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Because of Belem's acts of agression against the sovereignty of Atheist nations, the Kaiser has declared an embargo, effective immediately, on Belem. All goods entering Attica from Belem will be seized. All corporations of Belem in Attica will be annexed. Any embassies will be shut down.

It is estimated that the loss of a 3,000,000,000 person market will stunt Belem's economy signifigantly.

OOC: Attica merged with Polavakia a while ago. That accounts for the 3,000,000,000, stated at http://eropid.kuattech.com/ap )

OOC2: I am assuming Belem is modern-tech, since that seems to be all he ever attacks.

The Embargo is now in full swing. Agents are already hunting down Belenese merchants.

The Empire of Hataria also Declares a Embargo on Belem.

OOC: Aren't you molten slag?

OOC: Aren't you molten slag?
OOC: Fairly easy for him to enforce an embargo then. Who's gonna go there?

OOC: Fairly easy for him to enforce an embargo then. Who's gonna go there?

OOC: Touche.

Ministry of Information

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar, seeing that Hataria is nothing more than a glowing radiated capitalist state, hereby closes off all ties with Hataria and joins with Attican Empire's embargo of Hataria.

OOC: I am embargoing Belem...

we would like to bring all parties to the table of peace.before it turns into an international nightmare.is their any way to accomplish this goal through peace talks

Chellis is also not only embargoing Belem, but putting up a tax for chellian goods to nations who have been known to trade with belem recently. Such a tax can be levied by an embargo upon belem by the nation in question. This seems to be the only way to make embargo's do any damage.

Hataria will Fallow Chellis Idea.

OOC: I think it is a good Idea, Chellis.

"Although our Emperor is an atheist himself, he has agreed to help his allies whenever they are in need. He realises this will strengthen the (already strong) Vollmerian economy and returned to his home until this matter has been dealt with.
The Empire will open a new (+3.5 billion) market for Belem that will protect its economy from the effects of an Attican embargo. Hataria is not considered economicaly strong enough to engage in such actions and Vollmerians do not trade with the dogs from Chellis. Its a win-win situation for the Empire and we thank you all for that."


<[Otto Skorzeny]>
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Dr_Twist government is extremely concerned over this Embargo and will continue to watch the Embargo as it goes on.

Dr_Twist.

In response to this sudden embargo directed at our ally Belem we will up our import an export with 300% to Belem to counter any negative effects. This new policy will be put into action immediately.

Seing as we never have traded with Belem in the first place, we will continue to not trade with them. heh heh.

Tag

Seing as we never have traded with Belem in the first place, we will continue to not trade with them. heh heh.

^^^What he said :D. Actually, we don't trade with anybody, so you have our unintentional support in any future embargoes as well.

The Republic of Javeloon strongly urges all other nations to have respect for all peaceful nations regardless of religious belief. While Javeloon has full freedom of religion, over 93% of our citizens have professed no claim of religious faith. Because our trade policies do not permit government-mandated embargoes, many of our largest companies are free to choose not to deal with adamant theocracies.

Seing as we never have traded with Belem in the first place, we will continue to not trade with them. heh heh.

Same here...

When you start a trend, you know you're good... :)

wouldn't the closing of an embassy be the violation of a foreign territory?

wouldn't the closing of an embassy be the violation of a foreign territory?

OOC: Well, they could declare all embassy personnel persona non grata, expel them from the country, and revoke the Embassy's diplomatic status. Though, that would be extreme. :)

The Imperial Empire condemns this embargo on its goods when it is quite clear that Muru was the agressor in the war refusing to listen to the voice of reason.

The Imperial Empire also thanks the support of its allies for increased trade.

In Response to the Illegal Embargo in placed on Belem all trade with the Attican Empire, Chellis, and Hataria. As well as the freezing and government ceasing of all accounts of there businesses and citizens within the borders of Belem or any of its possesions or self running colonies. All foreign citizens from the said nations shall be arrested and detained indefinately as spies and terrorists against the Empire and shall be released only once the embrago is lifted.

The Imperial Empire condemns this embargo on its goods when it is quite clear that Muru was the agressor in the war refusing to listen to the voice of reason.

The Imperial Empire also thanks the support of its allies for increased trade.

In Response to the Illegal Embargo in placed on Belem all trade with the Attican Empire, Chellis, and Hataria. As well as the freezing and government ceasing of all accounts of there businesses and citizens within the borders of Belem or any of its possesions or self running colonies. All foreign citizens from the said nations shall be arrested and detained indefinately as spies and terrorists against the Empire and shall be released only once the embrago is lifted.

If any of our citizens are arrested, The Hatarian Empire WILL declare War on Belem

Well they will be arrested if they are within Belem.

we would like to bring all parties to the table of peace.before it turns into an international nightmare.is their any way to accomplish this goal through peace talks
Concern apreciated, but these nations are appaled at belem's actions and are embargoing to show their displeasure peacefully. This is merely a peaceful protest. A way of reprimanding his nation without war i doubt the risk of war unless Belem provokes it, and I dont think he will.

We are joining this embargo as we were also upste by the lack of respect for Muru's sovereignity.

hehe except hattaria. But dont mind him.

Im doubting that will have much of an effect with ornage state being thousands of light years away.

I thought i was on as NQP again. Anyway Notquiteaplace places an embargo on Belem. We have shown our displeasure at your actions already.

We have no Citizens in Belem, But we will go you war if Belem starts arresting other nations citizens.

The government of Intelligent Neighbors pledges its full support for Belem and offers to open a trading market with Belem. All (if they existed) markets with Chellis, Hataria and Attican Empire have been closed.

If Belem should deem it necessary, a task force shall be dispatched to Belem to aid in the preparation of defenses if this should come to war. We totally support the detention of said spies and will aid you in the capture of them should you require.

We will not allow nations to be bullied into submission due to an oxymoron. (Disrepecting someones sovreignty because they disrespected someone elses seems daft.)

We have no Citizens in Belem, But we will go you war if Belem starts arresting other nations citizens.

Just how many wars do you think you can afford?

Just how many wars do you think you can afford?Unlimited.The Ignored Godmode Empire of Hataria has ample naval vessels to blockade any and all NS nations simultaneously, while fighting a six-front war on three or four different continents, all the while maintaining an adequate force to defend his dozens of homelands, despite having been nuked, sunk, blasted, ignored, and otherwise removed from the equation.

Does that answer your question?

This embargo is meanigless simply for the fact that Belems many and large allys will more then take up what little trade he looses from it.

This embargo is meanigless simply for the fact that Belems many and large allys will more then take up what little trade he looses from it.
Agreed... Iuthia has had a trade embargo on quite alot of nations, including Belem, Huzen Hagen, Chellis and many others (generally listed on our black list). The point of such measures is to precent a physical conquence to our condemnation and to allow us to morally conduct our business with nations who are feel comfortable with.

The effect on either of our economy is pretty much nil because in order for it to effect either of us trade would have to have been stopped after we had been doing it... seeing as we've never traded I can't loose anything I've never had.

So meh... these measures have little effect though I'm concerned about the annexation of foriegn businesses and the actions taken against embassies. We will watch the situation carefully.

Trade Minister Fred Galwitz, Iuthian Trade Control

Just how many wars do you think you can afford?

As many as i pay for.

Statement from the High Commissar:
We would place an embargo.. except we dont trade with them.. shame.. not.

I am thinking of Blockadeing Belem.

I am thinking of Blockadeing Belem.

*Sounds of laughter can be heard in the International Communique before being cut off by everyone trying to be serious*

Oh mercy... I would seriously suggest not doing that as I've seen what Belem does to nations who declare war on him. Yes... thats right, war.

Incase you aren't aware, blockading a nations trade routes is pretty much an act of war against Belem and would be very much fatal to the ships trying to blockade an entire nations waters.

Again, we implore you not to take this action unless you honestly think you can take on Belem and his allies.

Minister of Defence, General "Buck" Turgidson

The Embargo is being extended to cover any nations that are allied with Belem, or are engaging in free trade with Belem. The same actions that occured to Belem will occur to them as well.

Also, for reasons undisclosed, the Rêchswehr (Rêchshër, Luftwaffe, Krïgsmarine, and Panzerkorps) will be mobilized.

The Embargo is being extended to cover any nations that are allied with Belem, or are engaging in free trade with Belem. The same actions that occured to Belem will occur to them as well.

Also, for reasons undisclosed, the Rêchswehr (Rêchshër, Luftwaffe, Krïgsmarine, and Panzerkorps) will be mobilized.

Hataria will do the same thing.

Also, for reasons undisclosed, the Rêchswehr (Rêchshër, Luftwaffe, Krïgsmarine, and Panzerkorps) will be mobilized.

Sitting in his office catching up with his paperwork for the day, Minister of Defence, General "Buck" Turgidson considered the events of the day. Belem had long ago been established as a nation Iuthia wanted nothing to do with, they love of all that his nuclear and their constant aggression against nations who use their national sovereignty to separate religion from state had set them a place in the Black List for a long time now… the only interaction to nations really had was probably something along the lines of keeping one eye on one another as most nations did these days with reconnaissance satellites. The latest intelligence was rather brief given the lack of any real infiltration of the nation so it was little more then second hand information and pictures taken from satellites. It often made for dull reading.

A polite knock on his door interrupted his reading, and allowed the man to have a break from the droning report. A young man entered the room with some papers and a concerned look on his face.

"General Turgidson, Sir. We have an update on the current situation between the Attican Empire and Belem, it appears that they have mobilised forces and are not giving any explanations for doing so."

The General considered it, but he didn’t need to think about it too much as it was clear that the reaction would raise tensions in the region. The mobilisation of forces in such a tense time would probably mean that Belem will make the same conclusion that the Attican Empire seeks to raise the stakes and in turn mobilise more forces themselves to make sure they are prepared against a possible sneak attack. Diplomatically it would look bad on the Attican Empire for their unprovoked escalation in the matter. It made the dull day more interesting at least.

“You know procedure lad, go downstairs and tell Central Command to have a few Satellites keep a position on those mobilisations and any large forces that come from it. I’d like to have a front seat viewing of their actions.”
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In the polar orbit above the earth; a couple of reconnaissance/communication satellites changed their course slightly in order to increase the number of satellites passing those positions for period. Iuthia then contacted it's allies for co-operation in keeping an eye on the situation so that the combined efforts left little room for missing any of the action.

No doubt Belem would also be watching these mobilisations with interest... it's a good thing ground control for both nations would be watching to make sure those birds had alot of distance between them.

Round up of Attican, Hattaria, and Chellis citizens is well underway within Belem. Anyone with a passport from any of those nations or a visitor I.D. that states those nations as country of origin are being arrested and transported to Coldsgate Prison.

Also with Hatarias recent claims to begin hostilities a Platoon of Inquisitors,half a dozen tanks and choppers on overfly have been deployed outside the Hatarian embassy.


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Satelites are being redirected to positions directly over Hattaria and AE to keep round the clock recon on military posturing.

The emporor has decided that, in light of the millitary bases inside Muru, and Belem's trigger-happy nature, that it would be in our best intrests to plead netruality.

Secret IC to all Embargoing nations: Keep up the good work!

The Empire of Hataria has Declared a Blockade against Belem, no ships are to go near Belem.

To: Belem.

If you Kill any Hatarian Citizens, we will Attack your Nation and Turni it into Part of The Hatarian Empire.

And you are enforcing this blockade how?

Blockade Ships

3 Black Lady Class Air Craft Carriers
10Dead Moon Class Curisers
12Neherenia Class Battleships
4 Yorktown Class Air Craft Carriers
20 Sea Wolf Class Subs
8 Pacifica Class Destroyers


OOC:If any other nations like to join The Blockade they can.

ooc: make a new thread for the blockade.

Belem, do you have a map?

Chellis isn't aware of any Chellians in Belem. Over 99.95% of Chellian citizens stay in Chellian borders or Chellian Territory borders, and almost all of the rest are in lodoss or friendly territories, with buisness leaders making up the vast majority of the rest. They generally don't stay long in the nations they are trading with, so as far as Chellis knows, there are no Chellian in Belem. All the same, Chellis acknowledges the right of Belem to arrest any Chellian citizens in Belem or its territories, as those lands have been marked off-limits for Chellians anyways, and to be entered at the risk of the citizen.

Chellis realizes that Belem will not most likely be directly hurt by any embargos, though indirectly large export nations will probably raise prices in the less competitive market, and hence raise prices for goods in Belem, not a huge hit either, but accumulated...

The Armed Republic of Sino will reciprocate the favor on he who embargoes our ally Belem.

Belem, do you have a map?

nah. all the ones I made never came out good. Basically for a good comparision Belem basically looks like China. same general shape except it doesnt flair out so much on its northern borders its more uniformed. Also the East is the only coastal area.

The Embargo is being extended to cover any nations that are allied with Belem, or are engaging in free trade with Belem. The same actions that occured to Belem will occur to them as well.

Also, for reasons undisclosed, the Rêchswehr (Rêchshër, Luftwaffe, Krïgsmarine, and Panzerkorps) will be mobilized.

OOC: Guess im in this now....

IC: The nation of Safehaven2 stands by its ally and fellow RWC member belem and will activly defend her if nessacary.

OOC: Ok I guess I'm in this now...

IC:

The Macabee government has declared a state of embargo on the Attican Empire, Chellis and Hataria.... yea. Seriously, are you prepared to extend the embargo on more than forty nations? Because if you aren't you shouldn't extend it to Belem's allies.

OOC: Ok I guess I'm in this now...

IC:

The Macabee government has declared a state of embargo on the Attican Empire, Chellis and Hataria.... yea. Seriously, are you prepared to extend the embargo on more than forty nations? Because if you aren't you shouldn't extend it to Belem's allies.

The Dr_Twist Senate has Agreed in joining The Macabee's in this Move and will begin a Blockade with the Macabee Government.

Dr_Twist.

The Macabee nations thanks Dr. Twist for supporting our government. We will never forget about Dr. Twist's generosity and will one day repay the Dr. Twist government in kind.

The Attican government extends it's embargo to all nations associated with Belem, either economically or politically. Our Minister der Wirtschaft (Minister of Economy) states that trade with the Eropidian nations will sustain the Empire, for now.

The Attican government also demands that Belem release any Attican prisoners, or there will be retribution against Belemese in Attica.

The Kaiser also stated that as of midnight tonight, 50% of the nation's production capabilities will be slated for full military production, for reasons undisclosed.

The prisoners will not be released until Attica lifts all sanctions.

nah. all the ones I made never came out good. Basically for a good comparision Belem basically looks like China. same general shape except it doesnt flair out so much on its northern borders its more uniformed. Also the East is the only coastal area.

OOC: Hey! Then what countries do the West border?

Chellis will be embargoing any nation that embargo's it, and chellis will extend the same rules as it did to Belem to those who provoke Chellis. Additionally, we will be closing the strait of gibraltar to any nation it embargo's. Any blockade on Chellis will result in war, and possible NATO intervention(assuming they vote to help).

Chellis is mercantilist, and as such, will suffer no real harm from the embargo's upon it, as Chellis provides a large number of nations with goods at prices equal with each other. The only Imports are raw materials, and those are mostly acquired from smaller nations with resource-rich lands, as older lands have less and less resources.

Notquiteaplace condemns any nation whom is blockading another over this. There is no need to make a joke of each other's sovereignity, nor to embargo any allies. The action's of Belem's are Belem's alone.

We ask all countries to see ths rationally. Otherwise the ludicrousness of this situation verges on hypocrasy.

Our embargo remains.

The Imperial Navy is watching this blockade in good humor, and looking forward to seeing death and destruction over a little trade disagreement.

-Imperial board of Political humor-

OOC: you have a board for that? we leave it to the private sector.

I guess sometimes it does get silly.

Though it was ov er a religeous disagreement and Belem's reaction to this.

Intelligent Neighbors declares it's support for Belem, the Macabees and Dr_Twist and declares a blockade on Chellis, Attican Empire and Hataria. The Imperial/Western Isles fleet that was near Tyrandis is moving at full speed toward Belem, and will await further instructions.

OOC: Go team RWC!

Chellis will be embargoing any nation that embargo's it, and chellis will extend the same rules as it did to Belem to those who provoke Chellis. Additionally, we will be closing the strait of gibraltar to any nation it embargo's. Any blockade on Chellis will result in war, and possible NATO intervention(assuming they vote to help).

Chellis is mercantilist, and as such, will suffer no real harm from the embargo's upon it, as Chellis provides a large number of nations with goods at prices equal with each other. The only Imports are raw materials, and those are mostly acquired from smaller nations with resource-rich lands, as older lands have less and less resources.

The Dr_Twist Government requests to know how Chellis is planning to Close the strait of Gibraltar, a straight that isn't even in Chellis Hands. The Dr_Twist Government would like to State that if Chellis is moving within Sea's of our Allie VL to close the Straight it will be seen as a violation of that Nations Sovereignty.

Dr_Twist.

OOC: Hey! Then what countries do the West border?

West and South is Iron blood

The Dr_Twist Government requests to know how Chellis is planning to Close the strait of Gibraltar, a straight that isn't even in Chellis Hands. The Dr_Twist Government would like to State that if Chellis is moving within Sea's of our Allie VL to close the Straight it will be seen as a violation of that Nations Sovereignty.

Dr_Twist.

The Verbotten Lufftwaffe government has collapsed, and we are temporarily holding VL lands, minus spain and portugal, to make sure people don't take advantage of this time.

OOC:VL has been inactive for months I think, or a long time anyways. I moved into his lands, really to stop people from taking them over, me and him were allies anyways. However, as chellian forces are in morocco and gibraltar, they do control it...until he comes back, if he comes back, and then I give everything back. Really.

IC: Any ship that interferes with chellian shipping of any sort will be destroyed and that nation will have war declared upon it. Chellis would, however, like to sign some sort of agreement with belem allies to not blockade one another(Im not blockading Belem either, nor planning to), and in addition Chellis will not close the Strait. The embargos can and will stand, however.

The Verbotten Lufftwaffe government has collapsed, and we are temporarily holding VL lands, minus spain and portugal, to make sure people don't take advantage of this time.

OOC:VL has been inactive for months I think, or a long time anyways. I moved into his lands, really to stop people from taking them over, me and him were allies anyways. However, as chellian forces are in morocco and gibraltar, they do control it...until he comes back, if he comes back, and then I give everything back. Really.

IC: Any ship that interferes with chellian shipping of any sort will be destroyed and that nation will have war declared upon it. Chellis would, however, like to sign some sort of agreement with belem allies to not blockade one another(Im not blockading Belem either, nor planning to), and in addition Chellis will not close the Strait. The embargos can and will stand, however.

Vl has always been a Long Standing Allie of Dr_Twist since the GAPTS days. The Dr_Twist Government is concerned that this has turned into a War over a Blockade which was Illegal in the 1st place. How ever the Dr_Twist Government Has always had a long Standing Agreement with VL about access to Gibraltar, Also that if he ever Leaves NS i would Gain access to his Part of Italy as a Pre Agreement to him taking control of it During the Dr_Twist War.

The Dr_Twist Government has no interest in going to war with Chellis, and has always been friendly towards the government, All the Government has done is Match those and Nations who setup an Embargo and a Blockade for no other reason then for War. The Dr_Twist government would like to even sign some form of Alliance with Chellis to show that we will remain friendly and Enemy free.

The Dr_Twist Government would also like to know why the Chellis Government has decoded to join this Illegal Blockade?

Dr_Twist.

OOC:Chellis can you please write that on my Spanish Conquest thread? Reply to that coming later.

OOC: You do realize Hataria is the only one blockading? I am only embargoing Belem's supporters and Belem.

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None of us want a war. Therefore, we propose a treaty. We will stop the embargo, if you stop violating the sovereignty of atheist nations.

Our duty to defend the rights of the religious shall not be infringed.

Chellis as well has never had any real quarrel with DT, and viewed relationships to be apathetic at worst, and promising at best. We were haste in our actions, and will open the Strait to Dr.Twist, pending further actions. We will also infact not embargo Dr.Twist, though the taxation will still occur of Dr.Twist feels the want to trade with Chellis, pending new treaties.

Chellis is becoming a bit paranoid, as it seems to have threats looming in the distance...We apologize for our rash actions, and would like to discuss possible DT troops movements to VL territories, as Chellis has no want to take any of them over(With the possible exception of Gibraltar, which is a military outpost more than a civilian area). We feel more international troops, who are friendly with the old VL government, will make these nations feel safer.

Since when is forming Theocratic states in atheist nations protecting the rights of the religious?

If it is war you want, it is war you shall get.

We have not formed any theocratic states we have just made states more Catholic friendly there is a difference between the two.

No, there is not. Catholocism is a dead weight on humanity.

Well since you obviously wont listen to reason there is nothing for us to negioate.

The government of Intelligent Neighbors pledges its full support for Belem and offers to open a trading market with Belem. All (if they existed) markets with Chellis, Hataria and Attican Empire have been closed.

If Belem should deem it necessary, a task force shall be dispatched to Belem to aid in the preparation of defenses if this should come to war. We totally support the detention of said spies and will aid you in the capture of them should you require.

We will not allow nations to be bullied into submission due to an oxymoron. (Disrepecting someones sovreignty because they disrespected someone elses seems daft.)


OOC: This is Euroslavia.

We must express our concern with our allies' decision. In the war between Muru and Belem, Belem chose to force his beliefs onto Muru's citizens and government. He was the one that started the war. Muru's decision to strategically nuke his navy is completely different then completely nuking an entire nation, seeing as millions of innocent people died, while in Muru's case, it only killed the soldiers involved in the war against them.

We've made the decision to stand by our ally Chellis, and Attican Empire (Ignore on Hataria) in this situation.

However, we will not be taking part in the blockade.

The government of LRR would like to express its support in the embargo of Belem, and such an act has been a long time in coming.

An embargo against Belem only increases its trade with Sino.

el bumpo

Chellis as well has never had any real quarrel with DT, and viewed relationships to be apathetic at worst, and promising at best. We were haste in our actions, and will open the Strait to Dr.Twist, pending further actions. We will also infact not embargo Dr.Twist, though the taxation will still occur of Dr.Twist feels the want to trade with Chellis, pending new treaties.

Chellis is becoming a bit paranoid, as it seems to have threats looming in the distance...We apologize for our rash actions, and would like to discuss possible DT troops movements to VL territories, as Chellis has no want to take any of them over(With the possible exception of Gibraltar, which is a military outpost more than a civilian area). We feel more international troops, who are friendly with the old VL government, will make these nations feel safer.

The Dr_Twist Government welcomes these Moves by the Chellis Government. The Dr_Twist Government has also Removed its Embargo from Chellis in Return and will match any Tax that is placed on Dr_Twist Goods by the Chellis Government.

The Dr_Twist Government will begin Shortly Moving Forces into Italy for its Protection, But the Forces wont be in Large Number only about 80,000 Troops.

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I am still waiting for your economy to suffer the effects of the lack of Attican Cheese and Wines.

Garrison II supports Belem and will provide anything Belem requires