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The theocracy of doom777 has a large military consisting of 18 million soldiers + 20 million more in reserves. However, our soldiers are fighting almost bare handed. We are now blowing a gigantic portion of our budget on weapons. Of course many protesters are against it, but we jailed a large portion of them for 4 days. The protesters number has decreased now by 80%.

The weapons we're buying are:
Automatic guns, preferably AK-107, XM-29 SABR OICW
Heavy tanks, Abrams, T-95, MK4
Ships and submarines
Fighters: MIG, EuroFighter Typhoon,
Bombers: B1 Lancer, Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack
Grenade launchers -AGS-30
Fire throwers RPO

"We call on the world not to sell the theocracy weapons."

The theocracy of doom777 has a large military consisting of 18 million soldiers + 20 million more in reserves. However, our soldiers are fighting almost bare handed. We are now blowing a gigantic portion of our budget on weapons. Of course many protesters are against it, but we jailed a large portion of them for 4 days. The protesters number has decreased now by 80%.

The weapons we're buying are:
Automatic guns, preferably AK-107, XM-29 SABR OICW
Heavy tanks, Abrams, T-95, MK4
Ships and submarines
Fighters: MIG, EuroFighter Typhoon,
Bombers: B1 Lancer, Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack
Grenade launchers -AGS-30
Fire throwers RPO

We can sell you T-95's for 6.5m a piece

http://www.worstwinter.fpscentral.com/Images/T-95pic4.jpg

goodluck

OOC: May I show you what I have.

IC:

H&K Assault Rifle '04

Caliber: 5.45x39 mm
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt; moving barrel-receiver-gas drive group for delayed recoil action
Overall length: 943 mm (728 mm with butt folded)
Barrel length: 405 mm
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Weight, without magazine: 3.85 k g
Cyclic rate of fire: 1800 and 600 rounds per minute variable (see description below for explanation)
Maximum effective range: 900 meters

The gun is much more effective than the M-16 or the Ak-74, although it meets equal standards to the AN-94, the most advance RL rifle of the world, only surpassing it in range.

Cost: 12,000 USD



Fighters

MMA-A2 Hawk

Maximum Speed: Mach 3.4
Supercruise: Mach 2.1
WingSpan: 36 feet
Internal Fuel: 16,000 lbs
Payload: 1,000 lbs
Take-off weight is 20 tonnes
2 MVL V1 Thrust Engines

Armament:
1 30mm Vulcan
18 A-11 Archers
2 500lb cruise missiles
The Aircrafts 8 Internal Hardpoints can carry Air-To-Surface Missiles,Air-to-Air Missiles,Bombs and also ECM Pods for electronic warfare.

RADAR:
The Hawk uses a miniature, but upgraded, TENEX Spy-6 RADAR system, which burns through all known stealth equipment at 76 kilometers. The land based Spy- has a range of 670kms. "It utilises the steerable radar beam first developed for the SPY-5 system, meaning that aircraft or missiles linked to this system can have their own internal radars off and still have an electronic contact better than if they were standalone." (Iraq)

Max Ceiling:

Some 70,000 feet.

Life Support Systems.

The Hawk life support system integrates all critical components of clothing, protective gear, and aircraft equipment necessary to sustain the pilot's life while flying the aircraft. In the past, these components had been designed and produced separately. The life support system components include:

An on-board oxygen generation system that supplies breathable air to the pilot.
An integrated breathing regulator/anti-g valve (BRAG) that controls flow and pressure to the mask and pressure garments.
A chemical/biological/cold-water immersion protection ensemble.
An upper body counterpressure garment and a lower body anti-G garment acts a partial pressure suit at high altitudes.
An air-cooling garment thermal relief for the pilot.
Helmet and helmet-mounted systems including C/B goggles and C/B hood; and the a breathing mask and hose system
The Hawk uses liquid cooling, rather than air cooling for the mission avionics. Su-48 is breaking ground in liquid cooling and the environment in which it works. Resistance to high temperature and durability were the driving factors in the liquid cooling design.

There are six fuel tanks on the Hawk, including one in the forward fuselage behind the pilot's ejection seat. The others are located in the fuselage and the wings.

The Hawk Communications/Navigation/Identification (CNI) 'system' is a collection of communication, navigation, and identification functions, once again employing the CIP for signal and data processing resources. Each CNI function has its associated aperture installed throughout the aircraft.
Included in the Communications/Navigation/Identification (CNI) system is an Inter/Intra-Flight Data Link (IFDL) that allows all Hawk in a flight to share target and system data automatically and without radio calls. The Inter/Intra Flight Data Link is one of the powerful tools that make all Hawk more capable. One of the original objectives for the Su-48 was to increase the percentage of fighter pilots who make 'kills'. With the IFDL, each pilot is free to operate more autonomously because, for example, the leader can tell at a glance what his wing man's fuel state is, his weapons remaining, and even the enemy aircraft he has targeted. Targets can be automatically prioritized and set up in a shoot list with one button push. A 'shoot' cue in the head up display alerts the pilot to the selected weapon kill parameters and he fires the weapons. Both a pilot's and wing man's missile flight can be monitored on the cockpit displays. Classical tactics based on visual 'tally' (visual identification) and violent formation maneuvers that reduce the wing man to 'hanging on' may have to be rethought in light of such capabilities. This link also allows additional Su-48 flights to be added to the net for multi-flight coordinated attack.
The Electronic Warfare 'system' is also a collection of apertures, electronics, and processors (again using the CIP) that detect and locate signals from other aircraft and controls the Hawk expendable countermeasures (chaff and flares). The EW aperture locations provide all-aspect coverage, and the system includes a missile launch detection capability.
The Hawks electronic warfare system includes a radar warning receiver and a missile launch detector.
The Stores Management System (SMS) controls weapons launch sequences, including door control (for the internal weapons carriage) and emergency weapons jettison.
The power supply modules designed for the Hawk avionics are cooled with polyalphaolefin (PAO) liquid coolant to carry away heat generated by the supplies' power-conversion process. The reduced temperature allows the component's power output to increase from 250 watts to 400 watts. Each module measure 6.41 inches by 5.99 inches by 0.58 inches and weighs 1.8 pounds.
The avionics racks, located in the forward fuselage, contain the processing, not only for the mission avionics, but also for the Vehicle Management System (VMS) and Integrated Vehicle System Controller (IVSC). The flight worthy racks, including the liquid-flowthrough racks required for the CIP.
Two Litton LN-100F ring laser gyroscopes in the forward fuselage provide the aircraft a self-contained method of knowing where it is. These inertial measurement units, placed nose to nose behind the radar on the aircraft's centerline, are operated off separate data buses to provide independent measurement data. In normal flight, IRS data is fused with Global Positioning System (GPS) data to provide an extremely reliable navigational capability. The IMUs are the only completely reliable source of data for the aircraft at attitudes above 30 degrees angle of attack (AOA). One of the IRS units feeds data directly into the CIP for gun control steering.
The Flying Test Bed (FTB) represents an interim test environment between the controlled, but static environment of the ground labs, and the dynamic flight testing of the Hawk. Sensor systems installed in the aircraft, CIPs, as well as operator consoles and instrumentation will be used to test avionics capabilities prior to release to the Hawk.

Building Cost: 350 million (very expensive factory equipment)


90 million USD




I have much more of advanced ordnance at : http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=15

If you do go there please order there...

OOC:900m effective range? Can I get a godmod to go?

OOC:900m effective range? Can I get a godmod to go?
OOC:That's what I was about to say.

IC: I will purchase 50 MMA-A2 Hawks, and 3,000 T-95s

We offer you fine Torsg Federal Arms weaponry. Exentensively tested for maximum accurary and firepower. Handcrafted by experienced gunsmiths with tradional techniques for maximum quality.

TA-04 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta04.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 7.62x51mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 1200 mm
Barrel length: 500 mm
Weigth: 3.8 kg / 4.2 loaded
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Effective range of fire: 700 m

Cost per weapon: 180$

TA-95 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta95.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 9x19mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 820 mm
Barrel length: 250 mm
Weigth: 2.9 kg / 3.9 loaded
Rate of fire: 800 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 50 rounds drum / 35 rounds curved box magazine
Effective range of fire: 500 m

Cost per weapon: 245$

TA-90 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta90.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 7.62x51mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 900 mm
Barrel length: 400 mm
Weigth: 3.2 kg / 3.9 loaded
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Effective range of fire: 600 m

Cost per weapon: 220$

TA-75 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta-75.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: .700 Nitro Express
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 1350 mm
Barrel length: 700 mm
Weigth: 10.2 kg / 11.3 loaded
Rate of fire: semi-automatic
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Effective range of fire: 1.5km

Cost per weapon: 4000$

TA-85 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta85.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 7.92x57mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 1250 mm
Barrel length: 600 mm
Weigth: 4.2 kg / 5.1 loaded
Rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds
Effective range of fire: 900 m

Cost per weapon: 540$

TA-55 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/mg42c.jpg)
Action: gas operated, rotating bolt
Caliber: 7.92x57 mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Weigth: 11.5 kg on bipod; 18 kg on light AA tripod; 32 kg on infantry tripod
Overall length: 1220 mm
Barrel length: 533 mm
Feeding: belt
Rate of fire: 1200 rounds/min
Effective range of fire: 500m

Cost per weapon: 200$

TA-42M (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta-42.jpg)
Action: gas operated
Caliber: 20x105mm
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Weigth: 178.46kg
Overall length: 2300 mm
Barrel length: 1200 mm
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Rate of fire: semi-automatic
Effective range of fire: 2000+m

Cost per weapon: 3200$

TA-88 (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/ta88.jpg)
Action: blowback, double-action
Caliber: .45 acp
Manufacturer: Torsg Federal Arms
Overall length: 180 mm
Barrel length: 99 mm
Weigth: 0.8kg / 0.9kg loaded
Rate of fire: semi-automatic
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Effective range of fire: 250 m

Cost per weapon: 150$

OOC:900m effective range? Can I get a godmod to go?

OOC: Heh... not godmod... the AN-94, the most advanced RL rifle in the world, of course, produced by the Russian Federation, has a range of 900 yards..so mine goes about 1,050 yards.... so now be quiet.

Range =| effective range. Effective range means the bullet has a 50% chance of hitting the target at that range.

The AK-47 has a 300m range.
The M16 has a 550m range(outstanding for an assault rifle, by the way).
The An-94 has an effective range of 700m, which is quite outstanding as well.

The An-94 is a very expensive gun, which is how it gets all of these qualities. To make your gun have more range, presumably your bullets will have to have more charge, and that means more recoil, which defeats the purpose of a very high RoF. Unless you are future tech, godmode...

Edit: Just saw the price. Guess it isn't a godmode, for that much money.

50 Hawks confirmed.

but one has to wonder if the Small nasty 5.45mm Soviet round (unless of course your 5.45x39mm is a totally different round) would actually be of any use at that range... essepcailly from a shorter barrel than an M16...

If you were interested in nuclear or chemical weapons, we could sell them to you.

www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana

but one has to wonder if the Small nasty 5.45mm Soviet round (unless of course your 5.45x39mm is a totally different round) would actually be of any use at that range... essepcailly from a shorter barrel than an M16...

It would if you used expanding rounds...

If you were interested in nuclear or chemical weapons, we could sell them to you.

www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana
Thanks, we're not interested in nuclear weapons. We make those ourselves.

50 Hawks confirmed.
17,500,000,000 wire transfered. We're awaiting delivery.
Torsg: 3 million TA 95's. I assume the price includes ammo.

Thr Triumvirate has authorized the sale of 20,000,000 units of our own assault rifle, the 12.7 mm. A.R.1.

Technical specifications
Caliber: 12.7 mm. x 52 mm. (caseless)
Length: 950 mm.
Barrel length: 900 mm.
Muzzle velocity: 1,200 m./s.
Magazine capacity: 3 x 25 rounds
Weight: 4.25 kg. (5 kg. combat ready)
Rate of fire: 800, 1,200 or 10,000
Range: 1,500 theoretical, 800 effectively

The A.R.1 is a revolutionary rifle, with both caseless ammunition and a three-magazine internal storage.
The caseless ammunition makes it possible to obtain an extremely high rate of fire. The round is revolved into the chamber by the magazine, where it is fire automatically by an electric current. Since there is no case, no shell has to be ejected. This ensures a minimum of moving parts in the weapon, and a very high rate of fire of 10,000 rounds per minute (for five-round bursts), and 1,200 for continuous fire.
Furthermore, three magazines may be placed in teh weapon at a time, giving a capacity of a total of 75 rounds. As a magazine is emptied, it is automatically released from teh A.R.1, and a new magazine slides into place. The user then only has to cock the weapon, and can then continue to fire.

The recoil from the 12.7 mm. round is virtually eliminated by using a secondary powder charge and a number of hydraulic pumps.

The price is USD 5,000 per unit, or USD 50,000,000,000 if you buy 20,000,000 rifles.

Bah go for a weapon that uses a round that offers a real improvement over anythign currently used and has actually been tested.
A good example would be the 6.25x43mm round as used in my S1A3 and S7A3 rifles:
http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/rifles.html

(the 500m range is a very conservative estimate, both weapons can hit reliably at 700m with a decent marksman and penetrate all but the strongest body armour at that range, but then again the actual poitn of a rifle round reaching that range is debatable, as studies do indicate that agaisnt a moving target, 400m is about the longest range your avaerage soldier can hit anything at).

Thr Triumvirate has authorized the sale of 20,000,000 units of our own assault rifle, the 12.7 mm. A.R.1.

Technical specifications
Caliber: 12.7 mm. x 52 mm. (caseless)
Length: 950 mm.
Barrel length: 900 mm.
Muzzle velocity: 1,200 m./s.
Magazine capacity: 3 x 25 rounds
Weight: 4.25 kg. (5 kg. combat ready)
Rate of fire: 800, 1,200 or 10,000
Range: 1,500 theoretical, 800 effectively

The A.R.1 is a revolutionary rifle, with both caseless ammunition and a three-magazine internal storage.
The caseless ammunition makes it possible to obtain an extremely high rate of fire. The round is revolved into the chamber by the magazine, where it is fire automatically by an electric current. Since there is no case, no shell has to be ejected. This ensures a minimum of moving parts in the weapon, and a very high rate of fire of 10,000 rounds per minute (for five-round bursts), and 1,200 for continuous fire.
Furthermore, three magazines may be placed in teh weapon at a time, giving a capacity of a total of 75 rounds. As a magazine is emptied, it is automatically released from teh A.R.1, and a new magazine slides into place. The user then only has to cock the weapon, and can then continue to fire.

The recoil from the 12.7 mm. round is virtually eliminated by using a secondary powder charge and a number of hydraulic pumps.

The price is USD 5,000 per unit, or USD 50,000,000,000 if you buy 20,000,000 rifles.
It's awefully expensive. 5,000 can get get a medium sniper rifle.

Still, we are offering a price of USD 2,500 per unit if you buy 20,000,000 units.

We could also arrange a trade negotiation, so that Metropolitanian will buy good from you for a total price of USD 25,000,000,000, against this weapons purchase of USD 50,000,000,000. That is in effect a cost of only USD 1,250 per unit.

The Triumvirate is especially interested in mining tools and industry grade diamonds, as well as certain agricultural products, such as rice, potatoes, maize and wheat.

It's awefully expensive. 5,000 can get get a medium sniper rifle.

Look at Torsg Federal Arms international store.
We have very high-quality weapons for sale at reasonable prices.

Torsg Federal Arms webstore (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/torsgarms.htm)

OOC: I know i suck at webdesign.

Look at Torsg Federal Arms international store.
We have very high-quality weapons for sale at reasonable prices.

Torsg Federal Arms webstore (http://koti.mbnet.fi/tissi/ns/torsgarms.htm)

OOC: I know i suck at webdesign.
Torsg, look above. I made an order from you already.

Torsg, look above. I made an order from you already.

Oh sorry, we will start shipping the guns there as soon as the money is wired. Ammo is sold separately, but because of high ordering amount it will be included this time. Current stockpile of weapons is only 200000, but we will continue to ship weapons until 3 million units are delivered.

735 million wired to Torsg


Metro, I am sorry, but we have a limited budget, and we still have to buy bombers, navy ships, and much more.

735 million wired to Torsg
Confirmed.

We still need:
Automatic guns, preferably XM-29, or at least AK-107
Heavy tanks: Abrams, T-95, MK4
Ships and submarines
Bombers: B1 Lancer, Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack
Grenade launchers: AGS-30
Fire throwers: RPO

Chellis, you also have an order.


OOC: I would prefer, however, weapons that already exist, not ones you made up.

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Come on, somone sell me some modern weapons.

ohh, didn't know the 3,000 was based toward me.

3,000 T-95's will come to 18,000,000,000 dollars...But I will throw in 40 rounds of APFSDS for each tank for free, for you are the first one to purchase the T-95 from us.

We sell most existing equipment, your choices just happened to be mostly equipment we personally dislike, and so don't produce as much, meaning higher prices.

ooc: not one person questions a Jun 2004 nation having a 18million man army?


Ic if you want some weapons visit the storefront link in my sig