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sephrioth begins building mechs

Sephrioth
30-09-2004, 09:43
IC like the dashini and others
Sephrioth
30-09-2004, 09:46
bump help needed
Lessr Tsurani
30-09-2004, 11:05
YAY, I finaly get to tell Sep He can't RP. Look, you need to learn some RPing skills, or AT LEAST GRAMMER! My God man, how old are you? If you are anything under 9 then you are dumb. Also, your thought prossese does not make sence to me, you go from one thing to another. Now, Get some grammer, some RPing lessons, and don't come back until you do.
Sephrioth
30-09-2004, 11:36
you are ignored lesser trusami
Lessr Tsurani
30-09-2004, 11:40
Who is lessr Trusami? GOod good man, at least spel my name right. It is LESSR TSURANI. The way you spelt it looks like a tidal wave. Look, I am not trying to be insulting, I am mearly trying to tell you you have bad grammer, I did before two, hell, I still am a bad speller, as well as grammer, but really, no full stops is a bit exessive, how old are you?
Japanese Antarctica
30-09-2004, 11:49
Sephiroth, please go back to reading the stickies on how to RP.
Xarlantine
30-09-2004, 11:51
[OOC] As an experienced tabletop (16+yrs) and online RPer (4+yrs) I have to agree with Lesser Tsurani, you do need lessons in what the term 'role-playing' actually means if this thread is your idea of RPing. I can tell you if you came to a game table with the people I have played with, they would have laughed you out of the room.
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 11:54
YAY, I finaly get to tell Sep He can't RP. Look, you need to learn some RPing skills, or AT LEAST GRAMMER!

Sorry about this, but it's Grammar.
Crookfur
30-09-2004, 12:32
Oh look mechs! Quick send for the Ewok commando brigade!
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 12:33
*sends out simon, the killer Ewok*

"IEEEEE AHHHH!"
Sephrioth
30-09-2004, 13:22
verry funny i have only started research into building mechs.
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 13:41
verry funny i have only started research into building mechs.

you need to develop more than just 1 line posts.
Proletarian s
30-09-2004, 13:52
you need to develop more than just 1 line posts.
you can

talk
Kryozerkia
30-09-2004, 14:34
verry funny i have only started research into building mechs.
Then war between us will be interesting because we already have mech units... and we don't god-mod...
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 14:39
you can

talk

that actually was an intended joke. but it seems no one understands the joke.

*2nd line to avoid critisism*

Besides, i mean more than one line IC.
Sigma Octavus
30-09-2004, 15:08
Haven't you noticed that all of your threads end up with people telling you to learn how to spell and RP correctly. Well, here's another one. You are the least respected nation EVER, and don't you think you should do that?

Seriously man, get a clue.
Omicron Alpha
30-09-2004, 15:13
Then war between us will be interesting because we already have mech units... and we don't god-mod...

Hi. OMilitary would be very interested to hear how you plan on defeating somebody who is totally impervious to any attack or strategy. :D.
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 15:18
The easiest way to deal with a godmodder: ignore them until they feel lonely. perhaps we should start this.
Cax
30-09-2004, 15:45
Knowing Seph, the blueprints will be typo-ed so badly that the engineers will be collapsing with mirth as they assemble the gels instead of legs, rams instead of arms and attempt to subdue the gnus (http://www.uakron.edu/ogc/images/gnu.jpg) long enough to weld them to the rams.:D
Xarlantine
30-09-2004, 16:53
Makes you wonder what the (heat) sinks would actually turn out to be. I can just imagine some poor guy trying to figure out how to make 10 Dublin sinks dissipate any heat whatsoever. :D
Grenval
30-09-2004, 17:02
[OCC - I thought AMF taught Seph how to role-play?! What the hell happened?!]
Omicron Alpha
30-09-2004, 17:23
[OCC - I thought AMF taught Seph how to role-play?! What the hell happened?!]

OOC: It would appear that AMF, in all his greatness, failed miserably ;)
CornixPes II
30-09-2004, 17:33
Let him build his mechs. It's up to him, but if it is used against any of us there will be trouble, obviously.

As for roleplaying I agree with everyone, you really should learn some new skills. I'm available by TG if you are interested in any pointers.
Praetonia
30-09-2004, 18:13
OOC: If you lot dont like Seph and his RPs, then leave his thread, dont continually mock him. You dont have to read this, it doesnt even matter to you, so unless you want to RP with him just leave the thread.

Now Seph, I wouldnt make mechs, because I think they are in every way inferior to tracked vehicles, but they seem to be used in future tech for some reason, so go right ahead if you want.
Phalanix
30-09-2004, 18:22
Let me give you one pointer man. EXPLAIN THE DAMN THINGS STATISTICS!!
Automagfreek
30-09-2004, 18:52
OOC: It would appear that AMF, in all his greatness, failed miserably ;)


OOC: No, I just haven't been around to plant my foot in his ass and get him back on track.
Omicron Alpha
30-09-2004, 18:53
OOC: No, I just haven't been around to plant my foot in his ass and get him back on track.

OOC: Lol. Well, now that you're here, plant away! :D
Megas
30-09-2004, 19:01
Now Seph, I wouldnt make mechs, because I think they are in every way inferior to tracked vehicles, but they seem to be used in future tech for some reason, so go right ahead if you want.

Obviously you have not watched ROBOTECH. Destroids are far superior to tracked vehicles, as is a Veritech VF-1.
Transnapastain
30-09-2004, 19:05
I have to seriously doubt anyone, not AMF, nor anyone of us on here who can RP would ever to successful in teaching him to RP. This has gone on TOO long for Seph to be a real person, he’s been mocked one to many times to take it. I suggest, then, as all of you have in the past, that Seph is no more than an experienced players puppet, used for laughs when said player is bored.

Though, he does appear to be learning…he used bold in one of his posts, HES DISCOVERED THE CODE!

In truth, if you read through his posts…there’s a few that are above even semi-intelligent, which leads me to believe that he is a puppet, or, at the very least, more intelligent than he lets on…

Yeah, I know proposing that is akin to declaring that Pi is exactly 3…but, think about it…

But, being as I’m a good sport, Ill keep the joke going…

Man, Seph, you got to learn to RP…seriously! Also, about your writing, here’s a link you should find rather…let me make this easy…en-light-ten-ing

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352036
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 19:31
This message is hidden because Sephrioth is on your ignore list.

haha I love that!! :p

2nd line post...what am I going to say...hmmm??

HAIL ZE BUNNY!!! (http://tag.digitalmpact.com/bunny.gif)
Jangle Jangle Ridge
30-09-2004, 21:14
Haven't you noticed that all of your threads end up with people telling you to learn how to spell and RP correctly. Well, here's another one. You are the least respected nation EVER, and don't you think you should do that?

Seriously man, get a clue.

He tries, and thus has my respect. Unlike most of you, beating up on a guy because he has finally made a developing thread. But you guys don't give a shit.

To Seph: Jangle Jangle Ridge wishes to donate a sum of 500 billion USD to help fund this project. We also would like to offer a few suggestions:

Make sure to stock your mechs with small (1 foot long, 2 inch radius at max) anti-tank and anti-air missiles. These can help you clear areas from afar, so that you only have to go in once the battlefield is covered in rubble, where a mech has a distinct advantage against ground units.

Jumpjets aren't much use. For a boost to a high surface, it's ok, but it forces you to use stronger shocks and more advanced gyroscopes, which leads to higher cost.

Plasma weapons are virtually useless on a mech, unless used in mortar form, in an expensive long-ranged cannon, or as an anti-mech weapon. Comparatively, automatic weapons with high RPMs will serve you well, as they can cut through tanks and infantry, while also being good against mechs if carefully targetted. An alternative to this is a flanging mono-filament cannon, which sends out streams of extremely thin 'wires', which cut with the smallest amount of friction. However, these aren't very good against tanks, so you should use them in tandem with an automatic weapon.

Do not pack your mech with weapons. This weighs it down, slows it down, and stops it from crossing certain terrains, which is what a mech is for.

Big mech=Bad mech. It's that simple. You want something fast enough to not be hit, due to the inherent weaknesses that come with all mechs. Also, big mechs fall over, can't get up, and end up just being big targets.

Complex weapons are also bad. They raise prices, and are never as useful as you think they will be.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 21:19
I could care less what he does.

After having several conflicts with Seph, all he has to say is "Witzgall sucks" or something and his land is mine.

And yes, that is a promise.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
30-09-2004, 21:43
I'm not saying he's good at roleplaying, or that he tries very hard, but I got him to halve his fleet size in 30 minutes...
Balrogga
30-09-2004, 23:21
I agree with JJR.

He is trying so he should be given a chance without being harassed.

I have not had an interest in Mechs until something I am planning in my future occurs, so listen to JJR can give you some good advice.

I do agree with his Bigger is not better statement. So many times it is ignored because size of the toys impressess. I think smaller better armed and mobile units are superior, in just about any military situation. All you do with the giant super uber weapons is get a pack of hunters tracking it down until you loose it. For an example look to what happened to a certain german ship during WWII...

Seph, keep trying to improve your RP skills.
Sephrioth
01-10-2004, 12:22
OOC THANKS TO THOSE WHO SHOW SUPORT introducing the firewolf nuclear eqiuped walking tank
size 30 feet
wieght 20 tones
weapons
5 demon nuclear weapons
120 smart missiles
1 heartles angel cloaking device
2 ramov shield generators
12 vuclan cannons
11 titan lasers
ENGINE one warp core need to provide the power to move the firewolf
CREW 12
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2004, 12:31
...hmm... two sides of the conflict. one thinks this is a lost cause and thus makes fun of the situation. the other thinks there's hope.

Personally i think sephy has SOME hope. when i took over this nation from my brother, TIN was known for it's godmodding, crap RP'ing, and terrible attitude. Lets face it. my brother was an asshole.

It took me months to rebuild the reputation of TIN, carefully roleplaying the right thing, throwing out my brothers style of government, and forming the now dead Imperial Alliance. I earned the respect and admiration of many of the old nations, now sadly departed. I became known as a fantastic RP'er following several wars against a Warmonger called Ragnarok VII.

Then i had to go for the summer. i was busy, and i have a family to look after. Having returned to college after summer and resurrecting my nation, i was horrified to discover what nationstates has become. Cheap laughs at poor new players. Sadly to begin with, i joined in. I thought it was a one off against a completely useless newbie. It was Hataria. Now theres a lost cause.

but when i saw everyone starting on any new nation that didn't do a good enough RP, i decided i've had enough. Give sephy a break for gods sake, let him mature, like i had to. we all have to start somwhere. wow this post lasted longer thani planned.
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2004, 12:34
OOC THANKS TO THOSE WHO SHOW SUPORT introducing the firewolf nuclear eqiuped walking tank
size 2000 feet
wieght 200000 tones
weapons
16 demon nuclear weapons
1230 smart missiles
1 heartles angel cloaking device
2 ramov shield generators
120 vuclan cannons
112 titan lasers
ENGINE one warp core need to provide the power to move the firewolf
CREW 12

sephy i doubt 12 people could man somthing that big. You need to scale it down somwhat. perhaps 100 smart missles per walker and 2 Nuke launchers would make it a bit better. also, about 30 ft maximum i think, which means it won't be as heavy either. but good to see you posting specs. good work.
Sephrioth
01-10-2004, 12:37
Ooc I Only Have The One
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2004, 12:46
Ooc I Only Have The One

perhaps, but as it is your first mech, it is still best you scale it down a bit. the mech you have is a bit over the top for a prototype, and would probably just fall over with the weight. reduce it all a little. Come on, show me you have what it takes to make it out there.
Sephrioth
01-10-2004, 12:49
OOC I edited it
ic can i have a wargame with you to test the firewolf
Sephrioth
01-10-2004, 12:51
ooc bump
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2004, 12:51
OOC I edited it
ic can i have a wargame with you to test the firewolf

fantastic Sephy. much better.

I'm afraid i'll have to turn down your wargame offer i'm afraid, as i am busy shortly with college work. Perhaps tuesday next week?
Sephrioth
01-10-2004, 12:56
ooc sure tg me first
ICI have to put the tritainum aroumor on the firewolf it wil be able to stop a small nuke cold.
Lessr Tsurani
01-10-2004, 17:19
Before people say I said he sucked, I did, I did not laugh at him, mearly give advice. Truth is, My advice just is worded to look like laughing at him.
Really,
<_<
>_>
<_<
>_<
Runs.................
Phalanix
01-10-2004, 18:33
Just wondering though would the armor protect the mech form the EMP blast casued by the nuke or are the vunerable conponents already sheilded from EMP? Other than that it's a good first mech. Just a lil big but a good start.
Sephrioth
04-10-2004, 11:11
the whole mech is protetected by the armor.
Sharina
04-10-2004, 11:36
OOC:

As I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Seph has a learning disability. He's either a slow learner, or someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the English language.

My mother works with people like Seph in real life, as a special education teacher. I've seen Seph's kind of people in real life, and even though their English skills might be bad, they could be wonderful people.

Even though I'm deaf and I'm forced to resort to writing back and forth between myself and these special needs kids, I don't care about their reading and writing level of skill. They are good people with good hearts.

So, please think twice before putting Seph down. Hataria's a different story though.
Sephrioth
04-10-2004, 11:44
OOC thanks Sharina
Harlesburg
04-10-2004, 11:50
YAY, I finaly get to tell Sep He can't RP. Look, you need to learn some RPing skills, or AT LEAST GRAMMER! My God man, how old are you? If you are anything under 9 then you are dumb. Also, your thought prossese does not make sence to me, you go from one thing to another. Now, Get some grammer, some RPing lessons, and don't come back until you do.

i dont think thats a word either but yeah your right were is the action the drama the buzz the crowd the atmosphere...
Japanese States
04-10-2004, 11:54
arg this means i have to help Seph with mecha dont it ok lets see, battletech or robotech...well battletech easy.

ok Seph a simple 1 2 3 on mecha design:

Weight:- range from 30 tons (light mech) to 120-150 tons (assult mech), the heavyer it is the slower it is, but it had the advantage of being a walking fortrass (tho dont worry it can still be taken down rather easyly).

Armor:- meh normal at lest a meter thick, but thats up to you.

Reactor:- Nuclear or fusion mini reactors nothing elce can provide the power

Heat sinks:- now these are needed with out them well your mechs going to turn into a walking time bomb that or the worlds biggest radiator, more you have the cooler your mechs going to be when it fires it guns etc.

Speeds:- from around 10mph to around 40-50mph depending on the class some infact can go alot faster but meh thats a decent range to keep in.

Weapons:- well it depends on the class now a Scout mech is not going to have lots of heavy weapons, then again an assult mech is not just going to have heavy weapons. See its all about balance, your assult mechs will want more long range weapons then medium but its still going to want short range weapons tho not as meny as medium.
good site for pics and also gives ya weapons and system info (http://www.kerensky.tierranet.com/btech/btech.shtml)

theres more but i cant be bothered to get into it.
Balrogga
05-10-2004, 03:06
Japanese States has some good advice. Keep your units light so you have superior maneuverability. They can't hurt you if they can't hit you...