NationStates Jolt Archive


Emperor declares communism crime against the state.

Itinerate Tree Dweller
14-10-2004, 04:24
The Emperor announced the addition of a new clause to the constitution of the Empire of Itinerate Tree Dweller. The clause would make all forms of Marxism and communism crimes against the state, punishable by torture and death. Following the announcement there were celebrations in the street as citizens rejoiced about being free from the Marxist menace.

"My husband and I was suffered for years under a brutal Marxist regime until we defected to Itinerate Tree Dweller. We now live in a 3-bedroom house and own two cars. God bless Emperor Kersk." - Judy Swan - business secretary

"Before Emperor Erik's father took power, this nation was run by a tyrannical communist party. Emperor Lazarus Kersk crushed the communists and regained our homeland for us true Itinerate Tree Dwellers." - James Burnside - shipyard worker
Decisive Action
14-10-2004, 04:34
"ITD has the full support of Mississippi in his endeavor to purify his land of a deadly and virulent plague... Marxism."


Czar Roger Fabus
Sevaris
14-10-2004, 11:47
Ditto. We fully support ITD in his efforts to crush Marxism.

-Kaiser Alec Mannerheim
Ouerziland
14-10-2004, 12:10
Ouerziland frowns upon your decision to deprive your people of their own opinions by destroying something that benefits everyone.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
14-10-2004, 21:50
Ouerziland frowns upon your decision to deprive your people of their own opinions by destroying something that benefits everyone.

"The people will believe and think what they are told to believe and think. Marxism is a plague." - Emperor Erik Kersk
The Redavic Union
15-10-2004, 01:48
The Imperium has decided to take note of this action and demand a reason for outlawing Marxism. Although we are not a Marxist nation, nor Communist, our founding fathers establish this nation as a Communist regime. Communism can give birth to a super power nation.

We want a reason for this outlaw and the restriction of freedoms that you have placed on your people with in 48 hours of this demand. If this is not met, a possible hostile action could and most likly will occur.

Regards,
Emperor Viplear
The Imperium of The Redavic Union
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2004, 02:11
The Imperium has decided to take note of this action and demand a reason for outlawing Marxism. Although we are not a Marxist nation, nor Communist, our founding fathers establish this nation as a Communist regime. Communism can give birth to a super power nation.

We want a reason for this outlaw and the restriction of freedoms that you have placed on your people with in 48 hours of this demand. If this is not met, a possible hostile action could and most likly will occur.

Regards,
Emperor Viplear
The Imperium of The Redavic Union

Who are you to place demands on my vast empire? I shall do with my population as I see fit, and will not answer to any foreign power which chooses to interfere. These terrorists are bombing our schools (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=365198) and shipping illegal weapons and drugs (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363975) into my nation and you accuse me of violating the "rights" of my citizens.
The Redavic Union
15-10-2004, 02:34
I have reviewed your sposed attacks. Now I am not claiming them to be false, and we feel no sorrow for your people. But you have put forth no evidence that these terrorist are Communist and Marxist. If you cannot supply the Imperium with qualitative evidence, then greater measures will be taken.



(OOC:Could I get a map of your nation incase we decided to clash over this)
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2004, 02:38
The TDMP claimed responsibility for the attack, what more evidence do we require!! The Tree Dweller Marxist Party is a known marxist group existing in this nation, they had been dormant for quite some time. I do not answer to you. These are MY civilians. Mine to do with as I see fit. MINE! Not yours!
Jennivier
15-10-2004, 02:42
ooc: Is this a roleplay or we are we bragging about whos dad has the better job?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2004, 02:46
ooc: the maps are in my factbook, which is linked to in my signature. Many of the maps are there. Just a few I still have to make. Note, my empire is many nations.
Borman Empire
15-10-2004, 02:52
We will support our ally Itinerate Tree Dweller
Red Liberation Front
15-10-2004, 02:52
Secret IC:

Videotape sent to ITD emperor

A terrorist wearing a Russian Army uniform and the Hammer and Sickle insignia on his shoulder began to speak.

"Greetings, capitalist pigdogs.

Our organization has placed you on our list of target nations for attacks, as you have shown your genocidal colors against our comrades who remain oppressed by your corporate dictatorship.

Have a good night's sleep, for it will likely be your last."

The masked man pulled out a Makarov pistol and empited the cartridge into a tattered ITD flag.

The tape ended there.
Fascist Confederacy
15-10-2004, 03:02
The Fascist Confederacy sends out full support to ITD. We hope that you help us all eradicate this viral plague from the face of existence.
Layarteb
15-10-2004, 03:14
The epidemic known as Marxism leads to the plague known as Liberalism. Fine job.
The Redavic Union
15-10-2004, 03:24
The Imperium wishs for nations of superior opression(Fascist Confederecy) to think about who they are supporting, before they pledge their support.
Fascist Confederacy
15-10-2004, 03:33
The Reich wishes to ask the Redavic Union to show proof of this oppression. Considering the citizens of our nations are happy. And we do not take kindle to subtle threats from any nation.
The Redavic Union
15-10-2004, 03:35
Well then, if you beleive so, but if you are Facist...
Fascist Confederacy
15-10-2004, 03:39
OOC: Yes, we are Fascist. Obviously. A mixture of Nazism and Italian Fascism. What of it? You appear to be Behvolavists (Sp?). Not to mention, FC is just the Marxist. Thus, don't label our nation as oppressive. We know what oppression is.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
15-10-2004, 03:48
The Emperor appreciates all support given.
The Redavic Union
15-10-2004, 03:50
No, sorry but we are an Aeroist nation.

(OOC:Once i finish the type-up I will put it up so all can see exactly what Aeroism is, there is alot of speculation between those who are intrested in it.)
Free Pacific States
15-10-2004, 04:06
OOC: Just an OOC question...you do realise that Marxism isn't a form of government, but a form of currencial trade?

Moving beyond that, just wondering, by communism and marxism, do you mean stalinism and socialism as well? Or just Communism (A socialist dictatorship), and Stalinism (Well..uh..if you've ever heard of Joseph Stalin...yea...if you haven't, google him, ASAP).
IC:
FPS would like to officially point out to the government of Itinerate Tree Dweller that not all marxists and socialists are communists or stalinists, and that not all marxists and socialists, and even communists, believe in terrorism, the drug trade, or any of the other activities listed by Itinerate Tree Dweller's government. The listing of such could be compared to the listing of all Germans as Natsis, all Russians as Stalin, and all Muslims as terrorists.

As a response to the political incorrectness of the statement of the government of Itinerate Tree Dweller, and the inherrant anti-civil right, anti-political freedom, and anti-human right beliefs transposed within, FPS is officially condemning these actions, and will continue to be shocked and appaled by the Emporer's obviously uneducated and biased political choice.
Kanabia
15-10-2004, 04:10
The Socialist Workers Democracy of Kanabia will take all refugees fleeing oppression in ITD, regardless of political alignment.

Furthermore, we make an offer to the Marxists to host the ITD communist party in exile.
The Parthians
15-10-2004, 05:31
The Shah of Parthia congratulates Emperor Kursk on the annihilation of the marxist pigs.
The Redavic Union
16-10-2004, 02:02
We now have reason to believe that ITD is using this to hide somthing on a greater scale. We also know that terrorist actions in ITD will not cease to exist because of this. Reason being that the government does not know exactly who supports communism and who doesn't. Even if the government asked, they would get all no's in response.

Obviously the government of ITD knows this, so why do somthing that would have no effect on the nation. We must get to the bottom of what ITD is hiding.

I would like to bring together a coalition of nations to investigate the actions of all ITD offcials aswell as the movement of the ITD armed forces.
Tanialand
16-10-2004, 02:23
How dare the Emperor try to do this. Obviously if people are trying to join these political parties (and the fact that they exist) means that the Emperor is failing some of his subjects. Also how can you condemn a form of thought where everyone may be poor...but all are poor together. Before you start to argue against something, maybe people should learn more about it, and especially the reason why it was created in the first place.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 02:32
The armed forces have been stationed in the homeland for years, the colonies having formed their own defensive forces. The units used to supress civil matters are purely police forces and have no connection to the traditional ITD military.

It has been 3 months since the last communist attack, we estimate that our efforts are starting to work.

(ooc I use 1 rl week = 1 ns year for the most part.)
Borman Empire
16-10-2004, 02:59
Communism does NOT work. Any human can bring about the destruction, and will. Unless your entire poulation in genetically brain-washed your country will go down the tubes eventually.
Kanabia
16-10-2004, 03:20
Communism does NOT work. Any human can bring about the destruction, and will. Unless your entire poulation in genetically brain-washed your country will go down the tubes eventually.

Not so. Critical thought and democratic dissent is recognised in Kanabia as essential to progress and building a more efficient, fairer society.
The Redavic Union
16-10-2004, 03:47
(ooc:i use 1 rl month = 1 ns year.)

IC: Are there massive of military forces in certain areas? If so I (and up coming coalition) would like to know where at and a relative number.

Also I would like other nations to join into the coalition to find out what ITD is hiding from the international community. This investigation will go alot smoother if multiple nations are involved. Also the information produced from this can be more reliable and credible if more join in.
Free Pacific States
16-10-2004, 03:49
Communism does NOT work. Any human can bring about the destruction, and will. Unless your entire poulation in genetically brain-washed your country will go down the tubes eventually.

OOC: Just wondering if thats an OOC comment, and if so, why it wasn't tagged as such.

If it is IC, then let me ask you..have you ever heard of a government statement? That certainly wasn't one.

Finally, this is NS, not RL. Whilst Marxism many not work in real life, it can here, all we like. My nation is in perfect shape, according to the game, and I'm totally socialist. As is true of many others. Here on NS, it does work, so you might want to try to use something besides "SEE! THE SOVIET UNION FELL! IT DOESN'T WORK!" to fight Marxism.
Iuthia
16-10-2004, 03:50
"Laws to suppress tend to strengthen what they would prohibit."

Quote taken from the Iuthian Diplomatic Corps Coda
Arturistania
16-10-2004, 04:08
---Press Release From the Department of External Affairs---

The Democratic Republic of Arturistania is deeply concerned by the crackdown on political freedoms and civil liberties by the ITD. The government of the Democratic Republic of Arturistania condemns the ITD for declaring communists as enemies of the state and urges that it immediately halt its arrests of communists immediately. The Democratic Republic of Arturistania also strongly urges the ITD to immediately release all political prisoners, stop and condemn the practice of torture, and halt all further executions of people currently in custody.

The Democratic Republic of Arturistania will grant asylum to people fleeing government persecution in the ITD, provided they are not involved in planning, supporting, or carrying out terrorist activities against the ITD government. It is the belief of the government of the Democratic Republic of Arturistania that all people should be free to express their political beliefs as long as they do not harbour hate, intolerance, or the promotion of violence.

The Democratic Republic of Arturistania supports the initiative of the Redavic Union to create an international board of inquiry to investigate the role of the ITD's military during these political witchhunts. The government calls upon the world to condemn this blatant assault on the civil and political rights of the people of the ITD and calls for international support for this investigation.

---End of Press Release---
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 04:15
Also I would like other nations to join into the coalition to find out what ITD is hiding from the international community. This investigation will go alot smoother if multiple nations are involved. Also the information produced from this can be more reliable and credible if more join in.

You have no reason to suspect that my nation is "hiding something" the fact that you would even suggest such a thing is ridiculous. I can only assume that you wish to ravage our women and destroy our fair empire.



ooc: A baseless assumption is not a valid reason to invade or form a coalition. While all nations hide things, it is not your right to know what a nation hides.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 04:21
No citizens will be allowed to flee the empire, as the empire has been on total lockdown for some time now.
Transnapastain
16-10-2004, 04:24
Official Statement from General Jonathan Davis, Head of the Office of Internal Security and Acting-Executer of Transnapastain.

“While I can not speak, officially, for the rest of the Directorate, We, Transnapastain, do hereby stand by our long time friends in Intenerate Tree Dweller. We applaud the efforts of the Emperor. Should you need any assistance, please, feel free to call upon us.”
Iuthia
16-10-2004, 04:25
Also I would like other nations to join into the coalition to find out what ITD is hiding from the international community. This investigation will go alot smoother if multiple nations are involved. Also the information produced from this can be more reliable and credible if more join in.

Well, in order for you to investigate this nation you would need to either:

a) Officially ask politely to investigate why they have done this, however it needs to be said that the very action of askign for an investigation when they have already volunteered the reason would suggest that you think they are lying.

b) Officially demand an investigation in their nation, however this would require leverage which I personally doubt you have at the moment. They don't respect you and as such you would probably be laughed at.

c) Spy on them in order to get the results. This would probably be the more productive option so far... but the results of your spy being caught (more likely if you don't have any links to the nation or information about them) would result in a international incident, one which could, depending on the severity, result in war and loss of face in the international community.

d) Declare war on them and find out the information your self. This option is the stupidest of the options and would probably result in your nation being pasted for being so foolish and more importantly result in your nation losing face and earning a bad reputation.


Given these options I would suggest that you assume they are probably doing it because they just don't like commies... given some of the recent idiotic actions I've seen I can't entirely blame them but with all respect I don't think the actions of one nation calling itself communist can reflect on communism everywhere.

I would condemn Itinerate Tree Dweller for their actions, but it's not really any of my concern what they do to communists in their nation. We don't really trade with them and we are probably not interested in doing so.
Borman Empire
16-10-2004, 04:42
OOC: Just wondering if thats an OOC comment, and if so, why it wasn't tagged as such.

If it is IC, then let me ask you..have you ever heard of a government statement? That certainly wasn't one.

Finally, this is NS, not RL. Whilst Marxism many not work in real life, it can here, all we like. My nation is in perfect shape, according to the game, and I'm totally socialist. As is true of many others. Here on NS, it does work, so you might want to try to use something besides "SEE! THE SOVIET UNION FELL! IT DOESN'T WORK!" to fight Marxism.


OOC: IC. I accept many nations as communist, and working. Althouhg in real life it wont work and its a stretch to believe, but I do. Even if it does nothing can stop my govt. from saying what it wants about it, whether (sp?) it be the ruth or propoganda.
The Redavic Union
16-10-2004, 05:15
No citizens will be allowed to flee the empire, as the empire has been on total lockdown for some time now.

This information greatly outrages us, although we are a strick nation along our borders and only citizens with permission are aloud to leave, To lock-up your nation and then commit an international crime of genocide against these people who support communism just because "you dont like them" "they blow stuff up". Who knows what else goes on inside your borders.


----------RNI----------

Redavic National Inquire

Today in other news, Emperor Viplear has issued an offical notice to the First, Third and Thirteen Imperium Legions. Aswell as making a public annoucement nationally about recent actions that have taken place inside Itinerate Tree Dweller. When Secretary of Defense, Donny Sonju, was asked about the current location of the three legions, he responded with, "The Empire is about three days away from a state of emergany, I am not authorized to speak of any legion forces aswell as Imperium State Guard Legions"

Aswell as the legions being mobalized to secret locations with in the nation, Quatic and Rediva ISG Legions were mobilized and sent abroad. A total of three Orlan Amphibous craft left the port at Vasudeva aswell as twelve Vogor Wartime amphibous crafts left from the port at Govidia. Although their destination is unknown it looks to be a friendly one due to the light amount of escorts that left with the fleets. A combined number of seven escorts left from the port at Govidia. The seven escort ships were two kuzent carriers, three Koni Frigates, and two Kashin Destroyers.

In Southern Vic, the annual parade to honor the great General Vic, the greatest military commander yet in the Imperium, ended with a violent explosion in the crowded downtown streets of Samana. No word yet on who is responsible or who is at fault. These actions are suspect to be terrorist but it is still unknown at this moment. The Kamala First Urban Cohort was dispatched from the Armored city to Samana to keep the peace and will be excercising marshall law authorized by the Emperor himself.

Bill Cosh wins the multi-million dollar lottery for the fifth time in arow, no one knows where he money is going....
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 05:22
The Empire of ITD condemns those who caused the explosion in TRU, but must insist that ITD is allowed to do what ever it wants within its own borders and will respond with any hostile action with full and brutal force.

(ooc: We are a post modern tech nation)
Iuthia
16-10-2004, 05:41
OOC: Oh how I love it when someone takes option D, it makes for much more interesting politics.

Secret In Character: Given the latest news coming from the media in The Redavic Union as well as satellite intelligence reports from the few satellites which passed over the nation once a day from their polar orbits, tidbits of information were streaming in about the nations latest mobilisations which were becoming quite sizable.

The Iuthian military command knew that it would be almost impossible to hide a mobilisation of a force large enough to threaten invasion of another nation... afterall, while it isn't easy to track the movements of individuals it is much easy to notice significant naval movements, convoys and large troop concentrations. Not only that but their media would also be conveying bits of information to further point to the simple truth that this nation was preparing forces.

Even if they couldn't be sure it would be a simple matter to track naval movements and work out their likely heading. An invasion would require a serious advantage in order to succeed due to the sheer scales of the logistical problems at hand. The nation would need to have supplies for their forces and the forces themselves would have to land... in order to land large numbers of troops they would need deep water ports; amphibious assaults were all very well but they were limited in their size and cability... without ports any sizable force deployed in that manner wouldn't be able to have enough supplies brought to them.

Due to the number of vessels required to carry those troops, escort the ships and not to mention supply those ships would be easy to track. One simply couldn't surpise another nation in these days of modern technology, unless they were physically next to them, even then it would take effort.

As such the Iuthian Satellite network made changes in orbits in order to have a greater number of eyes in the sky to watch the affair incase of foul play.
Transnapastain
16-10-2004, 06:18
Valhalla Command Center
Transnapastain

“So, basically, that’s where we stand, sir.” Reported Colonel Fires, who was currently on assignment in Nypolina. Long gone where the days of audio-only transmissions in Transnapastain. There where still some radio and satellite radios use din the field, on the squad level around, but the military used Satellite video communication to send signals and reports. The colonel’s face appeared on a 17” plasma monitor inside the comms center.

“I see, well, hopefully, the conference will get underway soon, and we can get you back here.” Replied General Davis.

“Yes sir, Colonel Fires, signing off” he said, saluted, and the transmission cut off.

The General stood and walked into the main chamber, built far below ground, below miles of rock, under the Antarnas Mountains, was the main command center of the Transnapastani Military. The main command center was a large circular room, with a large map of the nation, its cities, and military bases, marked on the map on one curved wall, the map was, in truth, a screen, and could be changed to display a the map of anything the archive possessed, or any satellite imagoes being received, or it could be divide into many, multiple images. Around the room were rings of computer monitors, technicians, Intelligence Analysts and other various intelligence services personal manning them. These people we’re in charge of assuring the nation it had advance warning of an impending attack. In the center of it all said a holoprojector, it displayed a globe, easily meters tall, with various red lines encircling it, and tiny blue dots traversing the lines, each with a name displayed next to it. Coming from each blue dot was a blue cone, descending towards the earth. This displayed the various Transnapastani Spy Satellites in orbit, their vectors, names, and operating windows.

“General?” said a young Captain, standing at attention in front of Davis

“Yes, Captain?” replied Davis

“Sir, we’ve run today’s list of received news reports through the computers, having them search for any mention for us, or allies. We’ve received a news report from the nation of The Redavic Union concerning ITD. Apparently, ITD has expelled Communists…and declared the spreading of Marxist or Communist messages to be a crime against the state, this nation, it seems, disagrees with the way ITD chooses to manage its citizens, and its upset at the expulsion, arrest, and execution of some Communist citizens within the ITD Imperial Bounders.-“

“Captain, is this coming to a point sometime soon?” asked Davis

“Ah, yes sir, my apologies. After having received this dispatch, SatRec re-allocated some eyes to watch this nation, and we’ve picked up what we believe to be troops marshalling…and, we’re positive we’re picked up combat vessels exiting port, destination unknown, but we’re watching.” Concluded the Captain

“I see, well, I think we’ve already made a statement of support, and we really cant afford to commit any military undertakings at the moment, lest the Senate gripe about the OIS abusing its emergency powers again, so, just keep an eye on it, pass it along to Kaukolastan, Nailiak, Nova Hope and Armed Lumberjacks, and alert them of our status on the issue.” Said Davis thoughtfuly

“Yes, sir, right away, sir.” Replied the Captain, he saluted, spun on his heals and departed to carry out his assignment.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 06:22
Secret IC: Earlier this morning the Emperor called off all shore leave for possible deployment. All Infantry units are to report to their assigned bases for briefings and possible arming.
Jennivier
16-10-2004, 06:47
------Relay to all Nations of Concern in ITD Situation-----

From: The head of the Jennivierian Government, President William.
Date: The 16th of October, 2004 (assumeing time is present)

It is urged that all nations acknowledge that ITD is sovereign state. Knowing this, ITD is 100% permitted to carry on with its actions. ITD's actions by no means include any crimes against hummanity, to be included to but not limited to genocide. ITD's acts by no means impede on other soveirgn states in its general location.

As an organized state ITD reserves the right to carryout its actions so long as they do not carry over to the above crimes. Such crimes would merrit action by the international community, including Jennivier. However, at this time, ITD is simply carrying out legal action against a supposed rebel group in its nation. This IS a fully credible act.

Jennivier does stress one concern. We wish that ITD would please set and/or write a guideline to use in this situation. The senseless act of arresting invididuals based on personal opinion cannot be allowed. An organized form for these arrests must be created and followed to the best possible extint.

Currently, any action taken against ITD, without prior knowledge of the aboves crimes against hummanity, will merrit action on the behalf of Jennivier and its allies. We are fully against war and will not nations to "throw their guns at each other" over he says she says nonsense.

-----End of Transmission-----
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 08:10
Marxism is not a race, but an ideology. An ideology can be supressed by a nation.
Jennivier
16-10-2004, 14:46
The clause would make all forms of Marxism and communism crimes against the state, punishable by torture and death.

OOC: Let's not get simple. I was referring to this.
Arturistania
16-10-2004, 14:56
Secret IC:

"Prime Minister, I need to show you something now." The Director of Communications for the Prime Minister's Office stated as Andrew Lawrence walked out of parliament which had just ended for lunch.

"I have a meeting with the Minister of External Affairs in five minutes, is it urgent?" The Prime Minister replied as he made his quickly towards the stairs to the parliamentary cafeteria.

"It's the newspapers out of the Redavic Union sir, the Redavic National Inquire has reported large scale troop movements and activation of several army units." The Director of Communications said, slightly out of breath as he tried to keep up with the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister turned around and grabbed the paper his communications director had. He scanned it quickly, the look on his face turned from concern to anger. "Dammit this is going to seriously compromise any attempt for a peaceful negociations." The Prime Minister exclaimed. "John come with me, fortunately I am meeting with the Minister of External Affairs right now, we need to stop this before it escalates the problem." The Prime Minister stated.

---Communique From the Department of External Affairs---

To: The Leadership of the Redavic Union

The Democratic Republic of Arturistania is deeply troubled by newspaper reports coming from the Redavic Union this morning. It is the desire of the government to keep the pressure on the ITD to end political oppression, torture, and executions, but the Democratic Republic of Arturistania does not support the threat or use of force in order to achieve these ends. In order to prevent an escalation which could jeopardize any attempts for a peaceful end to the issue, the Democratic Republic of Arturistania urges the Leadership of the Redavic Union to cease its military build up and return to a strategy of diplomacy. If the Redavic Union continues to prepare for war, the Democratic Republic of Arturistania will withdraw its support for an international inquiry and will publicly condemn the use of force. For the sake of the civilians being oppressed within the ITD and in order to preserve the lives of all civilians which could be in jeopardy if war occurs, the government urges that the Redavic Union halt their plans to ready an invasion force.

---End of Communique---
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 18:13
The clause has changed somewhat, marxists will now be sent to labor camps and reeducation camps until they are able to function normally under our society.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
16-10-2004, 22:36
Secret IC: Satellite photography has picked up moderate troop and naval movement in the nation of TRU. Because of this increase in military movement, and the hostile threats of the nation of TRU, ITD defensive alerts are being raised to Defcon 2. Shores are being patrolled and citizens are being orderd to their designated bomb shelters.
Alexias
16-10-2004, 23:30
His emperorship,Alexander the I,the enlightened one, of the Alexian Empire,agrees that communism does not work and is counterproductive,but strongly condems you for your violence towards relativly harmless fools.Why arrest those who have done nothing?Why not just persucute the perpatrators of the crimes,and leave the rest to live in peace?Live and let live my man.Shamefull that you would kill those poor idiots.
Doomingsland
17-10-2004, 00:03
Official Imperial Statement-

We will fully back ITD if hostilities break out.
Borman Empire
17-10-2004, 04:20
We will also assist ITD.
Alexias
17-10-2004, 12:45
The Alexian Empire cannot Allow hostilities against IDT for it's choice in dealing with internal affairs.
Jennivier
17-10-2004, 15:54
The Alexian Empire cannot Allow hostilities against IDT for it's choice in dealing with internal affairs.
OOC: That's quite a flip than. Let's stick to our guns for this one.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
17-10-2004, 17:23
"Our armed forces are prepared for any assault that the foreign hordes can muster." - Emperor Erik Kersk

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Sevaris
17-10-2004, 17:23
We do hope this conflict may be resolved in a civilized and gentlemanly manner.

Kaiser Alec Mannerheim
Itinerate Tree Dweller
17-10-2004, 17:32
Official ITD Bulletin

As of 6 pm yesterday evening 60,000 marxists and communist sympathizers have been arrested and sent into the reeducation camps. There have been numerous instances of resistance, but they were put down though the use of crowd control weapons and the use of capsaicin, the active ingredient in pepper spray.
Borman Empire
18-10-2004, 00:01
Bump
Gnomish Republics
18-10-2004, 00:47
"We can not allow blatant ideological supression! This Commonwealth allows its citizens to think what they will and elect me, the Prime Minister, and you, the Parliament, accordingly. The negation of freedom of thought can not be tolerated! We must help the oppressed thinkers! We must not allow the fate of Socrates to be repeated!"
Prime Minister Tursho wiped the sweat from his face while waiting for the ovation to stop, then continued.
"This bill will allow us to use whatever means necessary to terminate this monstrous act! We will free the oppresed Itinerant Tree Dwellers from the iron fist of this new Hitler! May freedom be eternal!"
Tursho bowed to the wild crowd of listeners, smiling. This would be a perfect chance to prove the Commonwealth's power to its citizens.
The Itinerate Tree Dweller Bill, which allowed any measures necessary to help the intellectually oppresed peoples of that country, passed 457-43. It was immediately put into action.

Message to the Dictator of the Itinerate Tree Dweller Nation:
We the government of the Commonwealth of Gnomish Republics request that you send the Marxists to us.
Alexias
18-10-2004, 00:51
The Emperial Goverment feels that all those who have threatned violence against ITD are insane and unfit to rule.

Even Stalin and Hitler didn't jump the gun like that.
Ratheia
18-10-2004, 00:54
OOC: I wuv communism.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
18-10-2004, 01:00
Message to the Dictator of the Itinerate Tree Dweller Nation:
We the government of the Commonwealth of Gnomish Republics request that you send the Marxists to us.

[Official Response]
This is an empire. The answer is no.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
18-10-2004, 01:24
bump
Borman Empire
18-10-2004, 02:22
OOC: Aren't you that dude who flew in super secret helicopters to Doomingsland and drop nukes the sixe of fists?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
18-10-2004, 02:26
OOC: Aren't you that dude who flew in super secret helicopters to Doomingsland and drop nukes the sixe of fists?
ooc: no, i dont know what you are talking about.
Borman Empire
18-10-2004, 02:30
OOC: I mean the Gnomish dude.
Socialist Austria
18-10-2004, 02:36
We agree that Marxism is a crime. The world could use some more leaders like those of Itinerate Tree Dweller. :)
Borman Empire
18-10-2004, 02:55
true
The Redavic Union
18-10-2004, 03:36
(OOC:sorry i havnt responded...i have been very busy but now i will leave a strong post)

----------RNI----------

Redavic National Inquire


In international news, the Emperor has sent a letter to every media station in the Imperium aswell as Imperium States. Due to legal reasons we are not aloud to publish this international, but we are aloud to publish bits and peices of it. The Emperor seems very uneasy with the situation in ITD aswell as her calling upon her allies to aid her if the stand off turns hot. He made note that the forces that were sent out of the country will be returning with in the next week(RL 2 days). In his conclusion he made a statement that has shocked the nation. The Emperor has announced his failing health and has yet to announce the heir to the throne. Of his three sons he had announced a couple of years ago that his first born was not fit to rule and since that speech at Union Hall in Govida, his son Able has disappeared all together.

The Marhsall Law esbalished by the Samana First Urban Cohort that was set in Kamala just a week ago has yet to weaken. So far hundreds if not thousands have been killed for not obeying the strick code. It has also been said that all night long military trucks are seen leaving and entering the city. No word yet on what exactly is going on inside of the city.

Bill Cosh has surfaced again at the port of Govida. He held a small press confernce where the amphibous crafts had left just a week ago. He has announced that he has donated 5 million of his total 20 billion Rhein(=10 billion USD) winnings to Christ Church Latter Day Saints. David Curesh who is the President of the church never returned our phone call on what the money is going to be spent on. And yet again, Bill Cosh won anouther Multi-billion Rhein lottery. IGAS has opened an offical investigation on him and has declared it illegal for any person in the Cosh family to gamble until the investigation has come to a close. Bill Coshes total winning are 23 Billion Rhein.

And unfortantly more explosions rung out agian today. This time Jewish temple was completely destroyed aswell as just about everything else i na one mile radius. A crater 10 feet deep was left in the place of the Jewish Temple. Marshall Law has now decended over the city of West Plano. The seventh Legionary Cohort was sent to West Plano to keep the peace. The Seventh Legionary Cohort is one of seven Cohorts in the Imperium. The fith, sixth, and seventh are the only Legionary Cohort and they are all based in Plano. As of early this morning, all three were NOT in the city and only one was locatable.

*****Update*****

We have gotten report on the military trucks that have been moving into Kamala. These trucks were taking a chemical weapon into the city know as Hydrogen Cyanide (AC) Blood Agent. Once in usepeople exposed to a small amount of cyanide by breathing it are prone to, Rapid breathing, Restlessness, Dizziness, Weakness, Headache, Nausea and vomiting, Rapid heart rate. Exposure to a large amount of cyanide by any route may cause Convulsions. Low blood pressure, Slow heart rate, Loss of consciousness, Lung injury, Respiratory failure leading to death. A total of 200 tons of it was bough from Communist Lousiana. Anouther purchase of------

-TRANSMITION TERMINATED BY ADMINISTATOR-
Alexias
18-10-2004, 21:43
Hey IDT,would it be possible to exchange embassies with you?
Itinerate Tree Dweller
18-10-2004, 22:42
Hey IDT,would it be possible to exchange embassies with you?

ITD, and yes.
Alexias
19-10-2004, 00:46
ITD, and yes.

Sorry.ITD.Have to remember the order of the Name........

Anyhow.Thanks.

Umm,k,wait here....


K,what the deal would be would be as with real embassies.Ambassadors get diplomatic immuinity(within reason)
the embassy grounds are officiall the property of the nation it represents their laws apply their ect. they can do what they want within the grounds within reason,if either finds something unreasonable(like,say,someone moving spy equipement or massivly powefull weapons into their embassy) we will discuss it and come to an agreement ect.

THis applies to both of us.

Agreed?
Borman Empire
19-10-2004, 01:08
OOC: Can I untag, or are you plannig something radical?
The Redavic Union
20-10-2004, 02:13
(ooc:RP rules say that you,ITD, must fight on my level tech in an engagement.)

----------RNI----------

Redavic National Inquire

In regional news today there was quite a scence out at the port in Govidia. When the fleet of ships that left last week were scdueled to return nothing showed up. About an hour after the ships were sposed to arrive an old corvette used in the civil war in Reformed Texas showed up and ordered everyone to leave the port ASAP or leathal force would be used. The order was then repeated a second time with a warning shot fired into the water. A few scampered off but most stayed. Then the ship open fired and kills 17 and injuring 29 people.

http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/ships/corvette/wetaskiw.jpg

The Emperor then made a statement after the crime against the Imperium civilians stating that it was not an Imperium Naval Vessel. That all vessels used in the war had been sold or scrapped. He then gave an annoucement of war against ITD. With the annoucement that the 5th and 6th Legionary Cohorts are now inroute to ITD with a massaive armada of naval vessels. The port and amount of ships being sent was kept secret. The 1st,3rd, and 13th Legions were also announced to be departing with in the coming night fall to ITD aswell. Each legion consist of 10,000 troops and 400 tanks, 200 artiliery peices, and 100 AJ. An AJ or an Assualt Jeep is just like a hummvee. It is lighter, fast, and more fuel effecient. Although it lacks in armor, they are recyclable in any condition. They can be equiped with a rocket launcher, a moble sam pack(10 missiles), automatic machine guns(4), AA guns, mine layer, mine sweeper, or a moblie medical station.

http://sa.nextwish.org/Unsorted/War%20Photos/British%20Troops.jpg

http://www.air-and-space.com/20031018%20Miramar/3%2024%20Troops%20l.jpg

the Urban Cohorts consist of 400 tanks, 300 artiliery peices, and 200 AJ. Aswell at 12,000 troops. Troops in the Urban Cohorts are specially trained for urban combat. It is said that 1st, 3rd, 13th legions will be making the first beachhead assault.

The Second Naval Fleet will be assisting in all aspects of the invasion and will be supported by the Fitfh Naval Fleet in maintaining the momentum in the war against ITD.

http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/Articles03/images03/3seabasing01.jpg

Now the emperor has stated that ITD if they wish can escape the invasion if they wish so by agreeing to the following terms

a.withdrawl all laws against communism/marxism for one year and a day(NS)
b.force out all communism/marxism supporters, in a nonviolent way of the Imperium approval, to nations that will agree to take them in.
c.allowing Imperium forces to assist in anti-terrorist measures.
d.allowing a Imperium Senate be established in ITD for one year and a day(NS) to make sure that your peoples human rights are not being violated.

The Emperor beleives that these terms are by all means fair.

Today in the capital city of Plano, several freight truck bombs went off, luckly only 16 people were kills and anouther 56 were injured. Marshall law will not take over the capital, but rather Citizens Legionary Urban Cohort Militia number One will take command of the defense. The Emperor has demanded all Govenors to recruit enough male civilians to create a single Legionary Urban Cohort Militia for the defense of each city. Who ever joins and serves out their term will be granted citizenship in the Imperium.

All of us here at RNI wish our troops goddspeed and a safe return. They will be in our prayers for full victory to bring down the opressive tyrants of the Tree Dwellers and free their people.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
20-10-2004, 03:08
Officer: "Admiral, the fleets are ready."

Fleet Admiral "Excellent. Send word that our naval vessels are ready to begin engagement upon being attacked."

Officer: "Yes, understood."

To TRU:

We have 12 divisions prepared for the attack, each division has 18 thousand soldiers and are armed with OICW and .45 caliber pistols.

Our airforce has been placed on alert as well.

We are dispatching a good portion of our navy to defend our shores.
2,000 UH-60 - 4 crew
1,000 CH-46 - 4 crew
12 Nimitz (50 F-14Ds. 15 F/A 18 Hornets. 20 Rafale M) - 5680 crew
23 Iowa Class - 486 crew
11 Curtis Fabus Class Battleships (BB-04A) (Modified model) - 4828 crew
30 Kluxer Klass Kruisers (3K-04) - 1336 crew
33 Spruance Class - 382 crew
20 Arizona BBG Class Battleships - 1906 crew
30 Nathan Bedford Forrest Class Pocket-Battleships (NBF-04) - 1462 crew
2 Guillean Class Battleships (IDF Super Battleship) - 7191 crew
150 Oliver Hazard Perry just renamed - 300 crew
300 Chicago Class Frigates (IDF Built Ship) - 217 crew
480 Arleigh Burke - 380 crew
30 AEGIS Flight IIA Class - 398 crew
30 Cherokee class missile cruiser - 400 crew
30 Imperator Class - 400 crew
30 Ticonderoga Class 400
30 Ticonderoga II Class - 390 crew
3 Yorktown Carriers - 5800 crew
50 Kirov CGN - 742 crew
100 Farragut DDG - 400 crew
75 Wasp II class LHD - 3180 crew
20 Type 22 Broadsword Class - 237 crew
20 Type 23 Duke Class - 169 crew
50 Invincible Class - 1090 crew
50 Leahy Class - 455 crew
30 Superior III Class Guided Missile Destroyers - 440 crew
100 supply ships - 150 crew

ooc: I expect this to be a short engagement :-)
Alexias
20-10-2004, 03:08
(ooc:RP rules say that you,ITD, must fight on my level tech in an engagement.)

----------RNI----------

Redavic National Inquire

In regional news today there was quite a scence out at the port in Govidia. When the fleet of ships that left last week were scdueled to return nothing showed up. About an hour after the ships were sposed to arrive an old corvette used in the civil war in Reformed Texas showed up and ordered everyone to leave the port ASAP or leathal force would be used. The order was then repeated a second time with a warning shot fired into the water. A few scampered off but most stayed. Then the ship open fired and kills 17 and injuring 29 people.

http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/ships/corvette/wetaskiw.jpg

The Emperor then made a statement after the crime against the Imperium civilians stating that it was not an Imperium Naval Vessel. That all vessels used in the war had been sold or scrapped. He then gave an annoucement of war against ITD. With the annoucement that the 5th and 6th Legionary Cohorts are now inroute to ITD with a massaive armada of naval vessels. The port and amount of ships being sent was kept secret. The 1st,3rd, and 13th Legions were also announced to be departing with in the coming night fall to ITD aswell. Each legion consist of 10,000 troops and 400 tanks, 200 artiliery peices, and 100 AJ. An AJ or an Assualt Jeep is just like a hummvee. It is lighter, fast, and more fuel effecient. Although it lacks in armor, they are recyclable in any condition. They can be equiped with a rocket launcher, a moble sam pack(10 missiles), automatic machine guns(4), AA guns, mine layer, mine sweeper, or a moblie medical station.

http://sa.nextwish.org/Unsorted/War%20Photos/British%20Troops.jpg

http://www.air-and-space.com/20031018%20Miramar/3%2024%20Troops%20l.jpg

the Urban Cohorts consist of 400 tanks, 300 artiliery peices, and 200 AJ. Aswell at 12,000 troops. Troops in the Urban Cohorts are specially trained for urban combat. It is said that 1st, 3rd, 13th legions will be making the first beachhead assault.

The Second Naval Fleet will be assisting in all aspects of the invasion and will be supported by the Fitfh Naval Fleet in maintaining the momentum in the war against ITD.

http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/Articles03/images03/3seabasing01.jpg

Now the emperor has stated that ITD if they wish can escape the invasion if they wish so by agreeing to the following terms

a.withdrawl all laws against communism/marxism for one year and a day(NS)
b.force out all communism/marxism supporters, in a nonviolent way of the Imperium approval, to nations that will agree to take them in.
c.allowing Imperium forces to assist in anti-terrorist measures.
d.allowing a Imperium Senate be established in ITD for one year and a day(NS) to make sure that your peoples human rights are not being violated.

The Emperor beleives that these terms are by all means fair.

Today in the capital city of Plano, several freight truck bombs went off, luckly only 16 people were kills and anouther 56 were injured. Marshall law will not take over the capital, but rather Citizens Legionary Urban Cohort Militia number One will take command of the defense. The Emperor has demanded all Govenors to recruit enough male civilians to create a single Legionary Urban Cohort Militia for the defense of each city. Who ever joins and serves out their term will be granted citizenship in the Imperium.

All of us here at RNI wish our troops goddspeed and a safe return. They will be in our prayers for full victory to bring down the opressive tyrants of the Tree Dwellers and free their people.


The Alexian Empire is willing to contribute whatever we can militarily too ward of this unwarranted invasion.

Just ask away.

The Emperial Goverment condemns the Redavic Union for its unwarranted and nonsensical meddling in the internal affairs of ITD.
Borman Empire
20-10-2004, 03:11
If they go through with their invasion we shall help, ITD that is.
Iuthia
20-10-2004, 03:22
OOC: Alexias and Redavic can you please edit those posts so that the pictures are not in them? Or at least remove the huge ones because they make the page lag even for my T1 connection and they break the page in such a way that makes the post hard to read.

Redavic, you've posted some good stuff until now, but those pictures don't look good and we understand what you are doing without them.

Alexias, you don't really need to quote him anyways, so could you either remove the quote or just the pictures if you can.

IC:

Iuthia condemns this act of aggression against a soveriegn nation.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
20-10-2004, 03:23
MadCrow1: posted the forces I intend to use. they are all legit modern tech.
Buyse13: k
MadCrow1: and all are bought and paid for.
MadCrow1: 2,000 UH-60 - 4 crew
1,000 CH-46 - 4 crew
12 Nimitz (50 F-14Ds. 15 F/A 18 Hornets. 20 Rafale M) - 5680 crew
23 Iowa Class - 486 crew
11 Curtis Fabus Class Battleships (BB-04A) (Modified model) - 4828 crew
30 Kluxer Klass Kruisers (3K-04) - 1336 crew
33 Spruance Class - 382 crew
20 Arizona BBG Class Battleships - 1906 crew
30 Nathan Bedford Forrest Class Pocket-Battleships (NBF-04) - 1462 crew
2 Guillean Class Battleships (IDF Super Battleship) - 7191 crew
150 Oliver Hazard Perry just renamed - 300 crew
300 Chicago Class Frigates (IDF Built Ship) - 217 crew
480 Arleigh Burke - 380 crew
30 AEGIS Flight IIA Class - 398 crew
30 Cherokee class missile cruiser - 400 crew
30 Imperator Class - 400 crew
30 Ticonderoga Class 400
30 Ticonderoga II Class - 390 crew
3 Yorktown Carriers - 5800 crew
50 Kirov CGN - 742 crew
100 Farragut DDG - 400 crew
75 Wasp II class LHD - 3180 crew
20 Type 22 Broadsword Class - 237 crew
20 Type 23 Duke Class - 169 crew
50 Invincible Class - 1090 crew
50 Leahy Class - 455 crew
30 Superior III Class Guided Missile Destroyers - 440 crew
100 supply ships - 150
Buyse13: k
MadCrow1: and 12 infantry divisions of 18 thousand each
Buyse13: k
Buyse13: so you didnt agree to my terms
MadCrow1: all are modern tech
Buyse13: k
Buyse13: im talking about the escaping the engagement terms
MadCrow1: i c
MadCrow1: no, they are unacceptable
Buyse13: what is acceptable to you
MadCrow1: no abandon your war mongering
MadCrow1: and sign a non aggression treaty
Buyse13: only if u allow the communist and marxist to leave your nation
Buyse13: i will take them all in
MadCrow1: I allow you to take 15 thousand marxists
Buyse13: do you want the terrorist acts to stop?
MadCrow1: There hasnt been such an act for nearly 6 months
Buyse13: if you want them to completly cease from the communist and marxist then send them to me...i will send the ships to get them...and you obviously dont want them around if you have imposed laws against them
MadCrow1: ok
MadCrow1: and then you shall abandon your war?
Buyse13: yes
MadCrow1: ok
Buyse13: i will copy this convo and replace our sn with our national tags
Buyse13: to prove we went through peace talks



We have reached a peace treaty.

- ITD shall allow 15 thousand marxist refugees to flee to TRU.
- TRU shall abandon its war with ITD.
- ITD and TRU shall sign a non-aggression treaty.
Borman Empire
20-10-2004, 03:32
ok
The Redavic Union
20-10-2004, 03:32
From:Emperor Viplear
To:The World

"Peace talks have begun and ended quickly with ITD. We have come upon an agreement. Below is a copy of the peace talks held between I and the Emperor of ITD. Our terms are as follow. He will send all marxist and communist supporters to my ships to send back to my nation. I will be taking in aproximatly 15 thousand women and children who are Communist/Marxist supporters.

RU(9:09:56 PM): im talking about the escaping the engagement terms
ITD (9:10:02 PM): i c
ITD (9:10:22 PM): no, they are unacceptable
RU (9:11:22 PM): what is acceptable to you
ITD (9:11:37 PM): no abandon your war mongering
ITD (9:11:50 PM): and sign a non aggression treaty
RU (9:12:13 PM): only if u allow the communist and marxist to leave your nation
RU (9:12:15 PM): i will take them all in
ITD (9:12:17 PM): I allow you to take 15 thousand marxists
RU (9:12:30 PM): do you want the terrorist acts to stop?
ITD (9:12:49 PM): There hasnt been such an act for nearly 6 months
RU(9:13:42 PM): if you want them to completly cease from the communist and marxist then send them to me...i will send the ships to get them...and you obviously dont want them around if you have imposed laws against them
RU (9:13:59 PM): ok
ITD (9:14:10 PM): and then you shall abandon your war?
RU(9:14:15 PM): yes
ITD (9:14:21 PM): ok

The war ships are now being withdrawlen and will re-supply and depart again to ITD. You will be notified of when the ships will be arriving.