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UCSNE Powered Battle Armor (2020+)

New Empire
11-10-2004, 11:48
OOC: Before I go on, these are not mechs. I will not make mechs. Powered Battle Armor is something the RL military plans to have by 2025, but considering how much more money I have, this is concieveable for other wealthy 2020 nations.

Also, these are not tank replacements. Never think that. These are more for units such as the Marines, Airbone, and so on, which require heavy firepower, but also light weight and versatility on the field.
IC:
M322 Wolverine Battle Armor
http://img8.exs.cx/img8/2770/battlearmor.png
OOC: Yes, I know it's ugly. But I drew a smiley face on it in the end.

The Wolverine is a midweight battle armor, coming in at around 800 pounds. It's about 8 feet tall without any sensor units extended. The joint layout is conventional, however, the pilots arms are inside the 'torso' of the armor, and gauntlets the user wears relays the information to the armor's arms. The pilots legs also do not extend all the way down into the feet, and again, data is relayed for the movement of the foot. This greatly increases the pilot's survivability in the event the suit triggers a land mine or recieves damage to a limb.

The sensors on the M322 include enhanced optic, IR, and LIDAR on the front and back. the sensors can rotate about as much as the human eye, a bit more, really. There is a retractable sensor head with all these features, as well as a millimetric radar. Sensor data can be recieved on internal screens, or through the TARGETS II system, which projects information into the 'mind's eye'.

Armor consists of heavy ceramic, along with EleRA to defend against RPG fire. The Wolverine can take most small arms fire, but has trouble with small ATGMs or light cannon.

The Wolverine has two human sized hands for picking up virtually any weapon a person can. Usually Wolverine operators choose a heavy machine gun or light cannon. Pictured is a M314 25mm autocannon, which has a dual feed of grenades and shells. There are also two hardpoints behind the shoulders capable of holding ATGMs, a SLID pack, enhanced sensor pods, and so on.

The suit is powered by a small QNFR (Micronuclear reactor), and hafnium fuel. This gives the suit an endurance of up to a week of use. There are auxilliary fuel cells with 2.5 days worth of power should the QNFR fail.

Cost: 150,000 USD (Approx 75,000 NEAC)

M331 Odysseus Heavy Battle Armor
http://img67.exs.cx/img67/6642/Odysseus.png

The Odysseus may be used primarily as an assault weapon by the UCSNE, but it as versatile as it's namesake. The Odysseus has legs like those of a dog's hind legs, and it can actually go quite fast while still negotiating difficult terrain. The arms, while seeming small, are extremely powerful, as are the hands. There are reports of lightly armed Odysseus suits climbing up the walls of urban buildings during the Markov war. The suit uses the master-slave arm concept, meaning the larger, robotic arms are mimicking the arms of the pilots. However, the arms of the pilot are contained in heavily armored gauntlets extending from the torso. The pilot can actually disengage the slave arms and use the human sized hands for manipulating standard sized weapons. The slave arms have larger, more powerful hands to manipulate heavy weapons such as the M44 coilgun pictured. The hardpoints on the shoulders are also reinforced, for mounting heavy weapons. The current configuration is reffered to as the 'sniper', with an enhanced solid state radar and a battery of VT-KEAPER (Variable Target Kinetic Energy Armor Piercing, Extended Range) missiles.

The sensors on the suit include enhanced optic, IR, and LIDAR on the front and back. the sensors can rotate about as much as the human eye, a bit more, really. There is a retractable sensor head with all these features, as well as a millimetric radar. Sensor data can be recieved on internal screens, or through the TARGETS II system, which projects information into the 'mind's eye'.

Armor consists of modified Chobham/DU, along with ceramic composites. EleRA is fitted on most areas of the suit. The armor can resist most light cannon and small arms fire. For use against ATGMs, there are three laser blinders for missile IR/Optic targeting, as well as smokescreens and other defensive devices. Many choose to mount a small COIL for close range defense against the enemy.

The suit is powered by a small QNFR (Micronuclear reactor), and hafnium fuel. This gives the suit an endurance of up to a week of use. There are auxilliary fuel cells with 2.5 days worth of power should the QNFR fail.

Cost: 800,000 USD (Approx 400,000 NEAC)

OOC: More to come...
New Empire
11-10-2004, 14:55
Bump for the BA...
Scandavian States
11-10-2004, 16:30
[Wow, my heavy BA is 440 pounds. If that's medium, I don't know what you want to call heavy. Oh, and nice.]
New Empire
11-10-2004, 19:52
OOC: UCSNE has a wider range of BA than you (Up to 1.5 tons, in which case the pilot is completely contained in the thighs and torso of the suit), classifications are as follows:

Personal: (Basically BDUs, NBC gear and body armor with joints, think BLEEX), up to 200 pounds.
Light: 200-600 pounds
Medium: 600-1000 pounds
Heavy: 1000+ (Heaviest is 3000 pounds, it's for assault work...)
Crossman
11-10-2004, 19:53
Very nice.
New Empire
11-10-2004, 20:08
OOC: Thank you.
Kriegorgrad
11-10-2004, 20:14
Kool, I'd buy some but alot of people will go "OMFG! TAT IS FUTURE TECH OMFG OMFGOMFG!!!111" even though its 2020! Looks good, I hope to see more of these interesting designs.

P.S Did you actually draw that yourself!
Scandavian States
11-10-2004, 20:18
[Well, all of my BA systems are loosely based on BLEEX, so I'm kinda limited in the weight department. SF/Paras use the Mk3 SIBA, which is my 100Kg "light" BA. The infantry in my mechanized units use the Mk4 SIBA, which is the 200Kg heavy BA.]
New Empire
11-10-2004, 22:36
OOC: Yeah Krieg, that is a problem... But usually good RPers can accept it.

And yes, I did draw all of this myself. I only wish my Flash MX trial wouldn't run out.

Stats for my heavy BA almost done, pic might take a bit.
New Empire
12-10-2004, 00:02
OOC: Odysseus is done... Note that while the lineart, coloring, SFX, and such was done by me, the design is based around something I saw from GITS: SAC.
Kriegorgrad
12-10-2004, 21:11
OOC: OK, sod the bad RPers! I love these designs too much to pass up.

IC: Kriegorgrad would like to purchase 500 M322 Wolverine Battle Armor Suits for 750, 000, 00 USD and 300 M331 Odysseus Heavy Battle Armor Suits for 240, 000, 000 USD. These will be put primarily to policing roles but we expect to see them in action on the battle field.

Also, could we purchase production rights by any chance? Thank you.

Yours,

-Kriegor Zan Varr, Emperor of Kriegorgrad, Holder of the first seat of House Krieg, High Master of the Inquisition
New Empire
12-10-2004, 22:10
This order is confirmed, and will be filled over the course of half a year. The production rights are availible for around 1 Billion USD each, provided you do not redistribute the technology outside your borders.
Kriegorgrad
13-10-2004, 00:11
Done, the 2 billion has been wired and we expect the rights shortly. Thank you.

(Lame post, soz, its like 12:11 and its bed time :P)
Apoclania
13-10-2004, 00:32
Very Interesting Indeed...

I shall purchase 1000 of the M322 Wolverine Battle Armour (total price: 150,000,000 USD) and 500 of the M331 Odysseus Heavy Battle Armour (total price: 400,000,000 USD). This comes to a total of 550,000,000 USD.

I await a telegram so the order can be confirmed.
New Empire
13-10-2004, 00:56
Both orders have been accepted, and the Apoclanian order will be fulfilled within about half a (NS) year.
Ilek-Vaad
15-10-2004, 17:08
The Free Republic would like to purchase ten suits of the Odysseus Heavy Armour for evaluation purposes.

Minister of Defence, Ilek-Vaad
Chardonay
15-10-2004, 17:51
I think I'd feel pretty comfortable calling this futuretech simply based on the micronuclear reactor.
New Empire
15-10-2004, 21:51
QNFRs are planned for UAV use by 2015, although the enviro lobby will smack it down... I'd say with some good shielding material, give me five years and a good budget, you could get a QNFR that could fit in an oildrum.
Chardonay
15-10-2004, 22:01
But could you build one for 150 000 dollars? Which is what you're charging for an entire advanced, sophisticate weapons system arguably more difficult to make than a main battle tank?
The Bloody Reaper
15-10-2004, 22:05
those = UGLY
New Empire
15-10-2004, 23:14
Yes, they're ugly. Weapons aren't pretty. If you want to look at shiny grundams or whatever the hell they're called, I dunno.

The cost is a sticking point, yes, but considering the arms and leg tech is already in RL use, most of it is in reactor costs.
Kriegorgrad
15-10-2004, 23:59
those = UGLY

I'd like to see you do better and quite frankly, noone really cares about what you say, so just leave the all powerful '03 nation alone and toddle off if you don't mind, thanks.
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-10-2004, 00:21
Very nice, NE. While its way outside my budget, which is currently being used for the compilation and restoration of Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughn recordings, its still a nice piece of work.
The Bloody Reaper
16-10-2004, 00:28
I would want some of similer model if they were:
SMALLER i.e say 6ft high
New Empire
16-10-2004, 01:08
I frankly don't care what you want... I do have smaller designs, but no images for them at the moment...
Chardonay
18-10-2004, 09:04
HTe leg tech has just been prototyped and you can't move faster than a walk when you use it. This certainly will be possible by the time you suggested... but if my housemates and I stopped paying rent for only 5 years, we could buy one... that's not right, considering it has a bloody nuclear reactor. (we could probably pull it off too... landlord's a coke head...)
New Empire
18-10-2004, 11:23
I'll raise prices, but it's still gonna be cheaper than a tank of my TL.
The Phoenix Milita
18-10-2004, 11:27
nice mechs
New Empire
18-10-2004, 21:17
They are not mechs... Read the first two lines of the post. IMHO, and in the opinions of people more knowledgable of armored warfare, mechs are moronic devices. I'm not even gonna bother giving you the whole spiel, but these are not mechs. The person wears them like a suit, and as such they are much smaller.
Kriegorgrad
18-10-2004, 21:25
Damn right NE, sadly; no matter how cool mechs may look, they will not be seriously considered in warfare until an era that I will not live to see...then again, by that time, the world will have no oil and China will have overtaken America as the worlds superpower and the west will fall...Shame...What were we talking about again?
Chardonay
19-10-2004, 05:52
Mechs are moronic, I agree... but I'm not really sure I see the purpose of powered armor that heavy. It's not going to be useful in urban fighting because it will be too big and heavy to enter houses. It won't be effective scouting because it will be much louder than normal infantry. It won't be good on the battlefield because it's a big enough target that it will attract massed tank and ATGM fire... I'm not sure I see the role, other than crowd control, and even then I'd hate to see what molotovs would do to it...

I worry it will become a bradley... big enough that it attracts tank fire, while small enough that it's not really effective.
Sambizie
19-10-2004, 06:29
The Empire would be honored to secure 1,000 suits of each. We will include a 50 million bonus if said suits could be manufactured and delievered to USPK befor the Emperor's arrival. Payment has been alotted and will wire automatically upon confirmation of this request.

Respectfully,
Emperor M. Uganda

OOC: Good to see you old friend
New Empire
19-10-2004, 11:18
This order has been confirmed, and we hope to get these shipped to you before the emperor arrives.

OOC: I still haven't finished the stats of my urban stuff (Working on some pics for Scandavian States BA), but these are basically designed as assault/defense units for soldiers who don't have access to heavy equipment. Even though the weights seem large, you can fit several in an Osprey, and they can be airdropped easily. Really, the idea is to put a lot of firepower in the hands of the Airborne and Marines without the hassle of a vehicle drop.
Notquiteaplace
19-10-2004, 12:39
OOC: they are ugly.... but then they arent supposed to be pretty, they are supposed to kick backside... and they look up to that job.

I like the idea.

IC: Notquiteaplace would contribute funding to such a project if we could get some designs out of it. We would contribute up to $50bn per year to help with such a project infact. If we could send some of our scientists.

Otherwise what would production rights (but not sale rights) cost us for each design?