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DG Jets Patrol the Middle East

Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:06
In a bold move a group of 3 G-Wing Stealth Fighters and 2 Hypersonic H-A Bombers have begun patrolling the skies above the middle east. Having taken off from their central command in Baghdad, Iraq the G-Wings have silently started flying recon missions while the Hypersonic bombers having been flying through the air above the middle east with a deafening, booming sound that is making their presence felt.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
BravoZulu
19-10-2004, 20:13
And these aircraft hace been deployed for what reason?
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:15
A strictly confidential reason.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Sanctaphrax
19-10-2004, 20:15
You'd better stay away from Israel. So much as one soldier sets foot in the Holy Land and you pay a heavy price.
Yevon of Spira
19-10-2004, 20:17
If this war is for religious beliefs, Yevon of Spira may have to step in to prevent any major conflict.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:17
Do not stand before us with such an unnecessary attitude considering we have offered to defend your nation.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Yevon of Spira
19-10-2004, 20:20
When did you offer to defend my nation?
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:22
That was a reference to Sanctaphrax. We have never encountered your nation before.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Yevon of Spira
19-10-2004, 20:26
Thanks for clearing that up. My statement still stands.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:29
We have never and will never war on the basis of religion. We war on the basis of profit, lebensraum (we are not Nazis) and the need to defend ourselves and our allies.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Sanctaphrax
19-10-2004, 20:29
Do not stand before us with such an unnecessary attitude considering we have offered to defend your nation.
Sorry, but just don't enter our Holy Land ok?
World wide allies
19-10-2004, 20:31
Sorry, but just don't enter our Holy Land ok?

The state of wwa, seconds this statement.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:36
We have no interest in any city that is held to be sacred.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Sanctaphrax
19-10-2004, 20:36
The state of wwa, seconds this statement.
BTW World Wide Allies, could you send some troops to aid in my defence?
Sanctaphrax
19-10-2004, 20:38
We have no interest in any city that is held to be sacred.

*cough country cough*
World wide allies
19-10-2004, 20:39
BTW World Wide Allies, could you send some troops to aid in my defence?

You got it, i'll tg you details.
Hogsweat
19-10-2004, 20:41
Make one false move and your dead.
Sanctaphrax
19-10-2004, 20:41
You got it, i'll tg you details.
Just post on the "Sanctaphrax steps up defensive measures" thread.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:42
Make one false move and your dead.


I'm sure the Emperor and his good allies in Garrison II are trembling at your words.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Hogsweat
19-10-2004, 20:43
OOh, Garrison II.. Scary!... Not. I repeat. Make one false move and your dead.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:46
I am glad you have the gaul to confront us so but yet you still retain an air of ambiguity. Please make it clear where we can make this false move?

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation
The Great Sixth Reich
19-10-2004, 20:48
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366720
IDF
19-10-2004, 20:51
IDF is going to red alert. If any RWC plane gets within 25 miles of Israeli territory, we will shoot it down.

IDF Aegis ships with the new SM-4ER missile are ready to join the AF in intercepting any planes that violate IDF or any of our allies.

We note all of these weaons are defensive in nature and will only be used to protect Israel.

F-35 and F-22 fighters with E767s are now patroling IDF airspace at this time for added protection.
Hogsweat
19-10-2004, 20:55
You know what a false move is.
Comrade Josef Dorsal
Comrade Electorate of the PSRH
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 20:56
We have no interest in Israel whatsoever. We are not a muslim nation in fact our percentage of muslims stands at 2%. Stop jumping to any conclusion concerning war. These are newly designed routine patrol and recon operations.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: I couldn't give a shit about Israel seriously!
IDF
19-10-2004, 20:57
We have no interest in Israel whatsoever. We are not a muslim nation in fact our percentage of muslims stands at 2%. Stop jumping to any conclusion concerning war. These are newly designed routine patrol and recon operations.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and the RWC
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: I couldn'y give a shit about Israel seriously!
OOC: I do own the Sinai, which is on your list.
World wide allies
19-10-2004, 21:05
Just post on the "Sanctaphrax steps up defensive measures" thread.

Posted. Check it out, large mobilization numbers :D.
IDF
19-10-2004, 21:05
IDF will step down to yellow alert and change the shoot down zone to within our own borders. We will keep a close watch on this situation though.
Garrison II
19-10-2004, 21:12
OOh, Garrison II.. Scary!... Not. I repeat. Make one false move and your dead.

Big words for such a young nation.... Yes I consider Nov 2003 nations young....
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 21:15
No respect for their elders these young'uns.
BravoZulu
19-10-2004, 21:16
These are newly designed routine patrol and recon operations.


3 G-Wing Stealth Fighters and 2 Hypersonic H-A Bombers

never knew bombers were needed for a routine patrol and recon operation...
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 21:17
Well now you know they are.
BravoZulu
19-10-2004, 21:18
Sorry, but just don't enter our Holy Land ok?

the socialist states of bravozulu endorces this statement
World wide allies
19-10-2004, 21:20
No respect for their elders these young'uns.

I hope your not refering to me. :p

I have a larger population than you, ya'know.
Drum Gods
19-10-2004, 21:25
I hope your not refering to me. :p

I have a larger population than you, ya'know.

If I hadn't been away so long i 'd have a giant population. Anyway, I'm still older ;) but no I wasn't refering to you.
World wide allies
19-10-2004, 21:29
Heh, i suppose you got me there.

Ah well. :)
Greenmanbry
20-10-2004, 11:23
Greenmanbry shall be keeping a close eye on the situation.

Secret IC:

The Red Sea fleets have been deployed to Aqaba, Sana'a, and Jeddah.
Blacktower
20-10-2004, 11:28
(ooc: drumgods, were still waiting for you to clear up that stuff with Spencer&Wellington...)
Vrak
20-10-2004, 13:06
If I hadn't been away so long i 'd have a giant population. Anyway, I'm still older ;) but no I wasn't refering to you.

OOC: Drum Gods, could you please stop crying about "what could have been" in regards to your population? It's getting old. Everyone else suffers the same fate if they leave and their nation is deleted due to inactivity but they don't whinge about it.
Lasatania
20-10-2004, 14:19
Lasatanian Air Force, High Command, 20/10/04 - 11:05hrs

General Berevsky is on the phone to Group Captain Kolovosky..

"So captain, you reckon our new XF4 could take out a patrol that far away from our nation??"

[Lasatania ia a large island off the east coast of Korea..]

"Well Sir... I mean, this things range is unbelievable, I pushed one over 1800km the other day and its performance is far better than I expected but it sure isn't an intercontinental fighter.. probably the closest thing to one but not yet.."

"Very well captain, your comments are much appreciated.."
Hogsweat
20-10-2004, 19:30
I'm a revived april 04. =D Not, Nov 03.


Do not underestimate us, or it shall be your undoing.
Comrade Josef Dorsal
Comrade Electorate of the PSRH
Shalrirorchia
20-10-2004, 19:49
Secretary of Defense George Beregovoy arrived at Shalrirorchia's Egyptian holdings today to conduct an inspection of the U.S.S. defenses in the region. U.S.S. military presence in the Middle East has been in decline ever since GIA terrorists hijacked a U.S.S. military facility and used it to launch a toxin missile at the IDF. Beregovoy expressed "Shalrirorchia's solidarity" with Israel in a public meeting with the press.

(Picture of Beregovoy standing in front of an Shalrirorchian Tomcat)
"The U.S.S. stands along with the other nations of the Free World, including Israel. We recognize that our friends in the IDF have the right to defend themselves."

Some analysts believe that Beregovoy's visit is designed to define a border in the Middle East to contain Drum Gods, a top policy priority of the Gistarai Administration. In addition, although the GIA has not been responsible for a major attack since the IDF incident, U.S.S. Special Forces are still engaged in hunting down various splinter cells of the Islamic terrorist group.
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 20:07
OOC: Toldja that nation is a warmongering wanker. These flights are inflammatory, he knows it, he just wants to wave it around. Whoopie!

I would remind the "old fuddyduddies" that age doesn't matter at all - as per the Moderators. So do stop slapping yourselves on the back, its old and tiresome.
Yevon of Spira
20-10-2004, 21:03
I agree. Drum Gods, you are getting very annoying. Why can't you just agree that your nation DIED. All of your citizens got the plague of someting. All but about the 6 million that a new nation begins with.
Hogsweat
20-10-2004, 21:09
new nations don't begin with 600 million. He died, he got revived. Simple. You can't say "OMG U REVIVVLED URSLEF LoL I INGORE ALL UR REVIVVLED POPLASTON." He isn't getting annoying, he's just a warmongerer.
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 21:21
new nations don't begin with 600 million. He died, he got revived. Simple. You can't say "OMG U REVIVVLED URSLEF LoL I INGORE ALL UR REVIVVLED POPLASTON." He isn't getting annoying, he's just a warmongerer.

Sorry, but I'm only accepting the October 2004 date. *black eyes the bully*
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 21:25
I've lost about a billion people off my population anyway so tough to anyone who does not like that. My current population stands at 2.4billion that is fair considering what it should be. Furthermore, I do not go around saying what I could be I got asked following a statement where someone else said they had a bigger nation than me. If you do not like the situation do not RP because I have not asked you to.
The Great Sixth Reich
20-10-2004, 21:33
You going to attend the summit or what?
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 21:35
I've lost about a billion people off my population anyway so tough to anyone who does not like that. My current population stands at 2.4billion that is fair considering what it should be. Furthermore, I do not go around saying what I could be I got asked following a statement where someone else said they had a bigger nation than me. If you do not like the situation do not RP because I have not asked you to.

GREAT! how about you avoid me and all my allies, and everything will be kosher? Agreed? Kewl! TTFN and bye-bye! :p
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 21:37
You can avoid me because you're the one that is obviously scared and so wants to make up an excuse not to cross my path.
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 21:43
You can avoid me because you're the one that is obviously scared and so wants to make up an excuse not to cross my path.

No, I don't want to argue with a Oct 2004 warmonger with delusions of grandeur. So, simply put, begone. The posturing was old long before you were born and looks just as ridiculous now as it did then.
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 21:47
Excuse me? And you are? You mean what to me? You deluded little young nation my, my and you accuse of having visions of grandeur yet I have already achieved them a long time ago. There is nothing wrong with warmongering as that has always been our speciality while you just seem to be a scared little runt that wants an OOC excuse to avoid being in an IC conflict in which you would be annihilated. I never asked for you to RP with me and therefore I subsequently ask you to fuck off as you have already stuck your nose in for no good reason for long enough.

Thank you.

And it's January 2003 Nation actually.
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 21:51
*reads "Join Date: October 2004"*

as to the rest of the posturing - do stop soon, my sides hurt from laughing at you.
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 21:52
What? What was that? No that is the join date for joining this board and oh yeah:

Zip it.

You're sounding more and more like a fool.
Shangia
20-10-2004, 22:07
Excuse me? And you are? You mean what to me? You deluded little young nation my, my and you accuse of having visions of grandeur yet I have already achieved them a long time ago. There is nothing wrong with warmongering as that has always been our speciality while you just seem to be a scared little runt that wants an OOC excuse to avoid being in an IC conflict in which you would be annihilated. I never asked for you to RP with me and therefore I subsequently ask you to fuck off as you have already stuck your nose in for no good reason for long enough.

Thank you.

And it's January 2003 Nation actually.
that's right. I was here when he was. With my main nation that is.
Shangia
20-10-2004, 22:18
No, I don't want to argue with a Oct 2004 warmonger with delusions of grandeur. So, simply put, begone. The posturing was old long before you were born and looks just as ridiculous now as it did then.
exuse me but I remember Drum Gods from January 2003 which over a year before my old main nation (which was december 2002) got deated.
Just ask any of the 2002 to March 2003 nations.
Shangia
20-10-2004, 22:19
What's up DG?
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 22:24
Not too much just trying to re-establish my reputation among all the new nations that hadn't heard of me before. Most of the RPs have been fun but one or two nations can't understand the fact that I was created in January 2003 which is ruining the fun to some extent. I'm still part of GDODAD etc etc
Katganistan
20-10-2004, 22:30
Excuse me? And you are? You mean what to me? You deluded little young nation my, my and you accuse of having visions of grandeur yet I have already achieved them a long time ago. There is nothing wrong with warmongering as that has always been our speciality while you just seem to be a scared little runt that wants an OOC excuse to avoid being in an IC conflict in which you would be annihilated. I never asked for you to RP with me and therefore I subsequently ask you to fuck off as you have already stuck your nose in for no good reason for long enough.

Thank you.

And it's January 2003 Nation actually.

Drum Gods, knock it off. You MAY NOT flame other players.
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 22:35
They were having a go at me for no reason and essentially destroyed an RP. You tell me how best to get rid of them considering they were provoking me? I believe what I said dealt with that person effectively and was necessary for that situation.
Katganistan
20-10-2004, 22:53
They were having a go at me for no reason and essentially destroyed an RP. You tell me how best to get rid of them considering they were provoking me? I believe what I said dealt with that person effectively and was necessary for that situation.

Telling someone to fuck off is not appropriate and you should know it, given how long you're supposed to have been around. Neither is calling people who have told you to leave them and their allies alone scared little runts OOCly.

Play nicely, or it will be an official warning.
Sigma Octavus
20-10-2004, 22:55
An easy way to fix this, DG, is to just say that your nation was destroyed. The survivors eventually got back together and reformed it as a new nation. Also, the GDODAD died. Again.
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 22:58
No GDODAD is not dead and no I will not downsize my nation for your sake.
Katganistan, fine point taken but there was provocation.
IDF
20-10-2004, 22:59
An easy way to fix this, DG, is to just say that your nation was destroyed. The survivors eventually got back together and reformed it as a new nation. Also, the GDODAD died. Again.
OOC: Is this the UWB story? LOL!!!
Drum Gods
20-10-2004, 23:04
OOC: Underwater bubble?
Sarzonia
21-10-2004, 03:44
Sarzonian Navy Chief Kathy Bunhall has announced that two of the country's largest naval fleets have been deployed to protect Sarzonian and allied interests in world trouble spots.

The First Fleet under decorated Admiral Marcus Patinkin is being deployed to IDF, while the Second Fleet under Rear Admiral Stephen Marcus is steaming toward Greenmanbry. Each fleet has over 200 warships, including support vessels.

[OOC: Each fleet contains:

Each fleet contains:

One Freedom-class superdreadnaught
Two Vengeance-class supercarriers
Four Royal Holly-class heavy carriers
Two Glacier-class Trimaran carriers
Three Ocean-class battleships
One Resolute-class battleship
Three Arizona-class battleships
Two Volunteer-class battleships
Three Sea-class battlecruisers
Two Truxtun-class battlecruisers
Four Alliance-class supercruisers
Two Praeton-class heavy missile cruisers
Four Randolph-class heavy cruisers
Eight Ithaca-class light cruisers
Twenty County-class AA destroyers
Twenty City-class general purpose destroyers
Five Evermore-class destroyers
Twelve Wixted-class stealth frigates
Six Seminole-class corvettes
Five Piranha-class missile boats
Eight Stalwart-class SSBNs
Six Julianus-class SSGNs
Ten Halibut-class SSNs

Plus each fleet's support vessels]
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 04:00
Any aggressive action taken against Hogsweat will not be met upon very lightly. We see your threats as empty, and humorous in the very least. You must remember that there are many nations who are ready to stand up to your offensive nature, including myself, and the aid of my allies, in order to prevent you from gaining territory which isn't rightfully yours.

Garrison II doesn't scare me one bit.

I am a member of GDODAD, but not a single nation has t-grammed me or informed me of any information in forever. It is in my belief that GDODAD is 3/4th's dead.
Wolfish
21-10-2004, 19:55
Any aggressive action taken against Hogsweat will not be met upon very lightly. We see your threats as empty, and humorous in the very least. You must remember that there are many nations who are ready to stand up to your offensive nature, including myself, and the aid of my allies, in order to prevent you from gaining territory which isn't rightfully yours.

Garrison II doesn't scare me one bit.

I am a member of GDODAD, but not a single nation has t-grammed me or informed me of any information in forever. It is in my belief that GDODAD is 3/4th's dead.

If Drum Gods took a run at Hogsweat, I'd grab a piece of that action - lets call it returning a favour.

TAG - Reserved for future action.

As for the accusations of flaming - too many of these noobish nations have to learn to check before they post. Re-creation dates are all too common these days. Drum Gods was a terror on this forum long before most of them had heard of NS...and whether you like the person's style or not - respect to the player is required - I certainly saw a significant lack of that before DG "flamed".
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 20:00
If Drum Gods took a run at Hogsweat, I'd grab a piece of that action - lets call it returning a favour.


On which side? Would you be attacking DG or Hogsweat?
Wolfish
21-10-2004, 20:02
On which side? Would you be attacking DG or Hogsweat?

I'd be helping DGs
Sarzonia
21-10-2004, 20:03
As for the accusations of flaming - too many of these noobish nations have to learn to check before they post. Re-creation dates are all too common these days. Drum Gods was a terror on this forum long before most of them had heard of NS...and whether you like the person's style or not - respect to the player is required - I certainly saw a significant lack of that before DG "flamed".
[OOC: The way I saw things unfold over several threads, most of the disrespect was directed toward the "noobish" nations by Drum Gods. Even if the "noobish" nations started it, two wrongs don't make a right. There are more appropriate and more productive ways of handling flaming or flamebaiting than by returning fire.

As for me, I check before I post since I've seen way too many resurrected nations for me to just look at a join date. HOWEVER, just because someone's join date is later doesn't mean they're automatically a lesser RPer. A "small" country run by a very good RPer can out-RP the snot out of a "large" country run by a poor RPer.]
Wolfish
21-10-2004, 20:06
Drum Gods tactics are well-known, at least to those that do research. He provotes smaller nations into starting a conflict - he crushes that nation and occupies it. It's a pretty simply tactic...and it is different than flaming.
IDF
21-10-2004, 20:10
If he touches Hogsweat, he'll have to fight me.
Sanctaphrax
21-10-2004, 20:12
If he touches Hogsweat, he'll have to fight me.
And me.
Wolfish
21-10-2004, 20:15
If he touches Hogsweat, he'll have to fight me.

Oh...well then, I guess I'll just have to pack up and go home.
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 20:15
And me.
and me...I suppose..
The Great Sixth Reich
21-10-2004, 20:27
and me...I suppose..

And me. (I'm Feb. 2004)
World wide allies
21-10-2004, 20:38
Hell, as part of the ANP me too.
Drum Gods
21-10-2004, 21:21
Well we have no intention of attacking Hogsweat this was just an announcement of our patrol actions concerning the middle east.
Kryozerkia
21-10-2004, 22:41
We only recognize Drum Gods' October 2004 population.

Further, we will not tolerate any form of agression towards any one of our allies. So, back off or we will take action.
Sarzonia
21-10-2004, 22:43
If he touches Hogsweat, he'll have to fight me.
And me.
DontPissUsOff
21-10-2004, 22:47
Ditto.
Drum Gods
21-10-2004, 22:51
We only recognize Drum Gods' October 2004 population.

Further, we will not tolerate any form of agression towards any one of our allies. So, back off or we will take action.


Well our October 2004 population was 2.4billion which is the one I have been using so I do not see your point :confused:
Hogsweat
21-10-2004, 22:52
See Drum Gods? We have glorious allies and they have rallied to the cause of defending their ally. You would be foolish to attack me.

I suggest that you halt patrolling Airspace that is not yours... or something may get shot down.
Drum Gods
21-10-2004, 22:55
We are patrolling the whole middle east. Nothing specific. Nothing will be shot down. If it is then you are the one inviting war and we have sufficient allies who would gladly help us. This never had anything to do with war. You simply jumped to that conclusion.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Hogsweat
21-10-2004, 23:10
If your jets are within violation space of a Destroyer acting in the Red Sea, PNV Riaawe [Translates to "Tosser"] then we will take it as an action of assault.

You have no right to patrol airspace that is not yours.
Drum Gods
21-10-2004, 23:18
OOC: Tosser. Interesting.


IC:

Wherever our patrol missions end up we doubt you will detect the presence of the aircraft.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 Nation
The Parthians
21-10-2004, 23:24
Any DG planes over Parthian Iran will be shot down without warning.
Vastiva
21-10-2004, 23:32
We are patrolling the whole middle east. Nothing specific. Nothing will be shot down. If it is then you are the one inviting war and we have sufficient allies who would gladly help us. This never had anything to do with war. You simply jumped to that conclusion.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 Nation


Repeated lies are still lies. And you are a fool for believing any would believe yours.

Any aircraft of yours detected over Vastivan airspace will be taken as an Act of War by you, and summarilly destroyed.

Any aircraft of yours detected over Allied airspace will be taken as an Act of War by you, and summarilly destroyed.

The same applies to any naval craft of yours in our waters, or those of our allies, and to any of your military upon our lands or those of our allies.

Provocative actions are apparently your speciality. The world knows this, and knows you as what you are. Begone, Spawn of Satan! The line is drawn and your lies are apparent as what they are.

General Riva Sola al-Din
Commander
Vastivan Armed Services
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva
Drum Gods
21-10-2004, 23:34
Our aircraft will go where they want and I doubt they will be detected so keep spouting your threats. They are of much amusement to us.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 Nation
IDF
21-10-2004, 23:46
Message to allies:

If you want to detect the DG planes, use Aegis radars or similar systems. Those radars can send over a dozen million watts of power down a half degree bearing and will be very effective in detecting the planes from a few hundred miles away. AWACs planes, especially the E-767, will be effective along with powerful search Radars.
(end)

Message to DG: If a single warplane enters IDF airspace, it will be seen as an act of war.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 23:50
Our aircraft will go where they want and I doubt they will be detected so keep spouting your threats. They are of much amusement to us.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 NationWhittier declares its opposition to this gross imperialism.
:( I only have 40 Mig 29 Fulcrums in my air force. :(
_Taiwan
22-10-2004, 00:14
OOC: Specs of aircraft?
IC:

The ROC believes DG is being unduely arrogant in extending air patrols of territories of foreign nations.

Taiwanese Ambassador
Whittier-
22-10-2004, 00:28
We are patrolling the whole middle east. Nothing specific. Nothing will be shot down. If it is then you are the one inviting war and we have sufficient allies who would gladly help us. This never had anything to do with war. You simply jumped to that conclusion.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
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Member of GDODAD, Allied to Metus
Member of the Central Powers and RWC
A January 2003 Nation
Your aircraft are not welcome in Iran, Israel or any part of the middle east except Iraq.
Whittier fully demands a halt to your aggressions. Whittier hereby offers two armored divisions and 50,000 troops (equipped with OICW Assualt Rifles),
2,000 M1A1 battle tanks, and 5 Kilo Class Attack Submarines for deployment in defense of freindly middle eastern nations.
Each armored division is composed of: 7,430 combat soldiers, 13,460 Logistics Support
320 M1A2 Main Battle Tank
405 M2A3 Bradley IFV
215 M113A2 APC
81 M109A6 Paladin
27 M270 MRLS
45 M247 Sergeant York
18 M163 Vulcan
54 Stryker ICV
18 PAC-3 Missile Systems
27 MIM-23 HawkB SAM
45 AH-64 Apache
36 AH-1W Cobra
72 CH-47 Chinooks
36 UH-60 Blackhawks
9 AVLB
27 Combat Engineer Tractors
M728 Combat Engineer Tank
2000 HMMWV (400 equipped with M2 .50 MG, 200 Avenger, and 250 TOW II equipt)
1200 Various Trucks
the soldiers in these divisions are armed with the XM 8 assualt rifle.

Can't spare any planes.

(Since it looks like Parthia is doing Iran, I will need assistance get this stuff from Mexico and Guatemala to the Mid east area.)
The Island of Rose
22-10-2004, 00:30
Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

Due to the blatant disregard for borders, we condemn the nation of Drum Gods and pledge to support our fellow NATO allies if an incident occurs. And we really will help them, we will.
-Minister of Foreign Affairs: Rosta Einvach
Greenmanbry
22-10-2004, 00:51
Any plane attempting to enter the Sudan's or Chad's airspace will be downed without warning.

Our fleets in the Red Sea are deployed, and will respond to any unwarranted DG presence in the Red Sea with force.
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 01:39
*Task Force Bravo - Indian Ocean*

"HELM - Come about. Course 305. Signal the fleet. We're heading to the Red Sea."

"Aye Admiral, coming to Course 305."

====================
TASKFORCE BRAVO

2 ACC – Nimitz Class

5 Howl-Class GM Cruisers

6 Aegis Destroyers

7 Mako Frigate

3 BB-61 Battleships

4 Arsenal Ships

3 SeaWolf Attack Subs

2 Fast Supply Ships, 2 oilers, 1 convoy cargo/repair vessel.

====================
Euroslavia
22-10-2004, 02:03
With the overwhelming amount of support going towards Hogsweat, including the nations of Euroslavia, Greenmanbry, Vastiva, The Island of Rose, IDF, Sarzonia, DPUO, Kryozerkia, The Great Sixth Reich, Sanctaphrax, and World Wide Allies; and I'm sure, there are more to come, we strongly recommend that Drum Gods step down, along with his ally, Wolfish. Our will and strength to defeat you far surpasses what you may think. The entire alliance of NATO would back us up, including the nations of Automagfreek, Sigma Octavus, Celack, Chellis, and many others. Not to mention the alliances of the nations pledging their support, such as the ANP, the region of the Kingdom of the Midlands, and others that would flock to stop your blatant Imperialism. I would be careful about your next move, it may be your last.

Countless times have you declared that you were going to invade and take back the territories that you used to administer a long time ago. New nations occupy these areas, and for you to feel that you have the right to take them back is an insult to not only these other nations, but it is an insult to you, and to the citizens of these territories that are no longer under your grasp. We must warn you that your set path currently, is leading you into the path of destruction, stepping on the toes of countless nations, and walking around as if all should bow down to your nation. We see right through your ignorant claims, and Euroslavia will be there to stand in your way of Imperial domination of your former territories. We will not stand idly by while our allies are unjustly invaded, only because they own territory that used to be yours.

We invite you to make your next move, and pray to God that your actions do not lead to the loss of lives for thousands, if not millions of innocent people out there.
The Parthians
22-10-2004, 02:09
Any entry of IDF, Greenmanbry, or Parthian airspace will result in a declaration of war on DG.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-10-2004, 02:37
If you do not request clearence from an ATC (Just file a flight path with The Great Sixth Reich Office of Aviation Services (GSROAS) and your cleared through, as long as you maintain a constant altitude of 30,000) within our airspace (Germany, Poland, the Maldives, East Timor, and and Midway Islands), your planes will be "escorted" back out by F-25 Hawk Fighters. We have over 4,000 SAMs and 1,000 F-25 Hawks, in additional to 9 E-3 Sentrys and 15 KC-35 tankers scattered around in Germany, Poland, the Maldives, East Timor, and the Midway Islands.
DontPissUsOff
22-10-2004, 02:40
Headquarters of the Middle East Naval Forces

"Egad!" exclaimed Rear-Admiral Adam Hart. "Not another order?!"
"'Fraid so sir," replied the seaman standing holding the message in front of him. Hart took the slip of paper and shook his head as he read it, sighing tiredly. "Alright, thankyou. Dismissed, seaman." The young man hoofed it out of the room as Hart pondered the message. He didn't have the time to go over this with his staff. The crisis could develop far too rapidly. He picked up a satellite telephone and ordered all of his available submarines to sea.
IDF
22-10-2004, 02:58
Commander Scott Seizmore, the CO of the Farragat class DDG ISS Peregrine was looking over the Radar screen.

"Power up the SPY-1G to full power Lt.," ordered Seizmore. As The Radar operator powered up the Radar, the screen lit up. The Destroyer was steaming in the Red Sea.

Seizmore waited as the powerufl Radar of the Aegis II system went to full power. When it went up, Seizmore ordered the 12 million watts of active Radar power to go down a 1/2 degree bearing and to scan from 065-125 sweeping back and forth until targets were found.

The 12 million watts found some some of the DG planes quickly. Once they were found, the SPY-1G would send active Radar pulses towards them to let the pilots know they were being tracked. The Powerful SPY-1G did this from a range of 195 miles to the DG planes.

"So much for their great stealth," chuckled Seizmore.
Wirraway
22-10-2004, 03:17
OOC: Well I wonder whose puppet is Klingon.....IDF's perhaps.
IDF
22-10-2004, 03:22
OOC: Well I wonder whose puppet is Klingon.....IDF's perhaps.
OOC: and he won't be involved with IDF as I don't think Klingons are even humans and are a part of the Star Trek Universe and I don't see Israel on Star Trek (I'm a trekkie and I'm pretty sure of that fact.) I'm going to have fun with my Klingon nation and made the national animal the Tribble (if you've seen the original series episode with tribbles, you will find that funny.)
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 03:42
Any aggressive action taken against Hogsweat will not be met upon very lightly. We see your threats as empty, and humorous in the very least. You must remember that there are many nations who are ready to stand up to your offensive nature, including myself, and the aid of my allies, in order to prevent you from gaining territory which isn't rightfully yours.

Garrison II doesn't scare me one bit.

I am a member of GDODAD, but not a single nation has t-grammed me or informed me of any information in forever. It is in my belief that GDODAD is 3/4th's dead.

So you'd be fighting two memebers of GDODAD? I didn't know you were part of my alliance....And no I'd doubt Nato would back you to protect Hogsweat due to the fact that Hogsweat as made numerous imperialist actions against Capitalist nations and annexations, the the Annexation of Grenada, Annexation of Virgin Islands, Invasion of Falklands Islands, Naval movements against Doomingsland begin, Declaration of War against The New Aryan State, and one other notable incident that I'll post a link to..
World wide allies
22-10-2004, 14:27
Lets not let this Incident escalate.

Drum Gods, your obviously recieving high opposition to the idea of your jets patrolling the middle east, so it is suggested that you back down.
Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 14:35
Our aircraft will go where they want and I doubt they will be detected so keep spouting your threats. They are of much amusement to us.[OOC: No matter what kind of stealth aircraft you have, it's not IMPOSSIBLE to detect anything in modern tech. To claim that countries, some of which have advanced radars or LADARS or satellite imaging technology won't be able to detect your aircraft is a blatant GODMOD dude.

Stealth technology makes it DIFFICULT to detect aircraft, not impossible. Any radar inhibiting paints do just that, INHIBIT.]
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 14:43
Transmission to Nato

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Garrison II formally requests after seeing that Euroslavia threats of Nato involvement, that Nato as an organization does not aid the nation of Hogsweat in any conflict with Drum Gods, a member of GDODAD and allied to Metus. While Drum Gods actions are imperialistic it would not do Nato any good to help another much more imperialistic nation, Hogsweat and plunge the world in war. We wonder how can Nato aid Hogsweat as he has insulted, and threatened the founding Nato Member and friend of Garrison II, Automagfreek, and has shown imperialist actions of his own. Garrison II does not wish to wage war against any members of nato nor an offensive campaign, but must defend our ally and will call upon friendly nations to aid us.

Hogsweat
"Official Response to Automagfreek
I wouldn't act so high and mighty, Damien the "Destroyer", because there will be a day, mark my words, where you will fall and your so called "Excessively Armed Empire" will be a paragraph in the history books. "

Hogsweat
Is that a threat? Because if it was, I am not threatened. Your description of Automagfreek is a elitist, self-superior view. I find the word 'Heathen' to be an especially foolish 'insult'.
One day, when the day of this earth ends, there will be no fire and ice. When, in the long-distant day that the universe ends, there will be no sun, no moon.
As such, there will be a day where Automagfreek ends. If you so much as touch a Hogsweatian citizen we will attempt to ensure that aforementioned day approaches fast.
Prince Dorsal VXIII, Emperor of the Hogsweatian Commonwealth and its Colonies and Dominions.

List of Hogsweat Imperialism and actions
Unity comrades, Unity! [ComIntern of Left Wing Alliances
The Ruling of the Colonies
Hogsweatian Takeover of Earth IV
Invasion of Falklands Islands (Earth II)
Royal Navy Fleets enter NAS Waters
The Annexation of Grenada (earth II)
H0gsweatian Annexation of Virgin Islands (Earth II)
Crown Harbour, Hawaii (Earth II)
Christians Declared evil - and persecuted!!
Hogsweat Lays Claim to Finland!
Christians drowned! 1,000,000 dead already

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...ight=capitalist



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Lady Taylor
Lady of Garrison II
House of David
Lady of York
Sanctaphrax
22-10-2004, 15:30
List of Hogsweat Imperialism and actions
Unity comrades, Unity! [ComIntern of Left Wing Alliances
The Ruling of the Colonies
Hogsweatian Takeover of Earth IV
Invasion of Falklands Islands (Earth II)
Royal Navy Fleets enter NAS Waters
The Annexation of Grenada (earth II)
H0gsweatian Annexation of Virgin Islands (Earth II)
Crown Harbour, Hawaii (Earth II)
Christians Declared evil - and persecuted!!
Hogsweat Lays Claim to Finland!
Christians drowned! 1,000,000 dead already
where do I start.
Hogsweatian Takeover of Earth IV. This was the earth IV started by Hataria which was ignored by everybody.
Royal Navy Fleets enter NAS Waters. NAS is a racist country, now I don't know what kind of policies your country has toward racists but we fully commend these actions.
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 15:38
I think that the point stands that for NATO to support someone (with military aid) they should possess a similar "moral code" - a code which is absent in Hogsweat.
Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 16:42
[Secret IC: Heavily encrypted message sent to both governments

To: Governments of Greenmanbry and IDF
From: Admiral Marcus Patinkin
Commanding Officer, First Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy

Rear Admiral Stephen Marcus
Commanding Officer, Second Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy
Subject: Air patrols

Owing to recent intelligence reports of aerial squadrons from Drum_Gods planning to patrol your air space, we are requesting permission to launch our own patrol squadrons once we arrive in your waters. Standard operating procedure for Sarzonian carrier task forces is to launch one squadron of fighter jets per aircraft carrier to serve as an escort, though this would involve the launch of four additional squadrons per country.

Our instructions to our pilots will be to fire only when fired upon; though we hope that our presence in the air dissuades them from being overtly aggressive toward your interests or ours.]
Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 16:42
I think that the point stands that for NATO to support someone (with military aid) they should possess a similar "moral code" - a code which is absent in Hogsweat.[OOC: In this case, I believe the old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," applies.]
Greenmanbry
22-10-2004, 16:56
[Secret IC: Heavily encrypted message sent to both governments

To: Governments of Greenmanbry and IDF
From: Admiral Marcus Patinkin
Commanding Officer, First Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy

Rear Admiral Stephen Marcus
Commanding Officer, Second Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy
Subject: Air patrols

Owing to recent intelligence reports of aerial squadrons from Drum_Gods planning to patrol your air space, we are requesting permission to launch our own patrol squadrons once we arrive in your waters. Standard operating procedure for Sarzonian carrier task forces is to launch one squadron of fighter jets per aircraft carrier to serve as an escort, though this would involve the launch of four additional squadrons per country.

Our instructions to our pilots will be to fire only when fired upon; though we hope that our presence in the air dissuades them from being overtly aggressive toward your interests or ours.]

[Secret IC: Encrypted Message:

TO: Rear Admiral Stephen Marcus, Commanding Officer, Second Fleet, Incorporated Sarzonian Navy
FR: Admiral Frank Estral, GMB Navy
SU: RE: Air Patrols

The Dominion's government hereby asserts that the Incorporated Sarzonian Navy has the full right to patrol GMB airspace following the escalation in tensions between Drum Gods and ourselves. You aircraft will be flying alongside ours, which have been deployed over Greenmanbry's soil and over the Red Sea for some time now.

Air Defense Command, which falls under the control of the GMB Army, has been notified of your request and our acceptance. Thus, all air defense stations and anti-aircraft assets will consider Sarzonian aircraft to be friendlies.

We also hope the concentrated presence of our air superiority fighters in the skies over the Middle East will dissuade them from executing any aggressive actions they might be planning.

Frank Estral
Admiral, GMB Navy]
Momanguise
22-10-2004, 17:27
For the attention of: Open message to all nations involved in the present crisis and the nation of Drum Gods.
From: Tania Ormov, Chair of the House of Foriegn Affairs
Security level: None

We have been monitoring the developing situation with increasing interest. We have already voiced our concerns as to Drum Gods imperialism, and we fell that we must make our position clear.

Any and all actions taken by Drum Gods that are deemed to be of an imperialist nature will be met with full and ferocious resistance. Any neutral or allied nations that fall under attack will be defended until the last breath and the last drop of blood. This game has been played long enough, now cease or face checkmate.

Yours Sincerely,

Tania Ormov.

End of Transmission
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 17:49
Perhaps it is time Drum Gods for you to ask Silver Turtle and Melkor for assistance?
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 17:50
[OOC: In this case, I believe the old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," applies.]

Even if your "friend" as threatened your founding memeber?
Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 17:52
Even if your "friend" as threatened your founding memeber?[OOC: In my case, I'm allied to Hogsweat through OMP. I'm not speaking for NATO, but I seriously doubt we're doing this to get cozy with Hogsweat. We're doing this to stop Drum_Gods. Period.]
Sanctaphrax
22-10-2004, 18:00
Perhaps it is time Drum Gods for you to ask Silver Turtle and Melkor for assistance?
What are you going to ask,
"well, uh these nasty nations have threatened to shoot down our innocent bombers that are going on a sight-seeing mission around the Middle-East and we've done nothing wrong. We aren't imperialist, all the territories we're trying to take are to reclaim all our old territories so could you please send us some troops to stop them shooting down our planes in their airspace?":rolleyes:

Face it, Greenmanbry and IDF have warned you to stay out of their airspace. If you ignore them and continue to patrol there then they're well within their rights to shoot your planes down.
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 18:03
No I'm going to ask them to simply support their ally. Garrison II doesn't support imperialism but it will support its ally.
Momanguise
22-10-2004, 18:08
ooc: In any circumstance? You would sacrifice your morality for defense of a guilty party?
Garrison II
22-10-2004, 18:21
Yes
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 18:24
ooc: In any circumstance? You would sacrifice your morality for defense of a guilty party?

I'd suggest that both sides in this "spat" would. That seems to be the roadblock.
Momanguise
22-10-2004, 18:27
Quite possibly, though I am convinced who I think the guilty party is.
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 20:27
*Wolfish Taskforce Bravo, Gulf of Aden, South of Yemen*

"Admiral - we are now within 125 km of the Bab-Al-Mandeb Strait."

"Very Good Seaman. Begin combat air patrols over the Gulf of Aden and the Strait."
IDF
22-10-2004, 20:56
[Secret IC: Heavily encrypted message sent to both governments

To: Governments of Greenmanbry and IDF
From: Admiral Marcus Patinkin
Commanding Officer, First Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy

Rear Admiral Stephen Marcus
Commanding Officer, Second Fleet
Incorporated Sarzonian Navy
Subject: Air patrols


permission granted
Drum Gods
22-10-2004, 21:14
Perhaps it is time Drum Gods for you to ask Silver Turtle and Melkor for assistance?


We may well have to do this. Even though we have made it clear that these patrols are only for recon purposes some nations seem insistant on nudging us into a war situation.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
The Great Sixth Reich
22-10-2004, 21:16
Come on, that's a little crazy Drum Gods. Patroling over another nation's airspace without consent? That's a violation of international law!
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 21:24
Come on, that's a little crazy Drum Gods. Patroling over another nation's airspace without consent? That's a violation of international law!

Because that's never happened in real life?

Countless times Soviet and American (and allies) made not only recon flights through the other's territorial air-space, but they also "tested" their enemy by "invading" with fighters, bombers, subs, "fishing boats" and the like. This is all part of the game.
IDF
22-10-2004, 21:26
Because that's never happened in real life?

Countless times Soviet and American (and allies) made not only recon flights through the other's territorial air-space, but they also "tested" their enemy by "invading" with fighters, bombers, subs, "fishing boats" and the like. This is all part of the game.
OOC: and they fired on eachother without reprecussions. It was legal when Gary Powers got shot down. The US had no legal right to complain.

As for subs, in the Cold War Soviet Subs fired on Americans when detected as it was their right when their 12 mile limit was violated.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-10-2004, 21:34
Countless times Soviet and American (and allies) made not only recon flights through the other's territorial air-space

And they got shot down if they were spotted. Only high-altitude spy planes like the U-2 managed to evade radar, but that was around 50 years ago when radar was still not too great.
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 21:37
And they got shot down if they were spotted. Only high-altitude spy planes like the U-2 managed to evade radar, but that was around 50 years ago when radar was still not too great.

That's exactly my point. This stuff happened regularly. This situational RP is quite realistic.
The Great Sixth Reich
22-10-2004, 21:38
I just hope he [Drum Gods] does not enter Maldives Airspace. It's under our control and we have E-3 Sentrys monitering all traffic.
Sarzonia
22-10-2004, 21:45
Admiral Patinkin sat pensively in his chair in the situation room of the Freedom, the flagship of the Sarzonian navy and was closing in on IDF. Rear Admiral Marcus fidgeted in his command chair on the bridge of the Praetonia, which served as the flagship of the fleet en route to Greenmanbry.

Patinkin finally pushed the communications device after encryption was secured and sent a message to Marcus.

"Admiral, please see me in the Freedom's situation room."

"Aye, sir." With the two fleets still en route to their respective destinations and such travel possible over the high seas, Marcus took his helicopter over to the Freedom and hustled in the situation room as quickly as he could. Once he arrived, he saw Patinkin looking at a computer display of the area near IDF.

"Well, Drum_Gods doesn't seem to be backing down from its intent to launch reconaissance flights," Patinkin said nervously.

"So it would seem," Marcus said. "What do you think we should do?"

"I was wondering if you had anything in mind?"

Marcus thought for a moment. It seemed to him that Drum_Gods was trying to bait the NATO forces into firing the first shot, something he knew in the current world climate that would automatically pin the alliance as the aggressive party.

"Let's try this. We've already secured permission to launch our fighters to patrol the skies above IDF and Greenmanbry, so let's see if we can't 'run into' the Drum_Gods missions."

"Are you suggesting we shoot their jets down? Or collide with them in midair?"

"No," Marcus said. "They seem hell bent on provoking us. Let's see if we can provoke them into firing first. If we spot their fighters, divert our course to close in on theirs. Fly as closely as possible to their formations without firing. Just give them a friendly reminder that we can spy on them the way they can spy on our allies."

"Interesting idea," Patinkin said. "And what if they fire on our fighters?"

"Then, we've done our part," Marcus said. "We've forced their hand and world opinion will be on our side."

"Interesting," Patinkin said. He thought for a moment.

"Let's do it."

Within 10 minutes, Marcus boarded his helicopter and set off for the Praetonia. The fleets would soon separate and steam toward their destinations. The chess game would go on.
Wolfish
22-10-2004, 21:48
ooc: since we're operating in RL geographical areas, can we try to reference those in RP posts. Thanks.
Drum Gods
22-10-2004, 22:02
At BattleTech HQ General Vorshank was going through the new campaign plans for the patrol missions:

"The new plan is as follows. We have just received out latest shipment of stealth fighter aircraft. We are going to leave unpainted and unmarked but carrying as much ammunition as possible. Including, I repeat in including biochem munitions. The aircraft will patrol as usual gathering and sending information back to Baghdad but if they are by any chance detected then they cannot be traced back to us and if bombed will kamikaze down to the ground leaving the aggressors with a nasty, untraceable surprise."

With that the new squadron of patrol aircraft began heading over to Saudi Arabia.
Sarzonia
23-10-2004, 03:59
With that the new squadron of patrol aircraft began heading over to Saudi Arabia.[OOC: Untraceable? WTF?! With SEVERAL highly advanced modern tech to near-future tech on high alert looking at everything from satellite imaging to radar to LADAR, that's another blatant Godmode.]
Sarzonia
23-10-2004, 04:02
ooc: since we're operating in RL geographical areas, can we try to reference those in RP posts. Thanks.[OOC: My country's not based in a RL location (in fact, it's not really supposed to be anywhere at all, but I've been saying it's in the south Atlantic between South America and Africa just for the sake of ease in RP). Suffice to say, it's taken a while for my fleets to make the journey from Sarzonia to their final destinations.]
IDF
23-10-2004, 04:20
At BattleTech HQ General Vorshank was going through the new campaign plans for the patrol missions:

"The new plan is as follows. We have just received out latest shipment of stealth fighter aircraft. We are going to leave unpainted and unmarked but carrying as much ammunition as possible. Including, I repeat in including biochem munitions. The aircraft will patrol as usual gathering and sending information back to Baghdad but if they are by any chance detected then they cannot be traced back to us and if bombed will kamikaze down to the ground leaving the aggressors with a nasty, untraceable surprise."

With that the new squadron of patrol aircraft began heading over to Saudi Arabia.

OOC: satelites would see them take off. They can be detected as a perfect stealth is a godmodd and will be ignored. It would not be hard to find out the origin, especially when their take offs are detected by satelites and movements by high powered air search radars. If you continue to have these planes as undetectable, I will ignore them for the godmode they are. I've developed very stealthy submarines, but you know what, they are detectable because everything is.

Aircraft are especially detectable when they have 12 million watts of RADAR power from a DDG lighting them up from a few hundred miles away.
Vastiva
23-10-2004, 06:49
At BattleTech HQ General Vorshank was going through the new campaign plans for the patrol missions:

"The new plan is as follows. We have just received out latest shipment of stealth fighter aircraft. We are going to leave unpainted and unmarked but carrying as much ammunition as possible. Including, I repeat in including biochem munitions. The aircraft will patrol as usual gathering and sending information back to Baghdad but if they are by any chance detected then they cannot be traced back to us and if bombed will kamikaze down to the ground leaving the aggressors with a nasty, untraceable surprise."

With that the new squadron of patrol aircraft began heading over to Saudi Arabia.

OOC: Nice try, but entirely wrong. CCREHR systems aboard OVERSIGHT have been tracking you since you took off and made your announcement, against which your stealth is useless. Been there since an incident in British Morocco, and tied into the units at IDF currently. There's nothing untraceable, and you're screwed as a nation once you do this, because evidence is all over the place. However, your nation doesn't know this. So when you attempt this scummy maneuver, your hands are the bloody ones and your nation looks like a complete gimp. TTFN.

PS: Ppppppbbbbttttttttthhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Momanguise
23-10-2004, 08:34
ooc: I have to say, I agree. I may not know my RADAR like the back of my hand, but looking at the US airial involvement in the bay of pigs convinces me that you will be suspected and proved to be the purpotraitor. The truth will out, as they say.
Drum Gods
23-10-2004, 11:29
[OOC: Untraceable? WTF?! With SEVERAL highly advanced modern tech to near-future tech on high alert looking at everything from satellite imaging to radar to LADAR, that's another blatant Godmode.]


I didn't say they were untraceable! Seriously, its called political posturing by a super arrogant confident government!
Drum Gods
23-10-2004, 11:32
Furthermore, what I'm doing is precisely what the US and USSR did in the Korean war by sending their unmarked fighters into the war but when they got shot down no-one could prove where they originated from even though the pilot had an american/russian accent and it was clearly obvious!
IDF
23-10-2004, 14:33
Furthermore, what I'm doing is precisely what the US and USSR did in the Korean war by sending their unmarked fighters into the war but when they got shot down no-one could prove where they originated from even though the pilot had an american/russian accent and it was clearly obvious!
OOC: the US knew who they were and had proof from RADAR of where they had come from. The US just didn't do a thing as we didn't want a nuclear war.
Vastiva
23-10-2004, 16:02
OOC: DG, you're not adapting to new conditions, you're acting according to outmoded doctrines. Unlike US/USSR, there aren't only a few superpowers, and there is little to nothing preventing the international press making you look like a gimp nation - which should affect your economy and trade, but you can RP however you want.

Furthermore, use of the biological weapons and traceable source to you makes you a terrorist nation, with proof you are one.

Finally, the USSR didn't drop bioweapons. Had they done that sort of thing, Korea would have ended in a nuclear fireball. MAD doctrine works both ways - that's the point - but you're not RPing knowledge that if you use, others will use on you.
Wolfish
23-10-2004, 16:54
So - if you can detect him...and identify him - then get on with it and blow him out of the sky.

ooc: Who owns Yemen? Because I've got a fleet right off shore, and am drooling over the islands at the eastern end of the Red Sea.
Vastiva
23-10-2004, 17:14
So - if you can detect him...and identify him - then get on with it and blow him out of the sky.

ooc: Who owns Yemen? Because I've got a fleet right off shore, and am drooling over the islands at the eastern end of the Red Sea.

OOC: You just love the provocationalist stuff. And as it wasn't marked OOC, that first statement was IC? Curious indeed! No labels, fair game, so...

IC:
(excerpted from VNN channel 722 broadcast)

...wedding bells.

And in other news tonight, the nation of Wolfish called for the destruction of Drum Gods planes. In an official statement, an anonymous representative stated:

So - if you can detect him...and identify him - then get on with it and blow him out of the sky.

At this time, Vastivan officials are unclear as to why Wolfish would want Drum Gods planes destroyed, but investigations are ongoing, particularly given Drum Gods latest official statement by an anonymous bureaucrat:


Furthermore, what I'm doing is precisely what the US and USSR did in the Korean war by sending their unmarked fighters into the war but when they got shot down no-one could prove where they originated from even though the pilot had an american/russian accent and it was clearly obvious!

More developments as they occur.

On the domestic front, cheddar futures...


OOC: Waits to see how these two RP that one out.
Greenmanbry
23-10-2004, 17:33
So - if you can detect him...and identify him - then get on with it and blow him out of the sky.

ooc: Who owns Yemen? Because I've got a fleet right off shore, and am drooling over the islands at the eastern end of the Red Sea.

Yemen is owned by Granzi.. he has a Naval presence there I believe. And I have a whole fleet of 150 ships near the islands you are referring to.
The Great Sixth Reich
23-10-2004, 17:53
If anyone wants to use Maldives water or airspace, just send us a message...
-Ludo Hienkel, Chief Officer of Defense.
Sanctaphrax
23-10-2004, 17:55
If anyone wants to use Maldives water or airspace, just send us a message...
-Ludo Hienkel, Chief Officer of Defense.
I assume that that wasn't aimed at DG or Wolfish?
The Great Sixth Reich
23-10-2004, 18:00
I assume that that wasn't aimed at DG or Wolfish?

We have a what we call an "open air" policy where if you contact TGSROAS you are generally allowed over our airspace. But the water policy was strictly aimed at allied forces (not DG).
Wolfish
24-10-2004, 05:30
Open Transmission:

Wolfish Taskforce Bravo is proceeding into the Red Sea. Given the amount of military shipping in the area - we thought advance notice would be wise. We intend to use the common, deep water channel (centre channel).

End.
Momanguise
24-10-2004, 12:21
Secret IC:

The first and second fleets have returned from a remarkable victory against the United States of Nick, and are being kept on standby. Meanwhile, a minimal mobilisation is taking place, with soldiers being posted as close to Iraq as possible.
Drum Gods
24-10-2004, 12:28
OOC: You just love the provocationalist stuff. And as it wasn't marked OOC, that first statement was IC? Curious indeed! No labels, fair game, so...

IC:
(excerpted from VNN channel 722 broadcast)

...wedding bells.

And in other news tonight, the nation of Wolfish called for the destruction of Drum Gods planes. In an official statement, an anonymous representative stated:



At this time, Vastivan officials are unclear as to why Wolfish would want Drum Gods planes destroyed, but investigations are ongoing, particularly given Drum Gods latest official statement by an anonymous bureaucrat:



More developments as they occur.

On the domestic front, cheddar futures...


OOC: Waits to see how these two RP that one out.


When I start using the first person it normally means its OOC not IC. Furthermore, if an unmarked plane is brought down and explodes etc etc how do you trace it back to its origin instantaneously. It would take months maybe even years to prepare an investigation into such a matter as you have to search through the debris try to find any tiny markings etc etc.

As this is a game I decided to add bio/chem weapons to the planes to give it a bit of twist.

Oh and that was all OOC. :rolleyes:
Momanguise
24-10-2004, 12:31
Pehaps there should be an ooc thread for this?
Drum Gods
24-10-2004, 12:40
OOC: No that isn't necessary. Vastiva is just being pedantic.
Wolfish
25-10-2004, 17:31
I'm creating a new thread - Wolfish - Red Sea Operations. Neighbouring nations may want to take note.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7325301#post7325301