NationStates Jolt Archive


RL nation claims (fair to everyone!)

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Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 11:04
i. Show your claims in this thread, but do not claim land itself. Link to it and I'll review it with the help of others.

ii. Bump your thread for a week or two and if nobody complains, RP's taking it back or whatever, it's yours.

iii. One land can have several owners as long as they all agree.

iv. Don't come here and start yammering about threads like these in general. I don't care and neither does anyone else who comes here.

v. Don't start arguments here. It's pointless and if somebody already owns a country then conquer it.

vi. Everybody who made a swell claim (not something like "I CLAIM IT ALL!!!") will be added to the list. No exceptions, everybody has equal opertunities. Please TG me if anything is missing, incorrect ect...

vii. This thread is fair and unbiased. Everybody can take a piece of land, providing you have roleplayed taking it.

viii. If your nation dies due to deletion or inactivity then you will lose all your claims.

ix. I will compile all the claims into easy to read maps. If something is wrong, drop me a line.

x. Nation claims from other earths who are unclaimed in RL earth, cannot be converted. This prevents a lot of confusion and misunderstandings.

xi. Claim donations. When nation A donates a colony he owns to B, then this is permanent unless it's switched by the respective owner(s).

xii. RL nations bigger than yourself (armies, citizens, economy) cannot be taken. Let's keep it realistic shall we?

Notes:
1) Cameroon is off limits to everybody. This is not discussable.
2) Europe is 100% full.
3) Don't bother with a one post claim. Nobody would recognize it.
4) Spain and Portugal are under control of Intelligent Neighbors (peace keeping mission)

THE LIST OF CURRENT CLAIMS
All inactive nations are filtered out.

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Africa
Bedou - Burkina Faso
Chellis - Mozambique
Chellis - Malawi
Chellis - Zimbabwe
Chellis - Part of Botswana
Chellis - Algeria
Chellis - Tunisia
Chellis - Chad
Chellis - Niger
Chellis - Nigeria
Chellis - Libya
Chellis - Western Sahara
Chellis - Morroco (contested)
Credonia - Somalia
Eredron - Botswana
Eredron - Namibia
Eredron - Mauritius
Guffingford - Cape Verde Islands
Guffingford - Guinea-Bissau
Guffingford - Guinea
Guffingford - Sierra Leone
Guffingford - Liberia
Guffingford - Cote D'Ivore
Guffingford - Ghana
Guffingford - Togo
Guffingford - Benin
Huzen Hagen - Eritrea
Independent Hitmen - South Africa
Independent Hitmen - Swaziland
Independent Hitmen - Lesotho
Intelligent Neighbors - Mauretania
Intelligent Neighbors - Mali
Intelligent Neighbors - Senegal
Intelligent Neighbors - Gambia
Menelcamar - Congo
Ozymandias IV - Madagascar
Roycelandia - Socrota
Roycelandia - Sudan
Roycelandia - Uganda
Roycelandia - Kenya
Roycelandia - Part of Gabon
United Elias - Part of Gabon
United Elias - Eastern half of Egypt
United Elias - Diego Garcia
United Elias - St Helena
United Elias - Ascension
United Elias - Sao Tome & Principe
Zarbia - Western Egypt
Zarbia - Angola
Zarbia - Zambia
Zarbia - Tanzania

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Dark green is California and Alaska - light green is New York and Jersey
America, North
California and Alaska - Alaska - AK
California and Alaska - Alberta - AB
California and Alaska - Arizona - AZ
California and Alaska - Arkansas - AR
California and Alaska - Bahamas - BS
California and Alaska - Baja California - BJ
California and Alaska - British Columbia - BC
California and Alaska - Bermuda - BM
California and Alaska - California - CA
California and Alaska - Colorado - CO
California and Alaska - East Nevada (Utah) - ENv.
California and Alaska - Haiti (includes frmr. Dominican Rep.) - HT
California and Alaska - Hawaii - HI
California and Alaska - Idaho - ID
California and Alaska - Jamaica - JM
California and Alaska - Kansas - KS
California and Alaska - Louisiana - LA
California and Alaska - Nevada - NV
California and Alaska - New Mexico - NM
California and Alaska - Oklahoma - OK
California and Alaska - Oregon - OR
California and Alaska - Sonora - SN
California and Alaska - Texas - TX
California and Alaska - Washington - TX
California and Alaska - Virgin Islands - VI
California and Alaska - West Montana - WMt.
California and Alaska - Wyoming - WY
California and Alaska - Yukon Territory - YT
Celack - Canada(Ontario Area)
Neo-Soviet Russia - Cuba
Neo-Soviet Russia - Florida Keyes
New York And Jersey - Puerto Rico
New York And Jersey - New York
New York And Jersey - New Jersey
New York And Jersey - Rhode Island
New York And Jersey - Pennsylvannia
New York And Jersey - Conneticut
New York And Jersey - Massachusetts
New York And Jersey - Vermont
New York And Jersey - New Hampshire
New York And Jersey - Maine
Western Asia - Ellesmere Island (parts of Canada)

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http://members.lycos.co.uk/manhattanproject120/south-america.jpg
America, South
Aztec National League - Mexico
Aztec National League - Guatemala
Aztec National League - Honduras
Drum Gods - Dutch Antilles
Dumpsterdam - Dutch Antilles
Flocarga and Delmarva - Argentina
Flocarga and Delmarva - Paraguay
Flocarga and Delmarva - Bolivia
Flocarga and Delmarva - Parts of Canada
Flocarga and Delmarva - Brazil
Flocarga and Delmarva - Costa Rica
Flocarga and Delmarva - Venezuela
Flocarga and Delmarva - Guyana
Flocarga and Delmarva - Suriname
Flocarga and Delmarva - French Guyana
Knootoss - Colombia
Kopparberg - Nicaragua
Talkos - Falkland Islands
Talkos - Uruguay
United Elias - Panama

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Asia
Bedou - Tajikistan (Contested)
Bob-Bob - Japan
California and Alaska - Oman
California and Alaska - Yemen
California and Alaska - Iran
Granzi - Kazakhstan (Margorn 2 provinces)
Hogsweat - Sawah (North Borneo)
Huzen Hagen - Northern Marianas Islands
Huzen Hagen - Kyrgyzstan
Islamaisbad - Iraq
Islamaisbad - Afghanistan
Islamaisbad - Saudi Arabia
Kanabia - Thailand
Kanabia - Malay Peninsula
Kanabia - Brunei
Kanabia - Burma
Kanabia - Brunei
Kanabia - Vietnam
Kanabia - Cambodia
Kanabia - Laos
Menelcamar - Kuwait
Menelcamar - United Arab Emirates
Menelcamar - Qatar
Menelcamar - Bahrain
Momanguise - Armenia
Momanguise - Georgia
Nianacio - Indonesia
Nianacio - Sri Lanka
Oshima and Izu - Izu Islands (near Japan)
Osgima and Izu - Sarawak
Rubberduckistan - Hainan
United Elias - Northern Saudi Arabia
United Elias - Southern Iraq
United Elias - Seychelles
United Elias - Brunei
United Indiastan - India
United Indiastan - Nepal
United Indiastan - Bhutan
United Indiastan - Pakistan
United Indiastan - Bangledash
Western Asia - Jordan
Western Asia - Lebanon
Western Asia - Syria
Western Asia - Sinai Peninsula
Western Asia - Turkey
Western Asia - Israel

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Australia & Oceania
Alloy Run - New Zealand (Islands below Cook Strait)
Dr_Twist - Australia
Roycelandia - Papua New-Guinea
The Evil Overlord - Easter Island
The Evil Overlord - Sala y Gomez
The Evil Overlord - Juan Fernandez Islands
The Evil Overlord - Wallis and Futuna
The Evil Overlord - Nauru
The Evil Overlord - Johnson Atoll
The Evil Overlord - Jarvis Island
The Evil Overlord - Palmyra Atoll
The Evil Overlord - Baker Island
The Evil Overlord - Clipperton Island
The Evil Overlord - Cook Islands
The Evil Overlord - Howland Island
The Evil Overlord - Galapagos Islands
The Evil Overlord - New Zealand (Islands above Cook Strait)
Western Asia - Guam
Western Asia - Wake Island
Western Asia - Midway Island
Wolfish - Niue

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Europe
Argyres - Certain Aegean islands
Bedou - 1/3rd of Sweden
Bob-Bob - Ireland
Bob-Bob - United Kingdom
Chellis - France
Chellis - Gribraltar (contested)
Dr_Twist - Bulgaria
Dr_Twist - Romania
Dr_Twist - Serbia
Dr_Twist - Albania
Dr_Twist - Macedonia
Dr_Twist - Croatia
Dr_Twist - Slovenia
Dr_Twist - Hungary
Dr_Twist - Moldova
Dr_Twist - Czech Republic
Dr_Twist - Slovakia
Dr_Twist - Austria
Dr_Twist - Greece
Dr_Twist - Italy
Guffingford - Norway
Guffingford - Finland
Guffingford - Poland (shared control with Dr_Twist)
Guffingford - Netherlands, The
Guffingford - Belgium
Guffingford - Luxembourg
Guffingford - Germany
Guffingford - Faroe Islands
Guffingford - Shetland Islands
Guffingford - Holy See, The
Guffingford - Lithuania
Guffingford - Azores
Guffingford - Lichtenstein
Hamptonshire - Denmark
Hamptonshire - Scotland
Huzen Hagen - Svalbard
Intelligent Neighbors - Spain (peace keeping mission)
Intelligent Neighbors - Portugal (peace keeping mission)
Intelligent Neighbors - Iceland
Ness ziona - Greenland
Russian Forces - Russia
Russian Forces - Ukraine
Russian Forces - Belarus
Soviet Bloc - Estonia
Soviet Bloc - Latvia
The Sword and Sheild - The Balearic Islands
The Sword and Sheild - Canary Islands
Watertest - Switzerland
Wazzu - 2/3rds of Sweden
Western Asia - Malta
Western Asia - Cyprus

North Pole & Antartica
Indra Prime - Parts of Antarctica
Jaratia - Part of North Pole
Moontian - Part of Antarctica
New Imperial Rome - Alexander Island (Antarctica)

UNCONFIRMED
These claims have yet to be confirmed or are pending to be added. Please do an ego search on one of those nations and look for the claims yourself or you can TG the person for the correct link. Mostly the tag [RL CLAIM] is added to the title.

Scoyle - Alabama
Scoyle - Florida
Scoyle - Georgia
Scoyle - North Carolina
Scoyle - South Carolina
Jonothana - Chile
Jonothana - Peru
Five Civilized Nations - Singapore
Bob-Bob - Philipines
Bob-Bob - China
Witzgall - Mongolia
Kopparbergs - Nicaragua
Hogsweat - South Korea
Hogsweat - North Korea
Hogsweat - Taiwan
Hogsweat - Philipines

IF ANYTHING IS WRONG, TELL ME.
Independent Hitmen
19-09-2004, 11:08
Myself and Sniper Country both claimed South Africa and then split it. As he has been deleted i would assume that I have sole control of it now? Thread of conquering was deleted i think.
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 11:15
Added.
Independent Hitmen
19-09-2004, 11:16
Thanks. Very quick work :).
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 11:27
Question: Would I need to roleplay taking over Switzerland, as no-one claims it currently? If so, who am I going to be fighting?
Ankhmet
19-09-2004, 11:31
OOh!Oooh!I want Egypt!
Ankhmet
19-09-2004, 11:32
Okay...Damnit!That country was rightfully mine! :pOkay...Ca I have Western Egypt?
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 11:34
Question: Would I need to roleplay taking over Switzerland, as no-one claims it currently? If so, who am I going to be fighting?

Switzerland is owned at the moment by Watertest, the map is slightly inaccurate. Changed it now

PS:
OOh!Oooh!I want Egypt!
This is the stuff I won't want to see here. If you want it, write a story when you take it, how and what kind of opposition you encounter, losses and let people know you have it.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 11:42
OK, I'll write an RP about a take-over of Lithuania and possibly Belarus, If they are untaken as the map shows?
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 11:45
OK, I'll write an RP about a take-over of Lithuania and possibly Belarus, If they are untaken as the map shows?

Yup. Everybody can take them.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 12:19
Well, I just wrote an RP showing how my troops took Lithuania. There was not much resistance, as the pop. of Lithuania is only 3,607,899 (July 04 Estimate).

Guess I wait to see if anyone responds.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 12:24
Do you think that if I ammassed a huge army on the Belarus border, and prepared for an all out assualt, maybe installing nuclear warheads near there, that Belarus would capitulate and agree to become part of my Empire (assuming of course that I allowed them to have their own government and rules, to an extent, as long as they recognised me as ruler)?
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 12:27
Be careful with Russian Forces around there mate. And yes, if you threaten with realistic things and enough men and wrap it up in your story I need no objections to you taking it. But before I add yer name, people must know you have it ie give people time to respond. A week or two should be enough I reckon.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 12:33
Ok, Will heed your warning. I will attach a bit on my post about threatening Belarus, and will assume after 8 RL days (Next Mon.) that they have capitulated and have allowed me to control them. Then you could put my name up, Ok?

Thanks.
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 12:35
Ok, Will heed your warning. I will attach a bit on my post about threatening Belarus, and will assume after 8 RL days (Next Mon.) that they have capitulated and have allowed me to control them. Then you could put my name up, Ok?

Thanks.

If nobody complained about your claim, attempted to take it back or conquer it, yes. Note this holds for everyone who makes a claim here, not just intelligent neighbors.
Intelligent Neighbors
19-09-2004, 12:41
Yes, understood. Thanks again for your help.
Guffingford
19-09-2004, 12:45
Oh HP you honeybun thanks for adding me
Roycelandia
19-09-2004, 14:04
OK, a few things:

I totally agree with the idea of this thread... Chellis' thread seems very unreasonable, especially since most of the nations in it are claimed by Nations that aren't active in II anymore.

Roycelandia has a large overseas Colony in Kenya, Uganda, and the Sudan, which also includes the Island of Socotra and Lesotho (Roycelandian East Africa).

Sadly, the original thread was lost in the shift to Jolt, but Lusaka, the African Commonwealth, and United Elias (amongst others) all recognise the claim.

We also control a large part of Gabon (specifically, the South-East- United Elias will confirm this). Again, the relevant Thread was lost in the shift to Jolt- but if you ask United Elias and Lusaka, they'll confirm it.

Roycelandia also owns New Guinea... I've never seen Nianciao RP lately, and even so, he seems to own a LOT of land in Asia/Oceania. The New Guinea Thread was made after the Jolt Shift, and can be found here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=332687
Huzen Hagen
19-09-2004, 14:39
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336146

Svalbard
Eritrea (east africa, near gulf)
The Northern Marianas Islands (collection of islands below japan)
Kyrgystan (below russia)

I know in the thread i claimed the azores and the madieras but those are claimed i believe, if you could ratify this it would be greatly apreciated


Post by me from chellises thread, hopefully you will recognise that claim
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 15:22
All added except Lesotho, Independent Hitmen owns is at the moment. Very good claims that were never recognized by a certain chap...
Zarbia
19-09-2004, 17:12
If you could put me up for Angola and Zambia, it would be appreciated.

I'll make a invading post later.

Thanks.
Holy panooly
19-09-2004, 17:32
If nobody complained about your claim, attempted to take it back or conquer it, yes. Note this holds for everyone who makes a claim here, not just intelligent neighbors.

Bump your claim for a week or two and then i'll add it.
Hamptonshire
19-09-2004, 19:27
HP- just a note, a reminder really, Cameroon is protected from annexation by a treaty signed by Chellis and Hamptonshire. That's one country that I expect to stay white for quite some time.


I do have to give you credit for coming up with what appears to be a more organized and more precise system as compared to what's currently in use.
Chellis
19-09-2004, 19:35
I would just like to say that I take a long time to update the RL nation claims. Just to show, I havn't even updated that I control Western Sahara, Libya, or France on RL nation claims. I do plan on giving you the Azores, I just havn't got to it yet. Im still deciding if I should give it to Guffingford(sp?) or not..His claim is very much on the border(Claiming lands that were controlled, but the listed nations died, he made an rp that wasn't up for long, without a very descriptive name, and was practically closed, etc.). I just want to be fair.

When I updated it next(probably will be today because of all the stuff happening), then please talk to me about whats wrong.
Independent Hitmen
19-09-2004, 20:21
My geographical knowledge is a little lacking in Africa, is Lesostho the bit near the sea or the completely surrounded bit?

Also free bump.
Chellis
19-09-2004, 20:28
My geographical knowledge is a little lacking in Africa, is Lesostho the bit near the sea or the completely surrounded bit?

Also free bump.

Lesotho is surrounded by south africa.
Enodscopia
19-09-2004, 22:55
Can I have Libya.
Roycelandia
20-09-2004, 02:35
No Worries on the Lesotho thing... if Independent Hitmen already has a claim to it, we won't object.

Mauritius and The Seychelles are Roycelandian Protectorates (there was a thread about the invasion of Madagascar we were involved in... Beth Gellert got involved, the Roycelandian troops Mutinied, Roycelandia made a tactical withdrawl and ended up with Mauritius and The Seychelles).

If Protectorates don't count, that's OK, and I apologise for the lack of a thread- again, pre-Jolt.

Thanks for finally recognising Roycelandian East Africa! The Imperial Foreign Ministry has sent a Gift Basket to the Holy Panoolian Cartographic Division by way of thanks...
Hardheads
20-09-2004, 02:39
If no one has already Id like to claim my home country of Iceland, if that's possible.
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 08:49
Chellis, you had plenty of time to update and improve your list. I made one that's updated on a day to day basis (I hope), more accurate and precise. There are still a lot of omissions in this thread and I'm working to fix them all to create a perfect reference chart for the RP community. Roycelandia, if you control it then it's yours. Simple as that. Enodscopia, if you RP it then you can have it. Read the rules on post #1. And thanks Hampton!
Guffingford
20-09-2004, 11:01
HP, can you add denmark under hamptons name? it's ok now.
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 11:38
Done and added the map of Asia
The Japanese People
20-09-2004, 11:43
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/ni-ka/japanmap-en.asp

The cream-colored lands on this site are owned by me, even the small islands on the bottom of the map are cream, which means I own them too.

No one will steal these lands from me, I claimed them a while back! :mad: :mad: :mad: :D :D :D
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 11:46
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/ni-ka/japanmap-en.asp

The cream-colored lands on this site are owned by me, even the small islands on the bottom of the map are cream, which means I own them too.

No one will steal these lands from me, I claimed them a while back! :mad: :mad: :mad: :D :D :D

Sorry mate, already owned by somebody else. Read the list before you claim.
Momanguise
20-09-2004, 11:49
Claiming Armenia

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=340720


Thank you.
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 11:49
Added and a good claim as well.
Ness ziona
20-09-2004, 13:01
Unfortunately, I wasn't much active in the last few months, and my older threads got deleted, so no, I have no proof backing it (except from the maps in my nation's website), but I claim Greenland (I don't see it as a problem, it's not claimed here anyways).
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 13:13
Added, I've seen another post with a link to your map and such. Why are all the pre-jolt posts milled away? This makes my job even harder.
Momanguise
20-09-2004, 13:16
Added and a good claim as well.

Thank you.
Ness ziona
20-09-2004, 13:16
Added, I've seen another post with a link to your map and such. Why are all the pre-jolt posts milled away? This makes my job even harder.

Thanks.
Dr_Twist
20-09-2004, 13:59
I completely Agree with the Removal of Nianacio Claims in this Thread, he is a Very Inactive Role Player and hasn't Role played with any of these Nations for Nearly a Year RL, I believe it was time for them to be removed and have agreed to there Removal and i hope others will as well.

Also while on the Subject the Nation of Dr_Twist would like to inactive our Ancient Claims on Australia which date back over one and a Half Years Real Life time.

Dr_Twist.
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 14:11
Yeah, I talked to many old and new players alike about this and they all said the same. Roleplay in Asia is impossible thanks to an inactive guy who wants to keep his claims no matter what.
Kanabia
20-09-2004, 14:52
*Tag* I'm going to make a roleplay where I will claim the former Indo-china, Thailand and part of Indonesia (Haven't decided yet). Can I keep them on reserve? lol
Holy panooly
20-09-2004, 15:02
*Tag* I'm going to make a roleplay where I will claim the former Indo-china, Thailand and part of Indonesia (Haven't decided yet). Can I keep them on reserve? lol

Hallelujah someone starts operations in Asia! Indonesia still belongs to Nianacio but the rest is free for the taking.
Kanabia
20-09-2004, 15:23
Hallelujah someone starts operations in Asia! Indonesia still belongs to Nianacio but the rest is free for the taking.

Oh, I thought he was out of it. Well I'll edit my thread.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7066415

Good idea, btw. The maps make it so much easier.
Independent Hitmen
20-09-2004, 20:37
Free BUMP. Plus thanks Chellis.
The Japanese People
20-09-2004, 20:40
Sorry mate, already owned by somebody else. Read the list before you claim.


Come on, Nianacio is an inactive member and he claimed what my nation belongs on, my nations name is The Japanese People, I think I deserve Japan more than he does.
The Japanese People
20-09-2004, 20:42
I completely Agree with the Removal of Nianacio Claims in this Thread, he is a Very Inactive Role Player and hasn't Role played with any of these Nations for Nearly a Year RL, I believe it was time for them to be removed and have agreed to there Removal and i hope others will as well.

Also while on the Subject the Nation of Dr_Twist would like to inactive our Ancient Claims on Australia which date back over one and a Half Years Real Life time.

Dr_Twist.

Yes, he claimed many lands and many nations are 'homeless' while they deserve that land Nianacio took, I deserve all of Japan while other nations deserve what is theirs.
Jackdonia
20-09-2004, 20:56
Jackdonia will claim California!
Jackdonia
20-09-2004, 21:11
Whoosp,California is taken,so i'll take Iran,Vietnam,Indoneisa and New Guinea.
Huzen Hagen
20-09-2004, 22:14
Come on, Nianacio is an inactive member and he claimed what my nation belongs on, my nations name is The Japanese People, I think I deserve Japan more than he does.

although im not HP i think i can answer for him

you deserve nothing, if you want japan invade it. Make a thread and rp it properly, fact is you propably wouldn't be able to take on japan anyway. Read the first page, you dont just say "I want japan" you have to rp taking it, makes it fairer.

Whoosp,California is taken,so i'll take Iran,Vietnam,Indoneisa and New Guinea.

see above. You have to rp it, and again your too small to be able to succesfully take over all those countrys. both of you are likely to only hold any nation you do manage to get under your controll only as long as other people go for other nations. My advice is wait a bit and for god sake rp any claims. Just check out the links on this thread so far
Jackdonia
20-09-2004, 22:37
I am not too small a nation!
Jangle Jangle Ridge
20-09-2004, 22:42
Ah, so this is another Earth x^y^z kinda thing? Because my orbardment finger is twitching.
The Macabees
21-09-2004, 01:22
I don't think Verbotten Luftwaffe exists any more...I've tried searching for him but nothing comes up...I built up next to Portugal but he hasn't responded and since I can't find him I can't send a TM... so I think he's been deleted...so could you open Spain and all else that he owns for colonization? I really would want to RP for it.
Dr_Twist
21-09-2004, 02:27
I don't think Verbotten Luftwaffe exists any more...I've tried searching for him but nothing comes up...I built up next to Portugal but he hasn't responded and since I can't find him I can't send a TM... so I think he's been deleted...so could you open Spain and all else that he owns for colonization? I really would want to RP for it.

If he no longer Exists the Dr_Twist Government would like to State a Claim on South Italy.

OCC: Dr_Twist Military Forces have been placed on Alert.
Wazzu
21-09-2004, 02:53
Hey, thanks for getting me on here. I hadn't even seen this until now. Thanks for getting Bedou too.

Here is a more accurate map of Sweden that might help coloring of your Europe map (if you choose to change it).

http://members.cox.net/davage/images/WazzuMap.jpg

Thanks again!

-TCA
Chellis
21-09-2004, 02:55
VL existed very recently ago, so I assume he still does.

EDIT: He doesn't control western sahara, though.
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 09:21
Ah, so this is another Earth x^y^z kinda thing? Because my orbardment finger is twitching.

No, if you would have read the the first post (which you obviously didn't) then you would know this is a more in-dept version of Chelli's RL claims thread.

VL existed very recently ago, so I assume he still does.

EDIT: He doesn't control western sahara, though.

Will be changed and your territory will be added.
Guffingford
21-09-2004, 10:37
Just FYI, Guffingford claims the following in Western Africa. I'm busy with the RP here http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359029

Cape Verde Islands
Mauretania
Mali
Senegal
Gambia
Guinea-Bissau
Guinea
Sierra Leone
Liberia
Cote D'Ivore
Ghana
Togo
Benin
Burkina Faso
Faroe Islands
Shetland Islands

EDIT: forgot the Faroe and Shetland islands
Rubberduckistan
21-09-2004, 11:29
Rubberduckistan would like to claim China and Mongolia? China for Duckistan, and Mongolia for Raving Duck. (Puppet-state) Or if China can be split with Duckistan in north, and Raving Duck south.
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 11:35
Rubberduckistan would like to claim China and Mongolia? China for Duckistan, and Mongolia for Raving Duck. (Puppet-state) Or if China can be split with Duckistan in north, and Raving Duck south.You may claim the whole world but you MUST rp taking the land with resistance. Buying or annexing China doen't cut it.
Rubberduckistan
21-09-2004, 11:43
You may claim the whole world but you MUST rp taking the land with resistance. Buying or annexing China doen't cut it.

Even I´m not that megalomaniac. But then just for info, Rubberduckistan/Raving Duck will prepare imminent invasion for China and Korean-peninsula. So just others know. Thanks for the info HP. :)

Regards
Rubberduck
Kanabia
21-09-2004, 12:40
Whoosp,California is taken,so i'll take Iran,Vietnam,Indoneisa and New Guinea.

I've claimed Vietnam already, if you want it, check my RP which i posted before.
Intelligent Neighbors
21-09-2004, 12:56
I'm still bumping my RP take over of Lithuania and Belarus. Will do final bump on Sun.
Rubberduckistan
21-09-2004, 13:31
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7073210#post7073210
Here there be much fighting....
The Secular Resistance
21-09-2004, 14:53
What about a map of North America (please)?
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 14:55
What about a map of North America (please)?

Easy going, I'm still busy drawing latin america
The Secular Resistance
21-09-2004, 14:59
Easy going, I'm still busy drawing latin america

Ok then. I'll wait...
Imperial Brits
21-09-2004, 15:47
HP, just an FYI. Unified Sith has claimed Sierra Leone and will most likely take the rest of West Africa. Get ready to change those maps :)
Guffingford
21-09-2004, 15:48
HP, just an FYI. Unified Sith has claimed Sierra Leone and will most likely take the rest of West Africa. Get ready to change those maps :)

Sorry but I took it already
Imperial Brits
21-09-2004, 15:55
I see. Very well You win damn it.
Unified Sith
21-09-2004, 16:10
Anyone claiming Japan or moving to take it. As if they are i intend to take it off them.
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 16:16
STATE WHAT YOU CLAIM AND LINK TO IT. THIS MAKES MY JOB A LOT EASIER. THANK YOU
Unified Sith
21-09-2004, 16:19
OOC: OOOOOH I pissed HP off, :) Its alot easier to do than i thought. Hey maybe if i mention the evil words AMF his head will explode. Ooops i said them. Anyways HP sorry about that, in a big rush can't spend much time online right now appologies.

Anyway i have been claiming Japan and here is the link.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359269
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 16:23
OOC: OOOOOH I pissed HP off, :) Its alot easier to do than i thought. Hey maybe if i mention the evil words AMF his head will explode. Ooops i said them. Anyways HP sorry about that, in a big rush can't spend much time online right now appologies.

Anyway i have been claiming Japan and here is the link.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359269

Nah, I'm just fed up with the millions of people waving in screaming what they want without even posting a thread how they got it.
Oshima and Izu
21-09-2004, 18:11
Greetings HP; it's been a long time since our admittedly brief contact...

Anyone who can remember this nation from our time on the old forums might remember our long time claim to the Izu Islands off the Japanese coast (Note to Unified Sith and any others: I don't give a damn what happens with the mainland...)

Having been away for some time I am now busy restoring these claims which I consider to be inherent with this nation

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359119 is the most recent thread.
Holy panooly
21-09-2004, 18:20
I remember. Added to the list.
Zarbia
21-09-2004, 23:47
Zarbia claims: Tanzania, Zambia, Angola, and the western part of Egypt.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7077067#post7077067

Ch-ch-ch-ch-check it out.
Big Ten Country
22-09-2004, 00:50
Big Ten Country is in the process of claiming the U.S. states of Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7077452#post7077452
Chellis
22-09-2004, 02:07
Nah, I'm just fed up with the millions of people waving in screaming what they want without even posting a thread how they got it.

Now you know what I have to go through, every single day.
Neoma
22-09-2004, 02:30
Neoma claims
1. Chile
2. Peru
3. Ecuador
4. Panama
this is all
Guffingford
22-09-2004, 09:07
Have you even read the first post? :rolleyes:
Holy panooly
22-09-2004, 09:09
Neoma claims
1. Chile
2. Peru
3. Ecuador
4. Panama
this is all

Roleplay you taking it.

Zarbia, your thread is only one day old, make sure people recognize the claim as valid or at least make it know to people you own it by bumping it for a week or 2...
Rubberduckistan
22-09-2004, 10:28
Oh, sorry HP, hopefully there is no misunderstanding in my claim? Duckistan=Rubberduckistan/Raving Duck nation combination. Just don´t have the patience to type it every time. Apologies if I caused confusion. :)
FallschrimmJager
22-09-2004, 16:29
Tag
Bedou
22-09-2004, 16:31
Burkina Faso
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6898663&posted=1#post6898663
Holy panooly
22-09-2004, 16:40
Added Bedou's claim, Guffingfords and Intelligent Neighbors. All three are very good ones. Those kind of claims will be added, not the stupid junk I OWN IT!!!! If I see anyone doing that again I'll come over personally to drive a screwdriver into his or her thick skull
The Evil Overlord
22-09-2004, 17:48
The Dominion of the Evil Overlord has previous claims to:

New Caldeonia (S Pacific, east of Australia)- Only the southern half of the island, as well as the Kanak-occupied Loyalty islands nearby.

Easter Island (S Pacific, west of Chile)

Sala y Gomez (Easter Island's nearest neighbor)

Juan Fernandez Islands (S Pacific, west of Santiago, Chile)

Wallis and Futuna (S. Pacific, 2/3 way between Hawaii and New Zealand)

Nauru (S. Pacific, S of Marshall Islands)

Johnson Atoll (N. Pacific, 1300 km SW of Hawaii)

Jarvis Island (S. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Cook Islands)

Palmyra Atoll (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Samoa and Hawaii)

Baker Island (N. Pacific, near Howland Island)

Clipperton Island (N. Pacific, 1200 km SW of Mexico)

Cook Islands (S. Pacific, 1/2 way from Hawaii to New Zealand)

Howland Island (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Australia)


These claims were posted on one of my old threads back in March. I haven't been able to find them again since the switch to Jolt. Several of these claims were mentioned in a variety of threads- most notably Roania's acquisition of the Marianas (Pax Roania), the Desolation of Wolfish thread, the Naval War RP thread with Argyllia, and the Pacific Rim War thread (Ruhr vs California/Alaska).
Huzen Hagen
22-09-2004, 18:39
The Dominion of the Evil Overlord has previous claims to:

New Caldeonia (S Pacific, east of Australia)- Only the southern half of the island, as well as the Kanak-occupied Loyalty islands nearby.

Easter Island (S Pacific, west of Chile)

Sala y Gomez (Easter Island's nearest neighbor)

Juan Fernandez Islands (S Pacific, west of Santiago, Chile)

Wallis and Futuna (S. Pacific, 2/3 way between Hawaii and New Zealand)

Nauru (S. Pacific, S of Marshall Islands)

Johnson Atoll (N. Pacific, 1300 km SW of Hawaii)

Jarvis Island (S. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Cook Islands)

Palmyra Atoll (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Samoa and Hawaii)

Baker Island (N. Pacific, near Howland Island)

Clipperton Island (N. Pacific, 1200 km SW of Mexico)

Cook Islands (S. Pacific, 1/2 way from Hawaii to New Zealand)

Howland Island (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Australia)


These claims were posted on one of my old threads back in March. I haven't been able to find them again since the switch to Jolt. Several of these claims were mentioned in a variety of threads- most notably Roania's acquisition of the Marianas (Pax Roania), the Desolation of Wolfish thread, the Naval War RP thread with Argyllia, and the Pacific Rim War thread (Ruhr vs California/Alaska).

i can vouch for TEO's claims. subject came up in a thread a while back
Frisbeeteria
22-09-2004, 18:50
The Dominion of the Evil Overlord has previous claims to:

(a whole shitload of islands)
Assuming Holy Panooly grants your claims, you'll get about 12.5 pixels of map color (if you're lucky).

::grin::
Holy panooly
22-09-2004, 19:12
The Dominion of the Evil Overlord has previous claims to:

New Caldeonia (S Pacific, east of Australia)- Only the southern half of the island, as well as the Kanak-occupied Loyalty islands nearby.

Easter Island (S Pacific, west of Chile)

Sala y Gomez (Easter Island's nearest neighbor)

Juan Fernandez Islands (S Pacific, west of Santiago, Chile)

Wallis and Futuna (S. Pacific, 2/3 way between Hawaii and New Zealand)

Nauru (S. Pacific, S of Marshall Islands)

Johnson Atoll (N. Pacific, 1300 km SW of Hawaii)

Jarvis Island (S. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Cook Islands)

Palmyra Atoll (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Samoa and Hawaii)

Baker Island (N. Pacific, near Howland Island)

Clipperton Island (N. Pacific, 1200 km SW of Mexico)

Cook Islands (S. Pacific, 1/2 way from Hawaii to New Zealand)

Howland Island (N. Pacific, 1/2 way between Hawaii and Australia)

These claims were posted on one of my old threads back in March. I haven't been able to find them again since the switch to Jolt. Several of these claims were mentioned in a variety of threads- most notably Roania's acquisition of the Marianas (Pax Roania), the Desolation of Wolfish thread, the Naval War RP thread with Argyllia, and the Pacific Rim War thread (Ruhr vs California/Alaska).

Yeah I'm beginning to dislike all those deleted threads, I was trying to find a very old and early claim of mine on the calapagos islands but the forum transfer pruned them all away... Will be added.
Bedou
22-09-2004, 23:59
Nice maps Holy.
IDF
23-09-2004, 02:46
I have Israel, Kerguellen, Porter and Lake Counties in NW Indiana and Illinois
Holy panooly
23-09-2004, 09:54
I have Israel, Kerguellen, Porter and Lake Counties in NW Indiana and Illinois

No you don't. Western Asia owns Israel. Perhaps searching the list before you start claiming... And another thing, claiming states of the US is ok because they're bigger than countries but I ain't gonna add counties... I CLAIM WRIGLEY FIELD is the same thing ok.

And thanks Bedou!
Momanguise
23-09-2004, 15:49
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359727

Here is an unratified claim to Georgia, I won't post again until tommorow, let some reactions come out.
The Evil Overlord
23-09-2004, 21:39
i can vouch for TEO's claims. subject came up in a thread a while back

Thanks for the back-up. I was wondering if HP would believe me. He probably gets several zillion similar posts and TGs.


TEO
The Evil Overlord
23-09-2004, 21:51
Assuming Holy Panooly grants your claims, you'll get about 12.5 pixels of map color (if you're lucky).

::grin::

Probably.

I made several posts defending the practice of "claiming" RL territory in a recent thread. It's always better to have some sort of "anchor" to something everyone has in common with these free-form RP games. Since everyone knows the Earth's geography (OK, OK ... almost everyone), that's the best choice. It also gives your country a geographic "sphere of interest".

Having said that, my country (and those of a couple of my friends) is located on an imaginary, Antarctica-sized continent called Forlorn Hope in the central/southern Pacific. The islands/archipelagos I grabbed are essentially protecting my mythical homeland/continent. Just add 2000 kilometers or so (each way) to the Pacific Ocean and plop my continent into the center, with the northern portion just crossing the equator. I had to do it that way, because all the major land-masses already had nations stacked up on 'em three deep.


TEO
The Evil Overlord
23-09-2004, 21:53
Yeah I'm beginning to dislike all those deleted threads, I was trying to find a very old and early claim of mine on the calapagos islands but the forum transfer pruned them all away... Will be added.

Thank you.

BTW, Granzi controls the northern part of New Caldeonia.


TEO
Kopparbergs
24-09-2004, 05:36
Kopparbergs invading of Ecuador (incl. Galapagos Islands) and Peru (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359913).

I'm invading The Galapagos Islands, Ecuador and Peru.
Intelligent Neighbors
24-09-2004, 12:28
HP, just letting you know that me and Russian Forces are negotiating a deal that may involve the trading of Poland and Belarussia
Isochronous
24-09-2004, 13:26
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7094499

I'm quite annoyed that everything was lost when NS transferred its forums to this place. Now I have few posts, and I look like a newbie after RPing ALOT back then when I had lots of time. Now I barely have time to make a few posts!
Acores
American Samoa
Armenia
Australia (Northern Territory only)
Burma
Central Africa
Chagos Arch
Cocos Islands
Ecuador
El Salvador
Eritrea
Fiji
Georgia
Hong Kong
Kiribati
Macau
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Maldives
Monaco
New Caledonia
New Ireland
Newfoundland
Panama
Reunion
St.Helena
Sao Pedro Sao Paulo
Solomon Islands
South Georgia
South Sandwich Islands
Suqutra
Tenerife
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu

In viewing this topic I understand some have have others attempting to claim them. I'd just like you to consider my past and the fact I bowed out of the forum for a while due to time constraints among other things.
Holy panooly
24-09-2004, 13:45
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7094499

I'm quite annoyed that everything was lost when NS transferred its forums to this place. Now I have few posts, and I look like a newbie after RPing ALOT back then when I had lots of time. Now I barely have time to make a few posts!
American Samoa
Chagos Arch
Cocos Islands
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Georgia
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Maldives
New Caledonia
New Ireland
Newfoundland (already owned, I think)
Panama (Believe AU owns it, but I cannot verify this)
Reunion
Sao Pedro Sao Paulo
Solomon Islands
South Georgia
South Sandwich Islands
Suqutra
Tonga
Tuvalu
Vanuatu

I'll consider adding those who aren't claimed already. I've removed those who are already taken. To the others: I'll look into it as soon as possible.
Momanguise
24-09-2004, 13:47
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359727

Here is an unratified claim to Georgia, I won't post again until tommorow, let some reactions come out.

Just making sure you're aware of this.

Thanks.
Porto Calus
24-09-2004, 14:14
I would like to claim
algola, zambia, ruanda, burundi, and tanzania
congo, central african rep., equatorial guinea and cameroon
is that possible yet?
Joao from Porto Calus
Wolf America
24-09-2004, 14:16
I would like to claim
algola, zambia, ruanda, burundi, and tanzania
congo, central african rep., equatorial guinea and cameroon
is that possible yet?
Joao from Porto Calus

Read the rules.
Unified Sith
24-09-2004, 15:39
You must make an rp of taking those territories. You cannot simply go there mine as the native certainly won't agree to it. You must make a military rp of taking them.
Holy panooly
24-09-2004, 16:01
They never learn... It seems our esteemed friend Verboten Lufftewaffe is going to die in two days so that means his claims will be removed. Just a heads up.
Intelligent Neighbors
24-09-2004, 16:38
HP, Russian Forces and I have come to an agreement, basically we are 'trading' Poland and Belarus. In addition we are declaring a 'free access' zone in a thin corridor between his Belarus and his tiny portion of land on the coast, so we can both use the land.

I think we are assuming, IC wise, that the people of Poland would prefer to be right wing, and the people of Belarus left wing. This leads to tension and so the nations agree to exchange the land, thereby giving the people what they want.

Russian forces is fine with this and it would be very much appreciated if you could edit the map accordingly.

Many Thanks.
Greenmanbry
24-09-2004, 16:50
OOC: I believe the nation of Menelcamar was deleted for inactivity. Could someone please verify this before I claim a portion of his land?
Holy panooly
24-09-2004, 16:54
This thread is OOC, you don't need those tags.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=menelmacar deleted for inactivity eh?

Changed and added everything else that needed to be changed or added. I hope...
Intelligent Neighbors
24-09-2004, 17:37
Thanks Hp, but you need to update the text for Europe, you did not change mine and RF's swap.

Also Chellis *hiss* is apparently 'looking after' Verbotten Luftwaffe's land.
Rubberduckistan
24-09-2004, 19:05
Rubberduckistan is contesting the Kanabia´s claim to Hainan, as we see it as part of China. No response for our post yet, though.
Arenumberg
24-09-2004, 19:18
What is currently unclaimed, as i need a foothold and will gladly RP the rise of the whatever is rising, lol :), id even do it in this thread!
Nianacio
24-09-2004, 20:14
Yea, I've been very inactive lately. I've been looking for a way to get back on the international scene, but Nianacio is a goody-two-shoes nation and I can't find anyone being evil enough for me to intervene. :D
hasn't Role played with any of these Nations for Nearly a Year RL.Any time I post IC, they're being involved, as they're where my government is.
he claimed what my nation belongs on, my nations name is The Japanese People, I think I deserve Japan more than he does.I didn't merely claim it...It's been part of my nation since its founding about a thousand years ago.

Holy panooly, if you want to on this list give me two nations, it should probably be Indonesia and Papua New Guinea, as my people are originally (many thousand years ago) from the Papuan highlands.
The Evil Overlord
24-09-2004, 20:34
Yea, I've been very inactive lately. I've been looking for a way to get back on the international scene, but Nianacio is a goody-two-shoes nation and I can't find anyone being evil enough for me to intervene. :D

Holy panooly, if you want to on this list give me two nations, it should probably be Indonesia and Papua New Guinea, as my people are originally (many thousand years ago) from the Papuan highlands.

I thought you also controlled New Zealand (which is the reason I didn't occupy it myself). I just sent a TG to Wolf America on the subject.

TEO
Nianacio
25-09-2004, 02:40
I thought you also controlled New Zealand (which is the reason I didn't occupy it myself).I do, but Holy panooly took off most of my nation.

In case anyone cares, this (http://members.aol.com/dalecoz/alt1098.htm) is how Papua became a superpower.
Margorn
25-09-2004, 02:52
I'd be happy with either Cameroon or Ethiopia. Preferably Cameroon since it has a coast.
Kopparbergs
25-09-2004, 06:56
I'd be happy with either Cameroon or Ethiopia. Preferably Cameroon since it has a coast.

When you want a nation, you follow these simple steps:

1) Check the first page in this thread, read the rules.

2) On the first page there's a list with already claimed countries. If the country that you want is on the list, well then somebody already has it.

3) If it's not on the list, search the whole thread. Maybe someone else has began a thread where they are invading the country, but it's not finished yet.

4) If the nations name is not mentioned somewhere in the thread, then you can start a new thread where you invade the country you want to have. After that - post a new message in this thread with a link to your newly started thread where you invade the country, and tell everyone that you're about to invade the country.

5) After one to two weeks you may be given the country - if no one hasn't disputed your invasion (or something like it).
Hamptonshire
25-09-2004, 07:05
I'd be happy with either Cameroon or Ethiopia. Preferably Cameroon since it has a coast.

Cameroon is strictly off limits, its independence is ensured by both Hamptonshire and Chellis.

HP- If it is at all possible can you make a note in the claims that states that Cameroon's sovereignity and independence are protected and guarenteed by Hamptonshire and Chellis. That should keep people from making Cameroon claims without RPing it properly.
Hamptonshire
25-09-2004, 07:13
Guffingford's "claims" to Spain are being actively challenged by myself.

And HP, for a thread that claims to be "Fair to Everyone", you seem to allow Guffingford to very quickly claim lands. His RPs taking his European territories are a post or two that allow no one to respond. Such claims are dubious at best and the "official" sanction you have given those claims taints an otherwise fairly objective claiming process.
Holy panooly
25-09-2004, 09:54
@ Nianacio my apologies because I removed your claims but I received a lot of TG's from people who thought how Asia was divided isn't fair to others. That made me do it. Roycelandia always RP'ed he owned it, and in fact, after I removed your claims many others claimed a part of your lands.

@ Hamptonshire I'll make a note about it.
Huzen Hagen
25-09-2004, 11:44
Guffingford's "claims" to Spain are being actively challenged by myself.

And HP, for a thread that claims to be "Fair to Everyone", you seem to allow Guffingford to very quickly claim lands. His RPs taking his European territories are a post or two that allow no one to respond. Such claims are dubious at best and the "official" sanction you have given those claims taints an otherwise fairly objective claiming process.

That generally the same with most people. HP is puttign up alot of claims that dont even have threads to back them up becuase they have been deleted. If you want to challenge his claims continue what your doing and use force
Bedou
25-09-2004, 15:11
Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan.
Huzen Hagens Claims to Kyrgyzstan immediately fell into dispute in the thread he links.
Fell into dispute by the NAtions who support my later claim as I RP,d taking control from:
1.Daylam the Active claimant.
2.I used military force and diplomacy to negotiate it from other Active interests.
Given that the claims of Kelonian States, Daylam and Guerrillistan are even older, I might suggest we do as they did, you RP owning Kyrgyzstan/I RP owning Kyrgyzstan, and we dont RP together with either of us owning it. Or we can argue. what ever.
Huzen Hagens claims to Kyrgyzstan:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336146&page=1&pp=15

Bedou Claims to Kygyzstan and Tajikistan:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334938&page=15&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=325225 13th post down
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=4&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=3&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6834709#post6834709

I can provide more if I go digging through enough profiles and Archives if it is needed.
Guffingford
25-09-2004, 15:37
HP can you make a map of Spain to give a more detailed view for the RP? You know the url.
Holy panooly
25-09-2004, 15:41
Guffingford's "claims" to Spain are being actively challenged by myself.

And HP, for a thread that claims to be "Fair to Everyone", you seem to allow Guffingford to very quickly claim lands. His RPs taking his European territories are a post or two that allow no one to respond. Such claims are dubious at best and the "official" sanction you have given those claims taints an otherwise fairly objective claiming process.

You know why I added them after a week or so? In Chellis' thread they were vacant for months without anyone caring about them. His claims on Scandinavia were open for a week and everybody can attack him to take it back. The reason people didn't took it is because the interested people already got in earth whatever. Hell, the nations who are on the list aren't tied to the land their whole life. I'm listing it, I'm not giving it to people. And keep in mind, this thread in its current form is not even near 70% accurate. I have to admit, I was rather fast with adding his claims. But the minute I made this thread I was flooded with messages on MSN and TG's to add whatever... It's still quite a chaos. I'm trying the best I can to make is good for everyone.

Thanks to the nice jolt administration all pre-jolt threads are deleted or pruned away. I looked in the archives (why it is stuffed away from public view is a mystery) and it's all gone.

@ Guff, will be done.
Free Hackers
25-09-2004, 15:50
I would like to take (South America) CHILE, PERU and ECUADOR.

Thank you.

Predius of The Free Hackers
Kopparbergs
25-09-2004, 16:26
I would like to take (South America) CHILE, PERU and ECUADOR.

Thank you.

Predius of The Free Hackers

You don't just "take" countries in this thread. Read the first page and the rules. Also read my previous post earlier today.

Also, I've already invaded Peru and Ecuador, but the claims is not recognized yet because they are so young.

As far as I know, nobody has stated that they want Chile, but that may be wrong. Search the thread.
Huzen Hagen
25-09-2004, 16:57
confuzzling post

so basicly what your saying is that we sort of share it? We both rp with it but if we were to rp together it doesnt exist?
Margorn
25-09-2004, 18:21
First of all both of the nations I wanted have been claimed or disputed. Secondly I'm not a dimwit I both checked the map and the disputed claims area. Thridly (bad grammer, but right now I could really careless,) I have seen no rules in the begining "rules" post that says anything about posting an invasion since I currently would have no where to invade from. So all these posts that have been attempting to put me down just because I joined this month were completely useless in adverting my claims. Also it seems the ones who are verbally attacking my claims are also the ones that claimed an extermely large chunk of land. All I want is a little place to RP from, is that so much to ask?

Edit: sorry I misread the post with the "simple steps" on it. It seems the only one with a problem with my wanting of Cameroon is Chiles and he already has more territory the the RL America or Russia.
IDF
25-09-2004, 18:40
When will you get around to giving me NW Indiana and Illinois? Western Asia did claim Israel on Chellis' thread, but I haven't seen WA post in ages so maybe you should give the land to someone who actually RPs.
The Evil Overlord
25-09-2004, 18:47
Evil Overlord Enterprises is currently disputing Kopparberg's acquisition of the Galapagos Islands.

I have already TG'd him and posted on the appropriate thread.


TEO
Margorn
25-09-2004, 19:04
Erm, where exactly is this "appropriate thread"? I was under the imperrsion that you just posted a thread of how you gained control of the territory and if none dispute the claim then the territory becomes yours.
The Evil Overlord
25-09-2004, 19:25
Erm, where exactly is this "appropriate thread"? I was under the imperrsion that you just posted a thread of how you gained control of the territory and if none dispute the claim then the territory becomes yours.

There is a link to Kopparberg's thread in his post here. Check your TGs.

TEO
Nianacio
25-09-2004, 19:56
That made me do it.You weren't forced to, but I understand your reasons.
Roycelandia always RP'ed he owned itI have (and will continue to) RPed owning it since looong before Roycelandia even existed.
and in fact, after I removed your claims many others claimed a part of your lands.Naturally. They thought there was no big nation occupying the land, so they moved in.
Thanks to the nice jolt administration all pre-jolt threads are deleted or pruned away. I looked in the archives (why it is stuffed away from public view is a mystery) and it's all gone.When did they do that? Soon after the move I could find some posts of mine from early '03. :(
Inkana
25-09-2004, 20:10
Turkey
EDIT: Whoops, forgot about my other claims:North Cyrprus, and the tip of morocco.
Zarbia
25-09-2004, 23:15
I would like to claim
algola, zambia, tanzania is that possible yet?


Nope. Unless you want to dispute my claims in which I would own you.
Margorn
25-09-2004, 23:33
As required I'm posting the link to the thread in which Margorn (which was just a large group of revolutionaries) finally takes over Cameroon.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360249
Hamptonshire
26-09-2004, 00:05
As required I'm posting the link to the thread in which Margorn (which was just a large group of revolutionaries) finally takes over Cameroon.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360249

Cameroon is currently under protection of a multi-national Peacekeeping Force and the sovereignity of Cameroon is guarenteed by Hamptonshire and Chellis.

Unless you want to duke it out, nice RP but no go.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 00:10
As said in the thread, you guys have enough territory as it is. What's the point in guarding unclaimed territory? Is it because you want to piss off people or is it beacuase you have nothing better to do than to pick fights with people?
Hamptonshire
26-09-2004, 00:15
As said in the thread, you guys have enough territory as it is. What's the point in guarding unclaimed territory? Is it because you want to piss off people or is it beacuase you have nothing better to do than to pick fights with people?

You weren't around when the situation happened. Cameroon is claimed by neither of us, it is an independent nation that we have pledged to keep independent.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 00:17
Fine then I'll just go change it to Ethiopia then, unless your "protecting" there too?
Margorn
26-09-2004, 02:07
Because of major political issues Margorn give up all previous claims in Africa.

However, the seemingly unclaimed land of Kazakhstan would be a nice begining place for the Holy Empire of Margorn. Please post any problems with this so I can consider them BEFORE I write a lengthy take over RP.
Japanese States
26-09-2004, 04:15
i know i should post this in CorpSac but im lazy anyway Scotlands up for grabs since CorpSac went into Space along time ago, so its first come first gets unless an ally decides they want it.

and also this post macks my Reservered space for my claim of Japan what i shall post shortly then wait a day or 2 then post the link in this spot...if i get it that is :P you never know with RPs

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7106306#post7106306
Hamptonshire
26-09-2004, 04:18
i know i should post this in CorpSac but im lazy anyway Scotlands up for grabs since CorpSac went into Space along time ago, so its first come first gets unless an ally decides they want it.

and also this post macks my Reservered space for my claim of Japan what i shall post shortly then wait a day or 2 then post the link in this spot...if i get it that is :P you never know with RPs

Japanese States has decided to hand over Scotland to Hamptonshire as per our agreement.
Japanese States
26-09-2004, 05:00
you mean CorpSac/Japanese States has agreed and yes i have but if you want me to post this in CorpSac then your going to have to wait since im writeing up the invasion of Japan in Japanese States.
Roycelandia
26-09-2004, 08:43
I beleive that United Elias claims, and RPs, controlling Brunei as a Protectorate.
Scoyle
26-09-2004, 11:48
Just a heads up I am going to be conquering Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina in a couple of days. Now if you have any problems please let me know or if you know that I would get the S*** kicked outta me please let me know by TG. Thank you for your time.
Porto Calus
26-09-2004, 14:21
sorry
I didnt undestand this
"i. Show your claims in this thread, but do not claim land itself. Link to it and I'll review it with the help of others."
what do you mean?
Joao from Porto Calus
Dr_Twist
26-09-2004, 14:35
The Dr_Twist Government has sent 20,000 Troops into South Italy under an Agreement with VL from the Dr_Twist Civil war, The Nation has been Automatically Handed over into Dr_Twist Hands.

Dr_Twist.
Praetonia
26-09-2004, 14:40
Because of major political issues Margorn give up all previous claims in Africa.

However, the seemingly unclaimed land of Kazakhstan would be a nice begining place for the Holy Empire of Margorn. Please post any problems with this so I can consider them BEFORE I write a lengthy take over RP.
Can I please note that these aren't 'unclaimed lands'. Have you not heard of Earth? You know, the planet we live on. It is inhabited already. Therefore the land is actually claimed by the people who already live there. This thread isn't a 'claims thread' and HP isnt 'giving land to people', this is just a thread which stores inofrmation about which RL landmasses are controlled by which NS nations.
Praetonia
26-09-2004, 14:47
OOC: Is Sardinia contested? If it isn't then i'll write up an RP invasion.
Rubberduckistan
26-09-2004, 15:24
Rubberduckistan has agreed to hand the Korea´s to Arenumberg, so they can start their own claim-RP.
Holy panooly
26-09-2004, 15:29
OOC: Is Sardinia contested? If it isn't then i'll write up an RP invasion.

I've just been informed Twist owns it... And well said prea
Dr_Twist
26-09-2004, 16:18
The Vatican City in Rome has Been Handed over to Guffingford in a move of Goodwill by Dr_Twist.
Holy panooly
26-09-2004, 16:21
The Vatican City in Rome has Been Handed over to Guffingford in a move of Goodwill by Dr_Twist.

Added, updated, changed, ratified, verified, improved...
Praetonia
26-09-2004, 16:23
I've just been informed Twist owns it... And well said prea
Ah ok, and thanks.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 17:31
The link to the thread stateing the creation of Margorn in Kazakhastan. Please disregard the other thread requesting Cameroon/ Ethiopia, that was a huge mistake.

Link (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360510)
Bedou
26-09-2004, 18:04
The link to the thread stateing the creation of Margorn in Kazakhastan. Please disregard the other thread requesting Cameroon/ Ethiopia, that was a huge mistake.

Link (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360510)
The Granzi control Kazakstan, they also Allow the Bedou movement in southern Kazakstan so prepared to enforce thier claim over yours militarily.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 18:07
Sorry buddy, but I see no claims to Kazakhstan. Quote your "proof" and i may be presuaded to actually believe you.
Bedou
26-09-2004, 18:08
so basicly what your saying is that we sort of share it? We both rp with it but if we were to rp together it doesnt exist?
Well, I would be willing if we Rp together to say you own it, but allow my nomads to use/cross the land in return for trade and Bedou military support.
Since you would still be my neighbor(to tajikistan) you would just acknowledging my peoples nomadic lifestyle and taking advandtage of a free military boost.
Sound good?
it is what Granzi does with Kazakstan.
Bedou
26-09-2004, 18:12
Sorry buddy, but I see no claims to Kazakhstan. Quote your "proof" and i may be presuaded to actually believe you.
I am not your buddy, first of all.
second Granzi's claims are in the list of threads my own claims are in-real RPs and not made up stories just for claiming land.
Reguardless, if you get the land, I will invade it and give it back to Granzi.
I dont need to presuade you, I will take it from you.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 18:12
Of course I would be kind enough to let your people cross my border freely! I may have taken control of a nation just recently, but that doesn't mean that I am not benevolent (I think that's the word I'm thinking of.) Your peoples are allowed into the lands of Margorn at any time, as long as they do not prove to be a threat.
Bedou
26-09-2004, 18:14
Bedou Claims to Kygyzstan and Tajikistan:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334938&page=15&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=325225 13th post down
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=4&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=3&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6834709#post6834709

I can provide more if I go digging through enough profiles and Archives if it is needed.
Granzi's posts are here.
And in other threads I will happy to provide, back off n00b.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 18:17
I am not your buddy, first of all.
second Granzi's claims are in the list of threads my own claims are in-real RPs and not made up stories just for claiming land.
Reguardless, if you get the land, I will invade it and give it back to Granzi.
I dont need to presuade you, I will take it from you.

Ah, so you'd prefer to fight a long and grusome battle over a land that is shown to have no claim then to just let me have it? Heh, if this guy wants his land so badly he can post about. I'm sick of you spokesman nations talking for other people.
Margorn
26-09-2004, 18:20
I believe he spoke of Krygystan not of Kazakhastan. If you want to call me a N00b thats fine by me, tohugh I have been watching and observing how this board works probably longer than most of these people have before their first RPs.

EDIT: also if you are thinking this is another one of those earth's you are mistaken.
Bedou
26-09-2004, 21:37
No he didnt mention Kyrgyz, that was HAzen, Granzi in the links I provided has legit claim. Older then yours. If you would read you could see.
However, more the point.
I apologize, it is not my claim.
It is up to Granzi to protest, not me.
I dont hold a claim to the land beyound my RPd nomadic usage.
Sorry, had a little piss in my cornflakes this morning.
However ignoring others RPs is a n00bish not a newish thing to do, bad form.
I do again apologize for making an arguement that was not my place to do so.
I also apologize to HP for flaming in his thread.
We all have bad days.
The Evil Overlord
26-09-2004, 23:18
Can I please note that these aren't 'unclaimed lands'. Have you not heard of Earth? You know, the planet we live on. It is inhabited already. Therefore the land is actually claimed by the people who already live there. This thread isn't a 'claims thread' and HP isnt 'giving land to people', this is just a thread which stores inofrmation about which RL landmasses are controlled by which NS nations.

Well said.

For those nations interested in occupying/controlling RL territories, I recommend the following courses of action:

1- Check this thread to make sure the territory isn't already claimed.

2- Check Chellis' RL Nation Claims thread and check the same thing again.

3- If the territory you want is not claimed by anyone in either thread, post something to the effect that your External Security Department has been studying the territory as a target for potential expansion. Follow this up with several posts detailing your military buildup and the tactics you use to invade/infiltrate the territory. Make sure you give other players the opportunity to object or intervene (in other words, don't post the thread as a Private or [/i]solo[/i] RP). Since just about every square meter of the Earth's surface is being watched by somebody, take it as read that anyone with the desire and ability to find out about your activity will do so.

4- If the territory is already claimed, then contact the current owner and find out what tech level he/she is operating. If that person is using magic or ubertech and you're not, then there is no conflict between your claim and theirs. If you are both using the same technology for your RP's, then you'll either have to take it from the current owner by force or find another territory and start over.

5- Whether or not the territory is already claimed, you will still have to start and continue a thread detailing either your occupation/annexation/invasion of the territory or your conquest of the territory from the current owner. In either case, you'll still have to keep the post active for a week or so to satisfy HP's criteria for claiming.

Aside from the significant value as an information tool for roleplaying, these threads do have an excellent fringe benefit:
They force players to interact with people who they otherwise wouldn't notice. As long as everyone keeps their tempers and has fun, that alone is worth the price of admission.

Sorry for the rant, HP

TEO
Margorn
26-09-2004, 23:32
No he didnt mention Kyrgyz, that was HAzen, Granzi in the links I provided has legit claim. Older then yours. If you would read you could see.
However, more the point.
I apologize, it is not my claim.
It is up to Granzi to protest, not me.
I dont hold a claim to the land beyound my RPd nomadic usage.
Sorry, had a little piss in my cornflakes this morning.
However ignoring others RPs is a n00bish not a newish thing to do, bad form.
I do again apologize for making an arguement that was not my place to do so.
I also apologize to HP for flaming in his thread.
We all have bad days.

Well though his claims may be legit, he is not on the approved list thus he doesn't control that mass of land in this. You are probably thinking of one of the earths. You tell Granzi to sort this out, cause frankly I'm sick of these little messenger nations telling me where my place is.
Hamptonshire
26-09-2004, 23:58
Well said.

For those nations interested in occupying/controlling RL territories, I recommend the following courses of action:

1- Check this thread to make sure the territory isn't already claimed.

2- Check Chellis' RL Nation Claims thread and check the same thing again.

3- If the territory you want is not claimed by anyone in either thread, post something to the effect that your External Security Department has been studying the territory as a target for potential expansion. Follow this up with several posts detailing your military buildup and the tactics you use to invade/infiltrate the territory. Make sure you give other players the opportunity to object or intervene (in other words, don't post the thread as a Private or [/i]solo[/i] RP). Since just about every square meter of the Earth's surface is being watched by somebody, take it as read that anyone with the desire and ability to find out about your activity will do so.

4- If the territory is already claimed, then contact the current owner and find out what tech level he/she is operating. If that person is using magic or ubertech and you're not, then there is no conflict between your claim and theirs. If you are both using the same technology for your RP's, then you'll either have to take it from the current owner by force or find another territory and start over.

5- Whether or not the territory is already claimed, you will still have to start and continue a thread detailing either your occupation/annexation/invasion of the territory or your conquest of the territory from the current owner. In either case, you'll still have to keep the post active for a week or so to satisfy HP's criteria for claiming.

Aside from the significant value as an information tool for roleplaying, these threads do have an excellent fringe benefit:
They force players to interact with people who they otherwise wouldn't notice. As long as everyone keeps their tempers and has fun, that alone is worth the price of admission.

Sorry for the rant, HP

TEO


Very well said. Everyone involved with this thread and claims should read this, especially a certain person who I've been forced to TG.

Chelli's thread is the standard, a standard which has yet to be met.
Granzi
27-09-2004, 01:01
Granzi had several months ago taken control of Kazakhstan in the campaign against Daylam. (Back in June) At that time, the area was under anarchy, and so Granzian forces moved into the nations and began restoring peace and order. We also reached an agreement with the Bedou where upon they had use of the land, as nomads, for a pledge in which they promised to also defend the land.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334938&page=12&pp=15
(from page 12 onwards, starting on post 172)

General Demark slowly breathed in the brisk desert breeze. Before him were arrayed the battle-ready soldiers of the 2nd and 3rd Armored Divisions. Over the past week, Demark had carefully laid the battleplans that would grant Granzian troops Southern Kazakhstan, currenly under the sway of numerous bands of warlords. Th bulk of his army had regrouped at the border city of Huochen, ready for the initial thrust in the former Daylami empire.

From his foward command center at Yining, Demark would coordinate the various attacks. The 2nd and 3rd Armored Divisions would serve as the vanguard, leading a lightning blitzkreig down the main road toward the junction at Saryozek. Closely follwing would be the 11th, 13th Light Armor, 22nd, and 29th Mechanized Divisions. The entire attack would be channeled into an arrow point narrow enough to proved a concentrated front, while maintaining a wide enough frontier to safeguard against counterattacks.

Meanwhile, a secondary operation would commence 300 miles to the north, begiinig at the Xinjiang city of Tacheng. The 5th Armored Division would strike first in this sector, after which the 14th Light Armor and 24th Mechanized would dispose of any remaining resistance. The 67th Airborne is to land near the city of Zharkent on the path of the main thrust to secure the vital crossroads there. All in all, any forces would be caught in gigantic pincer, and eliminated from the battlefield.

At precisely 10:20, it began. Hundreds of tanks roared across the border to the sound of artillery booming out the attack. Border defense were relatively light, and the flatter terrain ideal for armored vehicles to cross. In the city of Zharkent, the rat-tat-tat of machine gun fire ran rife through the city blocks, as the elite 67th battle insurgents for control of the main throughfares. The attack bogged down in several areas, where teams of infantry fought by blowning through one house to the next.

Any organized resistance was immediately bombed and straffed by Granzian aircraft based in Xinjiang. Batteries of mortars and heavy cannons were brought to the front and continued to shell enemy positions. At the end of the first day, lead elements have arrived at Zharkent's outskirts, though firefights erupted at several quarters. The city of Maqanshy in the north had been occupied by Granzian troops as well.

Another thread, in the aftermath of Daylam:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=3&pp=15
(starts page 3, post 38)

Agafath, Kazakhstan

General Demark had been following the continuous stand-off in Xinjiang with interest. This morning, he had been dining in the main hall when the daily intel report come in. After dismissing the guards from the door, he settled down to read. Over the past month, an increased international presence had surfaced in the desert. A multitude of nations, most of which he had never encountered began sending reinforcements to Hudecia. It was something Demark had mixed feelings about.

On one hand, they had prevented further rash acts by the Sinoese, which he noted, was being washed down with a storm of propaganda. However, he had his doubts if increased action would improve the situation in the long term. Not that his forces could be of much assistance right now. Granzian troops were stretched thin over the vast expanse of Kazakhstan, and peace talks with the Bedou had yet to occur. Only then could the Granzian leave from the south.

Finishing his danish, the General rose and proceeded to the Comm Center. "Put out a transmission to the Hudecians, ask them if we could be of assistance in any way possible," he called to the operator on duty. He then turned to an aide. "Alert his majesty, the Sultan, that negotiations are open for his homeland, and that we would prefer them to begin as soon as possible. Tell him to proceed to Conference Hall when his excellence is ready. Understood?"

"Yes sir!"

This actually does concern the Bedou, as many members of thier tribe reside in Kazakhstan.
Granzi
27-09-2004, 01:16
OOC: I also dispute Rubberduckistan's claims to China. As you can see from the link, I am currently involved in the RP with him.
Chellis
27-09-2004, 01:34
The Vatican City in Rome has Been Handed over to Guffingford in a move of Goodwill by Dr_Twist.

If he wants a large amount of ash, sure...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341242

Start on Post #129 if you don't wanna search. Basically, I fire-bombed Vatican and obliterated it. HSoC acknowledged it. VL accepted it, even, when I talked to him on MSN when it happened. Of course, this is OOC, and IC this was a terrorist act by Libya which prompted the Chellian invasion.
Kopparbergs
27-09-2004, 03:35
Just a simple question to HP:

My claim of Peru and Ecuador is not on the "UNCONFIRMED These claims have yet to be confirmed or are pending to be added"-list. The same goes for TEO's claim of Galapagos Islands (that I also claims in the same thread, but we will work this out).

The thread is here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359913

Is it because it's too young (but older than Margorns claim of Kazakhstan that's on the list, thread started 24 sep), or is it another problem? Please tell me if something is wrong.

If it's not there because of your lack of time, I apologize...

Thanks!
Hamptonshire
27-09-2004, 03:53
Just a simple question to HP:

My claim of Peru and Ecuador is not on the "UNCONFIRMED These claims have yet to be confirmed or are pending to be added"-list. The same goes for TEO's claim of Galapagos Islands (that I also claims in the same thread, but we will work this out).

The thread is here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359913

Is it because it's too young (but older than Margorns claim of Kazakhstan that's on the list, thread started 24 sep), or is it another problem? Please tell me if something is wrong.

If it's not there because of your lack of time, I apologize...

Thanks!

You have to have a thread going, with ample opportunity for people to comment, for at least two weeks.
Dr_Twist
27-09-2004, 03:57
If he wants a large amount of ash, sure...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341242

Start on Post #129 if you don't wanna search. Basically, I fire-bombed Vatican and obliterated it. HSoC acknowledged it. VL accepted it, even, when I talked to him on MSN when it happened. Of course, this is OOC, and IC this was a terrorist act by Libya which prompted the Chellian invasion.

OCC: hehehehehe, it anit my mess to clean up, lol
Momanguise
27-09-2004, 09:09
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359727

Here is an unratified claim to Georgia, I won't post again until tommorow, let some reactions come out.

Once again......(sorry about the crap title on the thread, I've tried to change it)
Momanguise
27-09-2004, 09:23
Actually the link is http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360708 . Sorry about that.
Spira_1
27-09-2004, 09:28
Is Australia taken, if not, I claim it please. Im willing to divide it aswell.
Margorn
27-09-2004, 12:59
I find it odd, Granzi, that your name can be found nowhere on the claimed list nor on the unclaimed list.
Granzi
27-09-2004, 20:39
I find it odd, Granzi, that your name can be found nowhere on the claimed list nor on the unclaimed list.

Your point is...?

That's most likely since HP hasn't logged on since I posted.
Rubberduckistan
27-09-2004, 21:31
Delete all Rubberduckistan´s claims. I don´t have time for this stuff, that´s all.
Margorn
27-09-2004, 22:59
Your point is...?

That's most likely since HP hasn't logged on since I posted.

Actually if you had actually followed the procedure then you might be up there. Ironically that makes my claim older than yours, since (as I see it) you haven't even posted your claim here.
Granzi
28-09-2004, 00:17
Look, Margorn, I do not know what you are talking about. I have posted my claims (post 170), and linked to it. I have not done my claiming process here, but in a separate thread. I have not flamed, spammed, or done anything which constitutes to abuse. The way I see it, you are needlessly spamming this thread with baseless arguments. Why not let HP decide?
Margorn
28-09-2004, 00:43
If by spam you mean debate my claim to an area so I can RP on these forums. Yes I now do see your claim that is slightly older than mine. I will wait for HP to give his final decision before I say anything further.
Guffingford
28-09-2004, 17:53
HP I talked to Intelligent Neighbors and he agrees to hand over Poland to me in exchange for the Spanish provinces and Iceland. I know Spain isn't listed to anyone at the moment but it's ok.
Holy panooly
28-09-2004, 17:59
Noted... Momanguise Georgia has been added however, it's still contested. Sort of... or something. Whatever. I'll add the map of Latin America tomorrow or tonight. China has been removed and a new rule added.

That's all.
Imperial Brits
28-09-2004, 18:00
Sparten claims China and the Philippines. Threads located here http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361011

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360864
Arenumberg
28-09-2004, 18:50
HP, do you have any IM programs i could reach you on? TG me if you do, if you dont, nevermind.

Im actually in a invasion of Korea at the moment, :) http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthrea...201#post7115201

I was going to support Rubberduckistans invasion after, but thanks to most, seems irrelevent now.

YAY 666th post!
Axis Nova
28-09-2004, 19:16
I recognize IDF's claim to Israel, seeing as he's been RPing as them pretty much forever.

HP, we all know damn well you're ignoring IDF's claim simply because you don't like him.

edit: gah spelling ><
Holy panooly
28-09-2004, 19:30
I recognize IDF's claim to Israel, seeing as he's been RPing as them pretty much forever.

HP, we all know damn well you're ignoring IDF's claim simply because you doin't like him.

Western Asia got it first. When he dies, IDF will get it without the hassle of RPing it. Happy now? I AM NOT REMOVING CLAIMS RANDOMLY BECAUSE PEOPLE HAPPEN TO RP WITH A NATION THEY LIKE.
Japanese States
28-09-2004, 22:42
ok im annoyed, i posted the link to my invasion of japan (i admit i had only started to invade but i still provided the link) then out of the blue US gets japan im annoyed i saw his claim but it was a day or so after mine (dont know when he posted it) i want to know WTF happened?
Japanese States
28-09-2004, 22:50
btw Sparten and Unified Sith are the same person Coreworlds will back me up on that claim.
CoreWorlds
28-09-2004, 22:59
Yes I can. Because I know the guy through MSN.
Margorn
28-09-2004, 23:07
Granzi, I'm getting the feeling HP is avoiding the task of ending our dispute. Also, I wanted to know your earliest claim so that I have an idea of where I stand in this issue. I still find it odd that you would not be on the claimed or the disputed/unclaimed areas in the first post.

EDIT: Dang, now my unconfrimed claim has dissapeared!
Granzi
28-09-2004, 23:30
June 18th.

HP, could we have a ruling please?
Japanese States
28-09-2004, 23:34
you might want to wait till he gets online first :P, anyway i want to know what others think of US useing his puppet nation to claim lands that funny thing is are around japan....smells funny to me.
Margorn
28-09-2004, 23:36
June 18th? Dang, how bout a comprimise? I get all of Kazakhstan west of 60 degrees vertical (much smaller part,) and you get the rest. If that doesn't work out for you, I'll try to figure something else out.
Zarbia
29-09-2004, 01:50
Hey HP, What happened to my claims in Africa?

It seems that you removed me from the pending claims list..
St John Hospitaller
29-09-2004, 02:05
The Order of St John Hospitaller would like to humbly request that Western Asia declines its claim to Malta. We have historic ties there (The capital is named for one of our Grandmasters) and it is very important to us.
Bedou
29-09-2004, 03:41
June 18th? Dang, how bout a comprimise? I get all of Kazakhstan west of 60 degrees vertical (much smaller part,) and you get the rest. If that doesn't work out for you, I'll try to figure something else out.
Stop begging.
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 08:40
MAIL OR TG THE OWNER AND STOP BEGGING HERE.

IDF I'll add your name and Israel as pending. If WA comes in AIM I'll explain it to him. Zarbia, you need to RP your claims, one post isn't good enough. I don't care if puppets take land. As long it's a good RP it is recognized. Japanese States, go away. You're way too small to take a country like Japan. Margorn, there are too many things wrong with that claim. I have no idea what Bedou has to do with it, but it's probably something important.

EDIT: I heard TROUSRS gave up his claim on the the UK and gave them to Unified Sith because of his outstanding future tech RP's. Can someone verify this? I somehow doubt it. If nobody objects then I'll add it to his name. When I'm wrong I'll turn it back the way it was.
Hamptonshire
29-09-2004, 08:52
EDIT: I heard TROUSRS gave up his claim on the the UK and gave them to Unified Sith because of his outstanding future tech RP's. Can someone verify this? I somehow doubt it. If nobody objects then I'll add it to his name. When I'm wrong I'll turn it back the way it was.

Unless the owner makes a post somewhere, you can't really make a change in territory based on conjecture.
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 08:58
Unless the owner makes a post somewhere, you can't really make a change in territory based on conjecture.

True. I've mailed him about this but it seems his current e-mail adress (trousrs@hotmail.com) is no longer functioning. TGed him too but he's gone for almost 2 weeks
Unified Sith
29-09-2004, 10:12
OOC: His E-mail still down? damn, its been like that for a few weeks now, even before my small vacation from NS. I remember him saying something about giving me the UK as he was leaving something like that, but he just left so i just forgot about it.

I have tried to E-mail him several times, however his account and therefore his ability to appear on msn just is not working. I will try to E-mail him again, hopefully it will work so this matter can be sorted out. I will try to E-mail him again, but i doubt it will work.
Margorn
29-09-2004, 13:10
MAIL OR TG THE OWNER AND STOP BEGGING HERE.

IDF I'll add your name and Israel as pending. If WA comes in AIM I'll explain it to him. Zarbia, you need to RP your claims, one post isn't good enough. I don't care if puppets take land. As long it's a good RP it is recognized. Japanese States, go away. You're way too small to take a country like Japan. Margorn, there are too many things wrong with that claim. I have no idea what Bedou has to do with it, but it's probably something important.

EDIT: I heard TROUSRS gave up his claim on the the UK and gave them to Unified Sith because of his outstanding future tech RP's. Can someone verify this? I somehow doubt it. If nobody objects then I'll add it to his name. When I'm wrong I'll turn it back the way it was.

Oh, really? Well I'm not as much begging as I am trying to comprimise while we await your decision, which I guess you just made. I'm guessing by when you said owner you meant Granzi, because if you actually had read the posts we made, rather than just that last one, you would have read that we were trying to figure out who has the rights of Kazakhstan. I will stop "begging" here now.
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 13:16
Oh, really? Well I'm not as much begging as I am trying to comprimise while we await your decision, which I guess you just made. I'm guessing by when you said owner you meant Granzi, because if you actually had read the posts we made, rather than just that last one, you would have read that we were trying to figure out who has the rights of Kazakhstan. I will stop "begging" here now.

He who claimed is first, owns it. You're September 2004 which makes you the youngest so you have zero right to the nation and you're smaller then Kazahkstan itself so you can't even own it. It's tough being the smallest.
Momanguise
29-09-2004, 13:20
Yeah...I remember the small days.....*strokes 1 billion+ population*
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 13:58
the perils of being below 1 billion
Scoyle
29-09-2004, 14:34
HP I sent you a tg
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 15:30
Added.

Unified Sith, I don't really know what to do with this. You've never lied to me and I heard about it by sheer coincidence when I was talking to one of my many msn NS contacts.

If people complain about older claims with no relevant threads, who never saw the old forums, please keep your witty comments to yourself. I've kept my eyes and ears open on the old forums so I know pretty much who is/was related to who and such. And the claims involved of course.
Arenumberg
29-09-2004, 17:14
HP, if no-one comes forward to RP the Koreans within another day (already been 2 or something), ill just assume they accepted the occupation, Fair?
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 17:21
HP, if no-one comes forward to RP the Koreans within another day (already been 2 or something), ill just assume they accepted the occupation, Fair?

Show me a link to the RP, maybe you can add more stuff like resistance, or something special. Make it look good and it will be most certainly added.
Granzi
29-09-2004, 19:12
OOC: So do I get Kazakhstan? I notice that my name is not on the official 'list' yet. Post is #170, page 12.
Arenumberg
29-09-2004, 20:03
I posted a link the page before i think, ill ask around a bit first, if no-one comes forward, i shall start fighting myself tommorow, lol.
Holy panooly
29-09-2004, 20:33
Kazakhstan has been listed under Granzi's name.
Bedou
29-09-2004, 23:31
Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan.
Huzen Hagens Claims to Kyrgyzstan immediately fell into dispute in the thread he links.
Fell into dispute by the NAtions who support my later claim as I RP,d taking control from:
1.Daylam the Active claimant.
2.I used military force and diplomacy to negotiate it from other Active interests.
Given that the claims of Kelonian States, Daylam and Guerrillistan are even older, I might suggest we do as they did, you RP owning Kyrgyzstan/I RP owning Kyrgyzstan, and we dont RP together with either of us owning it. Or we can argue. what ever.
Huzen Hagens claims to Kyrgyzstan:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336146&page=1&pp=15

Bedou Claims to Kygyzstan and Tajikistan:
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=334938&page=15&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=325225 13th post down
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=4&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341445&page=3&pp=15
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6834709#post6834709

I can provide more if I go digging through enough profiles and Archives if it is needed.
Bump for a official call by HP on Tajikistan. I am waiting for a response of a tag from Huzen about Kyrgyzstan.
Margorn
30-09-2004, 00:53
Kazakhstan has been listed under Granzi's name.
Well, at least it has an owner. I will try to talk him into...having mercy upon me, if any care.

He who claimed is first, owns it. You're September 2004 which makes you the youngest so you have zero right to the nation and you're smaller then Kazahkstan itself so you can't even own it. It's tough being the smallest.

The first part I acknoledge now.

Hmm, that second setence seem to contradict the title "(fair to everyone!)"

So far the thought that runs through my my mind when I read that part is, "fair to everyone that's older than a month, maybe..."

Lastly, yes Kazahkstan is big, but its population is extremely sparse. Why, you may ask? Because its main reasorce and production comes from ranching. Also, last I checked, Kazahkstan's total population is UNDER 20 million. The CIA World Factbook's artical on Kazahkstan (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kz.html#People) says that its population is 15,143,704 (July 2004 est.)

Just trying to keep your post as accurate as one can. Also, just because a nation is "big" doesn;t mean its filled to the brim with people; in fact the biggest contry in the world is one of the least populated.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 00:56
I would like to share the spain with Intelligent Neighbors...perhaps I get West and he gets east?

Hows that IN?
Hamptonshire
30-09-2004, 02:52
I would like to share the spain with Intelligent Neighbors...perhaps I get West and he gets east?

Hows that IN?

Spain is not being taken by anyone.
Holy panooly
30-09-2004, 09:18
Being fair to everybody means that you need to make some rules regarding realism. You're too small to take such a gigantic land. And when you invade, you rarely have the advantage of surprise and guerrilla.

Bedou I have to talk with HH about this, if he comes online. Those claims are pending.
Kanabia
30-09-2004, 11:57
Thanks HP. Rubberduckistan wants Hainan though, so we can remove that.

EDIT- Nevermind, he retracted his claim. It's all mine :D
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 19:21
Spain is not being taken by anyone.

?

Intelligent Neighbors has it. He was my regional ally and still is my actuall ally.
Hamptonshire
30-09-2004, 20:56
?

Intelligent Neighbors has it. He was my regional ally and still is my actuall ally.


He does not.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 21:14
Oh thats not confirmed...either do you, Hamp.

I need some RL Land....
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 21:17
California and Alaska - Oman
California and Alaska - Yemen
California and Alaska - Iran
Granzi - Kazakhstan
Huzen Hagen - Northern Marianas Islands
Huzen Hagen - Kyrgyzstan
Islamaisbad - Iraq
Islamaisbad - Afghanistan
Islamaisbad - Saudi Arabia
Kanabia - Thailand
Kanabia - Malay Peninsula
Kanabia - Brunei
Kanabia - Burma
Kanabia - Brunei
Kanabia - Vietnam
Kanabia - Cambodia
Kanabia - Laos
Menelcamar - Kuwait
Menelcamar - United Arab Emirates
Menelcamar - Qatar
Menelcamar - Bahrain
Momanguise - Armenia
Momanguise - Georgia
Nianacio - Indonesia
Nianacio - Sri Lanka
Oshima and Izu - Izu Islands (near Japan)
Rubberduckistan - Hainan
Unified Sith - Japan
United Elias - Northern Saudi Arabia
United Elias - Southern Iraq
United Elias - Seychelles
United Elias - Brunei
United Indiastan - India
United Indiastan - Nepal
United Indiastan - Bhutan
United Indiastan - Pakistan
United Indiastan - Bangledash
Western Asia - Guam
Western Asia - Wake Island
Western Asia - Midway Island
Western Asia - Israel
Western Asia - Jordan
Western Asia - Lebanon
Western Asia - Syria
Western Asia - Sinai Peninsula
Western Asia - Turkey


I would like North/South Korea, and Mongolia please.

According to this, no one has claimed them.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 21:18
nvm on korea...just mongolia, please.
Unified Sith
30-09-2004, 21:53
You must rp taking Mongolia and unfortunately for you the only way to get at it is by going through China or another occupied Asian nation which i doubt anyone is going to let you do.

You must rp taking the nation sorry.
Scoyle
30-09-2004, 22:48
Unified Sith - STFU, you annoy me and leave my allies alone. Now if he wantewd to he could just air drop what he needs. And yes it can be done
Zarbia
30-09-2004, 23:21
Hp, I DID rp my invasions...
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 23:25
Or used ships...

Do I RP it here or what
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 23:25
plus no one officially has china.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 23:32
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7145319#post7145319

Just waiting for an asian-land-owning nation to respond.
Witzgall
30-09-2004, 23:33
Unified Sith - STFU, you annoy me and leave my allies alone. Now if he wantewd to he could just air drop what he needs. And yes it can be done

Scoyle, thank you for supporting me. :)

Anytime you need me...
Japanese States
01-10-2004, 00:15
well US you do know even with the Sparten Ivasion of China it make China rather unstable im shore he could get forces though China in Mongolia tho it would mean some how getting into china....whats not easy.

Scoyle no he couldnt just air drop people in, he would A: need to go over Russian Airspace B: Korean air space or C: chinas (i would go for China if Sparten wasnt invadeing it.)

Witzgall: best bets to take some of the Pasfic Islands small and easy to invade. that or make a deal with Sparten to allow your forces though china into Mongolia.
SPARTEN
01-10-2004, 00:19
Sparten has given permission for Wittzgall to pass through China.
OOC: Corpsac, leave me alone and stop trolling me. I know you have somehow decided to hate me in future tech but allowing it topass into modern is a bit uncouth is it not?
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 00:21
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7145762&posted=1#post7145762

Sparten, thank you.

That link is the RP of my Mongolian Declaration. Sparten posts in there about Chinese Invasion/My allowance to passthrough.

Also, Put Hawaiian Islands=1/4 of Mongolia with me...he just gets 90% of the crude oil and some land.
Lunatic Retard Robots
01-10-2004, 00:22
LRR is generally regarded as occupying the land currently known as Russia in many RP circles, or at least Russia east of the Urals.
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 00:23
I wish to make it clear that we are willing to sign a treaty with any bordering nation, given that the treaty protect both nations from attack and is reasonable.
Japanese States
01-10-2004, 00:29
I wish to make it clear that we are willing to sign a treaty with any bordering nation, given that the treaty protect both nations from attack and is reasonable.
Give me a small provance of Mongolia in the south and i will supply troops for your invasion and a base in North Korea (once Arenumberg claims put up on the bord)

Arenumberg Claim (since her link dont work):
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=360734
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 00:37
I'm trying to take a diplomatic try. I do not need your troops as of now.
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 00:57
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361717

Diplomatic Talks. We have mongolian officials.They have signed a treaty and we will begin our process of moving into Mongolia over the next 4 years.

is that good enough?
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 01:03
**gentle little bump**
Scoyle
01-10-2004, 01:12
I know he cant just air drop troops but I know it can be done without stepping a single foot on Chinese Soil.

Witzgall - All I ask is that you post on the OA forum. Your a member of the OA and make sure you sign the OA Constitution. I also really hate US because he is a **** ****.

[Just trying to keep it civil so HP doesnt get mad]
Unified Sith
01-10-2004, 01:15
Why do you have that opinion of me? What have i dont to offend you. So far i have had no contact with you that i can remember unless you are a puppet of course then that would be puppet wanking wouldnt it.
Margorn
01-10-2004, 01:26
The Commonwealth of Granzi
Received: 21 hours ago
I understand. I'm willing to give you a piece of land in the southern portion of Kazakhstan permenantly to you. Imgae can be found here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Granzi/2f30d878.gif

A piece of advise, I'd wait until your nation population is a little bigger before embarking on wars of conquest. I know that many nations wish for homeland for thier nation, but unfortuantly choose to invade that nation. It leads to serious loss of repect among the NS community. Anyway, I hope you do well, and I look forward to reading some of your RPs in the future.

Good Luck.
Obviously, this is the TG from Granzi that stated that I could accuire (sp?) the southern three state-like parts of Kazakhstan. I would have simpily TG'ed this to HP, but NS says that his nation doesn't exist for some reason. Thus it has been posted here and awaits approval or accucastions. Which ever comes first.
Granzi
01-10-2004, 01:32
I confirm the above post.
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 02:44
bump...
Witzgall
01-10-2004, 03:01
bump
Kopparbergs
01-10-2004, 03:18
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359913 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=359913).

I'm invading The Galapagos Islands, Ecuador and Peru.

This thread is now a week old (started sep. 24). I've met hard resistance in Peru (I've role played that with my self), so I withdraw my claim on Peru, at least for now.

In the thread I've taken total control over Ecuador and Galapagos Islands. However The Evil Overlord has stated that he wants the Islands, but we have not yet came to a conclusion about that (but probably he will get them).

Now I'm asking you to recognize my claim of Ecuador (excl. the Galapagos Islands).
Imprisonement
01-10-2004, 03:20
I am the rightful owner of monaco. put me down.