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Future tech nations want for space RP (Sign up)

Moleland
20-09-2004, 13:27
SIGN UPS ARE CLOSED!!!!
OOC: I must confess, that this is not my original idea.

I was part of a similar rp, but people stopped paying any attention to it and posting on it, and it slowly died out...

So, I've decided to try again. I'm look for 6 or 7 (first come, first serve) to join me in this RP

No alliances please to start off with. They can be formed as we go along. My idea for the start is that someone can enter another nations space and a miss understanding provokes a war that spreads out etc

a few rules. some obvious, others not

1. NO GODMODDING
2. Please explain any technology before you use it.
3. No planet destroying or nuclear weaponry allowed (although chemical and/or biological are allowed)
4. This is not a war game. This is real. the losses are real!!!!!!!
5. No hero characters. Jedis are allowed, but they must be killerable, OK!
More rules will be made up as we go along.

Any takers?
SIGN UPS ARE NOW CLOSED
Nations signed up

1. Moleland
2. Feazanthia
3. Orange State
4. Sskiss
5. Arenumberg
6. Lessr Tsurani
7. Larix-Kura
Feazanthia
20-09-2004, 13:37
I'll devote a medium squadron to this.
Moleland
20-09-2004, 13:42
you have been accepted
Moleland
20-09-2004, 14:10
bump
Moleland
20-09-2004, 14:52
bump x2
Orange state
20-09-2004, 15:07
Sounds interesting.

What level of explaining? I mean Im guessing explining lasers or plasma weaponry is unessesary? Or do I have to explain everything? Sheilding (which its FT will get vague explanation)

Either way. Im in if you want me.

Heres a few things that might help.

For space craft They cost about $10000-$20000 per ton, which is a bit more, but comaprible to modern tech flaoty ships its the future, space travel would get cheaper. My troops are gentically engineered and wear powered armour, the weapons coul;d be carrieed by normal men or even my super humans in power amour. I only have 500000 men in my army. My light fighters and bombers are air and space force (while my heavy fighters are space only).
I can travel at huge speeds (300000 light) if i am a significant distance from a large gravitational field (ie not inside solar syatems or near planets) but only about 2 light otherwise. Combat speed is about 0.1 light. It still takes 2 months to cross the galaxy at full speed (and Id have to stop and refuel the reactor after a couple of months at that speed.. or take supply vessels)


If you can live with that, things should be good? The details are there sop you can decide if im good, godmoding or just a little too close to the line for your liking.
Moleland
20-09-2004, 15:23
sounds fine to me! Only stuff i've mentioned is unfair (and riduculous) I mean, where's the sport in destroying entire planets???

Your in. welcome.
Orange state
20-09-2004, 15:29
OOC: Good good. Planet destroyers would bankrupt most nations in nationstates anyway.

The nuke thing though? In space surely nues would just make a good warhead for torpedos, rather than vapourising every ship instantly like MT? So they arent uber weapons, just expensive ones. I mean a 20KT nuke in space wont do more than hit a few ships and maybe burn a few sheilds out/ melt a little armour maybe?

I wont use them if thats the rules, but my battleships normally have them for attacking large fleets with. (so I can scatter them or destroy their escorts.. either way earning a nice tactical advantage) I wouldnt nuke planets or unless i wanted geneocide... and my nation really just wants to trade... hell its the kind of place that would avoid war and would instead sell to both sides.

Planet killers are like nukes in MT Id only use them as a finishing off tactic for someone who really asked for it... it had threatened my nation's very existance far too closely to be allowed to live and refused to form an alliance.
Moleland
20-09-2004, 19:43
The reason I don't want nukes, period, is because some nation will go and nuke everyone and poision my people! You can have chemicla and biological weapons, because those can be resisted, but no nukes. sorry. If battleships have them, you'll have leave them 'at home'
Sskiss
20-09-2004, 19:50
Moleland, I have a question. How advanced are you willing to allow the technologies used in the RP?

Also, I'm not big on planet killers either - I mean why ruin good real estate, right? ;). Most of my ships are under a kilometer long anyway. A couple reach the 1.5 - 2.0 Km range and that's about it. Even those, my race has less than a dozen. Is this exceptable? In general my technologies are well explained - and they are open to view and criticism.
Moleland
20-09-2004, 19:59
you have been accepted.

Ship sizes can be as large as you like, as long as you don't have 12 million of them that's fine.

Have some large ships, but they are rare and are mainly royal transports

Remember, the bigger the ship, the more vulerable it is to small, nippy and agile starfighters.

3 or 4 more palyers wanted, anyone interested???
Notquiteaplace
20-09-2004, 20:00
Skiss, you are about as old as me (nationwise) and that sounds a bit like my fleet. Maybe a dozen ships over a mile (a few less I think) a few at kilometer and the rest well under.

If you are sensible buying it and do it cleverly no one will mind. But people with ships in the tens of millions of tonnes and by the dozen are obviously godmoding no matter how big. (that much metal alone would break the bank)

I dont think you could be rejected.

OOC EDIT1: oops wrong nation. It happens sometimes. Look in my sig and you'll see who I meant to be.

EDIT2: Yeah okay, no nukes, I wouldnt nuke your planet anyway, just fleet (if igo to war)

All that said If im not nuking... nobody else is... so I shant moan.
Arenumberg
20-09-2004, 20:14
You can count me in on this, ive been around for a while and i dont even use nuclear warheads etc in my future tech, and ive had no complaints so far, so let me know :).
Moleland
21-09-2004, 10:46
Arenumberg, you have been accepted
Moleland
21-09-2004, 10:49
Ah! Notaquietplace. You said Ashford was a dump didn't you grr...

What nation were you supposed to be, because I can't be bothered to look at your signature.

You have been accepted though!
Moleland
21-09-2004, 11:35
bump
-Bretonia-
21-09-2004, 11:39
Hmm. I was going to sign up, but this nation is my primitive space tech nation, I doubt it would be much use here. My other one certainly wouldn't be much use, as they've only just regained power and have to rebuild EVERYTHING. NM.
Moleland
21-09-2004, 11:41
So is that a yes, or a no...
-Bretonia-
21-09-2004, 11:43
I said NM, which I thought was the universally accepted abbreviation for 'never mind'. It was a 'no', with 'maybe if I think about it for a while longer I might reconsider' undertones :D.
Moleland
21-09-2004, 11:46
OK! You think about it... say, could you see what Notaquietplace's signature is and post it here? Because the internet i'm using filters the post he makes
-Bretonia-
21-09-2004, 12:00
OK! You think about it... say, could you see what Notaquietplace's signature is and post it here? Because the internet i'm using filters the post he makes

Are you sure you have signatures enabled in your Profile/Options page? That caught me too... I've never been to a forum where they're disabled by default.

Anyway, I think he intended to be Orange State judging from his signature. It does say "yes, i am indeed also Orange state!" in it, anyway.
Lessr Tsurani
21-09-2004, 12:02
I will join, my armies just went under a reform, and now I have 200 thousand Alethrians with nothing to do. VERY BAD. Your average Altehrian will start killing themselves if they don't have a use. So why not.
Larix-Kura
21-09-2004, 12:04
OOC: I'm a future tech nation, I exist on two world systems which I think qualifys me. For what your saying is that we are going to be in a little part of space where our ships or armies will meat in a sort of "live ammo mock battle" except the losses are real and so are the gains. Well I can, for this scenario you've drawn up have a fleet of say 30-40 ships. I think I could spare that since no one knows the location of my homeworld and its defense fleets are big enough that 35 ships won't be horribly missed.

I'll be using Heavy styled laser cannons, Medium Lasers, and a Nova-class concussion missile which has the explosive capacity of 1/4 of Hiroshima. My ships will consist of frigates, fighters, and one or two carriers.

Just say when we are doing this and I will bring my fleet to meet, if I'm accepted.
Lessr Tsurani
21-09-2004, 12:05
Now, I noticed that you said explain tech, so, for rift technology, look here
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=464
you will see an expliantion for both Rift Tranporting AND rift Sytem sheilds.
Larix-Kura
21-09-2004, 12:09
Also I wont have more than say 700 ground troops armed with laser rifles and light armour. So any realastate I have will be like a small base. this for me is mostly to test my RP skills with my fleet.
Moleland
21-09-2004, 12:11
You are both accepted.

Thanks for your help -Bretonia-.

I look at your link in a while.
Moleland
21-09-2004, 12:14
I'm looking for 1 more nation, better be quick...
Moleland
21-09-2004, 12:26
Bump

Note, if I reach 3 bumps, I shall close sign ups!
Moleland
21-09-2004, 12:32
bump x2
Larix-Kura
21-09-2004, 12:34
OOC: Yay! My fleet I will post by 5:00 eastern Europe time. My fleet commander will be who you refer to me as (so as to stay in role) and I am looking foreward to this RP. GoodLuck everyone. Cuz I'm gonna get ya! LOL jk'in.
Moleland
21-09-2004, 12:46
BUMP x3. your out

SIGN UPS ARE NOW CLOSED.

My idea for the storyline is that someone (Orange state, as your traders) enter my space by accident. All the other nations, wanted to expand and colonise also turn up.
Misunderstandings lead to alliances being formed and war breaking out (I'm not sure how... we'll see how it goes)

I'll now telegram those that have signed up, and when they reply, Orange state can start on my instructions...
Moleland
21-09-2004, 13:39
Nations so far responded

1. Moleland
2. Lessr Tsurani
3. Larix-Kura
4. Orange state
5. Arenumberg
Arenumberg
21-09-2004, 16:00
I think we can all think of reasons for a colony ship dissidents or something setting up shop in that sector, turn it into a sort of mini rp or something, but otherwise, hell, lets go imperialist mad!
Larix-Kura
21-09-2004, 16:17
MAMOTH-CLASS HEAVY CARRIER

(# in fleet- 5)

NAME/DESIGNATION: Mamoth-class/ Fighter Carrier
SIZE:1000 Meters
ARMOR CLASS: A
SHIELD CLASS: A
CREW: 1200
PASSENGERS: 300 troops
SPEED: "Jump" capabilities/ 450 KPH
WEAPONS: 4 Heavy Laser Quad Cannons
8 Medium Laser Cannons
200 Nova-Class Missile Turrents

OTHER CRAFT ONBOARD: 2 Fighter Squadrons / (75 per squadron/150 fighters)

What it looks like (http://artships.com/2004/red_starboard.jpg)

HAMMERHEAD-CLASS LIGHT ASSUALT FRIGATE

(# In fleet- 10)

NAME/DESIGNATION: HammerHead-class/ Assualt Craft
SIZE: 300 meters
ARMOR CLASS: A
SHIELD CLASS: B
CREW: 50
PASSENGERS: 75 troops
SPEED: Jump Nav/Comp / 600 KPH
WEAPONS: 2 Heavy Quad Laser cannons
4 Medium Lasers
40 Nova-Class Missiles

What it looks like ( http://artships.com/1999/fed_side.jpg)


DRAGON-CLASS ASSAULT FRIGATE

(# in fleet- 15)

NAME/DESIGNATION: Dragon-class/ main assault frigate
SIZE: 350 meters
ARMOR CLASS: B
SHIELD CLASS: A
CREW: 60
PASSENGERS: 100 troops
SPEED: Jump Nav/Comp / 650 KPH
WEAPONS: 4 Heavy Lasers
8 Medium Lasers
120 Nova-class missiles

What it looks like (http://artships.com/1997/o_side.jpg)


ARCHANGEL-CLASS HEAVY DESTROYER

(# In fleet- 10)

NAME/DESIGNATION: Archangel-class/ Ship Destoryer
SIZE: 900 meters
ARMOUR CLASS: A
SHEILD CLASS: A
CREW: 1000
SPEED: Nav Jump Comp/ 550 KPH
WEAPONS: 20 Heavy Quad Laser Cannons
25 Heavy Laser Cannons
25 Medium Laser Cannons
200 Nova-class Missiles

What 3 of them look like together (http://bobgagne.com/Battlefleet_Gothic/MarsonProwl.jpg)


LANCER-CLASS AND WASP-CLASS SPACE FIGHTERS

(# of Lancers- 375, # of Wasps- 375, 750 in all)

NAME/DESIGNATION: Lancer-class/ Fighter
SIZE: 12 meters
ARMOR CLASS: B
SHIELD CLASS: A
CREW: Pilot
SPEED: 750 KPH
WEAPONS: 2 heavy Laser cannons
2 Medium Laser cannons
20 Nova Missiles

Lancer (http://artships.com/2002/blue_top.jpg)


NAME/DESIGNATION: Wasp-class/ Light Fighter
SIZE: 7 meters
ARMOR CLASS: B
CREW: Pilot
SPEED: 900 KPH
WEAPONS: 1 Heavy laser cannon
2 Medium Laser cannons
10 Nova Missiles

Wasp (http://artships.com/1999/rfg_starboard.jpg)



OOC: Thats 40 ships, not counting fighters, hope you like my fleet.
Orange state
21-09-2004, 16:41
OOC:My fleet are pretty big, but I will expalin things as I go. It makes up about half my military (in value terms)

Otherwise though, it will be traders entering the system in some cargo ships and a few old escort fighters.

*jump* type capablities are also pretty useful. You either need to go well sub light to fight and manoever, or you want to go at hundreds of thousnads of times the speed of light to cross the galaxy in a few weeks (or less if possible). Any middle ground is pretty pointless.
Sskiss
21-09-2004, 22:33
Here's most of my ships (not yet finished) and all my ordinance. More will be added at a later date.

http://www.esusalliance.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=860

If you have any questions, just ask.
Lessr Tsurani
22-09-2004, 09:17
I am goin to post my fleet, as soon as I have it done. Bloody hell this is going to take a while.
Lessr Tsurani
22-09-2004, 10:18
Ok, finaily done, here is my army orinisation, as for the ships, they are different depesding on the legion, so there is no point in telling you their stuff. It is in the millatary systemo my page here:
http://www.freewebs.com/scoote/index.htm So look there to see my armies.
Moleland
22-09-2004, 11:12
thanks for the info!!!

I'll tell you what ships and stuff I have as you meet you them. My craft have hyperdrive, so they can move fast from sector, to sector. I'm still waiting for a few nations to reply.
Lessr Tsurani
22-09-2004, 11:42
OOC Like my website?
Moleland
22-09-2004, 12:18
yeah, looks good! A few spelling errors in it, but nice background though!
Larix-Kura
22-09-2004, 12:24
OOC: A major point to point out in my opinion is reinforcements. I think some should be allowed during some point in the game. Not where a huge fleet comes out of my ass but say 10 more frigates and one carrier come to reiforce my fleet. So my question is wether or not reinforcements will be allowed and if so then are we allowed a certain amount? Also I think we should all start with some sort of base say the system where we will be fighting has 10 to 13 or more planets. Our ships will need supply bases as well as a place to get more men if losses sustain such. So its all up to the rules of the game.
Orange state
22-09-2004, 12:25
My fleet details will be given where and when needed. But our sheilds are rated in charge per second (recovery rate) and have capacitors 100 times this rating. Incoming attacks are disrupted by basically sending energy the other way. Originally this meant a charge 100% of the incoming attack's energy (kinetic, heat etc) was needed, but recent improvement allow limited channeling of the energy into the capacitors, as such it only now requires about 60% of the incoming energy to deflect an attack. We are still trying to push this idea further.

Our ships can manage light speed eventually,and boast awesome acceleration, naturally we use crude gravity fields to stop our crew being crushed, to go faster we leave a system and activate a jump drive which, by altering the laws of physics around the craft (in a sort of bubble) allows it to travel at up to 300000 light. If we wish to run weapons and manoever effectively ou r combat speeds are capped at about .1 light.

Deatils of our armour and infantry are given in the test thread. We use bionic implants which can read brainwaves and so through much (inhumane) testing (on criminals naturally) we were able to read and program brain waves through an implant, allowing us to allow crew of ships to see ship details, warriors to control their armour, and communictions to commence through radio and feed direct into the brain. so quietly.

I thought i d just give an overview of some of our tech.
Moleland
22-09-2004, 12:38
Well, how our hyperspace is very complicated. According to Einstein in his theory of relatively, he said if you travelled at the speed of light, you will arrive at your destination before you left, which of course is impossible
However, he also said that you could travel much faster and without the dodgy effect if you enter 'HYPERSPACE' which is a different dimension. Once the hyperdrive is deactivated, the craft exits hyperspace.
Did that make sence to anyone??
Larix-Kura
22-09-2004, 14:32
OOC: Yea that kinda rang a bell. Anyway there is also the Navigational Jumping of ships. Where a ship has a navigational computer that maps out space. The pilot then gives the computer the corrordinates he wishes to travel to. The Nav comp then finds them in space gives an ETA of the jump then the ship jump when the Pilot triggers the voice command. Inside this "jump" you are basicly in hyperspace so to speak. It takes a limited number of days to get from one spot to another however. once the corordinates have been reached the ship comes out of , what I like to call N-space, into "real" space where combat is made. Once there the computer must be given another set of corodinates. Some jumps have been used so often that programs have been made so that a Nav computer only has to coe out of N-space for a matter of seconds before continueing onto the next jump. In emergency its possible to jump from a known point to an unknown thus creating new jump points. Most of the galaxy has been mapped and jumps recorded by expiditionary ships but there are still some point unwhich our Nav computers do not know.

Thats my Jump System in a nutshell. I can travel from system to system in about one standard week or less. Most time depending on the course and the system to which I'm traveling to. My ships all have sublight engines which speeds are measured out in Kilometers.

And you still haven't answered my question Moleland about te reinforcements...
Moleland
22-09-2004, 15:47
you will be allowed as many ships as you like. sure you can have reinforcements.
Moleland
22-09-2004, 16:45
bump
Orange state
22-09-2004, 17:07
I get the feeling our jump drives are not the most efficient way to go, but Orange state isnt that advanced, compaired to some, instead, we just get the universe to do it our way.
Moleland
22-09-2004, 17:11
we are in the same country, orange state!
Orange state
22-09-2004, 17:43
OOC: you mean in RL?

I used to live in Ashford actually (Kennington). I live in Deal near Dover myself. Moved there when i was 13!

Right now im in Guildford though. (uni)
Moleland
22-09-2004, 19:43
Of course!!!! Your puppet nation (Notaquietplace) Insulted ashford... called it a dump... Well, depends how long ago 13 was, but it's now a meh town...
Larix-Kura
23-09-2004, 07:57
Whens this show gonna start?
Moleland
23-09-2004, 11:01
If you've seen the below edited post, you'll see who hasn't responded. give them a week, and if i still don't get an naswer, i'll throw them out!
GMC Military Arms
23-09-2004, 11:09
Well, how our hyperspace is very complicated. According to Einstein in his theory of relatively, he said if you travelled at the speed of light, you will arrive at your destination before you left, which of course is impossible
However, he also said that you could travel much faster and without the dodgy effect if you enter 'HYPERSPACE' which is a different dimension. Once the hyperdrive is deactivated, the craft exits hyperspace.
Did that make sence to anyone??

Einstein didn't say any of that.
Moleland
23-09-2004, 11:12
he said something to that effect though! It was part of his theory, if not it was added upon...
Lessr Tsurani
24-09-2004, 14:58
OOC Can we start, and the lasty person can just catch up? PLEASE, I am really bored at the moment.
Lessr Tsurani
25-09-2004, 12:41
Bump
Moleland
25-09-2004, 20:54
Ok! Keep your hair on. All those that are reading this. Orange sTate can now start either in this thread or another thread.

If you've signed up but haven't replied, you'll just have to catch up!
Orange state
26-09-2004, 13:43
um sorry ive got internet problems right now. My whole house has the net except me, and my "admin" has his girlfriend round for a few days so is really not much use.

I'll post a thread as soon as its sorted and TG put the address for it on here when i do.

Sorry.
Orange state
26-09-2004, 22:13
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7110871#post7110871

there. Enjoy. I put a lot of effort into that