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Luna I
09-10-2004, 23:41
SPACE PLANES

TSP-12B Orbital Launch and Lunar Transport
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/probe02.gif
110(Luxury Liner Modification)-280 passengers and 12 member crew with 15-22 tonnes of cargo - with roughly the width equavalent to the wingspan of a 747 excluding the TSPs wings yet capable of taking off and landing from any strip at an internaitonal class airport - nonstop from the runway to a Lunar touch down and dustoff to atmospheric insertion and landing without refueling. The efficiency of these launch systems is a huge departure from the earlier reusable launch vehicles of this century - in part because it is a functional single stage-to-orbit delevery system - but also because of all of the advances that have come from the nations of the International Fleet in thier robust research and developement programs. These 3rd generation RLVs can launch personnel and material into space at a rate between 200-300 dollar per pound. This is made possible by a steady fast-pace slog of advances and technological developments in Mageneto-Plasma Dysnamic Rocketry, Material Sciences, Electromagnetics, hypersonic-fluid-plasma-dynamics, avionics, information technology, Fuel-Cells and smaller, ultrahigh output Uranium-tetraflouride Vaporcore reactors with MPD electric conversion cells.
16 day out operations. 28 day range with modifications.

Operational Cost:
31.32 mln per orbital ranged mission
62.138 mln per lunar ranged mission

380 million credits per vehicle

CSP-12C Orbital Precision Insertion Vehicle & Lunar Cargo Frieghter
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/target_drone01.gif
89 tonnes to the Lunar surface/45 tonnes back without refueling or need to stop. Capable of multiple, rapid, precision deployment of sattelites & delivery of materials on one launch.
84 day range with an 8 member crew.

Operational Cost:
29.96 mln per orbital delevery mission
59.44 mln per lunar ranged mission

350 million credits per vehicle

SAV-1B Strategic Aerospace Vehicle - Longrange Heavy Transport Variant
The deal to purchase 410 EB-15 Arkbird Strategic bombers for 1.23 trillion from the New Empire - Artitsa being retracted by Greater Beijing and Luna I on behalf of the International Fleet Defense apropriations 6 years ago has produced startiling results

Fullscale prototypes of our own Strategic Aerospace Vehicle have been built tested and refined and the project codenamed XS-1 is nearing completion. Similar in geometry and size to the Arkbird the plane looks almost identical to the Strategic Bomber. But looks are where the similarities end.


Power - 2 UF-4 Vaporcore-MPD generators and the new X serries of heavy fuelcells.
Propulsion - 6 Nextgen turbofan engines, 2 variable specific impulse magneto-plasma rocket driven scramjets with forced helicon ema's.
Controlsystems are heavily automated by AI and robotics reducing crew requirements for operation and maintenence.
technologies of interest developed for the SAV -
-electromagnetic structural interlocks eliminates critical mechanical vibrations at low altitude high mach number manuvers and at q-max points durring re-entry manuvers.
-Nanite laminated secondary skin for automated AI controled hull repairs
-Carbon-nanotube-fiber microcomposited Berylium-Titanium alloys
-Air-to-air Anti-air plasma warheaded 1:8 independant fasttracking swarmer missiles the AA-1/8PWH.


4 Variants have been tested - and it has been named correctly - the Strategic Aerospace Vehicle is capable of Orbital Insertions from any major international airport on earth under it's own power, and even without it's main power core functioning, on emergency power it has the capacity to achieve escape velocities in orbital trajectories running on a new serries of heavy fuel cells developed by the Orbital Institutes of Technology at gateway station.

Variant B is a 4th Generation Reusable Aerospace Transport capable of hauling 168 tonnes or 1200 personnel and 28.2 tonnes in intercontinental flights thru suborbital trajectories in minutes or 102 tonnes or 1200 personnel and 8.8 tonnes into LEO. Also equiped with 380 AA-1/8PWH swrmer missiles in 4 batteries and 4 UCAVs for defense.
http://www.acecombat.jp/img/os/os04.jpg
2 bln each

C-220 Heavy lift intercontinental transport
Propulsion 10 nextgen heliconcore turbofans
Capacity 122 tonnes or 920 paratroopers and 32 tonnes or 1200 troops and 32 tonnes.
Maximum Speed Mach 1.8[supercruise 1.5]
http://www.acecombat.jp/img/os/os04.jpg
600 mln each

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COMBAT & DEFENSE SYSTEMS
sales limited to aproved or international fleet memberstates only


Fighters/Bombers

AF/AB-23E Aerospace Fighter/Attack-Bomber
no image available - think beefed up YF-23 with 3, 3-D thrust vectoring nozzles and 2 ventral intakes for the combined cycle variable specific impulse magneto-plasma rocket driven scramjets with helicon-array emp forced plasma afterburners

3rd generation air dominance fighter/bomber.

A reengineered and heavily modifyied version of the US YF-23 Black Widow.
Capable of operating from an orbital position or from any ground base. Designed for the release of longrange tactical microfusion cruisemissles or hypervelocity air-to-air/air-to-ground multitargeting swarmer missles at highmachnumbers from the upper atmosphere where it can slip out of range of anti-air and air defense systems at escape velocities or from sea level combat situations utilizing its stealth and speed and excellent weapons systems for first site, shot, kill style air dominance. In dogfighting combat situations utilizes supermanuverability and superior speed to bring to bear a 7 point 30mm hypervelocity light auto-railgun on close range targets.

From the ground it can hit a target anywhere in the world and without refueling make it home by skipping above the atmosphere and making a reinsertion to attack and then again to land.

From an orbital deployment the AF/AB-23E can swoop into the upper atmosphere where it can deploy missles to destroy ground, naval and airborne targets alike while remaining out of range of most airdefense systems.

In close support of ground forces tactical microfusion missles and multitargetting swarmer missles excell in supressing if not completely destroying enemy possitions ahead of friendly ground forces.

10 - external missle hardpoints 5 on each wing & 4 internal missles hardpoints - effective ranges(22km & 1200km)
1 - 7 point 30mm hypervelocity light auto-railgun - effective range(5.2km)

43(larger orders)-72 million

Unmanned AI driven version - UAF/B-23
28.25 mln per drone
234.8 mln per controler-wing a 4 part squadron of UAF/B-23s with integrated main AI's that increase the effectiveness of a combat squadron of up to 52 drones.

Dedicated attack version - A-24
63.2 mln

SAV-1B Strategic Aerospace Vehicle - Heavy Bomber Variant
Variant A was the primary design objective of a Strategic Aerospace Vehicle. A longrange heavy bomber - the default optimal loadout configuartion is 340 cruisemissiles, 1290 AA-1/8PWH swarmer missiles in 4 batteries, 4 UCAVs all run by an AI driven automation assisted crew of 18.
http://www.acecombat.jp/img/os/os01.jpg
2.1 bln

SAV-1C Strategic Aerospace Vehicle - UC/L Variant
Variant C is a UCAV Carrier and manned fighter mobile base of ops and refueler - the primary mission of these SAVs when deployed will be close-to-combat logistical support of an air-campaign or mission. Capable of maintaining 16 UCAVs and 42 fighters for 192 hours at peak turn arounds and capable of performing monitor/patrol/intel missions for 672 hours or 28 days.
http://www.acecombat.jp/img/os/os02.jpg
2.6 bln

SAV-1D Strategic Aerospace Vehicle - IR/SO Variant
Variant D is an Intelligence and Black Ops version deisgned to the specifications of the International Fleet Intelligence Agency and Special Forces Division of the Orbital Guard - additional information unavailable.
http://www.acecombat.jp/img/os/os05.jpg
-limited to international fleet orbital guard appropriations-

Dropships/Gunships/Corvettes

HG/D-1D Aerospace Heavy Gun/Dropship
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/light_corvette3.gif
Designed to fight its way in and secure a drop zone - then stay and provide air-ground heavy fire support and air defense to insure the successful mission completetion of ground forces deployed.

Capacity
128 tonnes in Mobile Artilary, Armoured Vehicles, Unmanned Recon/Combat Drones, Troops & Equipment

Weapons
1 Railgun - effective range(9km)
4 Plasma Projection Cannons - effective range(2.8km)
2 Missle/torpedo launchers - effective range(22km/1200km) - 20 automatic rapid fire cells

Propulsion & Power
1 Vaporcore-MPD cycled gigawatt range generator
18 fuel cells(emergency backups meet minimal powered troop recovery and orbital escape requirments)

Multiaxis Manuver Thrust Vented Magneto-plasma core for VTOL, Combat & Space Manuverability
Variable Specific Impulse Magneto-plasma Rocket Driven Scramjets-MPR Combined cycle drive.

11.1 billion credits


HG/D-3A Aerospace Heavy Gun/Dropship
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/multigun_corvette4.gif
Designed to fight its way in and secure a drop zone - then stay and provide air-ground heavy fire support and air defense to insure the successful mission completetion of ground forces deployed.

Capacity
160 tonnes in Mobile Artilary, Armoured Vehicles, Unmanned Recon/Combat Drones, Troops & Equipment

Weapons
6 Extended Range Railguns - effective range(14km)
4 Heavy Plasma Projection Cannons - effective range(2.8km)
8 Missle/torpedo launchers - effective range(22km/1200km) - 20 automatic rapid fire cells

Propulsion & Power
2 Vaporcore-MPD cycled gigawatt range generators
11 heavy fuel cells(emergency backups meet minimal powered troop recovery and orbital escape requirments)

Multiaxis Manuver Thrust Vented Magneto-plasma core for VTOL, Combat & Space Manuverability
Variable Specific Impulse Magneto-plasma Rocket Driven Scramjets-MPR Combined cycle drive.

19 billion credits

CAPITAL CLASS WARSHIPS

Revelation Class Warships
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/destroyer1.gif
Mobile Heavy Weapons Platform
Support ship and base of operations for orbital launched, ground and aerospace combat operations.

Standard Arsenal
4 Heavy Fusion Projection Cannons
Unlimited number of AI driven unmanned fighter drones
42 AF/AB-23s
9 HG/D-1s
3 HG/D-3s
-limited to international fleet orbital guard appropriations-
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Luna I
10-10-2004, 21:14
SPACE BORNE SYSTEMS
Space Exploration Cruisers
The future of maned space flight today, take your nations industries to all new heights or to all new worlds - featuring the industrial capacity of a small city on the fly; build mining facilities, sattelites, aerospace craft, transports and research installations on your way to strange new worlds. All made possible through the latest in AI driven robotic manufacturing and resource managment systems.



Columbia Class Exploration Cruisers
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/torpedo_frigate01.gif
Support ship and base of operations for orbital launched, scientific survey missions to other worlds. The workhorse of the International Fleet.
664 Billion
9 made - estimated current construction time from aquisition order: 2 years


Alpha Class Exploration Cruisers
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/v_cap_a9.gif
Support ship and base of operations for orbital launched, scientific survey missions to other worlds. With about 4 times the manufacturing capacity of the Cortez class - it is well worth the investment.
1.968 Trillion
2 made - estimated current construction time from aquisition order: 8 years


Ares Class Exploration/Colonization Cruiser
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/v_cruiser5.gif
Support ship and base of operations for orbital launched, scientific surveys, and colonization missions to other worlds - a flying city in space complete with an industrial complex to match for all of your new world needs. Faster, larger, better, but not cheaper - yet still well worth the investment with 10 times the manufacturing capacity of the Cortez class exploration cruiser.
2.861 Trillion
1 underconstruction - estimated current construction time from aquisition order: 16 years


Imperator Class Supportship/Carriers
http://www.well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/carrier2.gif
Support ship and base of operations for orbital launched, ground and air superiority combat operations or scientific survey missions to other worlds.
2.366 Trillion
6 made - estimated current construction time from aquisition order: 6 years
sales limited to aproved or international fleet memberstates only


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International Fleet Capital Ship Registry - 2027
4 Columbia class exploration cruisers [ 6 underconstruction - 4 at Gateway Station Earth, 2 at Phobos City ]
1 Imperator class carrier [ 1 underconstruction - @GWS ]
0 Alpha class exploration cruisers [ 1 underconstruction - @GWS ]

1 Revelation class warship [ 1 underconstruction - @GWS ]


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International Fleet Capital Ship Registry - 2077
19 Columbia class exploration cruisers [ 13 underconstruction - 5 at Gateway Station Earth, 8 at Phobos City-Intersteller Launch ]
6 Imperator class carriers [ 8 underconstruction - 4@GWS, 4@PC-ISL ]
2 Alpha class exploration cruisers [1 underconstruction - @GWS ]
0 Ares class colonial exploration cruiser [ 1 underconstruction - @PC-ISL ]

4 Revelation class warships [ 4 underconstruction - 2@GWS, 2@PC-ISL ]
Flame masters
10-10-2004, 21:27
would you like to join the list of arms suppliers (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=364409)

if so post on that link^
Zhejiang
11-10-2004, 00:48
ok done.
Restrictions still apply for purchasing IF defense systems though
Luna I
13-10-2004, 06:33
Thanks Zhejiang

and Bump!
Luna I
13-10-2004, 06:36
The Democratic Union of Asian nationstates are all IF members

The Japanese People, and Kanabia might be interested in joining the IF from thier regions - it would allow them access to and purchasing rights to IF Defense Systems.
Shandong-Jiangsu
13-10-2004, 08:06
We need to outfit a standing airfoce to deter and possibly preempt Chinese insurgency east of our territory - we will require 220 AF/AB-23s to begin with and the facilities to maintain them from the ground.

IF allocations adjusted for the next 5 years
Luna I
13-10-2004, 08:12
We need to outfit a standing airfoce to deter and possibly preempt Chinese insurgency east of our territory - we will require 220 AF/AB-23s to begin with and the facilities to maintain them from the ground.

IF allocations adjusted for the next 5 years


Aproved - we've assigned the Orbital Support Carrier Botani Bay as a base of operations until we have cleared your ground facillities.

You will of course be covered by a standard IF defense group in addition to these ordered fighters until stability returns to the region - it was a pleasure doing buisness with you.
Greater Beijing
15-10-2004, 16:12
Bump
Five Civilized Nations
15-10-2004, 19:22
I find it interesting that you have this technology in 2020-2030...
Luna I
17-10-2004, 03:25
I find it interesting that you have this technology in 2020-2030...


The idea behind being ahead of the curve is the result of keeping the nation focused as a whole on aerospace - 1 out of 8 citizens in Zhejiang the birthplace of Luna I has doctoral or terminal degrees in the sciences or aerospace technology related areas. A mass exodus and the establishment of permanent independant facilities in GEO and on the Lunar surface are the result of pouring every resource we could into the education system and aerospace related industries for decades.

Nothing mystical about it - 98% perspiration - 2% inspiration. :D
Luna I
17-10-2004, 03:28
I dunno if its wise to do so but we should disclose the fact that we just have one Revelation Class warship built and our Shipyards is still unfinished limiting our production of exploration cruisers and orbital support ships.

We have the technology but our manufacturing and production capabilities are still not optimal for our needs - the International Fleet is still in its infancy.
Asurnahb
17-10-2004, 03:37
OOC: Homeworld? I love Homeworld...I played it religiously back in the day.
Luna I
17-10-2004, 03:58
OOC: same here m8 - Kiith Paktu at your service lol.
Exetonia Minor
19-10-2004, 12:56
ESA The space orginisation of the Exetonian Empire would like to purchase the following:

10 x CSP-12C Orbital Precision Insertion Vehicle & Lunar Cargo Frieghter
300 x HG/D-1D Aerospace Heavy Gun/Dropship
2 x Cortez Class Exploration Cruisers
Total - $900,540,000,000

Money wired upon confirmation.

we have diverted funds from the Exetonian Empires government waste, administartion and military budget.
Sephrioth
19-10-2004, 13:22
21 Ares Class Exploration/Colonization Cruisers
Sephrioth
19-10-2004, 13:25
bump
Luna I
19-10-2004, 16:05
ESA The space orginisation of the Exetonian Empire would like to purchase the following:

10 x CSP-12C Orbital Precision Insertion Vehicle & Lunar Cargo Frieghter
300 x HG/D-1D Aerospace Heavy Gun/Dropship
2 x Cortez Class Exploration Cruisers
Total - $900,540,000,000

Money wired upon confirmation.

we have diverted funds from the Exetonian Empires government waste, administartion and military budget.

acording to our calculations the ships requisted would cost 4,232,010,000,000
please confirm available funds or adjust order - note that the Heavygun/Dropships are state of the art frigate class defense/transport systems costing 11.1-19 Billion each - we can supply the ships requisted, just recheck your order first.
Luna I
19-10-2004, 16:09
21 Ares Class Exploration/Colonization Cruisers

Is that a Joke - we'd require 30% of the cost upfront and a budget summary showing that you can pay the rest within 10 years so that it can be invested in SY upgrades and construction wont lag beyond 60 years. 21 Ares Class ECCs would presently cost a total of 27,300,000,000,000 - 30% of which would be 8.19 trillion.
Five Civilized Nations
19-10-2004, 16:41
The idea behind being ahead of the curve is the result of keeping the nation focused as a whole on aerospace - 1 out of 8 citizens in Zhejiang the birthplace of Luna I has doctoral or terminal degrees in the sciences or aerospace technology related areas. A mass exodus and the establishment of permanent independant facilities in GEO and on the Lunar surface are the result of pouring every resource we could into the education system and aerospace related industries for decades.

Nothing mystical about it - 98% perspiration - 2% inspiration. :D
Sure...
Exetonia Minor
19-10-2004, 18:36
we would like to pay over 5 years if thsi is accetable.
Luna I
20-10-2004, 05:05
we would like to pay over 5 years if thsi is accetable.

Done.

And Five Civies - Bite.
Exetonia Minor
22-10-2004, 17:10
1 x Ares Class Exploration/Colonization Cruiser


EXETONIA will divert whatever extra budget is required to purchase this space vessel. Our shipyards in orbit are now complete and we would like to talk about buying plans for all vessels listed.

*money wired upon confirmation.* Also, all payments ahve been back dated so 4th payment of previous order will also be wired tyo the total sum of the 4 overdue payments
Luna I
24-10-2004, 01:40
1 x Ares Class Exploration/Colonization Cruiser


EXETONIA will divert whatever extra budget is required to purchase this space vessel. Our shipyards in orbit are now complete and we would like to talk about buying plans for all vessels listed.

*money wired upon confirmation.* Also, all payments ahve been back dated so 4th payment of previous order will also be wired tyo the total sum of the 4 overdue payments


Done - but, may we ask what you intend to do with the Ares 03?
Exetonia Minor
24-10-2004, 13:39
We wish to use it for deep space exploration.
Luna I
25-10-2004, 04:06
By deepspace do you mean missions to other stars or up to the comet ring?

Because although the ship could make it and live off the land if it found any planetary system - it wasnt designed for extended range trips to other systems. A larger ship were the crews would have more comfortable living space and work to do on the way would be recommended - We were thinking of a ship on the magnitude higher in size than the Ares. The ship that would visit other systems would perhaps be capable of building Ares' on the fly. But we dont have the funds for such a Colonial Class Vessel.
Porto Calus
27-10-2004, 12:42
To LUNA I
I think your desing are really good, and the ships are great
but your prices are too expansive
some ships are virtually unables to operate at this cost
I think its time for you research ways to decrease this prices
João from Porto Calus
The Imperial Navy
27-10-2004, 13:19
OOC: Heh. A few months ago before I upgraded, I used Homeworld 2 ships...

IC: "Those ships... they look so similar to the ancient fleets..."

"Too true My Emperor. I think your Grandfather flew them."

"They may be old, but man they were reliable. whatever happened to them?"

"They were either scrapped or converted to armed cargo haulers... and they are still reliable My Emperor."

"Good to see their service continues... but what is the status of the Juggernaut-class heavy battleship?"

"It is 90% complete my Emperor."

"Ah, the Flagship is almost ready. I must inspect it somtime..."
Luna I
31-10-2004, 02:16
To LUNA I
I think your desing are really good, and the ships are great
but your prices are too expansive
some ships are virtually unables to operate at this cost
I think its time for you research ways to decrease this prices
João from Porto Calus

These ships virtually take care of themselves with a central-control AI and a system of robots to aid in the turn around and maintenence they are cheap in the extreme once the initial aquisition is covered.

The fuelcells run on purifyied water. And the reators on Uranium Tetraflouride. which we can supply at reasonable cost as well.

We are always working on new designs and new manufacturing techniques to reduce the cost of production. But thats the best we can do right now.
Luna I
07-11-2004, 20:01
Operational cost of 3rd Gen. RLVs added. And prices reevaluated.
Porto Calus
16-11-2004, 05:03
Luna I
I undestando you reasons, and if you want some help, we will give tem glady
I hope to help all members of international fleet
we need to make space colonization in reasenable costs
Im intrested in some ships
we have 30trillion to invest in a new fleet
Joao from Porto Calus
Luna I
26-12-2004, 03:18
Site updated with the new Strategic Aerospace Vehicle serries.
Greater Beijing
27-12-2004, 02:01
hmmm I don't think anybody likes them.
Luna I
28-12-2004, 00:33
hmmm I don't think anybody likes them.
Maybe we should lower prices again.
Luna I
28-12-2004, 02:09
updated - including a ships registry and a more comprehensive ships role.

Im concedering halfing the prices of all IF systems except capital ships.

Next is the detailed component and technical data on all ships - I should start with the Cortez and Revelation - and Ive yet to add the Monitor/Frigate or even name it. But its obvious a defense fleet wouldnt be able to function without it - not on warships, carriers and fighters alone - we need a heavy gunship sort of light carrier combination to fill out the role of a heavy fire support/escort ship in major engadgments and a patrolship/monitor when we are at peace.

Ill work on it.
Greater Beijing
29-12-2004, 00:31
Do International Fleet memberstates have production rights to all non-combat systems?

It would be a great incentive to joining the international fleet - although producing most of these systems would cost a lot more than it would International Fleet faccilities - having the tech base to work with could fuel new technologies and inovations.
Luna I
01-01-2005, 16:10
Do International Fleet memberstates have production rights to all non-combat systems?

It would be a great incentive to joining the international fleet - although producing most of these systems would cost a lot more than it would International Fleet faccilities - having the tech base to work with could fuel new technologies and inovations.

Yeah I will allow that.
Luna I
02-01-2005, 20:10
Just a name change - edited the first exploration cruiser from the Cortez to the Columbia Class
Greater Beijing
03-01-2005, 00:41
Now that I think about it it doesnt make sense to have one fighter the AF-23 for every role concievable as you describe it Luna I.

Maybe a Fighter can operated from orbit by being dropped and feathering into the atmosphere - but a small air-superiority attack fighter being able to atain escape velocity after a mission doesnt sound realistic.

A hypersoar style craft could be used as a heavybomber, reconnasance, logistics, heavybomber interceptor, fast-response transport, or even a ballistic missle defense platform - but not a fighter the size of the YF-23.

And the prices should be way up there to reflect the expenses of the state of the art and the high tech requirements of these developments.

And a couple of trillion for those capital ships is probably right - about the same price for a functional ISS