NationStates Jolt Archive


Trouble in the water off Sanctaphrax

Dracoinus
22-10-2004, 17:48
As the stream of vessels converged on the Sanctaphrax coast line a freighter flagged from the esteemed Nation of Jonothana slipped into the long line of vessels packed with military ordinance heading for Sanctaphrax.

It was a military freighter with supply goods for the troops sent to aid Sanctaphrax in a possible conflict. The battered hull had seen its crew through many exciting events over the years and logged hundreds of thousands of nautical miles at sea. But today was different. An erie lull was about the crew on this day, surrounded by military vessels flagged from several Nations.
McLeod03
22-10-2004, 18:03
<Bridge of the SS Mountain Wanderer, tailing the convoy>

"Sir. A new ship just joined the convoy. She looks fairly beaten up. Perhaps we should get a little closer. Might mean some extra business" reported the First Officer.

"Very well. Give the order Malcolm" replied the Captain, a tall man in his late 50's, with a stereotypical beard and a weather beaten face.


<Exterior>

The ship ploughed on through the waves, picking up speed, her powerful twin diesel engines biting hard into the water. As far as anyone could tell, she was an ageing salvage vessel. Paint peeled from her super-structure and bow, and civilian crew worked hard on repairing a large crane over the rear deck, which appeared to have jammed into its stowed position.
Dracoinus
22-10-2004, 18:08
The Jonothana freighter cruised along in the dreary night time sky, its been a long push through the "traffic" in bound to Sanctaphrax. Huge military dispatchments numbering hundreds of thousands of men and equipment were inbound for Sanctaphrax along with thousands of supply ships carrying everything from food and equipment to medical supplies and fuel required to operate all the heavy armor.
Sanctaphrax
22-10-2004, 18:11
guys, give it up. His ineccesant numberwanking is annoying me.
DRACOINUS... IGNORED. THIS THREAD... IGNORED.
Dracoinus
22-10-2004, 18:21
OOC: Sanctaphrax your troubles ARE ONLY JUST beginning.
Dumpsterdam
22-10-2004, 18:29
OOC: Sanctaphrax your troubles ARE ONLY JUST beginning.

OoC: Your ignored for numberwanking, live with it or change it.
Sanctaphrax
22-10-2004, 18:32
OOC: Sanctaphrax your troubles ARE ONLY JUST beginning.
How do I explain this. There are no troubles, if there are then it won't come from you, your puppets, or your allies. You don't exist as far as i'm concerned.
Sanctaphrax
22-10-2004, 18:44
I've put in a moderation request for all the Dracoinus-Sanctaphrax threads to be locked.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 00:42
OOC: if you are choosing to IGNORE me Sanctaphrax then refrain from posting in my threads.
Drum Gods
23-10-2004, 00:47
I thought this had all ended.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 00:53
OOC: It seems SANCTAPHRAX cant let it go, he is going around to every thread putting "I am asking the mods to lock every thread with Sanctaphrax and Dracoinus in it.

Stupid little kid. He has zero intelligence.
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 00:55
So then why can't you refrain from making posts about him if you know that he has ignored you? That is also a zero-intelligence point. Stop acting like you know anything and everything and that you own this forum.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:12
Drac, your attacks are being ignored by the community. Even if we did respond, I'd deploy my Marines against you and steam roll your finest in hours. Remember how long it took to conquer France? 3 Days, and they had superior armor units then the Germans. I'll blitz you with Heavy Armor even plasma weapons must pray to destroy in time. I care not for stupidity, I'm a Fascist in RL and here. Your over, oh, and your lil nuke thing..I know how to detonate nukes in your own country..don't push it.

Oh, and try to declare War on Wolfchester, its only a Chapter, you'll merely trigger the Imperium of Man to turn its attention towards you, then I'm ignoring any sort of technology constraint and you'll have the Machine Spirit howling in your ears...
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:13
This is my thread that I started prior to his "ignore" I thought it was in bad taste for him to go around and just throw junk in on this thread, plus I was responding to someone who had said they thought this was all over with already.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:15
It ended when you even tried to understand military, you have no credentials.
DemonLordEnigma
23-10-2004, 01:23
Dracoinus, you are on my ignore list.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:23
Wolfchester you have no idea what I do in RL so I think you should refrain from making comments like that.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:25
OOC: noted DemonLordEnigma, I am sure you have broken my "heart" by putting me on ignore.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:25
You don't know me in RL either, yet, I have proven I have more concept of military then you do..

Come on, you don't get noticed by MPRI for knowing nothing, and I could be in MPRI in 5 years no hands down..probably sooner if Id esired it so.

I'm bored with you Drac, you know, the Russian leader Stalin had more grasp on military matters then you, and he executed every officer in his army.
DemonLordEnigma
23-10-2004, 01:32
Dracoinus, you just got on the ignore list of a newbie who has no observable RP experience to most people on here. That's embarassing.

I haven't even been in the military and I already have shown a greater knowledge of it, which is even more embarassing. And let's not forget your godmodding in one topic.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:34
I shall slip into CS terms for a moment now..

P-W-N-E-D


Close this topic, I'm thinking of words to confuse Drac, it might get hard on his brain and convince him to go more god moder.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:35
You have proven nothing.

Your armor or weapons or anything else in your "arsenal" is irrelevant since you would have to cross a body of water to put them ashore.

And every logistics officer knows that "armor" on a ship in the middle of the water is just a giant anchor waiting to be sent to the bottom.

They hope (in a real conflict) the shear number of vessels that a percentage of landings will make it ashore, they already figure in the attrition loss due to sinkage before the troops are dispatched.

In a modern conflict involving an omi-potent super power like the United States logistics planners do not worry about those concerns as a rival OP-Force is incapable of dispatching enough firepower to deter the current battle fleets. Plus the reprisals from the US would be fast and fierce knowing that a Soverign Nation has attacked US military vessels. This is an act of war and would be meet with a total hard handed policy against the offending Nation.

IN the NS world you are looking at two or several Mega Super Powers that exceed the force capability of the current United States. This would make almost any target sitting in open waters an easy target without the fear of immediate and victorious reprisals, considering the depth of defense and volume of Military Hardware deployed by most NS Nations.
The Roman Party
23-10-2004, 01:37
Send us 1,000,000,000,000 (1 Trillion) in your currency!
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:38
The Empire of Dracoinus has no need to exchange currency with you.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:40
Hold on, you think I need ships? Who needs Ship, I call Upon The Imperium of Man.

Thus, battle Barges are deployed, and massive strike pods hurled into the ground destroying the regions about them by the sheer impact, then Land Raiders and Predators roll out. At the same time, We'd declare an Extermanitus upon you, and Leave it to the Inqusitors.

Mang... You don't know much about Naval Warfare either..

1. Logistic officers do not care about the armor on a ship in relation to nick names. Logistic officers get WEAPONS on those ship, with the RIGHT people.

2. Redundacies. The Bizmark took more damage then any other comparable ship in the War of the 1938-1945 period, yet kept going for some time. Redundancies.

3. The US can not ever go to war with either Russia, or China, they have SUPERIOR amounts of firepower, and inferior training, and massive numbers.

4. You just proved you really don't understand warfare. You are still thinking in Naval tactics, I'm thinking of Air transportation... You air drop in Divisions of Grunts whom secure a hold, and then land heavy transports..mang, you lost.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 01:46
Nope sorry, I have already thought of that, but in the pretext of this Drum Gods/ Sanctaphrax engagement they requested it be MT and not MT/FT.

My Nation is circa 2075 and is FT and is only a colony of the Imperial Draconian Sector.

I have plenty of FT and far superior I am sure. Just I was asked to roll back to MT because what I had posted as a threat they had no counter to. So being afraid of getting decimated they asked that it be based purely on MT with no orbital weapons and no space weapons.

You want to wage a full on FT war I can do that, but I doubt you will have a chance.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 01:48
..OMG, this guy is a riot..

Attention to All Readers:

The Imperium of Man has no chance against a small region in the unniverse, despite conquering All opposing forces against them save Chaos Marines, whom are in a region of Space that no one wishes to enter.

Yah, Drac..you don't know what a Chapter is, nor the Imperium of Man..
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 02:02
http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=wolfchester


Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Fair
Civil Rights Rating: Very Good
Political Freedoms: Below Average
Income Tax Rate: 35%
Major Industry: Basket Weaving
National Animal: wulf
National Currency: nup standard
Total Population: 9,000,000
Government Budget Details
Administration: $4,830,021,849.51 33%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $292,728,596.94 2%
Education: $0.00 0%
Religion & Spirituality: $1,317,278,686.23 9%
Defence: $1,610,007,283.17 11%
Law & Order: $3,951,836,058.69 27%
Commerce: $0.00 0%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $1,024,550,089.29 7%
Social Equality: $1,610,007,283.17 11%


VS

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=dracoinus

Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Corporate Police State
Government Priority: Defence
Economic Rating: Thriving
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Rare
Income Tax Rate: 77%
Major Industry: Information Technology
National Animal: dragon
National Currency: drake
Total Population: 992,000,000
Government Budget Details
Administration: $594,060,415,200.00 5%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $356,436,249,120.00 3%
Education: $1,663,369,162,560.00 14%
Religion & Spirituality: $950,496,664,320.00 8%
Defence: $4,039,610,823,360.00 34%
Law & Order: $2,851,489,992,960.00 24%
Commerce: $118,812,083,040.00 1%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $356,436,249,120.00 3%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%


Population of only 9,000,000 huh...... Sounds like a big threat to me

Wolfchester your region has 185 BILLION people, if you only make 9,000,000 of that, well then. You really are nothing. Maybe you should have your big brother come down the street to beat me up.. LOL
The Roman Party
23-10-2004, 02:03
The Empire of Dracoinus has no need to exchange currency with you.

It's for your safetly.....
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:03
Yes..9 Million, cut out 2 Million for old and young, and thats 7 Million actively involved with the War machine. Its becoming militarized..farms..military...gas stations..military

Its not a country, its a Chapter..Get used to it...Besides..I have tricks up my sleeves still.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 02:06
so your saying that 7 Million of your 9 Million population is all armed COMBATANTS... humm thats well over my 8,375,000 ACTIVE SOLIDERS out of a population of 992,000,000.

...... and you have a problem with MY figures....
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:06
Wolfchester your region has 185 BILLION people, if you only make 9,000,000 of that, well then. You really are nothing. Maybe you should have your big brother come down the street to beat me up.. LOL[/QUOTE]



Actually, the person whom convinced me to join the USSR, knows of those 9 Million people, I'd need less then a Million to take out your nation, with out any nukes or any thing... In a Small Squad based down play of it, I'd send you running on a squad to squad level...Don't irk me, 9 Million is merely one Chapter of the War Machine.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:08
Yes..but your Empire isn't based on a pre existing RP..

I'm tempted to deploy the Hell's Angel 1st Brigade now.
Dracoinus
23-10-2004, 02:08
HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA... yeah right....

Keep dreaming in fantasy land with your Imperium of Man

YOUR NOTHING.
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:10
OOC- Odd, didn't 40k was the game for scumbags...


Actually, the Imperium of Man is a 40k ideal. Whatever Dracoinus has made up is probably inferior to the tech deployed by the Imperium.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:10
Yep, now you did it. So did it.... You don't even know WHAT the Imperium of Man is..
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:11
Also, 40k RPers often have dislinked RPs with other players because of their thinking that because of the background of the nation they can afford to have millions of troops. This is not the case.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:11
OOC: Percisely, I'm conferring at this very moment with others, We are debating an Extermanitus. Care to Join in the butchery if it occurs?
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:13
I'm a Fascist in RL and here.
Doesn't matter
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:13
OOC: I'm not RPing a nation, I'm RPing a Chapter, and using Modern Tech for the most part <against some one with FT, I break out true WH40K style Weps, against MT, I keep with my modern Tech.>

My Population Reflects the region my Forces are covering, and how many of them are joining them.

Not only that, I'm RPing The God Emperor atm...*shrug* I have several million troops, it only goes up the more I reveal to the populace of the new generation armor..Like The Wulf heavy tank...people want to drive it..they enlist..pretty normal for a Fascist Nation using CLONING to fuel its military resources.
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:14
Exterminatus? O_o
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:15
You don't seem to understand. You cannot begin to comprehend how big the Munitorum Departmento is. And if you have so many troops, where are your supplies coming from? Even if your playing against FT nations, your going to get ignored.
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:16
OOC: When a nation shows the followings of Chaos, or threatens the God Emperor, an Extermanitus is allowed. It dictates killing every man, women, child, domestic animal, EVERY THING and then radiating the land. Its been employed by the inqusition, but also The Chapters...And he is threatening The God Emperor!
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:18
OOC: I'm gaining supplies by using injured soldiers to do jobs on farms they can handle etc. My military makes its own supplies, and there is a large amount of private work...

I do not keep every soldier standing, but they are given up to date training etc. Its alot like Israel..any one can be a soldier..every one is trained...understand it now?
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 02:20
OOC: When a nation shows the followings of Chaos, or threatens the God Emperor, an Extermanitus is allowed. It dictates killing every man, women, child, domestic animal, EVERY THING and then radiating the land. Its been employed by the inqusition, but also The Chapters...And he is threatening The God Emperor!

Oh yeah, like the planet Krieg?
Wolfchester
23-10-2004, 02:24
OOC: Not familar with that..do you think we can take this to AIM?? My SN is BlackOneHunter

I do not enjoy upping post counts in this manner.
Soviet Sovereignty
23-10-2004, 02:26
Ok, First off..Most Fleets never go over 10...And those that do would more likely be Entire Oceanic Fleets, or even Armadas.. The Ammount of RESOURCES needed for such events is Highly unthinkable...Deploying Hundreds of Thousands of Men with Thousands of Ships, No Preparations?

Even Wh40K Tech is Scratchy Compared to what I've been exposed too...I side with Wolfchester..As does the Nation of Koronov.

And while it may be difficult for some to Cross Bodies of Waters with a...'Defensive Beast'...Breathing down their neck..I doubt you could even KNOW of our Navies Existance, let alone detect an attack..
Tremalkier
23-10-2004, 02:38
This ends here.

Dracoinus you will cease and desist with all posts involving nations whom have either ignored you, or explicitely stated they do not want anything to do with you.

Nations against Dracoinus, you will cease and desist your bashing of him when you yourselves are doing many of the same things. If your ignoring him, then do it!

Now if either of you have a problem with this, I suggest you take a quick look at the following.

Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Compulsory Consumerist State
Government Priority: Defence
Economic Rating: Frightening
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Rare
Income Tax Rate: 51%
Major Industry: Uranium Mining
National Animal: Peregrine Falcon
National Currency: crown
Total Population: 3,503,000,000

Government Budget Details
Defence: $31,648,514,440,435.21 56%
Law & Order: $15,824,257,220,217.60 28%
Commerce: $9,042,432,697,267.20 16%

Tremalkier Economic Statistics
Exchange Rate: 1 crown = $1.6442
Gross Domestic Product: $109,304,690,197,916.81
GDP Per Capita: $31,203.17
Unemployment Rate: 4.44%
Consumption: $53,924,621,520,000.00
Government Budget: $62,794,671,508,800.00
Government Expenditures: $56,515,204,357,920.00


I rank in the top 100 of almost every economic and military statistic. My defense budget alone is around 6 times the combined budget of Dracoinus and Wolfchester. If I say your streets will run red with blood, build bigger sewers.

This ends now.
Soviet Sovereignty
23-10-2004, 02:42
Last post here, Could I just ask where the link is for that place? I had it about a month ago and then switched comps.
Tremalkier
23-10-2004, 02:45
http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=

then you put in your nation
IDF
23-10-2004, 02:53
IGNORED for numberwanking.
Sanctaphrax
23-10-2004, 11:08
All the people trying to get through to Dracoinus, just stop and give it up. He won't listen to you. Just ignore this thread and let him continue to RP with himself. Ignore him, let this thread die and don't try and fight him. This entire thread is purposeless anyway because all the Jonothanian ships mysteriously disappeared and reappeared in the Jonothanian docks. So don't respond to him.