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Su-52 Fanatic
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The Artistan division of the Sukhoi company was contracted by the government to create a new fighter to create an aircraft with the versatility of the Flanker with the technology and design to compete with the best aircraft on earth. The next step came with contacting one of the leading aerospace companies of New Empire, Nightfall systems. Taking stealth features and new systems perfected with the F-121 and F-133, and helping Sukhoi design a new airframe, the Fanatic was born. The Fanatic is based on the tandem triplane airfoil used on the Flanker series, but also incorporates advanced control surfaces, active stealth, supercruising engines, and a variety of other systems, making it a next generation fighter to be feared.

Engines
A pair of GE-F-129 engines, most recently used on the F-133 Valkyrie, provide an extremely high supercruise speed of Mach 2.5 and a maximum speed of Mach 3.3. The engines are thrust vectored.

Armarment
16 internal hardpoints are mounted in the massive bays of the Su-52. Four more are mounted on each wing. More can be added at a speed decrease, but the fighter bomber variant is the only one likely to use that feature. An M75 Hyveloc gatling gun is mounted.

Systems
- NIIP Zhur-MAM3 built around rotatable passive phased array. 220 mile range
- AIZP Irbis-H Bistatic Radar coupled with Zhur-MAM3. 180 mile range (Stealth Detect at 180 miles)
- Duel A/KJ-41 Jammers with frequency hoping jamming, seperate, each covering two bands at once to defeat jumping radar guided missiles.
- X/AFCS-M Advanced Fire Control System. Using Zhur-MAM3, Vhaka-M, SMRL-MK, and Irbis-H to locate, and identify upto and including 90 aircraft. Able to Engage 7 actively.
- NIIP2 Vhaka-M Rear mounted Radar. 200 mile range, ability to track 12 targets, and engage 4 with AA-14's.
- SMRL-MK Radar Pods. For horizontal and birds eye Radar of both ground and air targets. Range of 120 miles.
- Have Ray and Have Light LIDAR systems
- Rear and forward looking enhanced optic and IRSTS systems.
- Pallas Athena
- Active Aeroelastic Wings
- Rotating Canards
- RAM Coating
- Advanced Fly-by-Wire system (XXAFBW-1M)
- GPS uplink and satellite connection via Artech AR/MOS-Q Digital Uplink and Satellite feed
- Advanced Helmet Mounted Display system, 5th generation.

Upcoming Variants
Su-53 Naval
Su-54 Fighter Bomber/Ground Attack

VARIENTS OF THE Su-52!!


Su-52 - Interceptor - $125,000,000
Su-53 - Naval Fighter - $148,000,000
Su-54 - Ground Attack (Featuring 21,000lbs of Munitions, etc) - $120,000,000
NEW Su-55 - Missile Defence Aircraft (5 "Bugzapper" (X)ALW-5 Laser Defense Systems (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=371175)) - $200,000,000

We are now selling in small quantities. Each aircraft is $125 Million.

The Artitsan National Airforce (ANAF) has placed an order to Sukhoi-Artitsa for three-hundred twenty-four (324) Aircraft at a total cost of $40,500,000,000. And additional $60,000,000,000 has been allotted to purchase more Su-52 of the various varients.

To: Artista-UCSNE
From: Lieutenant General Marcus Mooney, Nutropinian Air Force

In the Interest of Expanding our Air Force we would like to Purchase 350 of Your Fine Aircraft. We would also like to reserve 150 of the Bomber Variant for when it comes back.

Your order of 350 has been accepted. Your order will be delievered over a time frame of 4 Years.

Money Wired.

Jaxusism would like to purchase 50. $6,250,000,000 as you said on AIM will be transferred upon confirmation.

The Empire is extremely interested in this design. We wish to order 24 aircraft, and eagerly await the upcoming variants. 3 Billion Wired.

OOC:When will you be able to take large orders? I like this aircraft a lot.

ooc: How many do you want to buy Ninjas?

ic:

Both Confirmed.

The new People's Republic of Sinear would like to purchase 25 of these aircraft. Right now though, my country is in turmoil with terrorism and threat of invasion, could we work out some kind of over time payment for these aircraft?

President Wesley

it just looks high-maintainence and lowtech to me.

Besides why would GE sell to the APTO if they are going to turn around and sell to Terrorist? I think the US would pull some strings and lock down GE assets - then pratt and whitney would be the premere jet engine builder and you wouldn't have the capacity to supply your new jets with world class engines. Somethings not adding up here.

OOC: It's called, I can sell whatever I want, because the name doesn't matter.

Explain how this is low tech... We've got active stealth, bistatic radar, a Mach 2+ supercruise capable engine, LIDAR, and a helmet HUD. It's more manuverable than any existing stealth aircraft, and faster. Let me guess, you got the low tech idea from the picture, didn't you? Because obviously you didn't read much of the statistics.

Maybe it's because you're a space nation, in which case, you're ignored by both of the nations here, and your definitions of high technology have no substance.

And furthermore, the F-129 engine does not exist... It's made up. There is no engine made by the GE company with those specifications or designation, in fact, it surpasses them.

Why don't you go bug the people who just copy and paste stats from FAS and sell every RL weapon they can find rather than bothering people who put effort into making something original, ok?

The assertion you make about my tech having no substance is without basis - it may be slightly ahead of the present day curve and assumes whats being worked on right now will be succesfully employed in the future but it is firmly rooted in current science fact.

While youre making up your slightly future tech F-119 GE engines
I'm making up an orbit capable spaceplane with the capacity to unload cruisemissles and air-to-air missles at highmach numbers in the upper atmosphere out of range of most modern defenses.

Youre thinking more of the same with some tweaks here and there based on what youve seen in the latest mig or US F-22 - I'm thinking about what would be required to defeat the current generation of air-dominance fighters. That's the only difference.

Well that I havent listed specific systems in my description cause it would all be made up like yours - I felt like just listing general capabilities and the technological ideas behind it - you have an interesting blend of near future scifi and realtech though in your content *golf-clap*

OOC:Hmm, it would replace my F-22 fighters for sure. Plus add a couple wings to be stored for use in times of war. So say 2,112 fighters, considering the technology used in the deisgn of the aircraft though I'm not sure if you can really mass produce this model. Fine aircraft though

OOC: Science fact or no, this is far beyond the 2020 tech bracket this is operating in. Perhaps in 2040 we'll have fighter jets capable of going Mach 20, but can also be fuel efficient in atmosphere, while still costing less than an F-22, but not now.

"I'm making up an orbit capable spaceplane with the capacity to unload cruisemissles and air-to-air missles at highmach numbers in the upper atmosphere out of range of most modern defenses."

You do know that this is going to costs billions per aircraft? And the turnaround time is going to be several days at least... I could see these as a first strike weapon against land targets, a la Hypersoar, but the fact that it wouldn't be able to manuver, and is vulnerable to ASAT or COIL weapons makes it too risky as an air to air weapon for my tastes.

But then again, you've got to be at least two decades ahead of us based on your storefront.

This thing was designed with the capability to defeat the F-22 and MFI. That's why we've got Bistatic radar, LIDAR, 3D thrust vectoring rather than 2D, airfoils that bend, a stealth systems that gives us a RCS of zero because of active cancellation, and, if necessary, the capability to mount a HELLADS pod (at least for me, I'm not sure if Artista is at that point)

Really, our definitions of high tech are apples and oranges... Can't really compare them.

OOC- Very, very nice...
You guys have to now design a kick-ass fighter bomber... That's what I need.
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The ARSB wishes to inquire if it is possible to purchase seventy-five Su-52 'Fanatic' fighters. The aircraft, due to their inherent superiority over the F-57A and 'C' variants, will be placed among our expeditionary air forces to quickly pacify any resistance until our mainline F-57 fighter force can move in to provide cover.

Our nation got ahead of the curve by not spending hundreds of billions on a military budget for decades - our interest remained purely space science and orbital technology focused until recently.

We are 2030 and on the verge of meaningful manned exploration of our solar system - but those programs have been delayed because we've needed to reengineer our technology for defense purposes. Our cruise missles are basically a scientist solidstate microfusion device on a magneto-plasma rocket. Magneto-plasma rockets are the backbone of our aerospace industries and have longsince been perfected and in massproduction - hence affordable in the extreme.

Your stealth and detection technologies may be ahead of us.
But in the areas of our interest and what has been our national focus for nearly 4 decades aerospace and orbital technology - we are way ahead of any nation on the market. We can now mass produce unmanned fighters with similar capabilities in the air as an F-22 but with sharper manuverability characteristics on the cheap. And we can make our AF/AB-23s at the cost of between 34-50 million. Our Manufacturing processes have been aided by our secondary interest - AI driven robotics.

Our National Focuses in the Sciences and in Education have kept us ahead of the curve for a decade now - and so we offer we have offered at our storefront without worries of a nation turning around and using it against us with much success. Because we believe we can maintain ahead of the orbital technology and aerospace curves.

They research NASA and the US Airforce did in the Hypersoar and Venture star were steps in the right direction - Private interest after 2008 took it further. But Space science and orbital technology was always viewed as a sideshow to the American people and by thier military so they never put as much as we did into it.

and here we are - we would however be interested in aquiring production rights on your stealth and detection technologies. Shall we - trade some?

We'll see.

Soviet Bloc, the Nation of Artitsa has bought many things from your nation, so we will sell the 50 some odd fighters to you for 3 Billion.

Ninja's we can provide 2000+ Aircraft over a timeframe of 10 years.

Alright. The funds will be sent immediately. Thank you.

We have heard of your aircraft from the Ninja's and would like to purchase 1256 of the aircraft for our A/F , at to price of 182 billion. The Money is wired with this order. We also have some aircraft that we sell,if interested,,Telegram me.

Thank You.. I Wanna Kick Booty ... Minister of Defense.. USLUG

OOC: Nice! How do y'a make the pics?

OOC: The aircraft and missile were made in DoGA L3, the smoke trails, motion blurs and such were done with Paint Shop Pro 7, and the background for the 2nd pic is from Ace Combat 5.

OOC: The aircraft and missile were made in DoGA L3, the smoke trails, motion blurs and such were done with Paint Shop Pro 7, and the background for the 2nd pic is from Ace Combat 5.

Very nice job.

We have heard of your aircraft from the Ninja's and would like to purchase 1256 of the aircraft for our A/F , at to price of 182 billion. The Money is wired with this order. We also have some aircraft that we sell,if interested,,Telegram me.

Thank You.. I Wanna Kick Booty ... Minister of Defense.. USLUG

1256 Aircraft will be delivered over a time frame of 5 years.

Bump.

We would like to purchase 500 of these aircraft. The price comes out to 62,500,000,000. Also we would like to know if you could modify these aircraft for carrier based operations.

Eager to embrace the best of foreign technology, The Bonstocknian Air Forces has expressed great interest in purchasing a large quantity of the Su-52 model.

We ask to purchase four of them for test and evaluation, at the price of your choice.

Bonstock... we will consider you due to past grieviences.

Other guy, we'll sell you 200.

Official letter from the Ministry of Defense
We would like to aquire a squadron (12) of these aircraft to try out for ourselves. If we find them satisfying we will order more.
*the amount of 1,5 billion $ is ready to be wired as soon as order is confirmed*

Confirmed.

While we commend the technological advances, our aircraft industry is solely allowed to sell to our military.

We also believe you are Godmoding a bit.

Prove it.

Unless the aircraft is very post-modern (I'm assuming it is not) there is no way it can fit 16 hardpoints inside, let alone 16 on the entire aircraft.

Actually, 16 on the entire aircraft is very feasible... When you take into account not every hardpoint carries a fullsize weapon. Think of small missiles like Sidewinder and the Small Diameter bomb... And the 16 internal also relates to fuselage hardpoints.

It lacks the stealth geometry.

If you look at the fuselage, there are a lot of bumps and other surfaces to reflect radar waves... There are also no 90 degree angles.

And on top of that, we coated it with RAM and used Pallas Athena, an active radar cancellation device. If you use a normal pulse doppler radar from a fighter on it, the thing has an RCS of zero.

I just think, that Aztec Land is a nub to Nationstates and doesn't have a clue what hes talking about. If your government doesn't allow for outside purchasing, then I don't care. Why post here? Is it because you like to spam? And seems you know nothing about aircraft, or maybe you just think its not stealthy cause it doesn't look like the F-117, argueably the worst Stealth Aircraft, or actual bomber, of all time.

The money has been wired. And we hope we will have great results with this aircraft, the specs certainly look promising.

"The Empire has become deeply interested in the Su-52 Fanatic Air Superiority Fighter. In accordance to this we wish to purchase 2,112 of these fine aircraft, for a total cost of 264 Billion. We would like to know if it would be possible to have these aircraft to arrive, and be paid for in ten installments. Please inform us if this is possible. Thank you."
Jack Fergunson
Department of Defense

bump

Greater Beijing of the Democratic Union of Asia would like to purchase 2 of each variant in your inventory including all of the hardware and munitions for technology demonstrations and live fire excericses against our current state of the art MUFI's.

How much would this come to.

You are both Confirmed. Beijing, I want to watch the demonstrations... Im fairly confident that the Su-53 is superior to anything anyone can currently make staying with the 2004 to 2020 timeframe.

Pwnica is interested in this aircraft, and wishes to purchase 200 units. The total of 2.5 billion will be wired upon confirmation of our order.

We would like:
2,000 Su-52 Fanatics at 125Million=250 Billion

We will wire the funds once the order is confirmed.

Confirmed.

Total money made on this aircraft:
$1,188,100,000,000 (1.1881 Trillion)

Bump

I'd like 2,000 for 250 billion.

Confirmed

BUMP for new Varients!

The British Ocean States Liberty Navy would be interested in procuring some of the Su-53 variant of the aircraft. Therefore, we request 85 of the aircraft.

The Empire wishes to purchase more models of this aircraft to be enlisted into our air force.
2,000 Su-55 @ 120M=240B
2,000 Su-53 @ 148=296B

Total=536 Billion

Money wired once order is confirmed.

The Confederate Department of Defense wishes to lease four (4) of the baseline aircraft for one (1) year, for evaluation.

suure, your both confirmed.