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Anyone interested in beef?

Greater Islands
28-10-2004, 06:24
In the Confederacy of Greater Islands, our chief export is beef. It is considered to be the best even better than Kobe. If anyone is interesed buying please let me know.

Prices:
Gourmet (From our finest farms):
Per kilo (no bones): 35 pounds sterling
Per kilo (bones) : 29 pounds sterling

For the average consumer:
per kilo (no bones): 16 pounds sterling
per kilo (bones): 12 pounds sterling

Purchases in excess of 1 metric ton will be given 10% discount.

Will not accept any purchases in American Dollars.
Do your own math.
Vastiva
28-10-2004, 06:34
Ab-shalom and greetings;

Perhaps you would be so good as to give a conversion factor to the USD, as that is the standard against which most countries measure themselves?

Vastiva would be interested in huge imports if the price can be determined.

Namaste,
Voyate Shumash ben Allen
Vizier of Commerce
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
RomeW
28-10-2004, 07:38
To my knowledge, this is the conversion in Canadian dollars (all figures Canadian):

Prices:
Per kilo (no bones): $390
Per kilo (bones) : $362.5

At eighty cents to the U.S. dollar, that translates to (all figures US):

Prices:
Per kilo (no bones): $312
Per kilo (bones) : $290

If this isn't correct someone please correct me.
Greater Islands
28-10-2004, 08:51
These prices are correct, thank you RomeW. But in order for me to accept your transaction you must convert to pounds sterling. Any fees for conversion are to paid for by your government. I'm sorry to be difficult, but we cannot morally support imperialism and that includes the USD. This is the official position of The Confederacy of Greater Islands. However, I would like to set up some sort of trade agreement between our two nations

Looking forward to prosperous trade and peace,

Yve le Poisant
Chair of Commerce
The Confederacy of Greater Islands
Vastiva
28-10-2004, 09:10
At 2.2 kilos to the pound, that comes out as $686.40 per pound.

A bit pricey.
RomeW
28-10-2004, 19:26
At 2.2 kilos to the pound, that comes out as $686.40 per pound.

A bit pricey.

OOC:

Yeah, Greater Islands. Although (ICly) I would love to set up trading relations between our fine nations, this beef is extremely expensive. At McDonald's a quarter pounder is $3 (Cdn.), so that beef is 5720% more expensive. I mean, unless this is EXTREMELY amazing beef quality-wise, then maybe it'd be worth to spend $1,000/lbs. (so the country can make a profit on the beef), but even then I doubt you'd have anyone besides Bill Gates who'd be willing to pay that much because it doesn't make much economic sense (at $1,000/lbs., that amounts to $3.65 MILLION a year just for PART of a meal. That's an awful lot to spend on food).

So, as a bit of friendly advice, see if you can scale it down to, say, $50/lbs., which would still put it on the expensive side for regular beef but would be justifiable for extremely great beef. Then you'll have more takers.
Greater Islands
28-10-2004, 19:40
OOC Is this better, I'm new, and also not quite yet familiar with the metric system.
RomeW
28-10-2004, 20:41
OOC Is this better, I'm new, and also not quite yet familiar with the metric system.

OOC: Hey, don't worry about it- we all make mistakes. I'm not going to grill you for it- unless it's your steak :D

IC:

Upon hearing the news of Greater Islands' new beef products, the Roman Minister of Commerce, Videllia Catriana, a noted beef lover, decided that to put in a request to try the beef.

Dear Greater Islands,

It has come to our attention that you have begun to offer worldwide the sale of your beef. As the Minister of Commerce for the Roman Empire and as a beef lover myself, I request a sample so that we may decide if we will order more beef.

Thank you,
Videllia Catriana
Minister of Commerce, Rome West
Vastiva
29-10-2004, 05:53
OOC:

Yeah, Greater Islands. Although (ICly) I would love to set up trading relations between our fine nations, this beef is extremely expensive. At McDonald's a quarter pounder is $3 (Cdn.), so that beef is 5720% more expensive. I mean, unless this is EXTREMELY amazing beef quality-wise, then maybe it'd be worth to spend $1,000/lbs. (so the country can make a profit on the beef), but even then I doubt you'd have anyone besides Bill Gates who'd be willing to pay that much because it doesn't make much economic sense (at $1,000/lbs., that amounts to $3.65 MILLION a year just for PART of a meal. That's an awful lot to spend on food).

So, as a bit of friendly advice, see if you can scale it down to, say, $50/lbs., which would still put it on the expensive side for regular beef but would be justifiable for extremely great beef. Then you'll have more takers.

OOC: My gripe is he's more then twice what good Kobe beef goes for (around $300 a pound). Here's a primer on the stuff:

http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/wagyu.html

Granted, you can have really good beef, but you've priced out your market. Vastiva would be interested in a food staple, with some of the more expensive put in. But all Kobe would be ridiculous - calorie return on investment would be minimal. Heck, whale would be cheaper, even with the fines.

A suggestion - diversify the market. Not one type of beef, but several breeds. This one can be "choice select", and hideously expensive, but if you want buyers, you need "mass market beef" too.
Mauiwowee
29-10-2004, 06:21
At 2.2 kilos to the pound, that comes out as $686.40 per pound.

A bit pricey.

Shouldn't that be 2.2 lbs. to the Kilo?
Vastiva
29-10-2004, 06:31
OOC: Why yes, it should be.
Greater Islands
29-10-2004, 07:06
ooc> Is this better, sorry I got it so screwed up, I'm just trying feed my family man, you know bring home the bacon... err steak.
Vastiva
29-10-2004, 08:22
To my knowledge, this is the conversion in Canadian dollars (all figures Canadian):

Prices:
Per kilo (no bones): $390
Per kilo (bones) : $362.5

At eighty cents to the U.S. dollar, that translates to (all figures US):

Prices:
Per kilo (no bones): $312
Per kilo (bones) : $290

If this isn't correct someone please correct me.

OOC: Greater Islands, my error makes your prices correct. :rolleyes: Everyone makes mistakes, this one was mine.

One kilo = $312. That makes one pound worth about $142.

I'd still suggest at least three "breeds" or "levels", with the most "prime" worth about $400 per pound (or $880 per kilo) as a "beef supreme in marbleing and consistancy even to the legendary Kobe beef", and the least much less. This will allow more buyers.

You might also have jerky and pemmican available.
RomeW
01-11-2004, 06:26
OOC: My gripe is he's more then twice what good Kobe beef goes for (around $300 a pound). Here's a primer on the stuff:

http://members.tripod.com/~BayGourmet/wagyu.html

OOC: From what I gathered from that link, Kobe beef is only $300 because it's shipped from Japan and not because it's really that expensive. According to this, (http://www.kobe-beef.com/quality.html) Kobe beef only goes for $100 in Japan itself.

Although, after the conversion error, $142/lbs. is not a bad price, assuming it's better than Kobe beef, as it's not that much more expensive.
Vastiva
01-11-2004, 10:17
OOC: From what I gathered from that link, Kobe beef is only $300 because it's shipped from Japan and not because it's really that expensive. According to this, (http://www.kobe-beef.com/quality.html) Kobe beef only goes for $100 in Japan itself.

Although, after the conversion error, $142/lbs. is not a bad price, assuming it's better than Kobe beef, as it's not that much more expensive.

OOC: Greater Islands you might put your prices back the way they were, or diversify. I made an error in conversion, sorry.


IC:
Ab-shalom and greetings;

Vastiva wishes to know what form payment you would prefer. We usually deal in Polar Crowns, our national currency, or in trade goods.

Namaste,
Voyate Shumash ben Allen
Vizier of Commerce
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
RomeW
02-11-2004, 00:00
OOC: Greater Islands you might put your prices back the way they were, or diversify. I made an error in conversion, sorry.

OOC: I second this. I'd also like to know if my (for the lack of a better word) request for my Economics Minister to sample the beef has been accepted.
Pr4seodymium
02-11-2004, 00:14
These prices are correct, thank you RomeW. But in order for me to accept your transaction you must convert to pounds sterling. Any fees for conversion are to paid for by your government. I'm sorry to be difficult, but we cannot morally support imperialism and that includes the USD. This is the official position of The Confederacy of Greater Islands. However, I would like to set up some sort of trade agreement between our two nations

Looking forward to prosperous trade and peace,

Yve le Poisant
Chair of Commerce
The Confederacy of Greater Islands

I'm pretty sure a pound is about $1.85 USD

Thus, it should be:
64.75
53.65
29.60
22.20

USD.

I shall purchase 300,000 kilos of the expensive stuff.