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The Italian Social Republic claims the Eastern (Al Bahr al Ahmar, Port Sudan etc.) region in Sudan. We will dispatch military forces to take the region soon. If any nation already has claims of Sudan or in Sudan that we are unaware of, speak up in the next few hours.

Sudan may well be an advantageous colony to control.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: There are a lot of nations who claim Sudan. Off the top of my head, Chellis and Greenmanbry both claim it.

IC: This attempt to subjugate Sudan will not be tolerated. You will not be taking Sudan, unless you want your forces there to be smashed apart. We have defended Sudan once, and we will defend it again.

We have ordered Naval squadrons in Israel, Somalia and Sudan to be ready for action.

OOC: Was that aimed at me?

OOC: Narr, that was aimed at SI. Though the thingy about people claiming it stands.

SI: BTW, if applicable, which earth is this?

OOC: I saw no nations listed in the topics who officially have Sudan

IC: We are not trying to subjagate all of Sudan, we simply are taking the Eastern region as a key port. You can claim the rest of Sudan as yours, but the Eastern region WILL be ours.

Or maybe it will be ours?

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

If you are going to try and take Eastern Sudan, be prepared to be flattened uncerimoniously by anything we have to hand.

Encrypt: 128, COTD (38-234-65)
From: CinC VDV
To: 20, 22 AD

Mobilise immediate for Sudan. Departure locations:

20AD: KN2
22AD: NMA

CinC VDV

End

This is Earth 1. Drum Gods, we will gladly offer you trading priorities and other benefits in the Port of Sudan and other major ports.

20th and 22nd Airborne Divisions have been ordered to mobilise for Sudan. Any ship of Sociale Italiana approaching Sudan will be destroyed by our forces. Do not make this foolish and needless attempt at imperialism.

We have currently authorised the take off of a single pack of 6 G-Wing Fighter Bombers on course for Eastern Sudan. They are going to perform some reconnaissance operations to gather information about what exactly is going on.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Be warned they will be tracked by both ground-based radars and aircraft. Your pilots should avoid attempting to blow the tracking units up.

Communist interference in the world will not be tolerated. Eastern Sudan will be saved from world bolshevism.

You will not be allowed to take Sudan. It will remain free and independent regardless of your desire to see it turned into another Roman empire.

G-Wing aircraft are stealth aircraft. We are only telling you in advance should you by some sort of freak of nature discover them. They are on course to arrive at an undisclosed time. I believe they will be VERY difficult to track.

We are not Bolsheviks.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

I do not refer to you drum gods, you seem to be a good and healthy nation. Dontpissusoff is a Bolshevik and his influence shall not hit East Sudan.

We will help DPUO in this conflict. Any attempt to take Sudan will be met with resistance from me as well.

Yes, we are a good and healthy nation. You have made an accurate observation. Very good.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

My influence is already there, in the form of a group of warships based on the Ras Abu Shangara peninsula. The base has brought wealth to the Sudanese government and the people of Sudan, and we will not allow that wealth which they have to be taken by you, to fund a fascistic war machine.

DG: Stealth just means hard to find, y'know. There are ways and means of finding stealth aircraft.

DPUO:

We realise this and that is why we stated that we will be sending aircraft there so you are not shocked if you do find them. However, we maintain they will be difficult to track. G-Wing aircraft utilise state of the art technology.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Meh, fair enough I guess. It's just we use some stuff to help find stealthy aircraft. Ah well, since you're not doing any shooting/bombing it doesn't matter really anyway.

The aircraft had taken off from Baghdad Imperial Airport and are currently flying out of Israeli airspace heading towards Sudan.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: Current ship inventory in Middle East and Levant Command

1 Hunter BBCN
2 Frunze BBN
2 Soyuz BBN
2 Tempest BCN
1 Repulse BCVN
1 Orel CVN
6 Slava CG
8 Kara CG
4 Udaloy DDG
3 Sovremenniy DDG

6 Sierra-III SSN
8 Akula-III SSN
5 Oscar-II SSGN
6 Juliett-II SSG
4 Kilo SS

10 Berezina AOR
4 Urga Submarine support ships

We, in the Democratic Republic of Karuchea recognize the claims of the Italian Social Republic. As the leaders of the Year-0 alliance and controlling with that a military of over 3.2 million are prepared to send the entire fleet from 8 different nations in the Year-0 in order to help Italy. DPUO: do not make this escalate and just back off.

To put it bluntly, go to hell.

Western Fleet is receiving mobilisation orders, and airlifting of the 1st Airborne Army (4 Airborne Divisions) is commencing. ETA is 23 hours. 20th and 22nd ADs are already within 7 hours of their destinations.

Secure Transmission

We have noticed the brewing situation in Sudan, including the continued imperialist intentions of Drum Gods, which they mask with golden ideals. The Commonwealth sees this as a direct threat to our interests, both in the Middle East and Africa. Therefore, basing and refueling rights will be granted to DPUO forces in Yemen. If needed, the 3rd Battlefleet is currently stationed in Aden, and can provide backup.

Regards,

Carrington West
Minister of Defense

Is this my earth I? It that case Roycelandia owns Sudan since sept 2003.

The entire fleet from Karuchea, Srbija, Des Todes, Des Lebens, Huenia will be sent along with 2 million troops to help secure Sudan with the Italians. Prepare for a battle.

According to the list at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779 no one lays claim on Sudan yet.

So be it.

All units I-LS prepare for action. Maintain 24hr CAPs over formations.
Fire only if Sudanese territory violated or fired upon.

To: Granzian State Dept
From: DPUO Foreign Office

We request that if possible you employ the forces you have in the area, if only to cover our logistics areas.

We warn you, we will not hesitate to destroy any forces attempting to infringe Sudanese sovereignty.

Mobilisation orders have been handed to the Naval Infantry. An amphibious group has been sent from the Western Islands, ETA 6 days maximum.

Posing as forces trying to defend it, you simply want to spread the tyranny of Bolshevism into Sudan. We only want to lay claim to Eastern Sudan, but you wouldn't be happy with most of Sudan, you want all of it.

If we wanted Sudan we would have claimed it long ago. We don't want Sudan, which is why we rented the facility we have there from the Sudanese rather than trying to take the land for it.

We respect them as people and as a nation, and we are happy for them to remain independent, not under the thumb of a fascist like yourself.

We now officially have a presence of sorts in Sudan. Though not outwardly aggressive we warn all nations not to show any aggressive behaviour towards our presence.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

According to the list at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288779 no one lays claim on Sudan yet.

Don't use that thread. It's rarely updated and the owner allows his friends to be on the list.

Drum Gods, we are not going to aggressively move against you. When we take East Sudan, your presence shall be welcomed.

For the umpteenth time, you will not be taking Sudan.

How many times must I say this before you understand it?

We will take Eastern Sudan, does the RSI and our allies have to crush your navy before you will back down? We simply want to make our claims, you are interferring in our business and we are giving you one last chance before we forcefully take East Sudan.

You will back down. Simple. You can either back down with your armed forces intact, or you can back down with them destroyed, but you will back down, because we will not allow Sudan to fall to you.

Oh and by the way: you'll have to get there first.

The situation in Sudan seems doomed to failure at this rate. Sociale Italiana seems to be heading into a war that will lead to the deaths of many, mainly of their own people as well as Sudanese. We believe it is best to put Eastern Sudan in the hands of a responsible nation that will be able to protect the people of Sudan through thick and thin. Those hands should be of the Empire of Drum Gods.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Why can Sudan not remain free? Why must it be conquered by you or they? Why can you not simply leave them be?

We do not want to see the beginning of a neo-cold war. But, we are forced to begin preparations to take East Sudan by military force. With our allies we have the naval presence of 6 nations and 2.5 million troops ready to fight. More of our allies are on the way. We are on our way.

Transmission from Emperor Takenski
"We have noticed the clamor going over the claim of Sudan. To our knowledge this belongs to the nation of Greenmanbry. We ask that you do not intrude on his national sovereinty, failure to do so will result in possible conflict. We have possesions in Sierra-Leone, and Congo Burundi. If you're forces attempt some sort of invasion we will possible stage a counter-attack.

Our intelligence services have also noticed the involvment of the nation of Drum Gods. We have been closely monitorring this nation and have found it a threat to the free nations of the world. We will not hesitate to protect a fellow African Nation in the event of a attack."

Secret IC:
Transmission to Naval High Command of Sierra Leone
"By order of the Emperor the Naval High Command is ordered to dispatch two Class Y Fleets, while maintaining a Class G Fleet on stand-by, to Sudan. You are to be strictly 50 Miles away from Sudans national waters. Once in position await for further orders from the Emperor. Follow standard ROE."

OOC:The fleet should arrive tomorrow morning

For the last time, you will not be taking Sudan. If necessary, we will move as much force as is needed to stop you taking it.

And what will you do with Eastern Sudan? Fortifty the border and launch an invasion? We support DPUO fully on this matter.

Mobilisation Order:A : Peoples Navy: Tenth Fleet
PNV L'Internationale - Aircraft Carrier
PNV Fly the Red Flag - Invincible Class Aircraft Carrier
PNV Unbreakable Union - Invincible Class Aircraft Carrier
PNV Freeborn Republics - Warspite Class BattleCruiser
PNV Peoples Republic - Warspite Class BattleCruiser
PNV Revolutionary - Warspite Class BattleCruiser
PNV Liberator - Type 32 Destroyer
PNV Lonely - Type 32 Destroyer
PNV Comrade - Type 32 Destroyer
PNV Hammer - Type 32 Destroyer
PNV Sickle - Tpye 25 Frigate
PNV Red Star - Type 25 Frigate
PNV Pride of the Working Class - Type 25 Frigate
PNV Motherland - Type 44 Frigate
PNV Bulwark of the People- Type 44 Frigate
PNV Comintern - Type 44 Frigate
PNV International Commune - Type 44 Frigate
PNV Internationalism- Type 44 Frigate
PNV Fascist Killer - Type 44 Frigate
PNV Red Oktober- Type 44 Frigate
PNV Together - Sandown Class Mine Countermeasures
PNV Greeting - Sandown Class Mine Countermeasures[/i]
Task Force: Assist Comrade
Ten Infantry Divisions: 50,000 men
Two Armour Divisions: 10,000 Vehicles

Communique To DPUO
Dear Comrade,
We support you fully on this matter and are commiting troops to the area of the Sudan. We suggest a Head of Staff meeting between ourselves to co-ordinate an efficient defence of the Sudan so that the capitalist dogs do not seize another asset in their goal of globalisationism.

-Internationalism, not Nationalism.

OOC: 2.5million troops?

IC:

Sudan obviously needs protection. We are a nation that has the means to do so as well as provide the best for the people there. They will become rich and happy with our help. Sudan, for all that is good, must be put under our control.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Message to Sociale Italiana
By; MoD/MoFA
This is your last warning. Halt your annexation of the Sudan or we will respond in force and that force shall be merciless against the imperialist fascist warmongering dogs. That is your last warning. Do not take it lightly.

OOC- 2.5 million troops = godmod.

That is to give the condemned man the choice between the rope and the axe. We intend to give him a reprieve.

You have previously stated that you wish to retake your old empire, and yet you expect us to believe that you have no motive bar the sfaety of Sudan in your actions?

I say again that Sudan must remain free.

OOC: 2.5 million. Karuchea said he would be willing to send over 2 million. We are willing to send 300,000. Roughly this makes 2.5 million.

OOC It would still take an extremely long time to move that kind of force.

We have never said we wish to retake our old empire.

OOC: Sorry, was directed at DG.

Granzian Yemen

The harbor of Aden had been expanded and modernized after it became an overseas territory. Of particular attention was paid to the establishment of military facilities, after certain high-ranking Defense Ministry official cited Yemen's strategic location on the approach into the Red Sea. Over the span of several decades, Mandeb Naval Complex grew from a bare patch of windswept coast into a harbor anchoring the year-round quarters of sailors and vessels serving in the 3rd Battlefleet. Sufficiently secluding from prying eyes, men like ants worked to prepare the ships for sea.

A winding line of trucks brought in hundreds of bulky cargo crates overland. Speculation was rife among the Yemeni civilians. On the road leading from the waterfront in Aden, foodstuffs, spare equipment, and fuel were driven into Mandeb. Shells and ammunition packed tightly in the holds on board, the turrets polished and inspected. By late evening, the order came from Central Command. In the morning, the fleet would sail for Sudan.

OOC: I doubt Karuchea has 2million troops to provide.

IC:

Do you see a mobilisation of troops? Do you see a naval legion heading towards Sudan? Do you see a vast airforce bombing Sudan? No. If we wanted to annex Sudan we would have done so easily and a long time ago. We do not want the land annexed we want it to be put under our control for protection. We do not ask people if we may annex a land. When we want to, we do. This is not an annexation. Do not shove your army in front of me. We could crush it and your people mercilessly if we wanted. It is well within our power. However, we are responsible and wish to protect the people of Sudan.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

If you think we fear you you are most sadly mistaken. Sudan will remain free from control by you or SI. And as for your "point" about not wishing to annex the nation, I argue that this is merely annexation by stealth.

We wish to protect the nation of Sudan too, that is why we are wanting Eastern Sudan, we feel that only as part of Italy can it be safe and prosperous. Karuchea included troops from a 9 nation alliance in that number. 2.5 million divided by 10 is 250,000 per nation.

If you think we fear you you are most sadly mistaken. Sudan will remain free from control by you or SI. And as for your "point" about not wishing to annex the nation, I argue that this is merely annexation by stealth.


We work for the interests of the people of Sudan here. No-one else. Their interests would be best served by us.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

We urge all parties involved to exercise restraint in this conflict. It that war is inevitable at this point, but we ask that all leaders step back and consider the consequences of their actions before engaging in hostilities, after all, this is just Sudan.

Concordiat Department of State

Its still a godmod to move.

The Tenth fleet, following operations in Malay Peninsula, set sail immediately, heading to the Red Sea.

Your interests would be best served by it. Their interests would be best served by them not being under your thumb. That goes for SI too.

Actually, 250,000 from 10 different nations is not a god mode move because it is still less than 5% of population from each nation and still will take an extreme amount of time to move, not only that but we were just citing the numbers we have access to.

War was never on our minds. Protection of the Sudanese though was and still is. Sudan will not be under our thumb. They will be an example of how wealth success may be reached through the help of a larger force.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Why do they need your assistance in that? Why can you not simply leave them as a free state and provide assistance without controlling them?

Yes it is a godmod, moving 2.5 million troops is a logistical horror.

As I said if you would actually read my posts, I was simply referring to the number I had access to. And also as I said, it would take an extremely long time to move them all.

OOC: Deployments to Sudan:

3RD BATTLEFLEET

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 5

1 Vengence Class Supercarrier
1 Glacier Class Aircraft Carrier
2 Roydia RefitA Class Battleships
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Swiftsure Class Destroyers
5 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates

CARRIER BATTLE GROUP 6

2 Glacier Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
2 Triara Class Light Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Swiftsure Class Destroyers
5 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates

ASSAULT FLEET 3

1 Commonwealth Class Dreadnaught
2 Roydia RefitA Class Battleships
2 Helina Class Battlecruisers
2 Carthage Class Air Defense Cruisers
4 Portlandia Class Missile Cruisers
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Atlantia Class AEGIS Destroyers
4 Champlain Class Frigates
5 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates

SUBMARINE SQUADRON 3

6 Spirit Class Submarines
6 Seawolf Class Submarines

20 Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships

92 Ships Total

2nd Expedition Army

2nd Armored Division
18th Light Armored Division
36th Mechanized Division
68th Airborne Division
69th Airborne Division
132nd Artillery Brigade

72,000 troops total

IC: We laugh at the self-expressed egotist statement issued by Drum Gods. What makes you think the Sudan would be better as a colony under your imperialism rule? This, coming from one nation who published a list stating their intention to retake former possessions.

Ah right. But still, you would have to co-ordinate transport between you all and landing spots etc etc...Anyway.

Former posessions as you so quaintly put it are a part of our history. This is a completely different matter. If you would see sense you would see that Sudan and its people would benefit financially, militarily along with their peoples future prospectives.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Could Sociale Italiana be capable of looking after Eastern Sudan?

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Royclelandia already claimed Sudan. Sorry.

This threat to world peace must be stopped. Lets face it, both SI and DG think that it would be better off with them. DPUO thinks that they should remain free. We shall back DPUO against these imperialists to the last man. Speaking of men, here are our troops.

PLANES
400 Eurofighters
100 F-14
200 F/A-18
24 B-2 Stealth

HELICOPTERS
122 RAH-66 Comanche
120 SH-60 Seahawk anti sub

SUBS
20 Ohio class
20 Juliett II’s

SHIPS
12 Kitty hawk AC
12 Janubi battleships
30 Gepard Frigates
30 Fregat II Destroyers
15 California Cruisers
15 Ticonderoga Cruisers
10 Sovremennyy class
10 Udaloy class
12 Kirov’s
45 Slava Cruisers

ARMORED VEHICLES
297 M1A2 Abram Tanks
50 Humvees
40 M-270A1
60 Crusader Howitzers
200 M-113A3 APC
296 M2 Bradley tanks
400 Merkava tanks
40 HMMWV AA batteries (mobile)
48 Chapparal SAM launchers (mobile)

20'000 troops will also be sent. Any act of aggresion will be treated as grounds for a war.

They will arrive in around 4 days time. The troops will be transported by both ships and 10 C-5 planes.

It shows your foul intentions that you have all mobilised your armies against us when we have made no such move against you. You call us warmongerers.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

It shows your foul intentions that you have all mobilised your armies against us when we have made no such move against you. You call us warmongerers.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation
You have made a move aagainst the people of Sudan, we will keep the government there Sudanese and not imperialists.

Is it any surprise, when you have a stated aim of gaining back your former colonies and offer support to a fascist who merely wishes to enslave East Sudan, that we are not trusting of your word?

What support have I offered to the fascist? Please show me the support?

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: Just to say, Im ignoring any attacks that have happened in sudan so far, because I havn't had a chance to respond. Chellian peacekeepers have been in sudan for ages, with bonstockians, to ensure the freedom of sudan. They are there with the sudanese government's permission, so long as we don't interfere with internal policy.

IC: Chellis demands nations stop its aggresions on the sovereign lands of Sudan, and any violation of their space will be seen as a declaration of war on chellis. Chellis is beginning to move a large number of its west african forces to Sudan, by air and rail. We will also be shooting down any aircraft that violates Sudanese airspace without permission(and we will be using radiation detection to make sure stealth aircraft don't break this).

EDIT: I'll be gone for about 2 hours, so yeah...

OOC: I have had stealth aircraft present there for the past few NS hours. So what's the deal? Shoot them down and I do have the support of GDODAD to defend me if they are shot down or war is declared upon us because you're statement comes after we had already deployed the aircraft.

OOC: I have had stealth aircraft present there for the past few NS hours. So what's the deal? Shoot them down and I do have the support of GDODAD to defend me if they are shot down or war is declared upon us because you're statement comes after we had already deployed the aircraft.

OOC: Start moving them out now, and chellian ground forces will watch. If you refuse to move them out, then they will be shot down. That, or if they begin to arm ATG weapons.

From Emperor Takenski
"Do to the fact that the situation in Sudan is now resolved, our fleet will now be turning back to port. We are happy that the situation was resolved peacefully."

We still believe that Sudan would flourish in our hands. However, it was never one of our original colonies and we never mobilised troops to invade it unlike other nations. Our aircraft will start to make their way back to Baghdad International. If any harm should come to them then the full force of our military and GDODAD wil be implemented.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

We still believe that Sudan would flourish in our hands. However, it was never one of our original colonies and we never mobilised troops to invade it unlike other nations. Our aircraft will start to make their way back to Baghdad International. If any harm should come to them then the full force of our military and GDODAD wil be implemented.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Drum gods shouldn't threaten nations when it is violating other nations airspace, whether they were warned not to go in them, or not. It is a courtest not to shoot them down, not a requirement. There is no need to talk of alliances either, Gdodad is nothing now, and Chellis has great friends and alliances.

Seeing as the situation has taken care of itself, the alert level for Granzian assets in the Middle East has been dropped to normal. The 3rd Battlefleet, having never left harbor, will return to regular patrol duties.