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In a official statement made by the Northern Albanian leader Jecht Ackbar, the following message was broadcasted to the various nations across the world.

" Today we reveal our true ancestry passed down by the various predecessors before us in the shape of communism...For years we have shrouded our dream in mystery in fear that we would be horrifically oppressed by our southern family...But today we shall declare our government a state of communism to the world...And from hence forth we officially open our arms to our communist brothers....."


A secret memo was then ordered to the various communist nations located within the world.

"Comrades....We are now a numbered few in the world and hence do you not think it would be fitting to keep our ties strong in case of being singled out..?..Therefore we also ask any communist country to help us reunite the country by delivering us various military and supply aid so we can win the war...And if us being brothers is not enough...perhaps having a foothold within the region shall help spread the ideals of our great nations..."

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Hail Comrades!

The People's Republic of Warta Endor welcomes its political brother. We like to open diplomatic relationships. We would like to place a small PLSOPS (People's Liberation Special Operations) Brigade of 1000 men, 25 T-90 and 5 Apache 64AH Longbow in your country. We sugest Nirevas Storefront for any purchases:http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=353467

Department of Foreign Affairs

IC:
Official statement by the North Albanian government:

We graciously accept the offer from our fellow comrades and hope that together we shall keep the ideals true to its word....Therefore we shall open ports for the transfer of this special forces...We would also like to perhaps open trade links with each other so we can share our knowledge and raw resource...And whilst this is all happening perhaps we can become allies for many years to come....

We await your reply

Jecht Ackbar.

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In a completely unrelated story, the Shildonian aircraft carrier Hysperia and her escorts are going to be staging a series of excercises in the Mediterranean Sea, just south of the Strait of Otranto. We wish to remind all interested nations that the seas are free for the passage of all, and that our vessels will remain in international waters at all times.
These excercises will involve the firing of live ordanance, and so we recommend that civillian shipping and aircraft remain outside of the exercise area so as not to place themselves in any danger.

Ministry of Defence, Public Relations Dept.
People's Republic of Shildonia

IC: Official statement adopted by the government:

We have no problem with the testing of your vessels.....However any vessels that enter our international boundries shall be eliminated..

We will send $5 billion of military credits.

IC:
Statement made too Kanabia :

We thank you for your offer, and will hence forth open up an account which shall be enclosed within the fax below:


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To: Northern Albanian Governement
From: Kanabia
Account Number ********

Amount: 5 billion

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If you wish to open trade links we shall discuss further

The 67th carrier group has been dispatched to the Mediterranean Sea, just south of the Strait of Otranto to engage Shildonian forces in military exercises. We wish to remind all interested nations that the seas are free for the passage of all, and that our vessels will remain in international waters at all times.
These excercises will involve the firing of live ordanance, and so we recommend that civillian shipping and aircraft remain outside of the exercise area so as not to place themselves in any danger.

Alfarius Damocales, Minster of Defence.

OoC: Don't mind the post copy ;)

IC: Official statement adopted by the government:

We have no problem with the testing of your vessels.....However any vessels that enter our international boundries shall be eliminated..



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Hail comrades!

The 31st. "Mountain Rockers" brigade is being shipped in with all its equipment in the port of Singapore (Earth V). It should arrive in 1 RL day. You are welcome to open a embassy in Singapore. The Warta Endorean Communist Furniture Company (TWECFC) is interested in opening a factory and possible a larger area were it can sell its high quality products.

Department of Foreign Affairs

Official statement by the N.Albanian government.

We thank you comrades for your brigade and willingly shall allow you to open a factory in the area around Shengjin, just along the eastern coastline of Northern Albania. In turn we expect it to increase the chances of collective employment within the recently rebuilt area..Whilst doing this we would like to open trade links with you perhaps in food supplies, as well as various other raw materials..And maybe as we are close allies perhaps we could trade military equipment in return for several of your factories opening up.

Hail Comrades!

What are your military needs?

IC: We would require the following comrades:

1. Extensive training regime of the official armed navy, air and land divisions..We can not keep up such an intense regime due to the costs of running it..

2. A Modernization of the Land, Defence, Sea and air equipment

3. We would require help at developing an navy..

4. And modernization of the Armoured divisions as our forces our still mainly made up of T-72 tanks..

5. Some Modernization of the Air force...


Of course we will not expect you do to all those things but we would appreciate a little help due to our war-torn economy.

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Hail Comrades!

We can give you the following equipment as compansation for the factories:

-500 T-90
-35 Mig29
-15 Apache 64AH Longbow

For packages check the following thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352216

We would like to buy all your T-72 and replace them for about 2/3 of the amount of T-72 with T-90.

IC:
Official Statement :

We graciously except the package, and we shall open up several airfields and sea-ports for the incoming arrival of the delievery. As for the T-72 there our rougly 9000 thousand currently operational...With another 5 thousand being developed...However although we accept your offer we feel that due to the T-90's maintanaince costs....We will struggle to maintain them and hence why we still use outdated armoured tanks from our old soviet-friends.

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We will happily supply what you need. 4.5 billion tank tracks are being sent to various accounts of your members, and you are always welcome for a discount at RSI.

Shildonia and Dumpsterdam may attack you.
Be on your guard.

Official Memo to D.P.U.O:

We thank you for your assumptions and for your supplies..Therefore upon delivery we shall open up several ports and airports for your work which we shall discuss upon a more secure line.(T.G or another thread)

If you want to do this in secret perhaps you could hide it within a cruiser of which could be discussed..

May as well do it by TG.

Flight Deck, PRSS Hysperia 2319 LIMA

The flight deck of the PRSS Hysperia was a scene of barely organised chaos. Harpies were scattered around the place waiting their turn to be launched into the Combat Air Patrol, while a selection of the ships compliment of Centaur ground attack aircraft were sitting on alert to be launched to destroy any possible attack against the carrier group.
To the untrained observer, the EA-5d E-Centaur sitting in the shadow of the carriers towering superstructure may have looked just like a regular A-5a Centaur, but it was in fact a little over a metre longer, to accomodate with the additional two seats in the cockpit, as well as a whole pantheon of sophisticated electronic sensors designed to gather intelligence on stray emmissions, most notably radar, but in theory anything transmitted on virtually any frequency in the electromagnetic spectrum could be picked up.
With no jamming pods or fuel tanks slung under the wings, the E-Centaur was a sleek machine capable of breaking the sound barrier without even using the afterburners, good for making a quick getaway if the insurgents decided to launch fighters to deny the crew its legal right to travel in international airspace. Air cover for the mission would be provided by a pair of Harpy air supremacy fighters.
The ground crew were making their final checks over the aircraft, while they waited for the flight crew to come out of their briefing. Once they arrived, particular care was taken to ensure that the cartridge containing the flight plan was properly installed. The mission called for them to fly a course keeping 20km off the Albanian coast while the sensors gathered data on the types of radar being used, as well as any other useful bits of information that could be picked up, and any deviation could result in getting shot at.

(all these people just happily sending shipments of stuff, check your atlases. There's only one way into the Adriatic, and that's past two carrier battle groups, which, while not formally conducting a blockade, could very easily begin to do so without any warning.)

Another Official Statement was issued to the violation of international borders:

We once again ask you two stop this violation of international law and withdraw your attempted blockade..If you do not heed this last warning a pre-emptive strike shall be launched upon your carrier groups..

We expect full co-operation and would rather not resort to military attacks.

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The Eastern Coastlines just a few miles east of Shengjin:

Upon receiving orders from the government, the Coastlines protected by various medium and long range S.A.Ms, patriots, and Medium range Ballistic missiles, were ordered to go towards yellow alert, an obviously tragic sign for any aircraft foolish enough to enter the international boundary.

---Air bases near the Eastern Coastline--

The Air bases like the Missile sites were also told to go to yellow alert, thus resulting in the various personal scurrying towards their aircrafts as they prepared for a likely conflict.

While not agreeing with their Communist ideology we must put forth our support for our allies The eternal-dragons/Northern Albania. It may be true that we cannot put forth much a challenge to the blockading nations, we must try our best to serve our allies Northern Albania in their hour of need. We ask Shildonia especially, that they please do reconsider their actions. This is an unprovoked show of force and agression. They have no transgressions against your nation.

In response to a build up in hostilities one of our Auxiliary legions stationed in a bordering nation to Northern Albania will station themselves, with permission granted by Northern Albania, inside Northern Albania.

Auxiliary Legion I:
-300,000 Men
--80 M102 105mm Lightweight Towed Howitzers
--60 M198 155mm Heavy Towed Howitzers
--400 Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles Launchers
--200 FIM-92A Stinger Launchers
--300 M-220 TOW Missile Launchers
-150 F-14's
-150 F-16's
-200 AH-64 Apaches
-300 M1A2 Abrams
-500 M1121 HMMWV
-600 LAV Fighting Vehicles
-300 M2A3 Bradley Fighting Vehicles

In addition these forces have set-up various mobile S.A.M. and Patriot Missile batteries across the nation in anticipation for escalation in the conflict. The S.A.M. sites and their accompanying radar are well capable of tracking and hitting high/fast flying aircraft. The Patriot batteries of course to take down a majority of cruise missiles launched in a precision strike.

From home the Emperor had decided to send further Aerial/Naval support and dispatched the following forces:

Aerial and Naval Legion I:
-160 F-14's
-30 CGN-38 Virginia Class Cruisers
-5 Nuclear Submarines (Not armed)
-2 Nimitz Class Carriers
-60 AOE-1 Sacramento Cargo Ships
-5 Cassius Class Trimeran Destroyers

Aerial and Naval Legion II:
-160 F-14's
-30 CGN-38 Virginia Class Cruisers
-5 Nuclear Submarines (Not armed)
-2 Nimitz Class Carriers
-60 AOE-1 Sacramento Cargo Ships
-5 Cassius Class Trimeran Destroyers

Aerial and Naval Legion III:
-160 F-14's
-30 CGN-38 Virginia Class Cruisers
-5 Nuclear Submarines (Not armed)
-2 Nimitz Class Carriers
-60 AOE-1 Sacramento Cargo Ships
-5 Cassius Class Trimeran Destroyers

THESE FORCES WERE ORDERED NOT TO ENGAGE UNLESS FIRED UPON

We ask all nations that support communism, or perhaps the curbing of uneeded war to help stop Dumpsterdam and Shildonia. The Empire of Fate and Honor IS NOT Communist, but it is very right wing - however, we DEEPLY support our ally Northern Albania/The Eternal-Dragons.

Alexius Julii
Foreign Minister, Imperial Courts of Foreign Affairs

We support the communist cause around the world. We would be more than happy to send a coupple thousand Red Army Troops and Vermillion Red Marines to your nation to help guard it.

Communist Louisiana condems both dictatorships of Shildonia and Dumpsterdam. You two have NO right to decide what governments run each nation. You make capitalism look even worse than what I or my own comrades could ever do. If you do try anything that would infringe on the rights of this newly founded communist providence, we will have no problum becomming militarily involved and involving a multitude of our allies.

Premier Daniel Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL

Official message to F.O.H :

We accept your assistance despite our government difference as we have not found reason to break our strong ties...Therefore we shall allow access to our country for military purposes..And allow coastal airbases and ports for aerial deployment..

Official Message to C.L government:

We thank you for your support fellow brothers...And will follow suit by opening up underground and official military bases for your personal use...They of course will be dicussed on a more secure line (T.G Or thread)

May we remind all nations that we are conducting military exercises in international waters? We are not forcing the commies to do anything but it seems you are determinded to tell us what to do in international waters while it clearly states that such waters are free for travel for any nation. Any attack by communist forces upon Dumpsterdanian vessles will result in hell given by both us and the RWC.

PS: Premier Daniel Dufour, maybe you should check up on our military exercises in the waters just south of your nation, I'd think they'll be much more interesting for you.

Alfarius Damocales, Minster of Defence.

Then I would have to pose this question to you Mr. Alfarius Damocales. Why is it that you chose to perform military "excercises" near a nation who's interest is in these turn of events, Northern Albania. Prior to their announcement of accepting Communism, and asking for international aid it occurs to me your two nations had no interest in running excercises in this area.

This point, along with the fact that Shildonia is conducting "Excersises" which probe the defenses of Northern Albania, deeply concerns me. Please, if you are here with no intention of war explain this.

Alexius Julii
Foreign Minister, Imperial Courts of Foreign Affairs

The First and Second Aerial-Naval Legions had arrived to the area, and proceeded to anchor themselves inside Northern Albanian waters. Admiral Flavius stepped out onto the deck and observed the Shildonian fleet. He gave the order to begin the air patrols, and screw scurried around the deck. Loudspeakers on the ship called to pilots up to deck, and planes were fueled up.

Minutes later a squad of F-14's roared of the deck - the first of a rotating squad of pilots to being flying patrols countering possible Shildonian incursion into Northern Albanian airspace.

Official Lethislavanian Response

Ah, another great country has found the light. Well, as always, our faire country would like to see your country prosper. Therefore, we shall send you 6.7 Billion per year, for the next 4 [Four] years, under accordance LC 6.B.

Chancellor Thomas Winkling

OOC: Could LS Auto expand into your country, by any chance?

Both the DRN and the DRA favor the caribbean and to a lesser extent the Mediterranean sea for military exercises. This has been like this for years since we have very strong allied presence in those seas and us choosing the the area around Northern Albania is pure coincedence.

Oh and as for war, if you had done your homework Alexius, you'd know by now that Dumpsterdam does not use Imperialisme or any other excuse to bomb a nation into the ground.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have several military exercises to oversee.

Alfarius Damocales, Minster of Defence.

(So can I now assume that I now know the frequencies of your radar installations along the coast?
Fate and Honor: F-16s don't do carrier landings. Certainly not if you want them to land in one piece. The F-16's owned by the US Navy are simply used for aggressor training, not for actual carrier ops.
Also there is no way you will be able to get close enough to observe any of my aircraft carriers. They have several rings of defensive ships spreading out over 15 miles in each direction from the carriers. Not to mention the sheer implausibity of your magic teleportation past the fleets assembled. I can't speak for Dumpsterdam, but I would have sunk any foreign warships that got as close as you must have done in order to get through the Straight of Otranto. Go and learn a bit of geography. We are currently sat right in front of the only entrance to the Adriatic. Unless you want to drive across Italy, there's no other way in.
Oh, and you can't conduct flight ops while at anchor, unless you're using VTOL aircraft. Which you aren't. Make the corrections and then I will respond to your actions.
CL: I can't read your posts, and even if I could I wouldn't acknowledge them. Kindly get lost.)

The armed forces of the People's Republic are merely conducting peaceful excercises in the waters of the Mediterenean. These exercises are in complete accordance with international law, and we have no plans to violate the sovereignty of any nations. We are however greatly concerned by these apparant schemes to bully us away from our legal right. This is little more than state sponsored piracy. Be warned that any attack on a Shildonian vessel or aircraft in the course of its legal duties will be considered an act of war, and will be dealt accordingly.

From: Grand Admiral Ulas.
To: Shildonian Fleet command.

Incription: ROMERANDERAS

Since we seem to be both doing the same thing in the Adriatic sea and the commies are getting trigger happy I propose a merging of fleets to deter any would be attackers. I have already given orders to Commandeur Raditz to work together with the Shildonian fleet but should you find no use for this then let us know so we can keep our ships away, we like ours without any holes and such.

Grand Admiral Ulas.

TO: Dumpsterdam
FROM: Premier Dufour

We are really not worried about the Carribean at this time. I doubt any nation would be dumb enough to try to attack Communist Louisiana when our close allies of Neo-Soviet Russia (control Cuba,Puerto Rico, and Haiti), and Aztec National League (all of central America and Mexico) would automatically help me fight any foreign fleets trying to wage war on me. The Gulf of Mexico would be turned into a lions den for anyone trying to attack me or my allies in the region.

TO: The eternal-dragons
FROM: Premier Dufour

We will send the troops at once comrades. We are also sending 11 Cargo Ships carrying food and other supplies needed by your civilian population. The ships will be escorted by the Vermillion Fleet.

Vermillion Fleet
2 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier's
x50 F-35 Joint Strike Fighter's
x50 P-7 (LRAACA)
x50 F-4G Advanced Wild Weasel's
x10 S-3B Viking
x10 F-5 Tiger II

5 Shotgun Class Cruise Missile Submarine's
7 Los Angeles Class Submarine's
2 SSBN-726 Ohio-Class FBM Submarines(SLBM ready)

1 Wright Class Aviation Logistics Support Ship's
2 Georgic Class Support and Command Ship's

5 Arleigh Burke guided missile AEGIS Destroyer's
5 Pacifica’ Class Destroyer's
7 Type 45 Daring Class Anti-Air Warfare Destroyer's

3 Superior Class' Corvette's
4 Vengence Class Corvette's

5 CG-47 Ticonderoga Cruiser’s
5 Arctica’ Class Cruiser's

10 Atlanta’ Class Frigate's
9 CGN 25 BAINBRIDGE Class Frigate’s
9 De Zeven Provincien Class Air Defense and Command Frigate's

5 Mackensen Class Trimaran-Hull Battleship's
7 Leviathon Class Trimaran Battleship's
4 Skjold Class Battleship's

Fate and Honor: F-16s don't do carrier landings. Certainly not if you want them to land in one piece. The F-16's owned by the US Navy are simply used for aggressor training, not for actual carrier ops.
Also there is no way you will be able to get close enough to observe any of my aircraft carriers. They have several rings of defensive ships spreading out over 15 miles in each direction from the carriers. Not to mention the sheer implausibity of your magic teleportation past the fleets assembled. I can't speak for Dumpsterdam, but I would have sunk any foreign warships that got as close as you must have done in order to get through the Straight of Otranto. Go and learn a bit of geography. We are currently sat right in front of the only entrance to the Adriatic. Unless you want to drive across Italy, there's no other way in.
Oh, and you can't conduct flight ops while at anchor, unless you're using VTOL aircraft. Which you aren't. Make the corrections and then I will respond to your actions.

OOC: Ok, well to start I did not know F-16's were incapable of doing carrier operations, and have made sufficient changes. Secondly, you would notice that I am not observing your ships - that reference was simply saying my Admiral looked at your fleet which was on the horizon. Now, at first you were saying you simply were conducting excersises in internation waters - then why would you stop my fleet from passing by? I'm not totally up to speed on international law, but you can stop a ship from passing in international waters (Unless of course in a war)? I do quote you by saying you are not blockading them. You would deny access, and then start a war when a foreign nation wanted to use waters that they were also legally entitled to? No sense at all. Now, I was also unaware a airplane couldn't land on a carrier while it was anchored - however, that fact was irrevalent to the situation wasn't it? You were just looking for anal rentative details to refute at that point.

IC:

To all parties involved I must stress that we do not wan't war. Northern Albania/The Eternal-Dragons are our allies, and we are here to show support for that. Once again, we do not want war.

Alexius Julli
Foreign Minister, Imperial Courts of Foreign Affairs

All OOC: Ok, well to start I did not know F-16's were incapable of doing carrier operations, and have made sufficient changes. Secondly, you would notice that I am not observing your ships - that reference was simply saying my Admiral looked at your fleet which was on the horizon. Now, at first you were saying you simply were conducting excersises in internation waters - then why would you stop my fleet from passing by? I'm not totally up to speed on international law, but you can stop a ship from passing in international waters (Unless of course in a war)? I do quote you by saying you are not blockading them. You would deny access, and then start a war when a foreign nation wanted to use waters that they were also legally entitled to? No sense at all. Now, I was also unaware a airplane couldn't land on a carrier while it was anchored - however, that fact was irrevalent to the situation wasn't it? You were just looking for anal rentative details to refute at that point.

OoC: Now you do. And all fleets maintain a zone around themselfs in which they will blow any neutral or enemy(duh!) aircraft out of the air and the same goes with ships. Its just a safety zone that you cannot enter on penalty of missle barrage. However, you can pass along the fleet and the exercises but entering the live fire area means you'll get targetted.

OOC: Well, I'm not going to go through all this for the rest of the thread. I'll just drop out.

Official Memo to the Lethislavanian government:

We thank you for this offer dear comrade, and as a result we shall open up several enclosed bank account numbers on a more secure line. And if you wish, we shall perhaps allow you to establish some sort trade or development negotiation upon our lands.

We hope this allied status continues for many years..

Jecht Ackbar.

Official Statement to Shildonia and Dumpsterdam:

We please ask you diplomatically once again to withdraw from our waters. We also state that although you our free to do tests as you please, we still enquire that it is suspicious after declaring ourselves communists just a few hours before this began. So although we once again wish to not engage your forces, we will do so if you do not comply within the next few days.


--------Encrypted Message to the C.L government:------

We thank you once again for supplies and at this time we cannot provide you with anything but friendship. However if you wish it, you could perhaps use this country as a foothold within the Mediterranean sea, and therefore perhaps over time we could eventually make communism the dominant force and unite Albania. Of course we cannot comply unless certain things our given to us, as we have been devastated by a number of wars recently, and have only just started to recover.

OOC: So let me get this straight: If I want to I can say "well they got to close to me" and blow any ship I feel like to kingdom come? Well I must say, how convenient. Does it allow the use of nuclear-tipped cruise missiles too? Methinks there's some convenient BSing going on here. Sorry, but I find it hard to accept that there is any legal code saying that a set distance, determined by the one setting it, is off-limits to ships doing nothing more than pursuing legal trade with another country - unless you're performing a blockade, which is an act of war anyway. So why not just cut the bull and blockade them, or get away from it and stop wasting time? 'Cos frankly I have no huge wish to waste time posting if I'm gonna get "oh you die now but we're not in a blockade really" crap going on.

OOC: Lol i understand your moan in a way....

Welcome to the world of the people. :fluffle:

The Orthadoxic Clerics and StrathNal welcome you and offer a friendly alliance of equal benifits.

Check out the StrathNall storefront! (Old Enlcave) http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=370031


People's Czar Alexi, Paladin of the West

OOC: So let me get this straight: If I want to I can say "well they got to close to me" and blow any ship I feel like to kingdom come? Well I must say, how convenient. Does it allow the use of nuclear-tipped cruise missiles too? Methinks there's some convenient BSing going on here. Sorry, but I find it hard to accept that there is any legal code saying that a set distance, determined by the one setting it, is off-limits to ships doing nothing more than pursuing legal trade with another country - unless you're performing a blockade, which is an act of war anyway. So why not just cut the bull and blockade them, or get away from it and stop wasting time? 'Cos frankly I have no huge wish to waste time posting if I'm gonna get "oh you die now but we're not in a blockade really" crap going on.

OOC: Thankyou.

Official Response to Stratnal:

We thank you for your time and effort in proposing this alliance.....However we must unfortunately decline...for reasons we would rather not state right now.

00C: Bump

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It's called Rules of Engagement. If a ship starts sailing suspicously close to any of my ships it would be given a warning at 200miles, another warning and a shot across the bows (or more likely a low level, high speed pass by an aircraft) at 130miles, followed by opening fire on it at 100miles (or more, depending on what anti-ship missiles the vessel is known\suspected of having).
For reference, the Strait of Otranto is 47 miles wide, 12 miles of which belong to Italy, and another 12 miles belong to Southern Albania (which is presumably not Communist). Go figure.

TO:The eternal-dragons
FROM: Vermillion Fleet

Our fleet and its supplies will reach your nations waters within 24 hours.

----Encrypted Message to C.L----

We thank you immensly comrades.......However be wary of the congregating enemy...

(Tag for a post later this evening)

It's called Rules of Engagement. If a ship starts sailing suspicously close to any of my ships it would be given a warning at 200miles, another warning and a shot across the bows (or more likely a low level, high speed pass by an aircraft) at 130miles, followed by opening fire on it at 100miles (or more, depending on what anti-ship missiles the vessel is known\suspected of having).
For reference, the Strait of Otranto is 47 miles wide, 12 miles of which belong to Italy, and another 12 miles belong to Southern Albania (which is presumably not Communist). Go figure.

A civilian freight ship? What's it going to do, throw food at you? Assault your carriers with a particularly deadly fusillade of machine parts? Perhaps they're going to attempt to ram you in their large, ungainly ships. Makes perfect sense, of course. :rolleyes: Well whatever. No need to go your way in any case, which is handy.

OOC: I see....Neo-soviet russia...And yea its not normally accepted when you say you will destroy a civilian ship carrying nothing but food...Because otherwise it is nothing other then a blockade ....

"USS Cole". A merchant ship could carry a sizeable amount of conventional explosives, certainly enough to create an explosion of several kilotons. Alternatively it could be carrying an assortment of nuclear weapons. Either way it's a pretty sizeable explosion.
I could also point to the Q-boats used in World War Two by the Royal Navy, which were armed merchant vessels.

It could indeed. But then again, it could also carry little more than several tens of thousands of pairs of socks. Is it common policy to simply blow them up without even checking? Or is it merely US policy (which is the more likely option)?

So let me get this straight, Shildonia IS blockading this communist nation which is completely against all International Laws. This nation has done NOTHING and you still act like a facist/terrorist nation (which to me and a majoirty of my allies still see you as). Your nation has no right to do this and you need to back off. Is it me, or is he being the aggressor here. The same now goes for Dumpsterdam.

The fleet of Supply Ships as well as their escorts sailed continuously towards Northern Albania only 70 miles from their point of destination

Actualy, you have nothing on us. Where not obstructing trade and only using live rounds to blow up some junk targets, live with it or go away.

It is the policy of the People's Republic that lives have varying degrees of importance attached to them. The highest priority is saving the lives of Shildonian civillians. Second highest is serving members of the Shildonian armed forces. Third is enemy civillians, and finally it is enemy military personel.
A civillian merchant ship is at best enemy civillians, and consequently it represents a lower value than the lives of the Shildonian sailors aboard my ships. That's why it would be sunk, and there is not a nation on Earth that would allow potentially hostile ships to sail right past a multi-billion dollar warship. Apart from woolly sorts like yourself who would quite happily allow thousands of people to be murdered, rather than take the effort to actually save them.

An interesting conslusion that those who would seek to stop you from starving a legitimate state to death are somehow cowards. An equally interesting one that you have the right to do something so monumentally stupid. perhaps you would like us to apply the same doctrine to Shildonian shipping?

If a ship bearing the flag of any nation was acting in a threatening manner towards one of your warships you would be well within your rights to sink it, and I would theoretically support you in doing so. All nations have the right to self defence, even Communists.

*TAG* I 'll just follow for now.

If a ship bearing the flag of any nation was acting in a threatening manner towards one of your warships you would be well within your rights to sink it, and I would theoretically support you in doing so. All nations have the right to self defence, even Communists.

I'd hardly describe moving in a direction that would bring the vessel close to mine en route to somewhere else threatening. Even if it was, a principle which most sane people would adhere to is to assume it's not actually doing anything hostile, and treat it as such, even if you do decide to do something such as search it. If it was hostile, then you'd find out when it did whatever hostile action it intended to do, but then again, if it was a flagged vessel you'd know who did it. And if it did nothing then you'd have not made an ass of yourself by sinking it. Strange that Iraq seems to be a poor tutor.

I never said that ships would be just sunk without warning. I clearly stated they would be given multiple warnings, and if they refuse to heed those warnings then they could quite justifiably be regarded as being hostile.

A civilian vessel cannot be simply considered hostile for no good reason - that is unless you want to become a pirate or declare a blockade. For you to claim that it is hostile to your vessels when there is no evidence of such is not only fraudulent and foolish but I would contend aggressive as well, indicating that your sole wish is to starve a perfectly legit nation because you don't like it. Not that it'll work.

ooc: I have a cunning plan.

IC: To Northern Albania

Congratulations on your new-found communism. We wish you success and will be happy to supply you with arms. If requested (ooc:by TG, I don't have a storefront at the moment) we could supply you with some of our equipment.

Taldaan

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The small boat made it's way slowly towards the Shildonian fleet. It was around 205 kilometres away, and closing. Essentially a stripped-down Pufferfish Assault Craft (one of my designs), it now carried only one 20mm machine gun, which contained no ammunition. If anyone had looked inside the cabin, they would notice it was strangely empty. It had basically been stripped, with only the turning controls and a computer. It was programmed to move towards the Shildonian fleet without stopping for any reason. Once fired upon, it would be a legal grounds to declare war. A few complaints about a patrol boat being sunk in international waters, and then the Taldaani forces could come crashing down.

ooc: Notice the boat, but the rest is secret

Meh, in any case due to the width of the strait Shildonian vessels are in violation of the rights of passage available in international waters, given that they will fire upon any vessel that they feel like.

OoC: Maybe Shildonia, but not my vessle's since I'm keeping low profile and strict formation so its very possible to just pass the fleet along either sides.

Oh and DPUO have you never heard of armed freighter's? Or even of the feared Dumpsterdanian Pandora's Box ships? I can assure you after you've seen the devastation caused by what looked like a merchant ship you'll become a whole lot more paranoid.

OOC:
So when NATO hosts the world's largest naval manouvers off the coast off the east coast of scotland the entire north sea becomes a no go area? soemhow i don't think so.

Oh and are you demanding that the possibly hundreds of air traffic corridors that might just happen to pass over that region be rerouted?

You see moat exercises are held away from regular shipping lanes, to hold them within or in close proximity to shipping lanes is a blatant act of agression to anyone who uses the lanes. this is why exercises don't just consist of moving fleets around you kind of have to ask the locals, i doubt that the italians, albanians and anyone else within a hundred KM or so is happy with you.

As for favouring the med for manouvers, well that is a bit silly cosnidering just how many hundreds of other fleeets liek to operate there.

Sorry abotu the rant but such blatant BSing and border line harrasment is a bit annoying.

The Mediterrenean is the perfect place to train for littoral warfare. Why do you think hundreds of fleets like to operate there? The Italians are probably quite pleased that someone is standing up to a militaristic rebel pseudo-country, which is currently in the process of arming itself for aggressive warfare, and the Albanians are probably quite pleased that someone is protecting them from the insurgents in the north. Try reading the entire thread before ranting off a lot of nonsense that makes little to no sense whatsoever.

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The inbound ship was first spotted by a patrolling E-2c at a distance of approximatly 300km (you can't just announce you've got to 205km distance, that's essentially godmoding as you gave me no possible countermove.), which radioed the Hysperia, advising them to launch a pair of Centaurs to investigate. Due to the high state of alert, the Centaurs were airbourne within four minutes, and began moving to intercept at low level.
A message was sent to the ship, advising that she was about to enter a live fire excercise are, and that there was danger of being inadvertantly hit. Hearing no reply, the message was repeated on various frequencies and in various languages, again with no reply.
By now, the two Centaurs were preparing to overfly the ship, and so they switched on their high resolution digital camera's, so that the ship could be identified and the risk assessed. After flying over the ship's bow, the two Centaurs dropped chaff and flares, to distract any missiles that might be fired, and climbed to a higher altitude and began circling. On each aircraft, the Navigator\Bombardiers emailed the images back to the Hysperia for analysis, and then brought them up on their MFDs to look for the best place to hit, if such action became necessary.
Speed was of the essence, since the ship was now almost 150 miles from the fleet. Preliminary analysis revealed no missiles onboard, and since the ship appeared to be riding high in the water it was deemed unlikely to be carrying any significant amount of explosives. Since the ship still wasn't responding to radio calls, the Centaurs were ordered to make another low level pass, and to switch on their FLIR to look for any heat signatures onboard.
Since none are found, the descision is made that the ship is adrift in international waters, and so a squad of Marines are landed on the ship by a Merlin helicopter to claim salvage rights. After disabling the computer (either by smashing it up or switching it off, I don't care either way) and checking for explosives, the ship loaded onto the Assault Carrier PRSS Aristrides for safe keeping.

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TO: Taldaani Naval Command
FROM: Shildonian Fleet Command

Earlier today a small patrol craft bearing the flag of your nation was found adrift in the Mediterrenean Sea, close to the Strait of Otranto, by one of our carrier groups. Attempts were made to contact the crew by radio, but these attempts were unsucessful. Images taken by one of our reconnaisance aircraft suggested that the ship was without a crew, and so the descision was taken by commanders on the scene to land a group of Marines on your ship to verify all was well. Unfortunately, it was not. The crew appears to have deserted, or been seized by persons unknown, possibly pirates, though there have been no recent reports of pirate activity in the area. However, it appears that the internal fittings of the ship have been stripped away, making piracy a likely cause. We have instructed our fleet to keep an eye open for any possible pirate activities in the area, and we will of course keep you aware of anything we may find.
Naturally we will return the ship to you as soon as the fee for salvaging the ship can be arranged, though due to the seemingly tragic circumstances surrounding this incident, we would prefer for the money to be distributed amongst the families of the missing men, as their need is doubtless greater than ours.
Please contact us as soon as possible to make arrangements for the return of your ship, and please express our deepest sympathies to the families of the missing men.

OOC: Sorry for the delay iv'e had a lot of rl things to do..So there will be very short and quick posts ....Therefore forgive me if it does not make sense



IC:
====Memo to the Taldaani Government:====

We thank you comrades for your support and alligence during this rebellious times....Therefore seeing as we our now a numbered few in the world we shall accept your proposal of weapons transfer and shall open up a few ports to accomdate for this transaction...However we shall discuss the details of the mission on a more secure line (T.G Most likely)

Yours truly

Jecht..

ooc: Sorry about the 205km thing, I just saw something saying that people would only be bothered about boats at 200km.

ic: To Shildonian Government

We thank you for telling us about our missing vessel. We recieved its distress signal six hours ago and had been looking for it.
As you have suggested, we will pay the salvage fee to the families of the missing sailors, and also send your condolences to them.
We would like the boat to be returned fairly swiftly. We can send a vessel to pick it up, or you could simply drop it off in our waters.
Also, we may have some armed trade vessels passing through that area fairly soon. If we warn you in advance, could we have permission to bring them through?

Taldaan

OoC: Maybe Shildonia, but not my vessle's since I'm keeping low profile and strict formation so its very possible to just pass the fleet along either sides.

Oh and DPUO have you never heard of armed freighter's? Or even of the feared Dumpsterdanian Pandora's Box ships? I can assure you after you've seen the devastation caused by what looked like a merchant ship you'll become a whole lot more paranoid.

Yes, I have indeed heard of them. Most (sensible) people, however, don't assume that they're armed and open fire. Such stupid presumptuousness causes wars, and wars are, as we all know a bad thing. Nor do they simply decide to board them and thus cause any armed personnel with no intent of doing anything to open fire, either.

The Mediterrenean is the perfect place to train for littoral warfare. Why do you think hundreds of fleets like to operate there? The Italians are probably quite pleased that someone is standing up to a militaristic rebel pseudo-country, which is currently in the process of arming itself for aggressive warfare, and the Albanians are probably quite pleased that someone is protecting them from the insurgents in the north. Try reading the entire thread before ranting off a lot of nonsense that makes little to no sense whatsoever.

Perhaps it would be well for you to note that because it is your opinion that they would like what you're doing doesn't make it so. I could just as easily contend that having two heavily-armed battlefleets of which one is the representative of an historically aggressive nation blocking their trade lanes and playing merry hell with their economy as a result, not to mention even being there, isn't making them the happiest of gents in the world.

OOC:
just out of interest what about vessels travelling through national waters, does your rahter silly exclusion zone preempt territorial claims?

the fact that the med is used by hundreds of fleets is a very good reason not to use it.