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Alexia Too!

OOC: This is a closed thread for Random Kingdom, United States of Nick, and Alexia. Feel free to tag and read, but please don't post in character as your nation. Also, please vote in the poll :-)

IC:

Inside the Avu-Akar Oivi International Relations Compound, the Mediators from Avu-Akar Oivi prepared their notes as the delegates from the other nations filed in.

Then Aoza Avu, Leader of Avu-Akar Oivi stood up "Fellow world citizens, I will now tell you how this proceeding will be run. The Nona-Aoza, the lesser ministers of Avu-Akar Oivi, and I, will direct this proceeding. The Nona-Aoza will assist me in verifying the information that is given us, and we will suggest clauses that will be added to the peace treaty. We will, of course, yet you have the final say, and a clause shall not be added until voting for it is unanimous, within reason. Klarzen Ilozi of the Aoza-Avu will now read the motto of Avu-Akar Oivi." Klarzen stood up "Kavay Aoza-avan Kakaiwi: Avu, Kak Avo. Kavay. Kavay Ve Jar Kavay Ved, Kavay Aoza-avan Jar Av Kavay, Kavay Jar Kakkavay Ved. Zavap Kavay Jar kak avakkakavak. Kavay Ved".

OOC:If you want a translation, just ask! :-)

Klarzen sat down.

Aoza Avu stood up again "While Avu-Akar Oivi prepares its timeline of the events leading up to this conflict, please prepare for the peace talks physically, mentally, and spiritually. That is all for now".

Bump!

Random Kingdom will be able to talk at about 17:00 GMT.

The diplomats representing Random Kingdom have taken their seats, and are waiting for the United States of Nick to take theirs.

ooc: Can I not attend?

Alexia Too!
OOC: This is a closed thread for Random Kingdom, United States of Nick, and Alexia. Feel free to tag and read, but please don't post in character as your nation.


Hmmmm... Not sure. Better ask AAO.

"Kavay Aoza-avan Kakaiwi: Avu, Kak Avo. Kavay. Kavay Ve Jar Kavay Ved, Kavay Aoza-avan Jar Av Kavay, Kavay Jar Kakkavay Ved. Zavap Kavay Jar kak avakkakavak. Kavay Ved".

OOC:If you want a translation, just ask! :-).

OOC: Yes please!

Mills with his team from the State Department file into the room shakign hands with other diplomats. After moments of small talk he sits down and awaits for the peace talks to begin.

Finally! Let the talks begin! All we need now is the mediator. (Strange how there's always a nation missing!)

The Prime Minister of Random Kingdom, trying to find a way to pass the time, decided to boast about the split of RK and the new right-wing colony, Sweatshoponia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/43314/page=display_nation/nation=sweatshoponia). (OOC: I did this so that I have at least some economical power, since right-wing colonies perpetually have booming economies)

ooc:
X Bump! X

OOC: BUMP (I'm typing...I'm typing)

OOC: BUMP (I'm typing...I'm typing)
Ah, there you are! Finally, we may be able to start these peace talks...

(looks around and wonders where Mills and his dictators have gone)

I'm confused....



The diplomats representing the Alexian Empire enter,going through the proper formalities(shaking hands and the like).

They then seat themselves as close as possible to the diplomats who are representing those nations goverments that chose to invade.

(I may aswell get things going)

"Ahem."begins the Sherrier,who seems to be leading the group"Representin',the Alexian Empiere!"cut in Saad,and a burst of laughter erupted from the small group of Alexian diplomats.After they stopped,seeing that the others were not amused,Sherrier straightened up and started again."I suggest someone begin,perhaps by stating their targets for this peace talk."

Finally! Let the talks begin! All we need now is the mediator. (Strange how there's always a nation missing!)

The Prime Minister of Random Kingdom, trying to find a way to pass the time, decided to boast about the split of RK and the new right-wing colony, Sweatshoponia (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/43314/page=display_nation/nation=sweatshoponia). (OOC: I did this so that I have at least some economical power, since right-wing colonies perpetually have booming economies)


just because you have a colony doesn't make you economically powerfull.

And it's a bit early to be that strong,don't you think?

Just a thought,I dunno.

"Welcome nations, to the much awaited peace talks" said Aoza-Avu. "Avu-Akar Oivi will start off by proposing a timeline to be accepted by all nations to assure that everyone has the same idea of the events that happened and in what order they happened" Aoza Avu turned on a projector, which displaye the following timeline:

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-The United States of Nick states that it is arresting and executing 300 "left-wing 'activists' ":
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262690&postcount=1

-Random Kingdom objects to the executions, and threatens to send troops in to rescue the captives:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262734&postcount=2


-The USN (United States of Nick) state that the people executed have been verified as terrorists:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19)


-RK (Random Kingdom) starts to broadcast propaganda inside the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263293&postcount=20
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24


-Generic Empire pledges support for the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24
as does Alexias:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-Tekania disputes the legality of USN's actions, and notes UN rules violations on the part of the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-The USN resigns from the UN

-The USN declares war on RK:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366051


-RK drafts a peace treaty:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7266579&postcount=41


**********************************************************

"Does anyone want to make a motion to vote on accepting this timeline, or have any comments on it?" asked Aoza Avu.

ooc: Can I not attend?

Although you are applying after the deadline, you can join, seeing as USN has an ally in the debate.

OOC: Just fly your delegates here fast!

"Welcome nations, to the much awaited peace talks" said Aoza-Avu. "Avu-Akar Oivi will start off by proposing a timeline to be accepted by all nations to assure that everyone has the same idea of the events that happened and in what order they happened" Aoza Avu turned on a projector, which displaye the following timeline:

**********************************************************
-The United States of Nick states that it is arresting and executing 300 "left-wing 'activists' ":
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262690&postcount=1

-Random Kingdom objects to the executions, and threatens to send troops in to rescue the captives:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262734&postcount=2


-The USN (United States of Nick) state that the people executed have been verified as terrorists:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19)


-RK (Random Kingdom) starts to broadcast propaganda inside the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263293&postcount=20
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24


-Generic Empire pledges support for the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24
as does Alexias:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-Tekania disputes the legality of USN's actions, and notes UN rules violations on the part of the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-The USN resigns from the UN


-RK drafts a peace treaty:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7266579&postcount=41

-The USN declares war on RK:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366051
**********************************************************

"Does anyone want to make a motion to vote on accepting this timeline, or have any comments on it?" asked Aoza Avu.

I accept this timeline as correct.

I would also like to proclaim that the information in the RK public infornation film witnessed in http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7267321&postcount=131
was falsified by the goverment. I apologise for this information.

Also, (OOC- ish) Random Kingdom confesses to godmoding throughout this RP (though I did edit post 158 after claims of godmoding - which were found to be true - to drop Random Kingdom's chances of survival to more realistic levels.).

IC: The statement by the Prime Minister later on in the war was also an act of propaganda, and Matthew Windsor promptly apologises for that. Random Kingdom, at the time, was trying to maintain a facade.

"Welcome nations, to the much awaited peace talks" said Aoza-Avu. "Avu-Akar Oivi will start off by proposing a timeline to be accepted by all nations to assure that everyone has the same idea of the events that happened and in what order they happened" Aoza Avu turned on a projector, which displaye the following timeline:

**********************************************************
-The United States of Nick states that it is arresting and executing 300 "left-wing 'activists' ":
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262690&postcount=1

-Random Kingdom objects to the executions, and threatens to send troops in to rescue the captives:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7262734&postcount=2


-The USN (United States of Nick) state that the people executed have been verified as terrorists:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263249&postcount=19)


-RK (Random Kingdom) starts to broadcast propaganda inside the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263293&postcount=20
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24


-Generic Empire pledges support for the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263369&postcount=24
as does Alexias:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-Tekania disputes the legality of USN's actions, and notes UN rules violations on the part of the USN:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7263536&postcount=30


-The USN resigns from the UN


-RK drafts a peace treaty:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7266579&postcount=41

-The USN declares war on RK:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=366051
**********************************************************

"Does anyone want to make a motion to vote on accepting this timeline, or have any comments on it?" asked Aoza Avu.

The decleration of war occured before RK proposed a peace treaty. Other then that, we agree with this timeline.

OOC: OK, I'll edit that

We now fully support the timeline presented by the Avu-Akar Oivi delegation.

Remember that USN declined the first treaty shortly after the declaration, and at that point RK became fully war-aware and began preparations (OOC: most of which were probably godmoded)

One of the Diplomats representing Random Kingdom brings forward copies stored by the Ministry of Diplomacy of the two treaties for debate and amendment:

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(first treaty, after declaration of war, declined by the USN)

Dear United States of Nick, and allies,

We of Random Kingdom propose an agreement to end the current war.

If you promise to stop executing and persecuting your left-wing population, and branding them as traitors and terrorists, we (Random Kingdom) will stop the wave of propoganda, and stop persecuting our right-wing population. We will also withdraw any troops from the streets of USN and Random Kingdom so long as you withdraw your troops from the streets of Random Kingdom. I will also stop nagging at your government. If any one of us breaks this treaty, the
other can claim it as an act of war.

Please sign this treaty.

Signed, The Prime Minister of Random Kingdom

Signed, ..............................................

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(second treaty, after promise of USN to release 2/3 of prisoners, accepted by USN)


Under this new peace treaty, Random Kingdom, and all affliates and allies promises to withdraw all forces from the nation of United States of Nick, and to accept any prisoners released from the fortress at San Nicholae. Similarly, the United States of Nick agrees to withdraw all forces from the nation of Random Kingdom, and all affliates and allies. Both sides must promise to keep peace between their nations, and if one nation bound by the terms of this treaty breaches the terms, the others can declare war on it.

-----
Signed, Matthew Windsor, the Prime Minister of Random Kingdom

-----

After much mumuring between the Nona-aoza, Aoza Avu spoke:

"Delegates of the USN, Avu-Akar Oivi wishes to know the particulars about the trials or legal proceedings, if any, that the 'left wing activists' were involved in."

After much mumuring between the Nona-aoza, Aoza Avu spoke:

"Delegates of the USN, Avu-Akar Oivi wishes to know the particulars about the trials or legal proceedings, if any, that the 'left wing activists' were involved in."

Henry Wimbel, the legal advisor in the delegation, raised to his feet and began to speak,"All those executed received a fair trial. A majority of the criminals were found guilty by a jury of their peers. A small part of those convicted were convicted by use of a military tribunal. The charges ranged from treason to murder. Anyone convicted of treason in the USN is executed, and most murderers are too."

"Thank you, Mr. Wimbel, but could you explain more in detail about your definition of a fair trial?" asked Aoza Avu

"Thank you, Mr. Wimbel, but could you explain more in detail about your definition of a fair trial?" asked Aoza Avu

Wimbel: "Of course. A fair trial in the USN consists of a prosecution, a defense, a judge, and a jury. Both sides present evidence to proove their case, and the proceedings are held in open court and are open to the public. The jury is a group of 12 random citizens, picked by a lottery. Is this what you were asking for?"

One of the Diplomats representing Random Kingdom brings forward copies stored by the Ministry of Diplomacy of the two treaties for debate and amendment:

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(first treaty, after declaration of war, declined by the USN)


-----
(second treaty, after promise of USN to release 2/3 of prisoners, accepted by USN)


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"I would like to draw to attention"says Sherrier."That the goverment of Random Kingdom,firstly,began to threaten and put pressure on the goverment of USN to change a very important decision they made while dealing with entirely internal affairs,none of the Random Kingdom's goverments concern,namely,to realese violent rebels who murdered thousands of civilians and many goverment officials,back into the street so that they would be given the chance to murder again.These rebels attempted to everthrow the legitamite goverment of USN in addition to that,and,consequently,was tried and found guilty of murder and treason,the penalty for which is death in USN.

When the goverment of USN tried to carry out these sentences,the goverment of Random Kingdom said that excution of these sentences would be considered an act of war,and began a massive propaganda campaign,spreading slander and lies about the USN goverment,which makes absolutly no sense.What was the goverment of USN to do?Luckily,it refused to be bullied into compliance by these tyrants of Random Kingdom,and,summarily excuted the murderers,and then,fearing attacks that Random Kingdom threaten to carry out,launched a pre-emptive strike on these despots who call themselves a monarchy.(Namely royal family of Random Kingdom.)The emperial Goverment of the Alexian Empire,considering the actions of Random Kingdom not only moraly incorrect,but seeing it as an assertion of their power over the globe,decided to join the surgical attack on random kingdom so as to stop their dominational agenda before it did harm to anyone,(including us).

Random Kingdom then stepped up the propaganda campaign,and then begged for a peace agreement.

That is the jist of it.

And now,we sit here,in this compound,at a "peace summit" presided over by a goverment that had nothing to do with the conflict,but has shown itself to be painfully biased,as the goverment of Random Kingdom tries to save itself from the result of its own actions.I find this absolutly rediculous,and this summit has yet too convince me that it is fair,let alone fair.

Convince me.

As I am a reasonable person representing a reasonable goverment"continued the delegate,"I will activly engage in this talk,but,I will not be fooled or swindled."with that,the short fat man sat down,to clapping of the other representatives of the Alexian Empire.

"I would like to draw to attention"says Sherrier."That the goverment of Random Kingdom,firstly,began to threaten and put pressure on the goverment of USN to change a very important decision they made while dealing with entirely internal affairs,none of the Random Kingdom's goverments concern,namely,to realese violent rebels who murdered thousands of civilians and many goverment officials,back into the street so that they would be given the chance to murder again.These rebels attempted to everthrow the legitamite goverment of USN in addition to that,and,consequently,was tried and found guilty of murder and treason,the penalty for which is death in USN.

When the goverment of USN tried to carry out these sentences,the goverment of Random Kingdom said that excution of these sentences would be considered an act of war,and began a massive propaganda campaign,spreading slander and lies about the USN goverment,which makes absolutly no sense.What was the goverment of USN to do?Luckily,it refused to be bullied into compliance by these tyrants of Random Kingdom,and,summarily excuted the murderers,and then,fearing attacks that Random Kingdom threaten to carry out,launched a pre-emptive strike on these despots who call themselves a monarchy.(Namely royal family of Random Kingdom.)The emperial Goverment of the Alexian Empire,considering the actions of Random Kingdom not only moraly incorrect,but seeing it as an assertion of their power over the globe,decided to join the surgical attack on random kingdom so as to stop their dominational agenda before it did harm to anyone,(including us).

Random Kingdom then stepped up the propaganda campaign,and then begged for a peace agreement.

That is the jist of it.

And now,we sit here,in this compound,at a "peace summit" presided over by a goverment that had nothing to do with the conflict,but has shown itself to be painfully biased,as the goverment of Random Kingdom tries to save itself from the result of its own actions.I find this absolutly rediculous,and this summit has yet too convince me that it is fair,let alone fair.

Convince me.

As I am a reasonable person representing a reasonable goverment"continued the delegate,"I will activly engage in this talk,but,I will not be fooled or swindled."with that,the short fat man sat down,to clapping of the other representatives of the Alexian Empire.

The USN represenatives enthusiastically applaud the statements of the represenative from the Alexian Empire. President Mills stands up and says, "I'd like to thank the delegate of the Alexian Empire for their kind, wise, and very right words. The USN did nothing wrong when we declared war on the RK. We were protecting our nation from another nation which was trying to destroy our national soveriegnty, and steal our right to do what we want with our prisoners. These talks have produced absolutely nothing as of now, and if they continue to produce nothing our delegation will have to rethink our decision to continue attendance of them."

OOC: And with that...I'm out for the night.

The USN represenatives enthusiastically applaud the statements of the represenative from the Alexian Empire. President Mills stands up and says, "I'd like to thank the delegate of the Alexian Empire for their kind, wise, and very right words. The USN did nothing wrong when we declared war on the RK. We were protecting our nation from another nation which was trying to destroy our national soveriegnty, and steal our right to do what we want with our prisoners. These talks have produced absolutely nothing as of now, and if they continue to produce nothing our delegation will have to rethink our decision to continue attendance of them."

OOC: And with that...I'm out for the night.


Thanks.Thats nice of you to say.

The chief delegate Mohamed Sherrier Bughtee and his emsemble smile and nod gratefully at the USN delagates,and adjust themselves in their seats.

The USN represenatives enthusiastically applaud the statements of the represenative from the Alexian Empire. President Mills stands up and says, "I'd like to thank the delegate of the Alexian Empire for their kind, wise, and very right words. The USN did nothing wrong when we declared war on the RK. We were protecting our nation from another nation which was trying to destroy our national soveriegnty, and steal our right to do what we want with our prisoners. These talks have produced absolutely nothing as of now, and if they continue to produce nothing our delegation will have to rethink our decision to continue attendance of them."

"We understand your frustration, United States of Nick, and we think that Random Kingdom was not entirely justified in invading the USN. We are currently drafting a peace treaty that will serve both nations equally. We object to Alexias' claim that we are biased." stated Aoza Avu

We agree. There were many faults in Random Kingdom's behavior toward USN. However, why execute random left-wing citizens when you could have executed the terrorists? Of course, we of Random Kingdom are in a state of believing that the executed party was in no way connected to the terrorists. If the USN can prove otherwise, we will step down.

We agree. There were many faults in Random Kingdom's behavior toward USN. However, why execute random left-wing citizens when you could have executed the terrorists? Of course, we of Random Kingdom are in a state of believing that the executed party was in no way connected to the terrorists. If the USN can prove otherwise, we will step down.

Their guilt has been proven in a USN courtroom. That's all the proof the USN needs to execute criminals.

Ooc: Bump

Their guilt has been proven in a USN courtroom. That's all the proof the USN needs to execute criminals.

Guilt of what? Fair execution depends on whether the defendants are guilty of the actual crime (terrorism) (fair) or just guilty of sympathising with the criminals (unfair).

Guilt of what? Fair execution depends on whether the defendants are guilty of the actual crime (terrorism) (fair) or just guilty of sympathising with the criminals (unfair).

All criminals were charged with treason and murder in a fair trial, as we have outlined many times before. Anyone found guilty of these crimes deserves a quick execution.

Ooc: Bump

First Draft of Peace Treaty:

Part 1: Solving current problems

Section 1

1.1.0
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners who have been given a fair trial to the United States of Nick. All prisoners who were jailed unjustly (for sympathizing with terrorists, as opposed to actually committing terrorist acts) may be kept by Random Kingdom.

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation must declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions must provide that information freely, and insure that the information is entirely true.

2.1.1
If a nation signing this contract finds that a citizen has been executed without a fair trial, or if it finds that information given by the other nation is false, then the nation inquiring about the legal proceedings may declare war on the other nation.

Section 2

2.2.1
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, the nation who had war declared on them first shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the nation declaring war does not honour this right, then the nation that had war declared upon them shall be able to request international miliatary support.

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: Military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3
If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements in it, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)

As this document was put onto the projector, Aoza Avu spoke. "Delegates, please submit any comments on this agreement, or if you entirely endorse it, just sign the electronic pad in front of you (OOC: Post a signature). Alexias, we have decided that you do not have any right to approving or signing this document, since this is a peace treaty between the USN and RK. However, we thank you for your input into this matter." Aoza Avu sat down, and allowed the delegates to read the document.

First Draft of Peace Treaty:

Part 1: Solving current problems

Section 1

1.1.0
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners who have been given a fair trial to the United States of Nick. All prisoners who were jailed unjustly (for sympathizing with terrorists, as opposed to actually committing terrorist acts) may be kept by Random Kingdom.

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation must declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions must provide that information freely, and insure that the information is entirely true.

2.1.1
If a nation signing this contract finds that a citizen has been executed without a fair trial, or if it finds that information given by the other nation is false, then the nation inquiring about the legal proceedings may declare war on the other nation.

Section 2

2.2.1
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, the nation who had war declared on them first shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the nation declaring war does not honour this right, then the nation that had war declared upon them shall be able to request international miliatary support.

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: Military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3
If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements in it, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)

We object to:

1.1.0: Terrorists sympathizers are just as bad as the terrorist, and deserved to be jailed for their actions.

and

2.1.0: We do not have to justify our actions with our prisoners to the international community. Also we don't have to release information to the international community, if we don't see it is in our nation's best interest.

President Mills: We demand the sections we pointed out be fixed. We also demand a public apology from the Random Kingdom for interferring with our nation's affairs and threatening war with us over what we do on our sovereign land. Until then...my pen will not be touching any treaty.

We agree. There were many faults in Random Kingdom's behavior toward USN. However, why execute random left-wing citizens when you could have executed the terrorists? Of course, we of Random Kingdom are in a state of believing that the executed party was in no way connected to the terrorists. If the USN can prove otherwise, we will step down.


Random Kingdom's goverment has no right to dictate anything in the internal affairs of other nations,and you are being absolutly rediculous.

You,my "friends",are in no position to demand anything,least of which justification for the actions of another nations goverment in dealing with internal affairs.And,again,I remind you that the armed conflict was directly the result of your own actions.Your goverment brought the hostility upon itself,and,I might add,onto the populace,through no fault of it's own.

And,again,a reminder to you and your goverment.No one cares what you think is right and wrong,people will decide that for themselves.This is not a gossip colum in a western magazine.

Random Kingdom has no right to hold the rebelious and violent citzens of USN who tried to overthrow their legitamite goverment, whatsoever(I'm doing this as I go,sorry.)

And in addition,there are many parts of your treaties that are soly benefiting Random Kingdom(to be specified timely),and,furthermore,the Emperial Goverment wants for Random Kingdom to pay for the monetary costs of the Alexian military operation,seeing as it would never have happened had they not threatened the sovereignty of every nation currently in existence with their careless threats.We will downplay the cost to 1 billion dollars out of our kindness and our compassion for the people of Random Kingdom."the Alexian delegate seats himself once again.

Upon hearing the remarks of the Alexian represenatives, the USN delegation broke into applause once again. President Mills whispered something into the ear of Lisa Powell, the head of the USN State Department. The words were only heard by Mills, Powell, and the otgher USN delegates. They were, "Should we really be here? This war was not our fault. Why should we give up anything?" Powell nodded as the talks continued.

Upon hearing the remarks of the Alexian represenatives, the USN delegation broke into applause once again. President Mills whispered something into the ear of Lisa Powell, the head of the USN State Department. The words were only heard by Mills, Powell, and the otgher USN delegates. They were, "Should we really be here? This war was not our fault. Why should we give up anything?" Powell nodded as the talks continued.


"Damn Straight!" yelled Saad.

"Seeing as Alexias clearly had a choice in joining this conflict, Avu-Akar Oivi cannot and will not rewrite the treaty to make Random Kingdom refund Alexias for its military actions. Avu-Akar Oivi also asks Alexias to leave this discussion, as it does not have any say in this treaty. It is purely a matter between the USN and Random Kingdom. Alexias does not have the right to suddenly demand compensation for entering a military conflict that it had complete control over joining."

First Draft of Peace Treaty:

Part 1: Solving current problems

Section 1

1.1.0
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners who have been given a fair trial to the United States of Nick. All prisoners who were jailed unjustly (for sympathizing with terrorists, as opposed to actually committing terrorist acts) may be kept by Random Kingdom.

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation must declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions must provide that information freely, and insure that the information is entirely true.

2.1.1
If a nation signing this contract finds that a citizen has been executed without a fair trial, or if it finds that information given by the other nation is false, then the nation inquiring about the legal proceedings may declare war on the other nation.

Section 2

2.2.1
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, the nation who had war declared on them first shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the nation declaring war does not honour this right, then the nation that had war declared upon them shall be able to request international miliatary support.

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: Military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3
If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements in it, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)


I am fine with the treaty as-is, and will sign it momentarily. The fees will be paid out of the Welfare budget (currently 10,382,388,392.30 USD) as soon as possible. All fairly tried prisoners will be shipped back to USN in the hope that they will be fairly punished.

A second draft of the peace treaty is being written, due to objections from the USN

"Seeing as Alexias clearly had a choice in joining this conflict, Avu-Akar Oivi cannot and will not rewrite the treaty to make Random Kingdom refund Alexias for its military actions. Avu-Akar Oivi also asks Alexias to leave this discussion, as it does not have any say in this treaty. It is purely a matter between the USN and Random Kingdom. Alexias does not have the right to suddenly demand compensation for entering a military conflict that it had complete control over joining."

If Alexias is kicked out of these talks the USN will also leave. They were a part of this war and deserve to be here.

If Alexias is kicked out of these talks the USN will also leave. They were a part of this war and deserve to be here.

If the USN also leaves there will be no point to the peace talks, and RK will be forced to leave and prepare for possible war. However, Random Kingdom objects to being asked by Alexias to give them compensation for attacking us. Since when do you assault someone and then force them to pony up cash? Unfortunately, it happens. In NS and in real life.

If the USN also leaves there will be no point to the peace talks, and RK will be forced to leave and prepare for possible war. However, Random Kingdom objects to being asked by Alexias to give them compensation for attacking us. Since when do you assault someone and then force them to pony up cash? Unfortunately, it happens. In NS and in real life.

You brought the war on, you should pay for the what Alexias had to do because of your foolish and dangerous actions.

Alexias showed complete free will in joining this conflict. Alexias was in no way forced to attack Random Kingdom. Saying that they were forced to war would be like saying that you had to kill someone. This is clearly a case of free will.

Alexias is not one of the two parties that will sign this treaty, so it is not nessacary for them to be here. Also, they have presented nothing but negativity for everything said by Avu-Akar Oivi. We feel that their presence here is more of a hinderance than a help.

We are currently working on the second draft of the proposal, and we will be releasing the draft soon.

Alexias showed complete free will in joining this conflict. Alexias was in no way forced to attack Random Kingdom. Saying that they were forced to war would be like saying that you had to kill someone. This is clearly a case of free will.

Alexias is not one of the two parties that will sign this treaty, so it is not nessacary for them to be here. Also, they have presented nothing but negativity for everything said by Avu-Akar Oivi. We feel that their presence here is more of a hinderance than a help.

We are currently working on the second draft of the proposal, and we will be releasing the draft soon.

President Mills stand up, "Once again, if Alexias is forced out of these talks...we will not recognize these talks or the results of them."

If the USN also leaves there will be no point to the peace talks, and RK will be forced to leave and prepare for possible war. However, Random Kingdom objects to being asked by Alexias to give them compensation for attacking us. Since when do you assault someone and then force them to pony up cash? Unfortunately, it happens. In NS and in real life.


They did it too Germany in WWI



"If Random Kingdom's goverment were aloud to make decisions in USN's internal affairs,then what's to stop them from doing it to us,and to you for that matter?History has shown us that if people like this are not stopped,they will continue to do as they like forever.

In theory my people had the choice to go to war,but ultimatly,in the big picture,did we?"says the Alexian Chief delegate."And you,Aku-Avi peoples,your goverment is trying to defend this maniac,and in turn trying to take out USN and all the other nations of this world.

And as for your rag of a treaty,it benefits no one but Random Kingdom.

The invading forces had the upper hand,and peace will not bring us anything.In short,at present,I am beggining to regret that my goverment agreed to these talks.So far,they have proven to be severly biased and useless.And,Aku-Avi,I maintain that it is rediculous that these peace talks are presided over by you as,one,your goverment had nothing to do with this conflict and two,you are obviously biased.Your predjudice towards those who launched the pre-emptive strike against Random Kingdom in the attempt to maintain sovreingnty.Despite what you say,you have chosen sides.

And,once again,Random Kingdom warranted attacks on itself when it declared that the excution of those who tried to overthrow USN's goverment would be an act of war.Furthermore,defending and helping those who tried to overthrow the legitamite goverment of USN was pratically a declaration of war in itself!It was most certainly a display of total hostility to say the absolute least!"

They did it too Germany in WWI



"If Random Kingdom's goverment were aloud to make decisions in USN's internal affairs,then what's to stop them from doing it to us,and to you for that matter?History has shown us that if people like this are not stopped,they will continue to do as they like forever.

In theory my people had the choice to go to war,but ultimatly,in the big picture,did we?"says the Alexian Chief delegate."And you,Aku-Avi peoples,your goverment is trying to defend this maniac,and in turn trying to take out USN and all the other nations of this world.

And as for your rag of a treaty,it benefits no one but Random Kingdom.

The invading forces had the upper hand,and peace will not bring us anything.In short,at present,I am beggining to regret that my goverment agreed to these talks.So far,they have proven to be severly biased and useless.And,Aku-Avi,I maintain that it is rediculous that these peace talks are presided over by you as,one,your goverment had nothing to do with this conflict and two,you are obviously biased.Your predjudice towards those who launched the pre-emptive strike against Random Kingdom in the attempt to maintain sovreingnty.Despite what you say,you have chosen sides.

And,once again,Random Kingdom warranted attacks on itself when it declared that the excution of those who tried to overthrow USN's goverment would be an act of war.Furthermore,defending and helping those who tried to overthrow the legitamite goverment of USN was pratically a declaration of war in itself!It was most certainly a display of total hostility to say the absolute least!"

Again, the USN Delegation burst into applause as the delegates raise to their feet and give a standing ovation to the Alexian delegation. Only after President Mills stands, do the delegates silence. President Mills begins, "Once again, we full heartedly agree with the statements of the Alexian delegation. To let Random Kingdom get away with its actions would be to spit in the face of national sovreingnty. The USN will never give foreign nations power over its internal affairs. We grow very tired of these useless talks. We beleive we have no reason to be here....would Random Kingdom or Avu-Akar Oivi please proove me wrong?"

After a quick call by one of the delegates, a USN commercial airliner began fueling up at a Avu-Akar Oivi airport nearby. The crew was ready to take off and head back to the USN if word came that the peace talks had failed and the USN delegation was returning home. At this moment the plane was not needed, but President Mills was ready to pull the plug on these peace talks if they continued as they have been.

Second Draft

Part 1: Solving current problems


Section 1

1.1.0
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners who have been given a fair trial to the United States of Nick.

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations (The USN and RK) shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation is advised to declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions is strongly encouraged to provide that information freely, within reason, and insure that the information is entirely true.

2.1.1
If a nation signing this contract finds that a citizen has been executed without a fair trial, or if it finds that information given by the other nation is false, then the nation inquiring about the legal proceedings may declare war on the other nation.

Section 2

2.2.1
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, the nation who had war declared on them first shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the nation declaring war does not honour this right, then the nation that had war declared upon them shall be able to request international military support.

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: Military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3

If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements in it, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)

OOC: Hope that proves you wrong :^)

We wish to hear what Alexias has to say about this treaty, as they have proven to be the wisest party in these talks.

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Its essentially the exact same thing,plus a bunch of stuff that doesn't really have to be said and wouldn't really help."says the Alexian chief delegate with boredom in his voice,after reading the writting on the projector screen,

I mean,they still get too decide what a fair trial is for you,they still get to keep the guys who tried to everthrow you,it still makes you give there definition of fair trials,and then it talks about war and exausting peacefull alternatives.Ok,so someone can declare war on the other if they don't give people their definition of "fair trial".It still infringes on your power.And you can declare war for anything,I mean,whose to stop you.And exaust peacefull alternatives or what?

And it still benifits basically just Random Kingdom.I mean,what do you care about the trials of their people,and whose gonna start a war,them or you?they learned their lesson,and you would be in infraction of the treaty.And then everyone would be pissed at you.

It benefits neither of us in any likely situation.And might I remind everyone AGAIN,who started the war,and who was losing it until these peace talks,and who has no levrage.Random boys.

In short,It's basically the same thing,with a few different words(notice the first part is EXACTLY the same.)

Avu Okiow(I'm sorry,I keep forgeting your name.)
is still rooting for the Random boys,and isn't even acknoledging that their in the wrong.Why don't we draw up our own little treaty and get back to you in a minute,eh?"(I do it in a minute)

"Thank you for your input, Alexias" said Aoza Avu. "We have edited the peace treaty to close any loopholes in the treaty. Before you put a lot of work into a treaty of your own, which is fine by us, I suggest that you take a look at the third draft of this treaty, which has many changes that promote national sovereignty, while preserving people's rights. I doubt that many of the clauses in part two will never be needed, but they shall be there if a government is acting extremely unresponsively."


Third Draft of Treaty

Part 1: Solving current problems


Section 1

1.1.0 EDITED
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners taken from the USN back to the USN (United States of Nick).

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations (The USN and RK) shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0 EDITED
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation is advised to declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not, to prevent international tension by preventing misunderstanding. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions is strongly encouraged to provide that information freely, within reason, and insure that the information is entirely true, again in the interest of international peace.

2.1.1 EDITED
The nations signing this contract shall not execute or imprison any person without first giving them a fair trial (A fair trial must provide: access to an unbiased judge, choice of trial by a jury of random citizens, right to speak out against unfair punishment, etc.)

Section 2

2.2.1 EDITED
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, then either nation shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the other nation does not honour this right, then the nation not honouring this right shall be tried for war crimes (by an appropriate judge or jury, and by a fair trial, as defined in 2.1.1)

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3 EDITED

If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements listed, or the spirit thereof, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)

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"Thank you for your input, Alexias" said Aoza Avu. "We have edited the peace treaty to close any loopholes in the treaty. Before you put a lot of work into a treaty of your own, which is fine by us, I suggest that you take a look at the third draft of this treaty, which has many changes that promote national sovereignty, while preserving people's rights. I doubt that many of the clauses in part two will never be needed, but they shall be there if a government is acting extremely unresponsively."


Third Draft of Treaty

Part 1: Solving current problems


Section 1

1.1.0 EDITED
Realizing that Random Kingdom has no jurisdiction over a fair court proceeding, Random Kingdom shall return all prisoners taken from the USN back to the USN (United States of Nick).

Section 2

1.2.0
Realizing that the damage done to both sides is great, both nations (The USN and RK) shall pay the other an amount sufficient to repair damage done to the other nation by war.

1.2.1
Noting that Random Kingdom was for the most part unjustified in attacking The United States of Nick, Random Kingdom shall also pay the United States of Nick $1000 (USD) per prisoner taken who had been given a fair trial.

1.2.2
All payments listed in Section 2 shall be paid within 4 years (4 weeks RL) of the signing of this contract.

Part 2: Preventing Further Conflicts

Section 1

2.1.0 EDITED
If one of the nations signing this contract declares that it is executing some of its citizens, then that nation is advised to declare whether the citizens were given a fair trial or not, to prevent international tension by preventing misunderstanding. If the other nation wishes more information about the trial/legal proceeding, then the nation declaring the executions is strongly encouraged to provide that information freely, within reason, and insure that the information is entirely true, again in the interest of international peace.

2.1.1 EDITED
The nations signing this contract shall not execute or imprison any person without first giving them a fair trial (A fair trial must provide: access to an unbiased judge, choice of trial by a jury of random citizens, right to speak out against unfair punishment, etc.)

Section 2

2.2.1 EDITED
If a nation signing this contract goes to war with the other nation signing this contract, then either nation shall have the right to order a cease-fire to discuss a peace treaty. If the other nation does not honour this right, then the nation not honouring this right shall be tried for war crimes (by an appropriate judge or jury, and by a fair trial, as defined in 2.1.1)

2.2.2
The nations signing this contract agree to exhaust all peaceful alternatives before turning to war.

2.2.3
If a nation signing this contract is given humanitarian aid, then there shall be no interference caused by the other nation that could disrupt this humanitarian aid. "Interference" includes, but is not limited to: military action, terrorist action, and propaganda.


Section 3 EDITED

If either or both nations signing this contract break any of the agreements listed, or the spirit thereof, then that nation cannot claim any protection under this agreement, nor shall that nation be able to use this document as a basis for actions against the other nation. This agreement will be enforced by the two nations signing it

Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF USN)
Signed: .....................................
(LEADER OF RK)



As good as signed. All payments necessary will be payed out of the Welfare budget (11,387,135,656.07 USD), and if that does not suffice, also out of the Administration budget (8,416,578,528.40 USD). If the USN and Alexias would like to tell me how much I owe them, the money will be converted to USD and wired immediately. All former USN prisoners have been reluctantly stripped of their rights in RK and are being shipped, under close guard, to NNC.

"We are glad to see that everyones becoming more reasonable.It would sadden me to see these talks end in violence.However,This treaty is...better,but,under the circumstances,it is not appropriate.We feel that this would be make much more sense."



(I apologize,I'm terrible at making documents look official)

1.Random Kindom will return all prisoners it took.

2.Random Kingdom will pay for the military deployements of all nations involved in the conflict that were hostile to it(that is to say if they remember and bring it up.If not,don't remind them.And just the deployement,not for example,cost of weapons we used and such.That would just be to pacify them.)

3.USN and Alexia will be aloud to maintain a military presence in Random Kingdom of up to 100,000 soldiers(and reasonable ratio vehicles and such with them)MAXIMUM, in bases throughout Random Kingdom,and embassies from which to run them,and may use these bases in any military operation in the future if needed.USN and Alexia will have to set aside land near their capital cities for Random Kingdom embassy.(The countries which the troops were from would have to pay for everything,food for soldiers et cetra.This would bring foreign capital(money) into Random Kingdom,thereby helping the economy)These troops would not be aloud to do any military operations outside the area put aside for them as bases.

4.All state run media must be cleared with USN and Alexia before broadcast,so as to make sure it will not incite violence against them.


(I finish this later.No time now.Please wait.)

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Channel 45, USNews:

Anchor: Hello and thank you for turning to USNews, your only source for fair government approved news. We have just received breaking news. We now go to live to our very own John Wallace in Avu-Akar Oivi. John...
John: Thanks Maria. Earlier this morning we received a notice from the USN State Department that they no longer planned to participate in the peace talks that have been going on in this nation. Shortly after that announcement we witnessed President Mills and the USN delegation being lead onto an unidentified plane and then a bit later that plane took off. We beleive the plane was heading back to the USN. We are told President Mills had made a short video statement before leaving and we are expecting that video to come out soon. This comes really as no surprise, as the USN delegation has been very vocal about its lack of approval of these talks. And Maria...we are just being told that the taped statement is now being released. Let's go to that...
(Image of Mills with USN flag behind him)
Mills: Good afternoon my fellow citizens. As you all know, the USN has been involved with peace talks in these past weeks concerning our past war with Random Kingdom. We beleived these talks would lead to a fair and just solution, they have not. Every treaty put before the delegation infringed on this government's right to govern its own nation and its people. We will never allow a foreign nation to take control of this nations domestic issues. Because of these issues, the USN has withdrawn from these talks. Let it be known our withdrawl from these talks does not equal a decleration of war on Random Kingdon or any other nation. Thank you.
Anchor: USNews will keep you updated as more details become available on this story.

Channel 45, USNews:

Anchor: Hello and thank you for turning to USNews, your only source for fair government approved news. We have just received breaking news. We now go to live to our very own John Wallace in Avu-Akar Oivi. John...
John: Thanks Maria. Earlier this morning we received a notice from the USN State Department that they no longer planned to participate in the peace talks that have been going on in this nation. Shortly after that announcement we witnessed President Mills and the USN delegation being lead onto an unidentified plane and then a bit later that plane took off. We beleive the plane was heading back to the USN. We are told President Mills had made a short video statement before leaving and we are expecting that video to come out soon. This comes really as no surprise, as the USN delegation has been very vocal about its lack of approval of these talks. And Maria...we are just being told that the taped statement is now being released. Let's go to that...
(Image of Mills with USN flag behind him)
Mills: Good afternoon my fellow citizens. As you all know, the USN has been involved with peace talks in these past weeks concerning our past war with Random Kingdom. We beleived these talks would lead to a fair and just solution, they have not. Every treaty put before the delegation infringed on this government's right to govern its own nation and its people. We will never allow a foreign nation to take control of this nations domestic issues. Because of these issues, the USN has withdrawn from these talks. Let it be known our withdrawl from these talks does not equal a decleration of war on Random Kingdon or any other nation. Thank you.
Anchor: USNews will keep you updated as more details become available on this story.

We will also withdraw from the peace talks as the diplomats believe that the treaty is becoming one-sided and will cause war rather than peace. We hope, however, that peace will remain between RK and USN. This is not equal to a declaration of war. We hope that peace talks will recommence someday, under a new mediator.

OCC:But I wasn't done....As soon I start drawing up something,you guys bail.

I wasn't finished.

The Emperial Goverment of the Alexian Empire has condemned both the goverments of Random Kingdom and USN for withdrawing from the peace talks,as this will deminish the chance for a peacefull solution.The end of the peace talks is,however,the fault of the goverment of USN for withdrawing their delegates before even letting a possible treaty be drawn up by the representitives of the empire.

The naval blockade on the coast of Random Kingdom is to be strenghthened and will no longer let boats pass in our out until they resume the peace talks.

The goverment of USN will get no more support from the Alexian Empire unless they rejoin the peace talks.

OOC: For once I'm on your side Alexias :^)

Avu-Akar Oivi is shocked to learn that the USN and RK have left the peace talks. Although they may be long and tedious, the peace talks will certainly find a way to serve all countries involved. Please come back to the peace discussion table.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi

Also, if the Alexian Naval Blockade is attacked, then Avu-Akar Oivi will provide 12 FA-18 "Hornet" aircraft to assist Alexias.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi

The Emperial Goverment thanks yours for their support,and welcomes any aid you are willing to provide.

We of Random Kingdom can't believe that the so-called "peace talks" have promoted war rather than prevented it. We are not happy with the so-called mediator Avu-Akar Oivi, and are withdrawing our diplomats from the compound swiftly. The people of Random Kingdom have been told to expect conflict. We also hope that what little peace we have will remain between us and the USN.

As good as signed. All payments necessary will be payed out of the Welfare budget (11,387,135,656.07 USD), and if that does not suffice, also out of the Administration budget (8,416,578,528.40 USD). If the USN and Alexias would like to tell me how much I owe them, the money will be converted to USD and wired immediately. All former USN prisoners have been reluctantly stripped of their rights in RK and are being shipped, under close guard, to NNC.

The signing of the third peace treaty, along with the withdrawal of RK from the peace talks, will also be declared null and void. The USN prisoners are currently stranded halfway to NNC, awaiting any demands from the USN. However, the USN did state that 2/3rds of their prisoners would be released in goodwill, and RK
still believes that that statement is still true. This is not a declaration of war.

ENCRYPTED
TO: Alexias

Avu-Akar Oivi has rethought unconditionally promising air support, and advises Alexias to withdraw from the RK coast. I suggest that you let fighting countries fight, and let them sort it out. If they want to vaporize eachother, then let them
We understand your cause, but you're more likely to get annihlated than providing any help to the situation.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi

END MESSAGE

Avu-Akar Oivi has reconsidered keeping an airforce squadron on call for a conflict.

TO: Prime Minister of the RK
From: President Mills of the USN

We would like to begin peace talks with your nation, outside of these talks. The talks would be direct, without a mediator. We could negotiate a possible treaty ,point by point. We wish for you to accept this offer.

OOC: They could continue in this thread.

TO: Government of Alexias
From: USN State Department

The USN State Department ask that you withdraw your naval blockade of the Random Kingdom. You can not force Random Kingdom to the peace table with a naval blockade. Thank you for your past support.

We of Random Kingdom accept your offer. The first thing we should settle is: Where will the peace talks commence? Also, we would like AAO to please stop hounding us. We don't want your peace talks. We can sort this thing out without you. Nothing personal, of course. I'm sure that you're a really nice guy, really.

The nation of Avu-Akar Oivi agrees with the USN on the fact that war does not create peace.

The USN State Department ask that you withdraw your naval blockade of the Random Kingdom. You can not force Random Kingdom to the peace table with a naval blockade.
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
TO: The USN, and RK


Avu-Akar Oivi is still willing to continue peace talks, if you wish. The proceedings may be more fair now that the only parties discussing the treaty will be the to nations directly involved in the conflict. Of course, we understand if you reject this offer. We just thought that you might need a neutral location to hold discussions. If you want, we will host the talks, without us directing the talks, and just providing a different point of view for the peace talks. Your choice.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi

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The Alexian Empire will NOT withdraw it's naval blockade,and any peace talks may not go ahead without us,seeing as we were involved in the conflict,it is not feasable,unless I consent it.(Not trying to be an ass,guys,jus sayin,yah know?Nothing personel or nothin.And,I see that you guys be playing with the nationstates way of RPing.If that the case,in theory I can take all of you.I agree the system is flawed and unrealistic,but if that how we playing it...)

We did not put our troops in harms way to come out with nothing.The empire will host talks in Alex City,all those who do not attend will not have a say in the decision making,and be subject to the decisions ratafied by those in attendence should they apply to them.

Aku Avi is invited to attend,as your people are usefull in discusion.

(could we maybe also continue that RP in this forum,guys?)

Mean while,yet another group of reinforcements come to strengthen the Alexian Naval block

Avu-Akar Oivi cannot and will not join or mediate any peace talks until all countries involved in this conflict have removed their forces from the other nations' countries.

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ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
TO: Random Kingdom

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We understand that the naval blockade must be taking a heavy toll on your nation. I will see if I can get the humanitarian aid society IDERT, which we are a member of, to bring in supplies to your nation by means other than ship. We await your response.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi
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END MESSAGE

Aku Avi is invited to attend,as your people are usefull in discusion.

OOC: ARGG!! its Avu-Akar Oivi :^)

I don't really care where the peace talks are held and who they are between, just that they are not biased, and end in peace, rather than conflict.

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ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
TO: The United States of Nick

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We understand that this armed conflict must have taking a heavy toll on your nation. I will see if I can get the humanitarian aid society IDERT, which we are a member of, to bring in supplies and help rebuild your country, if you wish. We await your response.

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi
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END MESSAGE

OOC:

Bump!

To: Government of Random Kingdom
From: President Mills of the USN

We don't beleive it best to have face to face peace talks. We beleive a meeting would be impossible, as the USN public is so set against it. The best possible way for peace talks would most likely be electronic over video-phone or something like that. If RK agrees to talks like that, we could have USN teams setting up communication lines very soon.

To: Government of Random Kingdom
From: President Mills of the USN

We don't beleive it best to have face to face peace talks. We beleive a meeting would be impossible, as the USN public is so set against it. The best possible way for peace talks would most likely be electronic over video-phone or something like that. If RK agrees to talks like that, we could have USN teams setting up communication lines very soon.

Excellent idea. Using indirect methods of communication eliminates the need to find a suitable location. Diplomats are being moved into the houses of ministry, where adequate methods of communication are present.

Excellent idea. Using indirect methods of communication eliminates the need to find a suitable location. Diplomats are being moved into the houses of ministry, where adequate methods of communication are present.

Ok, when you are ready just let us know and we will open up the lines.

ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
TO: THE USN

Avu-Akar Oivi wishes to observe these peace talks, and/or provide a third point of view to all arguments. Would it be possible to join your video conference?

Most repectfully,

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi
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ENCRYPTED MESSAGE
TO: THE USN

Avu-Akar Oivi wishes to observe these peace talks, and/or provide a third point of view to all arguments. Would it be possible to join your video conference?

Most repectfully,

"Kavay Gaofaozaavan Kakaiwi; Avu, Kak Avo"

Aoza Avu
Leader of the Prime City-State
Representative for the Nona-Aoza of City-States
Avu-Akar Oivi
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You are welcomed to observe but the only two parties participating will be the USN and Random Kingdom.

ENCRYPTED
TO: USN


May we comment on the proceedings?

ENCRYPTED
TO: USN


May we comment on the proceedings?

Yes, of course.

Seeing as USN broke down the peace talks through it's own fault,we no longer belive they are relevant to us in any way,but we would like to consult with the goverment of Random Kingdom to come to some sort of agreement.

Seeing as USN broke down the peace talks through it's own fault,we no longer belive they are relevant to us in any way,but we would like to consult with the goverment of Random Kingdom to come to some sort of agreement.

Agree about what?

Also, the diplomats are being assigned seats and we will be ready to commence momentarily.

*In Presidential Office*

President Mills, surrounded by advisors, looks at the TV in front of him and says, "Are we ready to begin?" His nearest advisor replies, "Yes, sir. We are." Mills looked happy and said, "Ok. Open up all lines." The TV turned on and President Mills and his advisors looked at the screen. Then President Mills began, "Hello? Random Kingdom officials? Can you hear me?"

*In Presidential Office*

President Mills, surrounded by advisors, looks at the TV in front of him and says, "Are we ready to begin?" His nearest advisor replies, "Yes, sir. We are." Mills looked happy and said, "Ok. Open up all lines." The TV turned on and President Mills and his advisors looked at the screen. Then President Mills began, "Hello? Random Kingdom officials? Can you hear me?"

We can hear you here in the main conference office.

We can also hear you

We can hear you here in the main conference office.

Mills: OK. Then let's get to buisness. The first matter we wish to discuss is the prisoners. We want all of them sent back to the USN immediatley.

We feel that this is appropriate.

OOC: Would you like me to "take notes" and draw up a peace treaty at the end of the discussion?

Mills: OK. Then let's get to buisness. The first matter we wish to discuss is the prisoners. We want all of them sent back to the USN immediatley.
We agree to this, and the prisoners currently posted halfway to NNC will resume their journey.

We feel that this is appropriate.

OOC: Would you like me to "take notes" and draw up a peace treaty at the end of the discussion?
This could be a good idea, as long as the treaty is not forced upon us and can be scrapped and changed. Would the USN agree?

You can scrap it, accept it, discard it, burn it, whatever.

OOC: Whatever mood you're in :-)

This could be a good idea, as long as the treaty is not forced upon us and can be scrapped and changed. Would the USN agree?

We agree to this.

Ok, now onto the next major point. Payment for damages caused by the war. We would like to hear what you have to say on this issue before the USN releases a position.

Avu-Akar Oivi thinks that both nations should reimburse each other for all damage done.

Agree about what?

Also, the diplomats are being assigned seats and we will be ready to commence momentarily.


Remember,naval blockade?

peace?

Peace cannot exist with a military presence threatening a country. Peace may come from other negotiations, but not from any treaties you organize, Alexias, so long as you have your naval blockade present.

Avu-Akar Oivi thinks that both nations should reimburse each other for all damage done.

I agree. Cash will, as always, come from the Welfare budget. Check on Thirdgeek to see if this will do.

President Mills, angrily grumbling something under his breath after hearing of Random Kingdom's endorsement of his opponent in the Presidential election, begins to talk, " We beleive the Random Kingdom should pay a larger sum of money to the USN then the USN to RK. The USN suffered more damages and, we beleive, had more civilian casaulities then RK. The USN Senate has approved $10 Billion to be payed to RK for damages. (this figure can be debated) Earlier the RK threw out a figure of $11 Billion, that they would pay to the USN, and we would agree to this figure."

Random Kingdom reluctantly agrees to this figure. The money will come from the Welfare budget, the remaining half of the Social Equality budget, and the Law and Order budget. We hope that Bill is elected as President of the USN (see thread on USN election) and that peace will be less costly to us if it is so.

Random Kingdom reluctantly agrees to this figure. The money will come from the Welfare budget, the remaining half of the Social Equality budget, and the Law and Order budget. We hope that Bill is elected as President of the USN (see thread on USN election) and that peace will be less costly to us if it is so.

President Mills, ignoring the comments of the RK, says, "Well....the prisoners and payment was the two major issues we wished to discuss. Does the RK have any other issues they would like to bring up?

We have no further demands of the USN and its slightly corrupt president.

Peace cannot exist with a military presence threatening a country. Peace may come from other negotiations, but not from any treaties you organize, Alexias, so long as you have your naval blockade present.


We are not concerned with either of your stupid morales,the military blockade seems to be the only way I can get any levrage no matter how good my argumets.It does not seem you would listen to me otherwise.

If YOU refuse to negotiate peace deal on these grounds,that is not my fault,I we have been quite reasonable,seeing as you brought this conflict upon yourself.


(nothing personel,eh guys?just playing a game,eh?)

We are not concerned with either of your stupid morales,the military blockade seems to be the only way I can get any levrage no matter how good my argumets.It does not seem you would listen to me otherwise.

If YOU refuse to negotiate peace deal on these grounds,that is not my fault,I we have been quite reasonable,seeing as you brought this conflict upon yourself.


(nothing personel,eh guys?just playing a game,eh?)

Peace talks have ended. Because of RK's actions concerning this nations current elections we refuse to negotiate with them.

We no longer wish to have any relations with the United States of Nick, either. Trade and diplomacy connections have been severed, and the elections will no longer swing Random Kingdom's opinions.

We no longer wish to have any relations with the United States of Nick, either. Trade and diplomacy connections have been severed, and the elections will no longer swing Random Kingdom's opinions.


The Emperial goverment is no longer interested in the goverment of the USN either,they are now completely irrelavent to anything to do with us at the moment.We are talking about talks between the Alexian Goverment and the goverment of Random Kingdom.USN does not enter into it.

The Emperial goverment is no longer interested in the goverment of the USN either,they are now completely irrelavent to anything to do with us at the moment.We are talking about talks between the Alexian Goverment and the goverment of Random Kingdom.USN does not enter into it.
Being bound by %$E^%&£^%*$£^$£ resolution #50, what would the Alexian government like to discuss with Random Kingdom?

Being bound by %$E^%&£^%*$£^$£ resolution #50, what would the Alexian government like to discuss with Random Kingdom?


Resolution what?

Anyhow.


The emperial Goverment of the Alexian Empire is a peacefull and reasonable institution,which does not condone uncesseray violence.As such,we would like for our two goverments to come to some terms of peacefull agreement,in which the present issues would be addressed an future issues avoided.

We recongnize that seeing as the initial conflict is over,that the goverment of Random Kingdom may think our actions,(I.e,military posturing,I.e.Coastal Blockade.)unjustified,and may also think this of our demands.But,under the current situation,we feel that we have the leverage and significance to interest the goverment of Random Kingdom.

What we propose(for the moment) would be for us to draw up a treaty,and for this too be discussed by the two goverments,in hopes of coming to an agreement.We will draw this up shortly,and hopefully,you will be willing to consider it.

(OCC Note:treaty will likely be biased in some ways,but we have more soldiers.....so there!keep in touch,eh?)