NationStates Jolt Archive


Formation of the Anti-Nazi Pact [ANP]

Hogsweat
02-10-2004, 22:02
For too long now, the Nazi's and Fascists in our world kill their own citizens because of beliefs. Beliefs which, in all actuality, are similar to their own.
This time MUST stop.
I issue a call to all nations, Capitalist, Communist, Liberalist, whichever - we must at all costs strive to defend the people of the Earth [ NS world ] against the Far-Right-Winged Nations.
The main aim of the ANP [Thought of by DPUO]will be:

To intervene where the lives of human beings, guilty of no crime apart from race, religion, or political ideal, are under threat.

Thank you for your time.
-Prime Minister John Brown

Members
Hogsweat [Founder]
DPUO [Co-Founder]
Sudelistan [Hogsweatian Colony(NOT PUPPET)]
Sevaris
Jonothana
IDF
Exetonia Minor
World Wide Allies
Sanctaphranx
Lzech
Great Sixth Reich
Kanabia
Tyrandis
Momanguise
Nova Calabria
Euroslavia
Mcleod03
The Fedral Union
ViZion
Jarridia
DontPissUsOff
02-10-2004, 22:04
Obviously, consider us a member. Because we are.

We wholeheartedly endorse the formation of this fine alliance. Mr. Brown has been awarded the Order of the Red Banner for this service to mankind.
Sudelistan
02-10-2004, 22:07
As Sudelistan is subject to the rule of the Hogsweatian government, we must follow suit, and we apply for membership within the ANP.

Abdul-Hadi, Chieftan of Chieftans,
Abdul-Hadi's Tent,
Somewhere in the Desert of Sudelistan
Hogsweat
02-10-2004, 22:08
Good boy. Your whole nation may now each have a celebratory cookie.
-Prince Dorsal VXIII
Jonothana
02-10-2004, 22:10
We will join as part of our policy.
Hogsweat
02-10-2004, 22:12
Yay.
Grenval
02-10-2004, 22:12
Official Ministry Statement

Would such an alliance call for arms when the aforementioned government punishes select members of select groups with proof of criminal activity?

Samantha Rachel Bafringh
Minister of Foreign Affairs
IDF
02-10-2004, 22:12
I'll join.
Hogsweat
02-10-2004, 22:14
Official Ministry Statement

Would such an alliance call for arms when the aforementioned government punishes select members of select groups with proof of criminal activity?

Samantha Rachel Bafringh
Minister of Foreign Affairs


There would be a call for arms, but it would not be neccessary. Members may chose not to commit military forces.
Prime Minister John Brown

We thank IDF for their wise movement.
Prime Minister John Brown.
Brydog
02-10-2004, 22:18
Count me in, Hogsweat
Hogsweat
02-10-2004, 22:19
Roger Roger.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 12:41
+bumped+
Exetonia Minor
03-10-2004, 12:43
Exetonia, although facist, is not a Nazi nation and would therefor be interested in joining up to such a league. It is our understanding that all Nazis should be tried and imprisoned for their extremist beliefs and that the Araian race is not the 'master race' as they like to call it. Would we be allwed to join.

Yours, Exetoinian Governement, departments for external and internal affairs.
World wide allies
03-10-2004, 12:47
Message From wwa Government headquaters -

Count Us In.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 12:50
Considering your position you seem to be fine. We will let you into the pact.
RE: Exetonia Minor
Prime Minister John Brown

Thank you, WWA.
Prime Minister John Brown
Exetonia Minor
03-10-2004, 12:53
Thank you for acceptance. Yours scincerly, Minister for External affairs
World wide allies
03-10-2004, 12:53
No Problem, Glad to help !.

Telegram me if you need me for anything.
Will the alliance have a forum if we get enough members ?
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 12:54
Sanctaphrax too will join this pact. Nazis have befouled this world for too long.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 12:54
No problem ;)

Yeah, I'll make a forum later.
Brittania - Landser
03-10-2004, 12:58
youre a bunch of fucking retards...
ANP- this stands for American Nazi Party so even if you do succeed, get a new name.
Aryan- not spelled araian
Nazis (myself) have just as much right in what they do as you have in what you do. You punish what you think are threats to your society, and we punish what we feel is a threat to our our society

besides, if it came to war, you know we would kick your asses anyway
Exetonia Minor
03-10-2004, 13:07
(ooc:this is nothing against RL Nazis, if you bare going yo make comments like those please keep them ooc. 2, the oprginisation can have what ever name it likes, it just happens the abbreviation is the same. 3, read my IC response to what i think is your IC response)

IC: Brittania - Landser, you are now considerd black listed by the Government of Exetonia Minor. This means the following.

1: You are considerd hostile
2: All trade to your nation has been stopped
3: Any of your ships caught entering Exetonia Minor territorial waters are subject to the following:

First Offence: Escorted with naval guard to outside of Territorial waters

Second Offence: Escorted to Flamouth Harbour. Vessel deatined. Cargo seized. Crew impriosned for 1 month. Vessel escorted out of exetonian Waters.

Third Offence: Escorted with Naval guard to Falmouth Harbour. Vessel seized. Cargo seized. Crew detained for 1 month. Crew flown to neutral territory for you to pick up

4: Any attempt to stop this will be seen as an act of war.


We implore all nations in the ANP to do the same.

That is all
Doublethinkland
03-10-2004, 13:07
The USS of Doublethinkland would like to give its full support to the ANP. We have weapons and machinery which can be used in time of war if ever needed ;) Also, we would love to become members of this alliance to fight the Extreme-Right-Wing governments which oppress the proletariat in their respective countries and abroad.
The Palladian Technate
03-10-2004, 13:16
The same Hogsweat who started a holocaust-esque campaign in the name of Buddhism is starting an Anti-Nazi Pact? I'm assuming there was a massive change of policy? :D

In the interest of international relations, however, the Palladian Technate will assume that Hogsweat has had a change of heart (or leadership) in forming this pact. Due to the complications of an extra-solar technate (me) joining a presumably earth-based organization, however, the Palladian Technate supports this Pact, but is unable to take part. If a conflict involving the pact's members ever arises, however, we could probably afford to send some ships over to help. We're just... not a member. :D

(OOC: Was there a policy change? Or did someone [presumably a younger sibling] hijack your nation and have fun during the aforementioned campaign?)
Cordella
03-10-2004, 13:17
The Allied States of Cordella support this alliance wholly. We request acceptance and also declare any attack on an allied member of this pact will be duly attacked in return.

Our Armed Forces division commits 100,000 units to any cause this pact may come across.

Sincerely,

Cordella Foreign Council
Exetonia Minor
03-10-2004, 13:19
(ooc:try a maximum of 10,000 troops + support. Unless you are ressurected)

ooc2:My army as a 5 day old september nation is this:

Army:
Exetonian First Armour:
[78] M1A2 Abrams MBTs
[148] M-2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles
[100] M-113A3 Armored Personnel Carrier
[24] M-48 Chapparral Mobile SAM Launcher
[20] HMMWV Avenger Anti-Aircraft Missile System
[40] Crusader Artillery
[20] M-270A1 MLRS Mobile Rocket Launcher
[36] RAH-66 Comanche Helicopters

Airforce:
Exetonian First Airborne:
[10]B-52H Stratofortress
([10]Commerical helicopters fitted to gunships)
[10]F/B-4 Phantom III Fighter Bomber
[10]F/A-117X NightHawk Stealth Fighter

Navy:
Exetonian 1st carrier fleet:
[4] Kitty Hawk AC
[40] F-14
[80] F/A-18
[80] SH-60 Helicopters
Exetonian First Support fleet:
[5] Ticonderoga cruisers
[5] California Cruisers
[10] Slava Cruisers
[10] Fregat II Destroyers
[10] Gepard Frigates

Thats some 16,000 men including logistical support. Im currently running at 2% which will soon expand to 5% due to increases in military spending.
Grothistan
03-10-2004, 13:22
Your organization seems to contradict itself. In the opening statement, it is written that one of the organisations goals is "To defend peoples of the world against Cultural, Political, and Religious persecution in all ways possible and by all means possible."

Yet, a nation that stated: "It is our understanding that all Nazis should be tried and imprisoned for their extremist beliefs."

While wholeheartedly disagreeing with nazis and fascist, i still see it as political persecution to imprison people for having other political beliefs than yourself - Which is exactly what your organizations states that it is against.

If i were you, i would seriously reconsider Exetonia Minors membership of the ANP.

Sincerely,
Edward Williams
President of Grothistan
Chairman of The Grothistanish Party for Socialism and Solidarity
Notquiteaplace
03-10-2004, 13:22
This is a good idea. OI hope this means communists wont be persecuted. Our nation is capitalist but we dont kill our communists, we just continue being democratic and they dont win any elections.

We will sign up to this pact.
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 13:28
youre a bunch of fucking retards...
ANP- this stands for American Nazi Party so even if you do succeed, get a new name.
Aryan- not spelled araian
Nazis (myself) have just as much right in what they do as you have in what you do. You punish what you think are threats to your society, and we punish what we feel is a threat to our our society

besides, if it came to war, you know we would kick your asses anyway
Ah Nazis, you gotta hate 'em:)
So the 4 Nazis on this website would kill... the rest of NS? Bring it on.
If you were to start a thread called "Nazi takes on Anti-Nazi Pact" How many allies do you think you would get?
Un-governable People
03-10-2004, 13:31
To any and all 'real' revolutionary socialists, communists, and anarchists, supporting this proposal would be supporting your own physical destruction.
A policy which goal is stated to be :

"To defend peoples of the world against Cultural, Political, and Religious persecution in all ways possible and by all means possible"

Serves not only to gurantee reddress against nazi and fascist movements, but is also open to manipulation by capitalist and anti-communist/anarchist nations as a justification for invasion of sovereign communist/anarchist/socialist states or territories during periods of revolutionrary class struggle.

Moreover, the ANP is already bankrupt, admitting a 'good' facist government, despite prefacing their original statement with, "the Nazi's and Fascists in our world kill their own citizens because of beliefs. Beliefs which, in all actuality, are similar to their own" followed by, "against the Far-Right-Winged Nations", is a fascist government not 'far-right-winged?' The ANP is a dangerous sham.

The Federation of Un-Governable Peoples strongly urges all revolutionary socialists, communists and anarchists to oppose this pact, and all those who would seek to implement or justify its policies and actions,

-joint statement in solidarity from all citizens of the Federation of Un-Governable People-
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 13:40
Perhaps a clarification is needed of our objectives here.

Nazism is a stain on the planet, in the opinion, certainly, of myself and several others. But I for one allow Nazis to exist in my nation. We have a National Socialist Party. It doesn't gain much support, because it's filled with nutcase racists who will butcher half of the population if they attain power.

That butchery is what this alliance stands to end. The Nazis of NationStates are all too often expansionists, aiming the spread their system to other nations. Nazis persecute people based on religion, race or "reliability," when they have committed no crime. This alliance saims to stop Nazis committing crimes, but not pre-emptively. It is the firm belief, certainly of DPUO, that all people have the right to their beliefs, but Nazi beliefs are all too often translated into Nazi crimes. Put simply, Nazis can exist, as long as they don't do what all the Nazis on NS do, i.e. mass persecution of specific groups for no reason apart from race, belief etc. I know this isn't well-written (I've only just woken up), but I think you get my drift.
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 13:47
Sanctaphrax wouldn't ban a Nazi party if it cropped up, but we have a 65% Jewish, 20% Muslim and 10% Christian. (The other 5% is minorities.) In short, they wouldn't get any votes because in Sanctaphrax, inciting racial hatred is one of the worst crimes earning the convicted a nice 20 years-life sentence. However that is only limited to actual attacks or saying racist things. (We cunningly banned them without making it official so that our political freedoms are still high.)
Un-governable People
03-10-2004, 13:50
You have not adequately addressed the concerns of The Federation in regards to the wording of the preface, that is, "To defend peoples of the world against Cultural, Political, and Religious persecution in all ways possible and by all means possible". To our understanding, such a proposal, most noticeably the 'political' catergory, could be used to justify military action against mass-revolutionary or civil forces, currently, or potentially to be engaged in direct class warfare with exploitative ruling class political elements, that is our concern.

--Joint statement of the Federation of Un-Governable Peoples--
Western Elizabeth
03-10-2004, 13:54
Consider us in. Lets Kill us some Nazis!!!

We offer 2 airbourne infantry divisions, 5 infantry divsions, 2 armoured divisions, 1 carrier task force (1 Nimitz class carrier, 1 Iowa class battleship, 3 Ticonderoga class crusiers, 6 Arleigh Burke class destroyers, 9 ANZAC class frigates and 1 Marine division)
Exetonia Minor
03-10-2004, 14:00
REUTEURS:

Following pleas from the international community both left and right wing alike, Exetonia Minor has decided it prudent to remove itself from the ANP entirely and dis-associate with it. However, Brittania - Landres shall remain on the Exetonian Minor black list untill such a time as he understands the rights of nations to create such pacts and, does not interfere with other nations business' with silly threats of war.

END BROADCAST
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 14:08
You have not adequately addressed the concerns of The Federation in regards to the wording of the preface, that is, "To defend peoples of the world against Cultural, Political, and Religious persecution in all ways possible and by all means possible". To our understanding, such a proposal, most noticeably the 'political' catergory, could be used to justify military action against mass-revolutionary or civil forces, currently, or potentially to be engaged in direct class warfare with exploitative ruling class political elements, that is our concern.

--Joint statement of the Federation of Un-Governable Peoples--

Look, don't as me, I just work here. If it were up to me, the aim of this group would be

"To intervene where the lives of human beings, guilty of no crime apart from race, religion, or political ideal, are under threat."

I realise that this could well be seen as an anti-Left Wing group. However, I would argue that true Left-Wingers should not be seeking to execute humans purely for political ideals. They should be seeking, perhaps, to reconcile them or to defeat them democratically.

I don't know, perhaps a more suitable aim would simply be

"To protect the peoples of the world from persecution at the hands of the Far Right Wing, by any means necessary, including armed force."

You'd have to get onto Hog about it basically.
Arenumberg
03-10-2004, 14:15
OOC: Araian is plural, is it not?

IC:

"It is within the best interests of the ESUA to join this Pact"
Peoples Office of Foreign Relations
Iuthia
03-10-2004, 15:08
I'm not going to get into the Nation Soveriegnity issues that such an alliance would raise in it's actions as we couldn't really care too much about nations which kill off certain races in their populace... half the time they seem to do it for attention in anycase.

However, we do ask that if you are going to try and stop such attrocities you at the very least conduct yourselve properly while doing so. By this I mean:

> Start with diplomacy, without the threats if you can, but hint that you cannot and will not sit back and watch such attrocities be commited.

> Failing that, step up the situation, but continue to offer diplomacy while preparing for action, assuming you are willing to use action (never threaten action unless you are actually willing, or you will loose respect should someone call you out).

> Assuming all diplomacy fails, continue to start military action with the conciderations of their civilian populace... if you are going to have a war against facists then you want to keep the moral high ground. If you don't conduct your own wars with honor then your alliance will mean shit to us.

Of course, we don't like that such an alliance will attempt to police the world, especially seeing as some of Iuthia's latest connections are finding more immoral nations. However if you are going to incist on trying then at least heed our warning.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Notquiteaplace
03-10-2004, 15:10
[QUOTE=DontPissUsOff]lots of stuff[QUOTE]

true. No one should suffer for their beliefs, we should first deliver an ultimatum. (which is still much more oppressive than what we consider respectful, but at least its a compromise that doesnt kill anyone making a point and leaves people unmolested if they dont bother anyone else)

If it is for belief or politics they shpould be allowed to remain un molested as long as they dont bother anyone else. Those who cause protest or cause trouble (without commiting a crime beyond political protest) (ie marching) or suchlike should be given the option to leave as below or stop.

NQP has a possible alternative, whereby the nation finds the unwanted people a new home, in a world like NS there is about 10 nations for every shade of ideology, so its not hard. Of course losing everything and starting afresh would be suffering for their beliefs, the nation in question should allow them a FAIR price for the sale of anything they cant take with them, allowing them to start afresh, (ie if they had a house they get money so they can afford an new one) they should be given time to find a job and it should eb ensured they speak the nation's language.

Naturally this should only be seen as the last option before we force them to stop.

Though in an ideal world none of these sort of compromises would be necessary.
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 15:20
Please bear in mind all that every contribution is appreciated, and that all this is helping to hammer out an aim and a modus operandi.

Iuthia, of course that is the method we'll be following, as far as I know. Negotiation is always preferable to war, no?

NQAP: Same sort of thing.

Keep the comments etc coming, they're all going into the foaming bubbling cauldron of my head. :)
Iuthia
03-10-2004, 15:26
"Negotiation is always preferable to war, no?"

Alas thats not always the case in International Incidents... just make sure that your members know that as alot of nations sometimes ignore such things, which would result in your alliance looking like a bunch of warmongers. I know that the majority of you should know this, but I post it for those who don't and will need to pay attention if they want to be respected for that they do.

Additionally... Iuthia won't remain supportive if members start annexing nations for their empire while claiming to be "improving world civil rights" I've seen that before and it's something Iuthia is far from keen on.
Psov
03-10-2004, 15:55
after careful consideration, the republic has decided to join the ANP
Jonothana
03-10-2004, 16:06
Does imperialism count as opression? We beleive it does.
Unified Sith
03-10-2004, 18:56
“Mein Fuhrer, it seems there is a large Anti Nazi alliance is being formed against us.”

“Will they ever learn? You can’t defeat an ideology, it will always remain, why don’t they see it?”

“I really don’t know.”

“Got HIM. HA! The little rascal tried to hide behind the mound of sand, but never fear the discs got him.”

“Yes, so I see.”

The Fuhrer pulled away from his WW1 replica machine gun and laughed at the Jewish body lying in the sand of the slaughter arena.

“It would be a shame to let his corpse go to waste wouldn’t it?”

“Well yes, but what can you do with a dead body Mein Fuhrer.”

“Hmmm, have the head removed and send it to the Hogsweatian leader. Let us show them what we think of their pathetic “alliance” Second thoughts slaughter a few more Jews and send their heads to all the leaders of the alliance."

The heads were later removed from the corpses and upon them the star of David was drawn, the heads were later dispatched to the Hogsweatian nation and the fellow members of the "Alliance".
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 19:09
OOC: You're a pillock, mate.

IC: The heads were sent back, with strange symbols carved into the skull, and as many bacteria as could be bred feeding on the decaying flesh.
The Great Sixth Reich
03-10-2004, 19:13
We'll join...

:)
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 19:19
OOC: That's just ironic :D
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 19:20
Sanctaphrax recommend that Unified Sith be our first oponents for this gross mistreatment of Jews, and that we cut of the soldiers heads and mail it to the families.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 19:37
OOC: Thats really lame, you do understand that?

Dorsal laughed heartily as he received the "presents".
"Give them a proper Jewish burial. Bring to me the leaders of the Hogsweatian National Workers Union."

Not so long later, the four men were dragged into Emperor Dorsal's chamber.
"General Tunnelpay, do your job."

Tunnelpay was brandishing a rather large axe - bringing it up, he chopped off the heads of the HNWU leaders, one by one with ease. Dark crimson blood splattered over the once clean Royal rugs, bought by a Sudelistani trader on the Emperor's last visit.
"Excellent work. Now, continue"

The heads were taken to an ex-inquisition torture room, where the words SCUM were scalded into their foreheads. The bodies were disposed of, and the four heads mailed to Unified Sith's fuhrer.
IDF
03-10-2004, 19:44
I would like to attack Sith, but he is a godmodder.
Rainbows of peace
03-10-2004, 19:48
yes rainbows of peace wholeheartedly wishes to join this anp or sign up which ever.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 19:49
Ok rainbows of peace is in.
Lzech
03-10-2004, 19:50
The People's Republic of Lzech is most interested in joining this alliance.
Rainbows of peace
03-10-2004, 19:55
score! i must tell you that the citezens of rainbows of peace may not wish to fight themselves but we will donate any supplies necessary for smashing the nazi scum
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 19:58
Lzech we support your entry. Approved.


Thank you, people of Rainbows of Peace.
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 20:15
Sanctaphranx
Sanctaphrax, please.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 20:21
oh, sorry.
Jackdonia
03-10-2004, 20:25
To:Hogsweat
From:Jackdonia
We would like to be in the pact,as we belive the ideals of this pact suit us wonderfully.
Hogsweat
03-10-2004, 20:39
To: Jackdonia
From: Hogsweat
Naturally. You are approved for entry.
Jackdonia
03-10-2004, 20:44
To:Hogsweat,and the ANP Pact.
We have found evidence that there are Nazis in my country,and i need help getting rid of them.
Jonothana
03-10-2004, 21:26
OOC: Thats really lame, you do understand that?

Dorsal laughed heartily as he received the "presents".
"Give them a proper Jewish burial. Bring to me the leaders of the Hogsweatian National Workers Union."

Not so long later, the four men were dragged into Emperor Dorsal's chamber.
"General Tunnelpay, do your job."

Tunnelpay was brandishing a rather large axe - bringing it up, he chopped off the heads of the HNWU leaders, one by one with ease. Dark crimson blood splattered over the once clean Royal rugs, bought by a Sudelistani trader on the Emperor's last visit.
"Excellent work. Now, continue"

The heads were taken to an ex-inquisition torture room, where the words SCUM were scalded into their foreheads. The bodies were disposed of, and the four heads mailed to Unified Sith's fuhrer.


((OOC: Wha?!?))
Iuthia
04-10-2004, 01:24
As much as nations like Communist Louisiana anoys me... I find that in the following situation I support them against a possible members for this alliance:

Source (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362570&page=1&pp=15)

Basically in the above link, Jackdonia threatens to bomb Communist Louisiana's voodoo churches because they believe that "Voodoo" is evil and must be destroyed... in fact they seem to go as far to suggest that they specifically kill people who practice voodoo in the same manner one might expect from a Nazi killing someone who is Jewish.

I kill anyone the practices Voodoo and so should you, if you dont I will do it for you.

As such, we much ask you if it's such a wise choice to allow such a nation into your alliance to fight facism if they themselves are threatening other nations and killing off people who follow a certain religion... I can't help but feel such a nation would only damage your reputation as a serious anti-nazi alliance.
Jackdonia
04-10-2004, 01:27
I wont do it again,because i have made a public aplogy!
Iuthia
04-10-2004, 01:34
Meh, so long as you learn your lesson and you appease Communist Louisiana for your actions against their nation then meh, it's up to Hogsweat and the others on what should happen.

I'm mearly pointing out as a interested observer of this alliance that one of their members has pretty much done something which could have damaged his alliances reputation.
Tyrandis
04-10-2004, 01:43
The Militant Imperium will gladly join this alliance, even if we are somewhat apprenhensive about standing with communists.

Of course, as much as Tyrandis finds communism distasteful, it is outstripped by far by our sheer hate of National Socialism.

Count us in with arms and blood.
The Great Sixth Reich
04-10-2004, 02:54
We'll join...

:)

Well?
Un-governable People
04-10-2004, 05:12
Meh, so long as you learn your lesson and you appease Communist Louisiana for your actions against their nation then meh, it's up to Hogsweat and the others on what should happen.

I'm mearly pointing out as a interested observer of this alliance that one of their members has pretty much done something which could have damaged his alliances reputation.

It is because of this this non-chalant attitude to an issue of such importance and danger, that the Federation of Un-Governable Peoples strongly condemns not only the language of the pact, but also the member who wish to abide by it. We echo your concern over the admission of a butchers, such as the government of Jackdonia, and abhor the conciliatory approach taken towards known fascists, nazis and architects of genocide. The Federation is appalled at such indifference, speaking as long-time victims and enemies of both the Nazi & Fascist movements, in our own and surrounding territory, we fail to understand how an anti-nazi pact can be formed with ANY legitimacy when it counts amongst its members, not only fascists, but known perpetrators of genocide, such as Jackdonia.

We implore all nations considering joing the ANP, be fully aware and to consider the consequences of being alligned with such genocidal, racist and authoritarian regimes.

--Joint statement of the Federation of Un-Governable People--
Iraqstan
04-10-2004, 09:52
Open transmission to members of the Anti-Nazi Pact

I do not know which is funnier, the pack of war mongering dogs that think they have the right to impose foreign laws upon sovreign nations on a single whim, or the so called national socialists that appear upon the radars of would be 'liberators'.

It is with great pleasure that I Muhammed-Saeed-Al-Sahaf speak for the Führer of the National Socialist Union of Iraqstan when I say you are no more than useless infidels to our greater cause and prove once and for all that racial supremacy rests in the hands of the enlightened and pure of Iraqstan.

You cower behind your gathered threats of force and expect to over-whealm all sovreignly lawful nations because you feel political beliefs should be dictated by others to others. You feel the need to harras and undoubtedly kill those whose political opinions differ from yours.

You my friends are nazi in the way you wish to prosecute those that clash with your ideology. You are hypocrits and the Union will continue to view you as hypocrits for eternity. The foolish pigs that have followed you into this cess pool of illegitimate self wankage have proven they are inferior to the peoples of Iraqstan completely and foolishly.

We look forward to the day someone with more of a care about the happenings of petty little nations such as you are raises your countries to the ground and slaughters your women and children like pigs in the night.

We bid you a fond farewell for that day.

With Regards,
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Spaar/Nationstates/muhammed.jpg
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Iraqstani Information Minister
Momanguise
04-10-2004, 10:12
We will gladly join this alliance.
Orange state
04-10-2004, 10:31
EDIT: wrong nation.. should be NWP.


Open transmission to members of the Anti-Nazi Pact

I do not know which is funnier, the pack of war mongering dogs that think they have the right to impose foreign laws upon sovreign nations on a single whim, or the so called national socialists that appear upon the radars of would be 'liberators'.

It is with great pleasure that I Muhammed-Saeed-Al-Sahaf speak for the Führer of the National Socialist Union of Iraqstan when I say you are no more than useless infidels to our greater cause and prove once and for all that racial supremacy rests in the hands of the enlightened and pure of Iraqstan.

You cower behind your gathered threats of force and expect to over-whealm all sovreignly lawful nations because you feel political beliefs should be dictated by others to others. You feel the need to harras and undoubtedly kill those whose political opinions differ from yours.

You my friends are nazi in the way you wish to prosecute those that clash with your ideology. You are hypocrits and the Union will continue to view you as hypocrits for eternity. The foolish pigs that have followed you into this cess pool of illegitimate self wankage have proven they are inferior to the peoples of Iraqstan completely and foolishly.

We look forward to the day someone with more of a care about the happenings of petty little nations such as you are raises your countries to the ground and slaughters your women and children like pigs in the night.

We bid you a fond farewell for that day.

With Regards,
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Spaar/Nationstates/muhammed.jpg
Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Iraqstani Information Minister

I see your point, but speak up for my nation in saying the following.

No we arent persecuting for ideaology. Just for actions, like killing people. The moment a nazi country is attacked for merely being so, We leave. (OOC: but in NS that would also be when pigs fly)

Notquiteaplace has always respected the sovereignity of nations who respect human rights.
Bob-Bob
04-10-2004, 12:35
The Great and all-mighty state of Bob-Bob views this alliance with some distaste and repugnance. You will cease your militant efforts of Imperialism or you will have to answer for your crimes upon sovereign states. Like it or not a nation can do whatever it damn well wants with it’s populace. Do not force me to make an example.
Guffingford
04-10-2004, 13:07
The whole concept of an "anti-nazi alliance" is repulsive and completely flawed. We, the peoples of Guffingford, agree with our national socialist friends Iraqstan and Bob-Bob. Our standards and moralities may seem strange and unfamiliar to your uncivilized eyes but we have as much right to pursue national socialism and you may do with communism.
Momanguise
04-10-2004, 13:18
From what I can observe this alliance appears to be orientated to stopping National Socialist (I hate the term Nazi, so crude) imperial expansion. Of course, if I am wrong please correct me and I will sink into quiet obscurity.
Kanabia
04-10-2004, 13:20
I'm in, Hogsweat.
Nova Calabria
04-10-2004, 13:23
With Honor, I'm in.
Jonothana
04-10-2004, 16:27
I think there should be a conference of some sort to decide the purpose of the pact, what should the circumstances be for us to declare war, and possibly a new name. Such as anti - genocide pact or something like that.

Also we should elect some sort of council.
Jonothana
04-10-2004, 16:59
Jackdonia has now supported the unfair killing of low-level criminals:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=362731
Jackdonia
04-10-2004, 17:34
I am leaving this pact,because they say i support unfair killing of crimnals,but they are lying,so i am leaving this pact of liars and i might be a communist soon.
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 17:36
Right... one person accused you of that and you leave because "we are lying", even thought only one person has said anything about the matter. You also say you might be a communist soon, except the ANP is Communist friendly [Capitalist friendly too, obviously].

I am in the process of making a forum. You will all be sent a TG, and if you don't post on votes for action, then that is your fault for not registering.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 17:50
This pact sounds interesting...
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 17:53
The official ANP Forum is located at

http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_AntiNazi_Pact/index.php?act=idx

Register and I will validate you.

Euroslavia: Thinking of joining?
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 18:08
Yes, I am considering joining this pact. It's been a while since I've joined an alliance (NATO), and normally, I'm very hesitant about dedicating myself to an alliance, due to the amount of nations who have decided to join. However, this Pact does look like it has a lot of potential, and I may consider joining it.
Iuthia
04-10-2004, 18:14
However, this Pact does look like it has a lot of potential, and I may consider joining it.

It does?
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 18:19
It does?


The only thing I may have a problem with is the actual interpretation of exactly when the alliance has the right to go into a nation and save its people. Normally, Euroslavia is a very passive nation, that doesn't interfere with the policies of another sovereign nation.
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 18:23
You wouldn't have to violate the sovereignty yourself. It would be [And is] choice.
Jonothana
04-10-2004, 18:43
I am leaving this pact,because they say i support unfair killing of crimnals,but they are lying,so i am leaving this pact of liars and i might be a communist soon.

I was not lying, and was just making other members aware of what Jackdonia is still doing. I view these battles as an unfair way for people to be killed.

And I also view supplying tanks to this as support of it.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 18:53
You wouldn't have to violate the sovereignty yourself. It would be [And is] choice.


In that case we will join, BUT we reserve the right to withdrawal from the Pact at anytime, if we see that the Pact is overstepping its boundaries.
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 18:54
Euroslavia, you would reserve the right anyway. Good decision. Please register on forum:http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_AntiNazi_Pact/index.php?act=idx
Jackdonia
04-10-2004, 19:37
I am rejoining this pact,after much consideration, and i am sorry. but i am still sending tanks though.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 20:35
I am rejoining this pact,after much consideration, and i am sorry. but i am still sending tanks though.

We must vehemently protest the acceptance of Jackdonia into this alliance. This nation is unstable, changing its mind on practically everything that it incurs, and has threatened the people of CL who practice voodoo. There are certain things that should never be overlooked, and this is one of them. The alliances' reputation will be permanently scarred in such an acceptance.
Sanctaphrax
04-10-2004, 20:37
We must vehemently protest the acceptance of Jackdonia into this alliance. This nation is unstable, changing its mind on practically everything that it incurs, and has threatened the people of CL who practice voodoo. There are certain things that should never be overlooked, and this is one of them. The alliances' reputation will be permanently scarred in such an acceptance.
I believe that this pact should only have one criteria, if he is against Nazis then he should be allowed to join.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 20:42
I believe that this pact should only have one criteria, if he is against Nazis then he should be allowed to join.

Any nation can then join, proclaiming that they are against Nazi's. I believe that there should be a certain extent to which we accept members, not necessarily an RP check, thats a little too detailed, but we shouldn't accept members who would severely tarnish our reputation and put our alliance at a big risk when it comes to the Alliances' place in NS. For an alliance to successfully work, it needs to be taken seriously, and a nation such as Jackdonia will give many nations a reason to not do so.
Kriegorgrad
04-10-2004, 20:54
From what I read from the description, this is more of an "anti-naughty-genocide" alliance? Is it anti-genocide or anti-nazi? I just want this cleared up for future reference.
Sanctaphrax
04-10-2004, 20:58
Any nation can then join, proclaiming that they are against Nazi's. I believe that there should be a certain extent to which we accept members, not necessarily an RP check, thats a little too detailed, but we shouldn't accept members who would severely tarnish our reputation and put our alliance at a big risk when it comes to the Alliances' place in NS. For an alliance to successfully work, it needs to be taken seriously, and a nation such as Jackdonia will give many nations a reason to not do so.
But we know that Jack isn't a Nazi. I think that an RP check would be good, if only to find out whether a nation is Nazi or not.
Kriegorgrad
04-10-2004, 21:08
Also, I happened to notice one; Great Sixth Reich, is in this alliance, an anti nazi alliance, strange considering he is also in the Right Wing Alliance. The Right Wing Alliance is home to many a rightwinger, such as: Capitalists, Fascists and...c'mon! guess: Nazis.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 21:12
But we know that Jack isn't a Nazi. I think that an RP check would be good, if only to find out whether a nation is Nazi or not.


Nevertheless...Jackdonia will tarnish the Alliances' reputation.
Jackdonia
04-10-2004, 21:18
I am against Nazis!

If i had a bad RP History its because im new,and im learning,so cut some slack on me okay?
Bob-Bob
04-10-2004, 21:24
OOC: Guys if you attack someone just because they're a Nazi nation, I will have to go against you. And therefore so will my allies.
Sanctaphrax
04-10-2004, 21:26
OOC: Guys if you attack someone just because their a Nazi nation, I will have to go against you. And therefore so will my allies.
Are you a Nazi???
You attacked Unified Sith so I didn't think so but hey!
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 21:27
OOC: Guys if you attack someone just because their a Nazi nation, I will have to go against you. And therefore so will my allies.

Just because you're a Feb 2003 nation, doesn't exactly mean you can just throw yourself into any conflict, knowing that your nation is bigger than the majority of nations out there. You need to watch yourself. Personally, it is my biggest pet pev when nations like you do this.

If you continue to make your empty threats, many people will see this, and a coalition is likely, to 'pop' your ego. I suggest you step down.
Bob-Bob
04-10-2004, 21:29
Bob-Bob is a nation devoted to world security. Which means we will pick on those who are being Jerks, and we will help those no matter their ideology if their nation is under an unfair attack. Bob-Bob is the new II peacekeeper.
Euroslavia
04-10-2004, 21:33
Any nation who would say that, especially after declaring their hatred for another nation (Sparten and UF) is a hypocrite, calling themselves a peacekeeper, yet saying certain things to create more enemies (posting in here). You are anything but a peacekeeper.
Bob-Bob
04-10-2004, 21:35
Just because you're a Feb 2003 nation, doesn't exactly mean you can just throw yourself into any conflict, knowing that your nation is bigger than the majority of nations out there. You need to watch yourself. Personally, it is my biggest pet pev when nations like you do this.

If you continue to make your empty threats, many people will see this, and a coalition is likely, to 'pop' your ego. I suggest you step down.

OOC: If this alliance declares war without due reason, Bob-Bob will help those if they request help. My threats are not empty, test me and you will see how empty threats bring ruin upon your alliance.

That is all i will say on the matter, but i won't have this alliance stomping around like GDODAD used to do.
Neu Albion
04-10-2004, 21:39
Neu Albion would like membership in the ANP - Prime Minister Patrick Connah.
The Great Sixth Reich
04-10-2004, 22:18
I think there should be a conference of some sort to decide the purpose of the pact, what should the circumstances be for us to declare war, and possibly a new name. Such as anti - genocide pact or something like that.

Also we should elect some sort of council.

Yes, I agree. Because right now we would be supporting the genocide of National Socialists because of their beliefs, and that's not much worse than killing Jews.

And I'm not kidding about joining this...
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 22:21
TG6R: I Added you to the front page members list, lol.
Doomingsland
04-10-2004, 22:22
OOC:Hogsweat, post at the thread were you're sending ships at me!
Hogsweat
04-10-2004, 22:24
OOC: Oi! You've got my men. I WANT THEM BACK.
Jonothana
04-10-2004, 22:43
See, if we had a council we could decide whether to let Jack. in or not. And I believe we should be anti - human rights abuses, not anti Nat. Soc./ Nazi.

Also Jack., this, this, and this is better than this,this,and this.

((Put spaces after your commas.))
The Great Sixth Reich
04-10-2004, 22:59
See, if we had a council we could decide whether to let Jack. in or not. And I believe we should be anti - human rights abuses, not anti Nat. Soc./ Nazi.

Also Jack., this, this, and this is better than this,this,and this.

((Put spaces after your commas.))

Agreed.
DontPissUsOff
04-10-2004, 23:29
Yes, a damn good idea methinks. Another thing to get sorted eh?
Sanctaphrax
04-10-2004, 23:31
I agree with the council idea.
Jonothana
05-10-2004, 07:29
And the commas idea for Jack.... ;)

Anyway, a council is what we need but currently I am having trouble with my account.
Jonothana
05-10-2004, 07:30
Invisinfree account that is.
Hogsweat
05-10-2004, 07:34
I agree too. Forum is here: http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_AntiNazi_Pact/index.php?act=idx
where the council is located.
Jackdonia
05-10-2004, 15:48
Okay,I am sorry for my crimes and I will repent.

OOC:Like this, this, and this?
Ankhmet
05-10-2004, 16:30
ooc:For the commas, it should actually be this, this and this.
Tiborita
05-10-2004, 17:52
ooc:For the commas, it should actually be this, this and this.
(OOC) This is common, yet incorrect. The correct way to write it is this, this, and this, unless you were saying this and this to someone named this (This, this and this).

The more you know...
http://www.swcp.com/info/essays/serial-comma.htm
http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#2
Jackdonia
05-10-2004, 17:59
OOC:Like this, this and this?
I will formally stop these crimes!
Tiborita
05-10-2004, 18:09
(OOC) No, you have it right here:
OOC:Like this, this, and this?
Jonothana
05-10-2004, 19:48
Hmmm. See I got taUGHT NOT TO PUT COMMAS IN FROMNT OF AND.

And also caps lock gets hit sometimes :mad:
The Great Sixth Reich
05-10-2004, 20:36
Also, I happened to notice one; Great Sixth Reich, is in this alliance, an anti nazi alliance, strange considering he is also in the Right Wing Alliance. The Right Wing Alliance is home to many a rightwinger, such as: Capitalists, Fascists and...c'mon! guess: Nazis.

Considering my nation is Right Wing, Capitalist, and Fascist, doesn't that Alliance suit me well? Oh yea, my nation is not National Socalist controled. The current party is the Protecterism Republicans.
Kriegorgrad
05-10-2004, 21:05
That doesn't make sense, so one minute, you are rubbing shoulders with nazis and the next your waving the red flag yelling "DEATH TO THE NAZIS!" ect. ect.
Tiborita
05-10-2004, 21:09
Hmmm. See I got taUGHT NOT TO PUT COMMAS IN FROMNT OF AND.
I noticed you are Scottish, so I did a quick search. It appears Brithish English does not always use the serial comma. Being an American, I use American style guides as a reference. I still favor the use of the serial comma, as it eliminates the possibility for confusion.

"For example, if you were to write 'He studied Roman history, international politics and economics' it is not obvious whether international refers only to politics or also to economics. Putting the serial comma in removes that doubt."
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-oxf1.htm


"The menu for the class picnic will feature green beans, stewed apples, macaroni and cheese, and okra and tomatoes.

With the serial comma, the reader can tell easily that the class ate four different dishes, not five or six, as may have been construed without that last comma. "


"Mrs. Jones left all her money to her three children: Huey, Dewey and Louie.

Without the serial comma, the sentence does not clearly indicate that the three children are to be given equal shares of the inheritance. Quite possibly (especially if Huey were a jerk), Huey would get half the money, and Dewy and Louie would have to split the other half."
http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/021201.htm

In Britian, the serial comma is called the Oxford comma, as the Oxford University Press appears to be in favor of its use. Other British style guides do not enforce this use. It appears to be an optional rule for British English. American style guides, however, agree that the serial comma should be used, except for newspaper style guides, which favor no comma (they tend to follow rules which favor the printed page).
The Great Sixth Reich
05-10-2004, 21:25
That doesn't make sense, so one minute, you are rubbing shoulders with nazis and the next your waving the red flag yelling "DEATH TO THE NAZIS!" ect. ect.

"Rubbing shoulders?" We don't have almost no content with any other German, let alone National Socialist nations. We view genocide as a stupid way of getting rid of people and always have. And your last comment was out of place, read my other posts in this topic...
Hogsweat
05-10-2004, 22:21
G6R, your registration was approved.
Kriegorgrad
06-10-2004, 16:22
You have contact by sharing an alliance with nazis! And also, in your signature, when referring to "The Anti Genocide Pact", is that this alliance or something else completely?

Actually...I'm not bothered, your posts aren't even consistent.
Sanctaphrax
06-10-2004, 16:59
G6R, your registration was approved.
I registered about 4 days ago and my registration hasn't been approved yet!
Hogsweat
06-10-2004, 17:12
It is. =)
Jonothana
06-10-2004, 20:14
Whatsthe stance on Jackdonia? He isn't on the members list yet he rejoined and hasn't been formally expelled.
The Great Sixth Reich
06-10-2004, 20:46
You have contact by sharing an alliance with nazis! And also, in your signature, when referring to "The Anti Genocide Pact", is that this alliance or something else completely?

Actually...I'm not bothered, your posts aren't even consistent.

Racist.

Germans are Nazis. But not all Germans are Nazi. My nation is that later. It's based on the Second Reich of Germany. Look at my flag! And my posts show that I'm a strong supporter of human rights, if you actually took the time to look. I militarly supported the slave revolt in the Lightning Star and protected the slaves from the following civil war, I was the first one to call and host a peace conference on Feminany, and I opposed Slaver's Point with a naval blockade.

The reason I'm in the Right Wing Collective is because it's the only Republican Alliance. And my nation is Republican controled.

If you can't accept that my nation is not a Nazi nation because we're Republican Germans, fine with me... And the "Anti-Genocide Pact" refers to this pact.
Sanctaphrax
06-10-2004, 22:13
Whatsthe stance on Jackdonia? He isn't on the members list yet he rejoined and hasn't been formally expelled.
Let him join... if something happens and you think that he needs to be expelled then he can face a council.
DontPissUsOff
06-10-2004, 22:18
What I find interesting, G6R, is that you're a member of both Spread the Red AND Stop the Red...:D
Sanctaphrax
06-10-2004, 22:21
It isn't working... I can't log in. Any suggestions?
Jonothana
06-10-2004, 22:22
Dear dear. People are getting things wrong.

TG6R: What you mean to say is, Nazis are German. But not all Germans are Nazi.

Also I beleive we should let Jack. in, make sure he improves his grammar and doesn't reoffend.
Kriegorgrad
07-10-2004, 21:41
Racist.

Germans are Nazis. But not all Germans are Nazi. My nation is that later. It's based on the Second Reich of Germany. Look at my flag! And my posts show that I'm a strong supporter of human rights, if you actually took the time to look. I militarly supported the slave revolt in the Lightning Star and protected the slaves from the following civil war, I was the first one to call and host a peace conference on Feminany, and I opposed Slaver's Point with a naval blockade.

The reason I'm in the Right Wing Collective is because it's the only Republican Alliance. And my nation is Republican controled.

If you can't accept that my nation is not a Nazi nation because we're Republican Germans, fine with me... And the "Anti-Genocide Pact" refers to this pact.

Jesus Christ, now I am bothered, it takes someone pretty damn retarded to get my full attention. Now, point out where I said you were nazi because you're german...oh wait, I didn't say that did I? strike one. Also, the Right Wing Collective harbours Fascists, Nazis and all other genocidal regimes. Strike two

Also, why should I "research" into you for the sake of a petty argument when I can make my point with what I have?

Do I really have to find another reason for strike 3? Can't be bothered.

Strike three and YOUR OUT!
El Nacho
07-10-2004, 22:11
[QUOTE=Hogsweat]For too long now, the Nazi's and Fascists in our world kill their own citizens because of beliefs. Beliefs which, in all actuality, are similar to their own.
This time MUST stop.
I issue a call to all nations, Capitalist, Communist, Liberalist, whichever - we must at all costs strive to defend the people of the Earth [ NS world ] against the Far-Right-Winged Nations.

omfg you motherfucking hypocrits. listen to urselves. you say that we nazis kill ppl because of their beliefs (which we do) but now, it has gone to a far lesser extent than you all know. but u know wut? right now, you all are doing the same thing. you are killing us nazis for what we believe in. wut do u call that? we are not looking for a fight, so let us be. and also, if you killed half of the world's nazis, you would kill off way more than we killed during WWII. Face it, we've got you outnumbered, so give it up. :upyours:
Jonothana
07-10-2004, 22:14
I think that could be counted as flaming..?
The Parthians
08-10-2004, 01:20
OOC: Just a question, Do you find Ultra-Right Wing Benevolent Dictatorships to be enemies? Parthia does not pursecute anyone for religious beliefs or race, but we do on occasion crack down on dissedents.
Vas Pokhoronim
08-10-2004, 03:48
To His Excellency John Brown, Prime Minister of Hogsweat
The Democratic Republic of Vas Pokhoronim has always stood fast in forceful opposition to right-deviationists, racial hygienists, and other reactionary elements, consistent with our firmly held conviction that the future must wrest itself free from being mired in the prejudices of the past. Therefore, the Sovereign People of Vas Pokhoronim have directed me to support, with whatever capacities our small nation may command, the noble aims of the ANP.
Sincerely,
Patriot-General Vkhled Kznynsky, Supreme Leader and Guardian of the Revolution
Palzir
08-10-2004, 04:12
As leader of the Country of Palzir, I wholeheartedly endorse and extend my hand to this movement.

You can run, but you'll only die tired. :sniper:
Soviet leaders
08-10-2004, 04:36
I'll join I HATE NAZIS F***OFF YOU NAZI GIVE GERMENS BAD NAMES B****S
Sorry if i said to many badwords but they make me so mad this is all they say communist/Liberalist are devils well we try to defend are ppl not kill them yes i do kill my citizen if they try to kill someone or try to kill a goverment offical
with tanks sorry if you don't like it but it takes to long sometimes and we have to many ppl on death row to exacut so we get about 100 and we kill them
CAN I JOIN PLZ
Jonothana
08-10-2004, 07:34
OOC: Just a question, Do you find Ultra-Right Wing Benevolent Dictatorships to be enemies? Parthia does not pursecute anyone for religious beliefs or race, but we do on occasion crack down on dissedents.

It's tehnically an anti human rights abuses pact. SO as long as you are benevolent, and not a Nazi, fine.

(Please note this is not acceptance into the pact, I have no power to do that.)
Hogsweat
08-10-2004, 16:12
[QUOTE=Hogsweat]For too long now, the Nazi's and Fascists in our world kill their own citizens because of beliefs. Beliefs which, in all actuality, are similar to their own.
This time MUST stop.
I issue a call to all nations, Capitalist, Communist, Liberalist, whichever - we must at all costs strive to defend the people of the Earth [ NS world ] against the Far-Right-Winged Nations.

omfg you motherfucking hypocrits. listen to urselves. you say that we nazis kill ppl because of their beliefs (which we do) but now, it has gone to a far lesser extent than you all know. but u know wut? right now, you all are doing the same thing. you are killing us nazis for what we believe in. wut do u call that? we are not looking for a fight, so let us be. and also, if you killed half of the world's nazis, you would kill off way more than we killed during WWII. Face it, we've got you outnumbered, so give it up. :upyours:

NEVER

Not one step backwards, comrades of the ANP. Outnumbered, outgunned, whatever the case, we shall always strive to fight you, you imperialist fascist dog.

Live like a dog, and you will die like a dog.
Kroblexskij
08-10-2004, 20:33
consider us a member of the league
Red Terror Cell
08-10-2004, 20:46
I'm very late but can i join
Triancia
08-10-2004, 21:13
It is my pleasure to furthur Triancia's place in the International Community, as well as our obligation to assist the free peoples of the world aganist all opression, weather it be by invasion or a tyrannical government. On behalf of the Triancian people, and with the blessing of our Parliment, I would like to apply for membership in the Anti-Nazi Pact, and give our aid to those who would stand and fight for self-determination and basic human rights.

On Behalf of the People of Triancia,
President Roger Stanton.
The Great Sixth Reich
08-10-2004, 21:29
Jesus Christ, now I am bothered, it takes someone pretty damn retarded to get my full attention. Now, point out where I said you were nazi because you're german...oh wait, I didn't say that did I? strike one. Also, the Right Wing Collective harbours Fascists, Nazis and all other genocidal regimes. Strike two

Also, why should I "research" into you for the sake of a petty argument when I can make my point with what I have?

Do I really have to find another reason for strike 3? Can't be bothered.

Strike three and YOUR OUT!

Calm down. This alliance is about helping people. I'm starting to find this ironic...

Your attitude is quite childish. Because I'm a member of a pro-republican alliance, which of it's 48 members might have Nazi's, you claim that I'm pro-Nazi because I didn't do a backround check on nation's in the alliance? It's called the Right-Wing Alliance because we are republicans. My nation is Republican. Should I leave just because some members are Nazis? Look at my response to The New Aryan State when he commited genocide...

Considering that I have a valid past as pro-human rights, I can't see your reason. The only thing possible is what I said in my last post.
Jonothana
08-10-2004, 22:07
Also could people who just want to criticise and attack members please leave. What you are doing is verging an flaming.
Kriegorgrad
08-10-2004, 22:16
Calm down. This alliance is about helping people. I'm starting to find this ironic...

Your attitude is quite childish. Because I'm a member of a pro-republican alliance, which of it's 48 members might have Nazi's, you claim that I'm pro-Nazi because I didn't do a backround check on nation's in the alliance? It's called the Right-Wing Alliance because we are republicans. My nation is Republican. Should I leave just because some members are Nazis? Look at my response to The New Aryan State when he commited genocide...

Considering that I have a valid past as pro-human rights, I can't see your reason. The only thing possible is what I said in my last post.

First off, I never claimed you were pro-nazi, but you are in an alliance that is pro-nazi. What would happen if the RWC and the ANP got into a scrap over nazis? What side would you pick, this is what I have been trying to convey but have obviously used the wrong words or simply worded it badly.

Now you know my point, I think we are done, and this isn't because I want to irritate you, it's just that the RWC doubts your loyalties.
The Great Sixth Reich
08-10-2004, 22:22
First off, I never claimed you were pro-nazi, but you are in an alliance that is pro-nazi. What would happen if the RWC and the ANP got into a scrap over nazis? What side would you pick, this is what I have been trying to convey but have obviously used the wrong words or simply worded it badly.

Now you know my point, I think we are done, and this isn't because I want to irritate you, it's just that the RWC doubts your loyalties.

Oh, that's it! Sorry for any confusion.

The only reason I joined the RWC is because lots of people dislike the fact that I like President Bush, and joining it would keep my nation safe from attack. However, if the two did get into a conflict over a genocide, I would stay neutral. But if it was unproked, then I'd have to side with the RWC, but it's highly doubtfull I would use military force.
Kriegorgrad
08-10-2004, 22:27
Oh, that's it! Sorry for any confusion.

The only reason I joined the RWC is because lots of people dislike the fact that I like President Bush, and joining it would keep my nation safe from attack. However, if the two did get into a conflict over a genocide, I would stay neutral. But if it was unproked, then I'd have to side with the RWC, but it's highly doubtfull I would use military force.

It was my fault also, sorry for getting drawn in, sorry for the misunderstanding, I can word things badly sometimes. I was just a bit doubtful over your loyalties to the RWC, which seem to be sound, I'll inform the rest that you're in the clear!
Psov
09-10-2004, 14:34
We withdraw
Guffingford
09-10-2004, 14:45
We withdraw

A wise choice. This whole alliance or what's left it is nothing but a farce with people blind for the truth. National-Socialism is an answer, a revelation to your pure citizens. Purity comes in many forms; racial purity is the finest.
Psov
09-10-2004, 14:54
Our nation condemns Racial Purity and always has, we simply seek the destruction of former alliances under our Socialist Government, which is now destroyed.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363979
Sethesia
13-10-2004, 01:59
Consider the State of Sethesh and her Colonies a member of this alliance, the growing threat of Nazism has made itself known once again
Jonothana
13-10-2004, 16:45
A wise choice. This whole alliance or what's left it is nothing but a farce with people blind for the truth. National-Socialism is an answer, a revelation to your pure citizens. Purity comes in many forms; racial purity is the finest.

Just don't. Get out. Now. You condemn the alliance in this thread, which has already been frowned upon, and now you promote National Socialism.

Please do not use this thread to condemn the alliance or promote Nationanl Socialism.
McLeod03
15-10-2004, 17:16
OOC: Jonothana, once again, I see you take charge of a thread, like the NATO one, and act like a founder of an alliance. Pitiful really.


IC:

The Righteous Monarchy of McLeod03 would like to be considered for membership of this pact, as my ancestors and myself have always attempted to strive for an end to genocide, and an end to racially motivated discrimination.

However, before such an application be put into practice, I feel it is my duty to ask if the alliance would act against extreme LEFT-wing nations guilty of said crimes, as this is not specified in your introductory speech.

HRH King Michael,
McLeodian King
Hogsweat
15-10-2004, 17:20
After revising our system, we would act against far left nations.

Thanks for joining.
McLeod03
15-10-2004, 17:22
Very well, then we are happy to join such a righteous and well-meaning alliance, and to once more work alongside our Hogsweatian friends.
Hogsweat
15-10-2004, 17:23
Goody goody gumdrops. Want to join the forum? I'll validate you.
McLeod03
15-10-2004, 17:33
OOC: Yeah, whats the addy? (Oh good, another one to remember, since the uni computers wipe cookies and histroy when you log off)
Hogsweat
15-10-2004, 17:40
OOC: That sucks. Its not too hard. just have to remember:
s6
the_antinai_pact
http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_AntiNazi_Pact/index.php?act=idx
Jonothana
15-10-2004, 18:45
OOC: Jonothana, once again, I see you take charge of a thread, like the NATO one, and act like a founder of an alliance. Pitiful really.
((OOC:I am actually an admin and council ministry member, and if somebody endorses what we are against and heavily critisises the alliance, I think it's time to act. Just remember, it's not good to make a mod annoyed at you... ;)))
McLeod03
15-10-2004, 22:43
((OOC:I am actually an admin and council ministry member, and if somebody endorses what we are against and heavily critisises the alliance, I think it's time to act. Just remember, it's not good to make a mod annoyed at you... ;)))

OOC: Well then its a good job i'm not in NATO anymore huh? Got fed up waiting for my account to be validated, despite being told i was in.
Jonothana
15-10-2004, 22:45
OOC: Well then its a good job i'm not in NATO anymore huh? Got fed up waiting for my account to be validated, despite being told i was in.
No, I'm the mod in ANP. And this means I was phsykickly right or something?

May this argument only be remembered when you trip up and I give you much more warning than you are due.
McLeod03
15-10-2004, 22:57
OOC: Trip up? Me? Never.... Ooh, and was that an admission of intent to purposefully abuse moderation powers?

End of OOC stuff. Back to recruitment.
Jonothana
15-10-2004, 23:00
No, wasn't. Bit of fun.
ACTUAL END OF OOC ---
McLeod03
21-10-2004, 17:46
OOC: Bump for interest
Hogsweat
21-10-2004, 18:06
bump. Btw Mcleod, replied your PM.
Kryozerkia
21-10-2004, 22:21
I'm in favour of such a pact. I'd be interested in joining.
Hogsweat
21-10-2004, 22:48
Sure. You want to register on the forum and I'll approve it.
McLeod03
22-10-2004, 12:04
BUMP for further membership applications
McLeod03
22-10-2004, 16:59
Mind you don't BUMP into this thread as it jumps to the top.
Triancia
22-10-2004, 17:41
OOC: I'm going to apply to join your forums, but I was wondering if I was accepted?
McLeod03
22-10-2004, 18:04
Yeah, apply. Hogsweat should approve your application soon.
Hogsweat
23-10-2004, 18:00
You where approved Triancia.
Jonothana
18-11-2004, 22:49
Anyone else?
The Fedral Union
18-11-2004, 23:04
Im joing ...hell ill even contribute money to it
Hogsweat
18-11-2004, 23:06
-List Updated-

Welcome TFU.
imported_ViZion
18-11-2004, 23:07
*raises hand* Hogsweat, I thought I was a member, but not listed there... :-/
Hogsweat
18-11-2004, 23:08
You were... yes, of course. I will add you immediately.
imported_ViZion
18-11-2004, 23:09
You were... yes, of course. I will add you immediately.
k, thx :)
Hogsweat
18-11-2004, 23:11
Np, done =)
Jarridia
18-11-2004, 23:11
I'll join. RPed and talked to you before Hogsweat. :)
Hogsweat
18-11-2004, 23:15
Added, Jarridia. =) Nice to see you again.
Jarridia
18-11-2004, 23:18
Yes it is. Haven't talked to you in a while.
Roach-Busters
18-11-2004, 23:59
RB would like to join.
Nieder Ostland
19-11-2004, 00:19
The Grand Duchy of Nieder Ostland would like to join the ANP, to help fight the Nazis all over the world.
Roach-Busters
19-11-2004, 17:34
bump
Roach-Busters
19-11-2004, 17:44
Added, Jarridia.

What about me? :(
Jonothana
19-11-2004, 22:15
What about me? :(
He hasn't been on since you applied. And a background check will take a long time, so why not provide us with some good material, eh. ANd if you are really honest, give a few points why we might not accept you, then tell us why this shouldn't warrant your denial.
Praetonia
19-11-2004, 22:21
Official Statement, Imperial Government

After a long period of careful consideration, the Imperial Parliament has voted in favour of allying to join the esteemed Anti-Genocide Pact. We hope that our past record on dealing with abuses of human rights (ie the regime change in The Deadly Viper) will be enough to grant us a place in this organisation, but if further information is required then it will be provided.
Jonothana
19-11-2004, 23:08
Roach-Busters: No action has been taken as of yet. Appologies.

Nieder Ostland: Due to your being new, a background check was carried out, and you were clear. If you want, you can apply for your backround check file to be declassified in the Membership Discussion

Praetonia: As you are known to me, and have been accepted into Nato, you have been accepted here.

All those who have been accepted please register on the forums and await validation.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 01:40
Nieder Ostland: Can you please register at the ANP forums. You have not done so, yet have posted as a guest. Thankyou.
Roach-Busters
20-11-2004, 01:42
He hasn't been on since you applied. And a background check will take a long time, so why not provide us with some good material, eh. ANd if you are really honest, give a few points why we might not accept you, then tell us why this shouldn't warrant your denial.

Well, there are a few human rights abuses in RB. We kill people who don't like egg nog (or who like it, but don't consider it the best drink in the world) and those who refuse to acknowledge that our First Lady is the world's loveliest woman. We treat our criminals quite abominably, too.
Hrstrovokia
20-11-2004, 01:51
I'm considering joining. If you will have me that is.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 01:51
Well, there are a few human rights abuses in RB. We kill people who don't like egg nog (or who like it, but don't consider it the best drink in the world) and those who refuse to acknowledge that our First Lady is the world's loveliest woman. We treat our criminals quite abominably, too.

Well that is discrimination against people with a different ideology from the states. Therefore I imagine this would qualify for a rejection.

No Human Rights Abuses Are Tolerated!
Solyno
20-11-2004, 02:11
Now, before I start saying things: I am not a fascist/neo-nazi.

But as NS is a site/forum where people from all over the world gather, to have discussions about politics and where everyone defends its own political stance.. This topic is just plain ridiculous then.

You intend to keep far right-winged idealists out of action.. Because of their reputation/ideas. Now: Isn't that a bit of a right-wing thing too?

I myself believe no one can support only one political group. There's a bit of this and a bit of that in every person, so you just showed the fascist part of yourself to the rest of the world. ;P
Hrstrovokia
20-11-2004, 02:23
Quick, Lynch Solyno, he has pierced through our lies and revealed us as the terrible hypocrites we really are!!!
Roach-Busters
20-11-2004, 02:24
Well that is discrimination against people with a different ideology from the states. Therefore I imagine this would qualify for a rejection.

No Human Rights Abuses Are Tolerated!

Criminals are not humans. They have no rights.

-Secretary of Law and Order Chia Neng Lee
Ratheia
20-11-2004, 02:28
-Official Ratheian Government Response-

Our feelings towards fascists and nazis are well known. We desire to join the Anti-Nazi pact to lead the world to a nazi-free tommorrow.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 13:29
Criminals are not humans. They have no rights.

-Secretary of Law and Order Chia Neng Lee

I will grant you that, although that would also count as human rights abuses, however what I was reffering to was the opression of Eggnog haters.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 13:33
Nieder Ostland:Thankyou for registering, you can now post in the boards.

Roach Busters: Your application is pending.

All other applicants: Background checks are now underway.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 13:39
Ratheia: You have now been accepted following a background check. Please register to have your account validated.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 13:41
Hrstrovokia: You have been accepted. Please register to gain access to the forums.
Free World of Europa
20-11-2004, 13:53
Sign me up! :)
Hogsweat
20-11-2004, 13:54
Free World of Europa: Thank you for joining the ANP. Your application has been approved.
Jonothana
20-11-2004, 22:02
Roach Busters: Your application is still pending. Appologies for the wait.
Rummland
08-12-2004, 23:38
Being a Communist nation, we know the importance of keeping the Fascist thoughts out of our head. I beleive it is our job to keep the wrongful dictatorships out of our people's heads and to keep these thought from spreading. We would love to join the ANP and defeat these members of evil.

Chairman Alexei Avakian
United Socialist States of Rummland, Sector 7G
Member of Communist Nations Alliance
Jonothana
09-12-2004, 00:53
This isn't a left-wing alliance. This is an anti-genocide alliance. Please bear that in mind.
Pallawish
09-12-2004, 01:13
"As I was willing to wage war against the Nation Of Nazis Rule. It is obvious the Pallawish Nation is willing to join this alliance. If you will accept us that is..."

- Spoken By Lord Thomas II
Rummland
09-12-2004, 02:50
Yes, Jonothana, I know this is not a left wing alliance. I just want it made sure that my decision is party because of our idealology
German Faith Movement
15-12-2004, 08:34
The Great and all-mighty state of Bob-Bob views this alliance with some distaste and repugnance. You will cease your militant efforts of Imperialism or you will have to answer for your crimes upon sovereign states. Like it or not a nation can do whatever it damn well wants with it’s populace. Do not force me to make an example.


i am in agreement with the State of Bob-Bob and will support and assist any NS State as needed we have suicide bombers available at a moments notice

"Meine Ehre heisst Treue" :sniper:


Furhrer The Holy Empire of German Faith Movement
RaHoWa
Hogsweat
15-12-2004, 09:14
i am in agreement with the State of Bob-Bob and will support and assist any NS State as needed we have suicide bombers available at a moments notice

"Meine Ehre heisst Treue" :sniper:


Furhrer The Holy Empire of German Faith Movement
RaHoWa

n00b: Ignored.

Rummland: You are accepted into the ANP.
SovietRepublicofRussia
16-12-2004, 02:12
SRoR will join as it is a Communist nations duty to eliminate facism from the world.
The Great Sixth Reich
16-12-2004, 02:22
"Hello! We're facist and we're a member! We'll welcome you in advance! :)" -Otto von Hiekel Rommel, Dictator.
Seekers of G-d
12-01-2005, 00:20
My nation would like to join in this Pact.

Holy Republic of the Seekers of G-d
East Pacific Region
Pushka
12-01-2005, 00:47
Communist state of federation of Pushka would like to join this alligence.
Tannenmille
14-05-2005, 05:46
Both for moral reasons and to dispel any sort of rumours that might be going around that the Holy Reich of Tannenmille is Nazi or affiliates itself with Naziism, we would like to join the Anti-Nazi Pact.
Romandeos
14-05-2005, 06:56
In light of the fact that the nation of Hogsweat has in the past provided Romandeos with a Main Battle Tank and other useful tools, and because of the fact that Nazi countries aren’t trustworthy in our opinion, the Kingdom of Romandeos wishes to apply to join this grand international coalition of noble crusaders against the forces of evil. In addition, we would like to suggest a formal face-to-face meeting between the leaders of all ANP nationstates.

If our country is accepted into the ANP, we would like to volunteer our nation for a place to have such a meeting.

~ Diplomatic Representative of the Kingdom of Romandeos.
Leafanistan
30-05-2005, 15:59
As per Republican Senate ruling 4596-02052005C the Nazi Party and any similar racist parties that violate this country's constitution with their radical beliefs for how our government should act was banned.

Leafanistan wishes to join the ANP.
Jagada
01-06-2005, 21:53
Offical StatementThe Religious Commonwealth of Jagada

The Religious Commonwealth has always had a distaste for Facists nations who believe that their people are merely resources for the amusment. As such, and due that both the House of People and the House of Morality have both voted in favor. The Religious Commonwealth of Jagada requests to be a member of the Anti-Nazi Pact. Thank you.

Signed,
Foreign Relations Minister John Callahan
Tannenmille
03-06-2005, 02:21
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423402

Nazi nation, just rousing the ANP nations.
East Lithuania
03-06-2005, 02:27
East Lithuania also would like to sign this pact. Dictator Scharfetter is pleased to know that there are others in this world who feel that the Nazi party, and all other Fascist partys are a threat to this society.

Signed,
Nina Rangel
Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Hataria
03-06-2005, 02:28
I would like to join the pact.
Niall Noiglach
17-04-2006, 04:41
I would like to sign up for both Niall Noiglach and the American Privateer.

I controll both, and we offer the following

Niall Noiglach (MT/PMT)
Division upon division of highly trained Combat Archers
A massive Combat Air Fleet

The American Privateer (FT)
A massive Navy that could easily take down any FT Nazi nations.
Pythogria
17-04-2006, 04:44
Pythogria would like to join this Pact.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 04:56
Cravan is interested in joining this pact as well. Our position on racial hatred and fascism is one of great distaste.
Kanabia
17-04-2006, 06:35
Lulz gravedig.

Wow, I used to RP once.
Cravan
17-04-2006, 06:36
Holy shit I just realised how old this is. I gotta look at more than just the date of the last post anymore.
Kanabia
17-04-2006, 06:37
Holy shit I just realised how old this is. I gotta look at more than just the date of the last post anymore.

It brings back memories...

*leans on cane, looks pensively at the sky and his eyes mist over...* :p
1010102
17-04-2006, 06:41
are scientoloigests considered people?