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The Union Armed Forces has begun a non-stop 12 hour bombardment on strategic sites of The Free Land of Gaza Strip. The Government and Military refuses to further comment on the actions being taken on Gaza Strip.

2 Infantry Batallions have entered the Soutern tip of the Gaza Strip, and are engaging with the enemy in Rafah. The orders are to proceed cautiously.

The Union Armed Forces has begun a non-stop 12 hour bombardment on strategic sites of The Free Land of Gaza Strip. The Government and Military refuses to further comment on the actions being taken on Gaza Strip.

2 Infantry Batallions have entered the Soutern tip of the Gaza Strip, and are engaging with the enemy in Rafah. The orders are to proceed cautiously.
"The Ottoman Goverment ask Acre Union to leave the Southen Tip of Gaze Strip within 12 hours or face attack from us!"
Grand Vizier Mehmed Pasa Sokollu(second in command)
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AU, your nation is under our control still...you never finished that RP..therefore this thread is void, youve got over a million allied troops in your nation...cant do shit until you deal with us which you cant do :-P

Leave the Gaza Strip alone.

OOC: Wow. That attack was so unjustified, so i'd rather not regard it. Now leave ME alone. Gaza Strip and I have business.

Um....no we will not leave you alone....look at your TG's

President Abdul al-Sema'an:
My fellow Arabs: Today, the Zionist swine have made a grave error. They have crossed the lines drawn in the sand. They have come into our great nation, thinking that we will submit and die. They come seeking our land, and our women. But they will get NEITHER!! We Arabs are a strong people, and we will prevail against the Zionists dogs!! No amout of tanks, men, and guns will silence us!! We WILL NOT be put down!! We WILL NOT be oppressed ANYMORE!!!! The martyrs in Rafah will be avenged. They shall look down from Paradise, and see the Zionists swimming in their own blood!!! For every Arab killed, a THOUSAND Zionists shall follow him to the grave!!

Al-Shahhad military news:
2 squadrens of wooden biplanes have slipped through Zionist radar screens undetected, and have begun strafing enemy positions outside Rafah. At this time, it is unknown how many have returned from combat, but the Zionists, we are told, have suffered some casualties due to the unexpectedness of the attacks.

unjustified my ass....it was totally justified. Failure to respond (and u did respond and start RPin so finish it) will result in the allies taking control of your nation and all of your so called "legal" RP's voided and disregarded.

AU, your nation is under our control still...you never finished that RP..therefore this thread is void, youve got over a million allied troops in your nation...cant do shit until you deal with us which you cant do :-P

Thats the spirit Credonia, out with democracy and diplomacy, in with imperialism!

President Abdul al-Sema'an:
My fellow Arabs: Today, the Zionist swine have made a grave error. They have crossed the lines drawn in the sand. They have come into our great nation, thinking that we will submit and die. They come seeking our land, and our women. But they will get NEITHER!! We Arabs are a strong people, and we will prevail against the Zionists dogs!! No amout of tanks, men, and guns will silence us!! We WILL NOT be put down!! We WILL NOT be oppressed ANYMORE!!!! The martyrs in Rafah will be avenged. They shall look down from Paradise, and see the Zionists swimming in their own blood!!! For every Arab killed, a THOUSAND Zionists shall follow him to the grave!!
If any action is taken against Acre Union then this "Zionist dog" will not hesitate to come to his aid. Forgive me for thinking that you aren't prevailing at the moment. We will send enough tanks to silence you forever! You shall know the true meaning of oppresion if you invade AU.

AU, the terms of surrender have been messaged to you again. That attack was legal, you even half posted somethings, therefore you at the time say it as being fine. Now then, be a nice boy and sign or else you will have a lot more to worry about that just a few reparations

The Ottoman Alliance well defend its members if people feel like they should attack them. Plus most of our members have alliances with other more powerful natios and I doubt that you will be able to put more then a dint on a nation.

I cannot guarantee our nation will become involved in some capacity in defence of the Gaza Strip. The majority arab population of our country has been marching and calling for the defence of our brothers.

If any action is taken against Acre Union then this "Zionist dog" will not hesitate to come to his aid. Forgive me for thinking that you aren't prevailing at the moment. We will send enough tanks to silence you forever! You shall know the true meaning of oppresion if you invade AU.

We will take the actions necessary to defend ourselves. AU attacked us without reason.
And if you feel the need to die with AU, good. Hell could use more Zionists.

We will take the actions necessary to defend ourselves. AU attacked us without reason.
And if you feel the need to die with AU, good. Hell could use more Zionists.
... After all its full of Palestinians.

An official statement:
The Union would like to thank Sanctaphrax in it's support of the protection of Jewish people. The Military has released information that reveals Gaza Strip Nuclear weapons program, which is a very large threat to the Jewish people of the Union. We'd rather not have Jewish people swimming in their own blood.

The military actions of The Union are in the interests of the Jewish people, to protect them and generations of Jews to come. We have come to the realization that the Ottoman Alliance is indeed against Jews, and Jews only. When the time comes, the Armed Forces will not hesitate to resist OA's imperialistic idealogies. The Union will NOT be taken for the good of the OA.

The Star of David has never been stronger.

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Armed Forces in Rafah have come under numerous Guerilla attacks. A tank battalion has been ordered to aid in the engagements. Meanwhile, the bombardment has halted, and 2 Infantry battalions have been ordered to cut through the heart of Khan Yunis in an attempt to surround and suffocate the southern tip of Gaza Strip.

As the Zionists entered Khan Yunis, they were met with little resistance. 1 soldier was lightly wounded in the shoulder when a man, not in military uniform, jumped through the window of his house action movie-style and fired scattered shots with his AK-47 as he fell to the ground. He started to get up, but was promptly cut down in a hail of gunfire.

The troops advanced, block by block, without any serious casualties. At least 27 Arabs were martyred by the time the landmines went off. BOOM!!!!!!! "SHIT!!" yelled one of the soldiers. "FALL BACK!!", yelled the captain. But it was too late. There were mines everywhere. Three soldiers tried to enter a cafe to escape the mines, but as they broke the windows open, the building exploded. It was a trap. Everything, it seemed, was a bomb. There would be no repeat of the 1967 war.

OOC: This is my first RP, so please bear with me if it sucks ass.

Message to Gaza Strip Government
From: Ministry of Defense
We are willing to supply you with modern guns, tanks, weapons, aircraft, anything you require to fight the invaders of your nation.

[OOC: omg its Credonia :rolleyes:]
[OOC2: For your first RP its good]

If any action is taken against Acre Union then this "Zionist dog" will not hesitate to come to his aid. Forgive me for thinking that you aren't prevailing at the moment. We will send enough tanks to silence you forever! You shall know the true meaning of oppresion if you invade AU.

Back off Sanctaphrax. Don't forget who made the first move.

To: Acre Union

From: President of the Ottoman Alliance

Subject: Time left

You currently have by 5:00pm Tommarow to follow our demands or at least contact me. If not we will attack with or troops which are already in your nation.

OOC: I know you have a different time but here it is 12:40am

Back off Sanctaphrax. Don't forget who made the first move.
I won't but between helping a Jew or a Zionist-hater, being a Jew, you know who I'd support I hope.

IC:
*secret telegram to Acre Union*
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If the Ottoman Alliance make so much as one step toward your nation, I shall call in the JDA to help out. For now I won't involve myself needlessly in Gaza but I will defend your nation. If you approve then let me know and i'll transport troops, planes and tanks into your nation to defend your borders.
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Notice on behalf of the Ottoman Alliance and Celtayoshi

The Acre Union shall be defeated if it refuses to sign the treaty and surrender, time is ticking.

OOC:

We have over 1million troops in your nation, your capital is full of troops, we have aircraft, ships everything in your nation. Your government is on the brink of collapse, I think you should take this into consideration.

As for anyone attacking the OA, well, come an get us, we are already in the AU, its just a matter of pushing a little harder and we have totally defeated them, especially since the AU rp his passive resistance in the other thread and let us walk in with about 0 casulties

As for anyone attacking the OA, well, come an get us, we are already in the AU, its just a matter of pushing a little harder and we have totally defeated them, especially since the AU rp his passive resistance in the other thread and let us walk in with about 0 casulties
Can you post a link to that please?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345390 Closed RP tho. Open to only those who were originally involved in the crisis.

Thanks Cred:)
Well it looks like i'm screwed, goodnight folks!

OOC: Okay, this is getting pathetic. How about I finish this with Gaza Strip, and then I surrender to Jewish hating Ottomans?

We Are Not Jewish Haters. You Started It First Buddy

We Are Not Jewish Haters. You Started It First Buddy
I meant Gaza Strip.
The whole "zionist dogs" "zionist scum" etc...

No you this person which to keep from being kick off ns I will be civil


Acre Union OOC: Okay, this is getting pathetic. How about I finish this with Gaza Strip, and then I surrender to Jewish hating Ottomans?

No you this person which to keep from being kick off ns I will be civil
???

OOC:*slap scoyle diplomatic team*

IC: Celtayoshi is not a jewish hating nation, we are a welcoming friendly nation, who encourage open travel.

Celtayoshi will not accept the invasion until after the treaty has been signed, and then which ever article prevents invasion is removed.

OOC: Okay, this is getting pathetic. How about I finish this with Gaza Strip, and then I surrender to Jewish hating Ottomans?


No, finish the shit you started first, then IF you can, finish with the gaza strip RP if you have the resources. Your nation was under attack before this RP and you never finished it..so finish it then you can progress with other war RP's (provided we dont strip your abilities to do so first)

Ministry of Armed Forces

"Celtayoshi has been directed by the Ottoman Alliance to attack the Acre Union for failure to sign the treaty.

Offensive actions shall commence within the next few days, subject to the arrival of the Ottoman Joint Army.

The Acre Union has until then to sign the treaty. There will be no wavering from this position."

OOC: That means i gonna rp an attack on Saturday if you don't sign!

OOC:

*Kicks Celtiyoshi's Foriegn Advisiors
TRY AND REREAD THE THINGS

OOC: Be nice to people, children! :)

IC:

Statement from the Premier of Celtayoshi

"The Acre Union has failed to sign the treaty, it is therefore the duty of our nation along with our allies to remove shuch evil forces. Celtayoshi will not waver from its postition, and shall commence attacks momentarily."

OOC: Do we rp here or the other thread?

other

The Dominion has noted this completely unjustified attack on The Gaza Strip, and is willing to send a bulk of its forces to help The Gaza Strip with the latter's consent.

Also, the army's Hammerhead Division is being re-deployed to the Acre Union to complete its unfinished job there, in accordance with the will of the Ottoman Alliance.

Robert Abdulla
Minister of Foreign Affairs

EDIT - OOC: I know it's closed, but TGS has influence on this RP. If he wants me in, then by golly I'd jump in wholeheartedly.

The Union Armed Forces have completed isolating the southern tip of the Strip by taking Khan Yunis and Rafah. Encampments are being set up outside of heavily populated areas. All civilians have been ordered to stay inside for their own safety.

Meanwhile, 12 F-16's are on their way to Gaza and Jabalya in order to take out power plants there. Hopefully by night fall there will be no light, and the tanks may move in.

OOC: AU..ur an idiot..your being attacked at home and ur trying to push for an invasion of another nation.....how stupid

OOC: I'm not being attacked, I allowed you guys to occupy me without resistance, isn't that good enough?

I won't but between helping a Jew or a Zionist-hater, being a Jew, you know who I'd support I hope.

In typical Zionist fashion, Acre Union attacked me. I did nothing to desere this, other than not being Jewish.

The power plant in Gaza has taken minor damage, as all but 2 of AU's F-16's were shot down. The power plant in Jabalya hasn't reported any sightings of Zionist aircraft.

It should be noted that, after witnessing the attack on Osirak, all Gazan power plants and the surrounding areas have plenty of concealed AA and SAM batteries.

3 armored divisions and and 2 infantry brigades have been sent to recapture Rafah.
There have been heavy casualties, both Gazan and AU, in Khan Yunis, as both civilians and what few soldiers remain attack AU forces, some armed only with paintball and BB guns. Hospitals are filled beyond capacity in both cities.

OOC: I'm not being attacked, I allowed you guys to occupy me without resistance, isn't that good enough?

Nope, we offered you a treaty which has been turned down, now yo suffere the consequences

Nope, we offered you a treaty which has been turned down, now yo suffere the consequences
HEEHEE, you want to attack a country thats already yours?
That would be like Bush nuking Iraq.

Its not ours, we stopped short of blowing everything up and taking complete control, what we are doing now is destroying the remaining symbols of the old regime, and then toppling it.

Its not ours, we stopped short of blowing everything up and taking complete control, what we are doing now is destroying the remaining symbols of the old regime, and then toppling it.

No, what we're doing now is re-making Iraq a US puppet.

The power plant in Gaza has taken minor damage, as all but 2 of AU's F-16's were shot down. The power plant in Jabalya hasn't reported any sightings of Zionist aircraft.

It should be noted that, after witnessing the attack on Osirak, all Gazan power plants and the surrounding areas have plenty of concealed AA and SAM batteries.

3 armored divisions and and 2 infantry brigades have been sent to recapture Rafah.
There have been heavy casualties, both Gazan and AU, in Khan Yunis, as both civilians and what few soldiers remain attack AU forces, some armed only with paintball and BB guns. Hospitals are filled beyond capacity in both cities.

The Forces in Khan Yunis have been suffering from strange tactics and irregular fighting from both Civilian and Para/Military targets. However, tanks have been ordered to reinforce and fortify the streets to brace for the Palestinian counter offensive.

Khan Yunis would have to fall before recapturing Rafah. Meanwhile, artillery placements in Rafah begin bombarding small towns Northeast of Khan Yunis in preparation for the Palestinian counteroffensive.

2 Union divisions have been ordered to seperate from the rest of the Khan Yunis force and mobilize eastward to the Bani Suhaylah area, in case of a major flank.

No, what we're doing now is re-making Iraq a US puppet.

yes, except withthe AU we ain't trying to hide that fact.

AU, continue with your attacks upon TGS and you WILL be nuked to hell and back. You can quote me on that. Dont push me, and i'll be actiing independent of the OA on your nuking if needs be. Try me!

Gazan forces have engaged the enemy on the outskirts of Rafah.
Meanwhile, the battle in Khan Yunis intensifies, as Gazan reinforcements have arrived.

Credonia, you're pathetic. You're willing to wipe out entire populations in an attempt to put down their struggle in the protection of fellow Jewish brothers and sisters?

Credonia, you're pathetic. You're willing to wipe out entire populations in an attempt to put down their struggle in the protection of fellow Jewish brothers and sisters?

Protection my ass. You attacked us without warning and without a reason. You deserve what you get. You're gonna get bogged down in Gaza, just like RL Israel. Beautiful. HAHAHA!!

The Union Armed Forces can afford whatever costs to protect the Jewish people. You can either keep your civilians and military unarmed, or war will continue. If you wish for peace, allow the Union Armed Forces to set up bases in Gaza.

Protection my ass. You attacked us without warning and without a reason. You deserve what you get. You're gonna get bogged down in Gaza, just like RL Israel. Beautiful. HAHAHA!!
Bogged down??? Since when is 20 odd militants killed in 2 days "bogged down"??? You haven't killed that many people in the last year.

Credonia, you're pathetic. You're willing to wipe out entire populations in an attempt to put down their struggle in the protection of fellow Jewish brothers and sisters?


No, im willing to wipe YOUR nation out if you continue on this wreckless path. You have exactly 72 hours to call forth a total unconditional surrender to both the Ottoman Alliance and TGS and remove all of your forces from TGS IMMEDIATELY. Failure to do so will result in the destruction of your nation.

On my command, Credonian strategic nuclear forces have been upgraded to DEFCON 2. Preparations will be getting underway in the next few hours to prepare for nuclear weapons release. SSBN naval assets are being sent their orders and are positiing themselves to release their nuclear weapons upon your nation.

Last chance AU. This and all conflicts involving you WILL stop whether you voluntarily stop them or I do it for you. If you want to continue to have a nation on here, SURRENDER NOW! The fun and games have ended.

To all OA forces, the Credonian government suggests that all allied forces be pulled out of AU ASAP and positioned outside of AU territorial waters, out of harms way from any and all nuclear blasts that will occur on AU's territory. Credonian military forces will recieve orders to pull back as well in the next hour.

[Sunshield | Noisemaker | Encryption][Celtayoshi Military Dispach, AU GROUND][Celtayoshi Military Dispach, AU AIR][Celtayoshi Military Dispach, AU NAVY][Celtayoshi Military Dispach, OTTOMAN JOINT ARMY][Celtayoshi Military Dispach, AU INTEL]

Urgent retreat orders, all commanders execute CMSRP5. (Celtayoshi Military Strategic Retreat Plan 5). Ottoman Forces to be reapponited with commanders familar to CMSRP5. Recon Forces to ensure complete removal. Authorisation [Tango Delta Bravo Foxtrot Zulu 057392785207CMSRP5]
Acknoledge and go, reply on completion, effective immediately.

[Dispach Ends]

Credonia, forces are moving out from Celtayoshi Army and Ottoman Joint Army, we are spreading word, however as each soldier must be removed it willt ake time, Celtayoshi Air Force and Celtayoshi Navy are excuting [Operation: Withdrawal Symptoms] to remove all forces to secure locations, estimate 4 days to complete. We urge against nuclear force. All units ordered under ceasefire to prevent friendly fire.

-tagged-

Celtayoshi, Very well. Credonia does not condone the use of nuclear military force, however, all viable ends have been reached and all avenues of conventional diplomacy via negotiations and conventional warfare have failed. Now is a time to step up and make the stakes higher. We cannot allow such nations such as Acre Union to continue to disregard our demands and allow them to continue attacking innocent nations. AU poses a threat to the national security of all nations who believe in freedom of religion, life, and liberty. We must combat this enemy and defeat the threat. We must use any and all means necessary to do so, and if it calls for a little nuclear muscle, then we must be prepared to continue to stand up for what is right and, if needs be, back our words up with our nuclear forces. Welcome to the big leagues of modern warfare and nuclear diplomacy.

OOC: BTW, what you see is NOT a shift in Credonian military thinking. It is a shift in tactics. Conventional tactics have failed, so now its time to bring out the side of Credonia that most of you guys havent seen. The more "violent" yet peaceful and forceful side that the NS community came to know oh so well, respect, and fear.

sorry, could you post a link to the "failed diplomatic negotiations"? Also, nuking every nation you don't like will not make you very popular, not that you are anyway but...

Celtayoshi, Very well. Credonia does not condone the use of nuclear military force, however, all viable ends have been reached and all avenues of conventional diplomacy via negotiations and conventional warfare have failed. Now is a time to step up and make the stakes higher. We cannot allow such nations such as Acre Union to continue to disregard our demands and allow them to continue attacking innocent nations. AU poses a threat to the national security of all nations who believe in freedom of religion, life, and liberty. We must combat this enemy and defeat the threat. We must use any and all means necessary to do so, and if it calls for a little nuclear muscle, then we must be prepared to continue to stand up for what is right and, if needs be, back our words up with our nuclear forces. Welcome to the big leagues of modern warfare and nuclear diplomacy.

OOC: BTW, what you see is NOT a shift in Credonian military thinking. It is a shift in tactics. Conventional tactics have failed, so now its time to bring out the side of Credonia that most of you guys havent seen. The more "violent" yet peaceful and forceful side that the NS community came to know oh so well, respect, and fear.

The Union's purpose is the protection of Jews. We do not oppress anyone, unless oppressed. The Gaza Strip had nuclear capability, and for the sake of our people, we had to move in on it. We have not committed genocide, nor have we caused a lot of damage. We simply hold Khan Yunis and Rafah, key cities in The Gaza Strip. It is simply to give warning to their nuclear capabilities. The Union despises the use of Nuclear weapons.

However, it seems the Ottoman Alliance has only one purpose, and that's to throw the Jewish people to the graves. At this very moment, military armories are being publicly opened to the masses, and the civilians are being armed with our assortments of Galils.

They have the right to chase out your oppressive forces. After all, you've only given them so long to live.

To die with the Star of David.

Paramilitary forces have begun engaging enemy forces in their attempt to retreat.

We simply hold Khan Yunis and Rafah, key cities in The Gaza Strip.

You barely have a grip on Khan Younis, and Rafah is 50/50.

Speaking of Rafah, the battle in going good for Gazan troops. There are few "civilian" casualties, as most people have guns and attack passing AU troops. Official Gazan military casualties are quite high, though not unexpected (Zionist troops are among the best in the world). The only significant problems are AU tanks, which outclass Gazan tanks significantly, and Gaza has few other anti-tank weaponry. 1 more tank regiment is on its way to Rafah to help push AU out of the city completely. Victory is expected in 2-3 days.

In its attempts to "protect" the Jewish people, Acre Union has instigated a war to exterminate an entire race. We have already seen the effects of one holocaust, and will not stand for another.

The Dominion supports Credonia's and Celtayoshi's stands, and will fight alongside them to subdue the menace that is Acre Union once and for all.

Neils Ferdinand
Minister of Defense

We're nearing the 24 hour mark. You still have a chance to surrender. Surrender now and lay down your weapons and this can end peacefully with no further deaths to either side.

Credonian military forces remain at DEFCON 2.

On my command Credonian chemical and biological strategic forces are being upgraded to DEFCON 3.

sorry, could you post a link to the "failed diplomatic negotiations"? Also, nuking every nation you don't like will not make you very popular, not that you are anyway but...

There isnt a link to any thread. Everything has been done through backchannels. We telegrammed AU a conprehensive and most generous peace treaty but he failed to sign it in the name of peace.

If the rest of the alliance is after AU then I guess I will stand by them although i am against credoina using WMD's If the terms are not meet by the specified time I’m going join this war.

Mental land rapid response troops are now preparing to deploy. I would seriously consider surrendering if I were you AU.

There isnt a link to any thread. Everything has been done through backchannels. We telegrammed AU a conprehensive and most generous peace treaty but he failed to sign it in the name of peace.
"most generous"? When people say stuff like that I get suspicious. Can you please post here or send me in a TG the full treaty?

At this very moment, military armories are being publicly opened to the masses, and the civilians are being armed with our assortments of Galils.

They have the right to chase out your oppressive forces. After all, you've only given them so long to live.

To die with the Star of David.

Paramilitary forces have begun engaging enemy forces in their attempt to retreat.

OOC: Hmm, thats why this is a predrawn plan for retreat and now my response.

Celtayoshi State News

"As militant forces began attacking retreating peacekeeping forces in the Acre Union today the Celtayoshi Air Force has announced the systematic destruction of every civilian recreational facility, from the largest stadiums to the smallest corner parks, not a patch of green shall be left. The retreating forces have been ordered to destroy and police stations during their retreat. Leaflets encouraging the masses to leave the Acre Union have been handed out, every civilian has been offered a chance to be removed from the area to a secure location, to be sent to a new nation after the destruction of the Acre Union. These leaflets also show that the Ottoman Alliance is not against Jewish people, and has no quarrel with the average citizen.

The majority of the forces have now left the Acre Union, those left are reporting attacks form disorganised people, which has been easily delt with."

As for the treaty, here it is, in full, no edit.

Terms for the surrender of the Acre Union

1. Government
a. The pre-war government shall be removed from office.
b. A goverment of the chosing of the allied forces shall be installed for period of no less than 2 years.
b(i). The allied forces may however chose to disband this goverment at their discression by majority vote.
c. After a period of 2 years the people of the Acre Union shall chose a democratically elected government.
d. Tha Acre Union shall allow moderate religions to freely practice without hinderance.

2. Military
a. The Acre Union shall disband all military forces down to a size no larger than 1/4 that of Ottoman Kaif.
b. The areas where the Acre Union borders outside nations are to be demilitarised for 25km into the Acre Union.
b(i). Forces of the Ottoman Alliance will be permitted into this demilitarised zone should the need arise.
c. The Ottoman Alliance shall seize the Acre Unions current largest Naval Base and turn it into an allied base of operations.
d. The Acre Union will destroy all WMD in its possesion.
e. The Acre Union shall not commit an aggressive action with its army.
f. The Acre Union shall be required to submit a large military base for the use of the Ottoman Alliance

3. Reparations
a. The Acre Union agrees to signing a war guilt clause, with declares that they were the reason for this war due to agreesive action and as a result they are liable to pay damages.
b. The Acre Union will therefore have to pay a total of $2billion to each nation involved in the fighting, as well as $500,000 in compensation to the family of each soldier killed as a result of the action.

4. Failure to sign/breaking the treaty.
a(i). Should the Acre Union not sign the treaty The Ottoman Alliance shall sieze his nation and run it for the benifit of the Ottoman Alliance.
a(ii). The Acre Union will pay 10billion to each nation and will have a new treaty drafted at the pleasure of the Ottoman Alliance.
b. Should the Acre Union break the terms of the treaty the clause 4a(i)second half and 4a.(ii) will apply

The Union's grip in Khan Younis is stronger than the Gazan statements. The killings of civilians has been discouraged, but it's difficult to tell between Military forces and civilians. Union Armed Forces have been ordered to fight less aggressively in attempt to come to a truce in TGS.

Meanwhile, on the homefront, masses have been fleeing/fleding( whatever, english is good for an israeli ) But there are still many that have been commencing attacks on the enemy forces. Mortars have also been directed at enemy soldiers.

The Union Government has left all official buildings that remained standing and have fled to a country which will not be disclosed. Any civilians wishing to flee will know where to go.

TGS, Credonia is willing to send forces to your nation to repel AU's forces and reclaim your land for you. Give us the word and let us know what you need and we will give you joint command of our forces to use against the imperial invader.

Credonia:
Military withdrawal is 75% complete, 5 military bases remain, the others that were under our control have been destroyed in accordance with CMSRP5.

TGS:
We too will help you with fighting the Acre Union. With the mass withdrawal we have thousands of troops to give for your defense.

As for the treaty, here it is, in full, no edit.

Terms for the surrender of the Acre Union

1. Government
a. The pre-war government shall be removed from office.
b. A goverment of the chosing of the allied forces shall be installed for period of no less than 2 years.
b(i). The allied forces may however chose to disband this goverment at their discression by majority vote.
c. After a period of 2 years the people of the Acre Union shall chose a democratically elected government.
d. Tha Acre Union shall allow moderate religions to freely practice without hinderance.

2. Military
a. The Acre Union shall disband all military forces down to a size no larger than 1/4 that of Ottoman Kaif.
b. The areas where the Acre Union borders outside nations are to be demilitarised for 25km into the Acre Union.
b(i). Forces of the Ottoman Alliance will be permitted into this demilitarised zone should the need arise.
c. The Ottoman Alliance shall seize the Acre Unions current largest Naval Base and turn it into an allied base of operations.
d. The Acre Union will destroy all WMD in its possesion.
e. The Acre Union shall not commit an aggressive action with its army.
f. The Acre Union shall be required to submit a large military base for the use of the Ottoman Alliance

3. Reparations
a. The Acre Union agrees to signing a war guilt clause, with declares that they were the reason for this war due to agreesive action and as a result they are liable to pay damages.
b. The Acre Union will therefore have to pay a total of $2billion to each nation involved in the fighting, as well as $500,000 in compensation to the family of each soldier killed as a result of the action.

4. Failure to sign/breaking the treaty.
a(i). Should the Acre Union not sign the treaty The Ottoman Alliance shall sieze his nation and run it for the benifit of the Ottoman Alliance.
a(ii). The Acre Union will pay 10billion to each nation and will have a new treaty drafted at the pleasure of the Ottoman Alliance.
b. Should the Acre Union break the terms of the treaty the clause 4a(i)second half and 4a.(ii) will apply
So basically it says:
1 Government
a) To hell with democracy or what the people want, we demand that the democratically elected government be thrown out.
b) We will turn AU into our own puppet by installing our government, again to hell with democracy.
b2) If the allies see that this government is too sympathetic to AU then they can disband it.)
c) After 2 years in which we have flooded the area with Ottoman Khaif and Credonian men we shall hold democratic elections.
d) Please name a point where he said that he didn't.

2 Military
a) We will ensure that Acre Union will not be able to defend themselves from any aggresion if after the 2 years we decide to continue to rule.
b) We will cut down the size of Acre Union to serve our own, imperialistic means.
c) We can't be bothered to build a shipyard so we'll just steal Acre Unions.
d) If Acre Union has WMD then this is a reasonable request, of course you will disband all your WMD as well.
e) If we decide to attack Acre Union, on no account must they fight back.
f) Look at c.

3 Reparations
a) Acre Union will have to sign a paper stating that Credonia did nothing wrong.
b) We will bankrupt Acre Union so that their economy may never recover. We ask that you pay half a million to the families of the brave soldiers because they got killed while shooting civilians. As previously stated, self defense is in no way allowed. A further 2Bn is to be sent to all the nations who attacked Acre Union because... I'll get back to you on that one.

4 Failure to sign
a) Should they fail to sign, the Ottoman Alliance will take over his nation to satisfy their imperialistic greed. Note that this was all done through backchannels so that no-one has any way of knowing whether Acre Union actually did sign the treaty or not.
b) We have come back for more money because we blew all the previous money you donated on taking over some other nation who didn't let us take over him. 10Bn each should do it. We will also draft a new treaty in which every Acre Union citizen has to wear a Star of David on his shirt to identify him, they can't go and have fun with non-Jews and they must go to different schools and workplaces to the Ottoman Alliance.


A much better worded version of what you meant to say don't you think?

OOC: Wow.. talk about distorting information! That "translation" came right out of your ass, did it not?

IC:

The Dominion urges TGS to allow GMB peacekeeping forces to enter the area and repel the invading imperialists. The threat posed to this world by Acre Union can not and will not be ignored any further.

OOC: Wow.. talk about distorting information! That "translation" came right out of your ass, did it not?

IC:

The Dominion urges TGS to allow GMB peacekeeping forces to enter the area and repel the invading imperialists. The threat posed to this world by Acre Union can not and will not be ignored any further.
Don't even claim that that treaty was anything near generous, i distorted nothing. You claim that he should pay all the nations involved because you attacked him? You seem to demand a lot and not give much back in return. I mean, $500'000 for each soldier's family who got killed? Are you crazy?

So basically it says:
1 Government
a) To hell with democracy or what the people want, we demand that the democratically elected government be thrown out.
b) We will turn AU into our own puppet by installing our government, again to hell with democracy.
b2) If the allies see that this government is too sympathetic to AU then they can disband it.)
c) After 2 years in which we have flooded the area with Ottoman Khaif and Credonian men we shall hold democratic elections.
d) Please name a point where he said that he didn't.

2 Military
a) We will ensure that Acre Union will not be able to defend themselves from any aggresion if after the 2 years we decide to continue to rule.
b) We will cut down the size of Acre Union to serve our own, imperialistic means.
c) We can't be bothered to build a shipyard so we'll just steal Acre Unions.
d) If Acre Union has WMD then this is a reasonable request, of course you will disband all your WMD as well.
e) If we decide to attack Acre Union, on no account must they fight back.
f) Look at c.

3 Reparations
a) Acre Union will have to sign a paper stating that Credonia did nothing wrong.
b) We will bankrupt Acre Union so that their economy may never recover. We ask that you pay half a million to the families of the brave soldiers because they got killed while shooting civilians. As previously stated, self defense is in no way allowed. A further 2Bn is to be sent to all the nations who attacked Acre Union because... I'll get back to you on that one.

4 Failure to sign
a) Should they fail to sign, the Ottoman Alliance will take over his nation to satisfy their imperialistic greed. Note that this was all done through backchannels so that no-one has any way of knowing whether Acre Union actually did sign the treaty or not.
b) We have come back for more money because we blew all the previous money you donated on taking over some other nation who didn't let us take over him. 10Bn each should do it. We will also draft a new treaty in which every Acre Union citizen has to wear a Star of David on his shirt to identify him, they can't go and have fun with non-Jews and they must go to different schools and workplaces to the Ottoman Alliance.


A much better worded version of what you meant to say don't you think?

First of all OOC: I found that quite funny, and now for my reply

1 Government
a) yes, as they tried to destroy other nations to satisfy their imperial needs
b) for two years yes
b2) if this governemtn shows total incompetence then we may disband it
c) democraticaly yes
d) i never siad he didn't this just ensures he won't

2 Military
a) yup, we shal defend him form imperalistic nations
b) fo our own preotection
c) Yup, with there smaller navy they won't need it.
d) No, since he has a claerly unstable government
e) duh.
f) look at c.

3 Reparations
a) of course
b) Each soldier was killed and the people who did so shall be punished.

4 Failure to sign
a) WE take over you becuase that is how we can guarantee peace
b) We want more money cause you broke the treaty and should be punished, you wil now do as we say altohugh we are reasonable people

I just have 1 point, I wondered whether someone would actually reply or just say "ah thats distorted, you're lying aaggghhhhhh" so well done. My point is that Acre Union never threatened to use WMD, Credonia did on more than one occasion, therefore he is a threat and his WMD should be disbanded. Also instead of all that complications, why not just get him to sign a non-aggresion pact that says he won't attack you?

OOC- I was involved from the begining with the Acre Union situation, just I didn't post much. Is this closed to me?

you can help in the Gaza strip, but not the actual invasion of AU, unless involved in the other thread.

you can help in the Gaza strip, but not the actual invasion of AU, unless involved in the other thread.
He should be allowed, It's a slightly... unfair situation at the moment. 10 of you against 1 of him.

OOC: Well.. the just side always attracts more followers, am I not right?

You're more than welcome to team up with him.

He should be allowed, It's a slightly... unfair situation at the moment. 10 of you against 1 of him.

fine, but bearing in mind that the AU is almost surrounded by over one millino troops i really fail to see what he can do to help in defending the AU

Alright. We shall see.
Whats the link for the other thread?

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345390&highlight=acre+union

The other thread.

Celtayoshi and Credonia:
The Gazan people would be very grateful for any assistance in repelling the Zionist invaders. Our armies are not as advanced as the Zionists, but God is our side, and we will never give up!!

Meanwhile, the situation has deteriorated. Khan Yunis is entirely in Zionist hands, and Gazan forces control less than 10% of Rafah. The power plant in Jabaliya has been damaged beyond repair, and Zionist forces have been spotted on it's outskirts. All Gazan forces have been ordered to retreat to Gaza City, were we hold our last stand. Some are comparing the expected battle of Gaza to the Battle of Stalingrad. If we die, we die fighting!!

The Celtayoshi Army is now diverting some 25,000 retreating units to the defense of Gaza City, once there they will follow orders from TGS on wher to be placed.

Air Base, Acre Union

"Move it, we need everyone out of here by noon today. Aircraft one through five are waiting there, six to twenty are waiting on the south side."

At that moment a band of armed civilians showed up firing at the soldiers.

"Get the 67th on to that, 91st you flank them on both sides, get them all dead. Wehre the hell is the Perimeter guard?"

"Sir the guard is down, and loading weapons."

"Dammit, get moving, this is only going to slow us up."

The soldiers moved rapidy towards cover, before rushing up on the civilians, the odds were totally against the non military cilvilians, and what resulted was an easy victory. Without time to attend the wounded Celtayoshi forces had to pull off, and they were already late. These units were heading for The Gaza Strip.

100th Mechanized INfantry Division, Fort Hemmingsway Army Base, Credonia

"Men, our orders are in, were packing up and shipping out to The Gaza Strip to help repel the invaders there. Celtayoshian forces are already enroute. It looks like were definitly going to get a piece of the action. After the invasion of TGS has been taken care of, we will head to Acre Union, that is, if it isnt left a smoldering crater. Those are our orders, now pack your trash and move out. FALL OUT!!!!"

OOC: For reference, the 100th Mech. Infantry division has this many men:
100,000 G.I.'s
20,000 Special Forces
100 M1A1 Abrams Tanks
325 T-64 Tanks
125 KS1 SAMS
240 M103 Heavy Tanks
100 M113 APC's
155 M-270 MLRS Rocket Artilliary
165 M1A2 Abram Tanks
155 G6 155 MM Self Propelled Howitzer
165 M2 Bradley APC's
125 M-15 Light Tanks
100 Hawk ARSAM
75 Patriot Missile Systems
225 T-95UM Main Battle Tanks
225 M-26 Main Battle Tanks
225 PzH 2000 (Panzerhaubitze 2000) 155mm Howitzers

Union soldiers have been ordered to bunker in. Local hospitals are sandbagged inch by inch, and any other compound that may offer cover for the oncoming attackers. Civilians are ordered to remain inside, but curfew has been lifted for lunch and dinner time, which has a 30 minute window at 12 and 6 pm. In Khan Younis, there is an ammunition shortage and a convoy from Rafah is heading there at this moment.

The Divisions that went to the outskirts to cover a flank have now been ordered to force their way through the uncontrolled areas of Gaza. That's around 2,000 infantry men.

OOC: Is it too late to join the thread?
IC: From Fox News Eretz:
"The Department of External Affairs has identified likely hostile action against the Kramden by the states of Celtayoshi and Credonia. The reasons given by the department have been extensive interference by Credonia in Acre Union internal affairs and threats by the two entities against commerce with Acre Union and Sanctaphrax.

Identification came through a Writ of Mandamus to the Civil Supreme Court, which will meet in executive session tomorrow for consideration. The Writ requests recall of all West Cedarbrook citizens from the two entities, expulsion of their nationals for West Cedarbrook, and impoundment of all assets and properties of the two entities on West Cedarbrook territory and territorial waters".

Official Government Response

Ouyr actiosn in no way shape or form threatens or jeopardizes your nations commerce, furthermore, should you seize Credonian and Celtayoshian (sp?) assets, we will send adequare numbers of troops in to reclaim and protect them as that will be seen as an act of war.

Official Celtayoshian Response

By moving troops, at the request of The Gaza States we are not conducting an offensive operation, instead we are defending our principles. IN the Acre Union Celtayoshi has a duty to defend its allies, and using definitive proof of a likely attakc staged agaisnt oru allies the Ottoman Alliance, spearheaded by Credonia and Celtayoshi invaded The Acre Union to prevent his imperialistic actions.

The Celtayoshi troops arrived at Gaza City right on time. The Battle of Gaza was about to start.

As the Gazan troops rejoiced at not having to fight alone, artillery started falling nearby. The Gazans responded with their own artillery fire, but not with much luck, as most of the troops were poorly and quickly trained conscripts. The Celtayoshi troops, however, showed almost no fear. "Let us operate the artillery." said the Celtayoshi commander. The Gazan captain agreed, and was amazed that Gazan weapons could be that accurate. Most Gazan soldiers were humbled by the Celtayoshi soldiers' show of skill.
"Credonian forces are on their way. We'll hold off AU until they get here." Many Gazans broke down and wept out of joy, with some even kissing the feet of the Celtayoshis. Between artillery shots the phrase "Allahu akbar" could be heard from Gaza City.

"Men, we have a tough fight ahead of us. We are to leave this base in exactly one hour. Other units of the division are mobilizing elsewhere. We will head over to The Gaza Strip top protect what land they have left, and reclaim the cities they have lost.

This operation is being conducted alongside our allies, Credonia and Celtayoshi, to repel the invaders: Acre Union..

You all know about that Zionist Theocracy.. Hell, you've been in AU yourself.. You men were some of the first units to set foot in AU during the OA campaign against those bastards..

In summary, your objectives are:

1. Destroy all AU assets in The Gaza Strip.
2. Repel AU forces in The Gaza Strip and work alongside allies to re-establish TGS sovereignity.
3. Defend TGS until command decides what to do about Acre Union.

Your planes depart in fifty-eight minutes. Dismissed

OOC:

Forces being deployed to TGS

Primary Regiment: 1st "Striker" Division

(8,000) Standard Infantrymen

(30) T-90
(60) M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank
(40) Leopard 2A5 Tanks
(60) D-11 Apocalypse Tanks
(10) D-71 Sabre UMBTs

Other:

LAV/LAV-ADs
M163A2 Vulcan Air Defense Systems
M270 MLRS Self-Propelled Loader/Launchers
M109A6 Paladin Self Propelled Howitzers

======================

(10) Tornado GR-4s
(10) F-4G Advanced Wild Weasels
(15) Mig 29s
(15) F-15 Strike Eagles

Sudenly, a huge ekuroplan landed and taxied right up to the beach and from its exit poured hundreds of fast attack tanks, the new T3.

The Skies above Gaza City

The first flight of B-6b Bombers throttled back from their Mach-3 approach speed and began preparing their bombing runs.

Behind them two more flights of 6 aircraft each came, at four minute intervals.


One by one the aircraft opened their bomb bays and dropped their ordenance at their targets, closed the bomb bays and climbed whilst turning back towards the direction they came from.

Most were aimed at identified enemy tanks and concentrations of fuel and supply vehicles, detected by satellites even as the planes approached their targets.

The bombs, a mixture of GBU-29's and GBU-24's fell towards the ground with their onboard GPS making slight adjustment to the flight patterns as they went so that they would hit exactly.

It was hoped that this only contribution by USIH forces to the current effort against AU forces in Gaza would nonetheless be a vital one.

Hi, welcome to the RP. And you're here because??? If you don't have an actual purpose (i.e an alliance involved) then you should probably stay out.

Hi, welcome to the RP. And you're here because??? If you don't have an actual purpose (i.e an alliance involved) then you should probably stay out.

Independent Hitmen is a member of the Ottoman Alliance

Survo is ignored until that is rp properly and i find otu who he is.

IC: Celtayoshi Infantry Divisions took up shelter in the City, they were preparing for battle, and knew that if they showed no fear the Gaza Strip soldiers wwould be motivated. The Commanders were already going over battle plans, and several divisional units were assisting The Gaza strip operation of there weaponary. For the moment orders were to hold position and wait for Greenmabry forces and Credonian forces before launching an offensive operation. Air Force strikes were now a regular occurance, although a damage estimate had yet to come through it was widely believeed the Acre Union was suffering a supply shortage.

OOC: Yes sorry meant to mention that, that is my sole contribution to this, as its already a whitewash by the looks of it.

OOC: does that mean that all alliance members can join in coz i'm getting an ichy trigger finger

</Internal Memo - Kramden of West Cedarbrook, Treasurer, Office of the Comptroller of Currency>
To: All Banks and Financial Depository Institutions operating in West Cedarbrook

The Treasurer has issued a Disaster Recovery Order. Effecive immediately implement Disaster Recovery Procedures.

Security for the Recovery is under the authority of the Defense Intellegence Organization. All communications about this Recovery are under the authority of the Defense Intellegence Organization.

Your Information Systems will operate under the authority of your assigned Defense Intellegence Officer for the duration of the Recovery. Violations of orders from DIO are punishable under martial and criminal law, up to and including the Board of Directors of the Institution.
</end internal memo>

</Internal Memo - Kramden of West Cedarbrook, Department of Internal Affairs, Transportation Division>
All costal ports are now under the control of the Defense Intellegence Organization. This does not extend to riverine ports. Ports will operate under the authority of your assigned Defense Intellegence Officer until further instructions from the Transportation Division.

Violations of orders from DIO are punishable under martial and criminal law.
</end internal memo>

Union Armed Forces have been left with no choice but to enforce a 24/7 curfew. Anyone seen other than a Union soldier will be shot on the spot. Meanwhile, enemy artillery barrages and bombardments has put dozens of soldiers to rest.

In an attempt to show edge, Union artillery targets have been shifted to mosques and military hospitals. The mosques are being used to arm Gazan civilians in their attempt to lay down even more Jewish people.

Just 5 hours after the rising casualty reports coming in, 2 bombs went off in the capital of Celtayoshi. A group, calling themselves The Jewish Defense League has claimed responsibility for the attacks.

( I'll let you determine damage and such )

Inside president Assad's war room:

President Assad: Gentlemen, our forces have already recieved Celtayoshi support in the battle, and will soon be reinforced by Credonian and Greenmanbrian forces soon. The tide of battle is about to turn.
In signs of desparation, the Zionist invader has begun attacking our mosques and hospitals. They have already killed many of our women and children. We cannot ignore these despicable actions!! What should our response be?

General Hafez Hassan: We should nuke their Zionist asses to the hell they belong in, that's what we should do!! Our silos are already prepared for a launch. Just gimme the word, sir.

Assad: No, not yet. If we use a nuclear strike, we risk losing our allies and bringing more Zionists into our lands, not to mention the Zionists would respond with their own stragic strikes. It would hurt us more than it would hurt them.

Brig. General Roger Abboud: Well, the tide is turning, like you said, sir. So all we really need to do is continue repelling the invaders. I think an appropriate response would be to execute all AU POWs. Not only is it an eye for an eye, but it would hurt our enemy's military in the long run, too.

Defense Minister Ezzat Abdullah: I think we need to concentrate on winning the war first. I'm against a nuclear strike, but I don't think we should execute anyone. We should hold the POWs as leverage to get compensation. I understand the desire for retribution, but God will judge them in the end. We don't need to.

Assad: Good point, Ezzat. Alright. We'll follow your advise. No nuclear strikes, and no POW executions, for now. We will discuss this again after victory is assured. Dismissed.

Sanctaphrax condemns these latest attacks by Acre Union. Mosques and hospitals should not, under any circumstances be bombed. We believe that this war has gone on for long enough and we would like a peace conference to be held in Sanctaphrax to discuss a slightly more reasonable treaty.

OOC: ah what the hell I’m coming to help out.

IC: After several days of travel the 3 large troop logistic and landing ships each pulled into one of the harbours of the Gaza strip. They wasted little time as the unloading cranes and harbour staff were prepping the ship for unloading equipment seconds after the ship had docked eager to get the troops and equipment that the ships carried into the fight.

Each ship carried.

4000 infantry (carrying XM8 Assault rifles some in SAW configuration.
Between them carrying some javelin anti amour missiles and
starstreak anti air missiles.)
100 Challenger 2 MBT's
150 Warrior multi purpors vehicle
125 piranha APC's

Together they made the 63rd mechanized division

In just a few hours these troops will be heading off to help stop the AU's slaughter of innocent people.

OOC: This is getting ridiculous. I'll accept ML because he already said a while ago that he wanted to join, other than him i'm starting to ignore people. Sorry Tylinoa but you're first.

IC: Sanctaphrax reiterate their calls for a peace conference due to the amount of civilian casualties involved. We feel that Acre Union are getting out of control and yet that the "peace treaty" was in no way acceptable. Please telegram with confirmation of your arrival to the conference. You may supply any security you wish.

OOC: thats fine i just was asking if anyone else is allowed in, i will delete my post.

Belfast, Capital of Celtayoshi

Celtayoshi State News

"...The two bombs have destroyed part of the East Port and the Celtayoshi Stadium has suffered major structural failure on the South Stand. The mood on the streets is calling for blood, anger is everywhere. Our latest reports indicate the Celtayoshi State Intelligence Service has begun the largest manhunt ever, with hundreds of officers now commited to taking down this terrorist group. They also have announced that this is state sponsered terrorism and the Acre Union is behind it..."

"Sorry i'm gonig to have to cut you off there the Premier is giving a speech..."

Speech by the Premier of Celtayoshi, "Look around you, see the smoke, that is what these evil men have done to us, these evil emn call themselves Jews, but they are not, they are haters of all that is just, and so we shall so them justice. Do not think thta your Jewish neighbour is one of them, for he is not, this is the act of a few crazed men who together we shall destroy. I have signalled the CYSIS to seek out and aprehend and killer, were we shall give them a fate worse than death, we shall torture them and leave them to rot in hell. The state will not reconise the civil rights of a person who has killed innocent people without warning. To the families who ahve lost loved ones, we shall avenge those deaths, our prayers are with you, to those who livelyhoods have been destoryed, we shall extract your compensation from those responsible, you will nto be forgetten. To our men and women fighting in The Gaza Strip, crush the oppressors. To the many men who have not be called up, prepare for action, we will show no mercy in the complte destruction of the Acre Union. As of the end of this speech Navy and Air Force Units are free to bombard the Acre Union's military, political, and commercial structures. The Celtayoshi army will go in and take over their nation. We can rebuild that which was destroyed, and we can destroy that which was the root of evil. To our allies, you can help us, but if you choose not to we will not hold it against you, they have commited a most grevious crime, and will pay for it in their own blood."

Message to Sanctaphrax

Due to the recent bombing of our capital we will no longer accpet any peace treaty, and by the end of what we are gonig to do that treaty you so quickly dismissed will look like a note asking for some sugar written on pink flowery paper. There is no gonig back/

Message to The Jewish Defense League

Do not try such a foolish stunt again, every car, vechile, person going into Celtayoshi is being checked, you can't get through.

Message to Sanctaphrax

Due to the recent bombing of our capital we will no longer accpet any peace treaty, and by the end of what we are gonig to do that treaty you so quickly dismissed will look like a note asking for some sugar written on pink flowery paper. There is no gonig back/

Do not be foolish over this, where will it end? Think of how he feels, you have ganged up on him 20/1, his civilians are getting slaughtered and Cred can't leave the red button alone. I beg you again, you pull out of AU, AU will pull out of Gaza Strip and then I am sure that AU will sign a non-aggression pact. It is the only way to end this conflict.

Celtayoshi will not bow down to terrorists, nor can our Premier ignore the masses calling for revenge. He has brought this upon himself and shall be punished.

Whilst the attacks from the air continue in the Acre Union the following secret message was delivered to the current leader of the Acre Union.

This is a very serious situation, more than I think you realise, you nation is about to be destroyed. The only way you can get out of this is to condem the actions of the terrorist group, and offer full compenstion to the families of those killed. You must also pay for the damaged caused and cooperate fully with our police as the attempt to apprehend the terrorists. To prevent the complete destruction of your nation we offer you the chance to become a Celtayoshi Protectorate, if you choose to do so we ofer you the full protection of the Ottoman Alliance where you to be invaded, as well as the benfits of being tied to an economic and military power. This would also be accpetable to our people instead of the destruction of your nation. It could also be offered as an end of the conflict to the Ottoman Alliance. Your people would of course be able to democraticallly elect whoever they like as there leader, the only restrictions place as a protectorate are that your military will be incorperated into the Celtayoshi Army, although this may be more benificial, and all foreign ploicy will be set by the Celtayoshi Government. Should you fail to accpet we will have to attack your antion for the final time, the current attacks will continue until your replies.

West Cedarbrook Navy Extraregional Carrier Groups Zakopane, Wheeling, Evanston, and Farmington now redployed as designated 400 miles east of West Cedarbrook coast.

To: Sanctaphrax

The Kramden of West Cedarbrook plans to sever relations with Celtayoshi and with Credonia in view of anti-Jewish activities of these nations in the Acre Union-Gaza Strip conflict.

We are under threat of invasion by Credonia.

Credonia's attempted interference with internal judicial matters in West Cedarbrook violates the NATO charter.

You may convey to Credonia that it may request a guarantor for it's assets in West Cedarbrook. This may be a government or commercial entity in a nation with which West Cedarbrook maintains relations including but not limited to Sanctaphrax, IDF, Granzi, Jarridia, Morathania, and all nations in the Eretz Yisael region. The government of the Kramden will pursue this as an alternative to freezing of Credonian assets. The Kramden rejects the intrusion of Credonia into it's internal affairs.

Louis Steinberg,
President,
The Kramden of West Cedarbrook.

Statement from the Gaza Strip defense ministry:

Joint attacks by Credonian, Celtayoshi, and Gazan forces have begun outside Gaza City. AU forces are holding their ground, despite being outnumbered almost 10 to 1 and lacking air superiority. Allied forces shall continue their assault on AU until all AU forces have withdrwn from the Gaza Strp or have been destroyed.

*secret telegram to Gaza Strip, Greenmanbry, Acre Union, West Cedarbrook*
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Please, we feel that this war has gone on for long enough with no solution in sight. A peace treaty is crucial for any kind of end to this war. Celtayoshi and Credonia have only the goals of the destruction of AU so they accept no offering of peace. Acre Union and West Cedarbrook, would you be prepared to pull out of the Gaza Strip in exhange for Gaza Strip and Greenmanbry to leave AU? This would be a great start toward peace. If Gaza Strip and Greenmanbry pull out then the invasion will no longer have the backing of the OA and they will have to pull out too. Please accept this, it is the only way to end the deaths.
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Message to Sanctaphrax
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We are afraid it is too late to pull out. Although we are generally a diplomatic, peace-preaching nation, this has gone too far. Either you, as allies of Acre Union, put a stop to his extreme Zionist ambitions, or we shall be forced to continue this fight, for the sake of world peace.

Acre Union has created much suffering for our allies, and we will not be bullied into accepting any peace terms unless he gives full reparations to TGS and the OA.

The 10 D-71s scanned the horizon. Depleted Uranium shells were loaded. The gunners were trying to pick out viable targets, but were also afraid of hurting Gazan or dug-in Celtayoshian troops.

"It's no use, sir.. The only thing they lack is air support. How about we soften them up from the air, then advance and pound them from the front lines??"

"This is Delta-1. Air support required. I repeat, we need air support. Fighter/Attack aircraft, clear out AU formations and hold-outs."


The M270 MLRS Self-Propelled Loader/Launchers and M109A6 Paladin Self Propelled Howitzers took their position on a hill just north of Rafah. The artillery barrage that followed was directed at the entrenched AU troops.

Overhead, 10 Tornado GR-4s and 15 F-15 Strike Eagles scanned the ground for enemy encampments.

"Alpha-1, Foxtrot-1, this is Command. Clear out Lindsie's formations, northeast of Rafah. Coordinates transmitted via ABCU. Over."

"Roger that, Command. This is Alpha-1, attack ground. Foxtrot-1, maintain air superiority."

"Foxtrot-1, Roger."

Dawn, Celtayoshi Military Command Centre CeltaFuror, Pier 27

The CYNV - Sparrow slipped slowly away from its pier, along with 14 sister ships it was moving under heavy escort to the Acre Union, carying thousands of troops equipement. The sea was calm, with no more than a gentle breeze blowing over the military port in Belfast. Two dedicated submarine hunter group, as well as two carrier battlegroups and as much air support as was possible guarded these troops on the voyage. It would be long, but once there these units would form the final demise fo the Acre Union. The sheer size of the protectino group indicated just how much effort was being put into guarding this group. And the carriers would be used for offensive operations once there, bringing the total Celtayoshi carriers in the area to eight, a very large number indeed, althought that would be brough down when the other four from before returned to base for refits. The Acre Union's air force had taken a fearful pounding, to the point of non-existance, the retreat previously ordered had been cancelled recently, and a new military base was being established, currently occupied by Celtayosh forces. The Celtayoshi air force ponued every night, and during the day its attacks were becomnig more and more successful. Soon they would be in control, if the Acre Union continued its foolish assualt on TGS then they would be doomed, as forces committed there would be unable to help their homeland.

TGS, Celtayoshi Offensive Line

"Captain, we are being cut off on the right, light infantry agaisnt tanks, not good, recomend we bring 10th around the right to assist."

"Aye, move fast, and call up another two the reserves to push through on the left after that, make it look like the left is weak then hit em where it hurts."

"That wil leave our reserves low."

"True, but we should cope, and airstrike for tonight is to be targetted on their rienforcements."

Now that the command post was established and the Supremacy carrier group had arrived all signs looked good for the coming assault. While the post been setting up 63rd had finally reached the front and were ready to assist

At the command post General Tyrell Samson was wondering around he communication centre listening to the current status reports. One of the radio operators turned to Samson to report in.

"Sir The supremacy reports they have 14 MB-3 Lightning attack aircraft ready to go with th other 16 ready within the hour. The 63rd also reports that they are ready to strike."

"Excellent. Order all available units into battle and coordinate attacks with our allies. I think they might be pleased to see some reinforcements."

Along the battlefront, Challengers and warriors supported by infantry began moving toward wiry AU lines while overhead MB-3s watched the offensive and kept a look out for any targets of opportunity.

The City of Acre:

Civilians and Soldiers alike have been ordered to entrench themselves in the city, and on the streets where full Union control is. Various Paramilitaries are still in the outskirts, busying themselves with the enemy Occupation force. Government officials, which have taken refuge outside of the story have released a statement:

The Zionist Theocracy of Acre Union condemns the attacks of the terrorists. We would also like to take this oppurtunity to make it clear that there was no government affiliation with the terrorist group.

However, as long as our men are lost in The Gaza Strip, we will continue to fight back and send reinforcements.

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The 7th and 18th Armoured Divisions have begun mobilizing to the South East point of Rafah and it's outskirts. The estimate casualty report is 1,200 Union men lost. Over half of the Divisions sent to Rafah.

The Givati Paratroopers, consisting of nearly 4,000 men have been ordered to drop off North East of the 7th and 18th Armored Divisions. Orders are to plunge into the city within 32 hours.

The 7th and 18th have begun their advancement.

Coastal Waters, Acre Union

The CYNV - Sparrow sailed to just offshore, where it dropped anchor and awaited the aircraft coverage for deployment, thsi came about 5mins later. Its forward hull door opened and the small craft inside moved out towards teh beach, their objective was to sieze a reportedly unguarded stretch of land, which would be fortified for flying supplies in.

The mission passed of without a hitch, and within an hour the 784th Celtayoshi Military Engineers were working on the fort and landing strip. This would becoem the second Celtayoshi Military base in thte Acre Union

bringing to the top

"Sir, large formations of tanks and soldiers are coming in from behind!"

"What? Identification?"

"We don't know, but I hope it's an ally."

"Foxtrot-1, this is Delta-1, large formations materializing behind us, can we get one of your boys to identify them?"

"Delta-1, they're friendlies. I repeat, they are friendlies."

"Phew. Thank you Foxtrot-1. Boys, we have reinforcements behind us. Continue pounding those bastards! Comms, send a message to the guys behind us. Tell them that we need help here. Get them up to speed on the situation and troop massings in south-eastern Rafah."

"Yes sir"

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"Alpha-1, Foxtrot-1, this is Command. South-Eastern tip of Rafah. Enemy concentrations massing. You are to execute a surgical strike ASAP."

"Command, Alpha-1, Roger. Commencing strike."

The 25 aircraft engaged their afterburners and sped to the coordinates relayed by Command. Soon, they were over Rafah, the outskirts of which were burning. The tornados let loose their Air to Surface armaments and quickly retreated to TGS.

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Message to Sanctaphrax:

Why should we stop fighting? We're winning!! It was Acre Union who made the mistake of attacking us, and it must pay the price of it's actions. We will continue fighting as long as is necessary to push Acre Union forces out of Gaza. The Zionist enemy never withdraws voluntarily. He must be pushed out or killed.
And as for accusing the Gaza Strip of having forces in AU, that's just more Zionist propaganda!
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Meanwhile, allied forces have pushed back AU forces outside Gaza City and are pursuing the enemy. Also, the 108th Shahid Brigade has begun the battle to recapture Rafah, with support from Credonian ground and air forces.

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Message to Sanctaphrax:

Why should we stop fighting? We're winning!! It was Acre Union who made the mistake of attacking us, and it must pay the price of it's actions. We will continue fighting as long as is necessary to push Acre Union forces out of Gaza. The Zionist enemy never withdraws voluntarily. He must be pushed out or killed.
And as for accusing the Gaza Strip of having forces in AU, that's just more Zionist propaganda!
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Acre Union will pull out. As long as Celtayoshi and co move out of AU.

There's something the Union would like to make clear, with Credonia inches away from nuking our people, there will be nothing for the Armed Forces to pull out to.

The Armed Forces are there to stay.

Keep in mind Acre Union has lost nearly 45% of it's population, fleeing to undisclosed nations.

Celtayoshi will not be pulling out of the Acre Union, we invaded the Acre Union becasue they were going to launch a strike at one of our allies. If they just sign the treaty we can get this over with instead of having a destroyed nation.

Celtayoshi will not be pulling out of the Acre Union, we invaded the Acre Union becasue they were going to launch a strike at one of our allies. If they just sign the treaty we can get this over with instead of having a destroyed nation.
Accept that your treaty was in no way reasonable. Get him to sign a non-aggresion pact instead. No one gets attacked, both sides step away from this and thats it. AU pays TGS a certain amount, and Celtayoshi and Credonia pay AU a certain amount for civilians killed.

Why should we pay for killing his citizens when they have been armed by the Acre Union government to attack us, where we meant to let them kill us.

As for the treaty, well given the circumstances, which are we can destroy his nation, I feel it is acceptable. Over time the control will be lessened and greater freedoms given to the Acre Union. The treaty is ni no way designed to preven thte citizens of the Acre Union from choosing there own government and ruling themselves, it is however important for ensureing that our allies are not threatened by his imperialistic moves, which have been demostrated in this unprovoked attack of the Gaza Strip.

Credonia and her allies are prepared to spare the nation of Acre Union and all of it's allies and supporters if and only if each and every party involved agrees to sign a legally binding Cease-Fire agreement, at which time a peace summit will be held to determine the terms of a peace treaty between all parties involved. This is only fair to each and every nation involved in this. The summit meeting will only be held in a location of Credonia's choosing and all leaders and/or representatives from the nations of this conflict will recieve equal treatment in accordance with international law. Failure to agree to this peace initiative will only mean that either side is not dedicated to bringing about an end to this conflict.

Why should we pay for killing his citizens when they have been armed by the Acre Union government to attack us, where we meant to let them kill us.

As for the treaty, well given the circumstances, which are we can destroy his nation, I feel it is acceptable. Over time the control will be lessened and greater freedoms given to the Acre Union. The treaty is ni no way designed to preven thte citizens of the Acre Union from choosing there own government and ruling themselves, it is however important for ensureing that our allies are not threatened by his imperialistic moves, which have been demostrated in this unprovoked attack of the Gaza Strip.
His citizens and his government gave up and laid down their arms and yet you persisted to attack. Civilians are civilians, no matter whether they be Credonia, Gaza Strip or Acre Union civilians.
We thank Credonia for agreeing to hold peace talks, I ask that they be held in Sanctaphrax as we are neutral in this conflict. We have followed it the whole way and are neutral.

After discussions with Credonia we will agree to hold peace talks in whatever nation is chosen. We are further prepared to offer a ceasefire, again after consultation with our allies. However, should this ceasefire be broken we will not hesitate to retaliate.

After discussions with Credonia we will agree to hold peace talks in whatever nation is chosen. We are further prepared to offer a ceasefire, again after consultation with our allies. However, should this ceasefire be broken we will not hesitate to retaliate.
thank you Celtayoshi, Cred, do you agree to hold them in Sanctaphrax?
If you hold them in a Muslim country then AU may feel threatened. We are Jewish majority but are tolerant towards all beliefs. Our word is our honour and you have our word that the delegates will recieve that best possible treatment.

thank you Celtayoshi, Cred, do you agree to hold them in Sanctaphrax?
If you hold them in a Muslim country then AU may feel threatened. We are Jewish majority but are tolerant towards all beliefs. Our word is our honour and you have our word that the delegates will recieve that best possible treatment.

Celtayoshi is willing to attend a conference held in Sanctaphrax, however will await Credonia's descision.

Anyone have any objections with holding them in Credonia City? Credonia City remains one of the safest cities on the face of the planet. For many of you who arent aware, Credonia City and the Presidential Palace is the site of where MANY peace treaties and alliances have been signed and ratified by a myriad of nations from around the world on various issues.

Greenmanbry would not object as to the location of the peace talks, as long as they are not held in The Acre Union. We would not send an ant to the Acre Union, let alone an entire delegation.

Anyone have any objections with holding them in Credonia City? Credonia City remains one of the safest cities on the face of the planet. For many of you who arent aware, Credonia City and the Presidential Palace is the site of where MANY peace treaties and alliances have been signed and ratified by a myriad of nations from around the world on various issues.
Holding them in a conflicting nation doesn't seem all that wise.

Greenmanbry would not object as to the location of the peace talks, as long as they are not held in The Acre Union. We would not send an ant to the Acre Union, let alone an entire delegation.
They won't but neither do I think that they should be in an OA country for the same reasons. I will of course be requesting to send a delegate to these peace talks.

Consider it as a gesture of good will that we are allowing them to come to our nation. Unlike some nations (not directed to anyone in particular), Credonia does not backstab other nations and their leaders during negotiations of any kind while leaders are in our country. Furthermore, I cannot assure the security of their leaders or my own if they are elsewhere. I CAN, however, assure the security of all leaders and their delegations within Credonia City.

Celtayoshi will attend, its delegation has no problem with the location of the talks. Our Ambassador to Credonia will be the primary delegate, with an advisory team sent over to give him a full briefing.

The Union is choosing a delegate at this very moment.

We will select a delegate and send him to Credonia. HOWEVER, Gaza Strip must attend. He is crucial to proceedings. If he doesn't come then there will be no point in the talks. Double-cross anyone Credonia and face our wrath.

We have perfected nuclear weapons! The Gaza Strip is now a nuclear power!!
Since we now have a credible deterrent against any future AU attack, we are open to peace talks, wherever they are held. We will send our Minister of Defense.
In the meantime, allied forces have entered an indefinite voluntary cease-fire. We will not attempt to recapture Rafah and Khan Yunis by force. We will attempt a diplomatic solution.

*secret telegram to Gaza Strip, Greenmanbry, Acre Union, West Cedarbrook*
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Please, we feel that this war has gone on for long enough with no solution in sight. A peace treaty is crucial for any kind of end to this war. Celtayoshi and Credonia have only the goals of the destruction of AU so they accept no offering of peace. Acre Union and West Cedarbrook, would you be prepared to pull out of the Gaza Strip in exhange for Gaza Strip and Greenmanbry to leave AU? This would be a great start toward peace. If Gaza Strip and Greenmanbry pull out then the invasion will no longer have the backing of the OA and they will have to pull out too. Please accept this, it is the only way to end the deaths.
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</Dipolomatic code SA-32>
West Cedarbrook is not at war with Celtayoshi or Credonia or The Gaza Strip, and has no forces in The Gaza Strip.

President Steinberg is awaiting the ruling of the Civil Supreme Court regarding freezing of assets of Celtayoshi and Credonia. We are awaiting your response regarding a guarantor of those assets. This may be a means of preventing hostilities.

The Steinberg Administration views the actions of Celtayoshi and Credonia as hostile to West Cedarbrook and will conduct long term diplomatic and military policy accordingly.

West Cedarbrook has no diplomatic relations with Greenmanbury.
</end code>

</Dipolomatic code SA-32>
West Cedarbrook is not at war with Celtayoshi or Credonia or The Gaza Strip, and has no forces in The Gaza Strip.

President Steinberg is awaiting the ruling of the Civil Supreme Court regarding freezing of assets of Celtayoshi and Credonia. We are awaiting your response regarding a guarantor of those assets. This may be a means of preventing hostilities.

The Steinberg Administration views the actions of Celtayoshi and Credonia as hostile to West Cedarbrook and will conduct long term diplomatic and military policy accordingly.

West Cedarbrook has no diplomatic relations with Greenmanbury.
</end code>


Freeze my assets, hahahahahahahahaha, foolish child, why would you do that?

We have perfected nuclear weapons! The Gaza Strip is now a nuclear power!!
Since we now have a credible deterrent against any future AU attack, we are open to peace talks, wherever they are held. We will send our Minister of Defense.
In the meantime, allied forces have entered an indefinite voluntary cease-fire. We will not attempt to recapture Rafah and Khan Yunis by force. We will attempt a diplomatic solution.
WE DO NOT ACCEPT THESE NUCLEAR WEAPONS OF GAZA STRIPS. Either he disbands them or there will be no peace. As a Jewish majority nation I feel threatened by this Jew-Hating arab. He must disband all nuclear weapons before AU does.

WE DO NOT ACCEPT THESE NUCLEAR WEAPONS OF GAZA STRIPS. Either he disbands them or there will be no peace. As a Jewish majority nation I feel threatened by this Jew-Hating arab. He must disband all nuclear weapons before AU does.

"May we remind Sanctaphrax that The Gaza Strip has been invaded by arab hating Jews, and has as much right to nuclear weapons as Celtayoshi does, maybe even more, since we have not been invaded. Now then, are you going to ask Celtayoshi to disband its nuclear arms?"

"To TGS, we require assurances that these weapons will be used repsosibly, it would be a great tragety where they to go off. We hope that they are under the proper security measures."

WE DO NOT ACCEPT THESE NUCLEAR WEAPONS OF GAZA STRIPS. Either he disbands them or there will be no peace. As a Jewish majority nation I feel threatened by this Jew-Hating arab. He must disband all nuclear weapons before AU does.

We need these weapons!! If Credonia and Celtayoshi hadn't come to our aid, The Gaza Strip would be in Zionist hands! AU is simply too powerful for The Gaza Strip to fight alone. We need a credible deterrent in case it happens again.
And how do think the Gazan people feel knowing that Arab-hating Jews are on their border with the same weapons?
We believe in the principle of MAD (Mutually-Assured Destruction). If one nation launches a nuclear strike at another, the victim-nation responds with it's own nuclear stike, and both nations are finished.
We don't hate Jews. The Gaza Strip is open to any religion, providing they obey the laws of the land and don't force their beliefs on anyone else. The Gaza Strip is extremely secular, much like Turkey. The only peoples we have problems with are Muslim fundamentalists, who seek to undermine control of our goverment and impose strict Sharia law on everyone. The other threat is Zionism, as shown by Acre Union's blatent disregard for international law by invading us unprovoked.
We will never give up these weapons. The Zionist threat is too great!

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Message to Celtayoshi:
Our new nuclear arsenal will be kept under the strictest security available. They are for defense puposes only. We lack the number of men available to handle an attack from a much larger enemy, so we need a credible deterrent.

Look, you people are claiming you need all these weapons to defend yourselves against AU. If AU gets a reasonable peace treaty (where Cred and co pull out of AU and he pulls out of TGS and they sign a non-aggresion pact) then all these weapons will not be neccesary.

Look, you people are claiming you need all these weapons to defend yourselves against AU. If AU gets a reasonable peace treaty (where Cred and co pull out of AU and he pulls out of TGS and they sign a non-aggresion pact) then all these weapons will not be neccesary.

That is unreasonalbe, we have won this war, and by right of conquest we could claim the whole of the Acre Union into the territories of the respective nations. Now then, all we are asking for is a reduced military for AU(which will vary depending on another natinos military size), some money, and a base. We will not leave this war empty handed.

Guys guys, lets let cooler heads prevail. Why dont you all come to Credonia for a nice weekend stay to discuss negotiations like the civil people that we are. Credonia STRONGLY urges national leaders to come in place of delegations.

Presidential Palace, Credonia City, Credonia 7:40 pm CST
President Sutton sat in the Presidential Office of the Presidential Palace looking over his agenda for the week. He had alotted time on the weekend to host a negotiations summit at the Palace during the upcoming weekend. He stood up and looked out of the window overlooking the Palace terrace. The sky was painted a pinkish-orange hue as the sun set to the east. He thought that Credonia would be a more fitting place to have the negotiations and allow time for the leaders to sit back and actaully enjoy themselves in the national capital, sharing some of the luxuaries that he himself enjoyed during his freetime, a courtesy that he was sure no other leader in the party was willing to extend to the delegations and leaders coming to the peace talks. He slowly turned around, sat back down in his comfy leather chair and began writing a note to the nations involved in the conflict.


To: All nations involved in the Acre Union/TGS Conflict
From: Alexander Nicolas Sutton, President of the United States of Credonia
SUBJECT: Negotiations and Peace Talks

You are formally invited to come to Credonia city to negotiate and end to all hostilities currently going on within the world between our nations at this time. We look forward to seeing an end to this conflict and ensuring that all sides are satisfied with the results that will take place during these negotiations. During the time that negotiations and peace talks are not going on, all delegations and foreign leaders are more than welcome to enjoy in some of the same comforts that I myself am priveledged to as President of this great nation. This peace conference should also serve as a time to calm our nerves, let cooler heads prevail and loosen up becase we all know how tense things can be during times like these, and a good atmosphere and loose leaders will always make things move along more smoothly, efficiently, and with less quarrals between parties which can, and most likely do, prevent peace from being attained. During the duration of the negotiations and peace talks, I ask that all nations involved pledges to adhere to a legally binding Cease-fire agreement in which no forces will be advanced or used for offensive or even "defensive" purposes. Credonia hereby pledges to adhere to this cease-fire agreement, offered by ourselves, and we hope that you will not only adhere to it as well, but come to Credonia City in hopes of bring about peace between our peoples.

Alexander Nicolas Sutton
President of the United States of Credonia
Official Letter of the President of the USC

Acre Union hereby pledges to this cease fire agreement.

Jonas Yiretz
Temp. Government Rep.

The Gaza Strip agrees to the conditions of the cease-fire.

We will send defense minister Ezzat Abdullah to Credonia City, Credonia immediately.

Cowlquape Pentephraxis has left in his Gulfstream G-550 now. He'll be landing in ETA 8 hours. He is the PM of Sanctaphrax.
Celtayoshi, military bases are generally put up in ALLIED countries. When the only thing binding is a cease-fire then you could turn traitor and launch an invasion at any point from your base. It would be made easier by your demand that AU reduce his military.

I shall be there.

Also, the Dominion believes The Gaza Strip has full rights to acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrant to a future AU invasion. Not that there will be a future AU invasion, right?.. Or at least, if there is an AU invasion, there won't be a ceasefire. You can count on that.

GMB forces in TGS have been commanded to obey this cease-fire, but they are still at high alert, and will respond to any unprovoked AU aggression with force.

Neils Ferdinand
Minister of Defense

Also, the Dominion believes The Gaza Strip has full rights to acquire nuclear weapons as a deterrant to a future AU invasion.[/b]
:headbang:
Not again. Get him to sign a non-aggression pact and there will be no aggression. Wonderful idea no? Next you'll be claiming that you need to execute all his people to avoid further attack. Oh wait, you already tried that! ok, he can have nukes, but if he uses them on ANYONE, I will nuke his nation underneath the Earth. Is that clear?

Greenmanbry will attempt to negotiate with The Gaza Strip over the whole nuclear issue. We are supporters of nuclear non-proliferation/containment, but we think that, under these circumstances, TGS has the right to practice the MAD threats, especially when the adversary is a sick and deranged theocracy like AU.

If TGS does attempt to nuke AU just for the hell of it (or any other nation for that matter), we shall participate in "nuking his nation underneath the Earth"..

Please be advised that, if AU does play dirty, ignore the agreements, and proceed to invade/nuke TGS, we will not object to TGS nuking him back. And, if you decide to nuke TGS and our troops, then you shall join TGS "underneath the Earth" in a heartbeat.

Neils Ferdinand
Minister of Defense

OOC:i just got to this war and now you want PEACE! :mad: ah well it will give me time to move more troops in before AU upsets the alliance again

IC: Mental lands will also send a diplomat to attend this conference but we wont do much as we dident have much to do with this war.

especially when the adversary is a sick and deranged theocracy like AU.

Please be advised that, if AU does play dirty, ignore the agreements, and proceed to invade/nuke TGS, we will not object to TGS nuking him back. And, if you decide to nuke TGS and our troops, then you shall join TGS "underneath the Earth" in a heartbeat.
Look how many times you mentioned "nuked" or "nukes" in that sentence. Should I start referring to you as George W. Bush?
Now let me ask you something, is it a tradition to insult someone you wish to make peace with?
I don't nuke people. I have allies that nuke people. I find your lack of trust for AU somewhat disturbing as I do your blatant lack of respect for him. I am pulling out of these peace talks because nothing will come of them with attitudes like yours.

OOC:Is cuba allied to America, no, do tey have a base there, yes, its the same principle.

IC:Celtayoshi does not appoint its ambassadors for their incompetence, however, since Credonia has requested it Premier Németh shall attend this conference instead of the ambassador. Please be advised that this will mean even less leeway from us as the Premier knows exactly what he wants.

Please be advised that this will mean even less leeway from us as the Premier knows exactly what he wants.
:)
Are you having a laugh? What exactly does "less leeway" mean? You'll take his country for a century and then consider keeping it permanently?

Look, I have had enough, the Acre Union has invaded one nation, threated to invade another two since my appointment as Minister of Defense of the Ottoman Alliance, and in 10 hours it is most likely i will be confirmed as President of the Ottoman Alliance, the Acre Union will be made to pay for his racist imperialism. Should we not get a satisfactory outcome at this conference he will be finally overthrown and turned into a territory of Celtayoshi, we are not going to waste the lives of our soldiers to have some nation who knows nothing of the reasons for invading the AU tell us what to do.

Celtayoshi, you are out of line. From now on, in the name of peace, all negotiations will go through Credonia. All issues between nations will be handled through me. Celtayoshi, you need to chill out. You are jeapordizing negotiations. If you want to spark a nuclear war, go right ahead, but dont do so at the expense of Credonia's stated policies towards AU, because believe it or not, if one is sparked, then Credonia is by word (stated policy) and by constitution, obligated to conduct a counter strike upon AU, possibly using nuclear weapons, something that we dont want to be PUSHED to do.

Furthermore, your stated threats are not in the least bit helping the issue. If anything, they are making the situtation deteriorate. You are pushing us all farther from the negotiations table than you are bringing us TO it.

Fine, just don't expect me to stand aside.

Seeing the hard line that Credonia has taken we have decided to come anyway. We are convinced that Credonia will be fair and will be landing in Credonia city in 4 hours ETA.

The Kramden of West Cedarbrook assigns it's current diplomatic attache in Credonia to attend the conference.

To: Jonas Yiretz
Temp. Government Rep., Acre Union

Please TG West Cedarbrook, or provide coded message regarding response to Celtayoshi demands. Will there be resistance to any Vichy type regieme imposed on Acre Union? Advise about any naval, air or land forces that would need harbor in West Cedarbrook in resistance to any imposed regieme.

Department of External Affairs
The Kramden of West Cedarbrook

Celtayoshi- No one is expecting you to stand aside. There is a time and a place to start throwing out threats. When we are at the brink of coming together in a CIVIL manner to discuss bringing an end to all hostilities and going back to a state of normalcy, there is no place for threats, and any threats made by either side clearly do not reflect the idea that you and your "side" wants peace. It only adds fuel to the fire that has been raging on and growing for quite some time.

Sanctaphrax- The Government of Credonia hopes to continue to prove to your nation and the international community that we are indeed a people of peace, despite what you and others may hear and think. While Credonia does rely on nuclear deterrent in "special" circumstances, we do not rule out peace because no one wants to die because of a nuclear catastrophy that could have been prevented had only cooler heads prevailed and peace talks been held. Furthermore, we are pleased that you are willing to come to Credonia as planned. We look forward to seeing your delegation/leadership arrive at the Sutton Air Force Base located just outside of Credonia City, Credonia. From there, you will board a convoy which will take you to the Grand Credonia hotel, so that you may prepare for the negotiations that would be held later that evening at the Presidential Palace. We await your nation's representative's arrival.

West Cedarbrook- We are glad that you are willing to attend the negotiations. Let me make one thing clear though. The freezing and or seizing of any Credonian assets, or the assets of any member of the Ottoman Alliance will be regarded as a deliberate act of war which will be in violation of the established cease-fire agreement requiring a full retalitory response by the nation of Credonia and her allies. We await your delegation's arrival.

The attache has arrived at the conference.

His advice to Credonia -

We strongly advise that you consider the sale of assets in West Cedarbrook. We will not brook foreign interference in our sovereign judicial process. Our forces remain on alert and our ports and financial institutions under military control until the stand down of your invasion threat.

Defense Minister Ezzat Abdullah has arrived at the conference.

We will only use nuclear weapons as a last resort. We hope that AU or any other nation will try to resolve future conflicts without the use of force.

Cowquape Pentephraxis stepped off the plane in Credonia and was immediately taken to a limo. He got in and, 1 hour later he was at a 5-star hotel in the district.

Credonian Presidential Palace
An aid walks up to the President.

"Sir, three of the delegates have arrived."

"Good. That means we are still waiting on two or three more. Lets hope they get here on time"

The aid walks away.

"Air Celtayoshi Flight 01 touched down today in Credonia at arund 17.00 local time. The Premier is attending peace talks on the Acre Union and willb e there for a number of days. The Deputy Premier has been palced in charge of domestic affairs until the return of the Premier. He has been left clear instrcutions. The Premier was taken by official car to the Celtayoshi Embassy in Credonia."

OOC: Air Celtayoshi Flight 01 is a converted SAC PAS that looks like this

SAC PAS (http://www.bennettmg.co.uk/graphics/A380-in-flight.jpg)

OOC: When are the talks going to begin (IRL)?

OOC: When are the talks going to begin (IRL)?
Not saturday or Sunday because you're not here:)

Not saturday or Sunday because you're not here:)

:) I hope so :)

ooc: whenever everyone arrives

The Gulfstream-550 softly touched down in Credonia City. Before the jet even exited the runway, the Minister of Defense stood up, put on his Navy blue coat, and headed for the exit. Minutes later, the door opened, and the stairs were unfolded.

Neil walked out of the Gulfstream and breathed in. Credonia City.. he thought. He immediately walked over to the GMB embassy escort and headed for the conference premises.

Jonas Yiretz arrived by means of a private flight. At almost the exact moment he touched the ground, he was escorted to a limo followed by a few other cars.

Ezzat arrived at Credonia International Airport on time. After picking up his bags, he got into his limo. 1 hour later, he arrived at the presidential palace.

Due to the death of his mother (84), Premier Németh has had to return to Celtayoshi for the funeral, all contacts with Celtayoshi will be through the embassy. The Premier fully intends to return after funeral, however must fly back to be with his family. His mother died of heart failure in Belfast City Hospital during her sleep, it had been an ongoing illness.


OOC: There, the IC reason i won't be posting ths weekend.

The president of TGS sends his condolences on behalf of the Gazan people.

The president of TGS sends his condolences on behalf of the Gazan people.

The Premier thanks the Gazan people for thinking of his family in this time of need.

TGS requests that the talks start immediately. Failure to comply will result in Gazan forces recapturing Rafah and Khan Yunis unilaterally.

I agree. TGS is still under occupation, and our forces are still stationed in TGS. Talks must start immediately.

We agree, OA forces are still in full force in AU, and the longer they stay, the more uncomfortable I feel with this whole situation.

The Premier of Celtayoshi has returned to Credonia. We wish for the talks to begin immediately.

We also assure Sanctaphrax that Ottoman Alliance forces have no orders to launch offensive operations.

TGS requests that the talks start immediately. Failure to comply will result in Gazan forces recapturing Rafah and Khan Yunis unilaterally.

I dare you to try it. Break the sieze fire, and all your women and children will be buried in pits. I have not made any threats and have been very compassionate about the discussions for peace.

Don't push it.

You're in no position to threaten me. You have armies all around you, including in your homeland, and you're on the defensive now. If I were you, I'd take a pro-shutting-the-hell-up approach to negotiations.

I dare you to try it. Break the sieze fire, and all your women and children will be buried in pits. I have not made any threats and have been very compassionate about the discussions for peace.

Don't push it.

The Celtayoshi Premier has taken note of your threats against women and children. We hope you will stay compassionate about peace talks, for your benfit, creating threats does not help the situation.

I dare you to try it. Break the sieze fire, and all your women and children will be buried in pits. I have not made any threats and have been very compassionate about the discussions for peace.

Don't push it.

<A private meeting between the President and the MoD>

The Minister of Defense stared at the President. The latter looked at the threat incoming from Acre Union and smirked, "Cuh.. burying women and children in pits. If they try anything close to that, push forward."

The Minister of Defense chuckled, "Hell, they can't spell 'cease'.. I don't think we should worry about Acre Union.. With the number of troops we have in TGS, we'll bury them if they try anything as stupid as that."

These peace talks are an absolute shambles. Celtayoshi has threatened AU to stop threatening TGS after TGS threatened AU which is ironic because Celtayoshi was the first to threaten AU. Credonia hasn't turned up yet even though its in his nation. We officially resign from these talks to the OA's obvious unwillingness to talk. The only negotiations we will conduct right now are with Credonia, as they are the only ones to have shown signs of peaceful intentions.

OOC: I obviously don't know about it IC but Greenmanbry also threatened him.

OOC: Exactly. It's OOC.. OOC has no bearing on IC.. Ah, the beauty of NS.. ;).. btw, I didn't threatened him. I certainly planned to stike back if he decides to invade again.

IC:

We are saddened to see the Sanctaphrax delegation abandon these talks. But then again, AU did not seem interested in resolving the matter peacefully from the start. So meh.. we still seek peace and hope it can be accomplished someday.

Right, as President of the Ottoman Alliacne we formally request Sanctaphrax return to the talks, as they will begin with or with out him, and they will also begin with or without Credonia. These new talks will be held in Credonia (since he will have an IC presence allowing him to post if he wants) and shall begin with 24 hours.

Right, as President of the Ottoman Alliacne we formally request Sanctaphrax return to the talks, as they will begin with or with out him, and they will also begin with or without Credonia. These new talks will be held in Credonia (since he will have an IC presence allowing him to post if he wants) and shall begin with 24 hours.
I have sent telegrams to both Acre Union and West Cedarbrook requesting them to do as I have and refuse to deal with the Oa, only with Credonia. You have all insulted or threatened us and that, is not a good start for peace talks. We will talk to Credonia only.

Fine.. The Dominion urges the President of the Ottoman Alliance not to downgrade his status and try to appease these folk. If they want to communicate only with Credonia, then so be it. But the entire OA has troops in TGS and AU, not only Credonia.. And considering Celtayoshi is the President, Credonia has to come through Celtayoshi during negotiations, since this is an OA-related matter, not a solely Credonian affair.

Good day.

It appears Sanctaphrax does not understand the situation. Yes he may deal with Credonia only, however, without approval of the President it would be very hard, almost impossible to get the OA to take united action. We therfore feel it is in the best interests of all nations involved to participate in talks which included Celtayoshi and the Ottoman Alliance.

May it also please Sanctaphrax to note that Celtayoshi has not commited any threatening moves which were not in repsonse to AU agression throughout the entire war.

West Cedarbrook is in agreement with Sanctaphrax. We also leave these talks until the return of Credonia.

As is the Union.

We shall take your withdrawal from the talks as an end to your ceasefire, you have 24 hours (RL) to announce your willingness to rejoin peace talks before we commence offensive operations. We would also like Sanctaphrax to take note of the fact that Credonia is busy and so cannot always reply, therefore somethings have to be done without him, and I have given you plenty of time to rejoin talks without an ending of the ceasefire.

OOC: Credonia's being busy is an OOC matter, not IC.

IC: We have had it with your repeated attempts to blackmail and insult us to see how far you can go. We will negotiate with Credonia only, as he is the only one who wants to negotiate.

OOC: Are you saying the ceasefire is void? :D *waves hand over red button* ooooh.. what does this button dooo?? Excuse me, people.. I haven't been involved in a good RP for a long time.

We want peace as well, believe it or not this war cost us money, although not much by our standards it could be better spent elsewhere.

OOC: The ceasefire is not void. Sorry for just now getting back to the thread. Ive had a very busy week. They kicked up our drill team practice to 3 days a week now, and ive got 2 major Model UN conferences to prepare for.

IC:
President Sutton walks into the conference room of the Presidential Palace awaiting the arrival of the foreign leaders and delegates. He is ready to bring an end to the hostilities and conclude this conflict.

The Celtayoshi Premier arrives at the Presidential palace a short time later. With him he has the ambassador to Credonia and numerous aides. Upon entering they move towards there seats, however, the Premier moves to greet President Sutton. The two men talk about the situation in the AU and the negotations, Premier Németh is very concerned about Sanctaphrax's attempts to side track Celtayoshi and the Ottoman Alliance.

The Minister of Defense stepped into the large hall. He saw President Sutton chatting with what seemed to be the Celtayoshian delegation. He headed for his seat. Once the two leaders finished their talk, he would head over to greet President Sutton and congratulate him on winning the elections.

The President also ordered him to greet Celtaysoshi's Premier, since the latter has become the President of the Ottoman Alliance.

Diplomatic Attache Woodrow W. Hayes IV remains at the West Cedarbrook Embassy in Credonia City, awaiting instructions from the Department of External Affairs.

OOC:Yeah, that's right! I've monitored all the stupid talk about one billion, trillion, gazillion Ottoman nukes. They are as nothing against the flying chairs of a wrathfull OSU coach!

OOC:Yeah, that's right! I've monitored all the stupid talk about one billion, trillion, gazillion Ottoman nukes. They are as nothing against the flying chairs of a wrathfull OSU coach!

Only Credonia has talked about nukes, not me or any other alliance member, except to say that we don't fully support them.

Only Credonia has talked about nukes, not me or any other alliance member, except to say that we don't fully support them.
Maayan Goldstein arrived at the conference hall in a long skirt and a blouse. She sat down and waited patiently for the president of Credonia to turn his attentions to her. She pointedly ignored any attempts made to talk to her by other OA members.

Jonas Yiretz, entered the hall, dressed in traditional Union fatigues, with a red beret that had a Star of David badge in the front. He tried to look happy for the event, immediately searching for Maayan Goldstein.

The Celtayoshi Premier took his seat, satisfied that Celtayoshi would get what it wanted, even if Credonia could not help them then Celtayoshi had a strong team with them.

Jonas Yiretz, entered the hall, dressed in traditional Union fatigues, with a red beret that had a Star of David badge in the front. He tried to look happy for the event, immediately searching for Maayan Goldstein.
"Ah, Jonas I believe? Nice to meet you, i'm Maayan Goldstein, delegate for Sanctaphrax. I have no idea why we even showed up, its obvious that these people don't want peace. Oh well, I assume we'll find out what they DO want soon enough."

Attache Hayes enters the hall, in business suit and tie, with West Cedarbrook Flag lapel pin, blackberry at his side, and lone Scarlet and Gray battle ribbon. He scans the room and fixes his eyes on Yretz and Goldstein.

Hayes lumbers over to the two, who are discussing strategy.

"Ms. Goldstein, Mr. Yirtetz" he announces, extending his hand, "President Steinberg and Secretary Klein send their greetings. I'm here to see what develops. Overall, I'm doubtfull about these proceedings."

*bump*

I believe we should start this sumit now? Also, what format will it take?

Ferdinand sighed. He walked into the room, folder in hand. He was wearing a suit and a tie, unusual considering he was the nation's Minister of Defense. His usual outfit consisted of a military uniform and black boots. But today it was different. He was afraid of looking too pompous if he came in a military outfit. Besides, he was to greet several heads of state and convey the President's blessings, and such formal activities required a tie and a suit.

He looked around the hall. He immediately noticed the two gentlemen and lady conversing in a corner. What caught his attention was the military uniform one of the men was wearing. He immediately noticed the Star of David, and grimaced. Although Jew to this day, Neil detested Acre Union and many of their allies. He had personally planned GMB Army movements during the invasion of that wretched nation. He hated them for reinforcing every negative stereotype the Muslims and Christians back home believed in. And for attacking his allies, of course.

He did not even bother to greet them. He walked past them and stared into their souls with his grey eyes. He then continued towards the Premier of Celtayoshi, the only delegate he recognized amongst the group.

Maayan matched his stare levelly. "Can I help you with something, or do you find me that attractive that you can't stop staring at me?" By the time she'd said it he'd gone, but she knew that he'd heard. She'd seen the look in his eyes, it was hatred.
"Yet another delegate coming to negotiate peace when what he really wants is war." She saw the head of Credonia and approached him.
"Hi, can we start negotiations? I'm Maayan Goldstein of Sanctaphrax. May I ask what all these people are doing here? I thought we'd made it quite clear that we're negotiating with you only. Unless this is a trick?"

OOC: The following post would be known to Greenmanbry and myself only.

IC: "Good afternoon Minister, I trust your journey was comfortable. I need your advice, as you know Sanctaphrax has not taken any part in this conflict and now has the cheek to sideline us, they will undermine our position. Now, I don't mind an nice debate, but we have poured millions into this conflict, their expenses in this war amount to travelling here. Why should they have a say. Do you agree with me in this? I am prepared to let them stay, but we must not move from our position. The Alliance must be allowed say over the AU military, due to his imperialistic measures. What is your opinion"

The defense minister has entered the presidential palace.

The defense minister has entered the presidential palace.
OOC: as detailed a post as ever from TGS!

IC:
Maayan turned back to the delegates having not been heard by the Premier of Credonia. "What do you guys think about Celtayoshi? I think that they're just going to try and install ridiculous punishments and claim its due to your "unfairly attacking TGS". They shouldn't get money for invading your nation. What we need to aim for is a non-aggresion pact from both sides, where after both sides leave the others territory and stay out. You don't attack TGS any more and the OA leave AU for good. What do you think?"

Jonas nodded in agreement. "Yes, a non agression pact similar to the cease fire agreement we have right now would be most positive for both us and the Ottoman Alliance. However, their excuse for digging up whatever resources, cash, and military sites the Union has is the Union's "imperialistic" actions against The Gaza Strip, as well as 2 other nations that are part of the OA. Personally, I believe the OA is getting much too large, and if it's respect they want, they're not going to bring this nation down for it."

*bump*

I believe we should start this sumit now? Also, what format will it take?
OOC: since we announced that we wouldn't talk to you, Cred will have to be the middle man. Everything we say he'll pass on to you and vica versa.

"Good afternoon Minister, I trust your journey was comfortable. I need your advice, as you know Sanctaphrax has not taken any part in this conflict and now has the cheek to sideline us, they will undermine our position. Now, I don't mind an nice debate, but we have poured millions into this conflict, their expenses in this war amount to travelling here. Why should they have a say. Do you agree with me in this? I am prepared to let them stay, but we must not move from our position. The Alliance must be allowed say over the AU military, due to his imperialistic measures. What is your opinion"

OOC: The following post would be known to Celtayoshi and myself only.

IC:

"A very good afternoon to you too, your excellency. President Byrnashty has asked.. actually.. ordered me to convey his greetings and best wishes to you personally, as well as his condolences, and the nation's, for the tragic loss in your family..

The Dominion has also invested a lot in the war on Acre Union. We are not after AU for any specific interests. We do not seek anything from this conflict except the suppression of Acre Union's imperialist ambitions and Zionist government. If you don't mind me saying, Zionism is a threat to this world. I am Jewish myself, yet I view AU with more hatred and disgust than any non-Jew back home..

They want to sideline us, fine.. Let them try. The USC will have to come through us if they want to get anything done. If they ignore us during the conference, that is also fine. We will ignore them right back. Anything less than full withdrawl from TGS, demilitarization, and reformation in the AU government will be greeted most unfavorably back home. And you must understand, Premier, that I am not a man of diplomacy. I come here to represent every single soldier on the uneasy border between occupied TGS territory and TGS. If it becomes clear that these people do not want peace, that is also fine. The ceasefire will be void, and the war will end in no time.. and we will be the victors."

OOC: since we announced that we wouldn't talk to you, Cred will have to be the middle man. Everything we say he'll pass on to you and vica versa.

OOC: Credonia isn't here, you have to talk to us, that is, if you want peace.

OOC: Same rules as before, me and Greenmanbry

"Excellent, I see we have similar viewpoints, that will help us a lot. I really fail to see the ponit of these talks, its not that I am against peace, but these people have no authority over us. Our troops are in AU and they can come and get them out, otherwise they do as we say. Our demands are not unreasonable, but we must make them see that."

Our demands are not unreasonable
OOC: I'm going to RP, once, some guy from neither side walking by and hearing this. He doesn't tell anyone about it.

IC:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHCOUGHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA. The man was seen walking off, shaking his head still laughing to himself. None of the Jewish delegates heard him.

Ferdinand looked at the man laughing and scowled, "I see we have some unstable folk in Credonia City.." He turned his attention back to the Premier.

OOC: I'm going to RP, once, some guy from neither side walking by and hearing this. He doesn't tell anyone about it.

IC:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHCOUGHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA. The man was seen walking off, shaking his head still laughing to himself. None of the Jewish delegates heard him.

OOC:You fail to see the whole picture, his choices are a moderate democratically elected government, civil defense force in place of military, he shall have the full protection of the Ottoman Alliance, on that I will give my word as Premier of Celtayoshi, if needs be I will defend him myself, and paying reparations for his imperial actions regarding certain allied nations and allowing us to station a base in his nation or being destroyed by us.

The Gaza Strip has only 3 demands:
1) Acre Union troops withdraw completely from all Gazan territory.
2) Acre Union compensates TGS for all destruction caused as a result of it's invasion.
3) All Gazan POWs be returned.

In return, TGS agrees to sign a non-aggression pact with Acre Union and will release all AU POWs.
We refuse to give up our strategic weapons program. This is non-negotiable.

OOC: TGS, role play it out with your person. It'll be much better.

IC:
Jonas kept wondering whether smoking was permitted or not, but he decided that it would be considering the importance of the discussions between the representatives and leaders. Thus, he pulled out a case of Union cigarettes, and lit one up.

Meanwhile, he began brainstorming his argument to deliver to the Ottoman Alliance for the sake of the Union.

These demands made by TGS do seem reasonable. Name a price and we'll negotiate. We think that you can keep X amount of nuclear weapons, but not keep getting more. So you can keep the nukes, but only a certain amount. Also, Gazan POW's will be released along with AU POW's, 1-for-1.

Jonas turned his head to Maayan, who he'd rather discuss his ideas to.

"Listen, The Gaza Strip and The Acre Union can become a Nuclear hot zone. If he builds them, the Union builds them. A 1 to 1 ration on Nuclear weapons seems reasonable, don't you think?"

Jonas turned his head to Maayan, who he'd rather discuss his ideas to.

"Listen, The Gaza Strip and The Acre Union can become a Nuclear hot zone. If he builds them, the Union builds them. A 1 to 1 ration on Nuclear weapons seems reasonable, don't you think?"
"As long as you both promise not to use them, and sign a document to that effect it seems like a very reasonable idea. You have the same right to defend yourselves from imperialists as TGS."

The Credonian President sits and listens to the delegates debate. Finally, he stands up and addresses the conference.

"Ladies and gentlemen. Let us all not forget how this entire conflict started. We know as well as you do that Acre Union was planning to conduct some type of offensive attack upon an ally or member of the OA. We did not know who it was, but we had a pretty good idea. We acted and neutralized the threat before it could be carried out. Where Acre Union can find the justification of invading another nation not even remotly part of the damn conflict is what we should be focusing on. The Gaza Strip did not pose any kind of threat to AU at any point in time at all. Furthermore, the three demands made by TGS are indeed suitable considering the fact that AU is seen, and there is no question about it, as the aggressor in this conflict between the two. AU can sit there and try to link TGS with the Ottoman Alliance all he wants, but the fact of the matter is that before AU's invasion of TGS, the OA as a whole, had no contact whatsoever with TGS and to say otherwise is just false."

"As long as you both promise not to use them, and sign a document to that effect it seems like a very reasonable idea. You have the same right to defend yourselves from imperialists as TGS."


"Promise not to use them? Why have them at all if that is the case. I move that they are only to sign them on a defensive basis. If the nation is attacked then they may use them, however if they attack they amy not use them."

Hayes speaks to Maayan

"Ask for a clarification from Credonia. I hear the high-flying rhetoric, but it doesn't look like TGS and AU are that far apart. We need to know his opinion on the TGS proposal."

President Sutton responds to the West Cedarbrook delegation:

"I believes that TGS's demands are more than reasonable. My last statement was indeed in favor of that proposal set forth by TGS, but I did not come out and say it openly. In order for hostilities to cease, all occupying forces must leave TGS. Then and only then may we begin talking about removing OA forces from AU territory."

President Sutton responds to the West Cedarbrook delegation:

"I believes that TGS's demands are more than reasonable. My last statement was indeed in favor of that proposal set forth by TGS, but I did not come out and say it openly. In order for hostilities to cease, all occupying forces must leave TGS. Then and only then may we begin talking about removing OA forces from AU territory."
"Well Mr Sutton, that sounds fine, but as we said, we need to establish a price. Also, it is only fair that for every Gazan returned, a Acre Union(ist?) is returned. This is the way peace deals work, each side has to give something. Also, if AU are to leave TGS then the same is expected of the OA, to leave AU.
And also, the nuclear weapons should NEVER, EVER be used. They are there as a detterent. The only time that they may be used is to respond to an ABC strike by the enemy.
AU put up no resistance and let in the OA freely, they never even fought. Why then, did Celtayoshian and Greenmanbryian forces STILL kill innocent civilians.
AU have already stated that they attacked TGS because of previous hostilities between them and the fact that they had developed WMD. TGS and AU have never been the best of friends and so they felt under a threat. I feel that TGS started this conflict by needlessly building nuclear weapons."

Neil Ferdinand broke into an uncontrollable fit of laughter, "Yes.... Yes.... we killed innoce......."

He could not continue. He feared he might explode. He waited for a delegate of an allied country to pick up where he left off.

Maayan stood up angrily, "Mr Sutton, these... people are here only to insult us and then lay down ultimatums. Well here's one for you. Go back to Greenmanbry and send a delegate who can respect other people, even, and I know this may be alien to you, even if they're Jews. Get someone who wants to negotiate. I am sick and tired of being laughed at. I'm out of here until you decide you want to negotiate."

"And I am sick of your lies. Please have the decency to get your facts right. TGS built nuclear wepaons after the conflict had begun. Thus your arguement is void. Celtayoshi forces, along with our honourable Greenmanbry allies fired only at civilian soldiers. I will not have my armed forces branded baby killers by someone who does not understand the facts. Now then, may a suggest you return to the matter at hand. Celtayoshi is prepared to withdraw from TGS in return for a complete removal of Acre Union forces in the area."

Neil's jovial mood suddenly and abruptly ended. His face became red with rage, and he stood up as soon as the Premier of Celtayoshi finished speaking.

"Don't try to pull those anti-semite tricks on me. Apparently, you were ignorant enough not to research your counterparts around this table. I am a Jew. Yes, I am the Minister of Defense of a secular nation with a Muslim majority. The Jewish Minister of Defense, I might add. That's democracy. That's equality.

You choose to avoid the facts because you are too thick-headed to accept them, Miss. Judaism is being destroyed by the likes of these Zionist warmongerers, he motioned at the delegate from Acre Union, "It is they who started this whole debacle in the first place, by attacking the Ottoman Alliance. It is they who attacked a neutral and defenseless nation, The Gaza Strip, who were in turn forced to choose the path of self-defense and develop the bastard child of science and war, the nuclear device. It is they who are threatening the entire peace of the world although they have already lost the war with the Ottoman Alliance.

They claim they laid down their arms while they plan to mobilize for an entire military campaign with the Gaza Strip. And you take us for idiots! You believe we would ignore his claims and look away while he attacks TGS? You must be out of your mind! We are at war with AU, not yourself. And if he mobilizes as much as one soldier after he surrenders and declares the conflict over, we damn well have the right to subdue that one soldier. Like the honorable Premier of Celtayoshi mentioned, get your facts straight, and let's get back to the issue at hand."

Ezzat cleared his throat loudly.

"Gentlemen, it appears that there are two issues at hand here: the war between Acre Union and the Gaza Strip, and war between Acre Union and OA. We should concentrate on one at a time.
Now, my government is ready for a peace treaty with Acre Union, on the conditions I mentioned earlier. Mr. Yiretz, does your government agree to these conditions?"

In a peace guesture Celtayoshi will remove its troops from the Gaza Strip, we assure TGS that we are committed to its defense and can redeploy rapidly.


Notepad note to OA members

The troops have been moved to the Acre Union due to the stalling of talks

If you wish to resume talks, you must COMPLETELY back out of the AU, only then can we talk.

If you wish to resume talks, you must COMPLETELY back out of the AU, only then can we talk.

"I see you have noticed that our troops are moving to the Acre Union, well you see, these troops are very low on supplies, and must go to the nearest Celtayoshi Military base to refuel and rest before returning to Celtayoshi. Nor will we back out of the Acre Union until you rpovide us with a satisfactory alternative to us staging troops there. And don't give me any non aggression pacts, they have been broken before and will be broken again, my people want real security."

If the Celtayoshi forces are seeking supplies and safety they should remove themselves to Celtayoshi.

"I see you have noticed that our troops are moving to the Acre Union, well you see, these troops are very low on supplies, and must go to the nearest Celtayoshi Military base to refuel and rest before returning to Celtayoshi. Nor will we back out of the Acre Union until you rpovide us with a satisfactory alternative to us staging troops there. And don't give me any non aggression pacts, they have been broken before and will be broken again, my people want real security."
"When were these pacts signed, and by whom? You were never threatened. I alerted both of my alliances to your imperialistic actions. We have asked you so many times. AU left TGS, so the OA should leave AU. You obviously aren't familiar with peace treaties so i'll explain. Peace treaties are where each nation gives something in exhange for peace, so far all you have made are demands. You DEMAND that he leave TGS. You DEMAND that he releases all POW's held by AU. You DEMAND that TGS be allowed nuclear weapons. You DEMAND control over AU. You DEMAND bases in AU. What are you prepared to GIVE for peace?"

"When were these pacts signed, and by whom? You were never threatened. I alerted both of my alliances to your imperialistic actions. We have asked you so many times. AU left TGS, so the OA should leave AU. You obviously aren't familiar with peace treaties so i'll explain. Peace treaties are where each nation gives something in exhange for peace, so far all you have made are demands. You DEMAND that he leave TGS. You DEMAND that he releases all POW's held by AU. You DEMAND that TGS be allowed nuclear weapons. You DEMAND control over AU. You DEMAND bases in AU. What are you prepared to GIVE for peace?"

"And you clearly are not familar with the concept of alliance and wars, we are oblidged to protect our allies, which we have done. As for the war, our troops are there, and therefore by right of conquest the Acre Union is ours, it can be no other way. If you want us out you either give us something accpetable, or live get us out forceably. Celtayoshi has also NEVER demanded control of the Acre Union, we just want its imperalistic army downsized."

OOC: I'm leaving this thread and ignoring Celtayoshi. This RP has gone on for too long, he's being too stubborn and this is just no fun. I'm ignoring this entire thread, I have never gotten involved with AU or TGS. I have never heard of the OA. Sorry for doing this, and sorry AU and WC but this is just no fun.

IC:
Maayan had had enough. She walked out of the hall, not saying a word and got into her hired car. She drove to the airport where a plane was waiting for her.

It was true. This was going nowhere. Jonas stood abruptly after Maayan and left the building, bounded for the city of Acre.

OOC: Shame, but your demands were unreasonable, given the effort the OA put in to this war, and the effort you put in.

"It is true, our resolve was better and our dedication unfaltering. Now my friends we shall not destroy the Acre Union as they foolishly thought, I have directed the Deputy Premier to offer the Acre Union one final time the chance to disband his army to 50% the size of Ottoman Khaif's army and pay each nation involved $20billion over the next 100years. He shall then let the Ottoman Alliance have one (1) base in his land, before we all sign a non-agression pact and end this war once and for all."

Neil was smiling as Sanctaphrax's delegate stood up and left the room.

"Good riddance." he muttered. He then smirked as the AU delegate walked out.

"What if they don't comply?" he asked the Celtayoshian Premier while staring at the door the two delegates just walked out of.

Neil was smiling as Sanctaphrax's delegate stood up and left the room.

"Good riddance." he muttered. He then smirked as the AU delegate walked out.

"What if they don't comply?" he asked the Celtayoshian Premier while staring at the door the two delegates just walked out of.
OOC: You don't get this, you never invaded AU, AU never invaded TGS. None of this happened. You are ignored, by me at least.