownership of Panama to his mothernantion: Al-Imvadjah.

This is the reply I got:
I never got around to making it. I actually forgot all about Earth V. rp with me if you want, but I'm hardly ever on as Al-Khalja. TG me as Al-Imvadjah.

OOC: I'm too tired to do a full blown RP reply but basically, whatever we gotta do to get Panama in as a S.H.I.T. member needs to be done.

So what's FOAM?

FOAM = Full Oceana Allied Military - it is a military alliance set up to control the Pacific Ocean

We just want to inform S.H.I.T. that Kopparbergs has entered the nations of Maili and Western Sahara to defend them from the invasion of Warta Endor. You can say that there is a war situation between this two S.H.I.T.-members.

This action is taken to defend our neighbor nations in Africa against an invader. We will try to solve this issue with diplomatic talks, but we already have many troops in the said countries.

Anders Bergdahl
Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We just want to inform S.H.I.T. that Kopparbergs has entered the nations of Maili and Western Sahara to defend them from the invasion of Warta Endor. You can say that there is a war situation between this two S.H.I.T.-members.

This action is taken to defend our neighbor nations in Africa against an invader. We will try to solve this issue with diplomatic talks, but we already have many troops in the said countries.

Anders Bergdahl
Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We must say that you attacked our forces. It is against the S.H.I.T. rules exept if you have a good reason. Its true, we were "expanding" our territory, but Kopparbergs never said they had a treaty so it isn't a very good reason.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

Members,

The nation of Whitier- has requested to join S.H.I.T. and is hosting a worldwide peace conference to end hostilities between FOAM members and Vineyard, TGSR, Tenebricosis, etc. I believe that JeetKuneDo is in favor of Whitier- joining S.H.I.T. and the chair favors it too. I'd ask that we take a vote and rather quickly so that S.H.I.T. interests can be advanced under "one banner" at the world peace talks. Queen Harriet of Mauiwowee has been designated as Mauiwowee's rep. to the talks and she is requesting we give her some grant of authority to speak for SHIT. Obviously, that is up to the members as well as the extent of her authority. Please, we need replies to this before a world war erupts.

Bridgee Bhardoe,
Chairperson

Kopparbergs votes yes for Whittier-.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Warta Endor votes yes in this case. We would like to apologize to Kopparbergs for the short war we held, but we would like to know why the nation has given Doomingsland a base to attack us.

Ian Dunross
S.H.I.T. representive

Warta Endor votes yes in this case. We would like to apologize to Kopparbergs for the short war we held, but we would like to know why the nation has given Doomingsland a base to attack us.

Ian Dunross
S.H.I.T. representive

The chair is curious to know the reason for this as well.

Norleans has communicated a "yes" vote as well. That gives us a 5 member majority, Mauiwowee, JeetKundeDo, Warta Endor, Norleans, Kopparbergs. Whittier will be admitted and bring our total number to 9 nations.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

Whittier has our support in admission to S.H.I.T.

In other news, Fodmodmadtol makes things go "Boom!" (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=387861)

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Springs
Fodmodmadtol

We would like to thank the members for their vote of confidence. We hope that all of our nations will benefit from the free trade between our members.

P.M. to the S.H.I.T.-house in Brazilia.

Due to the official policy of Kopparbergs to keep neutral, and not to be part of a military alliance (see factbook), some voices in the government has been raised for Kopparbergs to leave S.H.I.T.

The persons in question says that the connection between S.H.I.T. and F.O.A.M. is too obvious, and out of the members in the S.H.I.T. we're the only ones not being members in F.O.A.M. (that's what they says anyway).

The government is going to hold a voting in this issue later this (NS) week. We will inform you of the result later.

Regards,
Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

P.M. to the S.H.I.T.-house in Brazilia.

Due to the official policy of Kopparbergs to keep neutral, and not to be part of a military alliance (see factbook), some voices in the government has been raised for Kopparbergs to leave S.H.I.T.

The persons in question says that the connection between S.H.I.T. and F.O.A.M. is too obvious, and out of the members in the S.H.I.T. we're the only ones not being members in F.O.A.M. (that's what they says anyway).

The government is going to hold a voting in this issue later this (NS) week. We will inform you of the result later.

Regards,
Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Please note that Norleans is a member of S.H.I.T. and NOT a member of FOAM or any other military alliance other than the Nebraska/Colorado agreement in North America with Sharina and a similiar Nebraska/Iowa agreement with Lachenburg.

Invoice from the Fodian Southern Federal Districts:

We aint' part of no Military alliances in hur', see? -Patouie-

Ministry of Trade
Department of Trading Bloc Finances
Department Chair Dasani Spring's... Little Brother from South Fodmodmadtol
Fodmodmadtol

I was talking about trade earlier and i think it would benefiet my country to join S.H.I.T so here:

Country: Revertromance

Major Export: Automobiles and Uranium

Major imports: ANYTHING, my people arn't farmers or cloths makers there like all bioengineers or something!!!!

Major Commerical ports: 4

Major Commerical Airports: 1

Discription: small island nation (currently in conquest of Uraguay )


We the High Command of Revertromance hope to hear from the S.H.I.T

I was talking about trade earlier and i think it would benefiet my country to join S.H.I.T so here:

Country: Revertromance

Major Export: Automobiles and Uranium

Major imports: ANYTHING, my people arn't farmers or cloths makers there like all bioengineers or something!!!!

Major Commerical ports: 4

Major Commerical Airports: 1

Discription: small island nation (currently in conquest of Uraguay )


We the High Command of Revertromance hope to hear from the S.H.I.T

As the Chairperson of S.H.I.T. we welcome you to our region and will put your membership to a vote.

::: Communication to S.H.I.T. Members :::

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The newly organized nation of RevertRomance wishes to join us. They occupy the Carribean island of Martinique and are currently, with Mauiwowee's aid, attempting to secure the state of Uraguay in South America. What say you to this fledgling member?

Bridgee Bhardoe,
S.H.I.T. Chairperson
Mauiwowee

The newly organized nation of RevertRomance wishes to join us. They occupy the Carribean island of Martinique and are currently, with Mauiwowee's aid, attempting to secure the state of Uraguay in South America. What say you to this fledgling member?
We think we should let them in. This is a vote on yes.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Whittier votes yes.

Communication to S.H.I.T. from Sharina:

We warmly welcome Whittier into S.H.I.T. May all of our nations become stronger and become closer together.

We vote Yea to allow Revert Romance into S.H.I.T. More trade can only be a good thing.

May we all live long and prosper.


Sharina Delegate,
Jenna Lan'ac.

Vote yes for RevertRomance to join.

Signed
Steve Chang
S.H.I.T. Representative

OOC: Maui, have Whittier- post his delegate and major exports and imports.

Norleans votes yes as well, looks like 6 votes in favor of RevertRomance.

Telegram to Norleans

It has come to our attention that Mauiwowee has cancelled some oil export contracts. As we import around 2.700 barrels a day from you, I just want to be sure you're going to continue to fulfill the contract made under S.H.I.T.

Patrik Winstell, Secretary of Trade
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We protest the fact that Sharina, allied to us through this treaty, is engaging in a war of aggression against us. We demand an explanation.

We protest the fact that Sharina, allied to us through this treaty, is engaging in a war of aggression against us. We demand an explanation.
We copy that. But Sharina has not done anything yet. But if he will, you can ask the S.H.I.T.-commision to vote for a suspension because of breaking part three. This goes for all S.H.I.T.-members, think of that!

This is an alliance for all nations of Earth V that are in the Southern Hemisphere. If you wish to join you must agree to the following:

1. All member nations will trade embassies with each other
2. This is not a military alliance and no member shall be obligated to come to the defense of another member nation by reason of membership in S.H.I.T.
3. That said, no member nation shall war with another member nation except for good cause shown. Member nations warring with each other are subject to suspension or ejection from S.H.I.T. upon a vote of the commission.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We protest the fact that Sharina, allied to us through this treaty, is engaging in a war of aggression against us. We demand an explanation.
S.H.I.T. = Economic Alliance

Not Militaristically binding in any way whatsoever.

S.H.I.T. = Economic Alliance

Not Militaristically binding in any way whatsoever.
But point three in the constitution for S.H.I.T. says that members of S.H.I.T. not should make war with each other.

But point three in the constitution for S.H.I.T. says that members of S.H.I.T. not should make war with each other.

We made war for a short time, I don't see the point in suspending Sharina.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

We made war for a short time, I don't see the point in suspending Sharina.

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive
Not me either, as he hasn't done anything that can count as an act of war. I just stated that if anybody in S.H.I.T. goes to war with another member, the third point can be of interest. Just so we all have that in our minds.

We do not wish anybody suspended from S.H.I.T., that's our statement.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Not me either, as he hasn't done anything that can count as an act of war. I just stated that if anybody in S.H.I.T. goes to war with another member, the third point can be of interest. Just so we all have that in our minds.

We do not wish anybody suspended from S.H.I.T., that's our statement.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

So we agree :D

Ian Dunross, S.H.I.T. representive

We protest the fact that Sharina, allied to us through this treaty, is engaging in a war of aggression against us. We demand an explanation.

OOC:

I have not attacked Wirraway yet, however, the coming World War (if it has not happened already) will force us to fight.

If your forces intermix with Doomingsland's forces then I will have no choice but to engage both of you, as Doomingsland is NOT part of S.H.I.T. He secretly sends a navy to the Caribbean (I know this OOC'ly) and you also sent a few ships to merge with him (again I know this OOC'ly).

If your, key word MERGED, navy attacks me, then you will be the one committing aggression, not me.

Same goes for ground or air forces being mixed in with Doomingsland.

Just an OOC note, I already have most of my navy in the Caribbean, preparing an attack on Cuba. I have hinted at this several times, several weeks ago, way before any of this World War thing has happened.

Wirraway's post in question... in the Earth V Incidents Thread.

Concordiat News Network

It has been relayed to us that the 2nd and 4th Battlefleets left their bases in Calais under cover of darkness a week ago. They have merged with the Doomingslandian naval assets and are now en-route to the Carribean. We have nothing further to report but we keep you updated as new reports are made avaliable to us.

Note the key word "merge".

All of this is OOC, and I'm not going to forumlate any IC response to this until stealth or secrecy is lifted (i.e. scouts report the fleet, fleets engage each other, fleets see each other, etc.)

Wirraway's post in question... in the Earth V Incidents Thread.



Note the key word "merge".

All of this is OOC, and I'm not going to forumlate any IC response to this until stealth or secrecy is lifted (i.e. scouts report the fleet, fleets engage each other, fleets see each other, etc.)

Valid point Sharina, I forgot about this post when I wrote the on in this thread. I withdraw all grievances against Sharina as in warfare one cannot differentiate between units working concert.

Telegram to Norleans

It has come to our attention that Mauiwowee has cancelled some oil export contracts. As we import around 2.700 barrels a day from you, I just want to be sure you're going to continue to fulfill the contract made under S.H.I.T.

Patrik Winstell, Secretary of Trade
Kingdom of Kopparbergs


Dear Mr. Winstell:

The South American pipelines remain open and are flowing as usual. The contracts with you have not been suspended or canceled. Mauiwowee has merely stopped the shipping, by tanker ships, of oil to non-S.H.I.T. members and into the European/African/Mediteranean theater of conflict from its Brazilian holdings. Norleans has stated it is remaining neutral in the conflict and all contracts for oil it has with S.H.I.T. members will be fullfilled in full. Contracts with you will be fullfilled via the South American Pipeline to your holdings there.

Bridgee Bhardoe
S.H.I.T. representative of Mauiwowee

Message to all S.H.I.T. members

The chair is glad to see that Sharina and Wirraway were able to work out their issues in the current conflict and that the call to suspend Sharina has been withdrawn. However, this issue raised a matter that the chair has taken under consideration and based on that consideration has determined the following:

1. Mauiwowee's leglislature has forbidden the use of her Brazilian forces in the conflict and the king of Mauiwowee has issued no official statement regarding Mauiwowee's position in the matter, though from all appearances Mauiwowee is tied up in China and unlikely to provide any meaningful military aid or involvement to anyone in the conflict.

2. Norleans has declared its total neutrality.

3. Kopparsberg, Sharina and Wirraway, on the other hand, are likely to end up in conflicts with each other in the war, but not due to a direct hostility with each other, but as the result of obligations under military alliances to come to the aid of other nations in a time of war.

4. Mauiwowee, Norleans, Kopparsberg and Sharina have holdings in South America, however, as a region, South America has no vested interest in the outcome of a war in Europe and the Middle East.

The chair therefore proposes the following:

A. That South America be declared a "neutral zone" in the war and that no nation use S.A. as a staging area and that Wirraway, Sharina and Kopparsberg communicate to their various allies in the conflict that they will not permit those alllies to use S.A. holdings for any military purposes during the war.

B. The nations of Wirraway, Kopparsberg and Sharina not be subject to suspension or expulsion from S.H.I.T. as a result of this war because, as noted, they are merely aiding allies under agreements with those nations and not directly warring with each other.

The chair awaits your feedback.

Respectfully,
Bridgee Bhardoe,
Mauiwowee

Message to all S.H.I.T. members

The chair is glad to see that Sharina and Wirraway were able to work out their issues in the current conflict and that the call to suspend Sharina has been withdrawn. However, this issue raised a matter that the chair has taken under consideration and based on that consideration has determined the following:

1. Mauiwowee's leglislature has forbidden the use of her Brazilian forces in the conflict and the king of Mauiwowee has issued no official statement regarding Mauiwowee's position in the matter, though from all appearances Mauiwowee is tied up in China and unlikely to provide any meaningful military aid or involvement to anyone in the conflict.

2. Norleans has declared its total neutrality.

3. Kopparsberg, Sharina and Wirraway, on the other hand, are likely to end up in conflicts with each other in the war, but not due to a direct hostility with each other, but as the result of obligations under military alliances to come to the aid of other nations in a time of war.

4. Mauiwowee, Norleans, Kopparsberg and Sharina have holdings in South America, however, as a region, South America has no vested interest in the outcome of a war in Europe and the Middle East.

The chair therefore proposes the following:

A. That South America be declared a "neutral zone" in the war and that no nation use S.A. as a staging area and that Wirraway, Sharina and Kopparsberg communicate to their various allies in the conflict that they will not permit those alllies to use S.A. holdings for any military purposes during the war.

B. The nations of Wirraway, Kopparsberg and Sharina not be subject to suspension or expulsion from S.H.I.T. as a result of this war because, as noted, they are merely aiding allies under agreements with those nations and not directly warring with each other.

The chair awaits your feedback.

Respectfully,
Bridgee Bhardoe,
Mauiwowee

I agree with all the points in the comission's findings / recommendations.

However, I must bring up an issue. What if Wirraway does engage in direct aggression towards me in the future?

Hypothetical situation:

Sharina invades Cuba.

Doomingsland sends a navy to the Caribbean Sea.

Doomingsland navy interferes with Sharina's invasion. Doomingsland navy attacks Sharina. Wirraway's navy is merged with Doomingsland's navy. Therefore, both Wirraway and Doomingsland forces attack Sharina's navy.

Then Wirraway would be directly attacking Sharina.


What are we to do then?


~Jenna Lan'ac

I agree with all the points in the comission's findings / recommendations.

However, I must bring up an issue. What if Wirraway does engage in direct aggression towards me in the future?

Hypothetical situation:

Sharina invades Cuba.

Doomingsland sends a navy to the Caribbean Sea.

Doomingsland navy interferes with Sharina's invasion. Doomingsland navy attacks Sharina. Wirraway's navy is merged with Doomingsland's navy. Therefore, both Wirraway and Doomingsland forces attack Sharina's navy.

Then Wirraway would be directly attacking Sharina.


What are we to do then?


~Jenna Lan'ac

That is a situation we will deal with when and if it arises, currently it is only a hypothetical possibility. Until the exact facts of a war like situation between S.H.I.T. members is know, I don't think it advisable to speculate.

The chair therefore proposes the following:

A. That South America be declared a "neutral zone" in the war and that no nation use S.A. as a staging area and that Wirraway, Sharina and Kopparsberg communicate to their various allies in the conflict that they will not permit those alllies to use S.A. holdings for any military purposes during the war.

B. The nations of Wirraway, Kopparsberg and Sharina not be subject to suspension or expulsion from S.H.I.T. as a result of this war because, as noted, they are merely aiding allies under agreements with those nations and not directly warring with each other.

The chair awaits your feedback.

Respectfully,
Bridgee Bhardoe,
Mauiwowee
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs accepts the two paragraphs above, and will follow them.

Anders Bergdahl, Secretary of S.H.I.T.
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Revertromance will also obliege to the following paragraphs:

The chair therefore proposes the following:

A. That South America be declared a "neutral zone" in the war and that no nation use S.A. as a staging area and that Wirraway, Sharina and Kopparsberg communicate to their various allies in the conflict that they will not permit those alllies to use S.A. holdings for any military purposes during the war.

B. The nations of Wirraway, Kopparsberg and Sharina not be subject to suspension or expulsion from S.H.I.T. as a result of this war because, as noted, they are merely aiding allies under agreements with those nations and not directly warring with each other.

The chair awaits your feedback.

Respectfully,
Bridgee Bhardoe,
Mauiwowee

This war is comsuming the world and must not spread to either South or North America!

The chair therefore proposes the following:

A. That South America be declared a "neutral zone" in the war and that no nation use S.A. as a staging area and that Wirraway, Sharina and Kopparsberg communicate to their various allies in the conflict that they will not permit those alllies to use S.A. holdings for any military purposes during the war.

B. The nations of Wirraway, Kopparsberg and Sharina not be subject to suspension or expulsion from S.H.I.T. as a result of this war because, as noted, they are merely aiding allies under agreements with those nations and not directly warring with each other.

The chair awaits your feedback.

Respectfully,
Bridgee Bhardoe,
Mauiwowee


Norleans agrees and would note for the chair that RevertRomance has holdings in S.A. as well.

I withdraw my membership from s.h.i.t.