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This is a message to anyone who would be interested in selling the Raptorian Federation any sort of Biological or Chemical weapon. Of course, this weapons should only be used as a last resort, however, if we were to come under an attack, it's possible the situation could become extreme. I would like to apologise to Maslawyia for intruding in on their business with chemical and biological weapons.

Thank you in advance.

-Raptorian Federation War Board

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Why exactly does your War Board feel your nation needs to possess chem or bio weapons? After all, there are nations out there who will attack you simply for having NBC devices...

As we had stated earlier, defense reasons. If these nations were to attack, or threaten to just because we posess Biological or Chemical weapons we would have a valid reason to strike back, and have some allied backing. We have no intention of using these weapons in an offensive stand, unless a situation had gotten extremly desperate.

I'm sure said nations wouldn't attack keeping in mind that we are not malicious people. We don't attack civilians for sport.

Thank you for your concern.

-Raptorian Federation War Board

Raptorian, our nation is the heir of The Mighty Quin a nation that did much genetic research, and indeed we have a vial of a bacteria called stryptothirene that revenously eats flesh. That being said we only plan to use the advanced technology we have for good, and thus though we feel that we could make a good profit off this but we must question your motives.

Hrm... Sounds interesting.

Again, we plan to use any type of Chemical, Biological, or Nuclear weapon only in defence of our people. The only circumstances we'd use them in an offensive attack is if our nation was overwhelmed, and had no other option. We can't stress this enough: We don't have malicious intent.

Thank you for the offer, if you would like, we can begin to talk business.

Well there lies the problem, what would stop the bacteria from passing the border and destroying other nations?

OOC: I would have telegramed that to you but I couldn't find your nation

We would keep any sensitive materials deep withen our high security compounds. These bunkers are made especially for this type of situation. They are maintained by computers, and gaurded by highly trained and highly trusted officers.

As far as we can see it, there should be no problem with contamination.


(OOC: My nation is located Here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/pin=82358534/rref=Region=HASH(0x87368a8)/submit=Login/nation=raptorian_federation/target=display_nation/_IP=65.160.204.151) )

That is not what I am talking about. If you use this bacteria on a nation, what is to stop it from going past the borders and killing other nations?

Ah, sorry about the misunderstanding. I do see your point in this. We would have to use this bacteria is such small, tactical amounts, so it would have a very low percentage of spreading. And once more, the occasion where we'd use a biological, chemical, or nuclear warhead is very rare.

You have raised a very interesting question, weapons R&D will look into creating a warhead that can contain chemicals, and prevent mass spreading.


(OOC: Edit: My nation is located Here (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=raptorian_federation) , it was a typo before.)

Very well, how much are you willing to pay for it?

That all depends. How much are you willing to sell? We are pretty felxable with our economy, you state the price, and we will negotiate.

Greetings Raptorian Federation!

The Borderlands of Slaughternia has recently developed a chemical weapon that may be of interest to your nation.

ICUP-777 is a chemical, which when breathed in miniscule amounts, causes complete paralysis of external functions for a time spanning between two days to a full week.

Lord Mutilo, who approved the design of this chemical feels that it is actually a more humane approach to warfare than the conventional methods. You can paralyze an entire army and safely take them captive with minimal loss of life, or if you like, you can kill the enemy while they are paralyzed, with no casualties on your side. Minor post-paralysis side effects may include slight retardation, sexual impotency, and respiratory ailments; these only occurred in a small percentage of our test subjects, however.

Our production of this product is small, so we cannot afford to part with a great amount. We are able to offer you enough of the chemical to spread over a ten square kilometer area for 2.7 million USD.

We look forward to hearing back from you,
Fyrectryq Tambay -- Boqor of International Commerce of The Borderlands of Slaughternia

We have five vials(large test tubes kept in cold isolation to prevent danger) all you would have to do is expose the vial to air, at which point the bacteria are brought from the hibernation and become airborne. They attack the first living organism they find and eat the flesh while producing a nuerotoxin in their waste. For a victim afflicted it would take 25 hours from first contact to die, give or take. It is contagious as well.

What about 250,000?

Your nations is much to young to be held with the responsibility to hold Bio and Chem weapons. We also would like to question the meanings of the nations willing to sell chemical weapons. We, the nations of Terronian, will not stand for the possession of chemical weapons. If you inheret any chemical weapons, I will personally take them from you.

If you inheret any chemical weapons, I will personally take them from you.

Hmm, so you plan to take something from a nation that it has inherited even though the nation shows no interest in attacking another nation in any way? It doesn't matter, we have repealed the decision to give them the weapons.

Hmm, so you plan to take something from a nation that it has inherited even though the nation shows no interest in attacking another nation in any way? It doesn't matter, we have repealed the decision to give them the weapons. Thats good and dandy, good for you. But in short terms, yes, I will invade and take the weapons, we understand that they say they need the weapons for defense, but in the end, chemical weapons will not safe there country.

Terronian - We understand your concern, and plead to you: Do not take drastic measures. We are merely preparing ourselfs for wars that could come in the future. I do not wish for a war or any kind of political confilct between our two respitive nations. Please, we are merely defending ourselfs.

The Chozo - We are sorry for your new decision to repeal your goods. But it is your respective idea.

Slaughternia - Interesting, very interesing. We'll have the money arrive with the specialized transport: 2.7 million USD on it's way.


Thank you all for your business, and thank you Terronain for your consern to our nation.


-Alvden Primer, Head of Weapons R&D

Greetings Terronian!

Your questioning of my nation's motives is irrelevant to the parties involved in these dealings. Your not so subtley veiled threat against us is also not appreciated.

The chemical weapon that we have offered to the Raptorian Federation is a safe and humane alternative to standard methods of warfare. It's intention is to neutralize an invading army, in a way such that when the enemy surrenders the war, the majority of their troops can be returned unharmed.

Our people are war-faring by nature, so we do understand the bloodthirstiness that you feel in wishing combatants in war to be brutally slaughtered rather than safely incapacitated; however we have come to realize that times change, and we are making strives to fit into the modern era.

I hope that your leaders consider these words before taking any actions that they may regret.

Lord Mutilo of The Borderlands of Slaughternia

I'll sell you five tactical nukes with IRBMs for 90 Million.

Slaughternia - Interesting, very interesing. We'll have the money arrive with the specialized transport: 2.7 million USD on it's way.


-Alvden Primer, Head of Weapons R&D


We are looking forward to your arrival. Please have your transport dock in our port city, Reddnevvir.

OOC: Raptorian, would you like to roleplay the actual transaction taking place, or just assume that the deal is done?

That sounds reasonable. We have enough silos to house this, and graciously accept your offer. Thank you so very much. The money is on it's way with our transports. I am personally pleased that you were to give me these weapons at a fair price.


(OOC: Yeah, I'd be nice to have a short role play with our deal, are you going to start the post, or should I?)

Well to the Raptorian Goverment I must say this. Chemical weapons are banned. Although this is Nationstates, which seems to lack many issues, like the Geneva Convention. But anyway, if invaded and forced to use your new chemical weapons. What do you think will happen, the invader or nation your at war at will retalliate, using chemical or possibly nuclear arms back against you. Now we are trying peacefully to ask you to abort the idea of chemical weapons, you can cuase more damage to the world then good with them. As said ealier, we do not support any plans of yours to obtain these weapons. If obtained, we will ask for the weapons to be handed over for proper destruction. Failure to comply will result in a militiristic war (thus meaning I will not attack civilians) were I will disarm your nation.

Though we completley detest the idea of giving up our soon to be weapons, to seems we have little option. I propose a pact: You allow me to keep a small amount (small being around 5 vials worth) of chemicals for reaserch. Our nation is not about war, though many nations have disagreed with my acts in the past.

5 Vials isn't enough for me to even slightly alter a war, and this way, I pledge to not let my weapons be used for any purpose other than reasearch and development.

OOC: I'll start, simply so I can give you a brief description of my city. I'm assuming that your transport is aerial, if you prefer it to be a boat, just mention it and I'll edit this post appropriately.


IC:
Fyrectryq Tambay, Boqor (minister) of International Commerce sat with Funeralis Ferecnzy, Chief General of the Armed Forces and Gremlin Dunhill, Lead Scientific and Technological Developer in a private room for government officials high in the Reddnevvir Airport control tower. Ten armed guards in red robes stood surrounding some highly suspicious looking cylindrical containers. Each carried a high-powered assault rifle and had a curved and jagged-edged sword tied to their waist.

The general attitude among the three men of importance was one of joy. Fyrectryq was beaming because he clinched his trade with another nation since Slaughternia's emergence out of isolation from the rest of the world. Gremlin was pleased that somebody though highly enough of his work to be interested in buying it. Funeralis... well, he is just always happy anytime anything even remotely connected to war is happening.

The general and the scientist were killing time while waiting for The Raptorian Federation's envoy to arrive by playing a game of cards. Fyrectryq was sitting next to the large window and gazing out over the city of Reddnevvir.

Tall bulbous, red buildings stretched up to an average height of twenty floors in the center of the town. Away from the center, gleaming ice-covered buildings of various design spread everywhere. The architecture is always unique, yet always strives to have a "natural" look, as if the building was not built, but just had always been there. This aesthetic is intended to enhance the feeling of being at one with the wilderness, an ideal that all Slaughternians strive for. The streets were almost all automobiles, save some large buses that were seen streaking down at high speeds everynow and then. A large monorail system also weaves it's way around the city. Many of the city's inhabitants are seen walking and riding bicycles as they go about their business.

Funeralis sighed, threw down his cards, and was about lodge a complaint about the guests not having arrived yet, when a loud sound was heard, and they watched a Raptorian aircraft begin to descend from the sky.

That sounds reasonable. We have enough silos to house this, and graciously accept your offer. Thank you so very much. The money is on it's way with our transports. I am personally pleased that you were to give me these weapons at a fair price.


(OOC: Yeah, I'd be nice to have a short role play with our deal, are you going to start the post, or should I?)

OOC: I'll start.

The Parthian vessel pulled into the main port of Raptoria. It was an old vessel, covered in rust and worn from years of service. Inside the cargo hold, five Inter-Regional Ballistic Missiles and five 20kT warheads were being prepared for transfer.

Greetings Raptorian Federation!

What you choose to do with our product after you receive it is, of course, your choice. However, I have to question Terronian's motives. Nobody from that country has once mentioned what they will do with ICUP-777 after taking it from you. It is my suspicion that they want to keep it for themselves, after obtaining it in a way that does not involve purchase. They are already a high producer of uranium so most likely have well developed nuclear technology, and it seems to me that they want a monopoly on all forms of warfare.

Do you really trust a nation that possesses something as devastating as nuclear weapons, and at the same time is trying to oppress smaller countries and disallow them possession of a NON-FATAL warfare tool? The Borderlands of Slaughternia find Terronian to be highly suspicious.

The choice is yours what to do, but keep in mind that we now consider you an ally, and we will help defend your nation in the event of any attack.



To the Hypocritical States of Terronian: Do not underestimate us smaller countries. You do not have an easy path ahead of you, and I strongly suggest you cease making these threats.

Though we completley detest the idea of giving up our soon to be weapons, to seems we have little option. I propose a pact: You allow me to keep a small amount (small being around 5 vials worth) of chemicals for reaserch. Our nation is not about war, though many nations have disagreed with my acts in the past.

5 Vials isn't enough for me to even slightly alter a war, and this way, I pledge to not let my weapons be used for any purpose other than reasearch and development.
Thank you for your cooperation, we will allow the 5 vials, however in case you are invaded or at a war you know u cant win, look up Terronian aye. Due to the fact is was our goverment who minimised your weapon count, we will sign a mutual protection pact. This way, we insure your country will remain safe, and you can feel secure.

Greetings Raptorian Federation!

What you choose to do with our product after you receive it is, of course, your choice. However, I have to question Terronian's motives. Nobody from that country has once mentioned what they will do with ICUP-777 after taking it from you. It is my suspicion that they want to keep it for themselves, after obtaining it in a way that does not involve purchase. They are already a high producer of uranium so most likely have well developed nuclear technology, and it seems to me that they want a monopoly on all forms of warfare.

Do you really trust a nation that possesses something as devastating as nuclear weapons, and at the same time is trying to oppress smaller countries and disallow them possession of a NON-FATAL warfare tool? The Borderlands of Slaughternia find Terronian to be highly suspicious.

The choice is yours what to do, but keep in mind that we now consider you an ally, and we will help defend your nation in the event of any attack.



To the Hypocritical States of Terronian: Do not underestimate us smaller countries. You do not have an easy path ahead of you, and I strongly suggest you cease making these threats.


Your threats make me laugh, Terronian, has learned from the past not to use chemical weapons. We once were a leader in using acigoo, this led to our downfall. U can belive we are supsicous however you want, but PM guys like AfrikaZkorps, ViZion, etc, they will tell you i usually work to disarm nations of chemical weapons. Now earlier I did state to have the weapons....destroyed! Maby you didnt read it, or overlooked. We have no problem with your countrys to have Nuclear Weapons, although more dangerous then chemical weapons. Hell have 50,000 nukes, i dont care.....anyway, mighty big words from such a s mall nation.

Your threats make me laugh, Terronian, has learned from the past not to use chemical weapons. We once were a leader in using acigoo, this led to our downfall. U can belive we are supsicous however you want, but PM guys like AfrikaZkorps, ViZion, etc, they will tell you i usually work to disarm nations of chemical weapons. Now earlier I did state to have the weapons....destroyed! Maby you didnt read it, or overlooked. We have no problem with your countrys to have Nuclear Weapons, although more dangerous then chemical weapons. Hell have 50,000 nukes, i dont care.....anyway, mighty big words from such a s mall nation.


If obtained, we will ask for the weapons to be handed over for proper destruction.

You are correct, our analysts missed the statement that you would seek the weapons' destruction. We offer our apologies in that regard and the analysts at fault have been duly disciplined.

We still find your stance concerning chemical weapons hypocritical when compared to your acceptance of nuclear weapons, a far more devastating attack.

We are confused about what threats make you laugh, as we did not threaten, only warned of a strong defense should you carry out your threats.

Regardless, The Raptorian Federation has agree to submit to your pressure so it is a moot point now anyway.

Sincerely,
Jezebel Melmoth -- Boqor of Foreign Affairs of The Borderlands of Slaughternia

You are correct, our analysts missed the statement that you would seek the weapons' destruction. We offer our apologies in that regard and the analysts at fault have been duly disciplined.

We still find your stance concerning chemical weapons hypocritical when compared to your acceptance of nuclear weapons, a far more devastating attack.

We are confused about what threats make you laugh, as we did not threaten, only warned of a strong defense should you carry out your threats.

Regardless, The Raptorian Federation has agree to submit to your pressure so it is a moot point now anyway.

Sincerely,
Jezebel Melmoth -- Boqor of Foreign Affairs of The Borderlands of Slaughternia

Yes we know, its confusing in the fact, that we accept the more dangerous weapons which are indeed Nuclear, however, there are steps being taken to disarm terronians Nuclear Weapons.

Terronian, we will not see you violate a nation's rightful sovereignty because you think you have the right to. Granted that biological and chemical weapons are extremely dangerous, but the Raptorian Federation has shown no sign of using them against anyone, other than for his own defense. Do not think you can continue to pressure him. If you do, I will make sure that my marines see your capitol.

Terronian, we will not see you violate a nation's rightful sovereignty because you think you have the right to. Granted that biological and chemical weapons are extremely dangerous, but the Raptorian Federation has shown no sign of using them against anyone, other than for his own defense. Do not think you can continue to pressure him. If you do, I will make sure that my marines see your capitol.

He has already aclamied to a deal, and govermental pressure has been withdrawn. Plus in case of an attack i will personally protect his nation. Bio and Chem weapons should never be used by any nations except for terrorist and psychotics who will get what they deserve, a short drop and a sudden stop. Nuclear weapons, we too also frown upon, however we still have some left back from the old Terronian/ViZion Conflict decades ago, which we are planning to disarm. Anyway, whats this about your marines seeing my capitol, are you planning to go to war due to diplomatic pressure? The Terronian goverment will fight to the death, plus I will be sure to ring my allies. Plus let me see this fledgling nation grow, and if they seem to be responsible, hell they can have the weapons for all i care, but until I can see them as a reasnoable, stable goverment, i cant allow them to have the abaility to kill millions.

You can't allow? Well, that's all well and good, but its not your right to force people to disarm. It doesn't matter that you're a larger nation, and feel that its your responsibility to ensure peace. It isn't. It is the Raptorian Federation's right to own the aptly dubbed "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Do not think you can force others to disarm. I will be there.

OOC: It's always been my view that nations can have WMDs when they RP maturely, and Raptorian has. Now, I shall go back to writing up my fleet.

Terronian - Thank you for letting us keep 5 vials worth of this chemical compound. We are overjoyed that you are willing to protect our nation in a time of crisis. We truley thank you.

Parlim - There is no need for a military occupation. Terronian has a valid point, we may be too young to posess biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. However, as you have heard, they are allowing me to keep a trace amount of chemcial and biological compounds for reasearch. We are however honored that you'd be willing to fight for another nation's rights. Thank you for thinking of us with these defensive words. Military action is not nessisary.

Thank you all for helping us through this time. Perhaps one day we will have the repsonibility of such weapons, but this day is not in the present.

To clarify: All current WMD transactions are off. We don't need to posess such power until the time is right. And that time is when larger nations can trust us with such power. Thank you all again for your support.

Terronian - Thank you for letting us keep 5 vials worth of this chemical compound. We are overjoyed that you are willing to protect our nation in a time of crisis. We truley thank you.

Parlim - There is no need for a military occupation. Terronian has a valid point, we may be too young to posess biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. However, as you have heard, they are allowing me to keep a trace amount of chemcial and biological compounds for reasearch. We are however honored that you'd be willing to fight for another nation's rights. Thank you for thinking of us with these defensive words. Military action is not nessisary.

Thank you all for helping us through this time. Perhaps one day we will have the repsonibility of such weapons, but this day is not in the present.

To clarify: All current WMD transactions are off. We don't need to posess such power until the time is right. And that time is when larger nations can trust us with such power. Thank you all again for your support.

We appluad the words of the Raptorians, we hope to see your nation in the future, may your nation prosper.

Thank you, as to yours.

we have many chemical weapons to choose from for very cheap.

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