NationStates Jolt Archive


Trade Embargo on TFU

Solarais
27-09-2004, 09:25
The Minister of Foreign Relations sighed. He had finally finished the proclamation regarding TFU :

We will not trade with TFU. Any private companies eeeking raw materials, and later, selling the product to TFU will have anathema cast upon them by Solarais. Any TFU citizen entering Solarais space will be killed. Diplomats from the TFU will be killed. Any Nation allying themselves with the TFU will be regarded as TFU states. (The IC reason for this is quite, quite hidden)

Any nation at war with the TFU will get some economic help from us, providing they prove it. Any TFU incursion into our borders will be dealt with.

Transmission end.
Penguenia
27-09-2004, 09:29
While the Federal Union and Penguenia don't have the best of relations, we find the extra consequences of your embargo to go beyond what is necessary to hurt TFU economically.
Solarais
27-09-2004, 09:31
OOC: I don't have much against TFU personally, but it is an IC reason, and TFU seemed the best one for it.
Solarais
27-09-2004, 09:37
OOC: It is also not to hurt TFU economically, our nation simply wishes to show its displeasure.
Central Facehuggeria
27-09-2004, 11:35
IC: "We...Err...I applaud your moves. My government would as well, if such a government was in existance at the present time. In a previous day, we would have offered you staunch support. Perhaps in the future we'll be able to act to defend you against the inevitable Federal aggression that is to sprout from this seed like a weed. In the mean time, I only wish to offer you my moral support."

-Emissary Hayes, CF diplomatic corps in exile.
Solarais
27-09-2004, 13:55
Why thank you. As I said, I don't have much against TFU in real life. Just an IC. Im trying really hard to make that clear.

I might spy on him, or not spy on him. Muahuahuahua!

Also, why do you not have a government. Have you been thrown into anarchy? Invaded? All your people sit around sipping martinis all day, and there is no need for one??
Weyr
28-09-2004, 05:00
The Kingdom of Weyr will have no part in the recent actions made by our ally, Solarais. If a nation wants to shorten its life expectancy by several centuries and get prematurely glassed, then that is its choice. If a nation wants to randomly commit acts of agression against another nation, then that is also its choice. However, any attempts by the entity of Solarais to implicate the Kingdom of Weyr in its recent actions against the Federal Union will be considered a breach of faith and a possible act of war against the Kingdom of Weyr and the United Weyrik Prefectures.

Sincerely,
High King Alicia li'Wye
Swedish Dominions
28-09-2004, 20:20
As an Ally of TFU i condemn this action.
The Fedral Union
29-09-2004, 02:50
The Minister of Foreign Relations sighed. He had finally finished the proclamation regarding TFU :

We will not trade with TFU. Any private companies eeeking raw materials, and later, selling the product to TFU will have anathema cast upon them by Solarais. Any TFU citizen entering Solarais space will be killed. Diplomats from the TFU will be killed. Any Nation allying themselves with the TFU will be regarded as TFU states. (The IC reason for this is quite, quite hidden)

Any nation at war with the TFU will get some economic help from us, providing they prove it. Any TFU incursion into our borders will be dealt with.

Transmission end.

you do relize i you are commiting an act of war by killing my diplomats ..
CoreWorlds
29-09-2004, 03:42
State Department Notice
All Imperial Republic citizens are ordered to leave Solaris space at once. Solaris has been deemed a threat to the peace and security of the galaxy, and will (soon) be dealt with accordingly. This is a warning from the State Department.
Solarais
29-09-2004, 05:17
you do relize i you are commiting an act of war by killing my diplomats ..


No, not really. If I consider your diplomats as being criminals by entering my territory illegally, and none of your diplomatic documents will prove anything to me, I am simply killing a few spies, or common criminals. Plus, I have given them fair warning. The killing of your people is simply an inducement of merchants to stay out.
Solarais
29-09-2004, 05:23
State Department Notice
All Imperial Republic citizens are ordered to leave Solaris space at once. Solaris has been deemed a threat to the peace and security of the galaxy, and will (soon) be dealt with accordingly. This is a warning from the State Department.

Amazing as it may sound, I am most likely not a 'threat' to the 'security' of the galaxy. I am being unreasonle. Somewhat unreasonle, anyway.. A real threat to the security of the galaxy are people like the Shivans, (been reading a few old threads) who attempt genocide. Stopping TFU goods coming into my borders in not at all compromising the security of the galaxy. 'Dealt with accordingly'? I am not the one putting a blockade on TFU space. He is blockading ME. That is an act of war. Deciding to be xenophobic if one nation comes into your borders, for an IC reason, is not an act of war. It is simply being unreasonable with dealings of that nation. If I blockaded your space, your worlds, etc, and stopped all trade happening, it would be an act of war. (OOC: TFU's bloackade isn't hurting trade at all, FTL travel is hard to bloackade.)

So, if he attempted to stop my ships leaving my territory, into 'no mans land', I would have the right to fire upon him. Understand now?
Siesatia
29-09-2004, 06:17
I believe TFU has Gravity Wells, and/or Subspace distorters. Most futuristic technology nations use them. I use them as a kind of border stop. In other words, FTL travel would be effectively shut down.
Solarais
29-09-2004, 06:32
By FTL, I do not mean primitive FTL methods. Methods such as Warp Gates, Ionizing protection, and a few others a utilitised. Plus I have a fricken huge space empire (not by population, but a massive amount of space is covered( He cannot effectively blockade my space borders. It is impossible, without perhaps making use of the entiure TFU fleet.
Solarais
29-09-2004, 06:40
5 merchant frigates, the SS Hailene, the SS Yrvoi, the SS Oin, the SS Frogger and the SS Gorona all began going through subspace in TFU blockaded area. They were manned by a few enterprising pilots, who thought that the TFU fleet, being as large as it was, would want luxuries. They could then report info back to the Solarias Council, for even more money. The ships slowly began to jet towards the TFU fleet..
Solarais
29-09-2004, 06:53
BUmPozors it up.
CoreWorlds
29-09-2004, 16:50
Amazing as it may sound, I am most likely not a 'threat' to the 'security' of the galaxy. I am being unreasonle. Somewhat unreasonle, anyway.. A real threat to the security of the galaxy are people like the Shivans, (been reading a few old threads) who attempt genocide. Stopping TFU goods coming into my borders in not at all compromising the security of the galaxy. 'Dealt with accordingly'? I am not the one putting a blockade on TFU space. He is blockading ME. That is an act of war. Deciding to be xenophobic if one nation comes into your borders, for an IC reason, is not an act of war. It is simply being unreasonable with dealings of that nation. If I blockaded your space, your worlds, etc, and stopped all trade happening, it would be an act of war. (OOC: TFU's bloackade isn't hurting trade at all, FTL travel is hard to bloackade.)

So, if he attempted to stop my ships leaving my territory, into 'no mans land', I would have the right to fire upon him. Understand now?
Secretary Yano:
However, You are killing an ally's citizens, and from our standpoint, you are a threat to peace and security for that reason. Who is to say that you won't begin to kill other nations' citizens, including ours? Despite all protestations, that may very well be happening, and as such, we are taking precautions, and a serious interest in you.
Solarais
30-09-2004, 11:07
Actually, I never killed any citizens. I gave the warning because
1) I gave an embargo. If he could just walk citizens in and out, who isnt to say he would know exactly what I was doing due to spies.
2) I felt like it.
The Fedral Union
30-09-2004, 12:18
Actually, I never killed any citizens. I gave the warning because
1) I gave an embargo. If he could just walk citizens in and out, who isnt to say he would know exactly what I was doing due to spies.
2) I felt like it.

Dont try to save your hide now this Democratic republic, (the Fed union) wont stand for threats against its Citizens

You have been warned … in Fact the president was so dismayed at your action he could not be dissuaded to ask congress to declare war and the declaration of war reads:
We the people of this Democratic republic, and or congress have hear by granted the resolution to go to war against the country of Solarais they are a threat to galactic security, And will be dealt with accordingly …
Moleland
30-09-2004, 12:44
OOC: Not another embargo...
The Shivian Imperium
30-09-2004, 14:02
The Emperor looked at the messages he had recived on the crisis with TFU and Solaris. He swore under his breath. This could not happen, war would NOT happen. He must make sure that it did not. He made a message, trying to use reason to finish this.



From the Emperor of the Shivian Imperium,
To the nations involved in the Solarais crisis.
We, the People of the Wolf, The Shivian Race, BEG of you to stop this maddness, think of other implications of war. The People of Solarais chose a corse of action that may not have been wise, but Because it is there nation, They are allowed to choose who is allowed in or out. They are tiny, and, becuase this will eventually turn to a war that Solarais did not start, MY PEOPLE will have to fight, meaning WE get to be wiped out. We are the last of our race, you would be destroing us, for we would be forced to delcear war on you, as the CoS' Charter Dictates. Please, our nations have nothing to lose if we respect THe Solarais people's desision, but if war happens, there will be two races killed. So PLEASE, by the will of the gods, do not resort to war, find a peaceful matter, for thee is the possiblity of extiction of two races.


OOC Ok, I am asking this not to go to war, because I have been working on this nation at school, and loosing it now would force me to kill you with my puppet. PLEASE. Also, what did I do? When did I try to comit Genoicid?
The Shivian Imperium
30-09-2004, 14:05
Also, since his race is currently only a few million strong, for an entire race, how can you say he is a threat, hell, I could give him a run for his money, you would win via numbers alone. Why you attacking such a small nation?
The Fedral Union
30-09-2004, 14:23
The Emperor looked at the messages he had recived on the crisis with TFU and Solaris. He swore under his breath. This could not happen, war would NOT happen. He must make sure that it did not. He made a message, trying to use reason to finish this.



From the Emperor of the Shivian Imperium,
To the nations involved in the Solarais crisis.
We, the People of the Wolf, The Shivian Race, BEG of you to stop this maddness, think of other implications of war. The People of Solarais chose a corse of action that may not have been wise, but Because it is there nation, They are allowed to choose who is allowed in or out. They are tiny, and, becuase this will eventually turn to a war that Solarais did not start, MY PEOPLE will have to fight, meaning WE get to be wiped out. We are the last of our race, you would be destroing us, for we would be forced to delcear war on you, as the CoS' Charter Dictates. Please, our nations have nothing to lose if we respect THe Solarais people's desision, but if war happens, there will be two races killed. So PLEASE, by the will of the gods, do not resort to war, find a peaceful matter, for thee is the possiblity of extiction of two races.


OOC Ok, I am asking this not to go to war, because I have been working on this nation at school, and loosing it now would force me to kill you with my puppet. PLEASE. Also, what did I do? When did I try to comit Genoicid?
To whom it may concern:
This is none of your business we respect your request but by killing our diplomats they have declared war on us , we to wish we could have resolved this peaceably how ever they see it another way we will not be dissuaded from this venture .
This is an alpha quadrant matter ... so we ask you to stay out of it please..... Also we wish to ask if there’s any thing we can do to help you?

Office of the president :
United federation of planets

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Solarais
01-10-2004, 11:44
OOC: (archaic speech :)) TFU! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO BORE IT THROUGH THY THICK SKULL. I NEVER DESTROYED THY DIPLOMATS. I SIMPLY SAID I WOULD. THAT IS NOT AN ACT OF WAR. YOU SAYING YOU WILL KILL MY CITIZENS IS NOT AN ACT OF WAR. NOR IS IT A DECLARATION OF WAR.
Consider this. If my laws are that all TFU citizens are to be killed, its not an act of war. My laws are my laws. Essentially, all you did was choose to interfere with my sovreignity. Nothing more, nothing less. Which IS an act of war. I may've incited you, but I did nothing wrong (In the war-declaring run of things) You responded to what I did with a direct blockade, and then attacked me. Deal with it. You are the offender. My nation may have idiots in office, but yours has offending idiots.
Solarais
01-10-2004, 11:47
Also, two more things.

1) TFU, could I please have your MSN/IRC (I have nothing else, if not, I can give you a link to download IRC) name.

2) TIN, you would not have any citizens in my country. They would all be burned alive before they got a chance to do anything. My people live on extremely hot planets, the larger the better.
Solarais
01-10-2004, 12:33
How hot. Describe thy race to me (archaism gets to be a habit...)
Solarais
01-10-2004, 12:39
Let me explain a few things

A) For their own safety, other races are not allowed on our planets. Exceptions can be made for extremely important state occasions.
Solaraisi live on heat. This includes the heat generated by anything. Planets, humans, other races.... The heat absorption is natural, and happens like humans grow new skin. Solaraisi cannot stand to live near one another, and so each takes up about 5 square Km of the planet. Any other race coming in a Solaraisi's territory will be either

1) Incinirated due to the exceedingly high temperatures.

2) Have the heat drained from their bodies, and, subsequently, die.

Either way, it is exceedingly unlikely that any of thy citizens are on my planets. If they are, and still alive, no attempt to hamper them on their way out of the nation will be made.
The Imperial Navy
01-10-2004, 12:42
now i understand more about your nation, i will withdraw from this thread.