NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC:
Application/Planning/Lengthy OOC Commentary Thread= http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366494
Odds and Ends Thread= http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=367321


Rules of the Conference: (Just so nobody says I didn't say it)
1.) Try and keep big things to 1-2 a day. Don't move super quickly.
2.) Remember where your country is coming from, what they're capable of. For pretty much all of you, that means not threatening big, powerful countries like Britain or Germany (Nordrreich) too much. A better policy is to play bigger countries against each other if you can.
3.) You aren't going to get EVERYTHING you want, but if you play your cards right, you should be able to get part of what you want. Particularly if you pitch it well to big countries.
4.) A specific time frame isn't really possible, I don't think. But the whole Conference is probably going to be over about a year, or about a week or so IRL if things go well.
5.) Wars should go in a seperate thread.
6.) Conferences were a big thing in the 19th cent. And this is modelled on the Grandaddy of them all, the Berlin conference. So what is decided here is essentially the global status quo. And if people try to upset it too much, people will react.
7.) Keep OOC to a minimum. I'm not going to say none, because I'm sure I'll do some myself. The application/planning thread is a better place to put large amounts of it though. And Galveston Bay's 'Items of Interest' thread is a good place to put odds and ends IC.
8.) Have fun!

Konigstadt:

The Kaiser, Friedrich II strode down the halls with his best friends, Erich von Manstein and Philip Eulenberg. Although formally, Manstein was a colonel in the guard and Eulenberg the Kaiser's personal financial assistent, they were secretly second only to the monarch himself in power in Nordrreich. The Kaiser, nominally the commander in chief of the armed forces, tended to defer to the advice of Manstein. And Eulenberg ran a vast intelligence empire, collecting information from every corner of the globe.

The two men controlled a parallel, shadow Empire to the official one, in which power was vested in the Chancellor by the Kaiser. Many suspected they were more powerful than they seemed, but few knew the true extent of it. There were, however, unlike most of the official Government, devoutly loyal to their emperor and best friend. He had met them in school, and held them in his ultimate power. They both owed everything to him.

Manstein was an ethnic Pole, although he spoke German and was adopted by a German family. This would normally have presented a major obstacle to advancement in Nordrreich society. Eulenberg was Jewish, the heir to a major banking family. While the law had granted Jews equal rights under the law since the 1780's, Anti-Semitism was not an uncommon sentiment in the country. The Kaiser himself felt that Jewishness itself had little to do in undermining Germanness. As long as they viewed themselves as German first, then their faith was of no concern to him. And he knew that the notions of a Jewish race were false.

It was with these two otherwise outcasts that Friedrich II would open up the Conference at Konigstadt that would forever secure the ascendancy of Nordrreich in Europe. He had great ambitions, but knew he would have to be careful. He had the benevolent neutrality of Russia and the passive acquisance of Britain. France was disregardable ... Nordrreich was much stronger already, and growing, while France was weak ...

The Americas would be an interesting frontier. With no hegemonic state present, he could perhaps win a great deal of influence there. But he did not particularly desire to impinge on their basic sovereignity. His ambitions were squarely concentrated in Africa. He had heard of the explorers, of great empty lands full of heathens to convert to Christ and resources to fuel the economy. He would have to secure himself there.

And furthermore, he would need to expand the one arm of Nordrreich that wasn't strength itself. The navy. Manstein had already advised that he double naval spending, but the Kaiser didn't think he had gone far enough. Given the paucity of naval spending, he could triple it ... tie it to inflation. The economy was booming. The army kept Europe at bay. The move was his now. If he performed well, the twentieth century would be a German one.

But first he would have to put on his performance before the audience of diplomats. He had high hopes for the conference. The reins of history were within grasp at last.

Prime Minister Johann Ritter thought this conference to be important enough to attend personally. Nordrreich was a major European power, and he knew that it had major ambitions. It was his goal to press both British Hannovers ambitions and what he felt were the best interests of North America. He felt that independent democratic nation-states peacefully cooperating would work better than the empires of Europe.

Ritter wanted peace, because peace was good for business. And the business of British Hannover was business. That, and he wanted an excuse to plaster thousands of leaflets all over Nordrreich to convince those who were less fortunate that a greater destiny awaited them in the great empty West of the country. But foremost, he wanted Nordrreich to keep itself out of the Americas, and he was willing to make concessions in other places to do so.

John Mossbacher, the Ambassador from the Republic of Texas, was enjoying his visit to Nordreich. In 1838, his grandfather had moved to Texas from here, along with a goodly number of the people of his village of Gadenstedt in Hannover, and seeing the old homeland was an interesting experience for him.

(ooc, you would be amazed by how many Germans moved to Texas, 17% of the 1990 census has German roots, mainly from western Germany)

His German was even getting better, although he could see smiles occasionally as the locals noticed the odd Texas twang to his speech, but he didn't mind. They seemed to like having a Texas cowboy in their midst.

His real business here was complex though. He was to once again encourage German emigration to Texas, as they were valued settlers. He was to look into getting some artillery from Krupp, whose new rapid fire artillery was the best in the world, and he was to look into getting a military mission from Germany to provide training in modern ways of war, especially logistics and staffwork.

The Texas Army was well experienced, outstanding cavalrymen and riflemen, but artillery and staffwork was a weak point, and that was something the Yankees excelled at.

But most importantly, he was to see what this Kaiser had in mind. He had read reports and his friends back home in Fredericksburg had received letters indicating that Nordreich was looking at expanding into colonies outside of Europe. It was important to find out if North America or Central America was on that list, or if the Caribbean was.

That would mean a clash with the Yankees and Nordreich, and that could mean problems.

Eliahu-Ezra Elias Pasha, President of the Republic, for the first itme felt comfortable in leaving his country under the control of Grand Vizier Nasir Pasha who had proved loyal and at the same a very competent Minister. After all, it was a neccesity that Elias be represented by its Head of State at this conference and for him to meet and greet other world statesmen personally.

The President's agenda was simple, to let the nations of the world know that Elias was a credible, stable and actually quite important state in the areas of global trade and commerce. Indeed not only did Elias control a majority of Middle Eastern cotton as well as other raw materials, but it was also a major transhipment point for spices from the Orient, of course having access to The Red Sea also could give the nation some power over movements through the relatively new Suez canal if neccesary. The other main aim was to keep the support of The British who had quite frankly been eager to help Elias as it was a way of weakening their great rivals in the Middle East, The Ottomans. Having supplied warships and military equipment under loans granted on favourable terms, Elias had to prove they were capable of repaying a debt of not just money, but gratitude as well.

Chancellor Clemens von Kluck was not looking forward to this conference at all. His nation's position was completely in the air. The Russians did not care too much about the independence of Austria or Bohemia, and of course, Nordrreich wanted nothing more than to seize both to complete its plans of forging a greater Germany.

He knew he would have to make powerful allies in order to maintain his nation's very existence. No less than Great Britain could keep Nordrreich from seizing the country. Von Kluck knew that while most Osterlichers wanted to remain independent, very few would be willing to die for it. There had been a long-term minority movement, especially among Osterlich's Protestants, for integration with Nordrreich.

He would have to be very careful indeed. But also brave, because a moment's cowardice would surely result in annexation. He mumbled a quick prayer before walking towards the great Conference Hall.

OOC> Yeah, there are a lot of Germans in Texas. But there's even more, per capita at least in the Midwest. About 50 million Americans in all claim German roots, more than any other ethnic, as opposed to racial, group. I believe Irish is next, at about 40 million.

Mossbacher walked to the conference from his lodgings, enjoying the air and his coffee. He decided to sit for a moment and read the cable that had reached him this morning. Glancing through it, enjoying his cigar and coffee he nodded with satisfaction as he read the contents. The Secretary of State was coming, the grandson of Sam Houston himself. That son of the old hero should make at least a good impression. Even as young as he was.

He had proven himself worthy of his distiguished grandfather in the Comanche Wars, and his negotiations with the Yankees had done much to ease tensions along the bordere with them in Missouri.

(OOC, for those of you who don't know Texas history, Sam Houston won the battle of San Jacinto after the Alamo fell, defeated the Mexican Army and was the first President of Texas... a larger than life figure even back then in Texas and American history. Oddly enough, he is also the only American to have been both a governor and senator from two different states)

Friedrich II strode down the halls of Templehof Palace, admiring statues of great ancestors as he passed. Although not an exceedingly tall man, standing about 5'10, he was athletic and well-built, giving him the appearance of a taller man. His boots also had a one and a half inch hidden heel. His skin was fair, although his hair was dark brown. Wearing a well-groomed moustache, most people thought of him as handsome enough. A young man, on the eve of his twenty-eighth birthday, his steps were long and straight. His physical form was only marred by his left arm, deformed since birth. By exhausting efforts, he had managed to regain mobility, but little strength. It was also about six inches shorter than the right.

But he was one of the most powerful men in the world, only surpassed by his grandmother, Queen Victoria. He was the near-absolute ruler of the most powerful nation in Europe and one whose power was still consolidating. Friedrich was glad he was born into a mighty nation, as his ambitions would be impossible in a modest country like Belgium or even a moderately powerful one like Italy. A young dynamo seemed to fit him like a glove.

Ever since he watched the victory parades streaming into Konigstadt from victory in France, he knew that his ambition was ultimately no less than to rebuild Charlemagne's great empire. For far too long, the lands of Charles the Frank and Louis the German had been seperated, fighting over the Middle Kingdom of Alsace-Lorraine. The Kaiser would create a new Holy Empire that would dominate the continent, but he was also patient. This ambition could wait.

First, he needed colonies for Germany, and his mind wandered to the great empty spaces of the Congo. He would gain support for his colonial ventures, build a wealthy empire. Using that wealth, he would increase his army and navy, maintaining his generosity to the workers on whose backs his empire was built. Britain and Russia were good potential allies in Europe, but he knew he would have to choose one or the other. As for the Americas, he knew instinctively whom his support would go to. The newly humiliated United States of America was ripe for the support of a young, strong nation. The Kaiser knew it had immense potential, both in itself and as an ally of the German Empire.

Britain and its North American Dominion British Hannover would side with the petty nations of the Americas and France. These would be his enemies. If he could align himself with Russia and the United States, he could form an invincible alliance which would dominate the world. But one step at a time. There would be time for his dreams later. Now he would have to focus on setting the stage for a performance which would rock the world to its foundations.

He sang a hymn to himself as he walked. Our Lord Is A Mighty Fortress, the favorite song of the Lutheran armies in the wars of religion. 'God must be a German', he thought to himself. 'Why else would he allow us to attain such greatness?'

Claude Pierresmonte frowned.

The Prime Minister's company to Konigstadt had become used to this from him since they had entered Nordrreich.

Pierresmonte was to come in person to the Conference; that, no one had disputed. He was determined to exude confidence and determination to those other in attendence. But this was not only a facade; Marshal Le Blank, the second-highest ranking person in the delegation, came to know soon Pierresmonte dreamed about the once-glorious and feared France, though one with the republican ideals and freedoms-if such a thing were possible.

'Yes,' thought Pierresmonte. 'No more Alsace-Lorraines here.'

The Elias delegation, conservatively dressed in tailored suits rather than the elaborate costumes of Royalty arrived at the conference hall; other than the President who had travelled much due to his background as a wealthy cotton merchant, none of them had visited Germany before. Some of the aides were awestruck by the impressive, ominous architecture, similar to the excess and grandeur of Ottoman palaces in Istanbul, but they were also deeply disconcerted by the deppressing nature of the place. From what it seemed, grey dull people, lived dull conservative lives under an even duller grey sky that never seemed to clear, it was a culture shock in the extreme and could not be further from the hustle and bustle of Baghdad, an exciting and at times almost chaotic city.

The President himself reflected, it had been twelve years since he last travelled to Europe, since then he had come from being a very succesful businessman, suddenly flung into politics when he was appointed by The Ottoman Sultan in 1869. The years since had been a non-stop battle, first a battle to introduce reform in the 'tanzimat' years, then a battle to unite the peoples of the province, then a real battle against the Turks who unsuccesfully and half heartedly attempted to retake the land. After he proclaimed the Republic on the fateful day of April 16th 1876 he had woken up every day, unsure whether it had fallen apart overnight. Now, standing here in Germany as a world statesman on a par with Kings and Emperors, he realised what it had all the struggle had been for.

The Lightning Starian Delegate, a 6 foot tall African man in a military uniform, strode down the entrance hall followed by 20 soldiers armed with the latest in military firearms. He could tell that most people here had never neen black people before, so he ignored their staring. He had orders to try to establish ties with Nordrreich and France so that together they could launch a succesful war against Great Britain. Of course, that would be no easy task, France and Nordrreich had been enemies for years. If neither would join, their only option would be to ally with Britain so that united both nations could easily and swiftly destroy all opposistion on the Continent. Then, however, the Lightning Star would use the Africans anger at being ruled by foreign europeans to their advantage and the entire Contintent would rebel against their European masters. It would take a long time, but eventually the African Continent would be free.

Of course, the Delegate, whos name was Lt. General Mubago Awinday, had one other important mission. There were rumours that the Americans, and possibly even the Texans, were using their African brothers as slaves. That was to be stopped at once. He was authorized to order that all ships bound to Texas be stopped, and he had an entire fleet of Pirates to enforce it. Africa was no longer going to be the worlds breadbasket. Soon, the rest of the world would be AFRICAS breadbasket.

Prime Minister John Ritter went with a small entourage with an eminently casual air. He had little to fear directly, isolated by an ocean from Nordrreich and protected by his nation's historic ties with the mighty British Empire. However, he had a mission to fufill that went far beyond simply assuring his nation's security and prosperity, important though that was.

If he said that he desired to save the world in public, he might be laughed at. But between the bitter, humiliated yet still mighty United States and the arrogant Kaiser and his equally egotistical Empire, he felt there was a real threat to what he regarded as a relatively secure world order. As a boy working on his father's farm, he had an uncanny ability to sense storms. He knew which way the wind was blowing, and thought it would be prudent to prepare for it, whether he was right nor not.

He saw Pierre Claudesmont and spoke a respectful greeting in fluent French. That skill had come in handy in winning the rural seats in Quebec where the Quebecois, a holdover from the days when France ruled the whole region still lived. He intended to remain on friendly terms with the French. Even in his far off vision of the Anglo-Sphere, he knew the French would play an important role.

Once they had threatened Europe, when Napoleon rode his armies forth to conquer the continent. But those days were long over. The great enemies of Waterloo might find themselves brethren against a greater threat. But one step at a time.

In the Konigstadt Conference building

General Awinday was searching for the delegate of British Hannover. It would be good if he could establish favorable ties with the nation, seeing how it was an important trading nation in the other hemisphere. Not to mention that British Hannover had a large amount of power on the North American Continent and with the British Empire, so he could get two birds with one stone so to speak.

When he saw that the delegate was currently busy, he asked on of the BH delegates aides and said "Hello, is there another repreentative i can talk to since your main delegate seems busy right now?"

OOC> Don't know if all of you know, but British Hannover is me, and so is Osterlich.

British Hannover IC Post:
'There are other delegates ... do you not know? That is our Prime Minister.' The other delegate said quietly. 'Only he has the authority you probably seek.'

Nordrreich IC Post:
The Kaiser noticed the delegation from Elias. He had heard of their independence movement from the Turks. It was all very inspiring, but he feared that this development had effectively destroyed his aim of building a Berlin to Baghdad railroad. He approached their delegation, dispatching Philip and Manstein from his presence. Hienkel, a massive, totally silent bodyguard was the Kaiser's sole accompaniment as he went to strike up a conversation with their delegates.

'Bonjour,' Responded Pierresmonte to the Hannover PM. Switching to his accented but adequate English, he continued. 'I am sorry I was not able to do this earlier, on the actual day, but I congratulate you and your nation's newly found independence. I hope we can look foward to a long friendship.'

The General approached the Prime Minister. "Good sir! I am the delegation from The Lightning Star. I would like to have a word with you. Seeing how we are both major trading/commerce countries in our own regions, i believe we will see eye to eye, so to speak."

The President greeted the Kaiser with a curteous and defferential bow of the head, before starting to speak in fluent English, starting simply by thanking him and his nation for their hospitality. With this formality complete he allowed the Kaiser to speak, seeing as how Germany was likely the future of Europe, it would be wise for him to listen closely.

Perdition! thought Wilhelm as he strode into the Conference hall. Why did the storm have to hit just before the conference? Why did the blasted ship we were going to travel on, the WNS Arquebus, have to be damaged?He made a mental note to improve on the weather forecast system when he returned to the capital.
Meanwhile, he had other fish to fry. Looking about, he spotted the two delegations he needed quickly. British Hannover was to the left, Nordrreich to the right. He had a choice: to establish stronger ties with British Hannover and the rest of the currently almighty British Empire, which was having revolutions and reforms occuring through many of its colonies, or with Nordrreich, which appeared to be the new up-and-coming challenger to Britain, with many recent victories in war. Both sides showed promise, and both had allies (and thus access to much trade) the world over.

Thinking hard, he decided to go back on a past offer to British Hannover, and approached the Nordrreich delegation.

Mossbacher entered the conference and proceeded to make his way to the Kaiser in order to make his diplomatic hellos. It was important to see what this man was like. The stability of Europe depended on this man's stability, especially with the French weaker than they had been since the Middle Ages and the British just weren't a land power.

He remembered his classes at West Point. Britian depended on no one nation in Europe dominating that continent so that it could build a fleet big enough to invade the British Isles, and the US and the nations that now existed after its division he decided depended on the Royal Navy to keep Europe away from the Western Hemisphere.

He knew his President saw it the same way. Hopefully the American and Confederate Presidents did too.

Waiting until he was noticed, he made a courtious bow, and introduced himself in German and then thanked the Kaiser in German for hosting the conference.

ooc Mossbacher speaks German the same way an Australian sounds to an Englishmen... a thick accent in otherwords.

*yawn* bump.

The Prime Minister regarded the Lightning Star delegation for a moment. He had heard things about the country, some positive, others not so. The possibilities of trade were potentially very great indeed, but he sensed danger as well. Their geographical position was threatening to British interests in India, and Ritter had a vague feeling they were not content with their current borders. He would handle them with care.

'May I introduce you to the President of the French Republic, the honrable Claude Pierresmonte?' Ritter smiled. Then his countenance became a little more serious. The French had extensive interests in North Africa, the British had small colonies throughout the continent. Lightning Star dominated East Africa. Could they come to an arrangement somehow?

'Mr. Pierresmonte, as you know, Lightning Star is the dominant power these days in East Africa. A very important location for world trade and politically important too.'

The Prime Minister regarded the Lightning Star delegation for a moment. He had heard things about the country, some positive, others not so. The possibilities of trade were potentially very great indeed, but he sensed danger as well. Their geographical position was threatening to British interests in India, and Ritter had a vague feeling they were not content with their current borders. He would handle them with care.

'May I introduce you to the President of the French Republic, the honrable Claude Pierresmonte?' Ritter smiled. Then his countenance became a little more serious. The French had extensive interests in North Africa, the British had small colonies throughout the continent. Lightning Star dominated East Africa. Could they come to an arrangement somehow?

'Mr. Pierresmonte, as you know, Lightning Star is the dominant power these days in East Africa. A very important location for world trade and politically important too.'


"Good to meet you, Mr. Prime Minister and Mr. President. I have heard many great things about both of you, and I am honored to be in your presense(sp?)." said the General. He was trying to flatter them, although he anticipated it would work more on the Frenchman. They always had big heads.

"Let's get down to buisiness, shall we? All three of our Nations have extenisve amounts of land in Africa, expecially us since thats where our nation is. My government believes that we should find and agreement so that our Nations can peacefully expand on the African Continent."

"If we were to find some sort of Non-agression pact, all three of our nations could expand without having to worry about another power, and we could split the continent in three. While we havent fully finished working on the plan, we believe that even in this young stage it will benefit each of our nations tremendously."

'Indeed, it is. Africa is to become a player on the world stage. I am afraid I haven't had the pleasure of visting that part of the continent.'

Pierresmonte's thoughts had also turned to France's interests in Africa. He wasn't sure what these East Africans thought of the North Africans, and of the French, but he didn't want to upset anyone that could compromise France's position.

'Indeed, it is. Africa is to become a player on the world stage. I am afraid I haven't had the pleasure of visting that part of the continent.'

Pierresmonte's thoughts had also turned to France's interests in Africa. He wasn't sure what these East Africans thought of the North Africans, and of the French, but he didn't want to upset anyone that could compromise France's position.

"And i have never had the pleasure of visiting France, m'lord. It seems that we both are missing out on something grand."

This seems to be going better than i thought it would. Mabugo thought to himself. At this rate we shall have Madagascar in no time! And once they had fully conquered their land, the trap shall be sprung and they will be stuck fighting against multiple tribes. Then we can easily convert all the tribes to our banner and crush these Europeans like FLIES!

OOC: The part that was in itallics was in his mind. Also, his face didn't change expression so you cant tell what he's thinking.

Mabugo then turned to talk to the British Hannover Prime Minister.

"M'lord, in The Lightning Star we have heard rumors of slavery being practised on your continent. Could you verify this for us? We see slavery as a plague upon this Earth, and we believe that with your help we may be able to purge these slave-states of their slaves and make the world a much better place. Less slavery, mind you, means much more trading and quality goods, so the abolishment of Slavery would certainly help both your economy and ours."

"And i have never had the pleasure of visiting France, m'lord. It seems that we both are missing out on something grand."

This seems to be going better than i thought it would. Mabugo thought to himself. At this rate we shall have Madagascar in no time! And once they had fully conquered their land, the trap shall be sprung and they will be stuck fighting against multiple tribes. Then we can easily convert all the tribes to our banner and crush these Europeans like FLIES!

The man laughed. "Yes, that is true.

"Now, as for this--non-aggression pact, you say...I think this may be a good idea. Of course, yes, the details need to be filled in."

Pierresmonte wondered how these Africans would feel about helping Europeans such as himself colonize their native continent. It was for the better, Pierresmonte thought, but it seemed some people didn't care for the settlers.

The man laughed. "Yes, that is true.

"Now, as for this--non-aggression pact, you say...I think this may be a good idea. Of course, yes, the details need to be filled in."

Pierresmonte wondered how these Africans would feel about helping Europeans such as himself colonize their native continent. It was for the better, Pierresmonte thought, but it seemed some people didn't care for the settlers.

"Of course! We will most likely need to split Africa into certain claims, but i believe that most likely this plan will surely make for a peaceful Africa in the future."

The Kaiser raised his eyebrow for a moment, smiling slightly. He knew English quite well himself ... he was Victoria's grandson, but why was this man addressing him in a language that was neither man's first? Oh well, perhaps he did not know German.

'It has been Nordrreich's desire for a long time to link the East with the West. We were in negotiations with the Turks to build a railway from Berlin to Baghdad. We would like to make a similar proposal to you. If you agree, we may be able to see to it that the Turk does not raise his hand against you.'

Germany was increasingly the Ottoman's main trading partner and guarantor of continued existence. The Sultan would no doubt listen very carefully to the Kaiser. Then again, nobody could afford to discount him. Not even mighty Britannia, ruled over by his mother's mother. He loved Grandmother, but he would not slavishly act in her interests as his father had wanted to do. Fortunately, he had died before he could destroy the Empire.

OOC> I think I might just do this ... you all know who I am. Well, sort of. And furthermore, he didn't pick up on any thoughts, but as a good citizen of the Empire, he's already a bit antsy about Lightning Star, mainly due to its position.

Johann Ritter had not expected to see an African as the emissary for Lightning Star. However, he intended to put all of that aside for the sake of diplomacy.

'There was slavery on the continent until recently in the Confederate States, but that has all been corrected. As you may well know, Britain was a world leader in ending the global slave trade.'

'And we, of course, banned the practice some time ago, holding the rights of every man, woman, and child sacred...or something to that effect...'

Mossbacher, who was standing over by the buffet table after a short exchange of pleasantries with the Kaiser, listened with interest the exchange amongst the powers discussing carving up Africa much the same way the waiter was carving up the joint of beef behind him.

Slavery was no longer legal in his country, but only because of the violent fighting in the CSA after the War of Southern Independence. Having never been a slave holder himself, and knowing few negros, he hadn't really thought about them most of his life. He knew one thing though, the 9th and 10th Cavalry (Negro) had fought very well in the Comanche War. The colored soldiers that the Yankees had recruited for the War had fought Bedford Forrest hard too, and only the Confederate governments final decision to end slavery for the children of slaves and allowing slaves to buy their way out and ensuring that they could had made the ending of slavery realistic in the old South. His own government had simply refused to enforce slave catching laws and passed laws preventing the use of force in their recapture. That by itself had pretty much ended the institution, along with some help from some organizations from the North and England which came up with money to reimburse slaveowners. It had prevented the chaos that had occured in the South, but only just.

He had heard reports about the Zulu Wars too, and from what he had read, the African leader Shaka Zulu had been Africa's equivilant to Napoleon or Caeser.

The joint of beef that was Africa might not sit still for being carved up.

The President paused for a minute, pleased that the Kaiser had chosen also to speak in English as he had less than complete confidence in his interpreter, "Your highness, whilst I would welcome any proposal that would improve transport and therefore trade between your nation and mine, it would depend on whether the Sultan would be willing to allow passage through his country to ours. Personally I find Sultan Abdulhamid II to be a most disagreeable man but I still maintain the greatest respect for the Turks. Knowing of your close ties to Istanbul, I would like to remind you that I was a proud servant of Sultan Abdulaziz who appointed me as governor of Baghdad to enact reforms (the tanzimat). Unfortunately after he died (1876), I could not allow myself and my people would not allow for the 'Reconquest' of our lands which had been given a fair degree of home rule. It is thus that with great regret we felt the need to be independant.

"In light of this, we would be very gracious should your government attempt to quell the anger of His Majesty the Sultan so we can prevent any further violence between The Ottoman Empire and Elias. If you were to do this, then the prospect of a Berlin-Baghad raliway would be feasible, provided that Germany is willing to assist as far as materials and engineering, obviously in return for tradeable goods."

Nordrreich IC Post:

The Kaiser nodded, and then looked the President squarely in the eye.

'The Sultan seemed willing enough before. In fact, there were plans already laid out. I expect that he will keep to his word. As for your nation, I shall make it perfectly clear that I will not support any ambitions the Sultan has in reconquering it.

As for the details of the railroad, we will be capable of providing the capital and much of the raw materials. Our railway engineers have become very familiar with the topography of the region. Unless there is a shortage, we would prefer to use local labour, however.'

He took a glass of wine from the table and gave it a thoughtful sip. After a moment of contemplation, he turned again to the President with a small smile.

'It's really an insane idea, isn't it? A conference for the world. By the time we're done here, the status quo for the next forty years may be set. As soon as I am able, I shall send an official document recognizing your independence to the Sultan. I don't think I'm boasting when I say that his attitude to you might change rather rapidly.'

Prime Minister Johann Ritter approached Mossbacher, offering a friendly greeting in English. Ritter had been raised in a German-speaking household, but his father had made sure he was effectively bilingual since he was seven, and now he could speak French as well. His knack for languages had allowed him to win the last national election only a few months ago.

'Ambassador ... may I have a word for you? I think perhaps it is time our friendly association became a little more concrete. You may have noticed that we seem to be drifting into two camps.'

Mossbacher returned the greeting in English, deciding that Ritters English was much better than his German.

"It would seem they are dividing Africa between them at least. As long as they don't decide to divide up the Americas, I have no compliant.

But it is a pleasure to meet with you. Indeed, our countries have things to discuss. We are always looking for markets for our cotton, beef and wheat, and your nation produces things we need. Perhaps a favorable trade relationship between ourselves would be useful to both of us?

In addition to that, perhaps emigrants from your country would be interested inTexas as well?"

OOC> Right now, British Hannover's main exports are wheat and timber. Although there's an increasing industrial sector (although still small by comparison to say, Britain or Germany) and extraction of all sorts of mineral goodies.

Ritter couldn't help but laugh slightly at the mention of emigrants. People didn't leave British Hannover ... they entered it at a rate of 150,000 a year and climbing dramatically. They came mostly from the United Kingdom and German-speaking areas, but increasingly from Eastern Europe. When the Pacific railroad was completed, it was hoped that the landless pesants of Europe would flock to the enormous empty lands of the West.

'I shall be sure to tell any emigrants I see. But yes, I think trade between our two nations would be advantageous. We are in considerable need of cotton for our increasingly important textile industries in particular. Britain, of course, has a seemingly unlimited need for cattle and wheat, although we're rather more than self-sufficient in it ourselves.

As for the business of European interference in the Americas, I would also like them to stay out. Britain's interests are in the maintenence of independent nations in the Americas. France can probably be convinced to accept Britain's position on the matter. But Nordrreich ... I don't trust the Kaiser. He's a very ambitious man, and very interested in making Nordrreich a global power, not just a European one.

He's also very good at finding suitable allies. He's already got a pact with the tsar and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes very friendly with the United States. The US is powerful, humiliated and bitter. It is also excluded from the club of established powers. Nordrreich knows well what that feels like and Friedrich can exploit it.

I'm probably going to find it necessary to increase our military spending. I also think we should sign that mutual defence treaty we've been talking about.'

Alright, ive made the first run-off thread. It, as you can tell, has to do with pirates, and it will be VVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRYYYYYY interesting!

Here it is: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7327701#post7327701

OOC> Right now, British Hannover's main exports are wheat and timber. Although there's an increasing industrial sector (although still small by comparison to say, Britain or Germany) and extraction of all sorts of mineral goodies.

Ritter couldn't help but laugh slightly at the mention of emigrants. People didn't leave British Hannover ... they entered it at a rate of 150,000 a year and climbing dramatically. They came mostly from the United Kingdom and German-speaking areas, but increasingly from Eastern Europe. When the Pacific railroad was completed, it was hoped that the landless pesants of Europe would flock to the enormous empty lands of the West.

'I shall be sure to tell any emigrants I see. But yes, I think trade between our two nations would be advantageous. We are in considerable need of cotton for our increasingly important textile industries in particular. Britain, of course, has a seemingly unlimited need for cattle and wheat, although we're rather more than self-sufficient in it ourselves.

As for the business of European interference in the Americas, I would also like them to stay out. Britain's interests are in the maintenence of independent nations in the Americas. France can probably be convinced to accept Britain's position on the matter. But Nordrreich ... I don't trust the Kaiser. He's a very ambitious man, and very interested in making Nordrreich a global power, not just a European one.

He's also very good at finding suitable allies. He's already got a pact with the tsar and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes very friendly with the United States. The US is powerful, humiliated and bitter. It is also excluded from the club of established powers. Nordrreich knows well what that feels like and Friedrich can exploit it.

I'm probably going to find it necessary to increase our military spending. I also think we should sign that mutual defence treaty we've been talking about.'

ooc
well that will teach me to answer a thread while at work and on the phone... I thought I was talking to Osterlich (the German name convinced me as well, oops)

Anyway, goals indicated would be those expressed to France and Austria

IC
Mossbacher agreed with what he was hearing. "My Secretary of State has given me full authority to negotiate such a treaty. Texas would need some help obtaining modern artillery and warships, preferably small steamships equipped with quick firing cannons and the new Whitehead torpedo tubes. Eventually we will need cruisers too, to replace our rather elderly ships.

But Texas does have one thing to offer the British Empire besides cattle, wheat and cotton. The Army is wanting to keep the experience level of our officers up to date, and since the British are frequently involved in some operation somewhere, the Republic of Texas is willing to provide a cavalry regiment and infantry regiment, perhaps even an infantry brigade, to work alongside the British or British Hannover troops.

ooc
Essentially a Texas version of the Ghurkhas but under Texas officers. Think of the Texans as a much like Australian or Boer troops. Excellent horsemen, ood shots, insanely brave, that kind of thing. And more reliable than Indian Sepoys (remember the Mutiny wasn't that long ago) and the qualities of the Australians haven't been seen yet (until 2nd Boer War comes along).

Pierresmonte heard of the Texan's wish. 'My nation contains the original factories that produce Mr. Whitehead's torpedoes. We have successfully modified them onto steamships, about 15 meters in length, which are quick, and can take down the mightiest battleship.' He picked up a glass of wine, took a sip, and shook his head slightly in disapproval.

'Perhaps we could negotiate a contract...?'

It was one of the few times Nadia cursed her beloved country’s lack of technology. Railroads were one of the few modern connivances the country had though the rails were mostly along the north western broader of Tellacar and belonged to Osterlich rather than Tellacar. No rail roads reached into the center of the country where the capital was, the only way to travel was by walking, horse, or carriage to the most local train station and thus made Speaker Zhukova and her delegates, late. It was something she didn’t need right now, being the only woman that would be showing up to the Conference as far as she could tell. With a hurried steps she rushed into the chambers, looking quite frazzled and out of place in the elegant dress she had purchased for the occasion that still weighed slightly on her soul. Her delegates convinced her that it wasn’t a good impression to wear the male clothing that she was used to, since it was simpler to move around in them and few in Tellacar questioned her or any other woman wearing pants or a suit. She wonder briefly why she was elected to being Speaker, or why did accepted this postion as she cooly looked at the others, seeking a seat.

OOC> Osterlich post

Chancellor Clemens von Kluck was getting increasingly worried about the unfolding events. Nordrreich had won an important diplomatic victory in essentially being allowed to proceed with their Berlin-to-Baghdad railroad. This would essentially give Nordrreich a critical trading advantage with the middle east. He also knew he would be pressured into having the railway connect through Vienna. He quickly gulped some brandy before considering what the Texan ambassador had said to him.

He was interested in the possibilities of trade with the Americas, but he doubted his country's ability to persue such interests. He had tried to expel defeatism from his thoughts ... but it didn't work. Everybody buzzed around the Dual Monarchy, waiting for it to collapse. If it wasn't Nordrreich, it was the tsar ... God protect us all, von Kluck thought.

Pierresmonte heard of the Texan's wish. 'My nation contains the original factories that produce Mr. Whitehead's torpedoes. We have successfully modified them onto steamships, about 15 meters in length, which are quick, and can take down the mightiest dreadnought.' He picked up a glass of wine, took a sip, and shook his head slightly in disapproval.

'Perhaps we could negotiate a contract...?'

Mossbacher was quick to leap on that opportunity. "Absolutely, and Texas has fond memories of the French Charge d'Affairs back in the First Republic (ooc of Texas) days. From what I understand your nation builds a fine steam torpedo boat as well."

ooc
The French built a lot of torpedo boats until they and the British figured out that their real enemy was likely to be Germany, not each other. By the way, nobody has Dreadnoughts yet (1906), but Battleships there are... some as big as 12000 tons (the size of a modern day Aegis Cruiser)

OOC: Oops. Right, battleships.

IC
"If I may say so without boasting. As for this agreement; Our need for cotton has declined somewhat..." Pierresmonte was about to say 'Since your War', but was not sure how that would be taken. "But it is still very much in demand."

Mossbacher talked for a while to British Hannover and the French and was pleased with how things were going. The backing of those two major powers would do much to keep the Yankees from getting ideas.

Although it wouldn't keep the Yankees from getting ideas about the Confederacy, the Pacific Coast or Sangre de Christo.

Nordrreich IC Post:

The Kaiser nodded, and then looked the President squarely in the eye.

'The Sultan seemed willing enough before. In fact, there were plans already laid out. I expect that he will keep to his word. As for your nation, I shall make it perfectly clear that I will not support any ambitions the Sultan has in reconquering it.

As for the details of the railroad, we will be capable of providing the capital and much of the raw materials. Our railway engineers have become very familiar with the topography of the region. Unless there is a shortage, we would prefer to use local labour, however.'

He took a glass of wine from the table and gave it a thoughtful sip. After a moment of contemplation, he turned again to the President with a small smile.

'It's really an insane idea, isn't it? A conference for the world. By the time we're done here, the status quo for the next forty years may be set. As soon as I am able, I shall send an official document recognizing your independence to the Sultan. I don't think I'm boasting when I say that his attitude to you might change rather rapidly.'


"Your highness, our nation would be most grateful, there are a couple issue I feel I must raise, however. Firstly that of the railway's ownership; in return for our government eventually repaying your investment in the form of tradeable goods, we would rather the section of railway in our nation to be owned by our government. Also, in addition to using local labour, we would like it very much if several of our civil engineers could be trained to design and construct railways as eventually we plan to link Basra and Baghdad."

OOC: Who exactly is RPing Britain?

OOC> That would be me, due to the inextricability of British Hannover from the Empire as a whole. And I am British Hannover, and Osterlich, or at least as long as there is one.

IC Post:

The Kaiser let Elias make his point. He seemed a more shrewd individual than most. In any case, he had no particular desire to dominate Elias politically, the economic benefits would be sufficient in themselves. In any case, the President would have a considerable debt of gratitude. But for now at least, he was willing to go along with the President's moderate conditions.

'Ownership of the railroad can indeed be transferred to you upon payment in either cash or kind, although more likely, as you've acknowledged, in goods. As for educating your engineers, we can most certainly do that, and open up our technical schools to worthy students from your nation.'

The President looked markedly more relaxed that when he had first arrived, originally fearing that many would be suspicious of this newcomer, maybe even hostile. "Your highness, thank you once again. It seems as though the first meeting of our respective nations has been mutually profitable." He bowed his head politely before seeking out a representative of The British Empire.

Alright, ive made the first run-off thread. It, as you can tell, has to do with pirates, and it will be VVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRYYYYYY interesting!

Here it is: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7327701#post7327701
ooc: PIRATES! I'm in! Expect the CWF Mercury to be showing up soon!

*bump*

OOC> I'll make a post soon, but supper beckons. And I want to find out who the IRL PM of Britain was. I think it was Gladstone, but I want to be sure.

It was Gladstone, Disraeli finished in 1874.

British Hannover IC Post:

Ambassador Smythe noticed the President from the new oriental nation of Elias. He went over to him and respectfully addressed the President.

'I noticed you coming towards the British delegation. Are you interested in coming to an arrangement of some sort?'

Philip Eulenberg was one of the most powerful men in the Reich, although hardly anyone knew of his real position. Quite apart from being the personal financial advisor to the monarch, he was also the chief of Imperial intelligence. He had succeeded in tapping virtually every major telegraph line in Europe.

He checked them personally from time to time. Usually, there was little of particular value to report. But one item did catch him like a broadside from a cruiser. A huge pirate fleet, with apparent Lightning Star assistence was attacking Aden. The transmission came from the governor of Aden himself. He rushed to tell his Kaiser of the developments.

“Does this place feel iniquitous to you, Madame Speaker?” A voice in Turkish asked softly.

Zhukova nodded curtly to one of her delegates, a young man of Ottoman birth, not much younger than she was. The woman, perhaps in her late 20s to very early 30s, also spoke in Turkish though not as easily. “Certainly, there is a bad feeling to it Levent. However I feel rather out of sync with the gentlemen here.” Her frozen gray gaze swept across the room, her eyes quickly judging who was here.

“I have no wish to expand our country, we do not have an quarrel nor we have notable resources they would know about.” She held her breath then, tapping her fingers on her crossed arm. She hated keeping things secret from the people, but the past few events that happened this month was something they had to keep silent about until they figured out what to do with the recently found mining veins. “Why the Kaiser sent us a invitation is highly in question in my mind right now.”

In the Lightning Starian Offices

"Sir! The attack on Aden is underway!" said one of the men to the general.
"How do you know? We havent recieved a telegram!"
"We tapped the Nordrreichan wires, sir! The British Governer of the Colony put out a distress signal!"
"DAMN!" shouted the General. " Alright men, lock the doors and windows! I want 5 armed guards at the end of the hallway leading towards these offices. Thankfully, this is the only office in this hallway, so we're safe."
"Sir, do you intend on disrupting the conference?"
"Of course not! However, those British Might. Always fought dirty, they have. Its a good thing i crought 20 shock troopers with me..."

OOC:
Actually I've just remembered, Disraeli won the election but lost in 1880 to Gladstone.

I've assumed that one of the reasons by nation exists is because Britain has provided considerable assistance in the form of military equipment, iron, coal etc as they would be keen to weaken the Turks, particulaly in The Middle East, so Britain is in fact an strong ally.

The President shook hands with the Ambassador, "Your Excellency, please convey my goodwishes to Her Majesty on behalf of a grateful nation, and also to The Prime Minister." The President barely drewbreath before continuing to business, "Today, I would like to propose a greater degree of co-operation in the middle-east region. Perhaps what would be mutually beneficial is if our vessels could be allowed to use The Suez Canal for say a heavily discounted fee? In return our Navy, now relatively powerful, thanks almost enitrely to your government's generosity, would increase its activity in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea, adding to the security of British merchant and line vessels. Another important issue is of the supply of coal, something we are increadingly requiring; and we would hope therefore the terms of our import agreement could be made more favourable, given the increase in quantity? ."

The Kaiser listened to his friend and his face set itself into a mask. To say that he was upset would be a critical understatement. While he did not always fawn over the best interests of Britain, he considered this to be an insult not only to Britain, but to civilization. To give support to pirates this late in the century? This was unacceptable behaviour. Utterly, absolutely abominable.

He sent couriers with messages to all of the other delegates. He sent another one to the offices in which Lightning Star was present. The delegates of every other nation present would recieve an urgent summons to the conference room. The Lighting Star delegate would recieve a message politely asking him and his staff that they had 24 hours to cease all hostilities or that they were hereby banished from the country.

It had taken the courier 20 minutes to convince the guards that he was not a British Spy/assassin, and finally he had reached the General. Upon recieving the request, the general said. "Well, number one, will we be able to participate in this 'Emergency meeting'. Number two, i have no control over Lightning Starian Foreign policy. Send this response to your higher ups and please come back with a response."

Could you please save these little events for AFTER the conference or OUTSIDE this thread, Lighting Star? You're just making many people irate and frustrated because you can't show patience and aggressively push the limits of the GM. Stop it.

Could you please save these little events for AFTER the conference or OUTSIDE this thread, Lighting Star? You're just making many people irate and frustrated because you can't show patience and aggressively push the limits of the GM. Stop it.

OOC; I put it OUTSIDE the thread, dunkof! What do you think my link was too, a French Birthday party :p?

Johann Ritter recieved the summons to an emergency meeting of the nations. When he found out why, he felt himself to be very unhappy indeed. It was one thing to fairly compete with Britain in trade, but to use pirates to support your interests? It was insanity at its peak. Simply barbarous. He went off to meet with the Kaiser. Although he had no love in his heart for the man, he knew that the interests of all civilized nations was to severly punish Lightning Star for its outrageous breach of international protocol.

This was 1880, not 1580. Pirates were scum, and Lightning Star had just made itself scum by association.

In the Lightning Starian Offices

"Sir! The attack on Aden is underway!" said one of the men to the general.
"How do you know? We havent recieved a telegram!"
"We tapped the Nordrreichan wires, sir! The British Governer of the Colony put out a distress signal!"
"DAMN!" shouted the General. " Alright men, lock the doors and windows! I want 5 armed guards at the end of the hallway leading towards these offices. Thankfully, this is the only office in this hallway, so we're safe."
"Sir, do you intend on disrupting the conference?"
"Of course not! However, those British Might. Always fought dirty, they have. Its a good thing i crought 20 shock troopers with me..."

The following was not outside of the theard. You brought in an event in a theard you created with an idea not common in the late 19th century.

Johann Ritter recieved the summons to an emergency meeting of the nations. When he found out why, he felt himself to be very unhappy indeed. It was one thing to fairly compete with Britain in trade, but to use pirates to support your interests? It was insanity at its peak. Simply barbarous. He went off to meet with the Kaiser. Although he had no love in his heart for the man, he knew that the interests of all civilized nations was to severly punish Lightning Star for its outrageous breach of international protocol.

This was 1880, not 1580. Pirates were scum, and Lightning Star had just made itself scum by association.

OOC: Well when your nations very existance is threatened by Pirates, the Italian Fleet, Boers, armies of Ethiopian kings, fueding Somali Warlords, Congolesse kings, and Arab raiders and your army isnt exactly large you need to be productive....

The following was not outside of the theard. You brought in an event in a theard you created with an idea not common in the late 19th century.

I didnt bring the thread in! Nordrreich did!

Besides, having a trading country that spanned the entire east african coast and WASN'T in an apartheid was a rare idea itself even in the 1970's!

OOC> I think she was referring to the situation with the shock troopers. And being insulting and sarcastic is no way to endear yourself to fellow RPers. Especially when that RPer happens to be a friend of mine. I suspect that you're missing the point of the RP. Which is to provide a sense of politics in the era. War is definitely a part of it, but it's not the only part or even the biggest part. I think I've been pretty accomodating, but this is not turning to what I had intended at all. Consider this a warning.

A dignified man requested Pierresmonte and his delegation go to the conference room. The reason for the immediate start of the meeting quite surprised him. Pirates? Barbarians. Lighting Star? As cruel as one might say their move was, Pierresmonte figured it wasn't one that woul pay off. Their glory days were coming to a close.

Pierresmonte drained the rest of his wine, reasoning it must be from Chersbourg, and strode off, not an emotion on his face.

OOC> I think she was referring to the situation with the shock troopers. And being insulting and sarcastic is no way to endear yourself to fellow RPers. Especially when that RPer happens to be a friend of mine. I suspect that you're missing the point of the RP. Which is to provide a sense of politics in the era. War is definitely a part of it, but it's not the only part or even the biggest part. I think I've been pretty accomodating, but this is not turning to what I had intended at all. Consider this a warning.

OOC: Fine.

But let me defend my posistion.

The British had a... habit of taking away enemy leaders which they didnt approve off. My general, a very important person, had brought 20 armed guards for his protection. He deemed his life to be in danger, and he acted accordingly. Im not going to start a fight, he just beefed up security.

BEsides, what was i supposed to do? He wouldnt just go "Oh, we invaded? How good! I think the british are going to try to assassinate me, but oh well!"

And how was i insulting? All i did was state that i was responding to something.

Agh.... i hate when this happens... I cant help it that i like xplosions alot :(.

OOC: Well when your nations very existance is threatened by Pirates, the Italian Fleet, Boers, armies of Ethiopian kings, fueding Somali Warlords, Congolesse kings, and Arab raiders and your army isnt exactly large you need to be productive....

OOC> That might be true, but it doesn't make it any less repugnant to the British or Germans.

Nordrreich IC Post:

The Kaiser watched as delegates began filtering in. He stopped for a moment when he saw the French president. Before he spoke to him, he ordered a courier to go back with the message to simply leave the Conference within 24 hours and tell their government to prepare for a full list of demands to be given to them, and if they don't fully satisfy them, to prepare for a likely war.

'Mr. Pierresmonte' he began, 'I know our two countries have been deeply opposed to each other and that there is no love lost between you and I. But I think we can both agree this barbarity can unite us both in moral outrage. I think all of us can agree on that point.'

OOC> That might be true, but it doesn't make it any less repugnant to the British or Germans.

Nordrreich IC Post:

The Kaiser watched as delegates began filtering in. He stopped for a moment when he saw the French president. Before he spoke to him, he ordered a courier to go back with the message to simply leave the Conference within 24 hours and tell their government to prepare for a full list of demands to be given to them, and if they don't fully satisfy them, to prepare for a likely war.

'Mr. Pierresmonte' he began, 'I know our two countries have been deeply opposed to each other and that there is no love lost between you and I. But I think we can both agree this barbarity can unite us both in moral outrage. I think all of us can agree on that point.'

OOC: I know, i was just defending myself. OF course the brists are gonna be angry, im threatening their precious india!

ANyhoo, the british commited FAR worse crimes...

Pirates? I can almost see a defensive reasoning for picary in times of war, but to be aggressive in a relative time of peace? What are they thinking of? The weak must be smarter and patient to fight giants. Zhukova thought sourly when she was n the news. Quietly she stood from where she was sitting and prepared to follow the courtier to the conference room.

OOC: You are not defending yourself. When the British attack your country, which they have NOT, then it will be considered an act of defense and not agression. If you like action, perhaps this is not the RP for you.

Pirates? I can almost see a defensive reasoning for picary in times of war, but to be aggressive in a relative time of peace? What are they thinking of? The weak must be smarter and patient to fight giants. Zhukova thought sourly when she was n the news. Quietly she stood from where she was sitting and prepared to follow the courtier to the conference room.

OOC: You are not defending yourself. When the British attack your country, which they have NOT, then it will be considered an act of defense and not agression. If you like action, perhaps this is not the RP for you.

OOC: Im rping my country! As stated(in the other thread and in conversations with Nodrreich), These people have expansionists ideals and, unfortunatly, arent very smart. If you must know, theres going to be a coup d' etat that overthrows the president and ends the war, and in reconciliation we give the British Somalia and southern Ethiopia, plus we destroy the pirate ships docked in our nation...

"Indeed, sir." replied Pierresmonte to the Kaiser. "For this, we should set aside our differences and help seek a mediation, if possible, for all involved."

Only now did the Prime Minister begin to think of what the situation could really mean. If these pirates won the day, to where would the go next? Could the shores of Algeria be next? France? Well, that one, he doubted. Yet still, it offered an unsettling thought.

OOC: Jeez, you do something unexpected that forces people to go deep into their inner-minds to figure out a solution and people get pissed off.

IC:

The Konigstadt Conference Building

Before leaving the country, the General pulled aside one of the Nordrreichian advisors to give him a message. "Please, tell your Kaiser that i do not support this and i am going to Maputo this instant to try to convince the president that this was a bad move. I have...friends in very high places and i will try to end this conflict ASAP. That is all."

The General and his men soon were on a ship bearing a white-flag towards The Lightning Star. They were going to take the Suez route due to the fact that it was a neccesisty if they were to arrive on time.

IC Post:

Johann Ritter spoke up.

'A mediation would be in all of our favors, but I do not know if it will be sufficient. I'm not known as an aggressive man, but if they don't immediately cease this ridiculous behaviour, I believe there should be no recourse other than military action.'

OOC: Sorry if this isnt a good post, its hard to write something good while translating an 8-bit theatre comic into spanish.

IC:

In the Capital of Maputo

In the telegram office of the department of State, the man on duty recieved a dreadful telegram. He quickly ran down the hallway to the secretary of states office. "Sir Sir! The konigstadt conference has expeled our delegate! They are deciding whether to attack us!"
"E-GADS! If that were to happen teh results would be catostrophic! We must consult the president."

In the Presidents office

"...NO I TELL YOU! Im not going to give in to the europeans! They have ruled us for too long! Besides, if we give in they'll surely conquer us!" said the president when the secretary of state told him he should cease hostilities.
"But sir! If we don't stop now, we are all going to DIE!"responded the secretary.
"THEN SO BE IT! I will not give in to these Europeans, Americans, and of all things turks! We shall stand up for Africa, i say!"
"BUT SIR! If we dont surrender, ALL SHALL BE LOST! All of our many gains, gone! The ENTIRE continent shall be enslaved!"
"It will be the same if we surrender, except for if we FIGHT, we shall give a role-model to the rest of the world that the Europeans can be stopped!"
"I guess there is no convincing you, sir. Expect my letter of resignation on your desk shortly."

OOC: SOrry if i put something so far away here, but its really important. The next post or the one after will see the end of all hostilities. I didnt want to make another thread for two posts :/

Mossbacher watched with interest the events of the day. "Looks like another punative expedition for the Royal Navy and something to give all those troops in South Africa something to do after they finish off the Zulus." he thought to himself.

"Although if the British leave Chelmesford in command, the Starians might just win."

ooc
Chelmesford was in command of the overall British force when it suffered a major disaster in 1879 at Isandlwana

IC
He walked over to Ritter and casually mentioned that the Texas Army was outfitting a couple of regiments of veterans for overseas service, veterans who just recently finished off the Comanches. Perhaps the Empire would like the services of a couple of good regiments?

OOC
my response to all of this is in the sign up thread by the way

Johann Ritter noticed the casual mention ... while it was hardly a casual matter, he felt that it was a worthwhile offer.

'I'm sure that I can arrange something. Britain is always in need of good troops. One can't win a war with ships alone.'

Mossbacher replied "It would certainly help to cement the proposed treaty."

OOC: please check the OOC thread

Ritter agreed. 'I fully agree. Hopefully we can extend this treaty to the other American nations.'

The delegation from the Russian Empire has finally made it to the conference table after having the entire delegation bedridden since the start of the conference with an obscure tropical disease.

The official Imperial Ambassador Josef Suhkov entered the conference room still weak from his illness. He imediately scanned the room to see who had attended and began to acertain the current state of affairs.

Wilhelm Hendrickson ran his hand through his hair. Reading the telegram, he wasn't sure if he should be shocked, depressed, outraged, or gleeful.
The ship that had dropped of the Whutehfeckian delegation at the shore in Nordrreich had taken a long route home through the Mediterranean, and had just passed through the Suez when it came upon the attack on Aden. The captain of the ship, not knowing of the new diplomatic leanings towards Nordrreich and against the British, charged headlong into the battle and valiantly sank a few of the ships. She then had a shot hit her square into the engine room, sinking the whole thing. Some of the crew escaped, but most died. Several things came to him with this telegram:
-One, communications needed improvement. He had found out the British, Nordrreichans, and just about every other delegation had already heard about it. That required fixing.
-Two, he could now try to be friendly with the British again, thanks to that captain.
-Three, the Whutehfeckian Navy was in good condition. Truly, the ships they purchased with money from the Magellan trade were top of the line. (Damn! It downed three ships before it went under? Mother of Christ that's good!)
-Four, some Boers were mentioned in the report. Perhaps an alliance with them was less likely now.

He immeadiately went to work. First: see if some sort of assistance could be lent to the British. He headed off to them straight away.

Johann Ritter walked out of the meeting for a moment, and then noticed the Whutehfeckian ambassador. He approached him, shaking his hand warmly.

'I believe I speak for all of the British Empire when I applaud the brave sacrifice of your vessel. Perhaps this gesture could be taken as a sign of improved relations between our nations?'

Johann Ritter walked out of the meeting for a moment, and then noticed the Whutehfeckian ambassador. He approached him, shaking his hand warmly.

'I believe I speak for all of the British Empire when I applaud the brave sacrifice of your vessel. Perhaps this gesture could be taken as a sign of improved relations between our nations?'
"Yes, I do hope this can be changed into a turn for the better between our two nations," replied Hendrickson, "Perhaps we could discuss the details later. For now, one issue concerns me: What is to be done about Lightning Star?"

British Hannover IC Post:

Johann Ritter nodded. 'You can be assured, the British Empire does not take this lightly. This is an act of war. If they do not immediately cease hostilities and agree to reparations ... we shall have to defend our interests.'

OOC> The Russian Tsar and German (Nordrreich) Kaiser were, in fact, first cousins. And Queen Victoria is their grandmother. European royalty is frighteningly imbred ... :eek:

Nordrreich IC Post:

The Kaiser noticed the Russian ambassador. He had heard of their illness ... he had no idea what had caused it. Perhaps it had spread from their campaigns in the Caucasus somehow?

'Greetings, Ambassador!' He shook the Russian diplomat's hand heartily. 'Tell me, how is the Tsar these days? I think of Nicky often. I shall have to invite him to one of my estates sometime soon.'

Friedrich II's tone turned more serious. 'He and I have much to talk about. I think a renewal and extension of the Two Emperor's Pact would be advisable.'

Speaking to the others in the conference room, Pierresmonte said, "I suppose, yes, mediation may be beyond the question. If that is so, and conditions do not improve, France will help take action."

Now, France's stakes were looming large in his mind. No matter those Brits in Aden, Pierresmonte knew pirates would not be good news for his nation.

((OOC: I've decided to make him a bit cold. I dunno why.))

OOC> Personality is a good thing. I hope I've successfully established mine.

The British Ambassador nodded.

'Any assistance that you could give would be appreciated, although ships would be ideal. I think the presence of more than one nation will give our cause much more credibility. This is about more than Aden ... this is about keeping the seas safe from pirates. No state should assist the scum of the Seven Seas.'

"Of course Kaiser we would be more than willing to extend the Two Emperors Pact, we have some ideas of course but let us hear your propositions first." said Sukhov

“The Republic of Tellacar cannot promise we can send help, it is beyond our resources to actively participate in defense. However, we shall not harbor these said rogues if they come to call on our ports.” Zhurova said quietly in English, her hands folded over her lap, her gaze staring at everything or nothing. She was uncomfortable around someone from her old homelands, most Tellacarians who were born outside the country normally were. Her accent was faint, and rather strange though it sounded Russian in most respects.

OOC: i cant participate till Aden burns down, because then my president is gonna be assassinated and then were gonna negotiate some sort of peace with the U.K.

The British Ambassador was quite aware of Tellacar's military weakness and its socialist nature. He never liked the country much personally but he knew Zhukova could say nothing else. He liked to think of himself as relatively tolerant of views other than his own, even ones as radical as theirs.

'Of course. Your diplomatic support would be welcome of course.'

The Kaiser smiled.

'I think we can come to a mutually satisfactory arrangement regarding Europe and the Middle East. As for the moment, I would like diplomatic support from Russia regarding certain African and Pacific territories.'

The Kaiser circled certain areas on a map. 'The area of the Congo river valley, the territories between British Ghana and Nigeria (ie, Benin/Togo) and New Guinea and the Pacific Islands near it.'

A British courier went to the Lighting Star offices, seeking a private audience with a delegate from Lighting Star. It regarded the peace settlement. The British needed to be assured that such unacceptable behaviour never happened again.

"Russia will gladly give our support to our German cousins as we have no interests in those areas. Besides, what is good for Germany is good for Russia, neh? As a further sign of goodwill towards you good Kaiser I have been authorized to lower tariffs on imports of your fine German machinery by 10%. I feel that we may be on the verge of a new era in Russo-German relations."

The Kaiser heard this and was pleased. The industrializing Russians were an excellent place for German industrialists to sell their machine tools to. Because he was the monarch, he needed no authorization.

'I am pleased to hear this, and am sure our captains of industry will also be delighted. In return, I propose that all duties on grain imports be removed. This will also have the beneficial effect of lowering food prices in Germany and increasing the prosperity of our workers. I would also like to negotiate a lowering of tariffs on all other agricultural products and many industrial raw materials.'

Ambassador Suhkov stood for the first time in the conference room and began to speak; "Having been informed of the action of The Lightning Star I offer the following proclamation: The Russian Empire condemns The Lightning Star actions and the use of pirates as uncivilized. Ours is a changing world and such relics of the past must be stamped out immediately. We shall offer our support to Britain and her allies in ensuring that these actions are not repeated, using any means necessary."

Mossbacher watched everything with interest, the analogy of the carved roast still in his mind as the Russians and Germans began carving up Africa and the Pacific. Somehow he didn't think the British would be too keen on the Germans acquiring colonies near Australia, but all he knew about the area was that it was on the map and nothing more.

(ooc.. Papua, YUCK.. the Germans are going for all the really fun disease ridden areas like they did historically... but then those were the left over crumbs after the other Imperialists did their land grab).

He suspected California wouldn't care, it had Alaska, the Pacific Northwest and a vast amount of resources at least in western Oregon and Washington.

Not his problem he decided.

Africa though, that was a place for his army to maintain hardwon experience and train up officers in case a fight came with the Yankees.

"The Republic of Texas is of course firmly behind the British in this manner." he announced to all, "Naturally we are ready to help stamp out piracy. We are planning to send troops to assist the British in their campaign against these upstart Africans. We will send a cruiser as well. Sad to say, that is the best we can do, but when a neighbors barn is on fire, you have to lend him a hand." (ooc, spoken with my best Texas drawl, we don't want the Europeans thinking we sophisticated now do we)

President Elias rose to the lectern, addressing the entire conference in a keynote address. His speech might ruffle some feathers but he had been careful enough not to offend anyone more than necessary and so far in the conference had tried to endear himself to the Europeans.

"In a single instant, I realized today, that this will be a decisive decade in the history of liberty, that we've been called to a unique role in human events. Rarely has the world faced a choice more clear or consequential, as today we have reached a critical imbalance. More than half the world's territory is owned by Europeans, but now, as is so clear with this latest incident in Aden, Pax Britannia has failed. Today, I notice that again far away places that we know little or nothing about are being carved up, rather like a cake of known size but of unknown flavour. It seems that now a nation is faced with a decision, in the words of Julius Caesar, "Vincere Aut Mori", Conquer or Die. This sums up the decision in three words, that a nation either has to strengthen by expansion or face being consumed by another.

"To the strong nations of the world, to the British, to the Germans, to The Russians, to The French, this idea is seemingly advantageous as you are both stronger and more advanced civilisations than any you desire to rule. There is one fundamental problem with this however, and as The Great Ottoman Sultans have learnt, all Empires collapse, whether it be in a decade or a century, all empires are doomed to failure as a basic and ugly human instinct takes over, greed. This is not a threat, but a warning from a nation who has broken the shackles of Empire, the right of self-defense never ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals.

"The right of resisting oppression is a natural right and in my opinion one can only rule by the consent of the people or by fear. However fear breeds hate, and hate breeds revolution. My message to the civilised nations of the world is therefore to civilise, not to conquer, to spread liberty, not to repress it. Our nation can bear testament to the fact that European Powers have much to offer the world, a chance to modernise, to industrialise and to prosper, and I ask all of you, all of us, to affirm the freedom and the dignity of every life. By freedom gained, by truth maintained, thine Empires shall be strong."

OOC> New Guinea is a nasty place ... the Germans essentially want it as a naval base for when they start building up their navy. The Benin/Togo colony isn't terribly valuable. It's the Congo that they're really after.

Johann Ritter clapped politely for President Elias, although he was too much a pragmatic man to believe that Britain, or Germany or the other Great Powers would not see to it that they made a smashing profit in the meantime. While it may be true that all empires must fall, he doubted that time would come soon for any of the modern Great Powers. Germany was only nine years old, Russia and France were reforming themselves and Elias had overestimated the long-term significance of the Aden Incident. It was a warning sign, certainly, an indication that Britain could no longer afford complacency. But not really a sign of the Empire's imminient fall.

As the others reacted around him, he figured that, generally speaking, the attitude of the others would be to applaud, praise his eloquence and casually ignore him. After all, at least in the minds of the delegates, he wasn't worth listening to because he wasn't European.

President Hendrickson appluaded for President Elias, although he frowned within, as his country practically ran on greed. Trade was the driving force behind the country, and the country consumed so much, it is only a matter of time.
Shaking his head, he walked out of the hall to his offices.

As he was just sitting down, an assistant came in. "Sir, the captain of that ship-- the Mercury- is here now."
"Good, show him in, will you?"

The captain strode into the room. He seemed somewhat overly alert, which was understandable, considering where he was just a short while ago.
Sticking out his right hand, Wilhelm attemped to make the first courtesy. The captain, appearently, somehow frowned on this, and as the President looked to the captain's hand, he realized it wasn't there anymore. Amputated. Somewhat abashed, the President tried vocally instead. "Aheh, greetings Captain... or should I say Admiral?"
Franz Groppeitz looked surprised. "Why, thank you, Mr. President!" he gleefully replied. "What is it you called me in for?"
"Besides that? I mainly want a personal account of the Aden incident, and any other things related to it that be important to know, militarily and politically."
"All of it, Mr. President? Well, then you'd better sit down; this could take some time..."

Pierresmonte politely clapped, and then spoke aloud. "I am in, euh, full agreeance. Empires always fall. Which is why we have long since shed those ideas."

The Prime Minister's thoughts went immediately to Algeria, and the 1832 Parliament commission that reported France's invasion of Algeria failed in planning, execution, and behavior, but reccomended she stay to preserve national prestige.

Zhurova clapped politely, though her mind was somewhere else. The speech was well taken, and had good intentions. She could not deny the president this. As her gaze monetarily swept over the other leaders in the room, the only woman found it very hard to believe world powers could do such things. Hubris, greed, and power, she could practically smell those sins there among others. No, cultures would be crushed and ‘liberty’ would be forced onto people, poisoning the very meaning of it. She decided she would have to be on the defensive.

The Kaiser sat silently, taking this all in. He then applauded with seeming sincerity, although he was already considering long-range plans for the Reich. The President of Elias seemed to be an idealist. Friedrich II had his own ideals, but they involved imperial glory. He would play nice with Elias for now. All of this, however, was reinforcing the necessity of his plans to build up Nordrreich's navy.

He stood up after the speech by Elias and, ignoring a cramp in his left arm, put up a map of Africa in front of all of them. He then drew out in exacting detail all current European possessions in Africa, and the major regions of exploration. He then drew in all the claims that European powers had/desired to make, and made special note of any conflicts.

'Gentlemen, this is the map of Africa.' The Kaiser began. 'We are to assume responsibilities for the civilizing of certain areas. Let's be civil, gentlemen, I would hate for another unfortunate incident to occur.'

The British Ambassador was rather surprised by the Kaiser's directness. While an ability to cut through politesse and get to the point of the matter was perhaps an admirable characteristic in theory, perhaps he was being a bit brazen. Still, he knew that this was the real point of the conference. The Lightning Starian delegate had not sent back a comfirmation of surrender yet. If he did not, he might have to persuade him to do so.

"Coming through! Coming through! Make way! MAAKE WAY!!!" said the Lightning Starian delegate as he ran into the conference building. "Late late late late late! How could i be so LLLAAATTTEE?!?!?!?!" he said to himself. "Stupid steam-boat. Well, at least i got the last ship to leave from Somalia..."
"Uhhh sir? You, um, forgot your pants..." said one of the men by the door in the most respectful manner possible.
"$@*#!" swore the delegate and then he turned around to run back down the street to the hotel at which he was staying.

OOC: Sorry im late, i feel horrid. But the show must go on!

OOC> Attached is the map of the Kaiser's proposed colonial division of Africa.

OOC> Attached is the map of the Kaiser's proposed colonial division of Africa.

OOC: As they say in Britain...

"We are not amused!"

OOC> This is for Southeast Asia. And at least Lightning Star wasn't dismembered. Which indicates that the Kaiser's anger towards your nation was transitory. Which is good for you in the long run.

The British courier was sent to find the Lightining Starian delegate with terms of surrender.

Obligations of Lightning Star:
1.) That Lightning Star disavow all connections to pirates and destroy all the pirate havens in its territories. It must henceforth fully obey the Law of the Sea.
2.) That Lightning Star provide the monies required to rebuild the fortress of Aden and, as far as it is capable, the materials to do so.
3.) That Lightning Star evacuate the territories of Somaliland and Southern Abyssinia. (Somalia and Southern Ethiopia, as we agreed)
4.) That Lighting Star will content itself with its remaining territories henceforth.

Obligations of Britain:
1.) Britain shall recognize and uphold the independence of Lightning Star as a nation not subject to European colonization or dominance.
2.) Britain shall guarantee the integrity of Lightning Star's core territories as long as Lightning Star upholds the conditions of this treaty.

OOC> This is for Southeast Asia. And at least Lightning Star wasn't dismembered. Which indicates that the Kaiser's anger towards your nation was transitory. Which is good for you in the long run.

The British courier was sent to find the Lightining Starian delegate with terms of surrender.

Obligations of Lightning Star:
1.) That Lightning Star disavow all connections to pirates and destroy all the pirate havens in its territories. It must henceforth fully obey the Law of the Sea.
2.) That Lightning Star provide the monies required to rebuild the fortress of Aden and, as far as it is capable, the materials to do so.
3.) That Lightning Star evacuate the territories of Somaliland and Southern Abyssinia. (Somalia and Southern Ethiopia, as we agreed)
4.) That Lighting Star will content itself with its remaining territories henceforth.

Obligations of Britain:
1.) Britain shall recognize and uphold the independence of Lightning Star as a nation not subject to European colonization or dominance.
2.) Britain shall guarantee the integrity of Lightning Star's core territories as long as Lightning Star upholds the conditions of this treaty.


OOC: Of course, you know, number 4 has a snowballs chance in HELL that it will be upheld for a long time ;).

IC:

The delegate looked over the treaty thrice, and then once more to be sure he got everything. This was something he learned from his teacher, who had negotiated the taking of Somaliland and Southern Abyssina, bless his soul. If he were alive today, his heart would be broken. Little more than 20 years after it had been taken, it was too be given to these europeans. "Well, it is better than losing everything..." he said under his breath.
"Excuse me?" said the British Courier.
"Nothing!" replied the Lightning Starian delegate."I guess we have no choice but to accept. I shall wire Maputo immediatly.

OOC: who is what color on the map?

OOC: who is what color on the map?

OOC: All i know is that im green :D

OOC:
African Map:
Blue- France
Red- Britain
Olive- Portugal
Dark Grey/Almost Black- Nordrreich
Light Green- Lightning Star
Grey- Independent Nation
Purple- Italy

Southeast Asian Map:
Red- Britain
Grey- Independent Nations
Purple- Netherlands
Orange- Spain
Dark Grey- Germany

Europe Map coming!

Britain IC Post:

The British Ambassador heard of Lightning Star's acceptance of the terms. Once the pirates were duly exterminated, the fleet could return to Portsmouth. He would remember to keep close watch on Lightning Star, however. They had proven to be most unstable elements.

OOC:
African Map:
Blue- France
Red- Britain
Olive- Portugal
Dark Grey/Almost Black- Nordrreich
Light Green- Lightning Star
Grey- Independent Nation
Purple- Italy

Southeast Asian Map:
Red- Britain
Grey- Independent Nations
Purple- Netherlands
Orange- Spain
Dark Grey- Germany

Europe Map coming!

Britain IC Post:

The British Ambassador heard of Lightning Star's acceptance of the terms. Once the pirates were duly exterminated, the fleet could return to Portsmouth. He would remember to keep close watch on Lightning Star, however. They had proven to be most unstable elements.


Ic: The Lightning Starian Delegate sent his courier to the British ambassador with information on the whereabouts of the Pirate fleet. It read.

Most of the pirates are in Aden as of the moment, and our scouts have discovered that they have heavily fortified the city with many cannon and men. There are 62 battleships, as well as around 200 small(as in 8-15 foot boats) boats patrolling the waters. We estimate the fort is guarded by around 40,000 pirates who, while they are cowardly, if they are forced into a corner(which they most-likely will be) will fight like demons. If you would like, we have information on the pirates and their vessels that could be of use to you. All you have to do is ask..

"Of course, I shall have to bring the proposal back home for review," said Pierresmonte, "But I think it sounds quite good."

OOC> We're a bit behind, so do you mind if we just sort of RP-assume the Royal Navy clears out the pirates? There's going to be plenty of stuff coming up, I assure you. :) If not, we can revive the pirate thread.

Nordrreich IC Post:

'Of course, of course.' The Kaiser granted Pierresmonte an ingratiating smile. 'This arrangement is open to debate, but I believe it is a satisfactory status quo.'

OOC> We're a bit behind, so do you mind if we just sort of RP-assume the Royal Navy clears out the pirates? There's going to be plenty of stuff coming up, I assure you. :) If not, we can revive the pirate thread.

Nordrreich IC Post:

'Of course, of course.' The Kaiser granted Pierresmonte an ingratiating smile. 'This arrangement is open to debate, but I believe it is a satisfactory status quo.'

OOC: Mmmmkay.

There are still gonna be alot of dead pirates, british people, and friends of british people tho :).

“You’re insane, Tenjou-sama.” Grumbled one of the diplomats behind Tenjou. “Do you truly suspect they’ll even listen to us?”

“Of course not,” A petite Asian woman said brightly, looking over her shoulder at the man who had spoken to her, smiling. The other diplomats with her seemed uncomfortable in their western dress though Tenjou Sezume walked easily in her boots and clothing. It was only two years ago that Sezume had graduated from Munich University, something her parents were shamed of though her cousin had been quite proud of her. Her intelligence and her cousin had brought the young woman, not yet 25, into prominence in Hizashi’s new government where she had been appointed as a stateswoman.

Due to her ability to speak three languages (Japanese, English, and German) and her familiarity with Western ways, the Emperor (pressured by his wife, Sezume’s cousin) placed her in a position that dealt with foreign relations. “But we are taking first steps, we cannot allow stagnation to occur because we are fearful. They’re truly not so bad, a bit prudish, but not so bad. Being there means we are arriving to the challenges of the future.” And being there made it a little bit harder for them to carve out Asia as well…

The Hizashi delegation swept into the conference room with the small Sezume walking proudly into the table and taking an open seat. She bowed her head to them all as her short apology in order not to interrupt. It wasn’t as if Tenjou wasn’t polite, in politics one had to be a bit brazen than what is proper at home. She did, however, speak softly in English to the British delegate. “We just heard about Aden, speaking for the Emperor, Hizashi grieves and offers what help it can.” She leaned away as a sign she would speak to him later.

The Russian ambassador eyed the Hazshian delegate with suspicion, Russia had hopes of eventually extending the empire into eastern asian and Hazashi could pose a threat to those aspirations. Suhkov sat back and decided wait and see the Hazashian position.

OOC: is it okay if i we call you Japan?

New Thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=369315

General Lopez Montoya, the representative of "El Imperio Colombino del Cangrejo", otherwise known as Columbia, entered the room flanked by his aides. Although there was another, and much more powerful, Great Power from the Americas here, he was certain he could leave a sizeable mark on the conference. He had no doubt in his mind that Columbia and British Hannover would go head-to-head in some issue over the Americas, and he was too try to weaken the Canadians as much as possible if that were to occur.

OOC: As you know, Nordrreich is alowing a country to have two nations, and since TLS ISNT a great power, this one is.

OOC New Shiron will be the Americans, and Galveston Bay will be the Texans to hopefully prevent confusion

IC
Ambassador Josiah Stewart Chamberlain entered the conference. There had been considerable confusion as to his directions, what with the election just being over and all, and Blaine and Tilden had been forced to reach an agreement so that the US would be represented at all.

But his instructions were specific. Ensure that US interests are not threatened and the Europeans remember the Monroe Doctrine.

The British Ambassador noticed the entry of the Columbian delegation into the conference. He approached them politely as he had an idea. There had been talk of a canal in Panama for years and he thought that the British interests would be well served by it. He gave them a polite greeting in Spanish and informed them on some of the events of the Conference, omitting the unfortunate Aden Incident, although he would doubtlessly hear of it.

The Kaiser noticed the American delegation immediately and went over to introduce himself, heartily shaking the American ambassador's hand. He spoke in excellent English, although there was a moderate German accent. Friedrich II said that he had always wanted to establish meaningful relations with the Untied States and that there was much he believed the two countries could accomplish together.

The British Ambassador noticed the entry of the Columbian delegation into the conference. He approached them politely as he had an idea. There had been talk of a canal in Panama for years and he thought that the British interests would be well served by it. He gave them a polite greeting in Spanish and informed them on some of the events of the Conference, omitting the unfortunate Aden Incident, although he would doubtlessly hear of it.

"Hmmmm... I see, i see." replied the Columbian Delegate as the British Ambassador filled him in on the details. "What can you tell me of these other nations, With Texas in particular. They are very close to Honduras Colombino(Columbian Honduras), so we wish to know more."

Pierresmonte glanced at the Columbian delegate, and his thoughts turned to Panama. France's sucess in Suez had encouraged firms to look into the possibilty of constructing a canal that would connect the Atlantic and Pacific. If we can conquer the desert, so can we the jungle. It seemed, however, a Briton had already gotten to the South American.

Pierresmonte approached the newly-arrived Hizashian delegate, and wagered on English.

"Greetings, madame. I am representing France at this conference. How do you fare?"

The Kaiser noticed the American delegation immediately and went over to introduce himself, heartily shaking the American ambassador's hand. He spoke in excellent English, although there was a moderate German accent. Friedrich II said that he had always wanted to establish meaningful relations with the Untied States and that there was much he believed the two countries could accomplish together.

Chamberlain, who had just been quickly filled in by his assistant John Hay (who was the former chief secretary to President Lincoln and had helped draft the Treaty of Hampton Roads), bowed politely to the Kaiser and exchanged pleasantries in perfect Berlin German (ooc.. Chamberlain is one of those brilliant linguists, who also as it happens was an amazingly gifted ametuer soldier in the Civil War, and a Congressional Medal of Honer winner, which he would be wearing at the conference to remind everyone that the US could fight... featured prominently in the movie Gettysburg by the way)

"The United States is always interested in maintaining good ties with the nations of Europe."

Well, the Germans approached him first, so might as well listen to what they have to say he decided. He noticed the Texans were here, and made a mental note to talk to them, as well as the British and British Hannover. The US Navy had a long working relationship with the British around the world, and the US Navy had helped the British out of some spots in places, just as the RN had helped out Americans in others. An informal relationship, but a good one. No doubt Blaine, who wanted the US to become more active in the world, would order the East Indies Squadron and Africa Squadrons to help the British. Tilden would have to agree, as he was the lame duck.

Of course he would have to talk to all the delegates, ties with the Russians, Japanese and French remained good, although the smaller delegations might have to be dealt with politely but time might not allow a lot of discussion with them.

OOC> Halibiris ... This spin-off thread might be of particular interest/importance to you. Same with Phoenesia and Tellacar in particular.
Osterlich In BIG Trouble- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=369315

British IC Post:
The British Ambassador decided to be direct about it.

'Would I be able to convince you to allow us to build a canal through Panama? I'm optimistic we could come to an arrangement of some sort. I think it could be of great mutual benefit to us.'

The Kaiser noticed Chamberlain's medal and he recognized him. Immediately the look changed from one of politeness to one of real admiration. He had tired of simple diplomats somewhat, but a real live war hero ... this was something entirely different. The Kaiser had always nutured a dream of obtaining military glory in a similar fashion, but he would have to live vicariously through his generals.

'Mr. Chamberlain ... as in Joshua Chamberlain, the hero of Little Round Top? I have read about the battle so many times. It was a brilliant performance, I must say. We Germans learned a lot from that war, you know. The United States is, I think, a criminally underestimated nation in terms of its martial capacities.'

The Kaiser looked to Chamberlain.

'Perhaps we could converse in private? I have much to tell you, good sir. Much indeed.'

OOC> Halibiris ... This spin-off thread might be of particular interest/importance to you. Same with Phoenesia and Tellacar in particular.
Osterlich In BIG Trouble- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=369315

British IC Post:
The British Ambassador decided to be direct about it.

'Would I be able to convince you to allow us to build a canal through Panama? I'm optimistic we could come to an arrangement of some sort. I think it could be of great mutual benefit to us.'

"A Canal, eh? Through Panama? I have to warn you, we have been offered this many times before. However, seeing how this is from a nation as large and powerful as yours we may consider it. However, the Chagres river has taken the lives of many a great explorer. Also, Panama is VERY mountanious, so it would be very hard. However, for the right price..."

OOC: And i know all about Panama and the canal, so when i speak about how the Chagres is a BAAAAD river and how Panama has a mountain range going through its center, youd better believe me!

British IC Post:

The British Ambassador smiled. 'Well, perhaps we could negotiate that price. We're prepared to be very generous.'

Privately, he thought that if they refused, he could see if Nicaragua was viable. And if that was not the case, perhaps he could convince the French to offer a helping hand in a little geopolitical adventure. But hopefully he could arrange a satisfactory deal for both parties.

Chamberlain quickly agreed to go with the Kaiser. In truth, little was known about this man, and his nation was quickly looking like it might dominate central Europe at the very least.

He probably needed to remind the Germans that Liberia was a US colony in all but name. Especially after Hay had told him about the discussions over Africa. The US also had interests in the Pacific as well, and he would need to subtly remind the Kaiser of that. Hawaii was an American and British Procterate, and the US had a treaty with some of the Samoan chiefs as well for the use of Pago Pago as a harbor.

It was also important to get the Germans to not sell artillery or ships to the Rebs either. Relations were good with the Rebs right now, but there was always tomorrow.

ooc
De Lesseps should actually be trying to build the Panama Canal about now, and the death toll is catastrophic from Yellow Fever and Malaria, plus it was a bad plan. You can't build a sea level canal in Panama with 19th Century methods.

Wouldn't be that easy to do with 21st Century methods either.

OOC: Ah. I knew the French plan failled, but apparently not when.

Chamberlain quickly agreed to go with the Kaiser. In truth, little was known about this man, and his nation was quickly looking like it might dominate central Europe at the very least.

He probably needed to remind the Germans that Liberia was a US colony in all but name. Especially after Hay had told him about the discussions over Africa. The US also had interests in the Pacific as well, and he would need to subtly remind the Kaiser of that. Hawaii was an American and British Procterate, and the US had a treaty with some of the Samoan chiefs as well for the use of Pago Pago as a harbor.

It was also important to get the Germans to not sell artillery or ships to the Rebs either. Relations were good with the Rebs right now, but there was always tomorrow.

ooc
De Lesseps should actually be trying to build the Panama Canal about now, and the death toll is catastrophic from Yellow Fever and Malaria, plus it was a bad plan. You can't build a sea level canal in Panama with 19th Century methods.

Wouldn't be that easy to do with 21st Century methods either.


OOC: But they managed to do it with REALLY early 20th century ones :D

British IC Post:

The British Ambassador smiled. 'Well, perhaps we could negotiate that price. We're prepared to be very generous.'

Privately, he thought that if they refused, he could see if Nicaragua was viable. And if that was not the case, perhaps he could convince the French to offer a helping hand in a little geopolitical adventure. But hopefully he could arrange a satisfactory deal for both parties.

"We can see that." said the general from the look on the Ambassadors face. "Of course, Panama is a much better place for a canal than, lets say, Nicaragua. Come, let us speak more of this price of which you speak."

The General knew that if things went south, Nicaragua would be the location of a canal. Of course, seeing how the Columbians had complete dominance of the carribean and central america, stalling its construction would be quite easy. Too easy.

OOC: But they managed to do it with REALLY early 20th century ones :D


but not as a sea level canal... the Americans figured out that using Gatun Lake was the way to go, with the locks on either end of the canal ...

too bad they are too small now for the really big ships, but maybe one day

Mossbacher saw now that he had accomplished about as much as he could expect. He had an agreement with the British Hannoverians and the British, been polite to the Europeans, and now his chief job was to monitor events.

He expected he would have a lot to monitor. The Yankees were here now, and the Russians and the Columbians and the Japanese. He wondered if the Rebs were coming or the Californians.

He certainly didn't expect the Mormons to show up, but one never knew.

At least the drink was good, although the food was a bit to fancy for his taste but one had to expect such things from the Europeans.

They just didn't understand how good cornbread, beans and good steak were.

but not as a sea level canal... the Americans figured out that using Gatun Lake was the way to go, with the locks on either end of the canal ...

too bad they are too small now for the really big ships, but maybe one day

OOC: actually(and i know this coz live here), they're working on expanding everything. Gulliard cut, the Miraflores locks, Gatun locks, and those locks on the Atlantic side...(ive only been there once! besides the city that its in, Colon, is the most run-down and shoddy place on EARTH! Its all broken, ugly, with a 40% unemployment rate and an 70-80% Poverty rate! Its SSSSCCCCCAAAAARRRRYYY!! I thought the hobos would stab me about 50 bagilllion times.)

The Kaiser took Chamberlain to a private drawing room, clearly intended as a private sanctuary for himself. This was a sign of nearly unique favor, previously, only the Russian ambassador (the countries were in close alliance) would ever have obtained admittance here.

'Would you like a drink? There's most excellent liquour of all sorts here.' The Kaiser poured himself a brandy from a bottle that would cost a skilled worker almost six month's income. 'I recommend this in particular, if you like brandy. Fabulous. If you smoke ... I have cigars from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Turkey.'

The Kaiser took Chamberlain to a private drawing room, clearly intended as a private sanctuary for himself. This was a sign of nearly unique favor, previously, only the Russian ambassador (the countries were in close alliance) would ever have obtained admittance here.

'Would you like a drink? There's most excellent liquour of all sorts here.' The Kaiser poured himself a brandy from a bottle that would cost a skilled worker almost six month's income. 'I recommend this in particular, if you like brandy. Fabulous. If you smoke ... I have cigars from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Turkey.'

OOC: Dont forget Columbian drugs! We gots cocaine, Marijuana, uhh...pot....(what! So i cant remember the names of a few drugs! Its not like its a big deal...)

Wilhelm came back to the conference. He had taken a little break, with all the recent strain on him. Looking about, he noticed at least three new delgations, including orientals... and the Columbians.
He noticed, with a small degree of alarm, talk once again of a canal through Panama. If such a canal was ever made (Heaven forbid!), the whole economy of Whutehfeckia would collapse, possibly bringing the country into chaos and forgein rule. He would regret an assault on the region, but it could be necessary in the future.

The Kaiser took Chamberlain to a private drawing room, clearly intended as a private sanctuary for himself. This was a sign of nearly unique favor, previously, only the Russian ambassador (the countries were in close alliance) would ever have obtained admittance here.

'Would you like a drink? There's most excellent liquour of all sorts here.' The Kaiser poured himself a brandy from a bottle that would cost a skilled worker almost six month's income. 'I recommend this in particular, if you like brandy. Fabulous. If you smoke ... I have cigars from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Turkey.'

Chamberlain accepted a brandy and Cuban cigar and waited as the Kaiser got down to business.

He listened carefully as the Kaiser made his proposals.

Wilhelm came back to the conference. He had taken a little break, with all the recent strain on him. Looking about, he noticed at least three new delgations, including orientals... and the Columbians.
He noticed, with a small degree of alarm, talk once again of a canal through Panama. If such a canal was ever made (Heaven forbid!), the whole economy of Whutehfeckia would collapse, possibly bringing the country into chaos and forgein rule. He would regret an assault on the region, but it could be necessary in the future.

OOC: You know, of course, the Imperio Colombino del Cangrejo(or Columbia to you), is a great power with a large military and baisically ALL of the major MAJOR seafaring powers in the world want a canal built. So you would have a VERY hard time trying to stop a great power with your navy and army...

While remaining cheerful and in good spirits, Tenjou inwardly snarled at the British delegate. None could sense the sourness and dark feelings, it was something that she prided herself off and that she had learned in the university. Not even a nod! Europeans and Americans were so impolite. She noticed then Pierresmonte and smiled warmly. “Good day,” She said in a lightly accented voice, “I am fairing quite well. I am Sezume Tenjou, delegate from Hizashi."

OOC: I would perfer Hizashi though it is Japan. The huge difference between the IRL verison is the fact there isn't as much sexism. No way in the real Meiji period would a woman be chosen to be a dipomat and help run a country later. But if you want to use Japan, that's fine.

The Speaker did not look pleased at the developments and murmured gently to one of her comrades. “I say we give it an hour or so, then we leave. Obviously they invited us here as a warning.”

The Speaker did not look pleased at the developments and murmured gently to one of her comrades. “I say we give it an hour or so, then we leave. Obviously they invited us here as a warning.”

OOC: What?

The only bad thing that happend was Aden, which was pages ago!

"I am afraid," Pierresmonte continued, "I have never paid her a visit. Though I am impressed at the strides your land has made in the last years. Just las month, the Dean of the Sorbonne introduced me to a Hizashian student."

A servant came in with a telegram. Reading it, the Kaiser looked very serious indeed. He looked at Chamberlain apologetically. He hated to snub a war hero so, but it was utterly unavoidable.

'I'm sorry, Mr. Chamberlain, but I must break our conversation short. Absolutely critical business of state. Before I leave, though, I would like to state that I fully recognize American predominance in Liberia and Hawaii. I hope that the United States can recognize our colonial interests in the Congo and New Guinea. We shall have to discuss further about the other Pacific Islands, of course. Again, I am most sorry ...'

The Kaiser got up and left. Something was clearly up.

A servant came in with a telegram. Reading it, the Kaiser looked very serious indeed. He looked at Chamberlain apologetically. He hated to snub a war hero so, but it was utterly unavoidable.

'I'm sorry, Mr. Chamberlain, but I must break our conversation short. Absolutely critical business of state. Before I leave, though, I would like to state that I fully recognize American predominance in Liberia and Hawaii. I hope that the United States can recognize our colonial interests in the Congo and New Guinea. We shall have to discuss further about the other Pacific Islands, of course. Again, I am most sorry ...'

The Kaiser got up and left. Something was clearly up.

OOC: Is that plot twist i smell?

OOC: What?

The only bad thing that happend was Aden, which was pages ago!

Tellacar is a socialistic country and finds Imperialism distasteful. The attack on Aden and how the Kasier is using this as an excuse to carve up Africa and Asia is disgusting and unethical and uncivilaized.

Tellacar is a socialistic country and finds Imperialism distasteful. The attack on Aden and how the Kasier is using this as an excuse to carve up Africa and Asia is disgusting and unethical and uncivilaized.


OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH

BTW-the attack on Aden wasnt imperialism on the part of TLS. It was(suposed) to be the beginning of a free african nation spanning the entire contintent PLUS south-east asia. So all the Arab-speaking nations would be involved.

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH

BTW-the attack on Aden wasnt imperialism on the part of TLS. It was(suposed) to be the beginning of a free african nation spanning the entire contintent PLUS south-east asia. So all the Arab-speaking nations would be involved.

OOC: Not all. Tellacarians do speak Arabic and they're in south eastern europe. :)

OOC: Not all. Tellacarians do speak Arab and they're in south eastern europe. :)

OOC: I meant Arabia :D

Oh, and your people better be muslim. Why? Because 99.7% of people who speak Arabic as a first language are muslim.

OOC> There are many Muslims in that area IRL, though they don't speak Arabic as a rule. But Tellacar is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state who draws unity from politics, ie, socialism. They speak Arabic, but also German, Russian and a whack of other languages.

British IC Post:

The British Ambassador heard the news about the events in Osterlich and went immediately to discuss the matter with Pierresmonte, wherever he may be. It was essential ... politesse be damned.

A man approached Pierresmonte.

"Excsuse me." he said to the Hizashian diplomat. The man handed Pierresmonte a telegram, which read,

'Have received word of rebellion in Osterlich by German nationalists, and have been asked by Queen to fight them. LeBlanche has put on alert three Army Corps, though the matter is still in Parliament. Nordrreich may move in and take region. I do not want that, and suggest we intervene.

A. Legrand'

OOC> Yes you may. And furthermore, do you have AIM?

OOC: Yes, JGEkid. Sould I go on now?

"Sir," said Pierresmonte to the British ambassador. "If you wish to discuss this incident in Osterlich, I have just received word. This will become a most serious matter, if something is not done now."

The Columbian representative noticed all the European nations getting all in a fret over some backwards, backwater nation in the middle of their continent. Why doesnt someone invade? he though to himself.That would add lands to their empires, and EVERYONE knows that an Empire needs lands. That and an army with which to quell rebellions. Thats how we won our independence from Spain! Those silly people used almost no tactics at all.. Seeing how Columbia had gone mostly ignored for the last few hours, the General walked over to his desk and began writing a telegram.

OOC: Did they have the trans-atlantic telegraf line then? If not, can someone magically make one?

OOC> There are many Muslims in that area IRL, though they don't speak Arabic as a rule. But Tellacar is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state who draws unity from politics, ie, socialism. They speak Arabic, but also German, Russian and a whack of other languages.

OOC: Hmmm, i see.

But if they dont speak Arabic "as a written rule", how can they be expected to read the Koran?!?!?!?! I mean, even Indoneseans, Bengladeshis, Pakistanis, Iranians, and Turks know Arabic because thats what language the Koran is written in. Besides, no Christian or Jewish nation has Arabic as a main language. In fact, no nation with a jewish or christian majority speaks it as a main language. Of course, in this whacked up world of our 1880's ness, the impossible can happen...

And how can you be multi-ethnic, multi-religious, AND have a free democratic state in those days.

And was socialism even INVENTED then?

OOC: Very much so. Karl Marx, the Paris Commune of 1871, the French Worker's Party in 1880...the term came around in the eary 19th century.

OOC> I'm Deutsche Devil. And if I catch you in time ... yes. Probably a few things we should maybe discuss a bit?

The British Ambassador looked at Pierresmonte. 'What does the French Government plan to do about it?'

OOC: Was there, or was there not, a telegraph line crossing the ocean in 1880?

OOC> I think so, because Civil War news got pretty quickly to London papers.

The Kaiser went to find Pierresmonte intent on making his point very clearly and personally. He realized that this might split the Conference asunder and necessitate its cancellation. However, he was determined not to back down. The pride of Germany, and the final phase of its unification. Then he could truly and honestly let the name 'Nordrreich' fade away and become 'Germany' forever.

IC:
"Well, the details are incomplete for me." He held up the telegram he had just been handed. "It would seem Queen Theresa has asked we help her. Marshal LeBlanche has ordered ready three Army Corps, which is..." Pierresmonte stared up at the ceiling as he thought, "Well, it three fifths of the Army-about 60,000 men." He just then realized the size of such a force. "Oh, good Lord."

The Kaiser walked up to the British ambassador and the French leader. His eyes had an intense glow to them and his eyes bored into them. He only wished the Prime Minister was here as well ...

'Greetings gentlemen. I believe we have something to talk about.'

Mossbacher smiled inwardly. The Europeans were about to get wrapped up in a problem in their backyard, which should hopefully keep them out of trouble elsewhere for a while. Hopefully the Brits did the smart thing and let events unfold before committing.

It could be the French and Austrians vs the Germans and maybe Russians? Sounded like something from the 18th Century. Wouldn't the Europeans ever learn?

Oh well.

Deciding he knew enough for the moment, he began making the rounds to the various other delegations, exchanging pleasantries and letting them know that Texas at least knew who there were. He started with the lady from the Balkans, who looked like she was very serious. She reminded him of those passionate girls from the South at the start of the Civil War. All caught up in the cause. Perhaps a little harmless flirtation to see just how into the cause she was. It would be a could way to find out what politics (which would suggest how stable it was) were like in her country.

He would have to make sure to spend time with the others too. The Colombians would probably move toward Mexico someday, and they bore watching. The Japanese were a fascinating group, trying very hard to modernize and from reports, doing it well. The others, well, why not? The taxpayers sent him to learn the world situation, and Secretary Houston would want a full briefing.

Ah, thought Pierresmonte. The German. He had nearly forgotten what could soon possibly be France's opponent was in the conference room with him.

"Sir, I think we do."

John Hay made his way over to the Japanese while his boss was meeting with the Kaiser. The Japanese were a valued trading partner, and the US felt a certain paternal interest in them as well, after all, it was an American fleet that had opened up Japan. It helped that he liked the Japanese as well, having met their first Ambassador back during the War, and he definitely did not want them to feel that they were ignored.

As Hay made his way over to the Japanese, Chamberlan reentered the room, curious to see what the Kaiser was up too. He noticed him heading straight for the British and French, so something major involving Europe must have happened.

As the British were busy, he decided to talk to British Hannover. He needed to pass on the message that the US Navy would be supporting the British in their anti piracy operations. He knew the Navy had long experience with that, and the British and Americans had worked closely in the Caribbean, East Indies and along the West African coast to suppress slave trading and piracy.

He also wanted to voice American misgivings over the new agreement between Texas and the British Empire, but it was only a matter of minor concern. The new Republican Administration, the first since Lincoln, was in no position to force a renewed call for restoring the Union. The voters would never stand for it, and frankly, he for one thought the Union in the long run would dominate the continent. Industrial power belonged to the United States, and the South in particular, but also the other nations depended on products from the Union, and just as important, capital from the Union and from Britian. They were essentially commercial colonies of the United States and eventually would see the wisdom of rejoining the Union eventually.

Walking up to Prime Minister Ritter, he greeted him warmly but politely, and asked for a word.

Johann Ritter turned to see the American ambassador. He smiled and returned the greeting warmly.

'Of course, sir. What is it that you'd like to discuss?'

Johann Ritter turned to see the American ambassador. He smiled and returned the greeting warmly.

'Of course, sir. What is it that you'd like to discuss?'

"We just wanted to remind the British Hannover, and of course, the British Empire as a whole, that the US Navy is always ready to crush piracy and that our Navy is sending ships to assist in dealing with the pirate activity in the Indian Ocean and Red Sea. A substantial amount of our trade goes through that area, especially clippers from China and steamers from India, and my nation views the events at Aden with grave concern."

a waiter passed, and Chamberlain took the opportunity to grab a glass of wine from it. Standing on his feet for a long time still hurt, ever since that wound in the Wilderness, but he had more to say.

"In addition, the United States wishes to discuss the possibilities of reducing the amount of money spent on defenses on the Great Lakes and along our shared border, as well as discuss the benefits of closer ties."

"Although we do have some concern about your military alliance with Texas, we do not view that as a substantial difficulty, as my President, who will be taking office soon, as convinced the current Administration that reunification is an idea whose time will never come if it comes by force. Peaceful reintergration through trade and the consent of the governed is the official policy of the United States at this time."

"We also want to remind British Hannover that the US still maintains the Monroe Doctrine and non interference by the Europeans in the affairs of the Americas and want to know how British Hannover stands on that issue. Perhaps a joint declaration would be in order at this conference?"

Johann Ritter took a sip of his scotch and began to speak in his smooth, fluent baritone. He had a slight accent, reminescent of German, but also with British undertones. This mixed accent was one that was increasingly common as British Hannover slowly came to grips with its national identity, both British and German and with a certain undefinable uniqueness.

'Our alliance with Texas should not be interpreted as an aggressive move. I am satisified with your government's current good intentions. As for the Munroe Doctrine, I fully support the principle of it and the British government also does.

On another note, we appreciate the help that you have offered us in naval affairs in both past and present. As British Hannover takes over the naval duties of Britain in much of the Americas, I hope this cooperation can continue.

I believe that closer ties are not only a positive development, but flatly, a necessity. We share a very long border ... if we were to persue a policy of fortifying as the Germans and French do along theirs, we'd bankrupt ourselves at Detroit.

As for a joint declaration regarding the Munroe Doctrine, I believe that would be a good idea. I have one request though ... while I don't believe that aggression is particularly likely to come from the government you currently represent, I know there is a fringe movement that thinks otherwise. Perhaps a formal, binding document of your current peaceful intentions would be in order?'

The Kaiser looked squarely at the British Ambassador and the French President.

'I believe we should take this discussion elsewhere.'

The tone was one of forced pleasantry. It was a shroud of silk upon cold steel. Clearly, the Kaiser regarded this as a very serious matter indeed. A matter of life and death.

Chamberlain relaxed at the British Hannover response. He noticed the Kaiser talking to the British and French, and watched them leave. Definitely something serious was developing, so he better get what he needed said now.

"I think a joint declaration may need to be issued soon. I have my concerns about the direction this conference is taking in light of the fact the Kaiser just left with both the French and British Ambassadors. That may be a problem since the Kaiser abruptly ended a meeting with me when he learned of something.

As far as a notice of peaceful intent, I think a friendship treaty would be in order, and perhaps the announcement of a joint Worlds Fair, say at Niagra Falls for example?"

Osterlicher Clemens von Kluck had just recieved the news. He immediately turned ghastly white and staggered towards his rooms, but not before accidentally bumping into the American ambassador. He apologized. Von Kluck looked like he had recieved some very bad news indeed.

Chamberlain hid his wince of pain from the bump. He looked at the older man, who looked very worried.

"Are you all right Minister," he asked in German. Perhaps this man knew what was going on.

The speaker did not look happy as she watched the Minister of Osterilich rush away. Her lips pressed firmly together as she began to asset the situation in her mind. With a tiny sigh, Zhurova was getting the feeling she would have to travel by boat to her homeland. She would have to speak to some minister or government official to go home. Unless if it was personal matters, the apparent distress that von Kluck made Nadia worry. If something happened at Osterlich, then something would soon happen to her beloved country. The young woman was almost so engrossed that she barely missed being addressed by Mossbacher. “Oh, good day, Mr. Ambassador.” She smiled warily. “Though I might be using the term ‘good’ superficially.” She spoke in English, and though accented, it was quite clear.

Ah, the Western Hemisphere is getting excited, aren’t they? Tenjou thought as she watched the French delegate leave for more “important” matters. Pondering to herself, she decided she would have to advance the idea of a peasant backed constitution when she returned home to Japan. The fighting on that was a waste and now that the Europeans and Americans were warming up, her country could not be hesitant to draft more people into the army and into the navy. The population was growing every year and to be confined to tiny islands wouldn’t do at all in a few decades or so.

'It appears that my country has broken out in revolt, Mr. Chamberlain. German nationalists.' He looked hard at the ground. 'It may not be too long before I have no country to represent ... you see, the Kaiser thinks of us as the last phase of German unification. And I fear, so do many of my people. I don't think many of them feel particularly patriotic.'

He laughed without humour. 'God ... who would have thought that the Czechs would turn out to be our most loyal subjects?'

IC USA
Chamberlain immediately grasped the significance. This could trigger a war bigger than the Franco-Nordrriech war in 1870.

"I can only offer your nation my governments sympathies, and my personal sympathies to you as well."

Meanwhile Hay was approaching the Japanese Ambassador. The US was interested in obtaining permission to refit and repair its naval vessels in Japanese shipyards, especially when they suffered typhoon damage. It was a long way back from the Western Pacific to the closest US held shipyard (on the East Coast).

IC Republic of Texas
Mossbacher bowed to the lady Ambassador from Tellacar. "Yes, I can see what you mean. An expansionist Nordrreich could mean trouble for you. Perhaps you should talk to the French, or perhaps the British. I seem to recall the Italians aren't real fond of Germans either. It is never hopeless ma'm. My own country despaired at winning its independence from the Yankees but things worked out for us in the end. Perhaps it will for you as well."

Emperor Torrijos,

I have been watching the delegates VVVVVEEEEEERRRRRYYYY closely, expecially those from the Americas. It seems that Sangre de Cristo and Galveston Bay are weak and if we could go through the Mexicans they would fall. Unfortunatly, these nations are supported by the gringo British Hanoverans and the Norte Americanos, so we must tread lightly. We are hearing more of the Canal topic again. This time it is those Canadians making quite a fuss, but the French are also. It seems that a delegate from some small nation at the tip of South America(the person never greeted me so i have no clue where their nation is called, only where they are roughly located) was eyeing me spitefully, so im guesing they arent too happy. When you recieve this, please send word of the Venezuelans and the plans to begin Operation Columbian Power.

Sincerely,
Carlos Vasquez Morales, Lieutenant, 1st class

"Yes, let us move else where." said Pierresmonte. He felt he was keeping a relatively good, straight face towards the Kaiser, but underneath, the Nordrreich's stare(Which he must try to perfect everyday,) was doing some of it's intended effect.

The British Ambassador heard the Kaiser and was a bit alarmed but managed to keep things under wraps. Best not to let him know that we think he holds most of the aces that really counted in this conflict. Sea power would mean little in a land conflict, and the Germans outnumbered the French 6-to-1 militarily. If Britain could spare 200,000 men, it was still two to one, and he had heard that the German mobilization could feed a million extra conscripts into the war machine within less than two weeks.

Not to mention that Britain's army was really better suited to colonial confrontations than to European warfare. He really wanted this to be resolved without a war. A war would potentially be disastrous ... if Nordrreich won it ... the results might be even worse than the annexation of Osterlich. And mathematically, Nordrreich probably stood a better than even chance of victory.

Chamberlain watched as the saddened Von Kluck walked away quickly.

He shook his head, sad as well. But there was really nothing the US could do or would do to help. The policy of the United States was strict neutrality on wars not vital to its national interest.

He took the opportunity to meet with the Ambassadors from the other nations, especially Whutehfeckia. Walking over to the man, he offered his hand and introduced himself.

"Sir, the United States is interested in discussing a few matters with you. Can I have a moment of your time?"

“We are what people might call, ‘Socialists’ or ‘Marxists’.” She moved to her purse, taking out some tobacco and cigarette paper and began to roll out two cigarettes. “This is not truly the case, our foundation is based on the compassion of major world religions. Christ, Mohammad, and now Marx has proclaimed the same ideas. Capitalists are not fond of such an idea.” The speaker took a match and began to smoke quietly. “We want equality, and under our system we are approaching that. We may not have the same economical freedoms, but we have most social freedoms. It is the only place in the world right now a Moslem and a Catholic are neighbors without trying to slice each other open.” Zhurova smiles slightly and offers the other cigarette to the Texan. “But we have patience for whatever comes.”

Chamberlain watched as the saddened Von Kluck walked away quickly.

He shook his head, sad as well. But there was really nothing the US could do or would do to help. The policy of the United States was strict neutrality on wars not vital to its national interest.

He took the opportunity to meet with the Ambassadors from the other nations, especially Whutehfeckia. Walking over to the man, he offered his hand and introduced himself.

"Sir, the United States is interested in discussing a few matters with you. Can I have a moment of your time?"
Wilhelm took his hand. "Certainly! Wilhelm Hendrickson, delegate from Whutehfeckia. What can I do for you?"

USA IC
"Mr Hendrickson, a pleasure sir. The United States is interested in obtaining port and refueling privilages for our naval vessels at your ports, as well as access to repair facilities. Rounding the Horn or steaming through the Magellen Straits can be hard on a ship, and frequently our ships need repairs, otherwise they have to turn around and go home.

The US also wants your nations support with the Monroe Doctrine in keeping other nations out of our hemisphere."

“We are what people might call, ‘Socialists’ or ‘Marxists’.” She moved to her purse, taking out some tobacco and cigarette paper and began to roll out two cigarettes. “This is not truly the case, our foundation is based on the compassion of major world religions. Christ, Mohammad, and now Marx has proclaimed the same ideas. Capitalists are not fond of such an idea.” The speaker took a match and began to smoke quietly. “We want equality, and under our system we are approaching that. We may not have the same economical freedoms, but we have most social freedoms. It is the only place in the world right now a Moslem and a Catholic are neighbors without trying to slice each other open.” Zhurova smiles slightly and offers the other cigarette to the Texan. “But we have patience for whatever comes.”

Mossbacher immediately knew he was in trouble. He wasn't sure what socialism or Marxism was, exactly, but it sounded like some romantic notion that Whitman or one of those Romantic poets like Shelley would have spouted.

Nonsense of course, just like the nonsense the Southern Belles and Gentleman had believed from Ivanhoe before the War of Southern Independence.

If he gave her the slightest excuse, she would tell him ALL about it and frankly, although potentially entertaining, he didn't really have the time.

But the Nordrreichers, the Italians and the Russians might stomp them out eventually, and someone might as well listen. It might be the only audience they ever got.

He accepted the cigerette and lit it, and listened some more.

"Well ma'm, I suggest you don't seek a war, but don't hide from it either, and keep my suggestion in mind."

ooc
This is a Texan, so even though the Lady is an Ambassador (incredibly unheard of), lit her own cigerette (terribly unladylike) and spouting off romantic political nonsense (in his mind anyway), he is used to independent women (common on the frontier) who have their own mind (common in Texas even back then). Remember this is the Victorian Age, when women were generally viewed in a way that makes the current mild sexism look pretty tame in comparision.

USA IC
"Mr Hendrickson, a pleasure sir. The United States is interested in obtaining port and refueling privilages for our naval vessels at your ports, as well as access to repair facilities. Rounding the Horn or steaming through the Magellen Straits can be hard on a ship, and frequently our ships need repairs, otherwise they have to turn around and go home.

The US also wants your nations support with the Monroe Doctrine in keeping other nations out of our hemisphere."
Hendrickson had heard of the Monroe Doctrine... it basically told Europeans to keep away and let the Americas be by themselves. It was the Europeans who wanted to build the canal mostly, this seemed good to him.
Having another ally like the United States (although after the 1860's it hardly seemed united) was always sought after. Perhaps more business would come through now, as well.
"Fair enough. I'll have to wire this through to the government back home, but it seems very likely that Parliment would agree." Hendrickson finally answered.
"Anything else?"

IC USA
Chamberlain looked carefully around to ensure that any Colombians particularly and anyone else as well was out of earshot. Satisfied, he spoke in a very low tone to Hendrickson.

"You must realize that eventually somebody is going to build a canal across Central America. Unless your nation is involved somehow, it will suffer for that. Your nation should begin planning for what happens on that day. I cannot say more at this time, but I suggest you watch the Colombians carefully. We shall."

Wilhelm nodded. Looking about, he said slowly and quitely "I know, we have been, for years now. We've come to one of three options:
One, if anyone begins to build one, send saboteurs in to destroy it, but that may send us into war.
Two, if anyone starts to build one, join in, or try to start it before they do and control both passages between the two oceans.
or Three, let it occur without us and die.

We can't afford the second option yet, so we are stuck with attacking. Our country is becoming obsolete, no matter what. Someday they may not use ships anymore even, and instead fly over it all through the heavens. We've been trying to prolong those things for a while now. We need to get out of our dependency of the Straits." He shook his head sadly.

The Lightning Starian delegate studied the other delegates with great intent, although years in the Covert Force made it so no one could tell. They are all worried about their Osterlich and stuff. No one cares about Africa anymore. Of course, these people think we're barbarians EVEN THOUGH they enslaved our people, used smallpox to wipe out the entire continent of the Americas, had crushed any free nation, and not to mention were extremely un-popular(except for in Europe, of course). Ahhh well.

The Delegate had also been paying VVVEEEERRRRYYYY close atention to the Columbian delegate. Upon hearing that there may be a canal being built in the area, he decided that it would be good to fund such a project. Besides, if the Panama Canal was built, then the Suez Canal would be less important. He walked swiftly towards the Columbian General who was reading a map in the cornoer of the main hall.

General Montoya sat in the cornor of the room looking over an old map of Panama. While he looked over it, he pulled a cigar out and began smoking. The cigar, the map, and a sense of homesickness made him, out of the blue, start singing a song to himself.

Panamá, la patria mía,
suelo grato, encantador!
Hoy te canto, Panamá con alegría;
al mirarte así grandiosa.

Cuando veo tu bandera
de precioso tricolor,
abrazarte con gran júbilo quisiera
expresándote mi amor.

Panamá del alma
de tus selvas he escuchado los rumores;
siempre gocé tu calma
siempre gocé tu calma
y en tu cielo vi magníficos colores.

Panamá querida,
Oh permita que yo muera en tu regazo;
tuya será mi vida.
tuya será mi vida.
Sigue siendo libre y bella Panamá!

Panamá, la patria mía,
suelo grato, encantador!
Hoy te canto, Panamá con alegría;
al mirarte así grandiosa.

Cuando veo tu bandera
de precioso tricolor,
abrazarte con gran júbilo quisiera
expresándote mi amor.

I haven't sung that song in years, not since... he thought to himself. Before he could finish his thought, however, a strange, tanned man approached him. "Hello, are you the Columbian delegate?" he said.

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Chamberlain and Hay discussed the days events that evening at the Embassy Residence. The US had done very well, securing what they needed from Spain and Denmark, getting agreements that should improve relations with the British and securing American claims in the Pacific from the Germans. An agreement with Whutefeckia as well now gave the US Navy a string of coaling facilities connecting the US to its possessions in the Pacific, which ensured that the US Navy could protect US trade. Relations with Japan looked like the would continue to go well also.

Most importantly, the US had maintained its traditional neutrality from the affairs of Europe.

It was time to go home.

Chamberlain and Hay discussed the days events that evening at the Embassy Residence. The US had done very well, securing what they needed from Spain and Denmark, getting agreements that should improve relations with the British and securing American claims in the Pacific from the Germans. An agreement with Whutefeckia as well now gave the US Navy a string of coaling facilities connecting the US to its possessions in the Pacific, which ensured that the US Navy could protect US trade. Relations with Japan looked like the would continue to go well also.

Most importantly, the US had maintained its traditional neutrality from the affairs of Europe.

It was time to go home.

OOC:Go home?!?!?!?!? Wow.

Lightning Star IC post:

"Yes, i am the General Montoya." said the general in response to the man. "What was that song you were singing, t'was quite catchy." inquired the Lightning Starian delegate. The Columbians face turned crimson red as he replied, "Just a song of my youth, but that is not important. It seems you have something important to ask me."
"Ahh yes, down to buisiness." replied the tanned man.
"The Lighning Starian government has heard of the bids for a canal in your country, and we are willing to fund such an operation."
"Oh really? Why would that be, our nations are worlds apart!"
"Well, you see, we believe it would be good for world trade, thus good for us." replied the Lightning Starian. Of course, the REAL reason was that it would weaken the Suez canals influence at least a small bit, but he wouldnt tip his hand so shortly.
"Let's take a walk out in the courtyard to discuss these matters, no? It would be, muy bueno as we say in Pa-- i mean Columbia.

The Kaiser lit a victory cigar as he walked down the halls of the conference. He had got almost everything he could have asked for. He had colonies and now, had completed German unification. It was time to bring an end to the conference. Most of the major business, in his mind, had been resolved. It would now be time for the various powers to consolidate their spheres of influence.

He had sent messagers to all of the ambassadors and their entourages to meet in the central banquet hall for a last meal together as a sign of the formation of a glorious world order. Friedrich II would spare no expense at all ... each ambassador would eat a meal that cost one thousand thalers on a plate that cost five hundred and with silverware that cost three hundred. A million thalers of wine and spirits would be served and each ambassador would receive a gift package that cost five hundred thalers.

Gift Package:
Gold Pocket Watch, courtesy of Schumacker's Luxury Jewellers, Konigstadt
Gold-framed World Map, courtesy of Schumackers'
A bottle of Rhineland wine, courtesy of Halle's Vinters, Darmstadt
A bottle of fine schnapps or brandy, courtesy of Lewinski Breweries, Posen
A package of Cuban cigars, courtesy of Aldermeyer's Tobacco Emporium, Hamburg
A formal letter of thanks for services rendered to the cause of progress and invitation to visit Nordrreich any time, courtesy of the Kaiser, Friedrich II

The Kaiser lit a victory cigar as he walked down the halls of the conference. He had got almost everything he could have asked for. He had colonies and now, had completed German unification. It was time to bring an end to the conference. Most of the major business, in his mind, had been resolved. It would now be time for the various powers to consolidate their spheres of influence.

He had sent messagers to all of the ambassadors and their entourages to meet in the central banquet hall for a last meal together as a sign of the formation of a glorious world order. Friedrich II would spare no expense at all ... each ambassador would eat a meal that cost one thousand thalers on a plate that cost five hundred and with silverware that cost three hundred. A million thalers of wine and spirits would be served and each ambassador would receive a gift package that cost five hundred thalers.

Gift Package:
Gold Pocket Watch, courtesy of Schumacker's Luxury Jewellers, Konigstadt
Gold-framed World Map, courtesy of Schumackers'
A bottle of Rhineland wine, courtesy of Halle's Vinters, Darmstadt
A bottle of fine schnapps or brandy, courtesy of Lewinski Breweries, Posen
A package of Cuban cigars, courtesy of Aldermeyer's Tobacco Emporium, Hamburg
A formal letter of thanks for services rendered to the cause of progress and invitation to visit Nordrreich any time, courtesy of the Kaiser, Friedrich II

OOC: COnference end?!? There are SSSOOOOO many loose ties to fix! Such as the Lightning Stars Imperialism, Columbias Imperialism, a Panama Canal, not to mention the actual conquest of Africa and South-east asia...

OOC> We're skipping ahead to 1890. But just because the Conference is formally over doesn't mean EVERYTHING is resolved. I mean, the Kaiser can cancel the damn thing whenever the hell he wants to. It is his country. And the actual conquest of Africa, SE Asia will take place outside of the conference. The ten year gap is to give time for things to consolidate a bit.

OOC> We're skipping ahead to 1890. But just because the Conference is formally over doesn't mean EVERYTHING is resolved. I mean, the Kaiser can cancel the damn thing whenever the hell he wants to. It is his country. And the actual conquest of Africa, SE Asia will take place outside of the conference. The ten year gap is to give time for things to consolidate a bit.

OOC: OOOOOOOHHHH!!!

So that means that in 10 years lets say...we could have a power-change for example? Or some countries will look fundamentally different due to rebellions and wars and such?

Btw... Go GWB!

OOC> If you wanted a rebellion to occur in one of your countries or something, yeah. But, generally, the European and North American powers are going to be consolidating their positions.

ooc: What'll be the starting thing then? Lightning Star'll attempt a canal in Panama? North American havoc? Those wacky Germans are at their Empire-building again?



Nooo! Kerry lost! But no more political commentary here, that could derail the thread!

ooc probably the powerful battlefleet from Texas invading Chile and the surrounding islands (just kidding ;) )

lets see.. we have the likelihood of conflict in Central America and the Caribbean, the British and Germans might decide to conquer East Africa (Zanzibar in Tanzania (Lightning Star) is a good harbor, the only one except for Mombassa worth using on the East coast of Africa north of Durban South Africa and they appear to be available, then we have the possibilities of crushing Turkey (just think of all the fun the Europeans and Russians could have there), Japan deciding Korea needs to belong to them, Philippines being defended by an arthritic Spain which also has Cuba and Puerto Rico, Italy having no colonies yet.....

so many choices....

ooc: other possible ideas, in addition to Galveston's- canal shenanigans, early WWI, frontier wars (Whutehfeckia is making advances into Patagonia), Boers, slightly early Dreadnought arms race, assasination attempt on someone, prohibition and smuggling, wacky flight tries, Around the World in 80 Day race, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Nautilus Crisis, 2nd Conference

[QUOTE=Whutehfeckia]ooc: prohibition and smuggling, wacky flight tries, Around the World in 80 Day race, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

OOC: Lol!

Well, Galveston, i hate to pop ur bubble but Mombassa was burned to the ground by hordes of Angry pirates, who now have a series of forts on the entire coastline.

And another thing is im gonna have Panama rebel, but in THIS rebellion Columbia wont just sit by. We'll invade and burn a few cities. Then we can have BH, the U.S., and Galveston Bay intervene.

Germans Try For Mozambique- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366494&highlight=1880

Spanish Succession Crisis!- http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371051&highlight=1890