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someone hacked into Phoenix Dynamix data base and has displayed all the information on TPM Balistic missiles!!!!!! OH NOES!!!!

SRBM SS-31C Pershing II
Accurate to within 1meter of target
Primary function: Short/Theater-Range ballistic missile
Contractor: Phoenix Dynamix Inc.
Weight: ? pounds ;Payload: 2,800 pounds
Diameter: 3.1 feet
Range: 1,120+ miles
Speed: Hypersonic
Ceiling: 500 miles
Guidance system: Satelite targeted, Inertial system
Warheads: 1 200ktnuke/HE/chem/bio/emp/bnkrbstr/fuel-airbmb/H/A/Nuetron
Unit Cost: $500 million per missile, 1.5 million per mobile launcher w/missle
Inventory: Active force, 1,000 Reserve, 1,200
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TRBM SS-2A DART
Accurate to within 2.8 feet of target
Primary function: Theater/Short-Range ballistic missile
Contractor: Phoenix Dynamix Inc.
Length: 55 feet
Weight: 20,578 pounds
Diameter: 2.9 feet
Range: 1,000+ miles
Speed: Mach 20
Ceiling: 500 miles
Guidance system: Satelite targeted, Inertial system
Warheads: 1 HE/chem/bio/emp/bnkrbstr/fuel-airbmb/H/A/Nuetron
Unit Cost: $1 million per missile, 3 million per mobile launcher
Inventory: Active force, 1,500 Reserve, 1,000
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N-NICBM
Accurate to within 2.5 feet of target
Primary function: Non-Nuclear Intercontinental ballistic missile
Contractor: Phoenix Dynamix Inc.
Power plant: Three solid-propellant rocket motors;
first stage, second stage, dual liquid;
third stage, single liquid
Length: 69 feet
Weight: 80,578 pounds
Diameter: 6 feet
Range: 6,000+ miles
Speed: Approximately 15,000 mph (Mach 23)
Ceiling: 700 miles (1,120 kilometers)
Guidance system: Satelite targeted, Inertial system
Warheads: 3 HE/chem/bio/emp or 1 bunker buster or 1 fuel-air bomb
Unit Cost: $6 million
Inventory: Active force, 10,000 Reserve, 10,000
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ICBM
Accurate to within 2.5 feet of target
Primary function: Intercontinental ballistic missile
Contractor: Raytheon Aerospace and Phoenix Dynamix
Power Plant: First three stages, solid-propellant; fourth stage, storable liquid
Length: 75 feet
Weight: 195,000 pounds
Diameter: 8 feet
Range: 6,000+ miles
Speed: Mach 23
Ceiling: 700 miles
Guidance system: Satelite targeted, Inertial system, passive ra/ir
Warheads: 10 Avco MK 21 re-entry vehicles (hydrogen)
Unit Cost: $60 million
Inventory: Active force, 5,000 Reserve, 2,000
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SICBM
Accurate to within 3.7 feet of target
Primary function: [Super] Intercontinental ballistic missile
Contractor: Base Aerospace and Phoenix Dynamix
Power Plant: First three stages, solid-propellant; fourth stage, liquid
Length: 180 feet
Weight: 225,000 pounds
Diameter: 9.5 feet
Range: 14,000 miles
Speed: Mach 25+
Ceiling: 900 miles
Guidance system: Satelite targeted, passive ra/active ra/ir/lidar/tv guided
Warheads: 12 PD MK 5 re-entry vehicles (nuetron/hydrogen
Unit Cost: $80 million
Inventory: Active force, 2,000 Reserve, 1,000

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/icbm/lgm118_6.jpg

nice

OOC: that looks like an asteroid shower to me...

OOC: You forgot to put OOC before that!

now I shall bring chaos to the world! :mp5:

Given the costs of actually running an ICBM system.. having 42,000 ICBMs is going to bankrupt your country pretty fast..

from FAS

No one purchaser names a possible price for the purchase of an ICBM, since none have been sold as unregulated commodities in the way that SCUDs have. However, other sales provide some indication of the rough costs. The Brazilians reportedly ex-pected to receive in excess of $10 million each for their Condor II, whose range of 1,000 km is much less than intercontinental, and the Chinese apparently received about $20 million for each of the 2,500-km range CSS-2s they sold to Saudi Arabia. Many studies within the United States indicate that the Peacekeeper, a highly capable and advanced missile, costs the military about $65 million per copy.

At $50 million per missile, a country would need to invest about $2 billion to purchase or build 40 missiles. When this is compared to the roughly $200 million the Iraqis paid to build their Saad 16 missile manufacturing facility, it becomes clear that the economies of many countries cannot support a nuclear weapons production capa-bility and an ICBM launch capability.


Add to this a minimum of $5m per year per missile in operation costs and you will find that your total spend will be $2,100,000,000,000 initially plus $210,000,000,000 per annumin running costs..

Methinks your going to find you cant spend any money on much else...

bah, who needs anything else! just tell people to give it to you lol

then why even bother if with all this money down the drain there isn't really a threat at alll

Add to this a minimum of $5m per year per missile in operation costs and you will find that your total spend will be $2,100,000,000,000 initially plus $210,000,000,000 per annumin running costs..

Methinks your going to find you cant spend any money on much else...

$210 billion a year is not much for a NS economy

Well, if using NS numbers, factor it up to an NS economy level.. its still a lot then isn't it..

Well, if using NS numbers, factor it up to an NS economy level.. its still a lot then isn't it..

ok, For a nation of smaller size then you are correct, however when i posted the message i was thinking about my economy (i have an $800 billion military budget)

OOC: Its not just that.. 40,000 + ICBMs is sheer insanity.. can you imagine the size of the command system, the troops required to run it.. the fact that if it was in silos it's take up a fair amount of your country space...


For example, here is my total nuclear forces, remembering that I have merged with another country, so my total pop is 1.4bn nowadays.. plus I have a very strict nuclear doctrine in place, so I am not going to launch these any time soon but rather keep updating my forces..

40 x LAS-SS1 Slapstick (450kt warhead)

20 x LAS-SS2 Sharpner - 1 x 20Mt warhead

20 x LAS-SS3 Surfer - 3x400kt MIRVed warheads

50 x LAS-ASMX1 Long Range Cruise Missile with 200kt warheads

40 x R-39/SS-N-20 Sturgeon SLBM (10x100kt MIRV warhead)

60 x R-29RM/SS-N-23 Skiff SLBM (4x100kt MIRV warhead)

Total = 230 missiles capable of hitting a total of 810 targets through the used of MIRVed warheads.

So as you can see, a rather small force can in fact be rather considerable..

about size - hell yes - 40K nukes is massive overkill

If you bothered to actualy read my post you would realize I only have 7,000 active nuclear missiles and 3,000 in storage. The rest are non-nuclear.

By the way, at last check my budget
according to pippan: Military Budget: $38,319,750,000,000.00
according to thirdgeek: Defence: .... $17,318,328,500,143.13
GNP CALC Military Spending: .......... $25,600,000,000,000.00
so die

OOC: No need to be testy

IC:

Possibly the oldest existing terrorist faction in the world that is still active to this day, 'War Declrad on J00', has claimed responsibility to the hacking of these servers. This is the terror group that extorted money out of gaming companies in chellis, killed three million in an assault on a biochemical lab which resulted in the release of a deadly toxin, purported kidnappers of Sirithil, the bombers of babel, and countless other acts of crime.

While Declrad has not shown any proof it has done the acts, it states that it has information on many nations arsenals, and will continue to proliferate the information if global reductions are not enacted by key countries, mostly the ones they have info on. They claim they have the info on many NATO, RWC, RBA, and independant nations arsenals as well.

Chellis holds a zero-tolerance policy with this insurgant group as it is seen in Chellis. Every day progress is made, though it would seem they make twice as much. Chellis has never been able to fully control them. They seem to be operating in foreign countries as well, especially Chellian Europe and Africa, as regular internet access is not available in Chellis, with a few secure lines giving the government access.

War Declrad on J00 has not given any specific terms to TPM, though it has stated that TPM will suffer grave consequences if it does not begin the demolition of its silo's capable of firing missiles over 6,000km in range, including SLBM's.

Chellis promises the world it will work to destroy this group, and hopes all information on cells in foreign countries can be told to Chellis. We claim no responsibility for these citizens, they are not considered Chellian citizens and do not have Chellian protection. However, if any chellians are found, we reserve the right to try them if they are of chellian blood, to determine if they are terrorist or not. If they are, we will relinquish to the violated nation to prosecute as they wish.

OOC: Im not saying we did it. Just trying to have some fun. War Declrad on J00 was made I believe Feb 03, really early anyways. It evolved from a genuine terror group to a state-supported group, though in a lose sense. We don't kill them, they do what they wish internationally with no help from us, and if we ask them to do something, they do it. We didn't ask this though.

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(ooc: hmmm...... interesting, I will respond tomorrow. I have to be going somewhere there are no computers for a little bit.)

If you bothered to actualy read my post you would realize I only have 7,000 active nuclear missiles and 3,000 in storage. The rest are non-nuclear.

By the way, at last check my budget
according to pippan: Military Budget: $38,319,750,000,000.00
according to thirdgeek: Defence: .... $17,318,328,500,143.13

so die


Ok, let's be pedantic.. you can't just say you have 10,000 missiles with interchangable warheads.. changing the warhead on a missile is still quite a major thing... plus you really do sound ridiculous proclaiing to have 7,000+ missiles... frankly it stinks of numberwank..

What, english please. I dont interchange warheads, all 10,000 nuclear missiles have thier own warhead(s). The U.S. and Russia had 8,000+ nuclear missles each at the hieght of the cold war, considering I have 2 times the population of both those nations combined, a higher tax rate, and a much better economy, 10,000 ICBMs is well with in the realm of reality.

If you honestly think so... Though you do seem to miss one thing here.. your land mass is the same as it has been from day one... if you have billion plus population in that space you have so many more problems to deal with regarding overcrowding etc etc.... How on earth do you fit 10,000+ silos in as well...

go figure


(the above point appears to have been missed by most people on here...)

If you honestly think so... Though you do seem to miss one thing here.. your land mass is the same as it has been from day one... if you have billion plus population in that space you have so many more problems to deal with regarding overcrowding etc etc.... How on earth do you fit 10,000+ silos in as well...

go figure


(the above point appears to have been missed by most people on here...)
I control the entire North American contient, cuba, most of the carrieban islands, several pacific islands, hawaii and parts of panama. I have also conquered 2 small (NS) nations in the middle east/africa
We have only 7,000 silos.

I operate 27,000 Nuclear Warheads. Of course, thats only around 2,700 ICBM's, but the beauty of some silo's are, you can have more then one missile in them, by simply launching, sliding another missile into place along the tracks, firing, and repeating. That is, if you are using Russian technology for cold launches. But of course, I will be bringing my ICBM number upto 6,200 soon, with my new SS-29, and with a budget of $18 Trillion, I'd like to see you stop me with your "finacial" ideals.... what the hell is a budget anyways?