Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 19:53
Note: Everything in this post is merely my opinion, except for the quoted passage. It is in no way official NS gospel.
I've seen posters who either don't understand what an IGNORE is or does or deliberately try to get around it. I've seen people make false statements about what the nature of an IGNORE is. In the interest of trying to clear things up, here's some information:
Ignoring... (Haxor Noob!)
Firstly, I don't ignore any nation for any reason because it goes against my beliefs of free form. Ignoring a nation means you do not recognize it AT ALL. It doesn't mean you get pissed, flame, ignore, then harass the next day, it means that to you, that nation no longer exists. And it doesn't mean that all nations owned by that same person are also ignored, just that one. A tip for good role play: Use ignoring as a final tactic if nothing else works. Over the course of my now seven months on NationStates, I've seen several people (and I've also done this) use separate distinctions for a soft ignore or a hard ignore. I've also seen the expression of a partial ignore. I'd like to say I invented the distinction between soft ignores and hard ignores because I'd never seen the terms before I posted them somewhere, but I don't think I can claim the credit. I'll just say what the terms mean FOR ME.
PARTIAL IGNORE: Per Praetonia's suggestion, this type of IGNORE is very specialized. It is limited to a particular thread (for instance, if I posted something like "OMG I'M EXECUTING CATS!" a country might ignore that particular thread but may not ignore the country that posts the thread in general) or to a particular equipment. For instance, a player may ignore superdreadnaughts or Tungsten rods but not the country that uses them. This is often seen when a piece of technology is not feasible (for instance, a modern tech fighter jet that flies at Mach 8 or an aircraft carrier that is totally invisible).
SOFT IGNORE: This essentially means that you've read a nation's posts and you're not impressed. Whether his syntax or usage is poor or you just don't like him for some reason you can't put your finger on, you just make a note not to read his threads or participate in them. You might RP with him if he happens to appear in a thread that you're involved with if the other players accept him, but you didn't contact him. In my case, this is just a mental list of people I choose not to read, but I haven't gone so far as to put a Jolt IGNORE on them.
HARD IGNORE: This means that you have either announced you are ignoring this country or you use the Jolt features to block the display of their posts from your screen when you are logged in. A hard ignore in an RP means that you do not acknowledge that they have done anything. A hard ignore of a country as a whole means that the country does not exist in your mind. Nothing more, nothing less. It is bad form to RP as if a country exists if you have announced that you ignore that country. In my opinion, it is bad form to unignore some country in an attempt to get at it in a war. If a country that you do RP with mentions the country you ignore in a post, you may RP as if that country were never mentioned.
DEATH PENALTY IGNORE: This is a subset of the hard ignore, but it merits its own category. While a hard ignore means that a nation doesn't exist, a death penalty ignore means that a particular country NEVER existed in your RP world. This is reserved for the most egregious violations of NS protocol and are rarely ever imposed. One example of this is Communist Mississippi/Decisive Action/VoteEarly after the player received a DOS (Delete On Sight) ban.
In addition, I sometimes use a HARD IGNORE on someone I choose not to RP with for reasons that have nothing to do with their RPs. One example is someone who posted graphic threads that I didn't want to read in public places such as libraries or *cough* my job. Another example is someone who flamed me OOC.
Ignoring a country during a war for actions when the ignore isn't legitimate (for instance, a country who RPs a smaller force legitimately beating your larger army or knocking out your supply lines) will get looked down upon. Ignoring a country for so-called number wanking or Godmoding is legitimate. It does NOT mean that the number wanking country has "won" anything except alienation.
If you are the country that's being ignored, your only acceptable course of action is to leave the country who is ignoring you alone. In the most extreme cases, it means he does not want to RP with you. Continuing to post in that country's threads even though you are ignored is grounds for moderator intervention.
I've seen posters who either don't understand what an IGNORE is or does or deliberately try to get around it. I've seen people make false statements about what the nature of an IGNORE is. In the interest of trying to clear things up, here's some information:
Ignoring... (Haxor Noob!)
Firstly, I don't ignore any nation for any reason because it goes against my beliefs of free form. Ignoring a nation means you do not recognize it AT ALL. It doesn't mean you get pissed, flame, ignore, then harass the next day, it means that to you, that nation no longer exists. And it doesn't mean that all nations owned by that same person are also ignored, just that one. A tip for good role play: Use ignoring as a final tactic if nothing else works. Over the course of my now seven months on NationStates, I've seen several people (and I've also done this) use separate distinctions for a soft ignore or a hard ignore. I've also seen the expression of a partial ignore. I'd like to say I invented the distinction between soft ignores and hard ignores because I'd never seen the terms before I posted them somewhere, but I don't think I can claim the credit. I'll just say what the terms mean FOR ME.
PARTIAL IGNORE: Per Praetonia's suggestion, this type of IGNORE is very specialized. It is limited to a particular thread (for instance, if I posted something like "OMG I'M EXECUTING CATS!" a country might ignore that particular thread but may not ignore the country that posts the thread in general) or to a particular equipment. For instance, a player may ignore superdreadnaughts or Tungsten rods but not the country that uses them. This is often seen when a piece of technology is not feasible (for instance, a modern tech fighter jet that flies at Mach 8 or an aircraft carrier that is totally invisible).
SOFT IGNORE: This essentially means that you've read a nation's posts and you're not impressed. Whether his syntax or usage is poor or you just don't like him for some reason you can't put your finger on, you just make a note not to read his threads or participate in them. You might RP with him if he happens to appear in a thread that you're involved with if the other players accept him, but you didn't contact him. In my case, this is just a mental list of people I choose not to read, but I haven't gone so far as to put a Jolt IGNORE on them.
HARD IGNORE: This means that you have either announced you are ignoring this country or you use the Jolt features to block the display of their posts from your screen when you are logged in. A hard ignore in an RP means that you do not acknowledge that they have done anything. A hard ignore of a country as a whole means that the country does not exist in your mind. Nothing more, nothing less. It is bad form to RP as if a country exists if you have announced that you ignore that country. In my opinion, it is bad form to unignore some country in an attempt to get at it in a war. If a country that you do RP with mentions the country you ignore in a post, you may RP as if that country were never mentioned.
DEATH PENALTY IGNORE: This is a subset of the hard ignore, but it merits its own category. While a hard ignore means that a nation doesn't exist, a death penalty ignore means that a particular country NEVER existed in your RP world. This is reserved for the most egregious violations of NS protocol and are rarely ever imposed. One example of this is Communist Mississippi/Decisive Action/VoteEarly after the player received a DOS (Delete On Sight) ban.
In addition, I sometimes use a HARD IGNORE on someone I choose not to RP with for reasons that have nothing to do with their RPs. One example is someone who posted graphic threads that I didn't want to read in public places such as libraries or *cough* my job. Another example is someone who flamed me OOC.
Ignoring a country during a war for actions when the ignore isn't legitimate (for instance, a country who RPs a smaller force legitimately beating your larger army or knocking out your supply lines) will get looked down upon. Ignoring a country for so-called number wanking or Godmoding is legitimate. It does NOT mean that the number wanking country has "won" anything except alienation.
If you are the country that's being ignored, your only acceptable course of action is to leave the country who is ignoring you alone. In the most extreme cases, it means he does not want to RP with you. Continuing to post in that country's threads even though you are ignored is grounds for moderator intervention.