NationStates Jolt Archive

Most nations like to make claims that pertain to the real world, mainly for strategic purposes. So an RL claims list has been made. Since that was filled up alternate Earths have been made in which other nations may claim RL nations and/or territories.

I am just doing a poll to see which alternate Earth claims are accepted and recongnized by the vast majority of NS players. This should be based on the rules in which the creator of the alternate Earth has placed to "govern" the claims of participating nations.

what about none?

I just found out about Earth V. Oh well, I dont believe I am able to add it to the list now. However I would just like to say that it has my support also. The Earth V has good control rules.

I recognize no earth-nations, since they do not exist in NS.

I just found out about Earth V. Oh well, I dont believe I am able to add it to the list now. However I would just like to say that it has my support also. The Earth V has good control rules.

I support it as well.

I recognize no earth-nations, since they do not exist in NS.

You may misunderstand. They aren't Earth nations. Just NS nations that have claims on an Earth-based map/setting. This is basically for strategic use in RPs.

I recognize all of the worlds rolled into one.

You may misunderstand. They aren't Earth nations. Just NS nations that have claims on an Earth-based map/setting. This is basically for strategic use in RPs.

Why don't they make their bloody own map then? NS is for creativity, not copying a nations borders.

Why don't they make their bloody own map then? NS is for creativity, not copying a nations borders.

It is to give good points of reference, and give a good idea where a nation is in relation to other nations.

Why don't they make their bloody own map then? NS is for creativity, not copying a nations borders.

Because it's realistic on Earth, it's just stupid on some alien planet...

http://www.kuattech.com/kh.jpg

I seemed to do an adequate job with Photoshop and approximately 20 minutes.

Also, how is it harder manage a culture.... when you CONTROL IT VIA RP? As I said, NS is for creativity, not copying whats already there.

I agree with Attican Empire, although to be perfectly honest I think that map is rather ugly... >.<

Why don't they make their bloody own map then? NS is for creativity, not copying a nations borders.

Possibly for strategic purposes? So nations can have a since of identity and location among other fellow NS players. Basically because Earth is a practical choice with land size and location already determined. Basically the Earths are communities in which nations claim practical and useful (RP-wise) territories.

I mean sure, it is acceptable for nations to create there own maps. But then there is the problem of working out distances invading, trading, or visiting nations must travel. Also climate. And because Earth has that all set, it just makes it much more easier to have an Earth-based claim.

Copying?

A lot of "Earth" nations are alternative history based. Which is a lot more creative that drawing some land on a map. But's than an opinion.

Copying?

A lot of "Earth" nations are alternative history based. Which is a lot more creative that drawing some land on a map. But's than an opinion.

Too bad 60% of the borders on that map have been changed via war. Oh well.

Too bad 60% of the borders on that map have been changed via war. Oh well.

Well, it's not necessarily the borders of RL countries that nations are claiming, however it may be that way in Earth V. But rather just places on an Earth map. Like two RL countries may be combined to form a larger one or partial parts of RL countries may be claimed.

For instance my nation Cullenus. Cullenus is ONE nation. However when looking at a RL map it would be where present-day RL locations Florida, Greater Antilles islands, and part of Antarctica are. Also a small place in the northern part of present-day RL nation Russia is. That doesnt mean that I own Florida or the other places. All I own is Cullenus. The RL country names are just used primarily to familiarize others with the location of Cullenus or whoever's nation is.

I recognize no earth-nations, since they do not exist in NS.

"Oh my God!"

The collective cry rang-out across the UK as sixty million Britons struggled for a moment with their sense of self and nationhood, many briefly fearing that they were in fact trapped a la The Matrix.

Then it turned out that hey, they did exist in NS, and as an added bonus, their nation was a lot more interesting than some others, which, if cartographers were to believed, had no infrastructure of topography of note.

"It really makes you appreciate a lot more than just your own self. The national identity that comes with having things like the Peak District, the M25, and Birmingham, well it really doesn't occur to a person until they realise that humourless people like the Atticans don't have it." Said Mr.Knill, 42, of Dover, who was brought into being by the mind, fingers, and keyboard of some uncreative guy somewhere in another universe inhabited by billions of other demi-gods of varying degrees of skill and creative merit.

To the point, I don't have any interest in any of the claims threads, and RP on a case by case basis. In my RPs The British Federation represents the UK and its territories, and suddenly I'm the PM, the Queen, both Houses of Parliament, Mr.Knill from Dover, his abused spaniel, his elderly cousin thrice removed and resident in Glasgow, the ship's doctor on HMS Daring, which hasn't even been launched yet in another world... [rambles on and on]

Too bad 60% of the borders on that map have been changed via war. Oh well.

The truth is, 80% of the RP's here involve terrorism, uprisings, or war of some kind.

Its hard to find good peaceful RP's.

The truth is, 80% of the RP's here involve terrorism, uprisings, or war of some kind.

Its hard to find good peaceful RP's.

I was referring to the comment of my map being "artificial", of course, I am sure that todays national borders are COMPLETELY natural!

Which is the one that has Menelmacar, California and Alaska, and New York and Jersey controlling the remnants of the United States?

I've got most of Canada in that one, plus a few Latin American countries.

Which is the one that has Menelmacar, California and Alaska, and New York and Jersey controlling the remnants of the United States?

I've got most of Canada in that one, plus a few Latin American countries.

Huh? This isn't a claim thread or anything.

If RL Earth is Chellis's claims thread, then I recognize that one (I ignore some of the nations that have claims, and thus their claims, though.). The modern-tech people who claim land in the other Earths are preventing modern-tech nations in the other ones from RPing with them.
I also ignore invasions of RL land unless someone else already owns it. I consider RL land non-existant...Unless someone bases his/her nation in that land. I'm willing to accept more than one person basing a nation in certain territory.
http://www.kuattech.com/kh.jpg870KB is rather large...
I seemed to do an adequate job with Photoshop and approximately 20 minutes.How scientifically adequate is it?
Also, how is it harder manage a culture.... when you CONTROL IT VIA RP?Culture doesn't have to be very important in an RP.
A lot of "Earth" nations are alternative history based. Which is a lot more creative that drawing some land on a map. But's than an opinion.Nianacio's alternate history diverges from our timeline thousands of years ago. 8)

If RL Earth is Chellis's claims thread, then I recognize that one (I ignore some of the nations that have claims, and thus their claims, though.). The modern-tech people who claim land in the other Earths are preventing modern-tech nations in the other ones from RPing with them.
I also ignore invasions of RL land unless someone else already owns it. I consider RL land non-existant...Unless someone bases his/her nation in that land. I'm willing to accept more than one person basing a nation in certain territory.
870KB is rather large...
How scientifically adequate is it?
Culture doesn't have to be very important in an RP.
Nianacio's alternate history diverges from our timeline thousands of years ago. 8)

khs.jpg is the smaller resolution version. Also, I am sorry I did not compile a program to simulate continental drift.

The modern-tech people who claim land in the other Earths are preventing modern-tech nations in the other ones from RPing with them.


Not neccessarily. A widely accepted rule for RP among the Earths is that if one country is RPing with another one on another Earth then basically the Earths are combined. So then for instance ships from Florida on Earth II can sail across the Atlantic Ocean to Spain on another Earth. And if the two countries are on the same country or piece of land then basically it is RPd as if the two nations are side-by-side.

The only purpose Id have for know where a nation is, is that you know what landmass your attackign and what landmarks you are going for. I couldnt give care less about strategy.

My nation is located on a made up region which sits beside America but doesnt exist in RL.

Knwoing your location is good for detail and colour of the RP, but the exact national borders or strategic locations seem a bit silly.

Knowing "Im in North france" is useful Just because you knwo what the land you are attacking is shaped like and so on. the insistance on occupying real borders or real earths just seems silly though.

Huh? This isn't a claim thread or anything.

That wasn't my point.

What I mentioned in my first post here was that I only recognize whichever Earth all those events/holdings are in.

A widely accepted rule for RP among the Earths is that if one country is RPing with another one on another Earth then basically the Earths are combined. So then for instance ships from Florida on Earth II can sail across the Atlantic Ocean to Spain on another Earth. And if the two countries are on the same country or piece of land then basically it is RPd as if the two nations are side-by-side.That wouldn't be them being on another Earth, then.

I'm curious about a couple of things.

First, wouldn't a nation already be a custom made one if you selected certain countries or states? For instance, a NS nation claims Alaska and the Yukon Territory. Then the two lands merge into one nation, instead of one being a US state, and the other being a Canada Province.

Or if a NS nation claims New England, then New England would comprise a nation, rather than states of the USA.


Second question:

Would it be recognized if a NS nation takes their Earth claims then put them together into one continent or mainland? If a nation takes India and China, then mesh them together into one custom continent, would it become recognized by the players who don't recognize or acknowledge Earth I - V claims?