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This alliance, ACA, has been formed to stamp out the threat of communism. Communism is a plauge and it kills its own people, for example Cambodia, The Soviet Union, and Cuba back when it was forming into a communist state. Anyone can join this alliance, but ofcourse communists.

We hereby officially place a Trade Embargo and Economic Sanction on the Sovereign nation of Miltiades, and condemn this alliance.

The Exetonian Empire would like to join this alliance, but first could you please provide us with more information? Many thanks.

Exetonia Erwache!

To Miltiades:

Your ignorance astounds us.

The General Cabinet
Fodmodmadtol

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And why is communism good? Have you ever heard of Cambodia? They took out 1/3 of their population, The Russians had forced labor camps and have to exterminate so many people a month in cities. The Russians also killed Jews and Christians because they wanted to stamp out religion.

1.) This is not RL. Nations are different.

2.) Whats so good about Capitalism? Have you ever heard of Bill Gates? He doesn't work yet he earns the most amount of money than anybody.

Miltiades are no capitalists, we are socialists.

OOC: Umm but for example Stalin's Soviet Union was only a Dictature disguised as Communism.

IC:

As a socialist Nation ourselfs, we hereby place Miltiades under trade embargo. We also hope all other left wing nation's join our embargo.

Goverment of Estholad

You're socialists condemning communism. And as an example, you use Stalinism and talk of Russian gulags in the USSR. USSR meaning...

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Socialists. Condemning Socialism. At least do SOME research before forming a perfectly viable alliance.

Since stupid nations don't usually provide wonderful trading partners or anything other than a population of cannon fodder/food, we hold no interests in trading with you, and have forbade any reference of Militiades for fear of the use of your title causing members of the populance to lose IQ points.

To Miltiades:

Miltiades are no capitalists, we are socialists.

May Aliliah have mercy on your pathetic mind. Socialism and Communism are blood brothers, please read up on Karl Marx. To put it into a perspective you will see clearly though, look at it this way.

Communism, and Socialism, are both Collectivists. What you describe sounds more like Stalinism.

So to repeat ourselves-

Your ignorance astounds us.

The General Cabinet
Fodmodmadtol

As a communist nation, we wish to join this embargo against Militiades.

To Militiades:
Communism is a system derived from the general beliefs of socialism, which, in and of itself, is too vague to be used as a system of government.

We also hearby place a trade embargo on Miltiades goods. We shall also bring this nation before the International and Spread the Red Alliances for alliance wide blockades.

Its really ignorant that there are all these Anti-Communist Alliances around. The Capitalist say we are evil and what not. I have not really seen many Anti-Capitalist Alliances around. Have you? I have seen alliances that are open to only communist and socialist because they protect eachother but, their missions are not to stop capitalism. Their mission is protect one another and to become stronger trade allies.

Spread the Red is an alliance that openly supports communist fighters with supplies. They do not discriminate just against capitalist. They would help communist in any kind of situation.

I am very sick of the discrimination that Capitalist and other dictatorships ,that are Stalinist states, put on us just because we embrace the ideas of Father Marx and Brother Lenin.

We also hearby place a trade embargo on Miltiades goods. We shall also bring this nation before the International and Spread the Red Alliances for alliance wide blockades.

Its really ignorant that there are all these Anti-Communist Alliances around. The Capitalist say we are evil and what not. I have not really seen many Anti-Capitalist Alliances around. Have you? I have seen alliances that are open to only communist and socialist because they protect eachother but, their missions are not to stop capitalism. Their mission is protect one another and to become stronger trade allies.

Spread the Red is an alliance that openly supports communist fighters with supplies. They do not discriminate just against capitalist. They would help communist in any kind of situation.

I am very sick of the discrimination that Capitalist and other dictatorships ,that are Stalinist states, put on us just because we embrace the ideas of Father Marx and Brother Lenin.


Here here!

Perhaps they wouldn't be so against Communism if some Communist nations didn't give such a negative image of it's principles. I mean, supporting rebels/terrorists in other nations is a good example of this in my opinion.

Revolution is a basic part of Communism according to Marx and Engels. In order for communism to work, there needs to be a complete removal of every capitalist establishment and ideal which can only be brought about through revolution.

As my nations motto says we need to KILL OR BE KILLED when it comes to these rouge groups. Just do it!!!!!!!!!! :mp5:

"And why is communism good? Have you ever heard of Cambodia? They took out 1/3 of their population, The Russians had forced labor camps and have to exterminate so many people a month in cities. The Russians also killed Jews and Christians because they wanted to stamp out religion."

Americans almost wiped out the entire population of native individuals because they needed more room. Both the British and Americans employed concentration camps (before the Germans) that caused the unnecessary deaths of many innocent people. Ever hear of the Crusades?

"Perhaps they wouldn't be so against Communism if some Communist nations didn't give such a negative image of it's principles. I mean, supporting rebels/terrorists in other nations is a good example of this in my opinion.."

This isn't something that "only" Communist countries employ. For example, in Afghanistan you had America allied with the Northern Alliance, who were butcherers and rapists. For a very long time support has flowed to those that opposed "the enemy" of the time, regardless of how horribly cruel they were. Hussein, Pinchot, Trujilo, Duvalier, Suharto, etc.

Thier are accounts of socialists being against communists you know, they may share some traits but that doesnt mean thier pro communism.

Oh yea, we dont need your trade, we try to produce our own goods ourselves anyways. A self supporting country is a strong country.

But, you might would have liked the trade with some of my allies. Also, once your on my shit list OR the shit list of Spread the Red. Then you might have a problum.

To Miltiades:
Thier are accounts of socialists being against communists you know, they may share some traits but that doesnt mean thier pro communism.
The idiocy. The irony. The embarrassment.

If you go and dunk your head into the toilet, and start breathing in the water, and do this while listening very carefully, right up untill you drown, you can hear our pity.

Fodmodmadtol

Why would I want to trade with communists or communist sympathisers, PLUS communists arent supposed to trade thier suppost to be self dependant. Also its not idiotcy, Hitler was a National Socialist, He hated communists with a passion, not saying im like Hitler. Mussilini and Franko, both Fascists(a type of socialism) hated communism. Thier was a socialist democrat in the USA who spoke out against communism but was ofcourse pro socialism back in the days of the Reagan Adminstration.

To put it ever so bluntly-

Socialism, is a younger Communism. A Communism that hasn't grown up yet and still pulls the pigtails of little girls that it likes.

Google: Karl marx

National Socialists, and Socialism, have NAUGHT to do with one another.

Yes but now mordern day socialism is different

If you where a Fodian, you would be tried by Chasse Humaine in our courts for the Conviction of Idiocyism, Stubbornism, Annoyanceism, and Bad name givingism.

If you lived in my country you would be exicuted along with your family and close friends.

"Perhaps they wouldn't be so against Communism if some Communist nations didn't give such a negative image of it's principles. I mean, supporting rebels/terrorists in other nations is a good example of this in my opinion.."

This isn't something that "only" Communist countries employ. For example, in Afghanistan you had America allied with the Northern Alliance, who were butcherers and rapists. For a very long time support has flowed to those that opposed "the enemy" of the time, regardless of how horribly cruel they were. Hussein, Pinchot, Trujilo, Duvalier, Suharto, etc.

Actually, I was talking about NS, and yeah, I'll admit that Communists aren't the only people... but then again, "Spread the Red" seems to be about supporting communists terrorists in other nations in order to force their ideals on other nations...

I know of Communist nations who have done wonderful things in Nationstates and have generally upheld a good reputation. I was mearly pointing out that in this fictional world people may not be to anoyed at them if they didn't follow the sterotypes of Russian Communism, which doesn't really follow the ideal Communism was meant to be about...

I'm not against Communism, I think it's a nice idea which can't work in real life because people are naturally selfish... (not to be confused with not being able to work in NS, anything can work in NS because it's fictional) but I'm not getting into a RL discussion about the flaws of Communism. I'm just pointing out that if you want to give Communism a better name, try getting rid of people who copy Russia and fill out the horrible sterotype.