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In a formal document signed by the Federation High Council today, the Federation has formally severed all ties with The Fedral Union. This includes all treaties, all pacts, any alliances, any agreements, etcetera.

This is due to information concerning the construction of a vessel which could very well be used for actions which the UFGZ would not condone. The Federation does not wish to be associated with such actions.

From this point on, the UFGZ shall remain far removed from The Fedral Union.

We fear the possibilities of Stupidity.

-The High Council of the Federation

Bump

OOC: What vessel might that be?

OOC: Some massive level 26 Temporal Battle Platfrom that is 70km long, LOL I've already fired ignore cannons at it,
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The ECF is very happy to hear that you have finally rid yourself of TFU

Bump. Yes, this vessel is 70 km long, 65 km tall, and 55 km wide, and armed with level 26 temporal shielding, armor, and weapons... I shall not acknowledge its completion until 54 days from now, however, due to TFU's claims to level 26 temporal tech, I am distancing myself as far as possible from him...

Bump. Yes, this vessel is 70 km long, 65 km tall, and 55 km wide, and armed with level 26 temporal shielding, armor, and weapons... I shall not acknowledge its completion until 54 days from now, however, due to TFU's claims to level 26 temporal tech, I am distancing myself as far as possible from him...

I can see why. Good thing for you to do.

In a formal document signed by the Federation High Council today, the Federation has formally severed all ties with The Fedral Union. This includes all treaties, all pacts, any alliances, any agreements, etcetera.

This is due to information concerning the construction of a vessel which could very well be used for actions which the UFGZ would not condone. The Federation does not wish to be associated with such possibilities.

From this point on, the UFGZ shall remain far removed from The Fedral Union.

We fear the possibilities of Stupidity.

-The High Council of the Federation

Ok I have this to say GZ grow up I don’t OMG call god mod on people who have better tech than me … INRDIA PRIME dose not make the rules… I rp what I want when I want sorry if this is a bit batiy but! You have to learn to take it as it is You ARE ALL TREATING ME like a 5 million pop nation frankly I’m tired of it I don’t care if your severe ties you just want to be a whiney *** because some one beats you .. so all I can say good luck finding some open to rp with you, you and inrdia think you know it all and you don’t I mean I want to make a nice rp about my nation having a revolution and burst of temp tech knowledge But its people like you and but kissers like ECF who screw it up

Ok I have this to say GZ grow up I don’t OMG call god mod on people who have better tech than me … INRDIA PRIME dose not make the rules… I rp what I want when I want sorry if this is a bit batiy but! You have to learn to take it as it is You ARE ALL TREATING ME like a 5 million pop nation frankly I’m tired of it I don’t care if your severe ties you just want to be a whiney *** because some one beats you .. so all I can say good luck finding some open to rp with you, you and inrdia think you know it all and you don’t I mean I want to make a nice rp about my nation having a revolution and burst of temp tech knowledge But its people like you and but kissers like ECF who screw it up


Um, maybe it's because a 70km ship with uberweapons makes for horrible RPing. And from what I've seen, you're the one acting immature because someone chose to ignore you. GZ has done nothing to validate such a reaction from you.

Listen to me and Listen CLEARLY! I don’t want to end up flaming please do not wave that finger at me granted he can ignore me if he wanted to but what’s my pop now? 2 billion? Ive head that 1 billion nations have uber ships of doom IF THIS WAS CORPSAC YOU WOULDIT BE WHINEING!! Uhem sorry if this was any one else besides me you would not be whining so you want to ignore me fine I don’t care K… (sorry I apologize for yelling I need to get my point across )

Listen to me and Listen CLEARLY! I don’t want to end up flaming please do not wave that finger at me granted he can ignore me if he wanted to but what’s my pop now? 2 billion? Ive head that 1 billion nations have uber ships of doom IF THIS WAS CORPSAC YOU WOULDIT BE WHINEING!! Uhem sorry if this was any one else besides me you would not be whining so you want to ignore me fine I don’t care K… (sorry I apologize for yelling I need to get my point across )

I think all uberships are bad for RPing. Which is why I'll never make one. None of my ships will ever be more than 8km in length. Anything more than that and it would be impossibly expensive for any nation as it would cost thousands of trillions of dollars.

And I would complain about a 70km ship no-matter whose it was. I cringe when I see flagrant use of ships >10km in length. I'm not going to deny someone an ubership, but they have to RP it very very well. You can't just go throwing it around willy nilly. It would sit in orbit of the players homeworld most of the time because deploying it would be a hugely expensive and difficult task, so would mainting it even. And the bigger the ship, the harder it is.

So unless you're a pangalactic empire with tens of thousands of worlds of resources and a population in the trillions, uberships aren't practical.

And on another note, I don't think you could RP an ubership like that without godmodding it. I base that on what I've seen of your RPing, I could very well be and probably am wrong, but that's what I think.

DONT BRING ME INTO THIS TFU, see when i make an Ubership of doom its always for ONE OF RP'S.

Also the fact that the largest thing ive ever made is about 18Km long and that was my mothership that rarely was seen and had more disadvantages then a wet paper bag (not to mention thats is now just a mobile shipyard thats no longer RPed since its owned by the Corporations in my empire). You see the Star Forge i have is about 7Km high and a Diamiter of about 5Km and thats just a mobile factory that has to use a star to power it and has vary weak shielding.
I infact do find the 70Km Station a massive godmod and the fact that you have what Level 26 Temp shielding is a tad overbord.

yes this has been an offical Rant by CorpSac (even tho its in my puppet nation Japanese States)

easy solution . *ignores*

*looks at the thread, then goes back to tinkering with his 3km "uberships."*

Um, maybe it's because a 70km ship with uberweapons makes for horrible RPing. And from what I've seen, you're the one acting immature because someone chose to ignore you. GZ has done nothing to validate such a reaction from you.

To be fair, GZ's been bugging him over AIM for quite some time.

Now, TFU, calm down. I'll talk with GZ, and we'll talk about making this thing more managable. Better to have a slightly smaller ubership and more nations to RP with, am I correct?

I will have to agree with Xessmithia. Uberships do tend ruin RP's.
I do have ONE ubership and will probably never build another one. It is only used in massive fleet battles. And it can be brought down if you know what your doing.
A physotic 70km monster would ruin any RP.

*looks at the thread, then goes back to tinkering with his 3km "uberships."*
:D


To be fair, GZ's been bugging him over AIM for quite some time.

I had no possible way of knowing this. But now I do, so I state that they're both being immature.

I will have to agree with Xessmithia. Uberships do tend ruin RP's.
I do have ONE ubership and will probably never build another one. It is only used in massive fleet battles. And it can be brought down if you know what your doing.
A physotic 70km monster would ruin any RP.

Thanks for the support.

i would acept it if it was a tad bit smaller (less then 20Km or if its bigger (the 70km) for a one off RP) and had some major weakness's.

i would acept it if it was a tad bit smaller (less then 20Km or if its bigger (the 70km) for a one off RP) and had some major weakness's.

I agree.

I maintain the FSS Bismarck, which is... nearly 36 km long. However, I spent 80 RL days on it, got substantial international help, etc. It is a significant drain on the economy. However, I have always RPed reasonably well with it...

Ok, so... Industrial Experiment has offered to negotiate affairs between The Fedral Union and Germanische Zustande. Excellent. I trust you gents can handle this yourselves from here?

I maintain the FSS Bismarck, which is... nearly 36 km long. However, I spent 80 RL days on it, got substantial international help, etc. It is a significant drain on the economy. However, I have always RPed reasonably well with it...

Yes, your's has been done very well. So are most, and so would TFU's if it were downscaled quite a bit. And lets get IE and TFU working on that, good luck guys.

Heh, I've been attempting to 'negotiate' since yesterday.

I've been trying to work these numbers down for everyone for almost two months. Though some fail to see reason and logic. I still have offered my assistance, though few actually accept it.

Sheesh, well if i can do anything to help just ask.

As for Xessmithia's charge of me being immature, I have spent hours talking with TFU about his... tendancies. I believed him to be headed toward reasonable thought processes. I explained much of his tech to and for him, I gave him many ideas, and offered a technological partnership to him. However, he approached me and others with this idea of a mobile ubership, armed with level 26 temporal technologies. He typed, "It's a game. I can have what I want," and "OMG Indra is not a god! He does not set the rules!" TFU also had a conversation with ECF in which he claimed to have FTLi along my borders, which could stop any and all ships passing through. When ECF said he could simply open a rift in my territory, TFU claimed that "since you have to go through my territory to get there..." and so on... I have tried to work with TFU, and it just won't happen. So, I created this thread. I have reached an agreement through IE that TFU can have his ship, and I'll recognize it, if it has noticeable holes in its sheilding, can only travel "as fast as an old sailboat" while shields are up, and takes at least 55 years to build.

Anyway, I hope everything works out... also, TFU, for your information, my space borders on no other nation. I am alone in my area of the galaxy.

Level 26 temporal shielding?

The heck?

If there's some unexpected technology tree of nationstates that I have been blisslessly unaware of, might I see a link to such details?

As of this moment, the Temporal Accord is the 3rd topic on the International Forums... read that.

As for Xessmithia's charge of me being immature, I have spent hours talking with TFU about his... tendancies. I believed him to be headed toward reasonable thought processes. I explained much of his tech to and for him, I gave him many ideas, and offered a technological partnership to him. However, he approached me and others with this idea of a mobile ubership, armed with level 26 temporal technologies. He typed, "It's a game. I can have what I want," and "OMG Indra is not a god! He does not set the rules!" TFU also had a conversation with ECF in which he claimed to have FTLi along my borders, which could stop any and all ships passing through. When ECF said he could simply open a rift in my territory, TFU claimed that "since you have to go through my territory to get there..." and so on... I have tried to work with TFU, and it just won't happen. So, I created this thread. I have reached an agreement through IE that TFU can have his ship, and I'll recognize it, if it has noticeable holes in its sheilding, can only travel "as fast as an old sailboat" while shields are up, and takes at least 55 years to build.

Anyway, I hope everything works out... also, TFU, for your information, my space borders on no other nation. I am alone in my area of the galaxy.


Sorry about that GZ. I'm blissfully ignorant of all the behind the scenes info here.

I am da gaming mastah! Bow dahn befoe me, yo Mastah! (bump)

Oh, and, TFU, I was away from my computer... 'tis why I didn't respond...

EDIT (^ABOVE^): Thank you, Xessmithia, I just felt I should explain...

Bump... want as much publicity as possible... *evil laugh*

CROSSMAN: If you see this, DO NOT say anything about my plans...

The United Imperium of Crossman as an ally of both TFU and GZ intends to remain neutral in this situation.

OOC: Essentially, the sum of the situation is thus: (correct me if I'm wrong)

TFU decides he wants "Teh Tempral Teknolgy", that Indra has probably been working on for 5/6 months. In RL. With heaps of effort put in. He elevates himself to level 26 temporal technology, and decides to pull an Ub3R cruiser out of nowhere, which just 'happens' to be 70 Km long. He then decides it is 1337!!11, and threatens anyone who happens to get in his way with it. Hmm..... TFU, I'm assuming this Ub3r ship can't move faster than a rowboat, has serious power problems, and has thousands of potential weak points.
Otherwise.... IGNORE!

IC:

The Empire of Solarais condemns this obvious ploy created by The Fedral Union, and also condemns the fact it attempts to intimidate other nations with such an imaginary ship. We believe that the leader of the Fedral Union is in the human state named insanity, and efforts should be made to remove him from power. Furthermore, any incursions sent against our borders will be swiftly dealt with, and Solaraisi borders have been once again sealed against the Fedral Union, until this obviously incompetent and insane leader is either removed from power, or he removes himself.

OOC: Look TFU isn’t the greatest speller in the world but he can rp. GZ godmodes most of the time with his uber shields of doom that nothing can get through resulting in even more uber weapons of peril from other nations to combat these uber shields of wonder that have instant micro micro micro raise and downing times. No wonder TFU is resulting into building a uber ship of Destruction as it will in most eventualities not even go through his shields. As nothing goes through his shields of magic and godliness. GZ stop your whining, you reduce your uber tech of wonder and magic and TFU will dot he same, give him some slack here. He is surrounded by enemies. He has me to the rear. Chronosia to the left of him. You to the right and almost any other random enemy that feels like destroying something knocks down on his door. For Gods sake he is the most picked upon nation in NS.

Though I no longer rp with the Shivans and lets face it towards the end of their lifespan it was a shit rp, something I wish I could erase. But meh I no longer use them so its not applicable here. I am just pointing out that you call godmode when you yourself godmode, or the actual phrase is tech wank though most would consider it a godmode. Don’t be such a god damn hypocrite.

As for temporal tech, TFU can do whatever he damn well pleases. If you don’t like it don’t rp with him instead of bringing it out into the forums like this, how childish. Its almost like your saying everyone look. LOOK, I’m ignoring this guy follow suit. Where as you should be talking to The Fedral Union discussing this then if you do not come to an agreement you should simply not rp with him instead of airing your laundry in public. Nationsates is a freeform rp based game especially in future tech where almost anything is possible.

I advise an apology to the fedral union and an apology to the players of nationstates themselves for making them cringe through this thread at your bitchfest and semi silent rant at being ignored by The Fedral Union as lets face it he doesn’t really care what you think. Deal with it! So please in future take your problems elsewhere if msn or AIM does not work. Taking it onto the forums will just result in a warning from the mods as the anger rises and flames result.

A helpful and all too true post from Unified Sith

Your loveable villain.

Yeah, I will concede I was more than harsh. TFU does have those particular problems, and, once you bring them into the light, it makes everything a fair bit clearer. Still... I won't change my IC responce, nor will I acknowledge the existence of this ship.

US, just one question. Why is TFU the most hated nation in FT right now. That might answer some questions for us.

To be honest he isn’t the most hated nation in future tech right now, I am most likely. No he is constantly attacked and spat upon on the forums as people like GZ, Feazanthia and others believe that they can wipe the floor with him and his ships. Because he uses Star Trek tech people think he is weak and easy to destroy. Not the case The Fedral Union has lowered his ship count making the high powered weapons that he claims to have realistic and acceptable. He only has about 2000 ships now more than acceptable for the size they are. And why is he the most hated person on NS future tech right now as people like GZ take there problems with The Fedral Union into public and create a stigma around him. It is not fair nor is it just. The mods should really close or delete this thread as its turned into a flame and bashing contest upon the fedral union. Something I expect GZ had planned.

26 temporal technologies?

How many temporal technologies are there?

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OCC : Hello Indra:

I need to talk to you.... privately. For some reason it seems
I can't send you mail. So if you wouldn't mind contacting me it would be
appreciated.

Kor :)

-OOC-

As far as I'm concerned, they're both Wank Masters in thier own right.

TFU for his fleet numbers, tendancy to ignore anything that doesn't go his way, and tech wank.

GZ for his 'OMG SHIELDZ!!" which he didn't know how they worked until someone explained his own tech to him. However, he uses Ass Space considerably less than TFU. Not quite as bad as TFU has a history of being, but the Kid's nation is still young.


TFU, give a reasonable explaination of how you got this Level 26 temporal tech, and take the long time to build up the ship, and I'll accept it. (The tech won't work anyway. ESUS as a whole seems to be getting pretty sick of temporal tech and I'm mass distributing the new T-Jammers once they're done.)

OOC:
With GZ's OMG "SHEILZ!", the godmod about them is that you have to be a major in physics to know HOW to defeat them, which really ticks ALOT of people off, inculding me from time to time.

Now with Trek Tech, WHY DO PEOPLE BASH IT!? Its perfectly good techonolgy. Of crouse at it's base it's kinda weak. But what I've done it pushed it to higher levels so it can compete with all the homebrewed Tech. I think TFU has done the same and I think it works quite well.

-OOC-
Oh, it's not that you have to be a major in physics to beat them. (But then, I'm a sci-fi writer so I'm not a know-nothing twit either...)

It's the fact that whenever anyone develops a way of beating them that isn't temporal in nature or involving sacrificing a virgin chipmunk that had just been sodomized by a vamipric hermaphrodite named Patty on a full blue moon during a solar eclipse on a friday while wearing a polka-dotted bow with a magic wand stuck up your ass...

He cries "THAT WONT WORK!! I IGNORE UT!! I CAN HAV MY SHIELDS BECUZ THE SHIVANS WERE MEAN TO ME!"


Bah. Once I come back from my long break from RPing, I'll have Neo-Mekanta track his ass down. Sweep the galaxy with Minagoroshi, and when GZ's worlds are found... Drop the hammer.

To be honest he isn’t the most hated nation in future tech right now, I am most likely. No he is constantly attacked and spat upon on the forums as people like GZ, Feazanthia and others believe that they can wipe the floor with him and his ships. Because he uses Star Trek tech people think he is weak and easy to destroy. Not the case The Fedral Union has lowered his ship count making the high powered weapons that he claims to have realistic and acceptable. He only has about 2000 ships now more than acceptable for the size they are. And why is he the most hated person on NS future tech right now as people like GZ take there problems with The Fedral Union into public and create a stigma around him. It is not fair nor is it just. The mods should really close or delete this thread as its turned into a flame and bashing contest upon the fedral union. Something I expect GZ had planned.

You may be one of the "bad guys", but I agree wholeheartedly.

OOC: Look TFU isn’t the greatest speller in the world but he can rp. GZ godmodes most of the time with his uber shields of doom that nothing can get through resulting in even more uber weapons of peril from other nations to combat these uber shields of wonder that have instant micro micro micro raise and downing times. No wonder TFU is resulting into building a uber ship of Destruction as it will in most eventualities not even go through his shields. As nothing goes through his shields of magic and godliness. GZ stop your whining, you reduce your uber tech of wonder and magic and TFU will dot he same, give him some slack here. He is surrounded by enemies. He has me to the rear. Chronosia to the left of him. You to the right and almost any other random enemy that feels like destroying something knocks down on his door. For Gods sake he is the most picked upon nation in NS.

Though I no longer rp with the Shivans and lets face it towards the end of their lifespan it was a shit rp, something I wish I could erase. But meh I no longer use them so its not applicable here. I am just pointing out that you call godmode when you yourself godmode, or the actual phrase is tech wank though most would consider it a godmode. Don’t be such a god damn hypocrite.

As for temporal tech, TFU can do whatever he damn well pleases. If you don’t like it don’t rp with him instead of bringing it out into the forums like this, how childish. Its almost like your saying everyone look. LOOK, I’m ignoring this guy follow suit. Where as you should be talking to The Fedral Union discussing this then if you do not come to an agreement you should simply not rp with him instead of airing your laundry in public. Nationsates is a freeform rp based game especially in future tech where almost anything is possible.

I advise an apology to the fedral union and an apology to the players of nationstates themselves for making them cringe through this thread at your bitchfest and semi silent rant at being ignored by The Fedral Union as lets face it he doesn’t really care what you think. Deal with it! So please in future take your problems elsewhere if msn or AIM does not work. Taking it onto the forums will just result in a warning from the mods as the anger rises and flames result.

A helpful and all too true post from Unified Sith

Anything within reason is possible. 70km ships that can move, aren't within reason, neither are GZ's shields, or were/are his uberfast beam construction rays, or his scanner network which kept track of every quantum state of every particle in his system, both of which I took him to task on.

I call em like I see em, I do so because I want there to be at least a semblance of realism in Futuretech. I do realize that everything in FutureTech is unrealistic, which is why I only bring up the most absurd cases, that aren't established sci-fi paradigms, like FTL or Dyson Spheres.

I do this to mysef too, and encourage others to do it to me. I expect people to defend themselves, doing so makes both parties agree on a compromise. I don't single out anybody, anybody who throws put something I find abusrd will have me talking to them about it. Nothing you can say, will stop from doing so.

I had originally intended for my 1000th post to be some great RP I had planned... But, that can wait.

I had no intentions of this turning into a "flame fest" against TFU, it was just to distance myself from TFU, who was my former ally and second party in at least one agreement.

My only squabble with him is over this ship and temporal tech. I do not bash Star Trek Tech, as I myself am a Trekie, and I have frequently yelled at people who claim "star trek sucks." TFU did not even have temporal technology to my knowledge before he showed me some specs for a new Ubership, which included level 26 temporal armor. He cannot simply research such advanced weapons in one day, no way. And there is no way such a large ship could be constructed, even if he had my Matter-Organizer beams.

As for the Matter-Organizer beams: Many nations use nanites for various ship-related purposes, such as repair or construction. Mekanta said once that his ships are constructed in a "nanite bath", while ECF uses nanites for repairs on most of his vessels. My Matter-Organizer beams are essentially a replacement for nanites. They do the same thing, manipulate atoms. As in Star-Trek and Star-Wars, there are Tractor Beams. An anology would be that my matter-organizer beams are just tractor beams for positioning of Atoms. I do not understand why such a widely used technology, which, for the purposes it is used, does not accept a new technology which, even though beyond the bounds of feasibility, does the exact same thing. It would take millions, billions of nanites to construct a ship, and each of our beams just acts as a few thousand/million nanites. No big deal. Xessmithia, as for power concerns, simple fusion cores could provide enough energy. And, where would the nanites get the energy needed to manipulate the atoms? Tiny "backpacks" with some kind of powersource?

As for the temporal shielding, Our computer systems, which I will get to in a moment, operate at or faster than the speed of light. As such, commands to raise and lower the shields could be given at the speed of nanoseconds. Once a weapon reached the limits of the shields, it could be dropped and then raised as soon as the weapon passed through the shields. Seeing as almost all of our standard weapons, Particle Beams, Particle Cannons, Temporal Erasure Waves/cannons operate at the speed of light, or are simply time themselves, would be able to pass through the shield in a matter of microseconds or faster. Torpedoes and larger weapons would likely take a few seconds to pass through. But, in the battle, Mekanta, you still did quite a bit of damage. As I remember, you destroyed some 60 of my ships...

As for the whole thing with the Normandeicht/ESUS battle, I discovered, to my dismay, that my Quantum Signature Detectors did not operate as I had originally thought... I have since devised a new theory to explain their workings... However, all matter and energy has a quantum signature. There is no way around that. Therefore, my sensors are infallible, other than for programming or human error, or the target not being in realspace.

As for my Holographic cores, you could say they store information in light itself. The enourmous cores can store quadrillions of quadrillions of quadrillions of bits of information, all simply by detecting the various properties of the stored wave/particle. Oh, by the way, working on an even more efficient method of storing information: DNA.

Anyway, this thread was not a TFU bashing thread, I did not even bash him. Only his new ship which he claimed to have the first time, and his temporal tech.

I had originally intended for my 1000th post to be some great RP I had planned... But, that can wait.

I had no intentions of this turning into a "flame fest" against TFU, it was just to distance myself from TFU, who was my former ally and second party in at least one agreement.

My only squabble with him is over this ship and temporal tech. I do not bash Star Trek Tech, as I myself am a Trekie, and I have frequently yelled at people who claim "star trek sucks." TFU did not even have temporal technology to my knowledge before he showed me some specs for a new Ubership, which included level 26 temporal armor. He cannot simply research such advanced weapons in one day, no way. And there is no way such a large ship could be constructed, even if he had my Matter-Organizer beams.

As for the Matter-Organizer beams: Many nations use nanites for various ship-related purposes, such as repair or construction. Mekanta said once that his ships are constructed in a "nanite bath", while ECF uses nanites for repairs on most of his vessels. My Matter-Organizer beams are essentially a replacement for nanites. They do the same thing, manipulate atoms. As in Star-Trek and Star-Wars, there are Tractor Beams. An anology would be that my matter-organizer beams are just tractor beams for positioning of Atoms. I do not understand why such a widely used technology, which, for the purposes it is used, does not accept a new technology which, even though beyond the bounds of feasibility, does the exact same thing. It would take millions, billions of nanites to construct a ship, and each of our beams just acts as a few thousand/million nanites. No big deal. Xessmithia, as for power concerns, simple fusion cores could provide enough energy. And, where would the nanites get the energy needed to manipulate the atoms? Tiny "backpacks" with some kind of powersource?

As for the temporal shielding, Our computer systems, which I will get to in a moment, operate at or faster than the speed of light. As such, commands to raise and lower the shields could be given at the speed of nanoseconds. Once a weapon reached the limits of the shields, it could be dropped and then raised as soon as the weapon passed through the shields. Seeing as almost all of our standard weapons, Particle Beams, Particle Cannons, Temporal Erasure Waves/cannons operate at the speed of light, or are simply time themselves, would be able to pass through the shield in a matter of microseconds or faster. Torpedoes and larger weapons would likely take a few seconds to pass through. But, in the battle, Mekanta, you still did quite a bit of damage. As I remember, you destroyed some 60 of my ships...

As for the whole thing with the Normandeicht/ESUS battle, I discovered, to my dismay, that my Quantum Signature Detectors did not operate as I had originally thought... I have since devised a new theory to explain their workings... However, all matter and energy has a quantum signature. There is no way around that. Therefore, my sensors are infallible, other than for programming or human error, or the target not being in realspace.

As for my Holographic cores, you could say they store information in light itself. The enourmous cores can store quadrillions of quadrillions of quadrillions of bits of information, all simply by detecting the various properties of the stored wave/particle. Oh, by the way, working on an even more efficient method of storing information: DNA.

Anyway, this thread was not a TFU bashing thread, I did not even bash him. Only his new ship which he claimed to have the first time, and his temporal tech.

Did you forget all the math I did? To get your beams to operate with the same speed as conventional methods you had to use absurdly fast times and amounts of atoms. Using more plausible yet still generous numbers it takes thousands of years to build your ships. Not to mention it would be hundreds of thousands of times more expensive than "convential" construction methods. And you'd have to move the atoms at FTL speeds, I'm afraid you can't do that. You may have FTL drives, but those are big and lack the fine control needed for your beams. Not to mention that you'd need to use your entire systems power sources constantly to build just 1 ship. Your original purpose for having your beams repair battle damage was far more plausible, go with that instead.

And nanites are too small to carry any form of power generator that would last for any appreciable amount of time. A nanite would move one atom, then be powerless, to refuel it with another nanite would deplete the power of the refueling nanite, to make another nanite would deplete the power of the "mother" nanite. Any transmitted power system would fry nanites because they're so small. Not to mention they suffer from an even slower rate of construction than your beams. They're so susceptible to radition and air currents that all construction would have to be done in a hermetically sealed vacuum clean room. They're good for killing cancer cells, not building starships.

Also if your holographic cores can store over 10^60 bits of information there's no need to switch to DNA as it is much less capapble than what you have. And I don't remember you ever answering how you access your information without destroying the crystal core.

As for your particle weapons, they are high percentage c weapons. They don't travel at c, it's physically impossible, and again the FTL thing won't work as it lacks the ultra fine control you'd need to make them light-speed weapons. Doesn't make them anyless deadly however if they're constricted to STL though.

They're good for killing cancer cells, not building starships.

Even at that, biotech is better.

Heh heh... Sorry 'bout that... I forgot about the limits of mass and C...

Well, remembering the limitations of weapons with mass, We'd wait the few seconds for particle beams and such... However, our energy weapons would be able to travel through at C.

About accessing the data stored, it is simply a matter of reading the positions of the stored photons. Or the particular frequencies of the light waves. Like a much more advanced version of todays hard drives...

And, I just happened to be making sarcastic comments about powersources for nanites. I'm simply saying that if it is accepted that certain nations can construct or repair their vessels with nanites, why can't I use this beam technology? It's not like I say, "OH< UZING MI BEEMZ LEHTZ MI BILLD THIZ UBERSHIP IN WON WEAK!!!" I'm just saying that this technology can build cap ships in a few months(4-16), escorts in a few weeks(5-20), fighters in a few days (2-10), etcetera. That isn't godmoddish.

They're good for killing cancer cells, not building starships.

Even at that, biotech is better.

Very true.


Heh heh... Sorry 'bout that... I forgot about the limits of mass and C...

Well, remembering the limitations of weapons with mass, We'd wait the few seconds for particle beams and such... However, our energy weapons would be able to travel through at C.

About accessing the data stored, it is simply a matter of reading the positions of the stored photons. Or the particular frequencies of the light waves. Like a much more advanced version of todays hard drives...

And, I just happened to be making sarcastic comments about powersources for nanites. I'm simply saying that if it is accepted that certain nations can construct or repair their vessels with nanites, why can't I use this beam technology? It's not like I say, "OH< UZING MI BEEMZ LEHTZ MI BILLD THIZ UBERSHIP IN WON WEAK!!!" I'm just saying that this technology can build cap ships in a few months(4-16), escorts in a few weeks(5-20), fighters in a few days (2-10), etcetera. That isn't godmoddish.

No it isn't, but it's also not any faster than normal construction technigues. So I'm cool with that, just make a few million bucks more expensive to compensate for the cost of building it atom by atom.

And indeed all energy weapons travel at c. And I think you mean CDs, because hardrives are magnetic as far as I know. But hey I don't know computers so I'm not likely right on that matter.

OOC?: As a fully qualified computer repair Technician in Real Life, I would have to say both of you are right. The Crystals GZ uses to store his info on is a lot like a hard drive. on the opposite side of the coin, it would also require a method akin to burning to store the information in the crystal. the only question I have is, since you store info as light, how do you then erase sensitive knowledge? Do you shatter a precious crystal or do you overwrite it some 32 odd times with junk like the Military does with there Hard drives?

ooc: We clear the crystals in much the same way as a magnet to a hard-drive. By sweeping the crystal with light, we essentially flood the crystal with photons/wave patterns and replace the current photons/wavepatterns. It would basically be a blank screen if any information was called upon. All the stored photons and wavepatterns would be exactly the same.

I see.