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Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

Whew, not in UN, so safe (cause if ya do even though we are not members we won't hesitate to stop it).

good idea. got to love UN loopholes

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

TO: The Government of Axis Nova
FROM: The Kingdom of Mauiwowee
RE: Underwater Nuclear Weapons Silos in international waters

We do not recognize an underwater nuclear weapons silo as falling under the exception for "underwater installations" in the recently passed U.N. resolution and unless and until we are specifically directed by the U.N. to cease, we will attack and destroy any such silo found in international waters anywhere in the world that we encounter them, not just in the waters surrounding Mauiwowee. We find these acts to be provocative, hostile and threatening in nature to the security and freedom of the planet and urge all nations to join us in this action. We also request that the U.N. clarify this matter ASAP.

ITD has declared all territorial waters belonging to our empire as Maritime Preservation Zones. Only ITD vessels and vessels with permission to be in the water may sail in these waters. ITD claims 90 miles out as our territorial waters.

We also do not plan on following the resolution as far as our colonies go. Our colonies are not UN nations, therefore they do not have to follow this rediculous resolution.

(OOC: Do you even know how many UN members there are? A lot.)

"We claim 200 miles out as our exclusive economic zone, and 50 miles out as our actual territorial waters. However, we are not in the pathetic UN, and as such, this doesn't even concern us."


Paul Stahlecker

*watches as Axis Nova bankrupts itself building tens of thousands of silos.*

OOC: The fault of U.N. members; they make horrible resolutions and disobey the ones that don't benefit them. I was so disgusted I left long ago..

The cost of building the silos alone woud bankrupt your nation. So, I guess it doesn't -really- hurt anyone to have a bunch of empty concrete wells out in the middle of the ocean...

However, any silos built near Federated Concordat territorial waters will be immediately declared artificial habitat sites for the local sea life. Any attempt to arm such silos will be viewed as a provocatory action, as we are not UN members, and handled accordingly.

ooc: Even the mod's are against this resolution, they are trying to get it removed. It violates several site rules. Because the resolution goes against the site mechanics, we can effectively ignore. It doesnt exist in my nation.

OOC: I'm just doing this to irritate all the people who never go to the UN forum and voted "Yes". :p

The only nation I'm really building tons of silos near is Mikitivity, since the Law of the Sea resolution was his idea :(

BTW, two can play at this game. Any UN member who reads this should follow suit.

My nation welcomes any construction projects in it's vicinity and I hope that you would consider hiring local labor.

the Empire of Ingimar will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution. In order to construct small titanium dome around the silo.

The Confederacy Of Harlesburg is appaulded by these action although we are not in the U.N. we understand this will affect the whole world but if actions need to be taken please use chemical weapons leave the rest of us in peace.

Edward Duke De Harlesburg
Lord of Harlesburg

That would require more nukes, costing more cash than you have.

at least 200,000 nukes

for the 100's of thousands of UN members.

at most you could deploy 1 per country.

and the retaliation blast would anialate you. I suggest you do not go ahead with this plan. Personally though i don't care what you do.

*is glad I resigned from the U.N.*

*is glad I resigned from the U.N.*

I left after they published a labor laws resolution that caused a nationstates-wide recession. It was the worst time for UN members economy.

It was a while ago though. you might not remember it.

the Empire of Ingimar will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution. In order to construct small titanium dome around the silo.

Very good sir. Keep in mind I didn't say I was putting missiles in all the silos... just that I'm BUILDING the silos.

Very good sir. Keep in mind I didn't say I was putting missiles in all the silos... just that I'm BUILDING the silos.

It's lucky political freedoms are 'rare' in your country, eh? You'd be voted out within seconds if they weren't :p... what a waste of money!

I left after they published a labor laws resolution that caused a nationstates-wide recession. It was the worst time for UN members economy.

It was a while ago though. you might not remember it.

I do remember a resolution like that, my economy dropped from good to basket case

We're afraid that this is unacceptable. We operate many aquaculture, mining and refining facilities as well as undersea submarine pens all around our coastline, and we consider any facility placed within 20nm of our facilities in our rightful territory.

Futhermore, much of the ocean surrounding Kanabian territories is difficult to access without coming within 20nm of the actual coastline along the route to the construction area, and we reserve the right to expel your construction crews.

However, despite our objections we do adknowledge that according to the UN laws you may build these facilities if you can find a suitable location. Although, we would like to present you with a plan that took one of our janitors approximately 1 minute to devise by writing it on the back of a napkin:

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/9416/yourplanisowned.gif

According to the resolution, this is perfectly legal as well.

Edit- Just noticed Ingimar's post. Oops. Oh well.

The Incorporated states would like to point out that we will consider this a act of war. Any attempt to do this will result in us attacking the ships involved in building them.

OOC: I voted agaisnt it, it has to be one of the worst bits to ever pass, it compeltely destroys a couple of RL UN/international measures.
its odd i never really noticed the various depressions other pople mention, maybe its because my economy was up and down a tthe time already... mind you it has been stable on frightening for about a year now...

IC:
Since Crookfur has an extreme respect for the enviroment anything biult inside our EEZ of 140km or our territorial water of 32km woudl have to comply with our strict enviromental controls (ie they are one big MPA, of coruse Crookfur kind of considers the entire northatlantic to be a MPA)

Official response: "Meh, you can do what you like. Just expect it to get removed once it's finished."

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

Sdaeriji to arbitrarily torpedo Axis Nova ships off the coast of Sdaeriji

The Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji will be exercising its rights under Section One, Part A of the "We Do Whatever We Feel Like" resolution recently passed (in Sdaeriji). For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

A) The Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji reserves the right to do whatever it feels like at any point in time, without recourse from foreign nations.

As these torpedoings fall under "whatever it feels like", you have no choice in the matter except to allow your ships to be sunk or have war declared upon you. Have a nice day. :D

Imperial Dominion State Department

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department


CASTLE AELOULAREA
Aeloulaera, Pearl Of TwiLight

Official Communication to Axis Nova State Department


VirginIncursion will not allow you to place missile silo's off of our coast.
Yes we are a member of the UN, however we have many powerful allies that
are not memebers. If you try to excercise your rights in our waters, your
installations will be destroyed by our military. If after we have destroyed
your installations, you wish to take this to the UN then we will be glad to
address it there. If the UN trys to force us to except your terms we will
resign from the UN then declare war on your country.


.... Oh .... Have a nice day!


Aeloulaera Castle
Aeloulaera, Pearl of
TwiLight

* Launch command this is General Caesar launch the first wave of fighter's *

* Aye Sir, we are starting Alpha Flight launch processes immediately *

Slowly a huge glittering building raises out of the ocean near the VI
coastline. Then twelve huge hangar bay doors open, within minutes of
the doors opening one thousand VF-8 Defender Destriods, one thousand
VF-9 Guardian's, one thousand VF-10 CyberKore Battle Meca, & one
thousand Golden Dragon Destriods roar out into the beautiful blue sky
to protect the VI coastline.

* Launch command this is General Caesar, starting now Alpha, Beta, &
Foxtrot Squadrons will conduct a twenty four hour, seven day a week
patrols of the VI coastline. Each squadrons daily patrol will last for eight hours during which time they are hereby given authority to use deadly force
against Axis Nova construction crews, military personnel or equipment.
General Caesar Out *

CASTLE AELOULAREA
Aeloulaera, Pearl Of TwiLight

Official Communication to Axis Nova State Department


VirginIncursion will not allow you to place missile silo's off of our coast.
Yes we are a member of the UN, however we have many powerful allies that
are not memebers. If you try to excercising your rights in our waters, your
installations will be destroyed by Kormanthoran Military Forces....

.... Oh .... Have a nice day!


EKHODAS StarBase

Earth Orbit, High over
Kormanthor / Cloaked


* Ekhodas to UKS Dark Raven II " Kormanthoran Super Star Destroyer "

* Dark Raven here Ekhodas *

* Dark Raven this is Admiral Montgonery Acott, I want you to move to
a extremely high orbit directly over the country of Axis Nova. Your orders
are to remain at these coordinates indifinately under General Quarters.
Because there is the possibility of attack from the ground because of
possible aggression from this country you will keep your shields up at all
times. Also make ready a full compliment of laser guided anti-matter /
matter orbital bombs, but, do not.... I repeat do not start bombing without
further communication, ie, orders from this office.

Ekhodas Out

The Republic of Mac Cumhail would like to thank the people of Axis Nova for perfectly illustrating the futility of compulsory internal compliance with an international regulatory body.

Sincerely
Sean Dempsey, Prime Minister

As there are plenty of UN nations out there, we can just save money by avoiding those nations who are being belligerent about this. :D

Kormathor: Screw off, I don't recognize Star Wars tech.

I left after they published a labor laws resolution that caused a nationstates-wide recession. It was the worst time for UN members economy.

It was a while ago though. you might not remember it.
Yeah I left the UN after that 40 hopur work week smacked my economy down two places. The UN is useless for an RP nation anyway.

IC: The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia wishes to announce the latest Imperial Construction Plan:

Mikitivity Underwater Construction Plan ~ Imperial Department of Irony

Preface

The Democratic Imperium first of all wishes to laugh at Mikitivity and all members of the UN who voted in favour of this ludicrous regulation.

Construction Plan

I A large dam is to be built around Mikitivity inside his waters. This dam will not protrude above sea level.

II Five huge pumps are to be placed at intervals along the dam.

III All water will be pumped out through the dam, leaving former Mikitivitian Waters as an inhospitible wasteland composed primarily of a muddy version of quick-sand.

IV The Imperial Government will issue an official statement of "Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: *points and laughs*"

Conlusion and Problems

The project is likely to cost upwards of $20bn. As such foreign assistance is needed. We are looking into the possibility of a UN grant for the project. This project will hopefully stand as a testament to the sheer pointless irony of man.

OOC: BTW, a note to the UN people in this thread announcing the intent to attack construction workers, etc... You have NO CHOICE but to let us do it or be declared as not complying and all the relevant game penalties that ensues. If you don't want us to do stuff like this, then go start a repeal motion for Law of the Sea. :D

Axis Nova

Axis Nova, if Nuclear Regulations passes, your silos will become illegal, since they will no longer count as underwater installations. You can build a silo, they can build a concrete cover. The original intention was for underwater cables, pipelines, sonar, not something out of the Doctor Who story 'Warriors of the Deep'.

Why bother with an underwater silo anyways, just to show you can?

Don't slander or attack Mikitivity, it wasn't his idea. It was mine. If you're going to do something silly, like build a 2000km long dam around Serconea, you'll get attacked by ignore cannons before you can say 'Start pumping'.

OOC: The hell with that. Anyway, it's a well-known fact that our ships are prone to accidentally firing their weapons for no good reason.

The Republic claims also 200 miles off the coast of Kaguya island as an exclusive economic zone and territorial waters. Any unauthorised incursion into these waters would be dealt with severely. However, constructions in international waters do no concern the Republic. We will monitor them only if these constructions pose a threat to the environment, or the Technocratic Republic of Anime Otakus itself.

Tai-shu Patrick McLanahan
Minister of Defence
Technocratic Republic of Anime-Otakus

and

Lacus Clyne, Ms
Minister for Foreign Affairs and the Law
Technocratic Republic of Anime-Otakus

Axis Nova, if Nuclear Regulations passes, your silos will become illegal, since they will no longer count as underwater installations. You can build a silo, they can build a concrete cover. The original intention was for underwater cables, pipelines, sonar, not something out of the Doctor Who story 'Warriors of the Deep'.

Why bother with an underwater silo anyways, just to show you can?

Don't slander or attack Mikitivity, it wasn't his idea. It was mine. If you're going to do something silly, like build a 2000km long dam around Serconea, you'll get attacked by ignore cannons before you can say 'Start pumping'.

I would note that Praetonia is doing the dam thing, not me. I'm mostly bugging Mikitivity since he appeared to be the major driving source behind the resolution. However, since you so kindly volunteered, I'll build the stuff slated for his waters in yours instead. And intent nothing, the proposal as worded allows me to do this :p

The Republic claims also 200 miles off the coast of Kaguya island as an exclusive economic zone and territorial waters.Actually, no, you don't. Since you are in the UN, and since you have not choice but to fully and completely obey all UN resolutions, your territorial waters extend to 20 kilometers, not 200 miles.

The UN is your chance to mold the rest of the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will also be affected by any resolutions that pass. (You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)

1. That all areas of sea more than 20 kilometres from an internationally recognised settled landmass or scientific research station are described as international waters. The UN may permit archipelagos to have the 20 kilometre limit start from the outside islands and allow waters inside the archipelago to be claimed by the nation who owns it.
2. That all 'international waters' shall be outside the sovereignty of any member nation and that no nation can claim to have sovereignty over them.

In short, you're screwed.

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The entire purpose of this thread is to draw attention to the Law of the Sea resolution so that it is repealed faster (in case you didn't know, repeal functionality was added).

As such, remove your garbage from my thread.

Thank Jove I'm landlocked.

Im so happy im not part of the UN. Any non-allied vessal to enter my waters will be shot on sight. Have a nice day.

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

OOC: I voted agaisnt it.

IC:
To: The government of Axis Nova
From: Lord JWolf (http://www.freewebs.com/wolfamerica/Lord_JWolf.JPG), Supreme Leader of the United States & a Jedi Knight

How hell are going to pay for this? Have fun bankrupting your nation.

IC: The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia wishes to announce the latest Imperial Construction Plan:

Mikitivity Underwater Construction Plan ~ Imperial Department of Irony

Preface

The Democratic Imperium first of all wishes to laugh at Mikitivity and all members of the UN who voted in favour of this ludicrous regulation.

Construction Plan

I A large dam is to be built around Mikitivity inside his waters. This dam will not protrude above sea level.

II Five huge pumps are to be placed at intervals along the dam.

III All water will be pumped out through the dam, leaving former Mikitivitian Waters as an inhospitible wasteland composed primarily of a muddy version of quick-sand.

IV The Imperial Government will issue an official statement of "Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: *points and laughs*"

Conlusion and Problems

The project is likely to cost upwards of $20bn. As such foreign assistance is needed. We are looking into the possibility of a UN grant for the project. This project will hopefully stand as a testament to the sheer pointless irony of man.

Secret IC:

To: The government of Praetonia
From: Lord JWolf (http://www.freewebs.com/wolfamerica/Lord_JWolf.JPG), Supreme Leader of the United States & a Jedi Knight

The United States of Wolf America will send 2 billion dollors for this project.

OOC: I voted agaisnt it.

IC:
To: The government of Axis Nova
From: Lord JWolf (http://www.freewebs.com/wolfamerica/Lord_JWolf.JPG), Supreme Leader of the United States & a Jedi Knight

How hell are going to pay for this? Have fun bankrupting your nation.

Axis Nova has an incredible economy. We can just cut back on defense spending a bit (bah, no more new airships this NS year), and easily be able to afford all this construction.

Axis Nova has an incredible economy. We can just cut back on defense spending a bit (bah, no more new airships this NS year), and easily be able to afford all this construction.

To: The government of Axis Nova
From: Lord JWolf (http://www.freewebs.com/wolfamerica/Lord_JWolf.JPG), Supreme Leader of the United States & a Jedi Knight

Ok you can built them but we are going to put 5" Wolfantium alloy (http://www.freewebs.com/wolfamerica/wolfantium.htm) dome on top of them.

As stated earlier, that is your perogative. ;)

OOC: BTW, a note to the UN people in this thread announcing the intent to attack construction workers, etc... You have NO CHOICE but to let us do it or be declared as not complying and all the relevant game penalties that ensues. If you don't want us to do stuff like this, then go start a repeal motion for Law of the Sea. :D

Axis Nova

ooc: For the record, I'm not in the UN. So UN resolutions don't mean dick to me. I just wanted to jump at the chance to be a jerk.

I guess you have a lot of money for this many United Nations has 34,715 member nations so you even put a fingure on my water i will kill you even know i am leaving the UN.
STUPID not as an insult! :)

Comminque to the International Community.

Any foreign underwater military silos, bases, or infrastructure built in Sharina waters will be immediately seized or destroyed. We will also disregard international waters and laws if we discover underwater military installations within 200 miles of Sharina. We will never allow any military or WMD's built on our doorstep.

We will not back down from this, and we will never join the United Nations as a result of their utter stupidity and immature attitudes.

Good day,
President Rand Veristek

Axis Nova, if Nuclear Regulations passes, your silos will become illegal, since they will no longer count as underwater installations. You can build a silo, they can build a concrete cover. The original intention was for underwater cables, pipelines, sonar, not something out of the Doctor Who story 'Warriors of the Deep'.

Why bother with an underwater silo anyways, just to show you can?

Don't slander or attack Mikitivity, it wasn't his idea. It was mine. If you're going to do something silly, like build a 2000km long dam around Serconea, you'll get attacked by ignore cannons before you can say 'Start pumping'.
OOC: It was mostly just satire, like this entire thread. Still I don't see what grounds you have to ignore it. It's a perfectly UN legal move and the construction wont put me back that much.

I may be in the UN, but I am against this action of Axis Nova.

I believe I speak for many nations here when I say that I don't feel comfatable having 20 foreign missile silo's next my nation.

If one has an accident, your well and truely doomed. And if your nation survives the blast, the local marine life won't.

The Stevid government would be happy to allow at least two Axis Nova SSBNs into our waters in place of the silo's. But the subs will monitered closely by the RN of Stevid.

Stevid>Since you have expressed concerns, I will build an underwater monitoring station instead to track the movements of your ships. :)

Sharina: Read Hack's post earlier in the thread. You have no choice in the matter unless, of course, you leave the UN (in which case I have no interest in your waters anymore)

Or you could vote to repeal Law of the Sea.

Comminque to the International Community.

Any foreign underwater military silos, bases, or infrastructure built in Sharina waters will be immediately seized or destroyed. We will also disregard international waters and laws if we discover underwater military installations within 200 miles of Sharina. We will never allow any military or WMD's built on our doorstep.

We will not back down from this, and we will never join the United Nations as a result of their utter stupidity and immature attitudes.

Good day,
President Rand Veristek


There you have it. I'm not a UN member, but I repeat my previous statement. Any foreign military underwater bases or silos will be destroyed or seized within Sharina sovereign waters.

OOC: He actually stated specifically that it would only happen to UN member nations, as only UN member nations are bound by the law. Therefore your typing a post in huge font then yourself quoting and commenting on it was completely pointless and irrelevant.

I am aware that this resolution only applies to the UN, but I'm merely warning other nations (in UN and not in UN) not to get any "ideas" of building underwater stuff in Sharina territorial waters without express permission of Sharina.

In addition, I was answering Axis Nova's question.

OOC: Oh right ok. I would just let him anyway. Then you can build a massive concrete dome over it and laugh at how much money he's wasted.

Tenarius is an inland nation, and is thus does not suffer from this. However, we strongly suggest you reconsider, you will be bankrupting your economy and harming the United Nations as a whole with this measure.

From: Stefane, Marian Minister of Foreign Affairs
To: Ambassadors of Axis Nova

We urge you, and all nuclear nations, to disarm. We are prepared to intercept your construction teams and neutralize the threat of attack on our nation.

Blessings be upon you.

Imperial Seal of Archbishop Maximillian, Pontiff of Mariandyne

OOC: BTW, a note to the UN people in this thread announcing the intent to attack construction workers, etc... You have NO CHOICE but to let us do it or be declared as not complying and all the relevant game penalties that ensues. If you don't want us to do stuff like this, then go start a repeal motion for Law of the Sea. :D

Axis Nova

You just _ucked up

Wrong, Kormanthor.

Go read the post by Hack on Page 1 of this thread.

To the government of Axis Nova
From Ambassador Midian of Neo Cannen
The Prime Nomad/Guardien of Neo Cannen is extremely insulted by the level of arragonce that you have displayed against the UN. Though this may be a technicality in the laws, you are using it for ends of world destruction. Although Neo Cannen is a desert land locked nation, we implore you to discontinue construction of these weapons and we are currently lobbying the UN to stop you. Should you continue whilst the new resolution is in action, you cannot expect there to be no retaliation.

You just _ucked up


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VirginIncursion is not a member of the UN.

OCC: Just as I said I would do I went to the United Nations to Quit and
found out that I am not considered a member anymore. Sense I know
longer have to consider the UN I will now follow through on the second
half of my promise. And sense you say you don't recognize star wars tech
I will use my own.

ICC:

Castle AELOULAREA
Aeloularea, The Pearl of Twilight

General Caesar I am calling an emergency meeting of Armed Forces
division heads immediately.

Right Away Queen Casiopia

( Ten minutes later )

Ladies & Gentlemen I have called this emergency meeting to deal
with the country called Axis Nova. As you know he is attempting to build
Nuclear Misslie Silo's off of every UN members coastline. Until moments ago
we was a member of the UN, as of this moment we are no longer a member.
We will not support an Organization that makes irresponsible resolutions
that open their member nations to the terroristic threat of an unstable leader
of one piss ant country. Therefore we are naming Axis Nova a terrorist
nation and Declaring War on them. I am also immediately raising our our
military to DefCon One. Further I am authorizing the use of DEADLY Force
against Axis Nova. Finally, I have contacted Kormanthor to ask King Matthew
for his countries assistance in this emergency and have his guaruntee of
financial & military assistance to us. Ladies & Gentleman you are dismissed.

***************************************************

* General Miller to Fort Incursion Command, a state of war now exists between VirginIncursion & Axis Nova. General Caesar & Admiral Mendenhall
are arranging transport of ground units to Axis Nova. You are ordered to
activate all ground units for immediate military response against Axis Nova.
General Miller Out *

( Immediately after General Millers message all on duty personnel
start boarding their assigned naval unit by way of mater/energy transporters.
While reserved units are activated for later deployment. )

* This Admiral Mendenhall to all ocean going battle groups a state
of war now exists between VirginIncursion & Axis Nova. Because of this
all fleets except the 3rd,7th & 12th will immediately procede to Axis Nova
Waters with authorization to use deadly force against the Axis Nova Navy
, Merchant Marine, Coast Guard, or any other allied force of Axis Nova.
The 3rd , 7th & 12th along with the Coast Guard will take up the
Defense of VI's coastline. Mendenhall Out

( Immediately after this communication twelve entire battle
groups go to flank speed on course for Axis Nova, thanks to Kormanthor's
Ekhodas StarBase. )

* This is General Caesar to launch command a state
of war now exists between VirginIncursion & Axis Nova. Recall the on duty starfighters, refuel them, & arm them with anti-matter/matter missiles & bombs. As soon as they are ready launch Alpha, Beta, Charlie, Delta, & Foxtrot Squadrons. They are to procede to the Capital City of Axis Nova to begin bombing sorties. Contact Ekhodas StarBase for coordinates. Caesar Out *

( Minutes after Caesars message, a huge building rises out of the depths
somewhere within VirginIncursion Waters, twelve watertight hangar bay doors
open to the fresh sea air. Then magnetic catapults start launching the five
thousand starfighter squadron that will make up the first wave attack on
Axis Nova. Soon the five thousand craft squadron of VF-7's, 8's, 9's and 11's are streaking towards Axis Nova )

OOC:Axis Nova? Arnt you the guy who tried too build that invisible tank which couldnt work because you would be able to see it on IR?

OOC: And you'd be able to hear it, and they would crash into each other and other bad things. Anyway n00b alert.

EDIT: On starwars guy over there.

Stevid>Since you have expressed concerns, I will build an underwater monitoring station instead to track the movements of your ships. :)

Sharina: Read Hack's post earlier in the thread. You have no choice in the matter unless, of course, you leave the UN (in which case I have no interest in your waters anymore)

Or you could vote to repeal Law of the Sea.



Castle AELOULAREA
Aeloularea, Pearl Of TwiLight
Queen Casiopia

* Regardless of whether you are interested in waters of non-UN
countries or not I believe you are in need of a attitude ajustment. I don't
like countries that use terrorist methods against any country. You have been
named as terrorist by VI. If you don't agree to immediately stop all construction, and leave the silo sites open to be claimed by the country that
it was to threaten I will effectively close all your ports indefinately as my first step in my war effort against you.
Signed

Queen Casiopia Of VirginIncursion

OOC: And you'd be able to hear it, and they would crash into each other and other bad things. Anyway n00b alert.

EDIT: On starwars guy over there.


OCC: NOOB Alert, You are a funny guy, I am much older then you so what does that make you idiot. Your probly just a puppet nation of Axis Nova
anyway.

OCC: NOOB Alert, You are a funny guy, I am much older then you so what does that make you idiot. Your probly just a puppet nation of Axis Nova
anyway.
Right... a nation with 2,200+ posts is a puppet, now is it? The word 'n00b' does not refer to a new nation, but one that isn't particularly good at RPing. It is those kind of 'n00bish' qualities you are demostrating by stating, and I quote, "Recall the on duty starfighters, refuel them, & arm them with anti-matter/matter missiles & bombs." when fighting a modern tech nation. Plus, I can actually spell, so don't call me an idiot.

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

OCC: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. The post
above isn't a shining example of great rping either. I think that the CONTENT
of VI's message should be your most pressing concern.
Stop making excuses, you know that the UN never meant that
resolution to be used in this way. You are the aggressor here, not any of
the nations that you are attempting to scare. Kormanthor & VI have been
allies for a very long time. Therefore Kormanthor will defend it's ally against
your aggression. Are you ready?

Castle AELOULAREA
Aeloularea, Pearl Of TwiLight
Queen Casiopia

* Regardless of whether you are interested in waters of non-UN
countries or not I believe you are in need of a attitude ajustment. I don't
like countries that use terrorist methods against any country. You have been
named as terrorist by VI. If you don't agree to immediately stop all construction, and leave the silo sites open to be claimed by the country that
it was to threaten I will effectively close all your ports indefinately as my first step in my war effort against you.
Signed

Queen Casiopia Of VirginIncursion

General frequency message from the Imperial capital of Sdaeriji


TO: Queen Casiopia, VirginIncursion
FROM: Chairman Ilsuo Santite, Sdaeriji
RE: Threats levelled against Axis Nova


Greetings from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. This is a warning to the nation of VirginIncursion, and to any other nations with similar plans to the nation of VirginIncursion. Any military action against the nation of Axis Nova, excepting the Imperial Dominion itself, will be wholly condemned by Sdaeriji and will result in severe economic and political sanctions, and possibly retaliation. We will not stand and watch nations such as VirginIncursion violate the sovereignty of a nation such as Axis Nova simply because they do not approve of the lawful activities of said nation. The arrogance displayed by the leaders of VirginIncursion is quite appalling. The actions of Axis Nova are well within international guidelines laid down by the United Nations, and an attack based on a distaste for those activities is totally unjustified and complete unacceptable. I repeat, any military action taken by VirginIncursion or similarly-minded nations against Axis Nova simply for disapproving of Axis Nova's lawful endeavors will be met with the strictest punishment from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji


Chairman Ilsuo Santite
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji

OCC: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. The post
above isn't a shining example of great rping either. I think that the CONTENT
of VI's message should be your most pressing concern.
Stop making excuses, you know that the UN never meant that
resolution to be used in this way. You are the aggressor here, not any of
the nations that you are attempting to scare. Kormanthor & VI have been
allies for a very long time. Therefore Kormanthor will defend it's ally against
your aggression. Are you ready?
OOC: I am, am I? Even though I haven't actually done anything? Although the UN was not meant to be used in that way, it is legal, and if you try to stop him them you are the agressor. I think that this thread was more of an attempt to highlight the stupidity of the resolution than actually threaten UN nations or make a good RP. He said that he wouldn't even put any missiles in the siloes. Also, Kormanthor, it seems odd that you have exactly the same text formatting and writing style of VirginWhatsit and you defend him? Anyway I have no wish to fill up this thread with more OOC rubbish, so I will be leaving now. Starwars Axis Nova to death as much as you want, but don't blame me when you get IGNOREd.

EDIT: What do you mean by saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks" and quote that post. I didn't post it. I am not Axis Nova

OOC: I am, am I? Even though I haven't actually done anything? Although the UN was not meant to be used in that way, it is legal, and if you try to stop him them you are the agressor. I think that this thread was more of an attempt to highlight the stupidity of the resolution than actually threaten UN nations or make a good RP. He said that he wouldn't even put any missiles in the siloes. Also, Kormanthor, it seems odd that you have exactly the same text formatting and writing style of VirginWhatsit and you defend him? Anyway I have no wish to fill up this thread with more OOC rubbish, so I will be leaving now. Starwars Axis Nova to death as much as you want, but don't blame me when you get IGNOREd.

EDIT: What do you mean by saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks" and quote that post. I didn't post it. I am not Axis Nova



OCC: I assumed you were a puppet of Axis Nova. Sorry about that
but you where taking up for a country that is trying to use a so called
legal resolution to terrorize other nations.

General frequency message from the Imperial capital of Sdaeriji


TO: Queen Casiopia, VirginIncursion
FROM: Chairman Ilsuo Santite, Sdaeriji
RE: Threats levelled against Axis Nova


Greetings from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji. This is a warning to the nation of VirginIncursion, and to any other nations with similar plans to the nation of VirginIncursion. Any military action against the nation of Axis Nova, excepting the Imperial Dominion itself, will be wholly condemned by Sdaeriji and will result in severe economic and political sanctions, and possibly retaliation. We will not stand and watch nations such as VirginIncursion violate the sovereignty of a nation such as Axis Nova simply because they do not approve of the lawful activities of said nation. The arrogance displayed by the leaders of VirginIncursion is quite appalling. The actions of Axis Nova are well within international guidelines laid down by the United Nations, and an attack based on a distaste for those activities is totally unjustified and complete unacceptable. I repeat, any military action taken by VirginIncursion or similarly-minded nations against Axis Nova simply for disapproving of Axis Nova's lawful endeavors will be met with the strictest punishment from the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji


Chairman Ilsuo Santite
Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji


Castle Essembra
City Of Essembra
Capital City Of
Kormanthor

Communication to the Imperial Dominion of Sdaeriji

Chairman Ilsuo Santite just because an action is legal under UN Law that
doesn't make it right.
Axis Nova is trying to use the UN's resolution in a way that it wasn't meant to be used. This effectively proves Axis Nova's lack of good morals, not to mention good international manners.
Do not talk to us about placing severe economic and political sanctions against this country & our allies, we have no trade relations with you. Further we do not need trade from other nations to be able to support ourselves.
We find the arrogance displayed by you & your country criminal in the
extreme. You seem hell bent on supporting a gang of international terrorist
trying to misuse UN Law for their own gain.
Beyond that we aren't members of the United Nations, so their
resolutions are meaningless whether in our waters or international waters.We
are members of an intergalactic organization similiar to the UN. This means
that if you retal against us for standing up to Axis Nova, then you could face
some pretty grim reprocussions yourself.
However, as we have always been a peace loving country we will ask you
nicely to not get involved in matters that are no concern of yours.

Signed

King Matthew Of Kormanthor

Axis Nova, I will mine and blow up your underwater silos if you put them in Jackdonian waters!

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department
If you do any of that they will be destroyed and the crew killed.
-Nikolaos the Great

Jonothana does not allow foreign nuclear installations in its waters. Therefore we will stop any attempts.

a bunch of crap

Away with your futuretech. I've made it abundantly clear that if you're not in the UN I have no business with you.

Axis Nova, I will mine and blow up your underwater silos if you put them in Jackdonian waters!


Not if you're in the UN, you won't.

If you do any of that they will be destroyed and the crew killed.
-Nikolaos the Great


Again, not if you're in the UN, they won't.

Jonothana does not allow foreign nuclear installations in its waters. Therefore we will stop any attempts.


If you're in the UN, you have no choice in the matter, as Hack posted earlier in this thread.

I've just realised that this is GODMODDING.

You don't have enough money to build, mantain, man and equip these silos.

OOC: I've just read the actual resolution, and it doesn't give you the right to build anything in his territorial waters. Just outside them, maybe (and equally threatening) but not inside them.

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department


!f any of your construction crews come within 150 miles of our coast line they will be atacked and destroyrd imeaditly with out warning!!!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!!
~Bethuy State Department~

Who said I was maintaining, manning, and equipping them?

I just said I was building them. And a concrete tube underwater is hardly terribly expensive, especially for me.

BTW, if I was serious about this, I already came up with a design for a one-shot disposeable nuclear cruise missile launcher that I could deploy just by tossing off the back of a boat or dropped into the water from a plane.

But since this is a political maneuver to draw attention to a particular UN resolution I want repealed, I just need to say I'm building the silos, and watch people flock to the thread. The more hear about the resolution, the better. I don't even need to actually build that many-- long before I could ever finish even 10% of the project, people would repeal the resolution, thus letting me can the rest and save money.

Though I must admit that the amusement I'm getting from the two LOL STAR WARS LOL nations threatening me here is a nice bonus.

OOC: I've just read the actual resolution, and it doesn't give you the right to build anything in his territorial waters. Just outside them, maybe (and equally threatening) but not inside them.
The I guess Greece is safe but we will still destroy all missile silos in the seas that are close by to Greece and its territories.
-Nikolaos the Great

Well he can still build them 20km out which really isn't very much. It's still rather worrying that the UN would let this pass.

Check section 1, clause D. I have it quoted in the first post in this thread for convenience.

I'm sticking it in through the "right to build underwater installations" clause, which is fortunately for me vaguely defined.

Edit: BTW, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Nothing's stopping you other UN members from doing the same kind of thing I am, after all.

No it says that that applys only to "in or above international waters", referring to international waters and the airspace above it.

But since this is a political maneuver to draw attention to a particular UN resolution I want repealed, I just need to say I'm building the silos, and watch people flock to the thread. The more hear about the resolution, the better. I don't even need to actually build that many-- long before I could ever finish even 10% of the project, people would repeal the resolution, thus letting me can the rest and save money.




UN Resoulutions cannot be repealed. Therefore, this exercise is pointless. If you don't like this resoulution, LEAVE THE UN!

Also, as of yet no silos have been build anywhere near Jonothana, but should they be, the Jonothanian navy will remove them.

UN Resoulutions cannot be repealed. Therefore, this exercise is pointless. If you don't like this resoulution, LEAVE THE UN!

Also, as of yet no silos have been build anywhere near Jonothana, but should they be, the Jonothanian navy will remove them.

You need to read the news page some more. Repeal functionality was added.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_repeal/repealid=73

Oh. Can you direct me to the where you propose the repeal of this resoulution?

As regional Deligate and founder of Milliways, I regret to inform Axis Nova, That the coast lines of all the nations within the Region of Milliways, has been diclared a Maritime Preservation Zone. Therefor, we can take action against building of these so called underwater silos along our coast.

Ministry of Levenson
Head of Milliways Region
Deligate to UN

There you go. Of course this means you can't fish there or anything either...

Sorry, I did not make my self clear.

I trust you have proposed for the repeal of this resoulution, could I please be given the page where I can tell our UN delegate to vote?

There you go. Of course this means you can't fish there or anything either...

ITD also declared all of its territorial waters as maritime preservation zones, with the clause that ITD ships and ally ships may sail and fish them. No foreign nation, unless permitted by ITD, may enter them, fish them, build in them etc...

All of Jonothanas waters are now MPZs, with clauses allowing Jono. and allied vessels and pipelines on it. Also there is a clause stating no strutures may be build without permission, and Nuclear stuctures are banned.

Sorry, I did not make my self clear.

I trust you have proposed for the repeal of this resoulution, could I please be given the page where I can tell our UN delegate to vote?


http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_repeal/repealid=73

Holy Paradise also has made every coast a maritime preservation zone. Only HP and allies can build in it.

Well,Axis Nova I have executed already 20 of the workers and hung them on scaffolding in the sea!

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=UN_repeal/repealid=73

No, that is where you propose it, not where you vote for it to be repealed.

Well,Axis Nova I have executed already 20 of the workers and hung them on scaffolding in the sea!The Queendom of the Zombie Overlords offers to zombify the deceased workers so that Axis Nova isn't deprived of members of its work force. In exchange, we ask that any installations you choose to build off our coastline aren't military in nature.[/joke]

We deplore this rash act of aggression. If UN member states don't approve of Axis Nova's entirely legal actions, they should seek a political resolution through proper channels before taking military action.

While the recent acts of Axis Nova are contrary to the spirit of the law, they do not violate it. The best way to deal with this issue is to repeal the badly written and poorly concieved Law of the Seas act. We will fully support this repeal once it is proposed.

edit: It also seems that the based on the Law of the Seas act, Maritime Preservation Zones are to be designated by a UN Commission, not individual member nations.
4. That a UN Commission be established to determine areas of outstanding marine beauty or high ecological sensitivity and designate them Maritime Preservation Zones.

All of Jonothanas waters are now MPZs, with clauses allowing Jono. and allied vessels and pipelines on it. Also there is a clause stating no strutures may be build without permission, and Nuclear stuctures are banned.
OOC: Due to the wording of the resolution, you aren't allowed to do that. Either you declare it a MPZ and then you can't build on or use (ie for fishing) the water, or he can build his siloes. However, also due to the wording, he is only a allowed to build in international waters, which is defined as being 20km or more from the coast. Of course you can always do this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/Plan.gif

The law has been quickly repealed and we are preparing to pour concrete into any silo near Jono.

It's been repealed already?

*checks UN*

I am prepared to bomb any construction crew attempting to build a silo near my waters.

I am prepared to bomb any construction crew attempting to build a silo near my waters.

Any such action would call down the wrath of the McLeodians upon you.

Why? This is a violation to the security of my country!

Why? This is a violation to the security of my country!

Unfortunately fella, the building is allowed by international law until such time as said law is repealed. He's also in international waters, which means he has not committed any acts of war against you. Bombing construction crews in international waters would be an act of war. And since AN is considered a friendly nation, you'd have me to deal with if you bombed him. Don't like it? Leave the UN.

Jonothana has repealed the MPZ law. Now we are filling any silos will lotsa concrete.

OOC: Sorry about the off-topicness of this, but McLeaod03, my three reliable sources show that you are not a member of NATO but have just tried to join the forums. Correct me if I am wrong.

OOC: Jonothana you aren't allowed to repeal UN regulations yourself. Read Hack's post on page 1. Either you accept it and hope the law is repealed or you leave the UN (to be honest I'd pick the second option, and not just because of this).

*sigh*

I have repealed a law making all Jonothanian waters MPZs. I have not violated the law atall. However I am making a pledge for the resoulution to be scraped so as to stop this happening for real. (if you know what I mean)

Jonothana has repealed the MPZ law. Now we are filling any silos will lotsa concrete.

OOC: Sorry about the off-topicness of this, but McLeaod03, my three reliable sources show that you are not a member of NATO but have just tried to join the forums. Correct me if I am wrong.

Its McLeod03. Read the name. Not hard. And yes, I am a member of NATO. Euroslavia posted it himself:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357094&page=2&pp=15&highlight=McLeod03

About two-thirds of the way down. In red. And i'm still waiting for my account to be verified, yes.

OOC: Oh right I see.

Well,Axis Nova I have executed already 20 of the workers and hung them on scaffolding in the sea!

Hmm... Ah, yes. As I recall you sent one of your antiquated rustbuckets to harrass my people, and it was sent to the bottom by the gunship we had guarding the site.

Of note, all our territorial waters are "MAritime Preservation Zones" owing to the volatility and sensitivity of Antarctican species. Given the presence of scientific research teams on our oil and other oceanic platforms, passage of this law has extended our territorial waters to 400nm.

At this time, we have before the UN additional paperwork showing our plan of expansion to 1200nm, and application as "Maritime Preservation Zone" all waters within that sphere due to conditions.

Therefore, as your attempt would be a violation, our fleet will sink anything attempting to build even an empty silo.

Sultan Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva.

OOC: Axis, I love your sense of the absurd. :p

Of note, all our territorial waters are "MAritime Preservation Zones" owing to the volatility and sensitivity of Antarctican species. Given the presence of scientific research teams on our oil and other oceanic platforms, passage of this law has extended our territorial waters to 400nm.

At this time, we have before the UN additional paperwork showing our plan of expansion to 1200nm, and application as "Maritime Preservation Zone" all waters within that sphere due to conditions.

Therefore, as your attempt would be a violation, our fleet will sink anything attempting to build even an empty silo.

Sultan Sinjin Lefkowitz al-Din, Sultan and State of Vastiva.

OOC: Axis, I love your sense of the absurd. :p

OOC: Someone else earlier in the thread tried expanding their boundaries, but until that resolution gets repealed you're stuck with 20. Sorry :(

We give in, or if we don't, we're toast. Why give in? I see some of you have taken action. Take action, or be like jello and just soak it all in and become numb to it all!! :mp5: :eek:

OOC: Someone else earlier in the thread tried expanding their boundaries, but until that resolution gets repealed you're stuck with 20. Sorry :(

Nice try but read the Resolution:


1. That all areas of sea more than 20 kilometres from an internationally recognised settled landmass or scientific research station are described as international waters.


and


3. That all nations shall have in or above international waters, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone:
a) Freedom to fish in designated fishing areas, subject to UN quotas.
b) Freedom to fly
c) Freedom of navigation
d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations


Each and every platform has been bureaucratically accepted as a scientific research station, with many more to come AND all Antarctican waters are defined as Maritime Preservation Zones, owing to the fragility of the environment in which they are.

Hence, legit via flood of platforms and flood of paperwork to the UN.

If you can't live with the bureacracy, choke it from inside.

A joint announcement was made today by the Parliament, Prime Minister and King:

"The construction of missile silos in the waters around Callisdrun will not be allowed. If they are built, one or more of the following consequences may occur... We may simply appropriate the missile silos for our own use... we may order their removal... we may simply destroy them ourselves... or we may use legal maneouvering to tax them to high heaven. If necessary, we will declare all underwater sites that silos could be built on to be 'maritime preservation zones.' Or we may simply respond by testing our first nuclear weapons twenty kilometers from your coastline."

This was seen as a fairly typical statement from the government, as they seem to like to be unpredictable in foreign affairs.

I believe that the construction of nuclear missile silos off the coasts of UN nations violates the many UN resolutions banning weapons of mass destruction and preventing their proliferation. If you (Axis Nova) are not in the UN, I don't have to deal with you via the UN and can therefore, quite easily and without much trouble diplomatically, come in and blow them up. Its especially easy since the waters off my coast are seething with attack submarines.

Kormanthor to build anti-matter/matter missile silos off the coasts of Axis Nova

*********************************************************
Kormanthor will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. ( Original Author is Axis Nova ) :)

Kormanthor State Department *** Have a nice day Axis Nova

Kormanthor to build anti-matter/matter missile silos off the coasts of Axis Nova

*********************************************************
Kormanthor will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day Axis Nova

Kormanthor State Department


VirginIncursion to build 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts
storage facilites off the coasts of Axis Nova.

Each storage facility is in the territorial waters of a UN nation, thanks to Law of the Sea.

And on top of that, we're selling space in each site for any nation that wishes to deposit their 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts.

Each facility will consist of an array of hexagon-shaped concrete storage cells, each capable of holding 100 tons of waste. The parts will be airlifted in and dropped into the water, then assembled by our workers. Containment breach prevention measures will be non-existant so that we may cut costs-- we'll just hope no one drops a depth charge or unseals the caps.

While this may at first glance appear to violate "Oceanic Waste Dumping", we believe this applies to just dumping the waste overboard in barrels and not putting it in a secure storage facility such as we are constructing. As "Oceanic Waste Dumping" does not specify, we shall insist on the above definition as the proper one if pressed. ( Original Author Axis Nova )

Queen Casiopia Of VirginIncursion

VirginIncursion to build 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts
storage facilites off the coasts of Axis Nova.

Each storage facility is in the territorial waters of a UN nation, thanks to Law of the Sea.

And on top of that, we're selling space in each site for any nation that wishes to deposit their 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts.

Each facility will consist of an array of hexagon-shaped concrete storage cells, each capable of holding 100 tons of waste. The parts will be airlifted in and dropped into the water, then assembled by our workers. Containment breach prevention measures will be non-existant so that we may cut costs-- we'll just hope no one drops a depth charge or unseals the caps.

While this may at first glance appear to violate "Oceanic Waste Dumping", we believe this applies to just dumping the waste overboard in barrels and not putting it in a secure storage facility such as we are constructing. As "Oceanic Waste Dumping" does not specify, we shall insist on the above definition as the proper one if pressed. ( Original Author Axis Nova )

Queen Casiopia Of VirginIncursion


VIRGININCURSION HAS CALLED HOME HER MILITARY IN FAVOR OF A
COLD WAR WITH Axis Nova. :) Have a Nice Day Axis Nova!!! ;)

Im in the UN..but my country is landlocked...the only possible way to build way to build underwater silos is to build them in the Nephres River and the Cathin Lake (about 40km in radius) as such these features are within our borders it is impossible.

So we will back Axis Nova...((OOC:just because im to tired and not really paying attention to what is happening. Well night everyone, ill see ya sometime soon)), also good luck with them silos.

VI please just stop. AN is a modern tech nation so your star wars crap wont do anything to him, plus he isn't in the UN (as far as Im aware) so the resolution doesn't apply to him and he can destroy your random future tech rubbish we he ignores anyway. Also why is a Cold War threatening? You just don't make sense. Anyway before this decends into flaming Im going to leave this thread. Bye.

I believe that the construction of nuclear missile silos off the coasts of UN nations violates the many UN resolutions banning weapons of mass destruction and preventing their proliferation. If you (Axis Nova) are not in the UN, I don't have to deal with you via the UN and can therefore, quite easily and without much trouble diplomatically, come in and blow them up. Its especially easy since the waters off my coast are seething with attack submarines.

I am in fact in the UN, and as of yet there's no resolution that bans nukes. Not even the enviro-whacks could get one of THOSE passed.

QUOTE=Kormanthor]Kormanthor to build anti-matter/matter missile silos off the coasts of Axis Nova[/quote]

Landlocked nation, no coasts. The only port city we have is jointly administered by AN and Sileetris. And btw, your matter/antimatter tech is ignored :)

VirginIncursion: Reference above statement. Also, we see no point to having a cold war with someone we could easily crush if we wanted to.

;)

The nation of the Impulse would like to point out, as they did in reference to the underwater containment facilities, that the Law of the Sea only applies to international waters, as can be clearly seen in it's wording. Thus, not only Axis Nova's plans, but also the plans of other nations who are trying to "fight back" by constructing similar structures in Axis Nova's territorial waters, are all void.

In the interest of making this clear, I have quoted the relevant Law of the Sea passages and added emphasis to make it even more clear:
3. That all nations shall have in or above international waters, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone:
d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

Thank you for your time, and have a nice day.

^^

...

whoa, he's right.

In other news, everyone in this thread including me just got pwned. :(

I thought that was implied.

That has always been, and will always be.

I will lobby for the repeal of The Law of The Sea and the proposal of a revised one.

AN I said that a while back but people ignored me *sobs* j/k anyway you can still build siloes 20km out (which is international waters as defined by the law) which is still pretty damn close.

Bump

VI please just stop. AN is a modern tech nation so your star wars crap wont do anything to him, plus he isn't in the UN (as far as Im aware) so the resolution doesn't apply to him and he can destroy your random future tech rubbish we he ignores anyway. Also why is a Cold War threatening? You just don't make sense. Anyway before this decends into flaming Im going to leave this thread. Bye. ( quote / Praetonia )


VIRGININCURSION HAS CALLED HOME HER MILITARY IN FAVOR OF A
COLD WAR WITH Axis Nova. Have a Nice Day Axis Nova!!!

VirginIncursion to build 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts
storage facilites off the coasts of Axis Nova.

Each storage facility is in the territorial waters of a UN nation, thanks to Law of the Sea.

And on top of that, we're selling space in each site for any nation that wishes to deposit their 'undesireable' industrial and nuclear byproducts.

Each facility will consist of an array of hexagon-shaped concrete storage cells, each capable of holding 100 tons of waste. The parts will be airlifted in and dropped into the water, then assembled by our workers. Containment breach prevention measures will be non-existant so that we may cut costs-- we'll just hope no one drops a depth charge or unseals the caps.

While this may at first glance appear to violate "Oceanic Waste Dumping", we believe this applies to just dumping the waste overboard in barrels and not putting it in a secure storage facility such as we are constructing. As "Oceanic Waste Dumping" does not specify, we shall insist on the above definition as the proper one if pressed. ( Original Author Axis Nova )

Queen Casiopia Of VirginIncursion


OCC: We have decided to take care of this problem another way Praetonia
so just back off.

I am in fact in the UN, and as of yet there's no resolution that bans nukes. Not even the enviro-whacks could get one of THOSE passed.

QUOTE=Kormanthor]Kormanthor to build anti-matter/matter missile silos off the coasts of Axis Nova

Landlocked nation, no coasts. The only port city we have is jointly administered by AN and Sileetris. And btw, your matter/antimatter tech is ignored :)

VirginIncursion: Reference above statement. Also, we see no point to having a cold war with someone we could easily crush if we wanted to.

;)[/QUOTE]


That sounds like a threat Axis, want to test the theory Mr.BadAss. I'm
laughing at your superiority! :)

OOC: There you have it, proof that whatisname is Virginthingy.

I believe this issue is dead. Several of us were mistaken on the wording of the resolution. Please stop milking this thread.

I still hope the resolution is repealed.

>Axis Nova

From the First Sea Lord of the Royal Navy of Stevid...

On behalf of the Government of Stevid, this country hereby objects to the underwater base proposed to be built by Axis Nova. The Base is suposed to track Stevid Naval vessels within it's given radar and sonar range.
The Stevid Navy is a huge and proud navy. This incrusion into the general safty of the ship under my command is greatly commprimised.
I can not stress enough the great deel of pressure that will be mounted on the Navy if the consruction of this base goes ahead.
If other nations (whether they are in the UN or not) build bases in another nation's waters to "spy" on their ships could results in inquries and possible conflict.

Both Stevid and Axis Nova are proud nations if a good diplomatic history. I for one am not going to be the one who is going to the reckless option of attacking a fellow nation.

So I ask you, Axis Nova, not to build an underwater base in our waters. In the past I did state that we could reach a commprimise around the silo's by allowing at least two SSBN submarines into Stevid waters.

I still urge you to take this option instead of silo's or a spy ops base.

If you still continue to build a base in our waters, it will be destroyed. I am trying to grant you as much as I possibly can without violating the UN resolution.

I'm sure we can reach I comprimise.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully

Admiral Sir Alan West
First Sea Lord and Representative of the Royal Stevid Navy

OOC: There you have it, proof that whatisname is Virginthingy.

OCC; Kormanthor is my ally, allies defend each other jerk. I also
buy most of my modern & future tech from him so I have the same equipment he does. Axis Nova is the trouble maker that started this thread. We are only attempting to protect our countries from Axis Nova's aggression.

Axis Nova.

As the Head of the TBA Alliance I warn you now.

If any of your silos Are built around Any TBA member You will be comiting an act of war against an alliance.

In other news that resolution sucks it means half my underwater cities are in internation waters.

Does anybody actually read the last page!

He's stopped building them!

Just how many nukes are we talking about here? Looking at the contents of this thread, including the anti-matter/matter warheads, in the event of a full blown thermonuclear war how long would it take before the entire planet became inhospitable to all life due to the climate changing effects and radiation caused by the weapons? Five minutes?

Inhospitable? I was starting to think along the lines of the planet being little more than a few specks of dust in the galaxy. I'm just hoping the utter mis-comprehension of a really bad UN resolution means that no one is stockpiling now.


High Overlord X of the Xarlantine Empire

Will anybody ACTUALLY READ THE THREAD.

It has been resolved!

There you go. Of course this means you can't fish there or anything either...

We dont fish there. So there is no problem is there?

OCC: This isn't the only thread where Axis Nova is trying to start
trouble using this UN Resolution. The UN is supposed to
make rules that do good things. They need to really start
thinking things through before they make a rule that can
be MIS-USED like this one as been.

OOC: This thread is over, please stop bumping it. I'm going to ask the mods to lock it.

OOC: BUMP FOR HILARITY! :D

IC: As the resolution that allows Axis Nova to do this is about to be repealed, we shall soon be ceasing the funding of our Sea Pavement program. Those UN nations affected by this are advised to have a nice day ;)

Wow, I remember this thread.

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

Ha ha ha, thats a pretty good loop-hole ya got.

funniest thing I've seen in awhile. Surely attracted a lot of n00bs. And that whole, waste site dealie... why not just build a giant bunker over it?

And the concrete? Just drill a hole in it. Shiet guy.

Is THAT what those facilities were?! Wow, we remember captureing some strange peoples and grabbing some nukes for ourselves. We could of SWORN that was one of our installations, but now that we see this, we just found out that we have some of your Military Personel! OMG! That means that we also captured your nukes!

Sweet thing, we love nukes....thanks for the New Years Gifts!

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P.S. Hey, you do realize that....we won't be giving anything back anytime soon...we kinda....feel like using your nukes since their ours now. Muahaha.

Yes, I'm Evil.

EDIT:

Ye,s I know this thread is old, but, hell, why not grab the nukes before they take'em back? I mean, Free Nukes! Who wouldn't want'em!

Axis Nova will be excercising it's rights under Section One, Part D of the "Law of the Sea" resolution recently passed. For those interested, we shall post an excerpt here.

d) Freedom to lay cables, pipelines and underwater installations, unless in a Maritime Preservation Zone

As these underwater silos fall under "Underwater installations", you have no choice in the matter except to allow our construction crews in or be declared in violation of a UN resolution. Have a nice day :D

Axis Nova State Department

To Whom It May Concern,

His Royal Majesty King Matt the First wishes to inform you that any NBC facility building within twenty (20) miles of the Yorklandia coastline will be considered an attack on His Majesty's Armed Forces. His Majesty suggests you think carefully before persuing a belligerent course of action. Our nation may be small, but we have some large allies in the region.

Signed,

HRH King Matt The First
HRH Queen Chelsea The First
Prince Matt II of Yorklandia
Duke Peter of Harris, Minister of Defense