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Bellum Indicare

The Water Cooler
30-09-2004, 07:57
The Emperors Message,
Broadcast Around the world

To the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and indeed people of the free world;

Today the rebel ‘Government’ of Caselonian, refusing to acknowledge, and respect, as per international law, the recent expansion of our marine boundaries, and by default in their failure to vacate the area, have declared war against the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavouring to enslave and corrupt the entire world now with their digesting and base socialistic regime.

Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. To continue to appease the despotic government would be to invite destruction, and veritable rape of not only us, but the free world. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery , of barbarism, and of ‘communism’.

I therefore request the free world unites against socialistic aggression and bands together in order to ensure a safe, and free tomorrow.
-Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor Sohi


The War Resolution,
Bought into HEWC Law At 5:00pm Water Coolian Time, September 30, in the Year of 200x.

DECLARING that a state of war exists between the rebel Government of Caselonia and the government and the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler and making provision to prosecute the same.

WHEREAS the Government of Caselonia has, by default, declared war against the government and the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler:

THEREFORE, be it Resolved by the Parliament and Council of Leaders and the Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler in one session assembled, that the state of war between the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler and the Rebel Despotic Government of Caselonia which has thus been thrust upon the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler is hereby formally declared; and the Emperor is hereby authorised to employ the entire naval and military forces of the Holy Empire of the Cooler to carry on war against the Rebel Government of Caselonia; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the united joint session to defeat the enemy that threatens to destroy everything.

Vox Populi, vox Dei.
Neo Portugal
30-09-2004, 08:04
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The Water Cooler
30-09-2004, 11:04
The Emperors Message,
Broadcast Around the world

To the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and indeed people of the free world;

Today the rebel ‘Government’ of SeOCC, has declared war against the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavouring to enslave and corrupt the entire world now with their digesting and base socialistic regime.

Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. To continue to appease the despotic government would be to invite destruction, and veritable rape of not only us, but the free world. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery , of barbarism, and of ‘communism’.

I therefore request the free world unites against socialistic aggression and bands together in order to ensure a safe, and free tomorrow.
-Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor Sohi


The War Resolution,
Bought into HEWC Law At 8:00pm Water Coolian Time, September 30, in the Year of 200x.

DECLARING that a state of war exists between the rebel Government of SeOCC and the government and the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler and making provision to prosecute the same.

WHEREAS the Government of SeOCC has, by default, declared war against the government and the people of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler:

THEREFORE, be it Resolved by the Parliament and Council of Leaders and the Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler in one session assembled, that the state of war between the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler and the Rebel Despotic Government of SeOCC which has thus been thrust upon the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler is hereby formally declared; and the Emperor is hereby authorised to employ the entire naval and military forces of the Holy Empire of the Cooler to carry on war against the Rebel Government of SeOCC; and to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the united joint session to defeat the enemy that threatens to destroy everything.

Vox Populi, vox Dei.
Watfordshire
30-09-2004, 11:07
**Shiree News Cena**

Magic Hooley Jnr. addresses the international press

"Watfordshire condemns the declaration of the Holy Empire and offers its support to Caselonia" (ooc: although this support is non-military, this turn of events will rally the Medical staff already present in Nueva Habana under the govt. once more - assuming there is an amnesty for the rebels)

"The Shiree pledge further support in the form of 3 more units of field medics, who will work in cooperation with the armed forces of other CACE nations who are no doubt preparing to crush HEWC completely."

The Herald pauses, raises palms.

"The Shiree also call for restraint from our allies. Despite the recent terrorist actions in Celdonia, perpetrated by the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, we have no wish to see Coolian innocents die in the crossfire. We shall do our utmost to assist any Coolians who wish to see their slavemasters deposed, or to escape from their perilous situation for the duration of the conflict.

Madames y Monsieurs... we are pacifists, but we are not naive..."

there is another pause until the laughing from the press calms down. Magic Hooley smiles grimly

"Well - if we are naive to believe that our lives are worth no more than the safety of others, then I am proud to be so. The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler is clearly the aggressor in this unfortunate turn of events. The UN's lack of power through arbitration is sadly evident by their silence and we are compelled to respond to this open war by offering as much support to our allies Caselonia as is humanly possible, in accordance with the constitution of the Coalition of Anti-Capitalist Economies. Finally our message to the people of the Water Cooler, who's Imperial Dictatorship has driven to unnecessary war is this:
Keep hope and hold fast - your destiny is in your hands"
Celdonia
30-09-2004, 12:17
Citizens of Celdonia and other CACE nations,

I come before you with the disturbing news that The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler has today declared war on our CACE allies Caselonia.

An emergency session of the Cabinet has already met to consider our response and I shall now read the collective statement to you.

“Comrades, in their declaration of war the HEWC has announced its intent to commit a serious act of aggression on our allies Caselonia. It is therefore the decision of the Cabinet that under the terms of the CACE charter (section V(a)) Celdonia is compelled to act in defense of our ally.

The Cabinet therefore claims the right, under section 1(d) of the Emergency Governance Act (1962), to declare that a state of war now exists between the Republic of Celdonia and the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.

The mobilisation of forces has already begun and all military personnel have been instructed to return to their bases immediately.

We further call on all CACE members to fulfil the obligations of membership and and stand in defence of their Caselonian friends.

However, we send the message to the HEWC that conflict can still be avoided if they retract their declaration of war on Caselonia by noon tomorrow. We hope they will accept this offer.”
The Imperial Navy
30-09-2004, 12:22
The Imperial Navy watches over this situation with concern. There may be many civilian casualties in this conflict.
The Water Cooler
30-09-2004, 12:46
This message has been approved by the War Time Security Directorate.

See how they band together like rabid animals! We must unite fellow Capitalistic nations, or face their domination!

Lord Hizen Barden,
Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
The HEWC.
Moleland
30-09-2004, 12:51
TAG: watching with interest, may get involved or report back, What does CACE stand for?
The Exetonian Empire
30-09-2004, 13:43
The Confederacy of The Exetonian Empire pledges offcial support to The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and calls upon the rebel and bandit government in Caselonia to make a statement. If no such statement is made in defence of Caselonian policy, it will be the policy of The Exetonian Empire to come to the aid of our brothers in The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, by whatever means neccassery.

Exetonia Erwache!
Celdonia
30-09-2004, 13:51
OOC: CACE is the Coalition of Anticapitalist Economies. Basically an anticapitalist trade bloc (the oldest surving one in NS formed about a year and a half ago and still going strong) with a mutual defense clause as part of the treaty.

Our forums are at http://invisionfree.com/forums/CACE/index.php?act=idx and are very active (33,614 posts from 347 registered members). For RP purposes the CACE HQ is located in the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter of Glasburgh, the Celdonian capital. Anyone is welcome to visit. We even let HEWC in :p

IC:

Lord Hizen Barden is well aware of the conditions attached to CACE membership and HEWC will have been well aware that fellow members of CACE would be obliged to come to the aid of Caselonia where war to be declared against it.

HEWC is the only agressor here and other nations should not be lured into believing this is a conflict between socialism and capitalism. The CACE has no aspirations to take control of any capitalist nation and would prefer to stand down following HEWC's withdrawal of their declaration of war on Caselonia.



Ministry of Defence.
The Exetonian Empire
30-09-2004, 13:57
Stated By the Government of The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler:
Today the rebel ‘Government’ of Caselonian, refusing to acknowledge, and respect, as per international law, the recent expansion of our marine boundaries, and by default in their failure to vacate the area, have declared war against the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.


Lord von Glukensborg, Exetonian Minister for War draws CACE and Celdonian attention to this statement, and invites and opinion.

Exetonia Erwache!
Celdonia
30-09-2004, 14:11
Stated By the Government of The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler:


Today the rebel ‘Government’ of Caselonian, refusing to acknowledge, and respect, as per international law, the recent expansion of our marine boundaries, and by default in their failure to vacate the area, have declared war against the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.


Lord von Glukensborg, Exetonian Minister for War draws CACE and Celdonian attention to this statement, and invites and opinion.

Exetonia Erwache!


We would ask which international law HEWC cites when they refer to the expansion of their territorial waters?

As far as we are aware the recently passed UN resolution Law of the Sea is the only internationaly recognised legislation governing this issue.


1. That all areas of sea more than 20 kilometres from an internationally recognised settled landmass or scientific research station are described as international waters.


It is our understanding that the Caselonian vessels are outside of this region.

Whilst we recognise that HEWC is not a member of the UN, we ask again which law the cite and by which authority they claim an expansion of their territorial waters.

OOC: If Caselonia is closer than I belive them to be then nows the time for someone to put me straight. HEWC - what claims on territorial waters are you making anyway?
The Exetonian Empire
30-09-2004, 15:19
Although The Confederacy of The Exetonian Empire opposes the rebel and bandit governments of Communist nations, we ourselves are a peaceloving nation. Thus, we do not wish to be pulled into a conflict between two sovereign states, until it the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler can state their legal right to the territory they claim. Until that time, Exetonian interests must lie elsewhere.
Caselonia
30-09-2004, 16:54
{OOC: Sorry it's taken me awhile to respond, but I don't usually RP on the Jolt forums, for reasons I won't get into right now.}


Касeлонский Советский Федеральный Социалистический Республика - Объявление войны и Чрезвычайный Меморандум
(Caselonian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic – Declaration of War and Emergency Memorandum)

UNDERSTANDING that the criminal regime in the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler (HEWC) has unjustly declared war on the Caselonian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic, hereafter referred to as the CSFSR,

RECOGNIZING the danger that the Coolian regime poses both in its boasts regarding WMD capabilities, and the coming attack against Caselonian naval assets residing in international waters more than 20km outside Coolian territorial waters, and

RESPONDING to the mobilization of Coolian naval elements to sail beyond the territorial boundary with the intention of engaging the Caselonian People’s Navy, which placed a non-intervening naval cordon around the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler due to WMD proliferation and the HEWC’s participation in three bombings in the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter, leaving hundreds dead, including women and children, and the bombing and destruction of its own Embassy in the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter, killing over 300 Coolian citizens, most of them civilians,

THE CSFSR declares a state of war existing between the CSFSR and her CACE allies and the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.

The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler can render this declaration null and void by rescinding its own declaration of war by 1am GMT tonight.

Виктор Сергейевич Фомин (Viktor Sergeievich Fomin)
Маршалл Людей (Marshall of the People)
Министерство обороны (Ministry of Defense)
Caselonia
30-09-2004, 17:02
The HEWC has no claim, that much is clear to all international observers. There are no "rebel" governments that the HEWC declared war against. Caselonia, and all of her CACE allies, have legitimate governments put into place by mandates of the people.

The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler pins inaccurate epithets to every government that does not agree 100% with them, going so far as calling the glorious President Eamon McGinnis, of Caselonia, the "Herr Rebel McLeader" and other sorts of puerile schoolyard foolishness. It has blacklisted nations who downgraded their diplomatic presence due to dangerous conditions existing in the HEWC, whereupon 128 Caselonian nationals were arrested, interrogated and drugged with no pretext, in clear breach of international law. Those citizens have been recovered and are being debriefed as we speak.

Caselonia's maintenance of a naval cordon, note that it is not a blockade, is due to the terrorist actions and support of terrorists by the State of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler. The Coolian ambassador to the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter, which the HEWC disavows all knowledge of, planned and executed three bombing attacks in the CDQ, as well as destroying his own embassy. The HEWC continually boasts of its WMD capability, and its complete ease at using them offensively. For these reasons, we have maintained a naval cordon of the HEWC remaining 20km into international waters outside of the Coolian territorial water border. They claim it has cost them billions and disrupted their shipping, but Caselonian naval elements have not stopped or boarded a single vessel, nor have they seized any cargoes, including elements suspected to be offensive NBC weapons components.

Caselonia stands firm with her allies in the Coalition of Anticapitalist Economies. A rabid, criminal regime will not bend us, much less break us. We stand committed to the principles of equality, social justice and social responsibility. We shall be victorious.

In solidarity,
Vladimir Ivanovich Kovalenko
Minister of Defense
Caselonian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
Grenval
30-09-2004, 17:13
Official Ministry Statement

Standing now before you, I demand, what proof have you?

Samantha Rachel Bafringh
Minister of Foreign Affairs

--

The three most powerful people in Grenval sat inside a dark room, sparsley light from the ceiling with lights installed in each corner. President George, his head bent into his chest, mumbled something toward the table.

The Minister of Defense, described as a stern, gray man, sat smoking. After the President's mumbled question, the Minister took the cigar from his mouth to say, "Excuse me sir, I did not hear."

President George looked up, his body still bent low over the table, shaking his head, he repeated himself, "What is this coming to..."
Omicron Alpha
30-09-2004, 17:35
As OMilitary Ltd has no contracts with any nation or corporation involved in this potential conflict, we view this as unprofitable for all concerned. Unprofitable wars are not advisable, and we would urge both parties to the negotiating table to come to a mutually beneficial agreement, rather than engage in war.

As CACE have already suggested they will withdraw their declaration of war if The Water Cooler does likewise, a rebuttal of this offer by The Water Cooler will be viewed as military aggression on their part and Omicron Alpha will be inclined to side with -- as much as we would disdain such a decision -- the viewpoint of the economical heretics.

However, we will not contract OMilitary for either side unless the nations of CACE seize the opportunity to attack another capitalist nation without provocation.
Cirdanistan
30-09-2004, 18:52
After an emergency meeting of the Praesidium, a cross-department press meeting was held to announce that, according to section VIb) and following of the Constitution, because of the CACE mutual defence clause the declaration of war by the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler against the People's Republic of Caselonia constituted a de facto declaration of war against the Revolutionary Democracy of Cirdanistan. Consequently, Cirdani forces, already at REVLERT-2 status due to the situation in Biotopia and the bombings in the CDQ, will proceed to operational deployment against the Holy Empire incessantly.
[CNC Newswire]
The Water Cooler
01-10-2004, 04:33
This message has been cleared by the War Time Security Directorate.


The HEWC has no claim, that much is clear to all international observers. There are no "rebel" governments that the HEWC declared war against. Caselonia, and all of her CACE allies, have legitimate governments put into place by mandates of the people.

Such are statement is a lie! A prime example of the way in which the CACE governments obtain power is the situation in Biotopia; where the people have spoken, and demanded a sensible, capitalistic based government. And what did CACE do, as the so called mandates of the people? They labeled the new government as 'revolutionary' and a 'insurrectionist'! I think what the clearly deluded propagandists from Caselonia meant to say is that the governments are put into place at the hands of terror, and countless years of manipulation!

Clearly faced with the overwhelming poverty that has been demonstrated in all CACE nations it is clear that no one in their right mind would support s government, such as the Caselonian government.

Ergo our claims that the government is a rebel government is substantiated, 100% accurate, and true.


...whereupon 128 Caselonian nationals were arrested, interrogated and drugged with no pretext, in clear breach of international law. Those citizens have been recovered and are being debriefed as we speak.


See how far they go in their attempt to divert attention from their real crimes, by pointing our events that did not happen! No Caselonian citizen in the HEWC has ever been arrested, interrogated, and drugged! Such claims could only come from a rebel government, whose president McLeader has committed atrocities that put him in the same league as Hitler, Stalin, Attila the Hun, and 'Barney'.

The Caselonian propagandists, and indeed the CACE ones as well will go to anything length in order to divert attention from their real crimes! Together we must dash to the earth their craven, erroneous lies, before they threaten to destroy the world which we hold dear.


Caselonia's maintenance of a naval cordon, note that it is not a blockade, is due to the terrorist actions and support of terrorists by the State of the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler. The Coolian ambassador to the Celdonian Diplomatic Quarter, which the HEWC disavows all knowledge of, planned and executed three bombing attacks in the CDQ, as well as destroying his own embassy. The HEWC continually boasts of its WMD capability, and its complete ease at using them offensively. For these reasons, we have maintained a naval cordon of the HEWC remaining 20km into international waters outside of the Coolian territorial water border. They claim it has cost them billions and disrupted their shipping, but Caselonian naval elements have not stopped or boarded a single vessel, nor have they seized any cargoes, including elements suspected to be offensive NBC weapons components.


Lies! The HEWC does not support Terrorists! Such a claim is like saying Caselonia is a member of the K.I.S.T treaty, humorous, but without a ounce of truth.

We neither deny or confirm existence of NBC weapons, and encourage nations not to give in to their outrageous claims!

Despite their vain and indeed weasel like response to the pirate blockade I can assure you Caselonian pirate ships have disrupted shipping in ways unheard of since the days of Blackbeard!


Caselonia stands firm with her allies in the Coalition of Anticapitalist Economies. A rabid, criminal regime will not bend us, much less break us. We stand committed to the principles of equality, social justice and social responsibility. We shall be victorious.


Idle dreams. You shall be crushed like a bug by the might of the free world!


Vladimir Ivanovich Kovalenko


And I bet he is drunk as we speak.

Sincerely,
Lord Hizen Barden,
Minister of International Affairs,
Ministry of International Affairs,
(Previously known as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs),
The HEWC
Celdonia
01-10-2004, 10:49
"Sir, we might have a problem dealing with HEWC," the official said as he handed President McKay a small dossier.

“In what way,” McKay enquired.

“It’s all in the dossier Mr President, but the gist of it is that we’ve had an army of psychologists and psychiatrists pouring over every statement and broadcast the HEWC has made.”

“And the problem?”

“They’re fairly convinced that most, if not all, of the government are clinically insane.”

“Oh terrific…….”
Free Soviets
01-10-2004, 17:22
The AFoFS stands with its CACE allies against the aggression of the Holy Empire of Water Cooler. While we have only a minimal standing armed force, many of us have recieved training in urban combat and defensive tactics at institutions such as the Buenaventura Durruti Academy of Streetfighting, as well as various community defense trainings, and volunteers for defensive actions can certainly be counted on. Other material support can also be arranged as the situation demands. Together we cannot fail. Solidarity, comrades.

AFoFS Federation Council
The Exetonian Empire
01-10-2004, 17:35
It is the policy of The Government of The Exetonian Empire to stand proudly alongside our friends in The Water Cooler, against the barbarous aggression of the rebel and bandit governments threatening the peace and prosperity of the area. The Government of The Exetonian Empire rejects the lies and propoganda put forward by the rebels and bandits in those states that would threaten the area. We call upon both sides to come to a peacfull solution if possible, but we also realise this is not the traditional style of the rebels and bandits that oppose both The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and freedom.
New Paristan
01-10-2004, 17:43
Message 1:

New Paristan has no formal offensive military capability to speak of. However, we are willing to support our comrades in Caselonia. We offer:

1,000 field medics

1,000 technical specialists--trained in setting up remote command centers and communication equipment

500 specially ouftitted armored hybrid-electric Hum Vees good for troop transport.

We are also gearing up our Proletarian Defense Forces in case of agressive action against our nation by HEWC.


--

Message 2:

The Proletarian Revolutionary Army of New Paristan, our only offensive force, responsible for fomenting revolution in Kist nations, has decided to join the battle.

This decision was reached by the PRA's Standing Offensive Committee, which has authorized the deployment of 5,000 Proletarian Guerilla Troops equipped with submachine guns, body armor and a unique ability to infiltrate and destabilize government institutions. These troops, along with the previously designated medics and such, are to be deployed at the request of Caselonia or other allied nations.

(ooc: er...in other words, tell me where you want my stuff.)
The Water Cooler
01-10-2004, 17:51
Briefing by recently appointed Anton Zee, Minister of Truth, to the worlds media.

http://aspyre.net/quanta/hewc/images/newsreports/_39061593_min-ap-203body.jpg

“The idea that rebels would have a chance of infiltrating our country is so untrue it is amusing.

National Homeland Security is our priority, your attempts to infiltrate our nation in an attempt to undermine our government! Like your laughable economic systems, it will fail!

Be assured. The HEWC is safe, protected from enemy threats.

We are not afraid of the CACE nations. The Cooler has condemned them.
They are stupid. They are stupid *Anton pauses, and then lowers his voice to a conspiratorial whisper* and they are condemned.”
New Paristan
01-10-2004, 20:51
ooc:

lol...

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
New Paristan
01-10-2004, 20:53
ooc: Ok now I'm slightly confused. HEWC: technically you shouldn't know about my guerilla troop deployment, because I didn't tell you about them. My initial thought was that by declaring what I'm going to do, that allows for appropriate role-playing, but doesn't mean that I'm announcing to the world "hey, check out all this stuff I've got."

should I have approached that differently?

I ask because war RPs are not my forte...
Xikuang
02-10-2004, 00:19
In recognition of the right of the people to Caselonia to protect and safeguard their territory both on land and at sea, the Serene Socialist Republic of Xikuang does not acknowledge as legal, precedented, or in any way warranted declaraions of histilities issued by the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler against the Caseonian Federated Socialist Republic. We commend our allies who have already risen to the occasion, and we join them: as an aggressor upon our ally, Caselonia, HEWC is now at war with Xikuang.

We call for the powers that be in the Holy Empire of the Water Cooler to see reason, and to stand down from this uselessly aggressive demonstration. Common ground can be found in any conflict. We are not, as we may have been characterised alongside our equally calumnised allies, a nation of 'rebels' or 'bandits', and we well think that the international community will concur. If the HEWC agrees, we offer to mediate, or, if our mediation is unacceptable, we offer to help to find mediation that is acceptable both to Caselonia and HEWC. If this offer is refused, we will withdraw it, and will stand alongside our CACE and friendly allies, and we will pride both humanitarian and militay assistance to Caselonia.

In hope for peace,

Dr. Xu,
the Elected,
Chair of the Elected General Council of Xikuang;
Elected General Councillor Sarekh Djijirin,
Chair of the Elected General Committee for National Security,
the Serene Socialist Republic of Xikuang
Celdonia
02-10-2004, 00:51
It is the policy of The Government of The Exetonian Empire to stand proudly alongside our friends in The Water Cooler, against the barbarous aggression of the rebel and bandit governments threatening the peace and prosperity of the area. The Government of The Exetonian Empire rejects the lies and propoganda put forward by the rebels and bandits in those states that would threaten the area. We call upon both sides to come to a peacfull solution if possible, but we also realise this is not the traditional style of the rebels and bandits that oppose both The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and freedom.

Extract: editorial column of the Glasburgh Herald

What does Exetonia know of our traditions? Their government and, it would appear, their historians seem to have appeared from nowhere. One of the world’s smallest nations jumps up and down in the hope that the bigger boys in the class will notice it. Well they just might, and they just might decide that Exetonia’s lunch money would be better in their pockets.

The pattern is a familiar one, and it seems to plague most conflicts. Nations whom the average citizen, even those of the more educated provinces, would be hard pressed to place on a map see an opportunity to make their name, and a useful alliance to boot, with any nation they deem ideologically compatible that happens to have gotten itself embroiled in an international spat.

One wonders what the populace of such nations think when they find themselves thrust into conflict with nations that rarely, if ever, are mentioned in domestic news broadcasts. What unfortunate luck to be born into a time that coincides with your nation having a leader hell-bent on making their mark on the international stage with your blood. And let us not pretend that the world of international politics is not a stage, for it appears that we have entered the age of the prima-donna – the “look at me” world leader.

But then again, when civil rights are unheard of and political freedoms are rare at best it possibly doesn’t come as much of a surprise to the poor unfortunate citizens of such regimes to discover that their leaders only regard them as dispensable units to further their own ends. Perhaps one day the people of such nations will seize the opportunity to let their voices be heard. Perhaps it is time that we in the free world encouraged our leaders to listen for these voices.
The Water Cooler
02-10-2004, 04:05
((where not going to start this 'I was founded in 1 5000BC! You can't go to war with me because I rule! My long established armies of doom shall sweep the seas clean, etc, are we? I remember when I joined one of my first (and only) wars, the Amergian Slave crisis, my nation was not much older then Exetonia, and yet, with out any sort of complaint I was allowed to take part. In future I would I would prefer if you did not continually bully my supporters, and ignore them on will.))
The Water Cooler
02-10-2004, 04:07
ooc: Ok now I'm slightly confused. HEWC: technically you shouldn't know about my guerilla troop deployment, because I didn't tell you about them. My initial thought was that by declaring what I'm going to do, that allows for appropriate role-playing, but doesn't mean that I'm announcing to the world "hey, check out all this stuff I've got."

should I have approached that differently?

I ask because war RPs are not my forte...

((It would be wise to assume, given the communist history of aiding insurgencies, that something like that might be tried. And bully on your for giving away my source! ;)))
Rehochipe
02-10-2004, 08:48
Rehochipe, though no longer a member of CACE, is inclined to fulfil commitments to its CACE allies as though it was still under the obligations of a member-state. The Quinquate of Defensive Incapacitation, Aikido and Productive Dialogue is currently in session debating a move to offer aid to its allies, and people's councils around the country are holding an emergency discussion and ballot.

With such powerful militaries as SeOCC, Celdonia, Cirdanistan, Xikuang and Svea Riga on the Caselonian side, consensus is likely to be that additional help from the medium-sized military of Rehochipe would be somewhat superfluous; moreover, Rehochipe has an extremely strong distaste for offensive war and is unlikely to support anything more than defence of Caselonian borders. The current Minister of Defensive Incapacitation, Sensei Amadeus Sable, has already declared his opposition to sending anything more than medical workers, but faces a stiff challenge from ex-Minister Nusku Capleton.

Consensus is undivided, however, that this is a completely unnecessary (and rather petty) conflict, and Head of State Jeanne-Therese Palmaqut was swift in imploring the respective governments of HEotWC and Caselonia to calm down and play nicely.
Cirdanistan
02-10-2004, 12:40
((where not going to start this 'I was founded in 1 5000BC! You can't go to war with me because I rule! My long established armies of doom shall sweep the seas clean, etc, are we? I remember when I joined one of my first (and only) wars, the Amergian Slave crisis, my nation was not much older then Exetonia, and yet, with out any sort of complaint I was allowed to take part. In future I would I would prefer if you did not continually bully my supporters, and ignore them on will.))
[OOC: it would be most unlike Celdonia. His IC response clearly indicates he' snot ignoring Exetonia; i think he's more pointing out that Exetonia is hardly going to be a major player, and having fun-which is what RP is about ;) ]
The Water Cooler
02-10-2004, 13:40
[OOC: it would be most unlike Celdonia. His IC response clearly indicates he' snot ignoring Exetonia; i think he's more pointing out that Exetonia is hardly going to be a major player, and having fun-which is what RP is about ;) ]

((Yes, Indeed. But the statement was also a general caution if you will.))
Cirdanistan
02-10-2004, 15:41
Southern Rigan Sea
It had taken hours for the Baldr squadron to assemble; assembling the surface ships had been swift, although setting out all the orders necessary for the sailing had given more than one staff officer a headache. Then they had had to wait for the submarines, dispersed throughout Southern Aperin waters, to form up in a loose torus around the squadron. Finally, however, the squadron was ready and set its course to the West, the flagship cruiser CRS Baldr flanked by the destroyers Hatti and Skoll, with a screen of eight frigates rotating around the larger warships as they sprinted and drifted, taking turns to maitain mere stearageway while listening for sound in the waters. The speed was limited by the frigates, who's turbines could not keep up with the nuclear-powered destroyers and cruisers.

Message to Caselonia

Baldr squadron dispacthed from Rigan Sea will be arriving incessantly to join Caselonian Naval Forces. Requesting permission to enter Caselonian territorial waters if necessary. Furthermore, with your permission we would seek to deploy the Free Corps 2nd Brigade to Caselonia, in preparation for possible combat missions against the HE of the WC if the war is not defused.
Celdonia
02-10-2004, 16:06
((Yes, Indeed. But the statement was also a general caution if you will.))

OOC: Well of course it was a caution. But it wasn't intended to prevent people from joining in, it was just intended as propaganda because not everyone around here is militarily equal and there's no point pretending otherwise.

For the record, when large nations come into conflict with smaller nations I prefer to keep the scale of the conflict to a level that keeps it more even and no one gets steamrollered. It is after all about having fun, and it's not much fun if you keep getting your ass whooped by someone with a much larger nation. Admittedly it can become a little more complicated if a conflict actually centres around larger nations and a smaller one involves itself, but I'm not into keeping people out.

And Cirdanistan is right: if I'd planned to ignore Exetonia I wouldn't have written an IC response to them. I reserve the right to bully them ICly though, just as I accept that you'll say things about us. All just good fun, and to be honest I prefer the propaganda, gunboat diplomacy and manoeuvring rather than the actual conflict itself.

If anyone has a problem with my approach to this then now is the time to say.
Xikuang
02-10-2004, 16:06
ooc: I read Celdonia's post as an in-character editorial to the Exetonian Empire warning against making grand sweeping statements about nations about which it evidently knows very little and with which it has previously had no interaction. If I may quote the Exetonian Empire's post:

It is the policy of The Government of The Exetonian Empire to stand proudly alongside our friends in The Water Cooler, against the barbarous aggression of the rebel and bandit governments threatening the peace and prosperity of the area. The Government of The Exetonian Empire rejects the lies and propoganda put forward by the rebels and bandits in those states that would threaten the area. We call upon both sides to come to a peacfull solution if possible, but we also realise this is not the traditional style of the rebels and bandits that oppose both The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler, and freedom.

My emphasis: if the leadership of the Exetonian Empire had any acquaintance with the CACE and the nations that comprise it, they would know that most of our attentions are devoted to safeguarding freedom from oppression; that though we do have a few powerful militias amongst us, we historically have devoted massive amounts of energy into avoiding conflict when it has been forced upon us; and that we could hardly be described as 'rebels and bandits'. The Celdonian press has picked up on the irony in the Exetonian statement and the tragedy that its citizens should be led blindly to war when its government issues such bold indictments against nations of whose traditions and styles it is either ignorant, or about which it wishes to deceive its people.

Certainly, not a 'STFU u st00pid n00b I am like teh OLDZ0R!'. That's hardly in Celdonia's style. ;)

This will be my only OOC comment on this. I am already sorry for the thread hijack. Edit: posted at the same time, C! You beat me!
New Paristan
02-10-2004, 20:45
The small platoon of Proletarian Guerilla Fighters quietly pulled their boat up to the eastern shore of the HEWC in the middle of the night and slipped onto the beach. After scuttling their boat, they made their way unseen to [some kind of uninhabited area like a forest] and set up camp.

After deciding on a plan of action, the platoon split up and made their way to small outlying villages.

Phase One of the infiltration was underway.

[ooc: I'm taking some liberties here because I don't know anything about the terrain or geography of HEWC--so adjust this as necessary]
Caselonia
02-10-2004, 21:22
{OOC: NP, please hold off on this for now. Logistically and militarily there would be serious problems with landing an infiltration force, and diplomatic means have not been completely exhausted at this point. So, just as a word of caution, hold off on doing anything that would cause an unecessary and unwanted escalation of hostilities at this point, please.}
Caselonia
02-10-2004, 21:59
{OOC: Much props on using Baghdad Bob, HEWC. That was hilarious, I can't believe I never saw that post before. It has made my evening! :D }
New Paristan
02-10-2004, 23:20
ooc: Ok. Just thought I'd venture out there and get my feet wet. I'll try to coordinate my activities better with the rest of the CACE posse. :-)

ic: Just as quickly as they appeared, the small platoon disappeared into thin air, nobody having seen them, their entire existence erased. They did so with a barely audible "foom" sound that again, nobody heard, thus raising the question of whether the "foom" sound even happened at all.
Xikuang
02-10-2004, 23:37
ooc:

Perhaps we can sort out some suitable guidelines for this RP. Ideally, this should have been done beforehand, but it was rather sprung on us. I would suggest:

1: Only modern tech +1 nations shall be allowed to join

2: Only rational RP will be acknowledged (as in: OutOfTheBlue23 posts: 'OMG! I ill aid teh COMMUNEESTS in all things' will be ignored (no disrespect intended if there actually is a nation called OutOfTheBlue23).

3: Only nations okayed by the main protagonists will be allowed to join.

4: We, the players, reserve the right to ignore idiotic RP. Sounds harsh, but there it is.
Watfordshire
05-10-2004, 10:55
BUMP for idiotic RP.

Has this show moved to a different theatre?
Seocc
05-10-2004, 11:43
is over, it is.
Xikuang
05-10-2004, 14:56
ooc: yes, HEWC has declared peace... somewhere or other.

Heh, sorry, W. "Twas really late and I was feeling tetchy.