NationStates Jolt Archive


East Coast Federation Goes Red ( sort of )

East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 01:00
OOC: This is more socialest(SP) than communist, but I'll call myself communist anyway.
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For the longest time the ECF was an system based on the system of the US a capitast country that was quite succesful. However it's capitalst/socialst system just didn't work. And it was not working the ECF. Canidates were being put in office due to the electorial college. A truley idiot canidate namely by the Name Of "bush" was elected. He was much hated by the people.
In Our new goverment. Each Adminsatrion will be elected every 5 years by a direct election. The new voting age is 17 compared to the old 23.
All corperations are being shut down. All ultilites,stores,supermarkets,private schools and or any type of business that has a major impact on the country are being goverent controled. Small business will remain independant. Finally the evils or coperations are gone.
The new Tax rate is 70%. Food,housing,internet even computers will be provided. However to get these benifits. You need to have a job to contribute to the country. We will do our best to make jobs as wideley avible as possible. If you are unable to find a job. We will give you one. In a goverment business or serivce or more servce in the militray.
Everyone must serve a period of 3 Years in the military/
Our living standards are higher than most capitalist countrys. We will have the lowest poverty % ever. Such as 0%. Everyone recives free healthcare and schooling up to the college level.
ANd the approval rate for this new goveremtn is 87%
Thank you,
Hallad
26-09-2004, 01:18
Congratulations comrades!

The Socialist Federation of Hallad
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 02:04
President: We thank you for your support. We decided to bring the best of a direct democracy and communism together. It's been 1 month now and poverty levels are now at 0% the military has gotten more powerful. The economy is truey amazing!
Communist Louisiana
26-09-2004, 02:51
We support the ECF 100%. We would also like to point out that your economy will stay strong. Our economy is frightening and has never fallen below very strong since communism was accepted through Louisiana. Now we have one of the best economies as well as citizen benifits and a very strong military.
Psov
26-09-2004, 02:59
Welcome to the international community of Free Peoples, enjoy your freedom from the chains of Inequality
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 03:15
We support the ECF 100%. We would also like to point out that your economy will stay strong. Our economy is frightening and has never fallen below very strong since communism was accepted through Louisiana. Now we have one of the best economies as well as citizen benifits and a very strong military.
Thank you for your support. It's been almost a year now and our ecnomny and education ratings have never been better!
Sarctic
26-09-2004, 03:32
As a fellow Socialist, I'd like to congraulate you Comrade! It is always great to see a nation throw off the chains of oppression! Have no hesitation to ask for assistance of me, or of any Socialist or Communist country.
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 03:37
As a fellow Socialist, I'd like to congraulate you Comrade! It is always great to see a nation throw off the chains of oppression! Have no hesitation to ask for assistance of me, or of any Socialist or Communist country.
Democratic-Communism is the best way to go! Capitist nations start out fine. But when evil leaders and corperations start to take over and opress people is when they turn into sick dictatorships.
DOWN WITH CAPITALISM! Socialism is the one and only from of goverment that can work!
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 04:34
bumpage
Xessmithia
26-09-2004, 05:14
Socialism is the one and only from of goverment that can work!

"Not really, people like owning stuff too much." Said the Xessmithian Prime Minister, "However we're still allies, regardless of your politcal idealogies."
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 07:00
I will explain more in deatil later. But once the goverment gives you somthing you do own it. And the goverment pays for it's upkeep ect.
Of crouse this could only work in a Future Tech Nation with a very high GDP. At least my form of communism anyway.
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 07:10
Official Notice from the desk of George Falwell, current Chairman of the Industrial Experiment Business Council

I am most pleased to see a fellow nation of advanced cultural development adopt the only permanent system of economy possible in such a clime as that of this glorious future. My fellow council members and I support you fully, and I wish to extend my personal congratulations at the stunning success of your switch.

However, I must ask, are you forming a communo-meritocracy, or the more despotic and primitive 'forced equality' communism of ancient idealism?
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 07:33
Official Notice from the desk of George Falwell, current Chairman of the Industrial Experiment Business Council

I am most pleased to see a fellow nation of advanced cultural development adopt the only permanent system of economy possible in such a clime as that of this glorious future. My fellow council members and I support you fully, and I wish to extend my personal congratulations at the stunning success of your switch.

However, I must ask, are you forming a communo-meritocracy, or the more despotic and primitive 'forced equality' communism of ancient idealism?
If you are referring to the system the former USSR from a long ago used then no. it's more of a communo-meritocracy but it's not quite.
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 15:49
pump the bump
Taldaan
26-09-2004, 16:20
Congratulations on your change of government. We are glad to see another nation throw off the shackles of capitalism and tyranny, and turn towards equality and freedom. May you continue to prosper forever.

-Taldaan Foreign Affairs Ministry
Tekania
26-09-2004, 16:48
Incomming Transmission....



Due to your shift in economies, the Republic will no longer be able to have trade ties with the ECF. Under terms of the CDEA, of which we are a signatory. We are sorry to be forced into this position. Orders are being sent our to all TRSN and TRSM personnel at ECF controled areas, space and territory to immediately return to the Republic.

While we can no longer have any military or economic ties... the CDEA in no way effects travellers/tourism... so our borders are still open. And I hope the Constitutional Republic and the ECF can maintain peaceful diplomatic ties in all this.


Respectfully, Eric D. Williamson, President of the Constitutional Republic of Tekania.

Reviewed by SoC J.E.B. VanMetre.
Reviewed by SoS Willard Genar

Reviewed and Approved by the Senate and House of Delegates in Joint Session.


Transmission ends....
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 17:21
President Of the ECF: It's sad that your people are so imature to break ties with us because we changed from a Republic to a Direct Democary.
Keep in mind, We are a Direct Democarcy people vote directly, there is no stupid electorial college. We simply ablosihed things like corperations and big business,
Never the less. Any Tekania ship or Citizens will be fired upon if they come into ECF Territory, Nameley the Starbase, Your people are not welcomed there. Consider our borders closed to anyone or anything from Tekania. Your ship has 10 minutes to get off before I blow it up.
Communist Louisiana
26-09-2004, 18:34
We will support the ECF with the mighty Red Navy if they are threatened.

Premier Bobby Jindal
Premier of the Communist Party of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, LC
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 18:50
We will support the ECF with the mighty Red Navy if they are threatened.

Premier Bobby Jindal
Premier of the Communist Party of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, LC
OOC: If you can get your Ships to move in space then feel more than happy!, Im future tech.
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Communist Louisiana
26-09-2004, 18:55
yea I forgot.

Secret IC: I do have 4 weapons satillites if they will help any...
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 19:01
yea I forgot.

Secret IC: I do have 4 weapons satillites if they will help any...
Secert IC: The ECF is a massive nation thats not even located in this universe. We have a Starbase and 5 Light years of territory in your universe. Our homeworld is located in an alternate universe. And I dout 4 sattilies will be of any help. As our weapons can easliy destory a planet.
Tekania
26-09-2004, 19:04
President Of the ECF: It's sad that your people are so imature to break ties with us because we changed from a Republic to a Direct Democary.
Keep in mind, We are a Direct Democarcy people vote directly, there is no stupid electorial college. We simply ablosihed things like corperations and big business,
Never the less. Any Tekania ship or Citizens will be fired upon if they come into ECF Territory, Nameley the Starbase, Your people are not welcomed there. Consider our borders closed to anyone or anything from Tekania. Your ship has 10 minutes to get off before I blow it up.

Incomming Transmission....

From: President Eric D. Williamson, Constitutional Republic of Tekania.

To: The East Coast Federation.

We recognize your choice to govern yourselves as you see fit.

Our ships are leaving your territories at this moment.

We are forced as such by treaty, and must honor that.

We will inform the people of the status of the East Coast Federation and warn them of any trips there. And all ships have already been ordered to leave, and remain out of ECF controled regions.

Nevertheless... an attack on any TRSN or Civilian vessel leaving ECF space will be considered an act of aggression and war against the Republic and her people. And will be dealt with swiftly. We are sorry you have had to resort to immaturity and childish threats. But we have come to expect no less from fascists and communistsic statist attitudes....

....Message ends....
Much happiness
26-09-2004, 19:09
Congratulations Comrade maybe now we can be friends?
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 19:31
Incomming Transmission....

From: President Eric D. Williamson, Constitutional Republic of Tekania.

To: The East Coast Federation.

We recognize your choice to govern yourselves as you see fit.

Our ships are leaving your territories at this moment.

We are forced as such by treaty, and must honor that.

We will inform the people of the status of the East Coast Federation and warn them of any trips there. And all ships have already been ordered to leave, and remain out of ECF controled regions.

Nevertheless... an attack on any TRSN or Civilian vessel leaving ECF space will be considered an act of aggression and war against the Republic and her people. And will be dealt with swiftly. We are sorry you have had to resort to immaturity and childish threats. But we have come to expect no less from fascists and communistsic statist attitudes....

....Message ends....

President Of ECF: Facists? Well a Direct Democary is soooooooooooooooooo facist * cough moron cough *. Your ships and people will be allowed to leave and they have exactly 4 hours to do so. After that time limit expires any ships heading out of the ECF will be allowed to leave. If ONE SHIP enters I will blow it out of space. If you ever declare war on one of my new communist allies I will glass you. I can win easliy and you know it.
Tekania
26-09-2004, 20:35
President Of ECF: Facists? Well a Direct Democary is soooooooooooooooooo facist * cough moron cough *. Your ships and people will be allowed to leave and they have exactly 4 hours to do so. After that time limit expires any ships heading out of the ECF will be allowed to leave. If ONE SHIP enters I will blow it out of space. If you ever declare war on one of my new communist allies I will glass you. I can win easliy and you know it.

President Eric D. Williamson:

I didn't say you were fascist, just communist, both evil statism, however, regardless.

As for your threats, you have been the only party up to this point to act in hostile matters, and it has not gone unnoticed.

Off the records, the Republic recommends that you take your egocentrism and warmongering mentality, and shove it up your collective hind-ends.

On the records, we put the ECF under notice, for potential or threatened violation of UN Resolution #49.

But once again, we find this of no suprise from statist nations, operating like the children they are.

It is obvious, your nation is not very evolved as a people. In several centuries, when your nation has progressed, mentally, passed childishness, we can possibly progress to diplomatic relations once again.
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 23:17
President Eric D. Williamson:

I didn't say you were fascist, just communist, both evil statism, however, regardless.

As for your threats, you have been the only party up to this point to act in hostile matters, and it has not gone unnoticed.

Off the records, the Republic recommends that you take your egocentrism and warmongering mentality, and shove it up your collective hind-ends.

On the records, we put the ECF under notice, for potential or threatened violation of UN Resolution #49.

But once again, we find this of no suprise from statist nations, operating like the children they are.

It is obvious, your nation is not very evolved as a people. In several centuries, when your nation has progressed, mentally, passed childishness, we can possibly progress to diplomatic relations once again.
President of The ECF:
Breaking all ralations with a nation just because they are socialist is very child like reason. I dont know what your nation is like. We inhabit 8 worlds in 3 systems, in an alternate universe. We have achived an utopian paradise status. We no longer need things like big business and corperations. Everyone has more than they will probably ever need.
We are NOT COMMUNIST. Everyone probably has more rights then they would in an opprseive Republic such as yours.
I also reserve the right to block anyone weather it be a nation or an entire race of people. That inculdes you. You will stay away from the ECF.
I could care less about your UN and would like to know what Reaultion 49 is. We have not harmed anyone.
No we are not warmongers There have been a total of 3 wars in the ECF's 300 long year history.
So I think I'll stoop myself a bit lower by saying this.
STay out of our territory or I'm gonna take a phaser beam and shove it up your ass.
Tekania
26-09-2004, 23:34
President of The ECF:
Breaking all ralations with a nation just because they are socialist is very child like reason. I dont know what your nation is like. We inhabit 8 worlds in 3 systems, in an alternate universe. We have achived an utopian paradise status. We no longer need things like big business and corperations. Everyone has more than they will probably ever need.
We are NOT COMMUNIST. Everyone probably has more rights then they would in an opprseive Republic such as yours.
I also reserve the right to block anyone weather it be a nation or an entire race of people. That inculdes you. You will stay away from the ECF.
I could care less about your UN and would like to know what Reaultion 49 is. We have not harmed anyone.
No we are not warmongers There have been a total of 3 wars in the ECF's 300 long year history.
So I think I'll stoop myself a bit lower by saying this.
STay out of our territory or I'm gonna take a phaser beam and shove it up your ass.

President Eric D. Williamson:

I'm sorry if you don't understand, we have tried to be as civil as possible in this. The only reason we are breaking, as such, is that it is a stipulation in an existing Defense treaty we have, as such, it was never intended as an insult to you or your nation. We only do so, in honor of our existing treaty we have with other parties. It was you who took the aggressive stance in this, very unneededly so. Tekania has never started a war, and we have no plan to ever. Tekania is a nation of honor, sir, and we will not dishonor our own treaties as such. The treaty stipulates that we, as signatories, can not have military and economic relations with communist nations. It also stipulates that we will not get involved in internal affairs communist nations, nor attack communist nations unless first attacked by them. We are neither war-mogerers, nor are we corrupt. I'm sorry if you don't understand the concept of honoring treaties. As such, our ethics dictate that we must.
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 23:51
President Eric D. Williamson:

I'm sorry if you don't understand, we have tried to be as civil as possible in this. The only reason we are breaking, as such, is that it is a stipulation in an existing Defense treaty we have, as such, it was never intended as an insult to you or your nation. We only do so, in honor of our existing treaty we have with other parties. It was you who took the aggressive stance in this, very unneededly so. Tekania has never started a war, and we have no plan to ever. Tekania is a nation of honor, sir, and we will not dishonor our own treaties as such. The treaty stipulates that we, as signatories, can not have military and economic relations with communist nations. It also stipulates that we will not get involved in internal affairs communist nations, nor attack communist nations unless first attacked by them. We are neither war-mogerers, nor are we corrupt. I'm sorry if you don't understand the concept of honoring treaties. As such, our ethics dictate that we must.
OOC: In case anyone is wondering I'm NOT a socialest in real life nor a communist so dont get the wrong idea,
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President of the ECF: I really don't think this is getting through your thick skulls. We are not a communist nation. We are Socialist I wish that you would at least realize that.
The order still stands. Though we have confirmed that all Tekania ships have left, Thats good for them. As they exceeded the limits and 2 Starships were very close to catching them.

If we meet your forces in space at any kind of event I want to lay out some one rule.
1. We will not fire on you unless you fire on us
Is that ok with you with you?
Also I think this is best for our peoples to stay seperated in as many ways as possible. I am cutting everylast diplomatic tie with your nation Expect for this one.
Tekania
27-09-2004, 00:13
OOC: In case anyone is wondering I'm NOT a socialest in real life nor a communist so dont get the wrong idea,
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President of the ECF: I really don't think this is getting through your thick skulls. We are not a communist nation. We are Socialist I wish that you would at least realize that.
The order still stands. Though we have confirmed that all Tekania ships have left, Thats good for them. As they exceeded the limits and 2 Starships were very close to catching them.

If we meet your forces in space at any kind of event I want to lay out some one rule.
1. We will not fire on you unless you fire on us
Is that ok with you with you?
Also I think this is best for our peoples to stay seperated in as many ways as possible. I am cutting everylast diplomatic tie with your nation Expect for this one.
OOC: The Republic of Tekania is a Constitutional Republic, primarily Libertarian in nature. Modeled as much after my own personel beliefs as possible. As a RL consideration, Tekania would not go to war, unless forced to from attack. And ECF, I don't hate you personally, I recognize most people don't play their own models here.... nor would I necessarily be as anti-socio-communist as I am here.. in RL, this is all RP.... the CDEA is an actual treaty (actually it's two seperate, the CDA and CEA... CDEA for parties who signed both) Tekania has signed with several other non-aggressive capitalist nations, as a means of common RP defense. And you announced yourself as Communist IC so I RP as that. On other notes, while Tekania is similar the the US in form, it is far different in operation... "Sophistry" and "Titles of Nobility" are in fact barred from government (IE. Lawyers cannot hold office)... no limits have been altered from the original 30,000 rule of "Representative" (of which we call Delegate) District representation. Presidents can only hold a single 4 year term (same impossition on Congressmen). So Tekania is far closer to the Democratic Federal Republic, than the US.

IC:
For your stipulations in deep space, and independant non-territorial regions, we concur. The Republic has no personal issues with your nation. And we will not provoke attack. And agree that cease-fire shall remain intact between our two governments and forces.

We honor your decision to close your borders as such, and have informed our people as such. Though we have no real power to stop civilian movement. On the opposite side, our borders are still open, and we have no problem with tourism, nor any use of established Republic trade routes, as long as its understood that we cannot get directly involved in your affairs, except in the case of piracy, where UN law would dictate we assist you. And we are bound to UN law over our own treaties.
East Coast Federation
27-09-2004, 01:08
OOC: Nice, Just want to let everyone know I'm not communist
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President Of the ECF: We have decided to open our borders to your traders and merchancts. But we are keeping them closed to any military and diplomatic ships from your nation.
There seems to be a strong Anti Socialist sentiment from you. At least your not giving me that " socialism does not work " crap. And I comend you for that.
Industrial Experiment
27-09-2004, 01:12
OOC: Nice, Just want to let everyone know I'm not communist

OoC: Sorry to interrupt, but I wish to know what the problem would be if you actually were.
Tekania
27-09-2004, 01:53
OOC: Nice, Just want to let everyone know I'm not communist
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President Of the ECF: We have decided to open our borders to your traders and merchancts. But we are keeping them closed to any military and diplomatic ships from your nation.
There seems to be a strong Anti Socialist sentiment from you. At least your not giving me that " socialism does not work " crap. And I comend you for that.

We have no problem with socio-communist states in general. Only in the instance where they have tried to impose rule or control over the Republic and her people. Our alliance was for mutual defense in such cases, and does not extend above that. We abhor the anti-ist type movements that wish to erradicate others based on beliefs or ideals. The CDEA is a defensive and economic alliance, and not anti-ist in nature. During the formation we removed several representative delegates of those other movements. Our extent of anti-socialism extends to the limit of our personal experience of the ease of abuse of the system. Not to mention our Libertarian mentality keeps government involvement in people's lives to the minimum, so most of its concepts are alien to our needs or philosophy.