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Stop The Red: Anti-Communist Revolution Alliance

Generic empire
25-09-2004, 05:42
Across the world, even as we speak, they are plotting. Vile, disgusting Marxists, spinning their webs of propaganda and lies. They meet in the shadows, plotting the destruction of all that is good and wholesome in this world. They seek to shackle every citizen of every free country with the chains of Communist economic systems.

recently they have crept from their holes to commit acts of violence across the globe. They murder children, rape women, and commit every unspeakable attrocity that would turn a sane man's stomach.

It is happening, my brothers. Their long awaited revolutions are coming. They seek to spill our blood and hang us from lampposts, so that they may have their way with our families, friends, government. I cite roach-Busters and the Borman Empire among victims of this cancer.

Yes, it is a cancer. a cancer spread by rapid multiplication of warped thought. A plague that would ruin us, and plunge us into the dark ages.

There are many, far too many who support these murderers. Communist Louisiana and his gang of Marxist hoodlums, for one. They supply the killers with every trick and toy that a terrorist could dream of. These governments thirst for the blood of the innocent. They hunger for the flesh and marrow of the peaceful. They long to reach out with their foul fingers and spread their disease.

But they do not go unnoticed. We are watching them, always watching them. We see their plots unfolding. We see their minions stalking in the shadows. We see their genocides, and their unholy crusades, and we will not stay silent, brothers. We will stand together against this flood of evil. We will aid the governments that would see an end to murder. We will stop the shipment of arms to monsters. We will stop the red.

Stop the Red is an alliance of nations who would oppose the governmnet backed spread of communism. We vow to support governmnets who seek to end communist motivated terror in their lands. We give the good guys the tools they need to stop the commie crusades. We are the ones out there on the front lines.

If you truly value freedom and want to see an end to terrorism and murder of innocents, then sign up today, because:

Only you can truly stop the red.

Members:

Generic Empire

Sino

Green Moon

United States of Nick

Wirraway

Doomingsland

Sevaris

Borman Empire

Roach-Busters

Hocatate

Aust

Decisive Action

The Great Sixth Reich/Imperial Germany

Holy Paradise

The Lord's Relm

The Water Cooler

The Parthians

Rodriquezland

Official Motto
Welcome to the Jungle, commies.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2004, 05:46
"Oh yeah? Watch this! Ahaha!"
-Comrade Chairman Graeme Igo, CPCS, making a rude gesture.
Sino
25-09-2004, 05:48
Official Statement from the Sinoese Military Junta:

The Armed Republic of Sino will be proud to stand amongst the bastions of nations that are committed to prevent this tide of evil from overrunning the human race!
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 05:49
Official Statement from the Sinoese Military Junta:

The Armed Republic of Sino will be proud to stand amongst the bastions of nations that are committed to prevent this tide of evil from overrunning the human race!

Official Imperial Statement

Welcome to the club.
Sino
25-09-2004, 05:50
"Oh yeah? Watch this! Ahaha!"
-Comrade Chairman Graeme Igo, CPCS, making a rude gesture.

The ARSSWF (Armed Republic of Sino Special Weapons Force) replies with a similarly rude gesture but with an ICBM prepped and bringing 4 other (shorter) erected TBMs very close by. Forming the resemblance of a well known rude hand gesture in the West.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2004, 05:56
"Re. Sionese waffle: Being wrong only drives Drapoel aid higher!"
-Comrade Premier Sopworth 'Father' Igo, ISCBG.
Sino
25-09-2004, 06:05
"Re. Sionese waffle: Being wrong only drives Drapoel aid higher!"
-Comrade Premier Sopworth 'Father' Igo, ISCBG.

We're not stopping your sales of your children's carcasses to Dra-pol as food aid.
Sino
25-09-2004, 06:06
Official Imperial Statement

Welcome to the club.

Not the first Chinese nation to enter these halls I hope. There's _Taiwan and Chuang-Han China (also Sino's allies).
Sino
25-09-2004, 06:08
OOC: See if Belem's interest? He's just like Sino but only Italian-based and Catholic.
Grenval
25-09-2004, 06:22
[OCC - Fuck you!, but IC...]

Official Presidential Statement

While Grenval refuses to label any political parties for death, if this alliance is designed to stop problems on an ad-hoc, justified basis, Grenval will support and recognize, but not join, this alliance. Anything else poses problems.

President George
Ruler of Grenval
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 06:25
OCC - Fuck you!
((OOC: Right back atcha, buddy. No, but seriously folks...))
Green Moon
25-09-2004, 06:30
Green Moon and the whole Catholic Church are ready to slaughter every Marxist in the land.
Hattia
25-09-2004, 06:30
Vile, disgusting Marxists

Good thing I'm not a Marxist... :P

IC:

The Republic will, of course, watch this 'alliance' with suspicion. As long as you leave us along, we will leave you alone. But of course, if you decide you want to fight, we will rip you to shreds and feed you to the dogs.

We wonder, however, do you wish to stop communists coming to power through peaceful means?

Fyodor Leningrad Zyteslav
Sr. Commisar (HPA Ret.)
Prime Minister of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Hattia
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 06:35
Green Moon and the whole Catholic Church are ready to slaughter every Marxist in the land.

You're in. Grab a brochure and a baretta on the way in.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 06:36
Good thing I'm not a Marxist... :P

IC:

The Republic will, of course, watch this 'alliance' with suspicion. As long as you leave us along, we will leave you alone. But of course, if you decide you want to fight, we will rip you to shreds and feed you to the dogs.

We wonder, however, do you wish to stop communists coming to power through peaceful means?

Fyodor Leningrad Zyteslav
Sr. Commisar (HPA Ret.)
Prime Minister of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Hattia

This alliance stops revolutions. We do not oppose peaceful socialist ascentions. In these cases the people will soon learn the error of their ways on their own.
Chuang-Han China
25-09-2004, 08:23
Marxism, following strictly the Communist Manifesto laid down by Marx, is not in itself evil. That is idealistic and utopian in every way that any political system has it's own utopian ideals. But Communism is self-defeating. While perfect equalization of all citizens of the state, and the nationalization of the economy to maintain this are achieved, at the same time the body which must run and maintain this reforming state must become a bloated, authoritarian Government to enforce what it is trying to achieve. Any Government is in fact above it's citizens, and when Communist governments force Communist doctrine onto their citizens they are destroying one basic principle of the Utopia they hoped to create, choice.

While we support this movement, international organizations are generally unappealing to this nation.

We do not support this movement however, if it aims itself against a Government which is Democratic and Socialist (Socialist reforms, but is open minded to all aspects of the political spectrum).
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 15:48
Marxism, following strictly the Communist Manifesto laid down by Marx, is not in itself evil. That is idealistic and utopian in every way that any political system has it's own utopian ideals. But Communism is self-defeating. While perfect equalization of all citizens of the state, and the nationalization of the economy to maintain this are achieved, at the same time the body which must run and maintain this reforming state must become a bloated, authoritarian Government to enforce what it is trying to achieve. Any Government is in fact above it's citizens, and when Communist governments force Communist doctrine onto their citizens they are destroying one basic principle of the Utopia they hoped to create, choice.

While we support this movement, international organizations are generally unappealing to this nation.

We do not support this movement however, if it aims itself against a Government which is Democratic and Socialist (Socialist reforms, but is open minded to all aspects of the political spectrum).

This movement is intended to support governments whose people have become the victim of terrorist attacks in order to bring communist leaders to power. It is a counter to Communist Louisiana's 'Spread the Red' alliance, and any other nation or alliance that would arm communist rebels who perpetuate terror against a nation's populace.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:03
bump
United States of Nick
25-09-2004, 16:06
The United States of Nick (USN) wants to join the fight against vile communism.

Viva La Capitalism!
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:13
The United States of Nick (USN) wants to join the fight against vile communism.

Viva La Capitalism!

Official Imperial Statement

I like your attitude. You're in.
Wirraway
25-09-2004, 16:18
We agree wholeheartedly with the aims of this alliance, the communist, marxist and socialist threat to our thriving nations and economies must be neutralized and then destroyed. We would be most pleased to join.

Coordinator of the Concordiat Achilles Brown
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:20
We agree wholeheartedly with the aims of this alliance, the communist, marxist and socialist threat to our thriving nations and economies must be neutralized and then destroyed. We would be most pleased to join.

Coordinator of the Concordiat Achilles Brown

Accepted.

((OOC: Us TBA members gotta stick togethor.))
Wirraway
25-09-2004, 16:22
Accepted.

((OOC: Us TBA members gotta stick togethor.))

OOC: Don't I know it, I can't wait until we all have over 1 billion, then we can have some fun.....
Communist Louisiana
25-09-2004, 16:24
Official Statement from Spread the Red Alliance

TO: All non-communist allies of Communist Louisiana & members

We would like to take this time to point out that we do not wish to push for communism in our allies. You, our allies, have supported us and have seen what Communist Louisiana can do if she stands up for herself. We do not wish to make war where war is not needed. Our allies and the allies of members of this alliance are safe from the Spread the Red Alliance.

This means, not all nations will be prone to this alliance. I have many non-communist allies that I trust just as much and some even more then my communist counter-parts. I wish some of you ignorant people would read things fully before commenting.

Also I would like to thank the creator of the alliance for using my name often when discribing communist. Not only has it gotten me some publicity, but it has made the Spread the Red Alliance grow. Again thank you.
Doomingsland
25-09-2004, 16:28
Official Imperial Statement-

It is with great pleasure and consideration and blah blah blah. We want in.
Mora Tau
25-09-2004, 16:29
Hmmm, thats funny. When I attended today's Resistance meeting, I don't remember plotting to rape yankee women.

In fact, I remember a happy community of socialist activists enjoying themselves at the Brisbane Socialist Alliance centre as they went about the tasks for tommorrows monster rally against PM Howard. We had the telly on with the football game on in one room, a bit of local alternative music on, comrades made a vegan meal and we wandered over to the park over the road and had a meeting of about 20-30 members. Very nice. We discussed a few tactics for tommorow's march, how to make it as democratic as possible, we had a discussion on the Greens and shared notes about the last weeks before heading back to the centre where we painted banners and later screened a 1960s film about Berkely riots, about 200 people attending, all of whom later expressed their decisions to vote socialist, because we represent workers rihts best. Sorry, righty prats, but the facts are against you. We don't want to kill you, we want to fix the economy, introduce full equality and democracy and abolish things like Higher Education Fees, the secret police and the GST.

Comrade Christina

PS- there's many types of communism--- fabian socialism, anarchism, Kropotkinism, anarcho-sydicalism, libertarian socialism, Marxism, anarcho-communism, eco-socialism, Proudhonism, Trotskyism, Marxist-Leninism and so on. Stalinism and Maoism are forms of state capitalism.
Red Wales
25-09-2004, 16:32
Red Wales would like to point out that Socialism and Communism are not the same thing.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:37
Official Imperial Statement-

It is with great pleasure and consideration and blah blah blah. We want in.

Alright, Doom. Let's kick some Red ass.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:38
Hmmm, thats funny. When I attended today's Resistance meeting, I don't remember plotting to rape yankee women.

In fact, I remember a happy community of socialist activists enjoying themselves at the Brisbane Socialist Alliance centre as they went about the tasks for tommorrows monster rally against PM Howard. We had the telly on with the football game on in one room, a bit of local alternative music on, comrades made a vegan meal and we wandered over to the park over the road and had a meeting of about 20-30 members. Very nice. We discussed a few tactics for tommorow's march, how to make it as democratic as possible, we had a discussion on the Greens and shared notes about the last weeks before heading back to the centre where we painted banners and later screened a 1960s film about Berkely riots, about 200 people attending, all of whom later expressed their decisions to vote socialist, because we represent workers rihts best. Sorry, righty prats, but the facts are against you. We don't want to kill you, we want to fix the economy, introduce full equality and democracy and abolish things like Higher Education Fees, the secret police and the GST.

Comrade Christina

PS- there's many types of communism--- fabian socialism, anarchism, Kropotkinism, anarcho-sydicalism, libertarian socialism, Marxism, anarcho-communism, eco-socialism, Proudhonism, Trotskyism, Marxist-Leninism and so on. Stalinism and Maoism are forms of state capitalism.

Whatever. You're all lefties to me.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 16:50
Also I would like to thank the creator of the alliance for using my name often when discribing communist. Not only has it gotten me some publicity, but it has made the Spread the Red Alliance grow. Again thank you.

It's only fair. We have to give the ass a chance before kicking it.
Svea Riga
25-09-2004, 16:59
OOC: Nice post!

IC: Die imperialist dogs!
Sevaris
25-09-2004, 17:01
We would be most happy to join this alliance, in order to cotain the plague of our century: Communism.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:02
OOC: Nice post!

IC: Die imperialist dogs!

Marxist Pigs!

((OOC: Thanks.))
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:03
We would be most happy to join this alliance, in order to cotain the plague of our century: Communism.

Well put. Enjoy your stay in our alliance.
Communist Louisiana
25-09-2004, 17:07
Good luck with the whole kicking of my ass thing Generic empire. I hope you arent emotionally attached to the troops you send to their death if you do try to start conflict with my allies and I.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:13
Good luck with the whole kicking of my ass thing Generic empire. I hope you arent emotionally attached to the troops you send to their death if you do try to start conflict with my allies and I.

Now, now. Let's try to contain that ego of yours, before you hurt yourself.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 17:15
WO. Why am I not on??? As soon as this was created you should have just written my name down, you didn't even have to contact me. OF course i'll join. I don't know why you would think i wouldn't.
Communist Louisiana
25-09-2004, 17:23
Generic empire, as they say in Communist Louisiana, you can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

Remember who you are dealing with. I do think that I would have much support backing me since you are the one who is pushing for conflict with Communist Louisiana. I do not wish to go to war, but I will not stand for someone who will attack me or my allies.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:25
Generic empire, as they say in Communist Louisiana, you can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

Remember who you are dealing with. I do think that I would have much support backing me since you are the one who is pushing for conflict with Communist Louisiana. I do not wish to go to war, but I will not stand for someone who will attack me or my allies.


If you had read anything I have written, you would understand that this alliance is bent on stopping Communist Revolutions, not taking out Communist Louisiana. Narcicist.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 17:29
I'd definitely like to join! :D
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 17:33
Im Ron Burgundy?

(Bump)
Communist Louisiana
25-09-2004, 17:33
Thats strange Generic, since you have said "It's only fair. We have to give the ass a chance before kicking it." to me.

I do see this as a threat to me kinda like if I was to say multiple nuclear weapons are aimed towards your capital city and other major populated areas throughout your nation.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 17:36
Thats strange Generic, since you have said "It's only fair. We have to give the ass a chance before kicking it." to me.

I do see this as a threat to me kinda like if I was to say multiple nuclear weapons are aimed towards your capital city and other major populated areas throughout your nation.

If they were I doubt many if any would get through HDP. AND Generic's defenses.
Tyrandis
25-09-2004, 17:43
Official Statement from the Militant Imperium

"As all sovereign nations must stand against the Red tide, Tyrandis seeks to join this grand alliance of capitalist states."
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 17:44
Where'd GE go? :confused:
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:46
All requests approved.

((OOC: RB and borman, I added you guys earlier.))
Kriegorgrad
25-09-2004, 17:47
Kriegorgrad is a tyrannical-feudal country that has many ties to many Communistic nations, while we disdain communism, we simply sit down and realise that you can't beat communism, its like trying to kill all the oxygen on earth with nothing but your bare hands. Ridiculous.

OOC EDIT: And also, its quite odd seeing that you threatened a smaller nation with invasion...I'll quote what you said, "Imperial Praetorians will scourge your lands, burn your houses and rape your women", Yet, you condemn that very same action here. Get your facts straight!
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 17:48
Hey, GE, have you asked The Parthians? I'm sure he'd like to join.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 17:49
Hey, GE, have you asked The Parthians? I'm sure he'd like to join.

((OOC: Can you tG him for me? I have to go for a few minutes.))
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 17:56
((OOC: Can you tG him for me? I have to go for a few minutes.))

Sure. Will do.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 17:57
Awesome
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 17:59
Holy Paradise will want to join, too. May I invite him, GE?
Hocatate
25-09-2004, 18:00
Across the world, even as we speak, they are plotting. Vile, disgusting Marxists, spinning their webs of propaganda and lies. They meet in the shadows, plotting the destruction of all that is good and wholesome in this world. They seek to shackle every citizen of every free country with the chains of Communist economic systems.

recently they have crept from their holes to commit acts of violence across the globe. They murder children, rape women, and commit every unspeakable attrocity that would turn a sane man's stomach.

It is happening, my brothers. Their long awaited revolutions are coming. They seek to spill our blood and hang us from lampposts, so that they may have their way with our families, friends, government. I cite roach-Busters and the Borman Empire among victims of this cancer.

Yes, it is a cancer. a cancer spread by rapid multiplication of warped thought. A plague that would ruin us, and plunge us into the dark ages.

There are many, far too many who support these murderers. Communist Louisiana and his gang of Marxist hoodlums, for one. They supply the killers with every trick and toy that a terrorist could dream of. These governments thirst for the blood of the innocent. They hunger for the flesh and marrow of the peaceful. They long to reach out with their foul fingers and spread their disease.

But they do not go unnoticed. We are watching them, always watching them. We see their plots unfolding. We see their minions stalking in the shadows. We see their genocides, and their unholy crusades, and we will not stay silent, brothers. We will stand together against this flood of evil. We will aid the governments that would see an end to murder. We will stop the shipment of arms to monsters. We will stop the red.

Stop the Red is an alliance of nations who would oppose the governmnet backed spread of communism. We vow to support governmnets who seek to end communist motivated terror in their lands. We give the good guys the tools they need to stop the commie crusades. We are the ones out there on the front lines.

If you truly value freedom and want to see an end to terrorism and murder of innocents, then sign up today, because:

Only you can truly stop the red.

Members:

Generic Empire

Sino

Green Moon

United States of Nick

Wirraway

Doomingsland

Sevaris

Borman Empire

Roach-Busters

TyrandisI wish to join your alliance.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 18:01
You didn't need to quote the whole thing.
Talabec
25-09-2004, 18:03
This alliance stops revolutions. We do not oppose peaceful socialist ascentions. In these cases the people will soon learn the error of their ways on their own.

whats makes you sure? is this an excuse to go to war with them perhaps...
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 18:08
whats makes you sure? is this an excuse to go to war with them perhaps...
OOC: COuls i day n00b here?

IC: No, it's not.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:12
bump
Constantinopolis
25-09-2004, 18:20
The Holy Socialist Republic of Constantinopolis responds by warning the filthy capitalists and fascists of this self-proclaimed "Anti-Communist Revolution Alliance" that we are the sworn protectors of all communist, socialist and progressive revolutions in the world. We are also known to be quite trigger-happy in these matters, and, with the might of the Coalition of Anti-Capitalist Economies behind us, we do not believe you would like to make us angry.

Should you or your allies initiate any military operation against popular uprisings or revolutions in other nations, you will suffer the fullest extent of our retaliatory capabilities.
Aust
25-09-2004, 18:21
Aust will aid you, however we also inform you that another allince like this one has already been formed, the right wing collective.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 18:21
RB: Sure, Holy Paradise is always welcome.

All other requests approved.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:22
Cool, thanks. I'll TG him now.
Decisive Action
25-09-2004, 18:31
We're technically Stalinist-Hitlerites, but for all intents and purposes, we're the "Revolutionary Right Party", aka "The Mississippian National Front Party". Count us in.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:33
We're technically Stalinist-Hitlerites, but for all intents and purposes, we're the "Revolutionary Right Party", aka "The Mississippian National Front Party". Count us in.

(OOC: Sweet.)

(IC: Perfect! This could be another step toward reconciliation)
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 18:34
We're technically Stalinist-Hitlerites, but for all intents and purposes, we're the "Revolutionary Right Party", aka "The Mississippian National Front Party". Count us in.

((OOC: I was wondering when you'd show up.))

Welcome.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 18:37
((OOC: Anyone want to make a forum? I'm too lazy to do it.))
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:38
Lol, DA, how can you be a member of Stop the Red and Spread the Red? :confused:
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:38
((OOC: Anyone want to make a forum? I'm too lazy to do it.))

I would, but I don't know how. :(
The Great Sixth Reich
25-09-2004, 18:41
As long as this does not support aggresive actions, count The Great Sixth Reich/Impieral Germany in.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 18:41
Official Call to Arms

Our brothers in Borman are battling a communist plague. It is suspected that Communist Louisiana is supplying the rebels with weapons and supplies. The Communists are threatening to release a highly communicable and deadly virus. We must put a stop to this revolution before it gets out of hand. Let's save the goddamn day.
Decisive Action
25-09-2004, 18:42
Lol, DA, how can you be a member of Stop the Red and Spread the Red? :confused:


It's called straddling an issue to please both sides.


Basically with one hand I stop the red, with the other hand I spread the red, it balances out.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:44
It's called straddling an issue to please both sides.


Basically with one hand I stop the red, with the other hand I spread the red, it balances out.

What if the two alliances go to war, though? :confused:
Decisive Action
25-09-2004, 18:47
What if the two alliances go to war, though? :confused:


Then I make a killing selling weapons and mercenary services to both sides.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 18:47
Then I make a killing selling weapons and mercenary services to both sides.

Hmm, clever... :D
The Great Sixth Reich
25-09-2004, 18:48
As long as this does not support aggresive actions, count The Great Sixth Reich/Imperial Germany in.

Are we in?
Raptorian Federation
25-09-2004, 18:50
As Praetor Rapion was scrolling through the chatter with the Anti-Communist channels, his aggression emitters began to heat up. Before he did anything drastic, Rapion closed his COM channel and sat for a minute. Thinking… He then opened a new COM channel toward all members of “Stop the Red”.

“Dear respectable nations involved in “Stop the Red”,
It has come to our attention that you are willing to spend great military and economic might to stop our Communist spread. As the Raptorian Federation had joined the Pro-Communist movement, we are going to back it 100%. We request that you cease addressing us with such phrases. Such as: “Terrorists”, “Rebels”, and “Monsters”. Although I understand you won’t listen to my words today, I plead you just consider them. We are not here to create anachry; we are here for a better tomorrow.

-Praetor Rapion, Leader of the Raptorian Federation.”
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 18:50
Are we in?

Yep. your name's on the list on page 1.
The Great Sixth Reich
25-09-2004, 18:51
Thanks. Because the first "job" of this alliance might be to stop these two communist nations trying to kill me... See the "Imperial Germany Requests Help" thread.
Communist Maynards
25-09-2004, 18:52
Long live the Middle Class!
Hataria
25-09-2004, 19:02
Hataria would like to join the Anti-Communist Alliance.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 19:04
I reiterate my call to arms:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360103&page=1&pp=15
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 19:04
Hataria would like to join the Anti-Communist Alliance.

Well sice everyone ignores you, I can't let you in.
Communist Louisiana
25-09-2004, 19:05
Ok, I would like to say one thing. If you do accept Hataria in your alliance, I will loose all respect for you alliance. Well, the littile I have left.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 19:06
Ok, I would like to say one thing. If you do accept Hataria in your alliance, I will loose all respect for you alliance. Well, the littile I have left.

You have no need to worry about that.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 19:44
Bump
Stone River
25-09-2004, 19:45
Official Stone River Government Statement

We would like to applaud the efforts of the Anti-Communist Revolution Alliance to make the world a more stable place and to help reduce the threat of terrorism world-wide. While we can not join this alliance due to prior commitments, you have our respect for dealing with a very real threat to free world.

It should be made clear that while Stone River is opposed to communism in all forms, we have no problems with communist governments that are fairly elected by the people who will be governed by it. The will of the majority is paramount in any free nation, and their wishes should and ought to be respected.

However, we do have a problem with those who choose to take up arms and terrorize the populace of their nation rather than work within the means of the system. The wishes of a national majority can not be rightfully usurped by a minority that stoops to using fear in order to obtain their extremist goals. Even worse is those nations that openly and pubicly support terrorism in order to further their own corrupt ideals. Nations that engage in such activity should be ashamed of their blatant efforts to 'nation-build', and ought to be held accountable for it.

We sincerely hope that one day all terrorists and those nations who support them will receive the 'infinite justice' that they deserve from the good Lord.

Secretary of State Johnny Stuart
The Confederate States of Stone River
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 19:54
*Clap, Clap, Clap*
Tyrandis
25-09-2004, 20:32
Official Statement Regarding DA's Entry


"Although Tyrandis has no problem with any other nation in this alliance, we find the acceptance of Decisive Action to be repugnant and against every ideal that Capitalism stands for.

We must, therefore, regretfully withdraw our membership.

However, the Militant Imperium will still oppose collectivism whereever the Red flag tries to rise.

Death to Communism."
Sarctic
25-09-2004, 20:39
In a recent press conference today, President Onsorn, when asked about the Anti-Communist alliance, began making thrust gesture with his abdomen. He then proceeded to take both his hands and violently chop them at his genitials region, which universally means "Suck it!"




OOC: Joke, but seriously, I mean all those things. And, just to point out, Sarctic is a democratic Socialist country. The president was elected fairly in an election after a freedom revolution against the former, violent and oppressive Regime.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 20:42
Official Statement Regarding DA's Entry


"Although Tyrandis has no problem with any other nation in this alliance, we find the acceptance of Decisive Action to be repugnant and against every ideal that Capitalism stands for.

We must, therefore, regretfully withdraw our membership.

However, the Militant Imperium will still oppose collectivism whereever the Red flag tries to rise.

Death to Communism."

In order to appease our larger ally, Tyrandis, we must regretfully expel Decisive Action from the Stop the Red alliance. We hope that Tyrandis will see fit to rejoin.
Decisive Action
25-09-2004, 20:55
In order to appease our larger ally, Tyrandis, we must regretfully expel Decisive Action from the Stop the Red alliance. We hope that Tyrandis will see fit to rejoin.


Ooc- I will now be suggesting, reluctantly though, and with much regret, that all PSA members avoid this alliance.
Holy Paradise
25-09-2004, 21:01
Hello everyone.
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 21:02
Ooc- I will now be suggesting, reluctantly though, and with much regret, that all PSA members avoid this alliance.

((OOC: Hold on, hold on. I think the problems involved in expelling DA outweigh the benefits. DA change of plans, you're still in.))
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 21:05
The Imperial government fears that it has made an error in calculation regarding the expulsion of Decisive Action from the Stop the Red alliance. Thus, DA will not be expelled, and we hope that DA will consider this as though it never happened.

To Tyrandis, we hope that you may overlook Decisive Action's presence as a necessity, and see through to the core goals and values of this alliance.
Holy Paradise
25-09-2004, 21:06
Ever since the beginning of the CDA alliance I created, people have been deporting Communists to other countries. CDA stands for Capitalist Defense Alliance. RB is already a part of it. You all are invited to join it.
The RSR
25-09-2004, 21:13
'Across the world, even as we speak, they are plotting. Vile, disgusting Marxists'

Better to be a Marxist than a corrupt capitalist

'spinning their webs of propaganda and lies.'

Really, we're not that bad

'They meet in the shadows, plotting the destruction of all that is good and wholesome in this world. They seek to shackle every citizen of every free country with the chains of Communist economic systems.'

And you call us making propaganda?
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 21:15
Hey, GE, don't forget to add Holy Paradise to the list.
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 21:25
bump
Klington
25-09-2004, 21:31
Wow, you are one of the biggest sterotypers around.
First off, Marxists arent exactly communists there are differences, secondly, yes I agree Most Communism needs to use propaganda to keep tab on there citizens but some communist states arent evil countrys, some actually try to make the people work together to reach a common goal in there society.
And as a friend of mine says, "Communism, not Stalinism."
Generic empire
25-09-2004, 22:00
((OOC: Relax, commies. This is all just the IC way my government percieves things. I know what you're talking about, with the differentiating between different types stuff. I may not agree with it, but i understand what you're saying. So knock off the random OOC crap.))
Wirraway
25-09-2004, 22:05
((OOC: Relax, commies. This is all just the IC way my government percieves things. I know what you're talking about, with the differentiating between different types stuff. I may not agree with it, but i understand what you're saying. So knock off the random OOC crap.))

Ya my IC government is bunch of paranoid red-baiters and BTW Generic, when are you going to add our motto to the front page?
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 22:48
Ever since the beginning of the CDA alliance I created, people have been deporting Communists to other countries. CDA stands for Capitalist Defense Alliance. RB is already a part of it. You all are invited to join it.

Where can i join?
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 22:50
GE, didn't you say Holy Paradise could join?
Holy Paradise
25-09-2004, 22:50
I'll just put you on the list.
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 22:53
You mean me, awesome. But i would still like to know the thread so i can read and post about what is going on.
The Lords Relm
25-09-2004, 23:11
The Lords Relm would like to stop the spred of Commes and is willing to join you. i am a newbee so please fill me in with detail for what i'm sposed to do
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 23:19
bump
Decisive Action
25-09-2004, 23:23
The Imperial government fears that it has made an error in calculation regarding the expulsion of Decisive Action from the Stop the Red alliance. Thus, DA will not be expelled, and we hope that DA will consider this as though it never happened.

To Tyrandis, we hope that you may overlook Decisive Action's presence as a necessity, and see through to the core goals and values of this alliance.


"I can overlook Tyrandis's rogue political stances. I hope he will extend us the same courtesy in overlooking our right and proper stances that he simply hates."

Czar Roger Fabus
Borman Empire
25-09-2004, 23:27
bump
Roach-Busters
25-09-2004, 23:35
bump

Where? (Looks in mirror)

Oh, it's on my forehead! :D
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 00:06
Where? (Looks in mirror)

Oh, it's on my forehead! :D

LMAO, when did you invent that?
Roach-Busters
26-09-2004, 00:12
LMAO, when did you invent that?

Within the past few days... :p
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 00:16
it's funny.
Sino
26-09-2004, 00:31
[OCC - Fuck you!, but IC...]

OOC: Such rude words used on an international level, a true product of the communist education system.
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 00:36
I dont think Grenval is a commie.
Generic empire
26-09-2004, 00:39
I dont think Grenval is a commie.

((OOC: Yeah, he is. He's a cool guy, but he's a socialist.))
Roach-Busters
26-09-2004, 00:42
it's funny.

Thanks.
Sino
26-09-2004, 00:43
'Across the world, even as we speak, they are plotting. Vile, disgusting Marxists'

Better to be a Marxist than a corrupt capitalist

'spinning their webs of propaganda and lies.'

Really, we're not that bad

'They meet in the shadows, plotting the destruction of all that is good and wholesome in this world. They seek to shackle every citizen of every free country with the chains of Communist economic systems.'

And you call us making propaganda?

OOC 1: At least the capitalist has skill and ideas for making money, while the Marxist wallows in his rags and spend the day with nothing but dreams.

OOC 2: Communist propaganda only appeals to the uneducated poor. You don't see commies gaining a toehold in North America or Europe. Marx hoped that communist would first be successful in America and industrialized Europe but it turned out to be quite a force in backward and agrarian states like Russia or China.

OOC 3: At least capitalism occurs naturally (competition and struggle) while communist really have to fight their way into people's minds as their belief are contrary to society's and evil.
The Water Cooler
26-09-2004, 00:46
The HEWC finds this alliance to be agreable. We request membership.

The Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor Sohi,
The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.
Generic empire
26-09-2004, 00:50
All memberships approved.

((OOC: The Water Cooler: Awesome name. Not as cool as Bullets McDeath, though.))
Sino
26-09-2004, 00:57
Spread the Red Alliance

OOC: I still don't get it. So commies have a fetish for females menstruating? ('Spread the Red', just sounds perverted!)
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 00:58
I have but one question; what is your stance on communist revolutions in non-democratic countries?
Sino
26-09-2004, 00:59
The HEWC finds this alliance to be agreable. We request membership.

The Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor Sohi,
The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.

OOC: Dammit! Just don't piss us off!
Roach-Busters
26-09-2004, 00:59
I have but one question; what is your stance on communist revolutions in non-democratic countries?

The same.
The Water Cooler
26-09-2004, 00:59
We look forward to great things. We thank you for admitting us.

The Most Holy and Omnipotent Emperor Sohi,
The Holy Empire of the Water Cooler.

((Heh. Thanks. I have always thought Generic Empire was a cool name. ;)))
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 01:00
The same.

...as what? As this alliance's stance on democratically elected communists?
The Water Cooler
26-09-2004, 01:02
OOC: Dammit! Just don't piss us off!

((Hmm? What a strange response.))
Sino
26-09-2004, 01:04
I have but one question; what is your stance on communist revolutions in non-democratic countries?

Do such commies believe in democracy? NEVER! History tells that these devils only fly the democratic banner for expolitation.

A country like China is never suited for democracy. The people are too greedy and agressive. Best to put them under a militant ultranationalist regime with limited freedoms (OOC: Like my Sino!).
Sino
26-09-2004, 01:06
((Hmm? What a strange response.))

You supported the Dalai Lama!
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 01:14
Do such commies believe in democracy? NEVER! History tells that these devils only fly the democratic banner for expolitation.

A country like China is never suited for democracy. The people are too greedy and agressive. Best to put them under a militant ultranationalist regime with limited freedoms (OOC: Like my Sino!).

So you intimately understand the thought processes of people you've never met? Indeed, people who may not have even been born yet?

Allow me to give you a quick lesson in Imperial history.

Long ago, in the middile 21st century (My homeplanet is a planet exactly like RL Earth, located in a system exactly like Earth), our country was a Corporate dictatorship. No one had the right to vote unless they owned a significant portion of stock in the company that handled whatever they wanted to change, and no one could get that kind of money unless they were already incredibly rich. Indeed, there was no real government of any kind, just the corporations.

However, come the early 22nd century, counter-fit (I hate not being able to spell that word) currency production matched the ability of mints to put out 'protected' money. When the mints put out a new protection, the counter-fitters copied it. We initially moved to electronic forms of currency, but these quickly fell to a new type of counter-fitter, hackers. For several decades, the economy was in shambles and the standard if living inside the Republic was horrible.

Forunately, a new type of government, a communo-meritocracy, was set up. Not only that, but democratic reforms were brought to Industrial Experiment. Now, the nation is led by a democratically elected council, equally representing every citizen on all of our planets throughout Imperial Space.

Now tell me, can communists not set up a republic, or am I a shining example that they can?

Communism is inevitable with technological development; indeed, it is prefered as it is impossible for the almight dollar to rule anyone's life.
Sino
26-09-2004, 01:20
So you intimately understand the thought processes of people you've never met? Indeed, people who may not have even been born yet?

Allow me to give you a quick lesson in Imperial history.

Long ago, in the middile 21st century (My homeplanet is a planet exactly like RL Earth, located in a system exactly like Earth), our country was a Corporate dictatorship. No one had the right to vote unless they owned a significant portion of stock in the company that handled whatever they wanted to change, and no one could get that kind of money unless they were already incredibly rich. Indeed, there was no real government of any kind, just the corporations.

However, come the early 22nd century, counter-fit (I hate not being able to spell that word) currency production matched the ability of mints to put out 'protected' money. When the mints put out a new protection, the counter-fitters copied it. We initially moved to electronic forms of currency, but these quickly fell to a new type of counter-fitter, hackers. For several decades, the economy was in shambles and the standard if living inside the Republic was horrible.

Forunately, a new type of government, a communo-meritocracy, was set up. Not only that, but democratic reforms were brought to Industrial Experiment. Now, the nation is led by a democratically elected council, equally representing every citizen on all of our planets throughout Imperial Space.

Now tell me, can communists not set up a republic, or am I a shining example that they can?

Communism is inevitable with technological development; indeed, it is prefered as it is impossible for the almight dollar to rule anyone's life.

Go take your Star Trek elsewhere! Star Trek and Marx only makes a sad geek.
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 01:29
Go take your Star Trek elsewhere! Star Trek and Marx only makes a sad geek.

OoC: Star Trek? I'm pretty sure I never said anything about that, and I don't really watch it, so I couldn't tell you anything about it, anyway.
The Water Cooler
26-09-2004, 01:33
You supported the Dalai Lama!

In a sign of respect towards the Armed Republic of Sino the Way of the Water Cooler does now declare its complete disinterestedness in the Dalai Lama, and would like to reiterate that all religions other then the Way of the Water Cooler are ultimately nonsensical.

High Monk Brali,
Way of the Water Cooler.

((Ah. I see. :)))
Sino
26-09-2004, 01:36
OoC: Star Trek? I'm pretty sure I never said anything about that, and I don't really watch it, so I couldn't tell you anything about it, anyway.

OOC: The whole freakin' point is that this is meant to be modern tech!
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 01:42
OOC: The whole freakin' point is that this is meant to be modern tech!

Doesn't mean I can't discuss with you guys, not to mention that I have a small modern tech colony on Earth, anyway.
Tyrandis
26-09-2004, 02:21
"I can overlook Tyrandis's rogue political stances. I hope he will extend us the same courtesy in overlooking our right and proper stances that he simply hates."

Czar Roger Fabus

While as of this moment, the Imperium has only an ideological conflict with DA, Tyrandis refuses to take part in any alliance defending capitalism that accepts Decisive Action as a member.

Simply put, virtually all of your policies contradict the spirit of the system.

A free market? Your economy is dominated by state-sanctioned corporations.

A free people? Don't make me laugh.

However, our distaste of DA's policies is far overshadowed by our fanatical hatred of collectivism in any form. Therefore, this alliance has the sanction of the Militant Imperium of Tyrandis, even if we are not an official member.

Glory to Capitalism, Liberty, and Freedom."

http://ff.warcry.com/content/finalfantasyseries/ffvii/characters/cloud.gif
Executor Xavier Davidson
Executor of the Imperium
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 04:10
Cool
Sino
26-09-2004, 05:31
...as what? As this alliance's stance on democratically elected communists?

They should be observed closely as once they are elected, democracy falls and the purges begin.
Industrial Experiment
26-09-2004, 05:54
They should be observed closely as once they are elected, democracy falls and the purges begin.

Again, I ask you, do you claim to know the minds of people you have never met and even those that are not born yet?
The Water Cooler
26-09-2004, 06:01
Again, I ask you, do you claim to know the minds of people you have never met and even those that are not born yet?

Of course so.

-Yours,
Ministry of Oversight.
Sino
26-09-2004, 08:29
Krushchev once told American reporters, in the '60s that "with these changing times, I can assure you that your grandchildren will be communists."

In the late '90s, Krushchev's daughter and the husband became U.S. citizens.

Another example of the communist cult busted.
Rodriquezland
26-09-2004, 08:42
The United Reich of Rodriquezland would be very happy to stop the commie scum in their tracks. We will do all in our power to help in anyway, cause frankly if there was a gun to my head I would still rather be dead then red.

Rodriquezland would be willing to committ a fifteen billion dollar fund to this alliance, also ANY military force you might need so get back to me.

The Fuhrer, Andrew Phillip Rodriquez
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 17:35
bump
The Parthians
26-09-2004, 18:51
As a friend of Communist Louisiana I find this alliance's attacking on that nation to be warmongering and unrequired. I will join this alliance if and only if such vocal support for attacking Communist Louisiana is ended and redirected to Communist Revolutions in general.

-Shah Khosru of Parthia.
Generic empire
26-09-2004, 18:56
The United Reich of Rodriquezland would be very happy to stop the commie scum in their tracks. We will do all in our power to help in anyway, cause frankly if there was a gun to my head I would still rather be dead then red.

Rodriquezland would be willing to committ a fifteen billion dollar fund to this alliance, also ANY military force you might need so get back to me.

The Fuhrer, Andrew Phillip Rodriquez

We thank you for your support to this noble cause. your military and economic aid will be extremely helpful.

((OOC: Did you want to become a full member or just give support?))
Wirraway
26-09-2004, 19:04
Generic, I think we should pay a visit to the ECF thread and en-lighten him on the error of his ways.
Generic empire
26-09-2004, 19:06
Generic, I think we should pay a visit to the ECF thread and en-lighten him on the error of his ways.

What's the ECF and where is it?
Wirraway
26-09-2004, 19:12
What's the ECF and where is it?


Forget it, I just looked again, he's future tech and were modern tech, but basically he's a huge 2003 nation that just turned Communist and joined with Communist Louisiana in his spread the red alliance.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360333
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 19:13
Bump
Communist Louisiana
26-09-2004, 19:17
I would again like to thank this alliance for the publicity you have given the Spread the Red alliance AND to my nation. Not only have you made the Spread the Red alliance swell in numbers, you have given me enough recognition where alot of new communist nations are looking at me as the communist leader of the freeworld. I fill very honored to be considered this especially by all the new members of NS but by the people like you who apparently fear Spread the Red. Again thank you for your support.


P.S. ECF is a member of Spread the Red and is now a very close allie of mine. An attack on him will be seen as an attack on me, Spread the Red, and all other alliances I am apart of. That will be all

Sincerely,

Premier Bobby Jindal
Premier of the Communist Party of Communist Louisiana
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Wirraway
26-09-2004, 19:24
OOC: Get out of this thread already, were not spamming in yours.

The Concordiat does not fear your alliance, what do fear for are all the free and innocent people in the world which would fall under the yoke of Communist domination if we did not stand in your way. Wherever you seek to encourgae communism we will crush it like the invasive pest it is, all we have to say to you is

Welcome to the Jungle, Commies
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 19:33
Forget it, I just looked again, he's future tech and were modern tech, but basically he's a huge 2003 nation that just turned Communist and joined with Communist Louisiana in his spread the red alliance.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360333
No No Please go ahead and declare war on me and see what happens :D
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 19:34
P.S. ECF is a member of Spread the Red and is now a very close allie of mine. An attack on him will be seen as an attack on me, Spread the Red, and all other alliances I am apart of.

I've always had an unspoken alliance with him in my mind at least. I don't know why you felt inclined to mention it at all. Just the link and liitle talk about him. I didn't see hostilities.
Wirraway
26-09-2004, 19:38
No No Please go ahead and declare war on me and see what happens :D

OOC: sure, 10 of my flying M1-A2 Abrams go into hyperspace and emerge next to your Star Destroyer fleet orbiting Mars where they blow it up, a war would probably work out well. BTW why would I attack you anyway, obvioulsy you didn't have a revolution, so there would be no need for intervention, read the title of the thread my friend.
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 19:43
OOC: sure, 10 of my flying M1-A2 Abrams go into hyperspace and emerge next to your Star Destroyer fleet orbiting Mars where they blow it up, a war would probably work out well. BTW why would I attack you anyway, obvioulsy you didn't have a revolution, so there would be no need for intervention, read the title of the thread my friend.
Well What if it was a Peaceful revultion?
OOC: It would take exactly 34 seconds to glass your nation with a StarShip :D
Wirraway
26-09-2004, 19:46
Well What if it was a Peaceful revultion?
OOC: It would take exactly 34 seconds to glass your nation with a StarShip :D

I would ignore you first, take your Star Wars tech or whatever you use elsewhere, :)
Borman Empire
26-09-2004, 19:51
oy
East Coast Federation
26-09-2004, 20:09
I would ignore you first, take your Star Wars tech or whatever you use elsewhere, :)
OOC: SW tech is for turd eaters, ST is where its at. But I would get ignored so there is no point of attacking you anyway.
Generic empire
26-09-2004, 20:10
OOC: SW tech is for turd eaters, ST is where its at. But I would get ignored so there is no point of attacking you anyway.

((OOC: Relax ECF, no one's going to bother you.))
Borman Empire
27-09-2004, 03:16
bump
Rodriquezland
27-09-2004, 07:38
Official Government Decleration

The United Reich of Rodriquezland has decided to take another step in stopping the communist scum, by requesting full membership. We hope by the size and economic strength of our nation we can bring some "bread" to the table.

Also if becoming a full member we are raising our original fifteen billion dollar fund to a fund with no set limit. We hope that you accept our application.

The Fuhrer, Andrew Phillip Rodriquez
The United Reich of Rodriquezland
Borman Empire
27-09-2004, 21:00
I thought i bumped this? DId it get deleted?
Generic empire
27-09-2004, 21:19
Official Government Decleration

The United Reich of Rodriquezland has decided to take another step in stopping the communist scum, by requesting full membership. We hope by the size and economic strength of our nation we can bring some "bread" to the table.

Also if becoming a full member we are raising our original fifteen billion dollar fund to a fund with no set limit. We hope that you accept our application.

The Fuhrer, Andrew Phillip Rodriquez
The United Reich of Rodriquezland

Accepted
Doomingsland
27-09-2004, 21:26
Well, communism is about to be completely elliminated in my country, but I'm expecting people to try and save them.
Borman Empire
27-09-2004, 21:35
All communists are dead in my nation. Seeing as they all dies killing women, children, babies, and fighting for their horrible views.
Sino
01-10-2004, 07:23
WAKE THE HELL UP! WE'RE BEING ATTACKED!

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7148248&posted=1#post7148248
Borman Empire
01-10-2004, 22:02
Most people are there.