NationStates Jolt Archive


To NATO

Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:27
Vos ero evinco. Vos mos totus fio provinces of Whittier si vos trado unconditionally. Nisi , EGO ero vis subvertio totus vestrum.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:30
septumdecim quod duodeviginti velox es decessio San Francisco naval substructio quod caput capitis pro Europe.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:32
Is est non quoque tardus consentio ut subcribo a proprius pacis pax per Whittier.

EGO don't amo res threatened , iam nisi vos congruo ut meus terms , vos ero pessum ire. EGO mos dico off meus tentatio vero , si vos apologize pro threats EGO got per telegrams.
Praetonia
18-10-2004, 10:33
Way to not write Latin properly.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:34
Vos have 24 hora ut respondeo.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:35
Way to not write Latin properly.
Es vos in NATO?
Praetonia
18-10-2004, 10:37
Yes.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:38
Yes.
Quare sum EGO recieving threatening nuntius?
Momanguise
18-10-2004, 10:38
Et io sayo muchos crapos.
Praetonia
18-10-2004, 10:38
No idea.

(Mom it's badly written Latin not badly written Spanish)
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:42
Si NATO congruo ut a pacis pax quod dimitto meus populus quod suus socius unus EGO mos dico tergum meus velox.
Momanguise
18-10-2004, 10:47
(Mom it's badly written Latin not badly written Spanish)

yeah, probably

Quad iandus nox ideus wut mos et sayio

better?
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 10:54
Brezhnekov would amo orbis terrarum scio ut Whittier mos utor totus opes defendo ipsum. Comprehendo vulgus preemptive nuclear offendo.
Axis Nova
18-10-2004, 11:09
Can someone translate this please? :rolleyes:
Islamaisbad
18-10-2004, 11:12
Brezhnekov would to love the world to know when Whittier will to use whole wealth to support itself. Comprehension the common people preemptive nuclear stumble.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 11:13
Can someone translate this please? :rolleyes:
Es vos in NATO?

This will be in Latin for the time being so as prevent someone coming and provoking a war. Particularly the person who sent me the telegram saying that NATO was planning to attack me.
Whittier-
18-10-2004, 20:16
Nevermind. EGO eram iens ut telegram alio quisnam sent mihi illud telegrams constituo they would tentatio mihi quod ut vos would suscipio lemma. Vero EGO got is : Populus Non Instituo : kanuckistanisgay " Ok , iam vos got mihi in is iam ut EGO vultus amo a universa stolidus. Quare does ut nomen sanus familiar? Whittier's duos velox es recidivus ut prodigium. Tamen Whittier habenae would etiam amo ut subcribo a nonaggression pactum quod proprius pax of eternus pacis per NATO foedus. Nos quoque peto fides ut NATO has haud quod nunquam has had ullus intentions of tentatio Whittier.
Shazbotdom
18-10-2004, 20:38
Anyone know where i can translate this?
The Island of Rose
18-10-2004, 20:58
Whittier thinks he's worthy of being attacked, bah. You are not worthy to be shot at.
The Zoogie People
18-10-2004, 21:31
Upon hearing this Sir James, secretary of all things zoogietic, cried out 'Ni!' unto Whittier and proceeded to taunt them continuously. Then he settled down, and delivered a proclamation, and shouted, 'Nunc abite, aut vos iterum ridebo!' and verily did he crackle hence.

I am no longer in NATO, but why do you feel the need to type everything in...latin?


EGO don't amo res threatened , iam nisi vos congruo ut meus terms , vos ero pessum ire. EGO mos dico off meus tentatio vero , si vos apologize pro threats EGO got per telegrams.


ROFL.
Visitors2
18-10-2004, 21:56
Anyone know where i can translate this?
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml
The Island of Rose
18-10-2004, 22:05
You will be to conquer. You will whole fieri provinces of Whittier if you wish you surrender unconditionally. If not , I will be force to destroy whole your. seventeen and eighteen fleet are decrease San Frankish ship's station base and head for Europe. This is not also slow to agree when to write beneath a one's own peace peace very Whittier. I don't to love occurrence threatened , now if not you coincide when my a tree branch , you will be to sink. I will to say off my trial in truth , if you wish you apologize for threats I got very telegrams. If you wish NATO coincide when a peace peace and to leave my populace and his partner one I will to say back my fleet.

LMAOROFL!!!1!!
Sigma Octavus
18-10-2004, 22:05
Whittier, are you actually threatening us with war, or not. I can't really say from what I've translated. What's this about a tree branch?
IDF
18-10-2004, 22:29
Whittier, due to your threats, I'm officially resigning from the Whittier Pact at this time.
The Zoogie People
18-10-2004, 22:32
Vos ero evinco. Vos mos totus fio provinces of Whittier si vos trado unconditionally. Nisi , EGO ero vis subvertio totus vestrum.

I started to translate it, then realized that Whittier is just trying to impress us by showing off using Latin. Whittier, Latin cannot be translated by a program. There is such a thing as verb tense, person, number, and mood. There is such a thing as noun case, person, and number.

This is what I have so far...

I conquer you by means of a master. <-Vos ero evinco. I think you're trying to say 'I will conquer you.' Ero however, is a verb that means 'I will be'...it doesn't make evinco future. Evinco,-ere in the future indicative is 'evincam.'

I am made (you?...) provinces of Whittier safe custom. <--Mos, moris is custom. Vos just doesn't fit anywhere in the sentence. Fio is...passive. Provinces of Whittier just isn't latin.

If I surrender (you?...) unconditionally. You'll surrender unconditonally? Cool. Vos doesn't really fit...although I guess you could translate trado 'bequeath,' but then that doesn't make sense either.

If not, I force, by means of a master.......Yeeah. That just doesn't work. Vestrum is neuter by the way. And subvertio doesn't exist...subverto? Still.

*applauds IDF*
Morathania
18-10-2004, 23:22
This is some of the worst use of Latin that I have ever seen. If you use this wonderful language please use it properly.
Euroslavia
18-10-2004, 23:42
Well...

If you translated it to English, you may get a civilized response. Til then...



Meh!
Morathania
19-10-2004, 00:10
I have translated it. It is giberish and I didn't use a tanslator just my own knowledge of Latin and a Online Latin dictionary.
The Island of Rose
19-10-2004, 00:12
But basically he's saying "Surrender and die" to NATO right?
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 00:14
I started to translate it, then realized that Whittier is just trying to impress us by showing off using Latin. Whittier, Latin cannot be translated by a program. There is such a thing as verb tense, person, number, and mood. There is such a thing as noun case, person, and number.

This is what I have so far...

I conquer you by means of a master. <-Vos ero evinco. I think you're trying to say 'I will conquer you.' Ero however, is a verb that means 'I will be'...it doesn't make evinco future. Evinco,-ere in the future indicative is 'evincam.'

I am made (you?...) provinces of Whittier safe custom. <--Mos, moris is custom. Vos just doesn't fit anywhere in the sentence. Fio is...passive. Provinces of Whittier just isn't latin.

If I surrender (you?...) unconditionally. You'll surrender unconditonally? Cool. Vos doesn't really fit...although I guess you could translate trado 'bequeath,' but then that doesn't make sense either.

If not, I force, by means of a master.......Yeeah. That just doesn't work. Vestrum is neuter by the way. And subvertio doesn't exist...subverto? Still.

*applauds IDF*
That is the problem I ran into win back interpreting it throught the program. But it does give hilarious results as someone noted.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 00:25
Well...

If you translated it to English, you may get a civilized response. Til then...



Meh!
You will be to conquer. You will whole fieri provinces of Whittier if you wish you surrender unconditionally. If not , I will be force to destroy whole your. seventeen and eighteen fleet are decrease San Frankish ship's station base and head for Europe. This is not also slow to agree when to write beneath a one's own peace peace very Whittier. I don't to love occurrence threatened , now if not you coincide when my a tree branch , you will be to sink. I will to say off my trial in truth , if you wish you apologize for threats I got very telegrams. You fui 24 hour when to answer. Are you upon NATO? Wherefore to be I recieving threatening messenger? If you wish NATO coincide when a peace peace and to leave my populace and his partner one I will to say back my fleet. Brezhnekov would to love the world to know when Whittier will to use whole wealth to support itself. Comprehension the common people preemptive nuclear stumble. Nevermind. I was going when telegram to another place quidnam sent me that telegrams to set up they would trial me and when you would to raise up theme. In truth I got this : Populace Not To establish : kanuckistanisgay Ok , now you got me upon this now when I facial expression to love a entire slow of mind. Wherefore does when name sound belonging to a household? Whittier's two fleet are returning when prodigy. Nothwithstanding Whittier government would as yet to love when to write beneath a nonaggression agreement and one's own peace of eternal peace very NATO foederis. We also to make for assurance when NATO these no and never these fueram any intention of trial Whittier.

Note, trial should say attack,
love occurence should say like
coincide should be agree
tree branch should be peace treaty
you will be to sink should be I am forced to prepare for war
say off my trial in truth should say I will call off my attack if you apologize for the threatening telegram
If you wish NATO coincide when a peace peace and to leave my populace and his partner one I will to say back my fleet. should say if you agree to a peace treaty and to leave my nation and my allies alone I will call back my fleet.
Comprehension the common people preemptive nuclear stumble. should say Whittier is prepared to launch a nuclear first strike in self defense
Next part should say: I tried to telegram the person who sent me the telegrams and got "nation does not exist: Kanukistanisgay". Now I feel like a dumbass. I am recalling my fleets back to port.
The last part should say, Whittier stills seeks a nonaggression pact and a permanent peace treaty. We further request assurances that NATO has not and does not have any plans for attacking whittier.
Hamptonshire
19-10-2004, 03:55
Prime Minister Olendorf made his way through the giant Foreign Ministry Building; he was late for his weekly meeting with the Foreign Minister. Mel's going to be angry...then I'll have to calm him down...at least that wastes half an hour Olendorf thinks to himself as he runs up a flight a stairs.

Out of breath, Dr. Olendorf walks the few final steps to the main door leading to the Foreign Minister's Office.

"Tell him I'm here." the Prime Minister says to the secretary.

"Just go right in, sir." the secretary replies.

The Prime Minister prepares himself for what will surely be a severe tongue lashing from Senator Ziller. He was a keg of dynamite with a millimeter long fuse. Taking in a deep breath, Olendorf opened the two French-style doors that led into Ziller's main office. He noticed that Ziller was reading several document, as much as he didn't want to disturb him he knew he need to just get this over and done with.

"Before you start yelling at me Mel..." before Olendorf could continue Senator Ziller started laughing hysterically. His body convulsed with laughter. He threw his head back and laughed as if there wasn't anything wrong with the world. Ziller's face turned bright red and he began to spin his chair.

"Mel, what the hell is so funny?" the Prime Minister asked with great curiousity.

Foreign Minister Ziller, still laughing, grabbed a the papers and handed them to Olendorf. Through the laughter he managed to get out a few words "Chester, you have to read this."

Olendorf began to read the papers. This looks like latin, he thought but it makes no sense.

"Mel, which one of your grandkids wrote this?"

Senator Ziller paused for a moment, his laughter stopped. He looked the Prime Minister straight in the eye and with dead seriousness he managed to say "The Government of Whittier-."

The two men continued to look at each other quietly, neither man blinked. Suddenly Olendorf broke out in the same hysterical laughter that consumed Senator Ziller not more than two minutes before. Olendorf tried to speak but all that he could muster were a few squeaks. Senator Ziller started to laugh again. For then next fifteen minutes, two of the most powerful people in Hamptonshire were reduced to snorting and uncontrollable fits of laughter.
Chellis
19-10-2004, 04:16
Alexandra Mitterand on the subject:

"Whittier has always been a blight on this world, and we would only be too happy to purge it from this world. That being said, NATO has not been planning anything, and Whittier is making another idiotic, pre-emptive action. Just like they did when they rushed over a hundred million men into Dr.Twist, when talks were going on with AMF.

Whittier does not deserve to be the laborers of the world, they do not deserve the jobs that even Houdians look down upon. The only sad thing about shooting them all would be the cost of the bullets used. However, no actions have been made, and all whittier has proved is that its a warmonger. Its disgusting, but not surprising."
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 04:20
Alexandra Mitterand on the subject:

"Whittier has always been a blight on this world, and we would only be too happy to purge it from this world. That being said, NATO has not been planning anything, and Whittier is making another idiotic, pre-emptive action. Just like they did when they rushed over a hundred million men into Dr.Twist, when talks were going on with AMF.

Whittier does not deserve to be the laborers of the world, they do not deserve the jobs that even Houdians look down upon. The only sad thing about shooting them all would be the cost of the bullets used. However, no actions have been made, and all whittier has proved is that its a warmonger. Its disgusting, but not surprising."
:eek: I have over a hundred million troops in Dr Twist? :eek:
How come I didn't know about that?
Chellis
19-10-2004, 04:26
Alexandra Mitterand on Continuation:

"The people of Whittier cannot even comprehend english. They show this by not being able to understand the past tense, something that is taught to even the most basic language learner with a couple years of the language. To Whittier, the word Rushed is the past tense, because it has an ED."
Dr_Twist
19-10-2004, 04:28
Alexandra Mitterand on the subject:

"Whittier has always been a blight on this world, and we would only be too happy to purge it from this world. That being said, NATO has not been planning anything, and Whittier is making another idiotic, pre-emptive action. Just like they did when they rushed over a hundred million men into Dr.Twist, when talks were going on with AMF.

Whittier does not deserve to be the laborers of the world, they do not deserve the jobs that even Houdians look down upon. The only sad thing about shooting them all would be the cost of the bullets used. However, no actions have been made, and all whittier has proved is that its a warmonger. Its disgusting, but not surprising."


OCC: WTF? why the hell would 100 Million troops be sent 2 my Nation? I am confused? I have over 10 Outside Nations with Formal Military Bases in my Nation why would i need more? but 100 Million Troops did theses things just appear out of thin air?
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 04:34
Alexandra Mitterand on the subject:

"Whittier has always been a blight on this world, and we would only be too happy to purge it from this world. That being said, NATO has not been planning anything, and Whittier is making another idiotic, pre-emptive action. Just like they did when they rushed over a hundred million men into Dr.Twist, when talks were going on with AMF.

Whittier does not deserve to be the laborers of the world, they do not deserve the jobs that even Houdians look down upon. The only sad thing about shooting them all would be the cost of the bullets used. However, no actions have been made, and all whittier has proved is that its a warmonger. Its disgusting, but not surprising."
I am sure that if a person in a particular alliance telegramed you demanding your unconditional surrender to be partitioned amongst its members, you would just sit back and do nothing.
If you weren't planning something then whose puppet was Kanuckistanisgay?

Text of Telegram received from Kanuckistanisgay:
You are a blight to the world and NATO has decided to rid the world of you. Give up and agree to be partitioned or we will slaughter all of your people and turn your nation into a radioactive trash heap.

Second Telegram same person:
Reasons we are attacking you:
You are a warmonger
You interfere in affairs not your own wherefore violating other nation's soverighty.
We don't like you.

Third Telegram:
Many nations in NATO want your nation destroyed and are making preparations for just that.

Let me see if I got this right:
1 I respond to threat of attack by mobilizing my forces and seeking talks with NATO and that makes me a war monger.

2. I force myself into other people's internal affairs?

3. I'm a warmonger?

4. I would expect the nations of NATO to come up with a better reason to attack someone than "we don't like you".

5. I am told NATO is preparing to attack me and I am supposed to do nothing?
Are you guys smoking something?

6. The deployment of troops to DT at the specific request of DT was a preemptive military attack?

7. I come here to talk peace and one of you is talking about making war.
"No actions have been made". What about plans. Wonder if Chellis is planning anything.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 04:38
Alexandra Mitterand on Continuation:

"The people of Whittier cannot even comprehend english. They show this by not being able to understand the past tense, something that is taught to even the most basic language learner with a couple years of the language. To Whittier, the word Rushed is the past tense, because it has an ED."
For the record:
Whittier does not and never has had over 100 million troops in Whittier. The maximum size of my military was 45 million of which 10 million were rushed over, as per DT's request.
Now I challenge you to explain how it could be that I forced myself into that situation when I was invited in by one of the parties. 99% of the time I don't get involved with the rps of the 2002/ early 2003 nations unless invited.
Sigma Octavus
19-10-2004, 04:49
I can honestly say that we (NATO) have absolutely no plans of attacking you.
Chellis
19-10-2004, 04:53
I am sure that if a person in a particular alliance telegramed you demanding your unconditional surrender to be partitioned amongst its members, you would just sit back and do nothing.
If you weren't planning something then whose puppet was Kanuckistanisgay?

Text of Telegram received from Kanuckistanisgay:
You are a blight to the world and NATO has decided to rid the world of you. Give up and agree to be partitioned or we will slaughter all of your people and turn your nation into a radioactive trash heap.

Second Telegram same person:
Reasons we are attacking you:
You are a warmonger
You interfere in affairs not your own wherefore violating other nation's soverighty.
We don't like you.

Third Telegram:
Many nations in NATO want your nation destroyed and are making preparations for just that.

Let me see if I got this right:
1 I respond to threat of attack by mobilizing my forces and seeking talks with NATO and that makes me a war monger.

2. I force myself into other people's internal affairs?

3. I'm a warmonger?

4. I would expect the nations of NATO to come up with a better reason to attack someone than "we don't like you".

5. I am told NATO is preparing to attack me and I am supposed to do nothing?
Are you guys smoking something?

6. The deployment of troops to DT at the specific request of DT was a preemptive military attack?

7. I come here to talk peace and one of you is talking about making war.
"No actions have been made". What about plans. Wonder if Chellis is planning anything.


Kanuck...whatever is not a NATO member, and Whittier could have done a little research to find that out. If somalia threatened russia with nato attack, should it fly bombers toward paris demanding surrendur?

Chellis has plans for all situations. We have no intent to attack whittier, not that we wouldn't love to see it happen. There has been absolutely no NATO discussion of invading Whittier.

OOC: You said you sent 120m, thats what im responding to. You lied, whatever, but thats what you said.
Dr_Twist
19-10-2004, 04:53
I can honestly say that we (NATO) have absolutely no plans of attacking you.

Well i beat whitter believes that Surly is Soothing..... However I think he is looking for a NAP between him and NATO on the issue to make sure that NATO doesn't try anything.
Chellis
19-10-2004, 05:46
We see no reason to sign a NAP, as we havn't done anything, nor as a whole ever threatened Whittier. we see no reason why we should give in to the paranoid delusions of the maniac who controls the nation.
Vastiva
19-10-2004, 06:17
Whittier,

This sort of reactivist shenaningans is why I ignore you.
Greenmanbry
19-10-2004, 14:57
After two seconds of serious discussion, followed by thirty minutes of continuous laughter, Parliament and the Ministry of Defense have finalized and submitted their official response to the Whittier threats:


"BAH!"

Foreign Ministry - Ministry of Defense
The Dominion of Greenmanbry
Euroslavia
19-10-2004, 17:33
I'm ignoring this thread, based on the fact that your population isn't recognized by the majority of nations in NATO as the population of the old "whittier" nation. The only population I recognize is the current population of your current nation. I don't care how "Whittier" the original, got deleted, you need to accept the fact that your nation is a hell of a lot smaller.
Morathania
19-10-2004, 18:14
I am an integral part of NATOs upper echelon and I can tell you that we had no plans to attack Whittier, ever. This Kanuckistanisgay is not a member of NATO nor is he a puppet of any NATO nation to my knowledge. An easy search of the NATO records avalaible on this forum show that this person who sent you this telegram was not a member of NATO. Your actions against NATO are driven by the false pretenses of a nation bent on destroying the NATO alliance. I would suggest that you cease your threats against us for actions we have never even thought about taking.


Also if you want to denounce us denounce us in English or in a language you actually know. I am a three year Latin student who has read much in the language and I have to tell you that was the worst use of that language I have ever seen. You do not know even the basics of Latin grammer and your word use is horrible along with the fact that you use the wrong words and your posts turn into unreadable trash. Please type everything that you have written in this pidgin Latin into readable English. Your above post was not readable.
Automagfreek
19-10-2004, 18:14
OOC: Go away Whittier, n00bs like you aren't worth the time or effort.
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 18:52
OOC: Go away Whittier, n00bs like you aren't worth the time or effort.

*snickers*

I wouldn't go that far but I've got to admit that some of the terrible examples from the past (the most memorable was the obcene flash deployment of millions of troops when your territory was hit by a WMD and you were talking to Dr_Twist about it...)

So meh, I don't blame you.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:19
Kanuck...whatever is not a NATO member, and Whittier could have done a little research to find that out. If somalia threatened russia with nato attack, should it fly bombers toward paris demanding surrendur?

Chellis has plans for all situations. We have no intent to attack whittier, not that we wouldn't love to see it happen. There has been absolutely no NATO discussion of invading Whittier.

OOC: You said you sent 120m, thats what im responding to. You lied, whatever, but thats what you said.
I didn't say I sent 120 million. What I did do, is complain about nations rping they 120 million + man armies. I think you are confused.
Where the hell are people getting this false idea that I rp with hundred million man armies?
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 21:22
I didn't say I sent 120 million. What I did do, is complain about nations rping they 120 million + man armies. I think you are confused.
Where the hell are people getting this false idea that I rp with hundred million man armies?

Because I actually remember bitching at you for moving millions of men into Dr_Twist...

You're excuse was that Automagfreek's army is a GODMOD so you had to balance it out.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:24
I'm ignoring this thread, based on the fact that your population isn't recognized by the majority of nations in NATO as the population of the old "whittier" nation. The only population I recognize is the current population of your current nation. I don't care how "Whittier" the original, got deleted, you need to accept the fact that your nation is a hell of a lot smaller.
Where the hell did population come in to come into this? I never said I was using old Whittier's stats in this thread. Are you paranoid or something.
There are two stats I use for Whittier, the old one (for those who don't mind) and the Earth II stats (actual nation stats which everyone else does accept.). Hello. Nowhere did I mention which stats I was using. Hence your accusation here is entirely based on falsehood and further is without merit cause it doesn't address the point of the thread.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:29
Because I actually remember bitching at you for moving millions of men into Dr_Twist...

You're excuse was that Automagfreek's army is a GODMOD so you had to balance it out.
10 million troops no more no less. I told DT I only had 5 million cause that's all I ever rped with. He said I needed at least 10 million. well, even if I did have ten million, if I shipped them all to DT, that would leave my homeland defenseless and cause a default to my other military committments.
At the time my troops were getting $50,000 dollar salaries. To raise it to the necessary 46 million minimum that certain nations said I needed to have, I had to lower troops pay dramatically from $50,000 to $400 and eliminate health, education, and certain other benefits temporarily. Never mind the fact that most of those troops sent to DT weren't perfectly trained at the time (they barely got 2 months of boot camp).
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:30
OOC: Go away Whittier, n00bs like you aren't worth the time or effort.
OOC: Aren't you ignoring Whittier?
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:31
*snickers*

I wouldn't go that far but I've got to admit that some of the terrible examples from the past (the most memorable was the obcene flash deployment of millions of troops when your territory was hit by a WMD and you were talking to Dr_Twist about it...)

So meh, I don't blame you.
flash deployment?
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:34
The reason for the rapid deployment of the large number of troops to DT was because DT requested it, telling me he needed them there ASAP cause he thought that AMF would attack him in the next rl hour, due to a couple of people claiming that AMF and his allies were negotiating in bad faith.
The troops were not deployed just cause I wanted a war with AMF or anyone else.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:41
I'm ignoring this thread, based on the fact that your population isn't recognized by the majority of nations in NATO as the population of the old "whittier" nation. The only population I recognize is the current population of your current nation. I don't care how "Whittier" the original, got deleted, you need to accept the fact that your nation is a hell of a lot smaller.Since you don't bother to check facts:
this is for your education and notice the date of the first post.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345051

There are two whittiers: you can accept the old stats or you can accept the new. That's all I am going to say on the matter. Take it or leave it but please stop bitching about it.
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 21:42
The reason for the rapid deployment of the large number of troops to DT was because DT requested it, telling me he needed them there ASAP cause he thought that AMF would attack him in the next rl hour, due to a couple of people claiming that AMF and his allies were negotiating in bad faith.
The troops were not deployed just cause I wanted a war with AMF or anyone else.

Meh, if I can be assed I'll find the post. Because I'm fairly sure that the numbers you claimed were pretty obcene and it was done in one or two posts... when the entire situation was something along the idea that AMF was just being angry at Dr_Twist but wasn't actually doing anything to him.

The whole thing didn't, in my opinion, reflect well on you. You can explain it how you want now, but I'm fairly sure thats part of the reason AMF conciders you to be a n00b, besides whatever else you have done.

I can't prove what number you had because I don't have the post so it's just your word vs. mine... which results in flaming. But my opinion won't change until I see something which points you out to be a much better RPer then I suspect.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:45
Meh, if I can be assed I'll find the post. Because I'm fairly sure that the numbers you claimed were pretty obcene and it was done in one or two posts... when the entire situation was something along the idea that AMF was just being angry at Dr_Twist but wasn't actually doing anything to him.

The whole thing didn't, in my opinion, reflect well on you. You can explain it how you want now, but I'm fairly sure thats part of the reason AMF conciders you to be a n00b, besides whatever else you have done.

I can't prove what number you had because I don't have the post so it's just your word vs. mine... which results in flaming. But my opinion won't change until I see something which points you out to be a much better RPer then I suspect.
I thought all the threads were moved from the old server. But my subcriptions only go back to the first day of the Jolt server.
Ankhmet
19-10-2004, 21:49
would amo loquor vos nidor caseus. :D
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:52
Iuthia do you know what the thread title was?
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 21:55
would amo loquor vos nidor caseus. :D
would love to say you vapor cheese?
:confused:

EGO tantum amo swiss caseus. ;)
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 21:58
Iuthia do you know what the thread title was?

Don't worry, I found it. It wasn't easy cause I couldn't remember the title myself, but I went through the archive (it was pre-jolt so it wouldn't be found in a search) looking through each page with the broswer search command looking for the word "Twist"

Eventally I found it:

AMF Issues Demands to Dr_Twist (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336734&page=3&pp=15)

The link takes you to page three and just after my post you have the post I was refering to:

Today in response to threats against an ally, Secretary General Brezhnekov ordered the deployment of 120 million troops to the nation of Dr. Twist to defend against an AMF invasion.
It is said that the military also preparing dispatch planes, ships, tanks and tactical missiles to the region as well.
Whittier states its opposition to imperialist aggression by AMF.
The Secretary General also invoked the Whittier Pact, calling on members to come to the defense of a major ally.
This is the largest troop buildup by Whittier since the RussianForces/OusotoranHungarian war of February 2003.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 22:10
Don't worry, I found it. It wasn't easy cause I couldn't remember the title myself, but I went through the archive (it was pre-jolt so it wouldn't be found in a search) looking through each page with the broswer search command looking for the word "Twist"

Eventally I found it:

AMF Issues Demands to Dr_Twist (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336734&page=3&pp=15)

The link takes you to page three and just after my post you have the post I was refering to:

Thanks.
I thought it very convenient for you not to post this post link (found in same thread).
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6501157&postcount=100
Hence those supposed 120 million were never deployed nor did they ever step foot in DT. Basic gun boat diplomacy, and you know what, if the figure was a bluff, it sure as hell worked cause neither you nor AMF followed through on your invasion of DT. You two were upset that I was sending troops "120 m" troops there.
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 22:13
After searching for that thread and finding the original post I couldn't be assed... the thread was 8 pages long.

However I admit that was my own dumb fault. Still, it outlines my problem with your nation at the time.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 22:15
After searching for that thread and finding the original post I couldn't be assed... the thread was 8 pages long.

However I admit that was my own dumb fault. Still, it outlines my problem with your nation at the time.
agreed, I did not remember posting a 120 million man deployment to DT.
Whittier-
19-10-2004, 22:17
either way, that was old whittier. I thought you didn't apply the stats and what not from old whittier to the new whittier.
Iuthia
19-10-2004, 22:18
it sure as hell worked cause neither you nor AMF followed through on your invasion of DT. You two were upset that I was sending troops "120 m" troops there.

Meh, I doubt that was the case. For a start I wasn't even interested in invading as the press conference post directly above your wank claim proved.

I did point out my disgust with the number OOC... all it would have taken was an actual declaration OOC that your number wasn't real. But meh, as far as I'm concerned you probably felt that was ok at the time. Again, it's an opinion, not a fact.

It's probably a good time for me to stop hijacking this now. Whatever the case with Whittier now, I generally don't RP with you or the majority of NATO anyways. I just have some respect for AMF and probably shouldn't have joined in... but I'm an ass and I'll admit it.
Vastiva
20-10-2004, 07:35
The simple fact remains.

Whittier was pwned by someone who wanted him to jump at shadows and make himself look like a complete arse, hopefully to start a war with NATO for whatever reason.

So, whatcha gonna do about it, Whittier? So far, its cost you an ally and even more face then usual. I could name suspects, but why take away from your fun?
Dr_Twist
20-10-2004, 08:23
OCC: I don't wish to get involved, i shall watch and can give information.

The Dr_Twist Government released a Statement stating the following:

We have no respect for the old Communist Government that controlled Dr_Twist at that time, about a week ago another revolution happened and now a Constitutional Democratic Government has been put in place which the People of Dr_Twist have been demanding for years.

The Dr_Twist Government still has no issues with AMF after the communist Government fell that was funded and controlled by Moscow (Russian Forces)

Dr_Twist.
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 02:39
Since you don't bother to check facts:
this is for your education and notice the date of the first post.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345051

There are two whittiers: you can accept the old stats or you can accept the new. That's all I am going to say on the matter. Take it or leave it but please stop bitching about it.


I never said I didn't accept your new stats with your current nation.

On numerous occasions, you've claimed to have your old statistics as your true nation. Even after you posted your Earth 2 armed forces. I can't provide the exact threads in which you've done so, but my memory serves me quite well.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 02:43
The simple fact remains.

Whittier was pwned by someone who wanted him to jump at shadows and make himself look like a complete arse, hopefully to start a war with NATO for whatever reason.

So, whatcha gonna do about it, Whittier? So far, its cost you an ally and even more face then usual. I could name suspects, but why take away from your fun?

I would be interested in these suspects. Not that I'd be able to do much anyway.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 02:49
I never said I didn't accept your new stats with your current nation.

On numerous occasions, you've claimed to have your old statistics as your true nation. Even after you posted your Earth 2 armed forces. I can't provide the exact threads in which you've done so, but my memory serves me quite well.

1. Then why did you assume?

2. It is true that I have used the old stats on numerous occassions even after the E2 AF thread. No need to provide the threads.
However, it was my understanding everyone knew that if I was using the old stats, it only one version of Whittier which no one is obligated to recognize. Course the same goes for the second or E 2 version (same one I use for earth v).
Earth one however, I should have cleared up. Since I don't have land in earth one it don't matter.

As for general rp, it depends on which one I feel like rping with. Though, I didn't post it here, (should have, it would avoided confusion), I was going to use the E2 stats, since most of NATO does not accept the old stats. Unless I am wrong about that.

On second thought, I should have posted which one I was using.
Sarzonia
21-10-2004, 02:50
On numerous occasions, you've claimed to have your old statistics as your true nation. Even after you posted your Earth 2 armed forces. I can't provide the exact threads in which you've done so, but my memory serves me quite well.

[OOC: I distinctly remember your saying shortly after Whittier was deleted that even though Whittier- was newly created, you were going to use the same stats as the Whittier that was deleted. If I remember the tone of your post correctly, your attitude was basically, "I'm using my old stats and if you don't like it, tough.]
Shangia
21-10-2004, 02:54
[OOC: I distinctly remember your saying shortly after Whittier was deleted that even though Whittier- was newly created, you were going to use the same stats as the Whittier that was deleted. If I remember the tone of your post correctly, your attitude was basically, "I'm using my old stats and if you don't like it, tough.]
Too much a big outcry over that. Even most of my allies protested. So I had to adopt the two versions of Whittier.
One so I could keep the old army till Whittier gets back up to 3 bill., should reach 1 billion in a couple more months.
And the second for those nations that won't accept the old stats.
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 02:58
So I'm assuming that Shangia is another puppet of yours, which no doubt is within the Whittier Pact. Thank God IDF withdrew from that. Anyways, you can't just pick one or the others' statistics whenever you feel like it. I had a puppet that is older than Euroslavia, so would it be ok if I used their statistics? You gotta pick one or the other. It's a sign of horrible roleplaying, picking and choosing something like that. Majority of the nations that I know ignore your old statistics, so I suggest that you stick with your newest nations stats. It isn't fair to everyone to do such a thing.

The old Whittier is deleted. Get used to it.
Shangia
21-10-2004, 03:08
So I'm assuming that Shangia is another puppet of yours, which no doubt is within the Whittier Pact. Thank God IDF withdrew from that. Anyways, you can't just pick one or the others' statistics whenever you feel like it. I had a puppet that is older than Euroslavia, so would it be ok if I used their statistics? You gotta pick one or the other. It's a sign of horrible roleplaying, picking and choosing something like that. Majority of the nations that I know ignore your old statistics, so I suggest that you stick with your newest nations stats. It isn't fair to everyone to do such a thing.

The old Whittier is deleted. Get used to it.
No shangia isn't in the WP, its too past tech. Past tech as in 42 million BC whereas Whittier is modern tech. Though I was going to use it as the surrogate for Whittier. But some one pointed out that it didn't have a defense budget.

Your suggestion is noted. New stats will be used (except for the division of Whittier thread, if that's all right. But then even in that thread those stats will be reduced to the new ones, if I can get around finishing it. but I haven't figured out how to use the epidemics to kill off billions of people. It would go too slowly. Unless the riots turn into some kind civil war or there is some other major disaster.)

Eh..why is it horrible rping?
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 19:56
Using statistics of 2 separate nations is n00bish in itself. It's as simple as that.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 20:55
Using statistics of 2 separate nations is n00bish in itself. It's as simple as that.

If they are not in the same thread or rp worlds?
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 21:21
If they are not in the same thread or rp worlds?


Whether they are in the same world or not doesn't apply to the topic. Whittier, the original, was deleted, meaning that the nation no longer exists, therefore meaning, its population does not exist.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 21:22
Whether they are in the same world or not doesn't apply to the topic. Whittier, the original, was deleted, meaning that the nation no longer exists, therefore meaning, its population does not exist.
Whatever happened to freeform?
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 21:27
Whatever happened to freeform?

You can't just claim a population to a country that doesn't exist. That's godmoding. There's a difference.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 21:30
You can't just claim a population to a country that doesn't exist. That's godmoding. There's a difference.
ok. What if its a closed rp and both sides agreed to it?
Euroslavia
21-10-2004, 21:32
ok. What if its a closed rp and both sides agreed to it?


I'm not sure who would ever agree with it...but I suppose it would be ok, only if both sides agree.
Whittier-
21-10-2004, 21:38
I'm not sure who would ever agree with it...but I suppose it would be ok, only if both sides agree.
ok. I can agree with all that.
Kryozerkia
21-10-2004, 21:55
ooc: Soviet Canucks is a puppet of Kryozerkia, along with many others. But, they are the only ones used here.
And sorry allies, I'm going to be more active during the next week, school's been hell.

ic:

After reading through the bullshit that has been spewed by Whittier, the Kryozerkian parliament has decided that something so silly and trivial can only be properly dealt with in the hands of a puppet government. We now go life to the office of President Joe Dingus Mcgee Soviet Canucks, in the capital of Calgrrreee (Calgary). He is with his VP, Sara Levesque (though it looks French it's not really French).

"What's this about a whiter pact?"

"That's the Whittier Pact, sir."

"A Wittier? A pact of the witty? Why the great nation of Soviet Canucks MUST be in it!"

"There is nothing witty about it. It's run by a puny nation."

"Puny eh? Then we must overrun it! HA! More land to the Soviet Canucks; that'll show 'em arrow dynamic ideas!"

"That's 'Aero Dynamik'."

"Eh, whatever eh! But, that's more land for us and that'll put 'em damned Republikans in their place!"

"They are a nation of a fair size."

"The size is only the size of their heads."

"Sir, back to the matter of Whittier?"

"Oh them...send the witty folks a nice bouquet of flowers."

"Whittier is being aggressive towards our allies."

"There is nothing wrong with a little witty agression."

"SIR!! Whittier is a nation; annexation is what Aero Dynamik wants to do to us."

"Eh, eh? No dynamic arrow will stand in the way of my getting of a witty nation of Annexation!"

"It's time for the AA meeting..."

"AA eh?"

"It's not AAA eh, it's..."

"AAAA eh? Oh, be nice and send a diplomatic envoy!"

She glared at him. "No wonder we are labelled beer swilling hosers.... Now, stop being a moron, and get moving!"

The tape recording cuts out there.

The broadcast moves to the Kryozerkia Parliament, which has this response: "Whittier is worthy of a mocking done by a small nation; one of the likes of Soviet Canucks."