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The Cryonics Storefront

Prices

Minimum Suspension Funding (Remember: We do accept insureance, which can cut prices down greatly):

Full-Body Neurosuspension (NEW!!!): $200,000.000
Neurosuspension with Whole Body Suspension: $150,000.00
Whole Body Suspension: $120,000.00
Neurosuspension: $50,000.00

Extra Costs:

$15,000.00 for residents of North America.
$25,000.00 for reosdent of coutries outside of Europe and North America.
$25,000.00 for last minute services.

Selected FAQ Q&As from ALCOR.org on Cyronics

Q: What if the electric power fails?

A: Liquid nitrogen is used to keep cryonics patients cold, and the laws of physics keep liquid nitrogen cold, not electricity. Liquid nitrogen refills are needed every few weeks, but electricity is not required for patient care systems.

Myth: Experts say cryonics cannot work.

A: Most experts in any single field will rightly say that they know of no evidence that cryonics can work. That's because cryonics is an interdisciplinary field based on three facts (http://www.alcor.org/AboutCryonics/index.html) from diverse unrelated sciences. Without all these facts, cryonics seems ridiculous. Unfortunately that makes the number of experts qualified to comment on cryonics very small. For example, very few scientists even know what vitrification is. Fewer still know that vitrification can preserve cell structure of whole organs (http://www.alcor.org/cryomyths.html#myth2) or whole brains (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15247086). Even though this use of vitrification has been published, it is so uncommon outside of cryonics that only a handful of cryobiologists know it is possible.

The situation is comparable to the development of space travel before World War II. At that time, "aeronautical experts" were adamant that space travel was impossible. Only Robert Goddard (http://www.time.com/time/time100/scientist/profile/goddard.html) and a few German rocket scientists knew that multi-stage rockets could escape the earth. As is often the case, the experts best qualified to comment on a new field are the experts working in that field. No properly qualified expert has ever said cryonics can't work. The problem is finding experts qualified to comment on cryonics.

Q: What is Vitrification?

http://www.alcor.org/images/kidney.jpg

A: Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60% of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals. This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling. Instead of freezing, molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature (approximately -124°C). Unlike freezing, there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue. Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified, and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45°C while protected with vitrification chemicals.

Interesting. TAG

Oh yeah, almost forgot:

Because we're taking care of people's lives, I think customers need to have trust in my nation.

First, the most important thing is that my nation is based on the Second Reich, NOT the Third. That's a very common mistake made by people.

Secondly, we have very strict regulations for employees. Don't worry about people making mistakes.

Thirdly, secruity is very tight, so don't worry about sabatage.

Can we be getting a discount? If not well DAMNIT ALL TO HELL!!!

Can we be getting a discount? If not well DAMNIT ALL TO HELL!!!

Of course you can. You've helped me so many times I cannot even remember all of them. What would you like?

Neurosuspension with whole body suspension for twenty people.

Camel Eaters:

Any insurance?

If not, I'll give you a discouted price of $1 Million for helping me and for being my first customer. If you have no clue what the heck you just purchased, it's when the head is perserved with the best and most current technology and the rest of the body is perserved with the old technology (no one in the Cryonics field has been able to use the new method on the entire body).

Hmm. Insurance no we don't have insurance but the ruling family never needed it before. I had an idead what it was I ordered just not an amazingly good one.

Confirmed.

Bump!

We would Like to Reserve A Spot (Neurosuspension and Body Suspension) for Our Leader Dictator Paul 'The Mad' Silver when he dies.

Watch out with the word "dies." Any doctor of Cryonics would kill you if you said that (no pun intended! :)). Anyway, that's fine. But by the time he dies, we'll most likely have full body vitrification.

I hate to inform you TGSR, but cryrogenics will fail, soon you'll one day run out of power (totally, even without backup) to keep these people "undead", then theirs the wars that come, nukes, will eventually kill these people, and destroy this whole center, even if you succed in geting a person unfrozen and back to a normal life,(which would amaze me!!!!!)also, another thing is tha this person would be crying (much emotional distress), for everyone he(she) once knew would be dead, or 40 years older than them, how could you prevent this person from becoming a leader of a nation with old ways, and corrupting the place hmmmmmm???
we calculate that it would take you 40 NS years to figure out how to unfreze this process

Bump!

I hate to inform you TGSR, but cryrogenics will fail, soon you'll one day run out of power (totally, even without backup) to keep these people "undead", then theirs the wars that come, nukes, will eventually kill these people, and destroy this whole center, even if you succed in geting a person unfrozen and back to a normal life,(which would amaze me!!!!!)also, another thing is tha this person would be crying (much emotional distress), for everyone he(she) once knew would be dead, or 40 years older than them, how could you prevent this person from becoming a leader of a nation with old ways, and corrupting the place hmmmmmm???
we calculate that it would take you 40 NS years to figure out how to unfreze this process
You're an asshole. It's a game. A GAME!!!

I hate to inform you TGSR, but cryrogenics will fail, soon you'll one day run out of power (totally, even without backup) to keep these people "undead", then theirs the wars that come, nukes, will eventually kill these people, and destroy this whole center, even if you succed in geting a person unfrozen and back to a normal life,(which would amaze me!!!!!)also, another thing is tha this person would be crying (much emotional distress), for everyone he(she) once knew would be dead, or 40 years older than them, how could you prevent this person from becoming a leader of a nation with old ways, and corrupting the place hmmmmmm???
we calculate that it would take you 40 NS years to figure out how to unfreze this process

Wait, "Cryogenics?" That's the study of cold temperatures. NASA does Cryogenics, we do Cryonics.

I was wondering who would try to discredit Cryonics first.

OK, your facts are way off.

First of all, no "power" is used. I was going to add this to the "Misinformed F&A Section," but I never got the time to make one.

Q: What if the electric power fails?

A: We use liquid nitrogen to keep cryonics patients cold, and the laws of physics keep liquid nitrogen cold, not electricity. Liquid nitrogen refills are needed every few weeks, but electricity is not required for current patient care systems.

Secondly, there is no freezing in vitrification (our preferred method).

Look at the difference:

http://www.alcor.org/images/kidney.jpg

Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60% of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals. This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling. Instead of freezing, molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature (approximately -124°C). Unlike freezing, there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue. Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified, and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45°C while protected with vitrification chemicals.

And finally, your comment about people thinking their dead who bought with their own money to be Cryonically Perserved is just stupid.

Bump!

Greetings, Great Sixth Reich.

I would be more than willing to authorize granting you $50 billion towards further cryonic research in your nation. We are interested in this field, as this technology would be necessary for deep star-void travel.

I am planning deep manned star-void travel to Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, and cryogenics would fit the bill of preserving the astronauts during these journeys that would take years to complete.

The IASD, or Inti Aerospace and Star-void Directorate would be more than willing to partner with your Cryogenic companies to develop Cryogenic technologies for star-void and long distance travel.

I look forward to your response.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

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OOC:

Star-void = Outer Space in the Sharina language.

To TGSR:

Kay Medical Industries, Genetic Therapies and Plastic Surgeries, is interested in associating with your Cryonics Firm. You deal in preserving lives, we deal in making lives better. If we could be any service to you or your clientel, please contact us as soon as possible. We are more than interested in establishing a business relationship.

Kay Medical Industries (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=353493). 'Beauty is the only thing in life!'

Kay Medical
Sibyl Google

Ministry of Health
Minister Sibyl Google
Fodmodmadtol

Great Sixth Reich:

What about pets? D'you do pets?

With piqued curiosity and a dying favorite jackal,
--Miss C. Merridew

Great Sixth Reich:

What about pets? D'you do pets?

With piqued curiosity and a dying favorite jackal,
--Miss C. Merridew

Yea, we do. I believe it's 25% of what ever you want.

Bump!

Greetings, Great Sixth Reich.

I would be more than willing to authorize granting you $50 billion towards further cryonic research in your nation. We are interested in this field, as this technology would be necessary for deep star-void travel.

I am planning deep manned star-void travel to Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, and cryogenics would fit the bill of preserving the astronauts during these journeys that would take years to complete.

The IASD, or Inti Aerospace and Star-void Directorate would be more than willing to partner with your Cryogenic companies to develop Cryogenic technologies for star-void and long distance travel.

I look forward to your response.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

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OOC:

Star-void = Outer Space in the Sharina language.

OOC:

What is your response to this, Sixth Reich? Hate to nag ya. :)

In that case, I believe I shall go with Neurosuspension with Whole Body Suspension for it. No insurance, but no matter. My people support this particular transaction, as this particular jackal successfully scared away a giant squid threatening one of our best port cities. (We're not entirely sure how, but never mind that.)

Appropriate funds will be wired to you as soon as possible so that there is no confusion about payments when the time comes to freeze Mr. Noodles.

Quite pleased indeed,
--C. Merridew

Greetings, Great Sixth Reich.

I would be more than willing to authorize granting you $50 billion towards further cryonic research in your nation. We are interested in this field, as this technology would be necessary for deep star-void travel.

I am planning deep manned star-void travel to Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, and cryogenics would fit the bill of preserving the astronauts during these journeys that would take years to complete.

The IASD, or Inti Aerospace and Star-void Directorate would be more than willing to partner with your Cryogenic companies to develop Cryogenic technologies for star-void and long distance travel.

I look forward to your response.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

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OOC:

Star-void = Outer Space in the Sharina language.

Sure,

Our main (and only) facility is one the North side of Hienkel City International Airport, near the cargo terminals. It can be reached directly from the airport. Private planes can land on the nearby GA runway (007R from the east, and 77R from the west, both VOR or ILS). Or you can fly commerially.

We will accept the partenership.

In that case, I believe I shall go with Neurosuspension with Whole Body Suspension for it. No insurance, but no matter. My people support this particular transaction, as this particular jackal successfully scared away a giant squid threatening one of our best port cities. (We're not entirely sure how, but never mind that.)

Appropriate funds will be wired to you as soon as possible so that there is no confusion about payments when the time comes to freeze Mr. Noodles.

Quite pleased indeed,
--C. Merridew

Confirmed.

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Any word on the Kay Medical offer?

To TGSR:

Kay Medical Industries, Genetic Therapies and Plastic Surgeries, is interested in associating with your Cryonics Firm. You deal in preserving lives, we deal in making lives better. If we could be any service to you or your clientel, please contact us as soon as possible. We are more than interested in establishing a business relationship.

Kay Medical Industries (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=353493). 'Beauty is the only thing in life!'

Kay Medical
Sibyl Google

Ministry of Health
Minister Sibyl Google
Fodmodmadtol

We'll allow assocation or what ever you want.

The Sixth Reich will fall, just like the Third Reich! Hitler never knew what he was doing, you don't either, so it's just a matter of time till you figure out how your doing this all wrong. Besides, if you wanna take over the world, you can't force your rule on other countries, you must offer it, and do it peacefully. You bring force, force will be brought back on you by many, bring peace, and people might decide to JOIN you in your quest for world govenment, but your country sounds like a threat to my people, and the rest of the world, and no one will want to join forces with you. Anyone who agrees, send me a message telling me, and those of you who agree with the Reich, :upyours: No suck for you, You will all die! :sniper: :mp5:

I'll take a Neurosepension with whole body supension for 12 people.

Greetings, Great Sixth Reich.

I am sending several teams of Aerospace engineers and Star-void specialists to your facility. Would construction of a residential wing and an experiment building be possible? In addition a cargo warehouse would be ideal so Sharina can send its material then transfer it into the cargo warehouse. Then the material will be transferred to the experiment building.

That way, the engineers and specialists can bring in their star-void equipment for research and application of your cryogenics technologies? All research will be shared with your nation.

Would this be acceptable?

Let me know ASAP.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

Greetings, Great Sixth Reich.

I am sending several teams of Aerospace engineers and Star-void specialists to your facility. Would construction of a residential wing and an experiment building be possible? In addition a cargo warehouse would be ideal so Sharina can send its material then transfer it into the cargo warehouse. Then the material will be transferred to the experiment building.

That way, the engineers and specialists can bring in their star-void equipment for research and application of your cryogenics technologies? All research will be shared with your nation.

Would this be acceptable?

Let me know ASAP.

Live well,
President Rand Veristek

Because of the fact that the cargo terminals are right next to the lab, that would be possible. And because taxiway CA is right in front of the building, no adjustments to the airport need to be made. We will allow everything.

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The Scandinvans: Order confirmed.

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P. Suckers: You must really be stupid if you think "Reich" means Hitler...

Bump!

Bump!

Bump!

this sounds interesting, i might be interested in a few NS years

Bump!

Our scientists have been working overtime for the last couple of years to develop Full-Body Vitrification. Today we have developed technology and techniques capable to allow Full-Body Vitrification.

http://www.alcor.org/images/kidney.jpg

Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60% of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals. This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling. Instead of freezing, molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature (approximately -124°C). Unlike freezing, there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue. Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified, and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45°C while protected with vitrification chemicals.

One of the Dictator's Bodyguards just died from an accidental 10mm bullet round to the head. We would like to full body vitrify him until we find a cure.

One of the Dictator's Bodyguards just died from an accidental 10mm bullet round to the head. We would like to full body vitrify him until we find a cure.

Confirmed.

I request full body vitrification for 12 people

secret telegram to TGSR: Could we do a full body freeze and a full body vitrification on 2 living people additionally too. Just for experemental reasons. If not, don't worry. Either way, I ask that you keep this confidential.

The first part is confirmed.

Secret reply to the second part:

Germany's laws would classify those acts as "murder", so we cannot. But we can assure you that it would work just as well, if not slightly better.

What would be the costs if we were to buy the technology off you, since vitrification of living people is considered murder, we need to have the technology to vitrify people after reasearch testing to solve dieases and wounds without killing them first.

We really do not like to sell our technology to other countries, but as we can tell you have good intentions, we will allow you domestic-only rights for $1 Billion, which includes the equipment.

IC: Yes, this is for internal use only and will not be used outside of our country or its people. $1,000,000,000 has been wired to you.

The test subjects are going to be tested on everything which we are developing for our storefront, which includes highly toxic and addictive chemicals, we are trying to find away so that they are non-addictive.

Okay, the equipment will be flown on Lufthansa Cargo Airbus A380Fs to you.

thank you, and pre-grats on 1000 posts ^^

Confirmed. (Great excuse to get more posts)

Thank you TGSR.

secret telegram to TGSR: We understand your concern and see how your culture would not see highly to these actions. To maintain secrecy, we will speak no more on this.

We are happy to announce we have full-bodied vitrified our entire architect team for the largest and longest construction project in our nation's history, to keep them alive so that later stages and new sections can be added as need be, and also see a lifetime's work without actually spending a lifetime creating it.

You haven't, by chance, been to www.alcor.org, have you?

You haven't, by chance, been to www.alcor.org, have you?

As a matter of fact I have...

Bump!

Bump!

50% off Christmas special! Makes a great Christmas gift!!!

Anybody get the joke? :)

Is the christmas discount still standing?? ;)

Is the christmas discount still standing?? ;)
Yea.

Bump!

Do you do Whole Body Suspension for dead people if so we will pay you the full price right away for one person.

Do you do Whole Body Suspension for dead people if so we will pay you the full price right away for one person.
Yes, we can do whole body suspension for one person right away.

$120,000 has been wired to you right now. Also may we awaken the people if they were frozen alive at any moment we want to unfreeze them though it takes time to unfreeze people can we start it at anytime is what I mean.

So, I take it you're ordering the frozen method? Sure you don't want them vitrified?