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Due to a recent times it is in the best intrest of Phalanix to begin forming more alliances with other more powerful and feared nations. As a result of being known as a feared and powerful nation and gain the respect that has ben due for some time. Currently Phalanix and Drum Gods have been tlaking and and alliance is in the works at the moment.

OCC:Short and "sweet" I know but it gets the point across. And I got writers block

The situation is as follows the Empire of Drum Gods has returned after a long sabbatical (OOC:Read the factbook) and so we are looking to regain the colonies that we lost long ago. We believe it is in our best interests that together the Empire of Drum God and Phalanix will take the lands they need and split them evenly.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

As a result of this alliance Drumn Gods will be always backed by the full force of the Phalanix military in any occasion and as a way of repesct first has first pick at any land gained after a military opperation.

Subsequently, Phalanix will always be supported by the might of the entire Drum God Empire whenever it should require our assistance.

Our message is clear to the international community. We want land and we are coming to get it.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

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So where first?

I duno. Lets jsut find a war join in and take over one of the nations.

That seems like a feasible plan,

OOC:I am currently modern tech.

OCC:Future but I can down grade to modern tech. Jsut an advantage of being a adaptive future tech naiton.

Something might be going down imminently.

I'm ready for the fun then.

If you notice anything do not hesitate to tell us.

You got it

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What are these lost colonies that you mention?

i wish to join

We got Iraq back as the Silver Turtle, an ally, kept that for us.

But we seek the following colonies which were formerly ours:

Jordan
Syria
Lebanon
Saudi Arabia
Iran

Egypt
Algeria
Morocco
Libya
Eritrea
Sudan
Namibia

The Falklands
Easter Island
The Maldives
French Polynesian Islands
Mauritius
Jamaica
Cuba


Russia
China

Well I'm in good company to do so.

How do you plan to take some of These nations? and Who do u see as presently owning them? or is this List based if its List based who's List is it?

Also why not create an Alliance of Fish Fingers next time.... These Alliances names are starting to get pretty bad!

Dr_Twist.

OOC: I didn't come up with the name. Basically, we'll do our research when we decide we're going to go after a particular colony at a particular time and just see where that takes us. We'll try to take them first via negotiations and then if that fails then through force.

Well Russian Forces has been seen as the Owner of Russia for a very long time and we could guarantee that you would never get Russia off him!

Well we'll see who I go after as I know Russia will probably be the climax. Anyway, I'm very confident we'll get most of our colonies back with the help of Phalanix and our other allies.

from what I see some of those Nations belong to Chellis as well.... this would be interesting as some of these nations you have mentioned are owned by rather powerful nations with a lot of backing.

Dr_Twist.

Well I'm sure it will make for an interesting RP.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

IC:

Sec State Ted Phillips statement

The Government of IDF strongly condemns this action and calls on all nations to condemn this illegal imperialism.

We wish to make a plea to the world calling on all nations to put aside past differences and pressure Drum Gods to stop with his plan for world domination

IDF has reason to feel threatened as our lands in the Sinai are targets.

Given the current threat now before us, we are going to Orange alert for all defensive forces. Any Drum God activities will be closely watched.

We are asking them to reconsider before they become a pariah and start the largest war in NS history.

-drools at the thought of the largest NS war- Now that would be the ultimate landgrabbing war.

We have our list of colonies and together we will get them all. Thank you for highlighting the land you control to us.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

You will not get that land. We will assure you of that. Any invasion of Israeli lands will be met with dire consequences.

We urge you to back off before you make a fatal error here.

Official Statement from The Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

We condemn you, blah blah blah, will stand with ally, blah blah blah, doesn't care because we don't own real world countries, blah blah blah, I r teh 1337357. Good day!
-President Sergei Ilyanov of The Island of Rose

We will defend out lands to the last (that is to say French Polynesia - assuming you're using one of the Earths, which I assume you are...maybe... :confused: ), even if it means use of WMDs for the purpose. We stand by IDF also. They are our staunch allies and comrades, and we'll be damned before we desert them.

Official Statement from the Office of the Executor

Shut it, cretins.

Ordinarily, we wouldn't give a crap about the imperialistic expansionism of others, but you have listed China as a target.

Tyrandis has long since held the eastern provinces, having taken power in the wake of the corrupt communist regime's demise. Do not expect us to tolerate an attack.

We will not stand for the violation of our sovereignity.

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Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of the Imperium

OOC: I was born in Beijing. I don't recognize Earth claims due to the ridiculous influx of things like EARTHS III, IV, V, RL CLAIMS!11!!!!111, so I'll go with that.

Ordinarily, I RP as Cyprus.

We will defend out lands to the last (that is to say French Polynesia - assuming you're using one of the Earths, which I assume you are...maybe... :confused: ), even if it means use of WMDs for the purpose. We stand by IDF also. They are our staunch allies and comrades, and we'll be damned before we desert them.
Thank you for the support DPUO. You are truly a trusted friend.

I will send the 3rd fleet out of Kerguelen to help defend French Polynesia.

Official statement from Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber:

"We condemn the plans of Phalanix and especially Drum Gods in their thinly-veiled attempts to threaten the international community.

"We are particularly disappointed with Drum Gods as a prospective member of the United Medical Alliance. We expected a better standard of behavior from you."

[OOC: I'm exhausted, so pardon the short RP.]

Official Communiqué

We have noticed that the Maldives have been placed on your list of former colonies. We kindly ask that you remove them, and desist from any armed conflict. The Commonwealth does not look well on threats of invasion and attack by nations who claim to be recovering their 'long lost' territories. We ask you to explain why your nations have the right to take without compensation, possessions that are rightly sovereign portions of another country? Granzi has never placed war before diplomacy, but we can not ignore the danger which you and your allies pose.

Regards,

Nathanial Sun
Minister of Foreign Affairs

The Dominion condemns this imperialistic behavior, and notes that numerous of our key allies, as well as our own territories, are listed on your ambitious list.

We will not stand for a violation of any country's sovereignity for the means of imperialistic expansion, and will do whatever is within our power to stop such aggressive behavior.

We also echo IDF's call to unite, and support actions taken by our allies to subdue this worldwide domination you plan to execute.

Robert Abdulla
Minister of Foreign Affairs

The Sultan considered the missive from the Drum Gods, chuckled, then sent a servant to send another package of genuine ganja weed to the poor man.

"Obviously suffering delusions...."


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Official Diplomatic Statement

Vastiva stands with its allies against this attempt at Imperialism.

We note that apparently Dr Twist is supporting the overthrow of Russian Forces. Well, that is their business, not ours: alliances made of paper are usually broken just as easily.

Actions speak louder then words. Ours is to stand up with those we consider allies. We wait to see what Dr Twist and others will do.

Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva

The Sultan considered the missive from the Drum Gods, chuckled, then sent a servant to send another package of genuine ganja weed to the poor man.

"Obviously suffering delusions...."


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Official Diplomatic Statement

Vastiva stands with its allies against this attempt at Imperialism.

We note that apparently Dr Twist is supporting the overthrow of Russian Forces. Well, that is their business, not ours: alliances made of paper are usually broken just as easily.

Actions speak louder then words. Ours is to stand up with those we consider allies. We wait to see what Dr Twist and others will do.

Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva

Where does it say we consider attacking one of my Closest allies? we would never invaded Russian Forces, but we will help protect him from Drum Gods.

Dr_Twist.

Official Diplomatic Response

Drum Gods is a weed. If you nurture its growth, it will strangle you and all you hold dear.


Meditate hard upon the following, for the outcome will spell your future:


First they came for the Jews,
But I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists,
And I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade-unionists,
And I did not speak out,
Because I was not a trade-unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
And I did not speak out,
Because I was not a Catholic.

Then they came for me,
And there was no one left to speak out for me.


Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva

IC:

Weeds?

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

OOC: Every holocaust remembrance day service someone reads that out....

OOC: Yeah, and every year more idiots seem to say "oh well, it could never happen now." They who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it - an old adage but a true one.

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We note that our friends, DPUO and IDF included, have been threatened. Any attack on their territories will result in war, especially Israel. You will not soil the holy land with your imperialistic ways. Remove any territories belonging to IDF or DPUO from your list immediately.

We have not threatened anyone. We just listed the territories that together we seek to reclaim. End of negotiations.


Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

We got Iraq back as the Silver Turtle, an ally, kept that for us.

But we seek the following colonies which were formerly ours:

Jordan
Syria
Lebanon
Saudi Arabia
Iran

Egypt
Algeria
Morocco
Libya
Eritrea
Sudan
Namibia

The Falklands
Easter Island
The Maldives
French Polynesian Islands
Mauritius
Jamaica

Russia
China

OOC: Good luck with that. You'll have to defeat The Evil Overlord, Bob-Bob, Russian Forces, Roycelandia, Chellis, Zarbia, United Elias, Menelmacar, Islamaisbad, Western Asia, Eredron... Not to mention all their allies.

Thank you. I'm sure GDODAD will be most useful here.

Why not just avoid the whole starting a pointless war thing?

OOC: At no point here have I declared that I was starting a war. In fact this thread was a declaration of an alliance between me and phalanix. The list was just so you all if there was a war in the future what the reason would be.

Communication from President Kenny Williams

We have never had a quarrel with Drum Gods or Phalanix. We see no reason why to have one in the future.

But, their idea to recapture lands they claim are theirs is unacceptable and should be reconsidered. We must try and take a deep breath and step back and talk this over.

We would like to have talks with Drum Gods and Phalanix in IDF or in their own nations if they wish to discuss non-aggresion pacts to make sure that the status quo of peace remains.

Our offer is open and if and when you wish to talk with us, we will have open arms.

OCC:Realy I'm just in this aliance to learn from the master of annexing. And the territorys are a added bonuse.

Ahhh, another alliance of Imperialistic swine. How quaint.

Now hear this. The nation of Samtonia will NOT stand idly by to watch its allies be assaulted by an unjust military action. Alliances were made for a reason.

Let it be known to you and your land-hungry Imperialistic friend that ANY and we mean Any attack on Samtonia's allies will be seen as an act of war against Samtonia herself.

We suggest you tread lightly, because it's a long fall to hell.....

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Minister X, Leader of the Samtonian Council of Thirteen

Statement from President Mike Sarzo:


"This 'alliance' you are forming is nothing more than a thinly-veiled threat against the free people in the world and many of our staunchest allies. We warn you both that we will tolerate no such threats to our allies.

"Any attack on any of our allies will be dealt with as severely as an attack upon Sarzonia herself. You must stand down from your threats to take back the territory you wrongly claim is yours. The lives of billions of people are at stake."

[Secret IC: Sarzo announced that the military would go on orange alert and that all reserves would be called up, including the full Navy.]

OOC: At no point here have I declared that I was starting a war. In fact this thread was a declaration of an alliance between me and phalanix. The list was just so you all if there was a war in the future what the reason would be.[OOC: You may not have DECLARED the start of a war in so many words, but announcing that you planned to take territory that was "rightfully yours" is as good as a declaration of war in the eyes of many people in the world. Even in RL countries.

Do you think the U.S. would just meekly give up if Russia decided to claim Alaska because it was "rightfully hers"? Do you think they would just let France have the Louisiana Purchase if they chose to claim it as "rightfully hers"? The U.S. would see it for what it is: A threat against its soverignty and its territory. And they would mobilize for a massive war.

The only difference between those two scenarios and this one is the fact that you are threatening several countries that own the territory you are claiming. And their MANY, POWERFUL allies. You MIGHT be able to overpower one or two smaller countries, but you wouldn't have a prayer if they had all of their friends on their side. It's simple reality: If you attack one country, you're going to piss off its allies enough to retaliate. You might win a battle, but you will lose your war miserably.]

OCC:Why right now is it that I'm basicly being "strung up" when I officaly havn't posted that I would help with the massive annexing but minor things I would. Becasue I know that attacking so many areas is litteraly suicide. I'm just trying something new right now so please do not go off and hang me when it wasn't me saying that I would go off and take voer the world.

[OOC: You may not have DECLARED the start of a war in so many words, but announcing that you planned to take territory that was "rightfully yours" is as good as a declaration of war in the eyes of many people in the world. Even in RL countries.

Do you think the U.S. would just meekly give up if Russia decided to claim Alaska because it was "rightfully hers"? Do you think they would just let France have the Louisiana Purchase if they chose to claim it as "rightfully hers"? The U.S. would see it for what it is: A threat against its soverignty and its territory. And they would mobilize for a massive war.

The only difference between those two scenarios and this one is the fact that you are threatening several countries that own the territory you are claiming. And their MANY, POWERFUL allies. You MIGHT be able to overpower one or two smaller countries, but you wouldn't have a prayer if they had all of their friends on their side. It's simple reality: If you attack one country, you're going to piss off its allies enough to retaliate. You might win a battle, but you will lose your war miserably.]


1) We could take many powerful countries.
2) GDODAD is a mighty powerful alliance.
3) So is Metus.
4) With their help we could destroy almost all alliances.
5) I have no care in the world about the US's foreign policy. It has screwed up most of the world.

1) We could take many powerful countries.
2) GDODAD is a mighty powerful alliance.
3) So is Metus.
4) With their help we could destroy almost all alliances.
5) I have no care in the world about the US's foreign policy. It has screwed up most of the world.

GDODAD couldn't take Russia and the RBA back in 2003 and wouldn't be able to take it Today, Your dreams are Nice but will never Happen as some of the Nations you have Mentioned are also Part of Other Powerful alliances that will take on GDODAD, Such an Imperialistic War wouldn't never be allowed by the high Commands of these alliances and you know this to well.

All i can say is, Bring it on if you are Coming for my Allies as we will be waiting and watching to take on you and your allies.

Dr_Twist.

1) We could take many powerful countries.
2) GDODAD is a mighty powerful alliance.


I highly doubt that GDODAD would support both of you, seeing as I am a member of the alliance.

We got Iraq back as the Silver Turtle, an ally, kept that for us.

But we seek the following colonies which were formerly ours:

Jordan
Syria
Lebanon
Saudi Arabia
Iran

Egypt
Algeria
Morocco
Libya
Eritrea
Sudan
Namibia

The Falklands
Easter Island
The Maldives
French Polynesian Islands
Mauritius
Jamaica


Russia
China

OOC: *wonders what on earth he was smoking and where to import it from*

OCC:Why right now is it that I'm basicly being "strung up" when I officaly havn't posted that I would help with the massive annexing but minor things I would. Becasue I know that attacking so many areas is litteraly suicide. I'm just trying something new right now so please do not go off and hang me when it wasn't me saying that I would go off and take voer the world.

OOC: *thwap* You are known by the company you keep. And saying later "but it wasn't my idea" would just make you look like a nincompoop as well as an imperialist. Best get out of this alliance now.

GDODAD couldn't take Russia and the RBA back in 2003 and wouldn't be able to take it Today, Your dreams are Nice but will never Happen as some of the Nations you have Mentioned are also Part of Other Powerful alliances that will take on GDODAD, Such an Imperialistic War wouldn't never be allowed by the high Commands of these alliances and you know this to well.

All i can say is, Bring it on if you are Coming for my Allies as we will be waiting and watching to take on you and your allies.

Dr_Twist.

Official Diplomatic Correspondance from Vastiva

We do formally applaude Dr Twist and rescind our earlier condemnation.

Sultan Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva

I highly doubt that GDODAD would support both of you, seeing as I am a member of the alliance.


We have been members of GDODAD for a very long time and have their word that we would be defended if we were to be attacked. We have made our intentions clear towards these nations. We have not declared war up on anyone. If we are attacked we have GDODADs word that we would be defended.
Considering we had to fight for all those colonies to get them in the first place we are sure we would be more than capable of doing so should the need for it arise.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

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***Communication from the desk of President Zwimbala of Pacific Northwesteria***
"Friends, citizens, countrymen, we now face a threat beyond the scope of memory. Although Pacific Northwesteria herself is not under threat, we can not stand by and allow imperialism to suffocate our allies, we can not stand by and allow ignoble dictators to conquer the free lands of our friends.
With a heavy heart, I have ordered the activation of Naval forces for the protection of our allies, and our brave men and women in uniform with fight to the last to preserve their freedom."
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To: All allies involved in this conflict
From: PN High Command, encrypted
Please advise gather point for allied fleets. The enemy navies might be able to conquer us one by one, but all together they stand no chance. Adm. Michaels out.
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OOC:
The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Expeditionary Fleets (numbers upon request, but I figure we don't need numberwanking to clutter up this thread) have started sailing tentatively towards the seas of it's allies in China, alerting all nations in China that it was coming to help defend them. If advised of a different gather point, they will of course change course. However, China contains several very strong nations, and so the concentration of force is greatest there.

OOC: Why are you bothering mobilising? It's pretty obvious these two couldn't take the countries they lay a claim to... besides they haven't actually attacked anyone (yet!).

Pacific Northwesteria is far enough out of the way that if war were to start we would be out of position. This is not meant as a belligerent gesture, just a protective shield for my allies.

EDIT: Also, they might not be able to take everything, but they could sure take a bunch before they were stopped. My Navy is there to try to stop them from landing... at least it will have a decent chance of doing that if my allies reinforce my fleets.

We have repeatedly stated that we would welcome peaceful negotiations concerning our claims to the former Imperial colonies. We have not declared war but instead have just made a simple statement reagarding the matter. The use of force would be our last resort and in the distant future if that were the case.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

So far, Pacific Northwesteria has seen a notable lack of diplomacy on your part. You essentially claimed the territories of dozens of nations, but didn't declare war. Ok. Yes, that is possible. However, Pacific Northwesteria has not seen your nation initiate any peaceful means of regaining said land, and we highly doubt that it will work. Especially taking into account the fact that if you attack one territory on your "list of death", everyone else will think they are next and strike back hard and fast.
We're waiting for you to either try (and most likely fail) to negotiate your way back into control over your "colonies", try (and most likely fail) to take them all by force, or take back your outrageous territorial claims. The choice is yours.

We have repeatedly stated that we would welcome peaceful negotiations concerning our claims to the former Imperial colonies. We have not declared war but instead have just made a simple statement reagarding the matter. The use of force would be our last resort and in the distant future if that were the case.

Bureaucrat of the Drum God Empire
A January 2003 Nation

Ab-shalom and greetings;

It is most obvious the world sees your words as the falsehoods they are. And of note, repeating the same lie does not make it true, it merely bores the audience.

Perhaps it would be best to reassess your plans before they are reassessed for you.

Namaste,
General Riva Sola al-Din, Commander
Vastivan Armed Services
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

We support the statements of so many over nations. Any attacks upon my allys or, potentialy, non-allies will result in our unconditional and total support for the defending nation.

OOC: Good luck with that. You'll have to defeat The Evil Overlord, Bob-Bob, Russian Forces, Roycelandia, Chellis, Zarbia, United Elias, Menelmacar, Islamaisbad, Western Asia, Eredron... Not to mention all their allies.
ooc: and since DG must defeat Roycelandia, you should add ALSN to that list - which includes Kryozerkia, who conveniently enough belongs to NATO.

KIAF - Kryozerkia Imperial Armed Forces; Kryozerkia's ground units; modern techs; they have a branch of MS-series AUs (future tech).

OFFICIAL STATEMENT
We condem the actions of Drum Gods and their allies. We will not stand for such forms of aggression, and we keep our forces on high alert. The KIAF is the front line response team and they will take care of DG if they so much as try and touch our allies.