NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: I'm going to post the start of the project now because it will take about 4 RL Weeks maybe a bit less, I will start technobablying my way out when it closeer to completion.
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Commander of StarFleet Command: The phaser has reached it's prime and we are soon reaching the upper limits of it's desing. So today we are starting a massive project. Of a new Weapon.
The Quantum Phaser. While not actually a phaser in anyway shape or from. Instead of using light energy and NDP Particals to produce it's output. It will reley on Quantum Energy. And Qauntum Particals. A Weapon of this Magnitude would incredbly useful in battle. When finished the Main goal of it is to produce a massive amount of damage to the enemy. It will also be able to disrupt the entire subatomic structure of the target.

Project Completion 1/25

Go for it dude... if you keep to what we spoke about, it will be a powerful weapon indeed.

Will it still phase? And how are you using quantum energy in an directed beam weapon?

It is possible.
And as I said when it gets to about 90% I will start explaning it.

Will it still phase? And how are you using quantum energy in an directed beam weapon?

Considering most of quantum mechanics (and the geometry thereof) deals with the quanta and the effect they have on the forces the represent, I could very well see...gluons I believe being used to disrupt the electroweak interaction that holds atoms together. The one major problem is penetrating the quantum haze of particle/anti-particle reactions that permeates the universe and causes both the strong and weak forces to faze out at scales over atomic levels. Not sure if it could be done. Perhaps if you were to protect the gluons in a stream of photons or something...maybe, I don't know. Could work.

NOTE: Actually, funnily enough, I just remembered I have a weapon exactly like this, but less advanced. It uses an overpowering amount of the electromagnetic force mixed with particle bombardment to disrupt the electroweak force. My civilization can't quite manipulate quantum particles effectively yet, so we're holding off on working with quarks and other sub-proton/neutron sized particles until we can.

It's actually pretty cool, it can pass through any shield that has evena sub-atomic hole in it, and it starts a chain reaction that spreads out a bit. For instance, supposed the inital beam is ten feet in diameter. The resulting hole after the chain reaction dies off would be anywhere from 70 to 100 feet in all directions from the impact. The only problem is the immense amount of power it requires. Well, that and the costs to produce. The guns must be atomicly strengthened so as not to fall to the same energies that they project, and that is quite the process, let me tell you.

Um, all sub-atomic particles are quantum. Even good old protons and electrons, not just the ones with cool names like gluons and leptons and strange quark.

Um, all sub-atomic particles are quantum. Even good old protons and electrons, not just the ones with cool names like gluons and leptons and strange quark.

Meh, no matter how much I study it, I still have trouble considering anything but the quanta and quark-level particles 'quantum particles'. Tells me I spent too much time looking into normal nuclear physics before I started reading about quantum mechanics.

Meh, no matter how much I study it, I still have trouble considering anything but the quanta and quark-level particles 'quantum particles'. Tells me I spent too much time looking into normal nuclear physics before I started reading about quantum mechanics.

Are you taking classes to study it or general public books? I'm just curious as it would be great to know another physics major on here.

NOTE: Actually, funnily enough, I just remembered I have a weapon exactly like this, but less advanced. It uses an overpowering amount of the electromagnetic force mixed with particle bombardment to disrupt the electroweak force. My civilization can't quite manipulate quantum particles effectively yet, so we're holding off on working with quarks and other sub-proton/neutron sized particles until we can.

It's actually pretty cool, it can pass through any shield that has evena sub-atomic hole in it, and it starts a chain reaction that spreads out a bit. For instance, supposed the inital beam is ten feet in diameter. The resulting hole after the chain reaction dies off would be anywhere from 70 to 100 feet in all directions from the impact. The only problem is the immense amount of power it requires. Well, that and the costs to produce. The guns must be atomicly strengthened so as not to fall to the same energies that they project, and that is quite the process, let me tell you.

yes please tell us?

OOC: I'm going to post the start of the project now because it will take about 4 RL Weeks maybe a bit less, I will start technobablying my way out when it closeer to completion.
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Commander of StarFleet Command: The phaser has reached it's prime and we are soon reaching the upper limits of it's desing. So today we are starting a massive project. Of a new Weapon.
The Quantum Phaser. While not actually a phaser in anyway shape or from. Instead of using light energy and NDP Particals to produce it's output. It will reley on Quantum Energy. And Qauntum Particals. A Weapon of this Magnitude would incredbly useful in battle. When finished the Main goal of it is to produce a massive amount of damage to the enemy. It will also be able to disrupt the entire subatomic structure of the target.

Project Completion 1/25
very interesting the Fed union would like to work on it with you (if your accepting partners) we can give you access to many major facilities and equipment we can also help you fund it since the phaser is also our primary weapon of choice

Are you taking classes to study it or general public books? I'm just curious as it would be great to know another physics major on here.

Well, I've taken many Physics classes and I plan on majoring in it, but not yet, unforunately. For now, I steal my uncle's science journals and read them (He's a physicist).

yes please tell us?

Well, basically, the strong and electroweak forces that hold the atoms of the gun together must be fortified or else the gun will begin to disintegrate along with its target. I do this with an additional field that activates whenever the gun is fired. Unfortunately, even that isn't enough, and each gun is only rated at 150-200 firings before it must be replaced. Most of the technology in and of itself isn't too expensive, but the fields that project the WG bosons and gluons (Yes, it's technobabble and I know you can't simple project them to fortify an atom IRL, but it's the only technobabble in the whole system) to strengthen the atoms are VERY expensive. Enough so that the only class currently in my fleet that can carry them, the Ripper class Pocket Battleships are very rarely deployed.

I thought that they didn't become Quantum until the quark level. >.<

Well, my other question is this: Does it 'phase' like 'phasers' do? If not, I would simply call it a beam weapon.

Well, I've taken many Physics classes and I plan on majoring in it, but not yet, unforunately. For now, I steal my uncle's science journals and read them (He's a physicist).

Cool, University or high-school level? I'm just a first year physics major, and I'm loving it so far. My textbook kicks ass. I've thought of getting subscriptions to physics and astrophysics journals. But I only have so much money. Which ones do you find the best?

Qauntum is just a name, it really doesn't have anything to do with a phaser,

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Cool, University or high-school level? I'm just a first year physics major, and I'm loving it so far. My textbook kicks ass. I've thought of getting subscriptions to physics and astrophysics journals. But I only have so much money. Which ones do you find the best?

High school level stuff, mostly, though my sister's friend took a college course in it and taught me a bunch of stuff. And as to journals, you'd have to ask my uncle, he's phanatical about getting his son into physics so he rips off all the fronts of the journals and puts them on one of his bedroom walls. I could ask him, if you want me to.

High school level stuff, mostly, though my sister's friend took a college course in it and taught me a bunch of stuff. And as to journals, you'd have to ask my uncle, he's phanatical about getting his son into physics so he rips off all the fronts of the journals and puts them on one of his bedroom walls. I could ask him, if you want me to.

That'd be great if you could, thanks in advance. And good luck to you with your studies.

That'd be great if you could, thanks in advance. And good luck to you with your studies.

Thank you, I've been meaning to call him sometime soon, anyway.

OOC: I'm not gonna super techno bable like everyone else, I'm just gonna give a basic explantion of it and leave it at that.

project 3/25

I've decided to increase funding to 7 Trillion Dollars.
The finished weapon will be capable of disrtouping sheilding and the sub atomic stureure(SP) of the target

Project 4/25 due to an increase in funding.

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I'm making this 15 days because I'm gonna forget/lose interest in a month

8/15

I've decided to increase funding to 7 Trillion Dollars.
The finished weapon will be capable of disrtouping sheilding and the sub atomic stureure(SP) of the target

Project 4/25 due to an increase in funding.

Can it disrupt all forms of shielding? If so, how?

some types of sheilding, Phase sheilding it possibly could, but stanard frequancy sheilds it could, I'll explain it more when it's done

9/15

some types of sheilding, Phase sheilding it possibly could, but stanard frequancy sheilds it could, I'll explain it more when it's done

OOC: Score one for Static shields:D

50 Cats were placed in a perfect sqare and shackles held them all in place.
http://www.superlaugh.com/pets/kittycloth.jpg 10 of cats such as that one.
The Prototype Emitter was placed at one end of sqare of cats.;
The 1st Engineer laughed evily in the control room " Prototype Ready! Firing in 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Firing!"
* A Blueish wide beam shot out of the prototype emitter and into the cat in the center there was a hole right through the cat, a ripple effect moved out from the center cat and reached all the cats like ripples in a puddle the air seemed to have waves in it, then exactly 3 seconds later all of the cats exploded as the sub atomic bonds that held them together came apart, sending cat guts flying everyware*
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Our 1st prototpye is working, we now have a solid fondation and a working weapon. Or Cat Eater as we have come to call it.

10/15

Hm..

I'd just use a PAC for that effect. Of course, the cats would disintegrate, not explode. The atoms and particles would seperate, but not violently, even with yours. Just a tip. This would be a good anti-nanite weapon, if I'm any judge...

OOC: I just used exploding cats because it sounded cooler., :D everyone likes exploding cats, How would it be a good anti nanite weapon?

I'd just use a PAC for that effect. Of course, the cats would disintegrate, not explode. The atoms and particles would seperate, but not violently, even with yours. Just a tip. This would be a good anti-nanite weapon, if I'm any judge...

Electric fields, magnetic fields, rain, even a slight breeze are good anti-nanite weapons. Nanites really aren't a good weapon.

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It depends on how the nanites are delivered. If you try to just send the nanites on their own then yes, Nanites are a bad weapon. I have a set of missles that I modified to deliver a load of Nanites. now of course that is OOC and to use it IC against me would be Godmodding...

It depends on how the nanites are delivered. If you try to just send the nanites on their own then yes, Nanites are a bad weapon. I have a set of missles that I modified to deliver a load of Nanites. now of course that is OOC and to use it IC against me would be Godmodding...

OOC:Not even then are they a good weapon. They're in their missiles all snug, the missile gets shot down, nanites get blown around the globe by air currents and destroyed by solar radiation and atmospheric ionization and electric fields and magnetic fields and so on. Even if they reach the target they can be defended agaist with practically zero effort.

"Sir their are nanite clouds approaching the base!"

"Don't worry, our air filters will protect us, and just for good measure why don't you electrify the vents, that'll kill the little buggers."

Still a very bad weapon.

True, when are you going to build the energy sails around that star for me?

True, when are you going to build the energy sails around that star for me?

I'll start a new thread for it right now.

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OOC:Not even then are they a good weapon. They're in their missiles all snug, the missile gets shot down, nanites get blown around the globe by air currents and destroyed by solar radiation and atmospheric ionization and electric fields and magnetic fields and so on. Even if they reach the target they can be defended agaist with practically zero effort.

"Sir their are nanite clouds approaching the base!"

"Don't worry, our air filters will protect us, and just for good measure why don't you electrify the vents, that'll kill the little buggers."

Still a very bad weapon.

And if the missiles don't get shot down and they impact?

Suddenly you've got a rather nasty problem to deal with.

You've always been so vehemently anti-nanite (I kind of am, too, but I never deny someone the right to use them as long as they don't wank with them), why?

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And if the missiles don't get shot down and they impact?

Suddenly you've got a rather nasty problem to deal with.

You've always been so vehemently anti-nanite (I kind of am, too, but I never deny someone the right to use them as long as they don't wank with them), why?

And if the missiles impact the nanites get released,a brisk breeze picks up and the get scattered. Or they land in a lightning storm and have their circuitry fried, or because they're so small the UV radiation from the star physically breaks them down. Or you realize you have a nanite attack and set off a non-nuclear EMP weapon and disable them all. Or if you suspect a nanite attack just keep your people inside and electrify your air filters and vents. Problem solved, it's not so nasty now is it.

And I don't care if someone uses nanites. I'm just going to RP their effect reallisticly, and that means horribly ineffecient and ineffective nanite attacks.

Thats all well and good, but what if a Drone gets inside your ship, releases Nanites there, and proceeds to assimilate your ship. Standerd proceedure is to take away master control of the ship.

Thats all well and good, but what if a Drone gets inside your ship, releases Nanites there, and proceeds to assimilate your ship. Standerd proceedure is to take away master control of the ship.

OOC:Won't work on a ship with decentralized command and control structure. Nanites infect the primary computer core, it shuts down and the secondary takes over turning the air flow up to high, it sucks out the nanites from the atmosphere, then blows them into a vacuum where hard radiation will destroy them.

was not home last night so,
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OOC: I do not have the skillz nor willpower to start techno bablying, Most people on future tech already know how weapons like this work.
And I can have them all done in only 4 RL days because My Fleet almost never leaves my territory, which is in an alternate universe.

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15/15- PROJECT COMPLETE
ECF Ships will begin being fitted with the new weapons, after several years ( 4 RL days ) the entire fleet will have these new weapons, However details are classified.

OOC: You see, I have a spaceship that I send in down to the ground and release nanites from. The nanites form into a huge superstructure, with the ship in the center, and start kicking ass. It's more fun that way.