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Today the emperors government announced that large scale fleet exercises would be taking place in international waters near the nation of Tyrandis. No reason has been given but Tyrandis's involvement with fellow RWC member Zarbia may have something to do with the dicision. A more detailed statement is believed to be announced in the coming days

Where's Tyrandis??? otherwise the People's Republic of Warta Endor likes to join them

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Official Resposne: Three Imperial fleets are being sent to the region to engage in fleet excercises with our Ally Huzen Hagen.

secret ic: 4 wolfpacks are being sent also

OOC: Ships per 1 fleet:
4 Intrepid Carriers
4 Fiery Avenger Missile ships
4 ASW Tracker ships
4 AA Shield shields
20 Romulus Battleships
30 Legate Battlecruisers
40 Vesuivus Frigates
60 Centurion Destroyers
10 Velite subs(using silent propulsion)
+ assorted supply ships and 75 troop transports total.
Wolfpack is 10 Lupine subs each. The subs are using silent propulsion drives not to be seen.

A small scouting party of two ZF-22 fighter jets fly over the Huzen Hagen fleet, taking note of the situation and circling twice before returning to Zarbia.

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A small scouting party of two ZF-22 fighter jets fly over the Huzen Hagen fleet, taking note of the situation and circling twice before returning to Zarbia.



Your nation must be close to them because a fighter jet only has a range of about 3000 miles.

Your nation must be close to them because a fighter jet only has a range of about 3000 miles.

um...They launched off a ship that was close to Tyrandis..

um...They launched off a ship that was close to Tyrandis..



But you said they returned to Zarbia not a ship.

OOC: Huzen, clarify your damn numbers as to the strength of your fleet. If not, ignoring this.

But you said they returned to Zarbia not a ship.

....Grrr...

OK..

What happened WAS:

The scouts passed the Hugen Hazen ships while they were on their way there, which happened to be close to my nation.

NOW SHH. :p

The sleek, heavy destroyer and commerce raider, Devine Intervention proceeded to maintain a distance of 35 nm away from the Huzen Hagen fleet. Devine Intervention was escorting 3 electronic intelgence ships, and was itself being escorted by 3 Tessie Class frigates of the regular Navy, and 2 Tiufekchiev light commerce raiders.

Three fishing trawlers take anchor a good distance away, making no attempt to hide the massive antennae, satellite dishes, and sensors aboard.

Four C.T.C Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers sat just outside the zone watching the fleet exercise.

"Ok men, I want you to watch and learn. maybe we will learn how to fight and manuver." said the Chief Captain aboard the Singing Dragon.
The Singing Dragon the pride of the C.T.C Arleigh Burke-Class Destroyers, she is the most advanced one they have.

OOC: Huzen, clarify your damn numbers as to the strength of your fleet. If not, ignoring this.


OOC:I generally dont like to clog up threads withe numbers but..

5 Battle groups, each containing:

1 Macha battleship (ver.1)
2 Neit Battleships
3 Morrigon battleships
3 White Lady battleships

2 Amphibious assault groups, each conatining

1 Infusion
4 Wasp
4 Helo assault
4 Neit class
4 Ticonderoga Class
4 Arleigh Burke Class
4 Sea wolf Class
3 Zumwalt Class
1 Command ship
200 LCAC
10 Hover Transport
2 Arsenal
3 Hospital ship

4 Carrier Battle groups, each containing:

2 Infusion
2 Wasp Class
2 Helo assault
1 Command ship
5 Morrigan class
4 Arleigh Burke class
2 Zumwalt class
100 LCAC
5 Hover transport
2 Hospital ship
4 Virginia class
4 Sea wolf class
2 Macha (ver.2)
1 Arsenal ship
4 Oliver Hazard Perry
4 Ticonderoga

Note:
1. This does not include logistics
2. This is old, i have updated most of the frigates but i dont know have the updated version of this list but if you must, replace the frigates with type 45 meteora destroyers.

IC: The Emperors government today released a list of the fleet taking place in large scale military exercises near Tyrandis. It is belived that the exercise will test a new anti-shipping missile rumoured to be more accurate, intelligent, faster and more dealy then the present missile used by the Huzeny Miliatry today. Severall fellow members of the RWC have also joined in the exercises making this the largest exercise in Huzeny History.

As the fleets moved into position, watched by a small flotilla of ships from other nations. Anti-submarine patrolls begun and recon flights patrolled the allied cordon. The mess halls were buzzing with talk of the upcoming tests of the new ASM and roumours of a possible invasion were also rife.

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Breaking off Task Force Gargantuan ten Type II SSNs slipped under the surface of the water at one hundred meters. The sleek shape of the Type II gently submerged within minutes, and the wolf pack headed from Zarbian waters to the area of Huzen Hagen. The Type II was one of the most advanced submarines known to date, although, it shared basic equipment. It had an anachoic tile coating, which absorbed active pinging by shipping SONAR, and the noise of the screws was no longer existent due to an inventive rubber stopper on the blade of the screws which made the screws much quieter, without effecting screw speed. Bubbling under the hull also absorbed much of the noise that the screws and the hull made during exercises, meaning that the enemy would have a harder time picking up the submarine through passive SONAR.

The group was led by the SSN HES Toledo. commanded by Captain Jack Deloung, an experienced, and young, submarine captain. He had formally fought in Zarbia as a weapons analyst during the opening bombardment of enemy troops, before the Macabees had landed their massive armies on Zarbian soil. The experience gained during that war would aid him forever. The wolf pack swam toward the exercise area at 15 knots, making as little noise as possible. No one would be warned of the Macabee submarine grouping, not even the Right Wing Collective. They would be there to minitor the situation.


[Zarbia]

OOC: I guess that Zarbia is close to Tyrandis now..all of a sudden..well, better for me.

IC:

Off the airfield Charles V, recently built in Zarbia as a Macabee base in the area, ten MMA-D1 Reconaissance Aircraft took off and headed towards Tyrandis. They had a maximum range of five thousand kilometers without refueling, but would probably be refuled in the air, on their way back, because five thousand klicks was a stretch. Their orders were simple. To provide photographs of coastal installations on Tyrandis. Although the Macabees had no plans to invade with any troops, they may be useful later on.

In the skies SAT PASS DATA FEEDS were already providing the Macabees with photographs of everything from whorehouses, to SAM batteries, to military HQs, etc, every eight hours. The Macabee government was already alloting a full three sattelites to pass over Tyrandis without incident.

Firehawk Air Force Base

Radar from installations on the coast picked up the Macabee flights over Tyrandis's coast.

As Central Command would never tolerate any nation trying to spy on the Militant Empire, the 5th and 8th Defense Wings, composed of sixty JAS-39 Griffon interceptors each, flew up to meet the reconnaissance aircraft.

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Skies over coast of Tyrandis

"This is Rapier-Two-Seven, I've got radar contact on target, ten bogeys on screen. Intercepting." radioed one of the fighters over a secure radio channel.

Screaming from the clouds at Mach 1.2, the leader of the two interceptor wings relayed a message to the Macabee planes over the global channel.

"Attention foreign planes: Leave Tyrandisan airspace immediately, or face destruction. You have ten seconds to reply."

Meanwhile, the 120 fighters took up flanking position. If the recon planes wouldn't leave, they would be cut to shreds...

Devine Intervention and her escorts were under strict orders. They were to guard the intelgence ships untill the missle test had been compleated. Following this, the 3 Tessie frigates would escort the intelegence ships away, while the Devine Intervention and the Tiufekchiev class ships attempt to raid the Huzen Hagen fleet.

In order to provide cover for the intelegence ships' withdraw, the carrier battle groups: CNS Do or Die, CNS Heros of Our Past, CNS Saint Patrick, and CNS Saint John DeMatha have been deployed to support the mission. CNS Do or Die, CNS Saint John DeMatha, and CNS Saint Patrick have already arrived on station, while CNS Heros of Our Past is lagging a day behind, after a turbine malfunction.

[Tyrandian Air]

"This Eagle Eye Zero-Eight, over. Contacts bearing perpendicular acute, angle measure, bearing zero-seven-eight. Count over one hundred, over. Repeat, over one hundred."

The ten MMA-D1s had heavy radar equipment on them, and had caught the Tyrandian aircraft as soon as they got one hundred meters into the air. Immediate contact reports had soon enough been transmitted back to Charles V Airfield, and the Macabees prompted to respond. The recon aircraft had maybe ten to twelve minutes to get their arse out of there, but they would stay for a bit more. They changed course angling slowly out of Tyrandis. In some thirteen minutes they would be over Huzen Hagen's fleets. Huzen Hangen's SAMs would be able to "snipe" the Tyrandis birds out of the air; at least those who survived the Macabee's onslaught.

The Macabees just did not understand Tyrandis. Did they want more enemies? Why would they down an effectively neutral Renaissance aircraft? In any case, it was time for the Macabees to respond. Thirty MMA-A2 Hawks screamed into the air, scramjet throwing them at cruise speed of Mach 2.9. Another twenty MMA-A1 Kondors hit 2.4 zooming towards Tyrandis, behind the Hawks. The Hawks moved to intercept the Tyrandian birds - they were loaded with twenty A-11/Gs, each with some 70 kilometers range. The ramjet engine of the A-11/Gs would throw them at Mach 3.7 towards the enemy; the Tyrandian birds would be hit cold - if the Macabees knew them as well as they thought they did. In any case, the Hawks continued to intercept the Tyrandians, before they hit the Reconaissance aircraft, and they succeeded with the speed they were going. Although the Hawks were outnumbered, four to one at least, however, they thought they could take out at least three times the number of Macabees that would be shot down. Reconaissance aircraft, while flying towards Hugen Hazen's fleet began to turn on jamming equipment, which would force the Tyrandians to take some eight minutes to burn through, at least. Consequently, the Macabees hoped that the Hawks would take the fighters, which were left without radar of their own by suprise. The Hawks began to engage a minute and a half later, firing three A-11/G Archer Air to Air missiles at each enemy contact seen by their own fire control radar. The missiles dropped some ten feet before the ramjet kicked in. A quick afterburn pushed the missile to Mach 3.5 and it screeched towards the fighter it was programed to hit. If the Tyrandians fired a missile towards the Macabees, or tried to close the distance, the Hawks could turn on their afterburners and hit Mach 3.4 if necessary.

All the while the MMA-A1 Kondors swooped low, below thirty meters, hoping to get out of effective radar. Although the Tyrandians would catch them sooner or later, it might be too late - especially with Tyrandian radar now most probably sweeping for the Hawks, and taking their quick time to burn threw the jamming. The Kondors were armed with twelve MLAM-3s. The MLAM-3 was a light air to surface missile with a eighty kilogram OctaNitroCubane warhead - they were designed as sam and radar killers, and that they would do. Sattelites, which had taken the last days to make regular passes every eight hours, had already given coordinates to some sam sites, others would be found by lidar and regular reconaissance. In any case, if not all, most, radar sites were already known - and those were less mobile than sam batteries. The Kondors targeted each known radar location in the first "front" half of Tyrandis with eight MLAM-3s, hoping to destroy the radar stations, thereby ending Tyrandian candidacy for air supremacy temporarily. The other four MLAM-3s were held to destroy the sam sites. The Kondors were also eqipped with five A-11/G Archer Air to Air missiles to fight Tyrandian fighters.

To get out of there they turned on their afterburners and headed out, while the Hawks kept a rear guard actiont. (OOC: I will post casualties after you post your defense.)

The Reconaissance Aircraft were by now over Huzen Hagen's fleet, with their required sam protection. They would soon head back to Charles V airfield in Zarbia and refuel. Then they would head back to Tyrandis, and the Macabees hoped that Tyrandis had changed their minds on attacking the Macabees again.


[Tyrandian Waters]

Captain Deloung was looking at the chart. His wolfpack was seventy kilometers from the main Tyrandian naval port on this side of the coastline. No doubt that the Tyrandian navy was on high alert due to the extremely public Huzen Hagen deployment there, for "exercises." It would take a fool to actually believe that malarkey, but it worked sometimes - probably not in this case. However, that didn't matter. The Tyrandians were most probably looking in the wrong direction, the Macabee SSNs had come from a totally different direction, perpindicular to the Huzen Hagen axis. The ten SSNs were one hundred and fifty feet under the surface of the water, about forty five meters in the European system.

"We got a target rich enviroment here," rehearsed the captain to his XO. He took a deep breath and picked up the conn, "Do I have missile conn?"

"Aye captain." repeated the technical officer on the other side of the line.

"Ready missiles s2,over"

The technical took about thirty seconds to respond, "Aye sir, weapons s2."

The captain paused for a minute and then hell began, "Fire."

From the ten SSNs seventy kilometers from the Tyrandian fleet stationed at their main naval base two hundred Principe IIIs flew into the air and screamed their way towards the enemy shipping. The submarines anachoic tiles, and their change to catepillar drive had saved them from AWACs and ASW up to now. However, now they were most probably heard. The submarines dropped to one thousand five hundred feet and began to head back towards Zarbian coast, where they would get re-supplied.

All the while the Principe IIIs raced towards the port area. The long, slim, missile had a 45mm armoured coating on the nose, protecting the 30mm shell, to deflect Metal Storm and CIWS rounds. However, that wouldn't matter soon enough. The Principes had originally been at one hundred meters directly after being fired, however, once scramjet kicked in they began to sea-skim just above three meters over the sea, at Mach 2.1. Small wired criss crossing the missile would absorb minor radar signals sent towards the missile, deflecting them - however, they didn't work for long. Slowing down considerably to one hundred and twenty kilometers per hour the Principe IIIs missile capsule broke off fifty two kilometers from the enemy fleet and each missile dropped a modified Mk 48 torpedo, some times called the Mk 48/A1 Massacre, into the water. A quick reaction chute allowed the tip of the torpedo to hit the water first. As soon as the entire body of the shark entered the sea it rapidly increased attack speed to 67 knots, and headed towards the targets, mechanically programed into the torpedo's "brain". If the Macabees were lucky the Tyrandians would have a grave wound on their navy.

This was the first shot of the war...

OOC: Yeeha! IC post coming as soon as tyrandis fires on RWC forces.

[Tyrandian Air]

"This Eagle Eye Zero-Eight, over. Contacts bearing perpendicular acute, angle measure, bearing zero-seven-eight. Count over one hundred, over. Repeat, over one hundred."

The ten MMA-D1s had heavy radar equipment on them, and had caught the Tyrandian aircraft as soon as they got one hundred meters into the air. Immediate contact reports had soon enough been transmitted back to Charles V Airfield, and the Macabees prompted to respond. The recon aircraft had maybe ten to twelve minutes to get their arse out of there, but they would stay for a bit more. They changed course angling slowly out of Tyrandis. In some thirteen minutes they would be over Huzen Hagen's fleets. Huzen Hangen's SAMs would be able to "snipe" the Tyrandis birds out of the air; at least those who survived the Macabee's onslaught.

The Macabees just did not understand Tyrandis. Did they want more enemies? Why would they down an effectively neutral Renaissance aircraft? In any case, it was time for the Macabees to respond. Thirty MMA-A2 Hawks screamed into the air, scramjet throwing them at cruise speed of Mach 2.9. Another twenty MMA-A1 Kondors hit 2.4 zooming towards Tyrandis, behind the Hawks. The Hawks moved to intercept the Tyrandian birds - they were loaded with twenty A-11/Gs, each with some 70 kilometers range. The ramjet engine of the A-11/Gs would throw them at Mach 3.7 towards the enemy; the Tyrandian birds would be hit cold - if the Macabees knew them as well as they thought they did. In any case, the Hawks continued to intercept the Tyrandians, before they hit the Reconaissance aircraft, and they succeeded with the speed they were going. Although the Hawks were outnumbered, four to one at least, however, they thought they could take out at least three times the number of Macabees that would be shot down. Reconaissance aircraft, while flying towards Hugen Hazen's fleet began to turn on jamming equipment, which would force the Tyrandians to take some eight minutes to burn through, at least. Consequently, the Macabees hoped that the Hawks would take the fighters, which were left without radar of their own by suprise. The Hawks began to engage a minute and a half later, firing three A-11/G Archer Air to Air missiles at each enemy contact seen by their own fire control radar. The missiles dropped some ten feet before the ramjet kicked in. A quick afterburn pushed the missile to Mach 3.5 and it screeched towards the fighter it was programed to hit. If the Tyrandians fired a missile towards the Macabees, or tried to close the distance, the Hawks could turn on their afterburners and hit Mach 3.4 if necessary.

All the while the MMA-A1 Kondors swooped low, below thirty meters, hoping to get out of effective radar. Although the Tyrandians would catch them sooner or later, it might be too late - especially with Tyrandian radar now most probably sweeping for the Hawks, and taking their quick time to burn threw the jamming. The Kondors were armed with twelve MLAM-3s. The MLAM-3 was a light air to surface missile with a eighty kilogram OctaNitroCubane warhead - they were designed as sam and radar killers, and that they would do. Sattelites, which had taken the last days to make regular passes every eight hours, had already given coordinates to some sam sites, others would be found by lidar and regular reconaissance. In any case, if not all, most, radar sites were already known - and those were less mobile than sam batteries. The Kondors targeted each known radar location in the first "front" half of Tyrandis with eight MLAM-3s, hoping to destroy the radar stations, thereby ending Tyrandian candidacy for air supremacy temporarily. The other four MLAM-3s were held to destroy the sam sites. The Kondors were also eqipped with five A-11/G Archer Air to Air missiles to fight Tyrandian fighters.

To get out of there they turned on their afterburners and headed out, while the Hawks kept a rear guard actiont. (OOC: I will post casualties after you post your defense.)

The Reconaissance Aircraft were by now over Huzen Hagen's fleet, with their required sam protection. They would soon head back to Charles V airfield in Zarbia and refuel. Then they would head back to Tyrandis, and the Macabees hoped that Tyrandis had changed their minds on attacking the Macabees again.

OOC: I never attacked you. All I did was post an intercept, ordering your recon planes out of my airspace.


[Tyrandian Waters]


OOC: How the damn hell did you break into a most secure naval port, with that many submarines, without me detecting them? This part of the attack is ignored. If you really tried that, some two hundred Wolfeater-class Ekranoplans would be swarming out, hunting them down one by one.

Devine Intervention and her escorts were under strict orders. They were to guard the intelgence ships untill the missle test had been compleated. Following this, the 3 Tessie frigates would escort the intelegence ships away, while the Devine Intervention and the Tiufekchiev class ships attempt to raid the Huzen Hagen fleet.

In order to provide cover for the intelegence ships' withdraw, the carrier battle groups: CNS Do or Die, CNS Heros of Our Past, CNS Saint Patrick, and CNS Saint John DeMatha have been deployed to support the mission. CNS Do or Die, CNS Saint John DeMatha, and CNS Saint Patrick have already arrived on station, while CNS Heros of Our Past is lagging a day behind, after a turbine malfunction.


OOC: sneaky, sneaky

IC:

[Tyrandian Waters]

[i]AWACs reconaissance aircraft had easily picked up the small battle group bearing ever closer towards Huzen Hagen. Although Huzen Hagen might have been suprised the Macabee Navy was just too experienced to be dumbfounded by such a high handed maneuver. Although ground based aircraft on Zarbia were limited, carrier based were not, and they were immediately called upon to start harrasing Seversky's fleets, most of them carrier task forces.

One hundred fifty MMA-B1 Hawks followed seventy-five MMA-A1 Kondors into the air. This time the MMA-A1s were armed with something different. They too started to cruise below thirty meters altitude, while the Hawks kept high to draw enemy fighters away. The fighters oscillated back and forth as they hit Mach 2.4, throwing themselves against Seversky's powerful fleets.

At one hundred kilometers from target the Hawks hit Mach 3.1 and began to throw signals to catch Seversky's radar waves. The Kondors continued under the wave's signals. No doubt that Seversky's fighters would soon scream into the air in order to start engaging Macabee Hawks, however, the Macabees still thought they had the dominate air to air weapon, designed by Macabee engineers themselves, the A-11/G Archers, a modification to the Soviet Archer.

As the Kondors hit seventy five kilometer range radar jammers turned on, again, with a seven minute burn through period. In two of those minutes they would be under fifty kilometers off, and in the next three they would be blazing back to Macabee carriers. From that range of about fifty kilometers they fired four hundred MAS-1 Angels, air to surface anti-shipping missiles, each with two hundred kilometers range - although this time they were well under effective range to maximize damage. The MAS-1 had a 200kg Octagen warhead and five could easily totally destroy an enemy carrier, and that was the doctrine. Five per carrier. Three of the carrier task forces were targeted, the fourth well behind the others, and thus out of effective combat range for this specific mission. However, radar watched out for aircraft coming from that direction. Large ships, however not carriers, were targeted by two MAS-1s, and ships smaller than that, such as patrol boats, were hit with one Angel.

The Kondors soon turned around, as described, and hit afterburners, flying their asses back to their carriers at Mach 3.1. The Hawks did a quick rear guard defensive action and soon also hit Mach 3.4 and flew back to the carriers to re-arm.

The Macabees hoped that this would cripple Seversky for the time being and would allow the Macabees to further weaken Tyrandis while the Right Wing Collective armies got their plans together and actually did something worth while.

OOC: You can all go home now, by the way. The whole Zarbian war thing is over.

Of course, if you persist in trying to provoke me, I will get my own allies to intervene (Read: NATO members)

EDIT: Macabees, HOW THE FUCK ARE YOUR PLANES MANUVERING AT THOSE SPEEDS?

Trying to bank at mach 2.5 is hard enough, but mach 3+?

God-mod alarms!

OOC:

1. Realistically I never got that message... I don't know wether your planes are going to attack me or try to have intercourse with me in the air... so, realistically I had two options that I have time to think of now... leave, or protect..I decided with the latter, and now you and I are officially at war.


2. If you try to active ping me from a ship my anachoic tiles are going to absorb. Sonar bouys are something different, but why the hell would you have sonar bouys around your port areas without you knowing about a enemy submarine presence..well you might have in order to watch out for Huzen Hagen's fleets, but you never posted it, so ICly you never did.... Catepillar drive is too silent..it's slower than nuclear..but it's silent... you would have to know the specific sound... and at real timing it sounds like sharks having hard sex... you would have to analyze the sound on tape... that's how my subs got through.

3. We dont give a damn if the war in Zarbia is over...well I care...but the RWC doesn't.... so dont try to shush us away because of that... also, bring NATO in..I could care less... it'll make a damn good RP... however, we should get seperate threads going for each part of the war to sort things out..and then make a central thread with all the links for a bit of organization.


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4. Stop screaming Tyrandis, and start using your head... flaming wars suck ass, so don't start one... sole OOC messages also suck ass... I dont have to god damn maneuver until I get close..THAT'S WHY ITS CALLED CRUISE SPEED... of course I have to realistically slow down as I start to engage... I got Mach 2.9 to Mach 3.4 on STRAIGHT TRAJECTORIES...use your god damn head man...

OOC:

1. Realistically I never got that message... I don't know wether your planes are going to attack me or try to have intercourse with me in the air... so, realistically I had two options that I have time to think of now... leave, or protect..I decided with the latter, and now you and I are officially at war.

Huh? :confused: I relayed a message over the global radio channel, ordering your planes out of my airspace. Also, they were under orders not to pursue past Tyrandisan airspace, so trying to lure them into HH's SAMs was pointless.


2. If you try to active ping me from a ship my anachoic tiles are going to absorb. Sonar bouys are something different, but why the hell would you have sonar bouys around your port areas without you knowing about a enemy submarine presence..well you might have in order to watch out for Huzen Hagen's fleets, but you never posted it, so ICly you never did.... Catepillar drive is too silent..it's slower than nuclear..but it's silent... you would have to know the specific sound... and at real timing it sounds like sharks having hard sex... you would have to analyze the sound on tape... that's how my subs got through.

I only got the chance to make one IC post, in response to your recon flights. I always have sonar buoys active, considering overall paranoia. Either way, that missile attack is ignored, as are your subs in my waters.

1. According to your post you relayed the message once you were getting towards my aircraft... I picked up the aerial contacts as soon as you got off the runway...I received the message too late..in any case I would refuse to get out - that's why I attacked you.

2. Oh, so not because it fits you best you have sonar bouys? If you have sonar bouys all the time it also means that you're not monotoring all of them... also, sonar bouys stop working at some point, so your sonar is going to start faltering if you have them ALL THE TIME... ALSO, I was wrong - sonar bouys send out active pings..which are for the most part absorbed by the anachoic tiles....

3. Stop ignoring and respond god dammit...I thought you were a good RPer...not some ignoring flame warrior...I guess you only like war when its going your way.


I'm getting tired of this OOC shit...start RPing.... on the aerial war I dont give a shit if you sent a million message at me... I'm still attacking you... on the naval war I still think I'm right...but if you insist I'll find another way to attack you...but I believe I'm right..

As soon as radar went down, every gun, missle, and laser in the fleet everywhere went active. IFR and Ladar (Laser-Radar, it does actually exist, developed by General Dynamics about a decade ago) went active imediately. The incomeing missiles were detected as well as the aircraft.

The outer ships, mostly Tessie frigates and a few Jennifer McGuire class Destoryers, opened up with RAM and F-40 CIWS on the missiles. The ships also turned their broadsides towards the missles, in an attempt to sheilld the carriers. The missiles and rapid fire 40mm cannon cut down a large number of the missiles, but every single small ship was hit.

As the incomeing missiles passed the pickets, the larger ships, specifically speaking, Andrews class heavy cruisers, opened up with their large numbers of F-40 mounts and RAM launchers. They also employed their shipborne lasers. These lasers, developements of the ALL program, were able to quickly dispach missiles. However, not quickly enough. All of the cruisers were also hit.

The 3 carriers at the center of their battle groups had begun evasive manuvers, as well as makeing a cloud of chaff thick enough to walk on. Each carrier mounted 30 F-40s and 25 RAM launchers, enableing huge amouts of ammunition to be expended towards the missiles. Also, their 4 laser stations opened up. At least 10 missiles struck the CNS Do or Die, while the CNS Saint Patrick took 13 missiles. CNS Saint Patrick was struck by no less then 23 missiles.

At this point, casulities are uncertin, as well as for the numbers of sunken ships. However, all of the carriers except CNS Saint Patrick are reporting stable conditions, and are maintaining flight operations.

As soon as the enemy fighters were detected, every ship in the combined task force opened fire with their Mk 26 launchers on them. The Mk 26 launchers fired a vast number of Standard SM-7-4 missles (trimodal, medium range, high speed, ship to air missiles). Hits were confirmed.

As of this moment, confirmed by satalite imagery, The Commonwealth of Seversky is at war with The Macabees. Already, a nuclear depth charge attack was made on a group of their submarines near the engagement area, and the entire Victor B.Mk.4 force is prepareing to attack their carrier task forces.





The Commonwealth MoD has promised nothing short of nuclear winter in revenge for this blantant and unprovoked attack on Commonwealth ships in international waters.


-Commonwealth Press Release.

OOC: Alright, you want a war, you got it. However, I'm rather curious as to how your fighters can sustain Mach 3, without the airframe collapsing or the pilots suffering miserably. What tech level are they?

IC:

Bastards. was the collective thought of the ground control of the coastal defenses. Tyrandis had no quarrel with the Macabees, beyond an ideological arguement or two. Now however, it was war...

The initial strike by the Kondor bombers knocked out two radar stations, but the others targeted quickly activated their THEL defense systems, its laser burning through the warheads and detonating them before the stations could be destroyed.

Meanwhile, the 120 JAS-39 interceptors took note of the Macabee Hawk fighter mobilization, and subsequently armed their ALRAAM missiles, the latest in medium-range AA missile technology. With a range of 80 km, the ALRAAMs had also a scramjet engine, having a max speed of Mach 3.2, slightly slower than the Macabee equivalent.

Thanks to their overwhelming numerical superiorty, some 14 missiles were launched at each Hawk.

Attempts to crack the Archer missiles were mixed; a good eighty fighters managed to break free, although forty were shot down.

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On the main naval port closest to the RWC forces, the 502nd Wolfpack sprang into action. Composed of fifty Aquadragon-class Anti-Shipping Ekranoplans and twenty Wolfeater-class Anti-Submarine-Warfare Ekranoplans, the small, fast fleet quickly moved into towards the Huzen Hagen units. Due to their incredible speeds (OOC: 500+ mph), the main guns on their battleships and destroyers were rendered useless.

"This is the TSN Starflame, enemy fleet targeted. Beginning attack, with missile tubes 1-6 armed and ready, as well as decoys."

Each Aquadragon carried 40 SS-N-19 Shipwreck missiles, the finest AS weapon in the world. Capable of devastating any seaborne threat, a sum total of 400 missiles and 600 decoys flew towards each of the Amphibious assault groups, condemning the poor bastards on board to sure death.

Simply put, the mass of missiles would overwhelm any attempt to counter. AEGIS could do nothing against such a huge strike.

The Wolfeaters hunted down the various Seawolf submarines, as well as anything else that could possibly threaten the main fleet.

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Meanwhile, all across Tyrandis, forces are called up for the defense of the nation...

OOC: I hope you don't mind, but this will have to be suspended until I can get allies to come over. It's not much fun fighting a war against 5 different nations, after all :)

As soon as the first shots were fired the fleets began to move into a more defensible combat positions approx. 300 miles off the Tyrandis coast.

The 3 fleets position the ships in a square grid pattern to allow for maximum defense from all angles of attack and to allow CIWS from different sectors to support each other.

The Submarines within the fleet establish a 40 mile perimeter around the fleet and switch to silent running lieing in wait for any enemy subs or ships to pass by.

The fleet begins launching 25% of all fighters putting 240 fighters in the air(half F-40 Vampire, half F-42 Tiger Shark.) An additional 8 AWACs are launched to coordinate the fighters and provide radar jamming.

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secret ic: 4 EMP satelites are being thrust into position over Tyrandis.

OOC:

1. I have no clue how Seversky got a bearing on my wolfpack...so his "nuclear" depth charges are ignored.

2. I'm guessing my wolfpack attack on Tyrandis was ignored...therefore the wolfpack is still 200 kilometers from Tyrandis.

3. SS-N-19s suck.... CIWS can take them down like flies...and so can S-400s.

4. THEL required EXACT radar feeds...with my radar jamming devices I seriously doubt you got that feed in time.

IC:

[Sea War With Seversky]


"We got a contacts bearing towards us at high speeds. Possible SAMs," one of the pilots relayed over the radio. SM-7-4s filled the air targeted towards the Macabee Kondors and Hawks; the SM-7-4s were a high speed missile, however, should it go under 2.5 they would be ripe pickings for the A-11/Gs, and should they go over that the Kondors and Hawks would be able outmaneuver them without incident. A missile trying to turn at over Mach 2.5 would simply disintegrate in the air. In any case casualties were inevitable and eight Kondors were downed, along with three Hawks. No pilots were able to bail.

However, this was not the end of operations. As the Macabee aircraft went back to their carriers, kicking in the afterburners, another wave headed towards Seversky's fleets. This time fifty MMA-A1 Kondors and one hundred MMA-A2 Hawks went into the air. The Macabees simply did not have the numbers present to sustain such heavy aerial combat in such a short time span. However, they would attempt their best.

Cruising at high speed this time the aircraft wouldn't miss. With enemy SAMs under reload process they would have a hard time countering this attack. Additionally, with the 7 to 1 logistical ratio the Macabees kept the Macabee aircraft could be replinished rapidly rapidly and sent back into combat. It was a merry go round warfare. The Kondors again kept under one hundred meters while the Hawks kept a higher altitude. This time radar jamming was unnecessary - the Seversky fleets were already in enough turmoil sending radar waves tracking the fleeing first wave of Macabeen aircraft. They would have a hard time resisting the second wave of attacks.

This time the aircraft would stay out of range of the enemy sams, some one hundred and sixty kilometers off. From there the Kondors fired their MAS-1s, which sea-skimmed at Mach 1.8. To protect it from CIWS it had a 45mm deflector plate and it's speed allowed it to maneuver around anti-missiles. Not only that but it's sea-skimming nature would mean that enemy radar would most probably have a hard time picking the baby up. A total of another two hundred MAS-1s were launched against Seversky's carrier task forces.

Again the Hawks did a rear guard action while the Kondors blazed back to the home carriers to re-stock. All the while the first wave landed and was immediately refueled and restocked. Small barges were having a dandy day doing day and night operations to supply fuel and ordnance to the carriers from the Zarbian port. Around the clock flights were also being commited from the Macabee provence of Tortuga Isle, only 200km from Zarbia, to the Zarbian port.



[Air War With Tyrandis]

OOC: What about my attack on your SAMs...which seems to be made of the THEL system....

IC:

The Hawks were outgunned but still managed to fire their entire missile stocks at the enemy... meaning a change of planned numbers. A total of five A-11/G Archers were fired per enemy fighter, ensuring their deaths. However, the Macabee fighters also had an ensured death. All thirty Hawks were downed, only six pilots escaping into the Tyrandian bliss.

The Kondors would not go home without helping their brothers in arms, even if it meant their deaths. They used their own four A-11/Gs each to hit the Tyrandian aircraft from the belly as they slammed up and towards the enemy fighters from their own altitude.

This Morning the Parliament of Dr_Twist Approved the Mobilization of the Atlantic Fleet to the Region. The Government Stated that the Movement was in the Interest of World Peace and our Allies.

Dr_Twist.

Hmm tagdy

OOC:Ok Tyrandis, i got to get my head round this, you have ships that can move 500mph and carry 40 shipwrecks? give me an explenation of them and then i'll write an IC post.

Severesky, dont use nukes. They suck, all it means is we all die and where is the fun in that.

OOC: A normal sized SNN can carry about 28 SS-N-19s...however, if they carry torpedoes their SS-N payload is going to be smaller.... the fastest ship I've seen goes at about 60 knots (the fastest war ship)...that's about 100 mph I believe...I dont know the exact conversion for nautical miles to miles.

60 knots is about 70 MPH.

ooC: can everyone make a post of exactly what military assets they have in the area?

HP is sending the following to the area;

1 HMS "Assassin" 1st Class Flagship
5 Firestorm "Underworld III" Arsenal Ships
5 Aasimar "Forest VIII" Class Battleships
10 Ticonderoga Imperator XI" Class Cruisers
10 Farragut "Bloodhound 3" Class Destroyers
10 Warrington "Brimstone II" Class Frigates
2 JFK "Sol 1" Class Carriers
30 Lich II "Wildfire 5" Class Attack/Defence Submarines

We haven't forgotten Seversky threatened that we would feel his wrath if we continued to sell biochem weapons. We did and nothing happened. Seversky now you're going to feel our wrath wether you like it or not.

The Imperial Fleet that was about to arrive at Zarbia (In other thread) has now been diverted to head towards Tyrandis.

Tag

OOC:

1. All I have to date are ten SSNs... air power is stationed in Zarbia..not at sea.

2. In any case each nuclear depth charge is going to cost you about 28 million a piece.... you're going to have to drop some fifty depth charges per submarine if you're lucky...meaning it's going to cost you a total of some 1.4 billion USD per submarine killed.... yea, nuclear depth charges just aren't feasable.

IC:

[The Sea War : Tyrandis]

Then ten Type II SSNs were two hundred kilometers fm the major Tyrandian navalbase, which was on high alert ever since the start of hostilities. However, two minutes ago satellite MRS-11 passed over the naval installation, giving the submarines perfect coordinates for the attack from long range. The wolfpack was at one hundred and forty feet under the surface of the water, with catepillar drives on to silence themselves, in case any choppers were listening on passive. ESM was open for sporadic messaging.

In a minute's time a total of three hundred Principe IIIs filled the air and hit one hundred meters altitude.They quickly dropped to three meters altittude to sea-skim. Scramjet engines propelled the rockets at Mach 2.1 down towards its targets. At seventy kilometers from target they turned on their jammers. The effects of this were manifold. First, it would take Tyrandis some seven minutes to burn through the jammers, and secondly they would most probably mistake the attack for a missile attack. At fifty kilometers range the Principe III missile capsle broke dorpping their torpedoes (one each) nose first into the water. The torpedoes,three hundred total, made their way towards the enemy at 67 knots. Inventive rubber "stoppers" on the screws silenced the propellers, meaning that passive sonar would have a much more difficult time picking the torpedoes up. Carriers wouldreceivedseven torpedoes, everything else would receive two two. Since the homing devices was not through sonar countermeasures wouldnot work against the Macabee torpedoes.

The wolfpackremainedat two hundred kilometers range, however, the rapidly dived to one thousandfeet. A sattelite would pass over the base in forty minutes to asses damage done to Tyrandis. In two hours the SSNs would head back to Zarbia to be re-supplies with more Principe IIIs to do some more damage.


[Zarbia]
The rumors were already out. Redeployment to Zarbia. Already six airfields were holding four hundred MMA-A2 Hawks and three hundred MMA-A1 Kondors to complement the carrier based aircraft. Soon enough another two airfields would open, and would hold a total of seventy MMA-C1 Albatross Heavy Bombers. This massive aerial firepower would continue to be the first weapons of the war.

Another forty Type II SSNs were making their way to Zarbia to continue operations. By air, and by sea, thousands of MK 48/MT1 torpedoes, and Principe IIIs, as well as thousands of MAS-Is, A-11/G Archers, SA-5 SAMs, Praetorian IVs, Legionatus Is, MAAM Ausf. B Cruise Missiles, and much more. Merchant convoys were coming every day twice from the Macabe's territories of Tortuga Isle, Freemantia or NDA, or from the Macabee Mainland.

On the ground two hundred thousand infantry would soon be deployed to Zarbia. ith them came twenty thousands tanks (six thousand Panzerkampfwaggen IX Sargon Ausf. Bs and six thousand Panzerkampfwaggen VIII Nebuchadnezzar Ausf. Cs), five hundred 155mm Chevallier SP artillery, two thousand Panzerwerfer '04 MSLR systems, fifteen thousand paratroopers, one thousand two hundred SAMs and much more. Although any ground operations in Tyrandis were a way off it was much better to be prepared.

Lastly, just requested were fifty MMH-A1 Augustus Gunships and fifty MMH-B11 Tiberius Anti-Tank Choppers. Also, shippingwere also one hundred MMA-D1 Transport Choppers.

OOC:Ok Tyrandis, i got to get my head round this, you have ships that can move 500mph and carry 40 shipwrecks? give me an explenation of them and then i'll write an IC post.



Google Ekranoplans. They're essentially flying boats, which the Russians tested and built in the 1970's, but abandoned due to the reduction in military budgets.

All I did was take the concept and ran with it.

OOC: Ok after seeing several pictures of the aircraft... it doesn't look like it can take 40 SS-N-19s...and I doubt it can go at 500mph and sea-skim...but I'll roll with it... let's just get the RP going.

We are goint to help our ally Tyrandis,

We are sending the following IDF Air Force planes: (many are reserve units)
412 F/A-22A
2,414 F-35A
756 F-15E
356 F-15C
2,756 F-16C
456 F-14D
244 F/A-18E
578 F/A-18C
675 F-4G (some are Wild Weasels)
256 FB-111G Aardvark
356 B-52
98 B-2A
148 B-1B
512 Tu-22N Backfires
1,248 AH-64D
448 RAH-66A
984 AH-1U
287 KC-135
42 KC-767
56 KC-10
498 C-141
112 C-5A
208 C-17
871 C-130
56 E-3C
21 E-767




Naval forces being called up:
5 of the new 12 Tribes class (all that have been finished as of yet) (190 F-35s each)
11 Yorktown CVNs (90 F-35s each)
6 NImitz CVNs (70 F-35s each) (3 are Naval reserve)
12 de Gaulle CVNs (45 F-35s each)
3 Guillen Dreadnoughts (yes the big guns!)
24 Arizona BBGNs
9 Iowa II BBGNSs (7 of which are reserve)
11 Cherokee missile platform ships
20 Imperator missile platform ships (9 are naval resrve)
20 Kirov CGN (5 are reserve)
71 Ticonderoga II CG
74 Farragat DDG
117 Arleigh Burke DDG
145 Ilan Ramon DDG
45 Kidd DDG (all reserve)
15 Spruance DD (all reserve)
685 Chicago FFG
225 Oliver Hazard Perry FFG (all are Naval Reserve)
478 Assorted logistical surface ships
18 Wasp II LHDs
65 Galaxy SSNs
45 Seawolf SSNs
81 Los Angeles (improved)
51 Upholder SSK
19 Kilo SSK

LAND:
1 million infantry (in 50 divisions of 20,000)
7,500 tanks (in 50 divisions)

AA and Artillary mixed into these divisions

OOC: here we go!

IC: As soon as the first shots were fired against RWC forces the fleet springs into action. Fighter coverage and AWACs head out to positions 120 miles away from the fleet preparing to engage enemy cruise missiles and enemy fighters.

Each ship in the fleet switches there main radar frequency to a unique frequency per ship to severely lessen the effects of enemy jamming(on top of that the ships are linked into a shared grid so even if a ships radar is jammed it can see the battle.) The Jets and AWACS do the same linking into the grid.

All CIWS systems go hot and start scanning the sky and waterlevel for incoming missiles and bogeys.

Submarines lay in wait guarding the fleets perimeter for enemy contacts...


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Attack against ground assets:

From various ships across the fleet over 1200 tomahawk cruise missiles are launched into tyrandis territory.

The missiles targeting is as follows:
200- directed against Air defense and early warning systems
300- directed against Tyrandis air bases. Main targets include: Control Towers, Supply depots and important runway junctions.
100- directed at coastal defense and military shore instalations
100- targetted at military C&C, HQ and C3I installations
225- Targetted against Tyrandis infrastructure positions. Key targets: Powerplants(including dams), Oil refineraries, Rail and Road junctions, Bridges, sewage and water purification plants
75- Directed at governmental buildings including rulers house, and any parliamentry buildings.
200 indiscrimantely targetted at capitol city. Half are generaly aimed into the highest concentrated residential distract in the city the others are divided evenly amongst the financial and industrial parts of town.

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Anti fleet Ops-

As the tomahawks were being let loose by other ships in the fleet, other groupings began firing Javelin anti shipping missiles at the remaining enemy surface fleets.

General stats on Javelin AS SL(ship launched)
Lenght: 20 feet long.
Range:300 miles sea skim mode. 500-600(depends on weather conditions) high attack mode
Speed- Mach 3-4 seaskim mode. Mach 4-5 high attack mode.(extra speed is gained due to the high altitude of attack at 45 degree angle)
Warhead- 100 pounds silicone composite explosives(4x stronger then conventional explosive so treat it as a 400 pound warhead.)


Both the seversky fleet and the Tyrandis fleet will have 225 Javelin missiles launched at them in High attack mode(ooc: assuming that the fleets are more then 300 miles apart considering the size of the thearte of operations.)
They are targeted equally among all ships in the fleet.

HP is sending the following to the area;

1 HMS "Assassin" 1st Class Flagship
5 Firestorm "Underworld III" Arsenal Ships
5 Aasimar "Forest VIII" Class Battleships
10 Ticonderoga Imperator XI" Class Cruisers
10 Farragut "Bloodhound 3" Class Destroyers
10 Warrington "Brimstone II" Class Frigates
2 JFK "Sol 1" Class Carriers
30 Lich II "Wildfire 5" Class Attack/Defence Submarines

We haven't forgotten Seversky threatened that we would feel his wrath if we continued to sell biochem weapons. We did and nothing happened. Seversky now you're going to feel our wrath wether you like it or not.
OOC: HP I will ignore you in this fight as you have no nation anymore (Guerrilistan owns you)

We are goint to help our ally Tyrandis,

We are sending the following IDF Air Force planes: (many are reserve units)
412 F/A-22A
2,414 F-35A
756 F-15E
356 F-15C
2,756 F-16C
456 F-14D
244 F/A-18E
578 F/A-18C
675 F-4G (some are Wild Weasels)
256 FB-111G Aardvark
356 B-52
98 B-2A
148 B-1B
512 Tu-22N Backfires
1,248 AH-64D
448 RAH-66A
984 AH-1U
287 KC-135
42 KC-767
56 KC-10
498 C-141
112 C-5A
208 C-17
871 C-130
56 E-3C
21 E-767




Naval forces being called up:
5 of the new 12 Tribes class (all that have been finished as of yet) (190 F-35s each)
11 Yorktown CVNs (90 F-35s each)
6 NImitz CVNs (70 F-35s each) (3 are Naval reserve)
12 de Gaulle CVNs (45 F-35s each)
3 Guillen Dreadnoughts (yes the big guns!)
24 Arizona BBGNs
9 Iowa II BBGNSs (7 of which are reserve)
11 Cherokee missile platform ships
20 Imperator missile platform ships (9 are naval resrve)
20 Kirov CGN (5 are reserve)
71 Ticonderoga II CG
74 Farragat DDG
117 Arleigh Burke DDG
145 Ilan Ramon DDG
45 Kidd DDG (all reserve)
15 Spruance DD (all reserve)
685 Chicago FFG
225 Oliver Hazard Perry FFG (all are Naval Reserve)
478 Assorted logistical surface ships
18 Wasp II LHDs
65 Galaxy SSNs
45 Seawolf SSNs
81 Los Angeles (improved)
51 Upholder SSK
19 Kilo SSK

LAND:
1 million infantry (in 50 divisions of 20,000)
7,500 tanks (in 50 divisions)

AA and Artillary mixed into these divisions


OOC: Did I just count over 6,000 fighters...possibly over 7,000?? Ummm...I call BULLSHIT on that one.... I'm sorry but logistically for your nation that many be your entire damn air force..and those ships? SSKs!!!! I doubt your diesels have enough range. I could care less about your navy...but your airforce is just WAYYYY too large to support for a nation your size...seriously....I'm keeping it real with some 1,300 fighters total maximum..up to now I've used about three hundred.... so keep it real yourself...

ooc: uh IDF did you just send your entire air force here cause thats over 10 thousand planes. Im going to have to agree with mac and call BS. Thats a logisitcal nightmare for you(amount of planes plus all the different models) and a huge logistical nightmare for tyrandis who has to figure outwhere to land em

OOC: Macabees, could you please clarify as to how your Hawk fighters can sustain Mach 3 without the airframe collapsing or your pilots being roasted?

Also, Belem, I'm rather curious as to how you can project an EMP wave from space, but w/e, I'm still blowing them up. Aren't you being attacked by Soviet Bloc right now?

As with IDF, I ignore HP since he's owned by someone else now.

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IC:

Orbit of Earth, Tyrandis Strategic Reconnaisance Interdiction

The sudden re-routing of 4 of Belem's satellites did not go unnoticed by the intelligence agencies of Tyrandis. Eight SRI units were routed to intercept them, all armed with Seraphim-class missiles.

Then from each platforms in orbit, fifty missiles were launched at the target, in waves of ten at a time with twenty decoys surrounding them. This would ensure that any attempt to intercept the missiles would fail miserably.

Also, all of the Macabee intelligence-gathering satellites, being targeted ever since the flare-up in Zarbia, found themselves facing twenty missiles fired at each from the platforms.

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[Attacks by RWC forces]

The missile attacks against the coastal defenses caused minor damage, considering the number of missiles that were launched. Most installations were underground anyways, meaning that the most damage they did was a broken antenna or two. The Red Arrow SAMs purchased from United Elias did their jobs wonderfully, knocking out most of the Tomahawks.

Damage: One installation destroyed, four others damaged.

Meanwhile, the attacks launched against the airfields were intercepted by JAS-39s armed with AIM-54 Phoenix missiles. Any that escaped found themselves crushed by THELs. However, significant damage was done to one, as the pilots were not able to get to their fighters quickly enough.

Damage: One runway totaled, forty fighters destroyed.

Considering the fact that all Tyrandis command stations were underground bunkers, the damage caused by the strikes there was negigible.

Damage: Some destroyed above-ground communications equipment.

Meanwhile, the attacks against the civilian infrastructure were catastrophic, with one dam knocked out, flooding an entire city. Some ten thousand were killed. However, all others were protected by S-500 or Red Arrow defense systems.

Damage: One destroyed dam + town.

The attack on the legislative buildings and capital were rather pointless; after all, the capital was thousands of miles away inland. However, the explosives did cause major damage to the countryside.

Damage: 2,000 killed.

The Macabee attack, on the other hand, caused extreme damage. Two Nimitz-class carriers were destroyed, as were twenty Mule-class logistical Ekranoplans. Also, the Iowa-class battleship TSN Grey Knight was heavily damaged by the Belem strike.

Damage: One cripped battleship, two destroyed carriers, and 20 logistical units.

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Orbit of Earth, Tyrandis Strategic Strike Platforms

In response to this atrocity, three Strategic Strike Platforms, hovering dangerously over the enemy fleet ever since the conflict began, were activated.

The capital of Zarbia already felt the sting of Rods from God; now it was time for the enemy fleet to face it...

Satellites SSP-53251 and SSP-53241 readied their targeting arrays. The RWC fleet would fall beneath a storm of 200 tungsten-alloy rods shot from high orbit at speeds exceeding 36,000 feet per second. Estimated damage from this strike would be enormous, exceeding even the devastation of Zarbia City. There would be no way to counter the storm from the heavens. Meanwhile, the third was leveled at the Macabee troop congregation in Zarbia, it firing all 150 the SSP carried.

Fifty were shot at the Belem fleet, fifty more at the Huzen Hagen carrier groups, ten at the Macabee submarine group, and forty more at the on-coming Intelligent Neighbors fleet. They would wreak an ungodly wrath...

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Declaration of War on Belem, The Macabees, and Intelligent Neighbors

In response to the disgusting treachery shown by these three nations, the Militant Empire of Tyrandis henceforth declares WAR upon these rogue states.

Let it be known that Tyrandis will not rest until these foreign fleets are repelled from our borders.

Once Zarbia has been repaired and has its head on its shoulders, we will send troops to support our allies.

OOC: Did I just count over 6,000 fighters...possibly over 7,000?? Ummm...I call BULLSHIT on that one.... I'm sorry but logistically for your nation that many be your entire damn air force..and those ships? SSKs!!!! I doubt your diesels have enough range. I could care less about your navy...but your airforce is just WAYYYY too large to support for a nation your size...seriously....I'm keeping it real with some 1,300 fighters total maximum..up to now I've used about three hundred.... so keep it real yourself...

OOC: I am able to do it because I have a small number of ground troops. Most nations put the bulk of funding to the ground, I put it in the air and Navy.

6,000 fighters is not a stretch since the US had almost 5,000 during the Cold War and I am 4 times their size.

My SSKs can make it as there are submarine tenders and oilers traveling with the group. Tyrandis is very close to me anyways so they won't have to refuel once on the journey, but they will refuel to conduct bombat ops.

ooc: uh IDF did you just send your entire air force here cause thats over 10 thousand planes. Im going to have to agree with mac and call BS. Thats a logisitcal nightmare for you(amount of planes plus all the different models) and a huge logistical nightmare for tyrandis who has to figure outwhere to land em
OOC: Tyrandis is very close to my nation so logistics aren't a problem. There aren't that many different models and actually most AFs would have more (The US would have more types of choppers and cargo planes.

I have the number of planes as I spend very little on my Army.

ooc: nope that war get basically retconned because beuchoria refused to post because we posted numbers in attacks.

ooc 2: whats damage to attack on fleet?

Space attack: The 4 sats are destroyed from the enemy missile attacks.

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sea attack

The tungsteen weapons did limited damage to the fleet considering the distance between ships(ooc: ships ussually leave a quarter to half mile of space between each other.) Also the fact that the effect of a Kinetic energy weapon is seriously limited at sea since ships are designed to withstand heavy waves.

However 2 Destroyers and a frigate are sunk from being directly hit by the rods and half a dozen other ships are damaged lightly to moderately damaged.

[Space Orbit]

The MAAM Space Attack Platforms picked up the Tyrandian attack on Reconaissance Sattelites. Original MAAM missiles were launched to counter the Tyrandian attack, and most of the Tyrandian atmospheric missiles were shot down. Slight damage was done to one Macabee sattelite, putting it out of action. Other sattelites merely boosted themselves out of orbit for some twenty minutes before returning.

It was time for the Macabees to respond. The MAAM space platforms stayed foward and they began to spray some twenty MAAM atmospheric attack missiles at each Tyrandian sattelite and weapons platform in space. The Macabees had a total of one hundred thousand MAAMs stockpiled in space through the decades of operational use. It was now time to use those missiles against a true enemy. Major targets including those dasterdly rods which were striking Macabee troops and allied naval ships.


[Zarbia]

The Tyrandians would find their plans foiled. With most of the current men in Zarbia the rods killed only some three thousand people, mostly civilians or ligistical personnel. The men that were to operate in Tyrandis had not even arrived yet, and they would be too sporadically placed to kill in one big attack.

OOC: Sorry for the crappy post. No time..no time.

OOC: I am able to do it because I have a small number of ground troops. Most nations put the bulk of funding to the ground, I put it in the air and Navy.

6,000 fighters is not a stretch since the US had almost 5,000 during the Cold War and I am 4 times their size.

My SSKs can make it as there are submarine tenders and oilers traveling with the group. Tyrandis is very close to me anyways so they won't have to refuel once on the journey, but they will refuel to conduct bombat ops.


OOC: Ummm my ass? You have over 1 million men in Tyrandis as ground troops... first of all a million man army is barely feaseble..the only place I've used one is in Zarbia because I wanted the war over with, and I'm 2.7 billion in any case..... so, yea your aircraft numbers are pure bullshit... I mean, your navy is HELL of large..that task force is amazinly LARGE..over 100 Frigates and the same number of destroyers? c'mon now..

ooc: nope that war get basically retconned because beuchoria refused to post because we posted numbers in attacks.

ooc 2: whats damage to attack on fleet?


OOC: I already posted, you crippled an Iowa-class.

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway, after carefully considering the situation has decided to enter the war on the side of Tyrandis. The kind of unprovoked aggression displayed by the attacking nations will not be tolerated by our government.

The 1st, 2nd and 3rd Fleets are being mobilized and readied to sail to Tyrandian waters to fight off the invaders.

OOC:Force descriptions forthcoming.

[Sea War : IDF]

The huge Israeli Task Force was pinging like crazy as they got closer to Tyrandis. Sonar bouys on passive had their monitors crammed with ships coming in from Israeli territory. Did they just invite the Macabees to destroy them? The Macabees sure thought so. From the Zarbian ports Destroyers and Submarine Raiders launched their MMH-C1 Sea Serpects to drop sonar bouys along the oncoming fleet's ASW perimeter, looking for submarines. The Sea Serpects kept low, out of radar, in order to do their reconaissance without incident from enemy aircraft.

All the while thirty of forty Type II SSNs made their way towards the outskirts of the IDF ASW perimeter. Thirty kilometers away from the ASW perimeter they turned on catepillar drive, meaning that the unexperienced IDF sonar crews couldn't pick the Macabees up. Active pinging would be absorbed by the anachoic tile layer around the hull of the SSN, reinforced with thin strips of gaucho. Eacth Type II carried a full load of thirty Principe IIIs, with six independent Mk 48/M1 Torpedoes. They couldn't fail. The Principe III had a range of five hundred kilometers - good enough range to slice the IDF fleet out of the water.

In the air the Sea Serpents kept on dropping sonobouys, and finally got contact with some sixty submarines. Thirty one were confirmed as Los Angeles, and the rest as Seawolfs. One pilot looked at his co-pilot and said, "Damn, this is a damn large fleet." He then smirked and radioed in he contacts, "Enemy submarines contact, bearing all over the damn place. Coordinates transmitted." From one thousand kilometers away the Submarine Raiders at Zarbia opened up. They launched one hundred modified Legionatus I missiles. Instead of carrying their normal dual 200kt warhead they carried the Mk 48/M1. It was an attempt to not move the Macabee navy but yet be in arms reach of the enemy. It would work too. The modified Legionatus I went into the air at one hundred and fifty meters altitude going for most of the trip at Mach 3.5 at that height. One hundred and fifty kilometers from IDFs fleet they were programmed to lower altitude to thirty meters above the surface of the sea. At fifty kilometers from targets ( that is fifty kilometers from the ASW perimeter - the contacted submarines) the Legionatus I missile capsules broke while the missile slowed to two hundred kilometers per hour, each dropping a Mk 48/M1 torpedo into the water.

"Splash." The torpedoes submerged and soon began to be propelled at 67 knots towards their target enemy Seawolfs and Los Angeles class submarines. Again, the torpedoes were not homed by sonar on thier computers - they relied on sonar from the sonobouys which kept constant contact - therefore, enemy countermeasures would fail. Consequently, destruction of all sixty contacted submarines was mostly assured. However, any more missiles could not be launched due to the sheer cost of the missiles. Although, more were expected to be built and launched to destroy the Israeli task force.

All the while the thirty submarines, some two hundred and fifty kilometers away from the main task force as it continued to meet up with Tyrandis, were at one hundred and fifty feet under water. Submerged, they were extremely quiet and still - nothing could pick them up. The captains in each submarine hesitated and then picked up the conn, "Fire the missiles."

All of a sudden a total of three thousand Principe III missiles screeched into the air at one hundred meters altitude. Immediately after they went back down to three meters to sea-skim and scramjet kicked in to propell them at Mach 2.1. They continued at this speed until they reached sixty kilometers range from the enemy; then it started to slow down increasingly until it hit two hundred kilometers per second for about ten seconds. In those ten seconds each Principe III broke and dropped a MK 48/M1 torpedo into the water. The torpedoes again hit the water nose first and begun to home in one enemy ships - all three thousand of them. IDF sonar screens would most likely be overwhelmed.

To confuse IDF even further random missiles turned on radar jammers before breaking their capsules which alerted radar defenses. Realistically IDF would start to look for aerial attacks, and then be suprised by the torpedoes. It was thought that IDF was generally screwed with this one.

The thirty SSNs dived to one thousand feet under water and in two hours would head back home. From mainland Macabea it was ordered that an additional two hundred Type II SSNs be sent to Zarbia in order to increase total submarine numbers to two hundred and forty SSNs. If the enemies thought big, so did the Macabees.

Force Description-

1st, 2nd, and 3rd fleets all have the same force descriptions

-2 Yorktown Class carrier-95 JSF,4 E-2C Sentry (AWACs),4 AE-6B Prowlers,8 S-3C Viking (ASW),8 helos
-3 Nimitz class carriers-24 F-14D, 36 F/A-18E Super Hornets, 4 E-2C Sentry (AWACs), 4 AE-6B Prowlers, 8 S-3C Viking (ASW),8 helos
-8 Upgraded Iowa Class Battle Ships
-10 Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruisers
-12 Arleigh-Burke Class destroyers
-12 Kidd Class destroyers
-14 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class ASW frigates
-8 Seawolf Class SSNs
-10 Upholders Class SSK's

(to be used if landings are neccesary)
-10 Wasp II assault carriers-15 JSF,30 Chinook,10 Apache Longbow,20 Blackhawk helo's. Each Wasp carries one division of Marines
-100 landing craft contained in each of the assault carriers.

OOC: Ummm my ass? You have over 1 million men in Tyrandis as ground troops... first of all a million man army is barely feaseble..the only place I've used one is in Zarbia because I wanted the war over with, and I'm 2.7 billion in any case..... so, yea your aircraft numbers are pure bullshit... I mean, your navy is HELL of large..that task force is amazinly LARGE..over 100 Frigates and the same number of destroyers? c'mon now..

"OOC" (I feel so nerdy when saying that, so I'll put it in quotation marks): Also remember that IDF is one of the largest arms manufacturer and seller in NS.

"IC": The Republic of Sandpit enters the War on the side of Tyrandis.

Our Contribution:

AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
1 National Class CVN (Charles de Gaulle Class CVN)
with 40 F-22A Raptors

CRUISERS
6 Malmo-Levine Class Cruiser (Carthage Class Air Defense Cruiser)
6 Nall Class Light Cruiser (Triara Class Light Cruiser)

DESTROYERS
12 Psychosis Class DDG (EM-300 'Pasha' Class Guided Missile Destroyer)

SUBMARINES
2 Domination Class SSGN (Ohio SSGN)

(details can be supplied;
aircraft carriers, fighters, submarines manufactured by IDF,
cruisers manufactured by Granzi,
destroyers manufactured by United Elias)

OOC: Maccabees, my ships aren't in position so you can't attack them. My planes are in Tyrandian AFBs, but that is it. My bombers are being based mainly out of my own Israeli AF bases.

My economy if Frightening and a million man army is actually small when militaries in NS are 1-5% of total population. I have the numerous frigates as frigates are cheap ships and I can build them because shipbuilding is IDF's #1 industry. just check the fortune 20 list, IDF shipyards is ranked 1st of 2nd every month in overall military sales.

My plane numbers are good because I figure Cold War USA had 5,000 fighters so my numbers are OK since I am more than 4 times the size and with a 36% military budget (according to thirdgeek budget calculator)

Please also note that our cruisers are outfitted with regular naval guns, as opposed to the original electro-thermal guns (that's a bit too future tech for me).

OOC: Maccabees, my ships aren't in position so you can't attack them. My planes are in Tyrandian AFBs, but that is it. My bombers are being based mainly out of my own Israeli AF bases.

My economy if Frightening and a million man army is actually small when militaries in NS are 1-5% of total population. I have the numerous frigates as frigates are cheap ships and I can build them because shipbuilding is IDF's #1 industry. just check the fortune 20 list, IDF shipyards is ranked 1st of 2nd every month in overall military sales.

My plane numbers are good because I figure Cold War USA had 5,000 fighters so my numbers are OK since I am more than 4 times the size and with a 36% military budget (according to thirdgeek budget calculator)


OOC: Your a joke... your ships are perfectly in position..they're god damn heading towards Tyrandis... I just sent ships and choppers to intecerpt...STOP BULLSHITTING PLEASE OR I'LL IGNORE YOU ALL...just handle the god damn attack instead of wimping out and godmodding your way out of it man... im about to cry due to the idiocy of the entire Tyrandis team.

OOC: Maccabees, my ships aren't in position, they are just leaving bases so you can't attack them. My planes are in Tyrandian AFBs, but that is it. My bombers are being based mainly out of my own Israeli AF bases. Also your post was full of godmodes anyways.

1. You just magically get in range past any SH-60 LAMPS IIIs or P-3Cs that will be along with the trip

2. You get within 30km (a little more than 1,000 yards) when my TB-25 thin line array can track tonal signs from 70,000 yards (based upon the RL TB-23 with a 60,000 yard range)

3.You assume my Sonarmen are incompetent when they are actually war veterans as you will see from my extensive Naval war history and numerous Naval wars, which far outnumber yours

4.You can't say I was pinging like crazy as you don't know my procedures

5. Your missile carrying the MK-48 is impossible as that torpedo weighs in excess of 2,200 lbs, far more than a cruise missile warhead.

6. Your approach to get targetting data was a godmode

7. I just called up the Naval personnel and told them to prepare the ships. 50% of them are in port and the rest are in oceans far away from the conflict and coming in at flank speed so you couldn't attact this fleet

8. A catipillar is very inneficient and only good at slow speeds and a high reactor power rating, which would give you away as quite often when not cavitating (and subs rarely cavitate) you pick up engine or powerplant noises

My economy if Frightening and a million man army is actually small when militaries in NS are 1-5% of total population. I have the numerous frigates as frigates are cheap ships and I can build them because shipbuilding is IDF's #1 industry. just check the fortune 20 list, IDF shipyards is ranked 1st of 2nd every month in overall military sales.

My plane numbers are good because I figure Cold War USA had 5,000 fighters so my numbers are OK since I am more than 4 times the size and with a 36% military budget (according to thirdgeek budget calculator)

OOC:

1. I have no clue how Seversky got a bearing on my wolfpack...so his "nuclear" depth charges are ignored.

2. I'm guessing my wolfpack attack on Tyrandis was ignored...therefore the wolfpack is still 200 kilometers from Tyrandis.

3. SS-N-19s suck.... CIWS can take them down like flies...and so can S-400s.

4. THEL required EXACT radar feeds...with my radar jamming devices I seriously doubt you got that feed in time.

IC:

[Sea War With Seversky]

"We got a contacts bearing towards us at high speeds. Possible SAMs," one of the pilots relayed over the radio. SM-7-4s filled the air targeted towards the Macabee Kondors and Hawks; the SM-7-4s were a high speed missile, however, should it go under 2.5 they would be ripe pickings for the A-11/Gs, and should they go over that the Kondors and Hawks would be able outmaneuver them without incident. A missile trying to turn at over Mach 2.5 would simply disintegrate in the air. In any case casualties were inevitable and eight Kondors were downed, along with three Hawks. No pilots were able to bail.

However, this was not the end of operations. As the Macabee aircraft went back to their carriers, kicking in the afterburners, another wave headed towards Seversky's fleets. This time fifty MMA-A1 Kondors and one hundred MMA-A2 Hawks went into the air. The Macabees simply did not have the numbers present to sustain such heavy aerial combat in such a short time span. However, they would attempt their best.

Cruising at high speed this time the aircraft wouldn't miss. With enemy SAMs under reload process they would have a hard time countering this attack. Additionally, with the 7 to 1 logistical ratio the Macabees kept the Macabee aircraft could be replinished rapidly rapidly and sent back into combat. It was a merry go round warfare. The Kondors again kept under one hundred meters while the Hawks kept a higher altitude. This time radar jamming was unnecessary - the Seversky fleets were already in enough turmoil sending radar waves tracking the fleeing first wave of Macabeen aircraft. They would have a hard time resisting the second wave of attacks.

This time the aircraft would stay out of range of the enemy sams, some one hundred and sixty kilometers off. From there the Kondors fired their MAS-1s, which sea-skimmed at Mach 1.8. To protect it from CIWS it had a 45mm deflector plate and it's speed allowed it to maneuver around anti-missiles. Not only that but it's sea-skimming nature would mean that enemy radar would most probably have a hard time picking the baby up. A total of another two hundred MAS-1s were launched against Seversky's carrier task forces.

Again the Hawks did a rear guard action while the Kondors blazed back to the home carriers to re-stock. All the while the first wave landed and was immediately refueled and restocked. Small barges were having a dandy day doing day and night operations to supply fuel and ordnance to the carriers from the Zarbian port. Around the clock flights were also being commited from the Macabee provence of Tortuga Isle, only 200km from Zarbia, to the Zarbian port.

OOC:
1) You know what? I dont have a clue either, so forget i said that. sorry.

IC:
The Commonwealth Fleet was ready for the second attack.

A Skyship radar picket (Its a blimp) had watched the enemy aircraft launch the second batch of missles, and the fleet had been informed. Swift action was taken. Every piece of ECM in the combined 3 battle groups was turned on. The result was an area the size of Pennsylavania was jamed by a large number of the most powerful and sophisticated transmitters Seversky has to offer. Any missiles that seemed to still be locked on to a target, or seemed to be a threat to a ship were engaged, however, a large number did not have to be engaged. Flares and Chaff were also deployed.

The battered CBG has begun to withdraw. While no carriers were lost, several frigates, 3 destoryers and 2 cruisers were sunk. Over 5,000 men have died in this single attack alone.

Revenge would come in the form of a single Commonwealth Navy Victor PB.Mk.4.

[i]"Sir, Easy Victor has reported in. They've picked up the group the INTSATs spoted. We have a GPS coordenate."
"Good, plug the coordenate in, and then program the inertial nav system."
"Done and done"
"Remind me to promote you. Anyway, bombardier, you may fire when ready."

Shortly there after, 2 Puck Nuclear Anti Fleet missiles drop away from the Victor. Screaming towards the center of the enemy battle group at Mach 5 and at 15 feet, they spring up at the last moment to 1000 feet, and then enter into a terminal dive. Each warhead is enough to level a small city.

OOC: Your a joke... your ships are perfectly in position..they're god damn heading towards Tyrandis... I just sent ships and choppers to intecerpt...STOP BULLSHITTING PLEASE OR I'LL IGNORE YOU ALL...just handle the god damn attack instead of wimping out and godmodding your way out of it man... im about to cry due to the idiocy of the entire Tyrandis team.
OOC: you godmodded, I just posted I was preparing forces, I post when they get there so you stop godmodding. My fleets aren't there yet so you can't attack them

OOC: Since I have schoolwork to catch up on, so no more posts for tonight.

Working on another post for tomorrow, so please, don't do anything drastic. I don't want to wake up, log on, and find out that my nation is overrun by millions of troops.

1. You just magically get in range past any SH-60 LAMPS IIIs or P-3Cs that will be along with the trip

I doubt your LAMPS and your 3Cs can pick up catepillar drive..seriously..I've explained it before...it doesn't sound like a submarine..it sounds like a natural under water sounds.... and I was at 250kms range off your ASW perimeter.

2. You get within 30km (a little more than 1,000 yards) when my TB-25 thin line array can track tonal signs from 70,000 yards (based upon the RL TB-23 with a 60,000 yard range)

Negative...my subs were 250kms off your main fleet. Read again.

3.You assume my Sonarmen are incompetent when they are actually war veterans as you will see from my extensive Naval war history and numerous Naval wars, which far outnumber yours

Are you dumb? To know what catepillar sounds like your men need to have heard it before...since you haven't been in a war with me they haven't...so they are unexperienced in that respect.

4.You can't say I was pinging like crazy as you don't know my procedures

Again, are you dumb? Fleets ALWAYS ping as they move in convoys.

5. Your missile carrying the MK-48 is impossible as that torpedo weighs in excess of 2,200 lbs, far more than a cruise missile warhead.

Negative... the AS-19 Koala holds a dual 200kt warhead with a range of 4,000 kilometers...

6. Your approach to get targetting data was a godmode

Ever heard of SAT PASS you fool?

7. I just called up the Naval personnel and told them to prepare the ships. 50% of them are in port and the rest are in oceans far away from the conflict and coming in at flank speed so you couldn't attact this fleet

Your a god damn liar... you just said that fleet was heading towards Tyrandis... you dont know how much I hate you right now...all you do is lie to get out of the situation... I think we should all ignore your ass...

8. A catipillar is very inneficient and only good at slow speeds and a high reactor power rating, which would give you away as quite often when not cavitating (and subs rarely cavitate) you pick up engine or powerplant noises

Negative. Pluse as I said, I only used catepillar for the last dozen kilometers to my destination..then I did a full stop.

My economy if Frightening and a million man army is actually small when militaries in NS are 1-5% of total population. I have the numerous frigates as frigates are cheap ships and I can build them because shipbuilding is IDF's #1 industry. just check the fortune 20 list, IDF shipyards is ranked 1st of 2nd every month in overall military sales.

1 to 5% INCLUDING LOGISTICS YOU FOOL...the United States has a 10:1 logistical ratio...



I suggest the RWC just ignores IDF - he just refuses to take casualties because he knows he's going to get pwnd so bad in this war...don't worry if you try to do some actions in this war your going to get another batch of three thousand Principe IIIs.

Oh, and I've talked to about twelve naval experts and my Principe III is perfectly fine so dont give me bullshit about that.

ooc: basing this attack on the basis that Mac accepts the nuclear attack on his fleet. if he ignored it consider this post ignored too.

IC: After the nuclear detonations on the Mac fleet were detected the fleet prepared for nuclear retilation and readied there nuclear tipped Javelins. Within 5 minutes the missiles were ready to launch.
The fleet launches 160 Javelin antishipping missiles against the Severesky fleet 6 of the Javelins were nuclear tipped(about Hiroshima level maybe a little less) on high attack mode.

ooc: mac just one correction the logistics rate for the U.S. is about 1:3-5 since the U.S. adopted a joint forces Logistics approach where every service helps service the other branches. But thats pretty much as low as you can push the logistics rating without combat effiency suffering

Just for future reference what are the stats on the Principe III as I have no idea what it is.

OOC:
1) You know what? I dont have a clue either, so forget i said that. sorry.

IC:
The Commonwealth Fleet was ready for the second attack.

A Skyship radar picket (Its a blimp) had watched the enemy aircraft launch the second batch of missles, and the fleet had been informed. Swift action was taken. Every piece of ECM in the combined 3 battle groups was turned on. The result was an area the size of Pennsylavania was jamed by a large number of the most powerful and sophisticated transmitters Seversky has to offer. Any missiles that seemed to still be locked on to a target, or seemed to be a threat to a ship were engaged, however, a large number did not have to be engaged. Flares and Chaff were also deployed.

The battered CBG has begun to withdraw. While no carriers were lost, several frigates, 3 destoryers and 2 cruisers were sunk. Over 5,000 men have died in this single attack alone.

Revenge would come in the form of a single Commonwealth Navy Victor PB.Mk.4.

[i]"Sir, Easy Victor has reported in. They've picked up the group the INTSATs spoted. We have a GPS coordenate."
"Good, plug the coordenate in, and then program the inertial nav system."
"Done and done"
"Remind me to promote you. Anyway, bombardier, you may fire when ready."

Shortly there after, 2 Puck Nuclear Anti Fleet missiles drop away from the Victor. Screaming towards the center of the enemy battle group at Mach 5 and at 15 feet, they spring up at the last moment to 1000 feet, and then enter into a terminal dive. Each warhead is enough to level a small city.

OOC: I dont have any battlegroups in the area..but I'll respond anyways...

IC:

Radar quickly caught what seemed like two large cruise missiles coming towards the Macabee fleet in Zarbia. SAMs opened up almost immediately as the missiles were contacted. "They're coming at Mach 5 sir."

Triple SAM batteries opened up with a total of twelve Praetorian IVs. Six for each enemy missile. The Praetorian IV was an improvement on the S-400, which already had an 80% hit accuracy rate. The Praetorian IV enjoyed greater vectorin with greater thurst, hence increasing accuracy. Screaming into the air the first one whizzed past the target however the others exploded both nuclear warheads in the air.

Macabee policy was to react with nuclear warheads of their own. Sversky would soon see pain. The Macabee's power was their sheer size...if IDF could have 10,000 aircraft the Macabees could have their missiles. One thousand nuclear tipped Legionatus I missiles went into the air and made their way at one hundred and twenty meters altitude towards Seversky's fleets. Just one of those with their dual 1,000 kg nuclear warhead could destroy the Severkian fleet... no doubt allied fleets would also be affected..but only with minor damage that the Macabees could pay off.

The Macabees thought that nuclear weapons were weapons of terror. The Macabees didn't like terrorist. After this attack the Macabees warned Seversky to stay out of the war. For many other thousands of missiles were ready to flatten their nation if necessary.

OOC: 1,000 nuclear tipped missiles? I agree with you that 10,000 airplanes is a god-mod, but I'm going to have to say this is too, and each with a dual 1,000 kg nuclear warhead? How could you possibly get that much uranium, much less refine it to weapons grade, and still have much left over for the rest of your nuclear forces. It would be good if you edited the amount of missiles.

Just for future reference what are the stats on the Principe III as I have no idea what it is.

OOC:

Ok, basing it off modern technology and modern missile launched torpedoes, as well as modern anti-shipping missiles, along with the Artitsan AM-96/L which I caught and stole in a war with one of his buyers I designed my own missile a while ago.

Basically, it's an Mk 48/M1, a lighter version of the Mk 48, with a slightly smaller warhead, however, made up OctaNitroCubane, which as a 25% strength augmentation to the normal Octagen used by normal missiles. It's sea-skimmed by a rocket/missile booster which is larger than most used in the real world. It has a scramjet engine propelling it at Mach 2.1, however, due to physics it slows down for about ten seconds at drop range (50 kilometers) to 200 kilometers per hour and drops its torpedo nose first...the torpedo kind of stagnates a few kilometers in the water before picking up a rate of 67 Knots.

I've already gone through with a US Air Force Special Operations, my uncle who's a submarine expert, my physics teacher (another naval expert), several websites, several other critics, and I've gotten green lights from all of them... this is my own technology of course.

I've forgotten key details, but you get the picture.

OOC: I dont have any battlegroups in the area..but I'll respond anyways...

IC:

Radar quickly caught what seemed like two large cruise missiles coming towards the Macabee fleet in Zarbia. SAMs opened up almost immediately as the missiles were contacted. "They're coming at Mach 5 sir."

Triple SAM batteries opened up with a total of twelve Praetorian IVs. Six for each enemy missile. The Praetorian IV was an improvement on the S-400, which already had an 80% hit accuracy rate. The Praetorian IV enjoyed greater vectorin with greater thurst, hence increasing accuracy. Screaming into the air the first one whizzed past the target however the others exploded both nuclear warheads in the air.

Macabee policy was to react with nuclear warheads of their own. Sversky would soon see pain. The Macabee's power was their sheer size...if IDF could have 10,000 aircraft the Macabees could have their missiles. One thousand nuclear tipped Legionatus I missiles went into the air and made their way at one hundred and twenty meters altitude towards Seversky's fleets. Just one of those with their dual 1,000 kg nuclear warhead could destroy the Severkian fleet... no doubt allied fleets would also be affected..but only with minor damage that the Macabees could pay off.

The Macabees thought that nuclear weapons were weapons of terror. The Macabees didn't like terrorist. After this attack the Macabees warned Seversky to stay out of the war. For many other thousands of missiles were ready to flatten their nation if necessary.

OOC: Yeeaahhh... 1,000 nuclear missiles with a DUAL 1k kg warhead? WTF?

How the god damn hell did you refine that much uranium?

Of course, if you dipped into your strategic reserves... I'd understand.

Then I'd respond with my other SSPs over your nation, smashing the capital and all military installations into oblivion. After that, I'd launch a full-fledged invasion :D

OOC: 1,000 nuclear tipped missiles? I agree with you that 10,000 airplanes is a god-mod, but I'm going to have to say this is too, and each with a dual 1,000 kg nuclear warhead? How could you possibly get that much uranium, much less refine it to weapons grade, and still have much left over for the rest of your nuclear forces. It would be good if you edited the amount of missiles.

OOC: No doubt under normal circumstances it is a god mod... I don't have much other nuclear forces thought..this is the FIRST time I've ever used a nuclear weapon...I just used it because it's the first time I've been attacked by a nuclear weapon too...I don't plan to use any more nukes in any war unless someone else uses them against me...my numbers stand... oh, I know its a big waste of resources.

(This is my first war, so please bear with me. Also, the Republic of Sandpit would ignore any nuclear missiles exceeding 100)

The two Domination Class SSGN from the Republic of Sandpit has arrived within striking distance of Macabee's Fleet in Zarbia. Sandpitian radar had also caught the two Puck Nuclear Anti Fleet missiles heading towards Macabee's fleet, and the one hundred nuclear tipped Legionatus I missiles heading towards Seversky's fleet.

In a show of solidarity, Sandpit has decided to join Seversky's attack. Even though the Republic only sent two subs to this war, it was prepared to lose them both. The crew on board has high morale, and all are prepared to die for their country. Two hundred Tomahawk criuse missiles were launched in the general direction of Macabee's fleet.

(It would help, The Macabees, if you posted your order of battle)

OOC: Just to state, NATO does NOT support Tyrandis. IDF has declared support for tyrandis, but that is the extent of NATO support. Also, where exactly is Tyrandis?(I assume its in the Real World territory, like an island or something, as IDF stated its close).

IC: Chellis has declared support for the members against Tyrandis. While it has not been decided whether military support, or just economic/etcetera support will be given, but chellian fleets near Marsailles are preparing to ship out for any missions given.

The first wave of fighters was being prepared for a strike against the Tyrandis Fleet. 100 F35B JSF fighters roared off the runways of the carriers. They carried a mixture of Hex, Awe King and normal Missiles, designed to combat enemy naval and air units (Look here for info about the missiles (http://www.freewebs.com/intelligentproducts/munitions.htm)). The pilots were ready to carry out the will of the Emperor and flew gladly towards the Tyrandis fleet, knowing that some of them may not return. While still out of range of the Tyrandis fleet, they launch 50 Hex missiles, which scream towards the enemy positions. They continue to move towards the fleet, on a straight course at high speed.

OOC: Please post casualties Tyrandis, make sure to look at the hex info:

"Can be surface or air launched. This is a sea skimming missile that communicates with other Hex missiles fired to make sure that there are no multiple hits on one ship. The missiles track the larger ships first and weave in a random pattern to reach their target. The explosion generated is capable of at least crippling a carrier, if not sinking it. When these were tested in a war against an enemy navy, 10 missiles managed to knock out 7 ships, 4 of them carriers. The missile can be fired from out of firing range of the fleet and is fire and forget."

OOC:OK, i'll let your fast ships slide but unless you can give me some data on your tungsten rod satellites i wont acknowledge them. I have no problem with tungsten rods, infact i have one satellite of my own, but after a bit of research i found that you cant just fire endless rods as if you want them coming down with any kind of speed your going to recharge your capacitors after every shot depending on their size.

IC:

{sea war with tyrandis}

As the hulking soviet missiles screamed toward the Huzeny fleet, Guardian [an automated fleet defence network, i was going to right a thread about it but havent foundthe time yet] picked them up instantly and began to defend the fleet. Half the fleets surface to surface ships were in a position to use at least one of their Posidoen CIWS [35mm weapon linked to guardian] and most ships that could would autmaticly launch some of their defensive missiles.

As the missiles got closer crews held their breath and prayed for salvation for the oncoming storm, finally the fleets type 45 destroyers let loose the first slavo of Aster 30's when the enemy salvo was at a range of 80km. The fleet was lit bythe trails of one salvo after another. In all each type 45 fired 10 Aster 30's [400 missiles in all].

As soon as the Aster 30's reached their targets Guardian would evaluate what they took down and launch several salvos of Aster 15's at the remaining missiles.

Men dashed to and fro bracing themselves for the devestation that would result in one of those missile hitting anything. Posidoen CIWS warmed up and readied themselves to act as the last line in the desperate defence of the Huzeny fleet.

OOC2:Posidoen CIWS's arnt independant, they are linked into guardian, which is linked into all the radar, ladar and other data form the ships meaning its far more effective then normal missiles. It is given a target rather then searching for the one it thinks is best and will defend ships other then its own

The aster's can take loads of up to 60g's and have a fantatic end game so they are superb defence missiles

EDIT: as we are in different time zones i should probably post some form of attack

IC2: The carriers of the fleet began scrambling fighters, they were taken off guard but they were going to make sure they hit the bastards who attacked them hard. Within minutes of the salvo 40 F-18CSJ's were in the air and poised to attack the enemy shipping. Below them the fleet erupted with fire as it tried to defend itself. They began searching for targets. The Tyrandis Ekranoplans looked like a good enough target, they would have had to slow down to fire their payload of missiles. The pilots began to climb in prepration for their run..

Several (5) B-52's that had been enroute to the area for the exercise now found themselves desperatly needed, they decided against persuing the escaping Severesky fleet but help with the attack on Tyrandis shipping. They were all armed with the latest Huzeny ASM that was to be used in the exercises but now found itself a more meaning full purpose.

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OOC: at this time I'm ignoring Macabee's attack on my Navy as it was a godmode. My ships and subs don't use active SONAR since it gives away not just their position, but my sub's position.

Caterpillar drive can be heard and is so inneficient that your reactor noises will give you away.

Plus, my Helos and P-3Cs drop lines of sonobuoys and use MAD gear so your subs wouldn't be so stealthy.

I want to know how it is possible to put an Mk48 on a missile, heavyweight torpedoes weighing about 2,400 lbs are too heavy for a missile and would not be able to enter water at high speeds from the missile without severe damage to the torp. The 48 is much heavier than the air dropped Mk-46s and 50s.

I want to know how your subs get within 30km without being detected by my own Sonobuoys and TB-25 thin line arrays.

I want to know your planes flying low are able to avoid detection from the Aegis (which is designed to track low flying objects, including smaller, lower flying cruise missiles from further distances than you were. I want to know how they avoided my numerous AWACs that would be up patrolling and how they dodged my F-35s and F-14s flying permiter BARCAP. I just don't see how your attack occurs without massive godmodding.

You say that my fleet was already there, but I bet if I had launched an attack 1 minute before you planned to post you would accuse me of godmodding how my fleet travels so quickly and ignore it.

IC: As the IDF fleet finally came within 250 miles of the patrol area (which is about 500 miles of Tyrandis' coast) the CO ordered his subs to spread out to form a 360 degree circle. The smaller, quieter diesel boats took turns staking out forward positions and moving back to the center of the fleet when they snorkeled.

IDF High command was ready. At the moment that IDF ships reached Waypoint Lima as it was called, strategic command began firing off 125 SS-N-18 Satan ICBM missiles.

The missile had been designed to carry the largest ICBM carried warhead, but instead each had a single MOAB as the payload.

These former nuclear monsters were aimed at the bulk of the enemy fleet. Each bomb could flatten almost 4 square miles of a city with their large conventional explosions. This was their 1st wartime use on large fleets.

They were targeted at mainly cap ships such as Carriers and battleships and large concentrations of smaller warships like cruisers and destroyers.

This launch's results would dictate the progression of worldwide naval battles.

OOC:can i just ask how you have a military?

The medium-sized, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Commerce. Income tax is unheard of

you dont have tax, that means your government doesnt have a budget, which means you cant have a military or am i missing something?

OOC:can i just ask how you have a military?

The medium-sized, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Defence, Law & Order, and Commerce. Income tax is unheard of

you dont have tax, that means your government doesnt have a budget, which means you cant have a military or am i missing something?
OOC: check the third geek budget calc. my link isn't working so find you. If you have no income tax you make money off of exise tax, industrial tax, sales tax, import-export tax, and other taxes that are non-income. According that calculator, which takes into effect tax rates I have a over $2 trillion military budget

Chuckles at $2 trillion figure.

My stats (http://www.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?region=The%20Kingdom%20of%20the%20Midlands&nation=intelligent_neighbors)

OOC: I dont have any battlegroups in the area..but I'll respond anyways...OOC: I didnt say in the area. You were launching attacks from carriers, and those were the ships i was referring to.

IC:

Radar quickly caught what seemed like two large cruise missiles coming towards the Macabee fleet in Zarbia. SAMs opened up almost immediately as the missiles were contacted. "They're coming at Mach 5 sir."

Triple SAM batteries opened up with a total of twelve Praetorian IVs. Six for each enemy missile. The Praetorian IV was an improvement on the S-400, which already had an 80% hit accuracy rate. The Praetorian IV enjoyed greater vectorin with greater thurst, hence increasing accuracy. Screaming into the air the first one whizzed past the target however the others exploded both nuclear warheads in the air.
So you're telling me that you have the technology to detect 2 missiles, traveling at Mach 5, at 15 feet, constructed of composite materials, and appx the same size as a tomahawk cruise missle? Thats pretty iffy... They would be pretty close to your fleet before you could detect them by anymeans, much less radar.


Macabee policy was to react with nuclear warheads of their own. Sversky would soon see pain. The Macabee's power was their sheer size...if IDF could have 10,000 aircraft the Macabees could have their missiles. One thousand nuclear tipped Legionatus I missiles went into the air and made their way at one hundred and twenty meters altitude towards Seversky's fleets. Just one of those with their dual 1,000 kg nuclear warhead could destroy the Severkian fleet... no doubt allied fleets would also be affected..but only with minor damage that the Macabees could pay off.

That fleet isnt there anymore. It withdrew. Standard procedure for withdraw for a Severskian naval force is to scatter. While yes, you could track it down and destory it that way, that's not going to be a good idea. Mainly because you should be worring about the other 1398 Victor B.Mk.4s carrying 2 Puck AFMs each that now know where your fleet is. Anyway, you could not take out more then 3 ships with any one blast, and all of my ships (everywhere) are still under a very think and warm security blanket we like to call Electronic Counter Measures.


The Macabees thought that nuclear weapons were weapons of terror. The Macabees didn't like terrorist. After this attack the Macabees warned Seversky to stay out of the war. For many other thousands of missiles were ready to flatten their nation if necessary.

NEED I REMIND YOU SIR! that the only reason that Seversky is engaged in this conflict is because of your deliberate and unprovoked attack on my fleet in international waters, which was minding its own business and was not within 237 nautical miles of any other nations shipping at the time. YOU starting this with a blatent act of war.

Also, the Severskian armed forces deploy maybe the largest amout of nuclear weapons of anyone. Seeing as how our crusiers deploy nuclear tiped anti aerocraft missiles, our carriers still carry stretegic nuclear bombers and we deploy nuclear anti fleet missiles at will.

And further more, the other reason for this post was simply because i lack the imagination currently to RP, but felt i should show that i'm still alive. I shall return later tonight to begin a real effort.

</Long OOC post>

We support any action taken by Seversky in responding to the nuclear attack on his fleet.


TO: Severksky
From: IDF
If you respond in kind to that attack on your fleet, we will not object and will quietly support you.

OOC: Seversky you still have to post damage from my nuclear/conventional attack against your fleet.

"OOC": Also Macabees, you have to post damages from my Tomahawk missile attack (sorry if it's a bit short and badly written, like I said, it's my first war).
Also, please post an order of battle.

(This is my first war, so please bear with me. Also, the Republic of Sandpit would ignore any nuclear missiles exceeding 100)

The two Domination Class SSGN from the Republic of Sandpit has arrived within striking distance of Macabee's Fleet in Zarbia. Sandpitian radar had also caught the two Puck Nuclear Anti Fleet missiles heading towards Macabee's fleet, and the one hundred nuclear tipped Legionatus I missiles heading towards Seversky's fleet.

In a show of solidarity, Sandpit has decided to join Seversky's attack. Even though the Republic only sent two subs to this war, it was prepared to lose them both. The crew on board has high morale, and all are prepared to die for their country. Two hundred Tomahawk criuse missiles were launched in the general direction of Macabee's fleet.

(It would help, The Macabees, if you posted your order of battle)



OOC:

1. TENEX SPY-6 can easily pick up those missiles...EASILY..and I use a modified TENEX SPY-6.

2. IDF...my subs weren't 30 kilometers from your fleet..they were 250 damn kilometers off...but ignore my attack....

3. Order of battle? Almost none..right now a total of 200 Type II SNNs, just freshly arrived from the mainland. Some ten carriers, and a lot of other type of ships...

Directed to Sandpit...

4. Umm... an SSN can only carry about 28 Tomahawks.... so two... they would carry a total of 56 Tomahawks...so what you want to do?

OOC: Ah yes..if my nuclear attack is really a god mod just ignore it... all that happened is that I shot down your nuclear weapons...quite easily at that.

[QUOTE=The Macabees]OOC:

2. IDF...my subs weren't 30 kilometers from your fleet..they were 250 damn kilometers off...but ignore my attack....

QUOTE]

OOC: You posted they were 30km away when they put the caterpillar on.

OOC: I'll send troops if the RWC secures a beach landing, I'm a bad naval RPer.

Free bump too.

OOC:

1. TENEX SPY-6 can easily pick up those missiles...EASILY..and I use a modified TENEX SPY-6.

2. IDF...my subs weren't 30 kilometers from your fleet..they were 250 damn kilometers off...but ignore my attack....

3. Order of battle? Almost none..right now a total of 200 Type II SNNs, just freshly arrived from the mainland. Some ten carriers, and a lot of other type of ships...

Directed to Sandpit...

4. Umm... an SSN can only carry about 28 Tomahawks.... so two... they would carry a total of 56 Tomahawks...so what you want to do?

(Is #1 for me?)

"OOC": My specs (provided by IDF, by the way) say "VLS for 156 TLAM Tomahawk cruise missiles or Tactical Tomahawks" but I assume that they cannot be launched all at once. So, I'll say that a total of 200 missiles were launched in five stages of forty missiles each (twenty per sub)

(Is #1 for me?)

"OOC": My specs (provided by IDF, by the way) say "VLS for 156 TLAM Tomahawk cruise missiles or Tactical Tomahawks" but I assume that they cannot be launched all at once. So, I'll say that a total of 200 missiles were launched in five stages of forty missiles each (twenty per sub)
OOC: To elaborate here, that ship he used was the Ohio SSGN conversion, a real life US Navy warship. Pretty much the Navy took the 1st 4 Ohio class SSBNs and converted them to SSGNs. They each carry in RL 156 of they aformentioned missiles and are able to carry other types with modifications

OOC: Jesus christ, I told you guys to not get so far ahead of me. Could someone send a recap? Please?

Aside from that, what exactly are your demands? Why are you attacking me, anyways?

The first wave of fighters was being prepared for a strike against the Tyrandis Fleet. 100 F35B JSF fighters roared off the runways of the carriers. They carried a mixture of Hex, Awe King and normal Missiles, designed to combat enemy naval and air units (Look here for info about the missiles (http://www.freewebs.com/intelligentproducts/munitions.htm)). The pilots were ready to carry out the will of the Emperor and flew gladly towards the Tyrandis fleet, knowing that some of them may not return. While still out of range of the Tyrandis fleet, they launch 50 Hex missiles, which scream towards the enemy positions. They continue to move towards the fleet, on a straight course at high speed.

OOC: Please post casualties Tyrandis, make sure to look at the hex info:

"Can be surface or air launched. This is a sea skimming missile that communicates with other Hex missiles fired to make sure that there are no multiple hits on one ship. The missiles track the larger ships first and weave in a random pattern to reach their target. The explosion generated is capable of at least crippling a carrier, if not sinking it. When these were tested in a war against an enemy navy, 10 missiles managed to knock out 7 ships, 4 of them carriers. The missile can be fired from out of firing range of the fleet and is fire and forget."

OOC: Post casualties from my orbital strike against your fleet first. Then I'll post casualties. Aside from that, my main fleet in the area just isn't there, having been deployed recently to Russia. They're returning right now. Plus, isn't it a bit god-moddy to say that a SINGLE missile can take down a carrier? I call BS.

Also, Huzen Hagen, I shot one thousand total missiles at your amphibious groups. While there are only 400 actual SS-N-19s, (the others are decoys), they'd easily overwhelm any defense system, including CIWS.

I had a long, detailed post on my SSP system, but it got lost in the transfer. Basically, the SSP has two things, a targeting array and a launcher. The targeting array feeds coordinates to the launcher, which fires the rods one at a time in intervals of ten seconds.

IC:

Orbit of Earth, Defense against Macabee attack

The missiles launched by the MAAM platforms did not go unnoticed; the laser defense arrays mounted as a standard defense on all Tyrandisan satellites were activated, shooting the missiles down as they came on. One SSP was damaged heavily, resulting in it being knocked from orbit.

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Task Force GUARDIAN, returning from Russia, 500 km away from RWC fleets

The victorious fleet returning from the recent war in Russia was utilized fully. Covered by P-3C Orions with MAD detection equipment, any attempt by enemy submarines to intercept would be detected and crushed.

Two Ohio-class SSBNs, armed with Fasthawk cruise missiles with EMP warheads, began the attack against the invading fleets.

Aboard the TSN Valor, the crewmen began the attack against the Huzen Hagen carrier groups. The TSN Deathbringer, on the other hand, launched its missiles at the Belem fleet.

The Fasthawks were a modification on the original Tomahawks, the primary difference being that the Fasthawk had an advanced scramjet with a max speeds of up to Mach 7.2. Of course, it only kicked in at the last 200 kilometres to the target, the Fasthawk's cruise speed being Mach 3.4.

The Valor surfaced and launched its full complement of 50 EMP Fasthawks, with 100 decoys surrounding them. Even if only one managed to hit, the warhead was powerful enough to totally disable a Yorktown-class carrier.

(OOC: Missiles are directed primarily at carriers and destroyers.)

Meanwhile, the Deathbringer also surfaced and launched its own complement of 70 EMP Fasthawks surrounded by some 150 decoys.

After this attack, some one hundred twenty five Aquadragon-class Ekranoplans from GUARDIAN moved towards the RWC fleets, SS-N-19s armed and ready. Like a pack of wolves, they advanced at a speed of 450 mph, ready to crush the invaders.

In the distant horizon, a massive fleet of Yorktowns, Iowas, AEGIS advanced... (OOC: Will post exact numbers next.)
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ASW Operations

"This is Kingfisher, I've got anomalies on MAD detection bearing zero-niner-zero." radioed a P-3C pilot to the Wolfeaters on the sea. Covered by JAS-39 Griffons from the 5th and 8th Interceptor Wings, the Orions had to hunt down the cowardly submarines, one by one.

Finding the Macabee subs wasn't too hard; they just had to look where the missiles came from.

"Roger that Kingfisher, this is Scales, beginning attack on target."

Armed with 60 EMP and 120 normal depth charges, the Wolfeater was the latest in ASW design.

MAD sensors on the Wolfeaters indicated the position of the Macabee subs.

"Scales to all, begin attack."

Some 200 EMP charges were detonated, ensuring that the insulation of the submarines would fail. Of course, there might be a few that escaped the shockwave, resulting in over 400 depth charges being launched.

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Activation of Aerial Assets

Radar from AWACS patrols quickly detected the five B-52s, causing the mobilization of another Interceptor Wing. Considering that the Huzen Hagens had neglected to provide air cover... they would be slaughtered by the ALRAAMs.

Thirty more JAS-39s took off from Firehawk AFB, and moved in for the kill.

"This is Rapier-One-Seven, I've got bogeys on radar. Beginning attack run."

In total, over 50 ALRAAMs were fired at the bombers.

OOC: There is NO WAY they can survive that attack.

Meanwhile, the 42nd and 56th Bomber Wings were launched, a total of thirty TSB-8X Sea Talon torpedo bombers. These would be directed against the enemy fleets...

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Official Statement from the Office of the Executor of Tyrandis

The Empire demands an explanation for the sudden attack on our sovereign nation. If it is not forthcoming, we reserve the right to respond with any measures deemed necessary.

What exactly is your goal in attacking us? You have not stated any intention.

Therefore, we now call for a temporary Cease-fire, until these issues have been clarified.

OOC: What exactly are you guys doing, anyways? I'm out of Zarbia.

IDF Guillen class flagship USS OZZIE GUILLEN

Admiral Jacob Joseph was at his usual chair. This was the 7th time his fairly new flagship had been sent to war. He looked at the recently rebuilt starboard part of the trimarian hull. THat part had taken some damage in previous wars, but was stronger than ever.

He awaited the BDA from the ICBM launch on the various enemy fleets, but expected good news.

He was in a war now, and that was what mattered. His submarines were extended about 75 miles out from the main bodies of surface ships and doing what they did best, ASW. He had a good fleet out there including the amazing Galaxy SSN, which was far better than any other SSN available.

His crews were mostly battle hardened vets and had previous experience with caterpillar drives from the TBD war and knew that reactor noises were louder than today's screws so finding them would be easy since the reactors ran louder when cat drives were used.

He also had hundreds of SH-60s dropping Sonoboeys and using MAD gear along with some P-3Cs. All were operating under an umbrella of fighter support.

8 new subs joined the fleet only a few hours before. They were among the 12 LaFayette class SSBNs converted into massive SAM carriers and were positioning themselves to surprise any air attack that may have come with their 200 SM-4ERs to launch at an unsuspecting plane/

He had 100's of Aegis warships from his Chicago FFGs all the way up to the Arizona BBGNs.

The numerous carriers were flying their stealthed F-35s, but in a crisis they could even call in support from land based fighters in Tyrandis that IDF had based there.

Admiral Jacob stood waiting and hoping that a cease-fire would be declared, but was ready for war.

OOC: Since I don't have time to post right now, and due to school, I need to get this war done with ASAP. Could you just post your demands?

Last post for now, might come back later.

The Wirrawayan fleets moved towards IDF's fleet massive fleet coming from Russia, hoping to link up The carriers had launched launched their Combat Air Patrols and AWACS.

A 150 mile ASW screen was set up by the destroyers and subs and air space was patrolled in a 250 mile radius. Individual subs ranged ahead, around and behind of the screen to provide advance warning in case of attack. Each fleet was 100 miles apart, creating 3 overlapping areas of coverage, it would be near to impossible for anything to penetrate the formation. The carriers clustered at the centers of the formations while their escorts radiated out in mulitple levels of defense.

The Upholder class SSK's alternated with the Seawolf SSN's as a forward gaurd. In a last minute addittion, two Ohio class subs converted to cruise missile carriers joined the fleet.

The Group was not radiating at this point, black strict radio silence was also enforced with messages being passed by flags or signal lights, they moved forward silently towards their objective.

OOC: tyrandis if those fasthawks are seaskimmers they would be ripped apart going mach 7 so close to the water.

OOC: Ah yes..if my nuclear attack is really a god mod just ignore it... all that happened is that I shot down your nuclear weapons...quite easily at that.
OOC: its not so much that its a god mod, its more of it just being impractical. I mean, you can feel free to despence nuclear weapons on individual ships, but its massive over kill.

IC: Following the withdraw of the 3rd Fleet (yes, I just now bothered to name that force), the Commonwealth Military was left with a very limited number of options of what to do. Naval engagements have already proved extreemly costly, while the prospects of fighting a successful airwar look girm.

However, The Commonwealth Military is willing to risk it.

Every carrier in the Commonwealth Fleet has been mobilized, all reporting to various Stations, most near The Macabees.

SAC has commited 3,000 B-52D-500V Stratofortresses as well as 1000 Victor EB.Mk.12s and a large number of various support craft such as EF-111s, EA-6s, and EB-66s. The entire SAC fighter command has been commited, some 400 Aerobonitia long range, highspeed fighters (5,000 nm range; Mach 1.5 cruiseing speed, Mach 2.4 max). These elements are prepareing for airstrikes against The Macabees.

However, due to downright horrible weather conditions over The Commonwealth, these opperations will not comence imediately. (OOC: and probably will be in a new thread)


Secret IC: The Devine Intervention and her escort raiders remain in the area of the engagements, picking up survivers. They do not fly under a Commonwealth flag, nor do they look like Commonwealth ships. They remain there mainly because noone has bothered to engage them.

ooc: basing this attack on the basis that Mac accepts the nuclear attack on his fleet. if he ignored it consider this post ignored too.

IC: After the nuclear detonations on the Mac fleet were detected the fleet prepared for nuclear retilation and readied there nuclear tipped Javelins. Within 5 minutes the missiles were ready to launch.
The fleet launches 160 Javelin antishipping missiles against the Severesky fleet 6 of the Javelins were nuclear tipped(about Hiroshima level maybe a little less) on high attack mode.
OOC: Ok, need I point out again that that fleet scattered and left? Under HEAVY ECM cover? The idea of launching antishipping missiles against ships that are spread out and virtually undetectable is crazy. You can either modify or cancel your attack. It will not be accepted as is.

OOC: satelite overflys will be able to locate the positions of your ships. Also if your ships started scattering after the launch of the first nuclear missiles they wouldnt be able to get that far in under 10 minutes.

And what type of ECM is your fleet using to mask itself?

Also, Huzen Hagen, I shot one thousand total missiles at your amphibious groups. While there are only 400 actual SS-N-19s, (the others are decoys), they'd easily overwhelm any defense system, including CIWS.

OOC:Yes that many missile would overwhealm a normal CIWS or a single ships sensors. Guardian is a system that econcompasses the enitre fleet, normally each piece of defence equipment is standalone but with this system its linked in with all the others meaning maximum efficiancy. I am aware you launched 1000 missiles, to get them all at 2 groups they would be so tightly packed you could use a rifle to take a load down and i launched 400 aster 30's at the the whole group of missiles not just the real ones. I will suspend ic posting untill this all gets sorted out.


What exactly is your goal in attacking us? You have not stated any intention.

Therefore, we now call for a temporary Cease-fire, until these issues have been clarified.[/i]

OOC: What exactly are you guys doing, anyways? I'm out of Zarbia.

OOC:Yes you are, by the time i was aware of you getting out of there and prepared to pack up and go you attacked me. Im acting in self defence, the exercises were designed to send a message to stop messing with Zarbia. You did and that should have been that (for me at least).

Well Tyrandis, I was unaware that my fleet had even arrived when your 'orbital strike' was commited.

As for the Hex missile supposed god-mode then I need to inform you of three things:

1. I did not make the stats up, the casualties caused by those missiles was posted by Verbotten Luftwaffe, who I have to say, is a far better RPer than you. He did not whine and wriggle his way out of casualties.

2. I did not say 1 missile took out 1 a/c carrier, multiple missiles hit it.

3. About 3 of those ships that were destroyed were wiped out by one of his oil/ammunition tankers exploding.

Not a god-mode, fact.

The Wirrawayan fleet slowed and stopped, 100 miles away from IDF's fleet too maintian radio silence a Seawolf was dispatched to speak to the commande of the IDF fleet, it closed in on the leading ASW defenses and surfaced to show it meant to harm and continued towards the flag-ship. A tender was launched from the sub and Captian Albus stepped onto the deck of the IDF flagship and went to meet the commander....

OOC: To elaborate here, that ship he used was the Ohio SSGN conversion, a real life US Navy warship. Pretty much the Navy took the 1st 4 Ohio class SSBNs and converted them to SSGNs. They each carry in RL 156 of they aformentioned missiles and are able to carry other types with modifications

Now would you post damages, The Macabees?

Thank You.

The Wirrawayan fleet slowed and stopped, 100 miles away from IDF's fleet too maintian radio silence a Seawolf was dispatched to speak to the commande of the IDF fleet, it closed in on the leading ASW defenses and surfaced to show it meant to harm and continued towards the flag-ship. A tender was launched from the sub and Captian Albus stepped onto the deck of the IDF flagship and went to meet the commander....

Admiral Jacob shook Captain Albus's hand once he entered the flag bridge of the gigantic dreadnougth USS OZZIE GUILLEN, the 1st of the Guillen class. He was planning on speaking to Albus about tactics and the joint barrier effort that the sub fleets would man. The barrier would stretch over 100 miles from the center of the group.



IDF's State Department was busy too.

Secretary Phillips had drafted a message to the RWC members. In it he asked them to consider the cease-fire as this war was caused by a mistake and millions shouldn't die for it. If they rejected the offer they would become the outcast of the International community for their warmongering when peace was offered.

Neighter party really understood the reasoning for the war so it shouldn't have started in the 1st place.

The Wirrawayan fleet slowed and stopped, 100 miles away from IDF's fleet too maintian radio silence a Seawolf was dispatched to speak to the commande of the IDF fleet, it closed in on the leading ASW defenses and surfaced to show it meant to harm and continued towards the flag-ship. A tender was launched from the sub and Captian Albus stepped onto the deck of the IDF flagship and went to meet the commander....

Admiral Jacob shook Captain Albus's hand once he entered the flag bridge of the gigantic dreadnougth USS OZZIE GUILLEN, the 1st of the Guillen class. He was planning on speaking to Albus about tactics and the joint barrier effort that the sub fleets would man. The barrier would stretch over 100 miles from the center of the group.



IDF's State Department was busy too.

Secretary Phillips had drafted a message to the RWC members. In it he asked them to consider the cease-fire as this war was caused by a mistake and millions shouldn't die for it. If they rejected the offer they would become the outcast of the International community for their warmongering when peace was offered.

Neighter party really understood the reasoning for the war so it shouldn't have started in the 1st place.

OOC: Huzen, clarify your damn numbers as to the strength of your fleet. If not, ignoring this. I think the whole thing sucks

Admiral Jacob shook Captain Albus's hand once he entered the flag bridge of the gigantic dreadnougth USS OZZIE GUILLEN, the 1st of the Guillen class. He was planning on speaking to Albus about tactics and the joint barrier effort that the sub fleets would man. The barrier would stretch over 100 miles from the center of the group.



IDF's State Department was busy too.

Secretary Phillips had drafted a message to the RWC members. In it he asked them to consider the cease-fire as this war was caused by a mistake and millions shouldn't die for it. If they rejected the offer they would become the outcast of the International community for their warmongering when peace was offered.

Neighter party really understood the reasoning for the war so it shouldn't have started in the 1st place.

Secret IC: Captain Albus followed Admiral Jacobs to the flag bridge and began to talk tactics. Although much the Admiral's junior in grade, the Captain was speaking on behalf of all the 3 Wirrawayan Fleets which represented fully 1/3 of Wirraway's Naval power and there-fore was on an equal footing with the Admiral.

Albus agreed that the two fleets should pool their submarine-reasources and ASW reasources. Being sub commander himself, he informed the admiral that with the amount of subs at their disposal they could create a 250 mile radius ASW screen. He also suggested that the two forces undertake joint aircraft and helo missions.

His last suggestion was that the Wirrawayan fleets stay in contact with the IDF fleet and have overlapping Aircraft coverage but maintain their distance to avoid clustering together and becoming easy targets.

I think the whole thing sucks
unless all the OOC arguments stop, ya.

OOC:Yes that many missile would overwhealm a normal CIWS or a single ships sensors. Guardian is a system that econcompasses the enitre fleet, normally each piece of defence equipment is standalone but with this system its linked in with all the others meaning maximum efficiancy. I am aware you launched 1000 missiles, to get them all at 2 groups they would be so tightly packed you could use a rifle to take a load down and i launched 400 aster 30's at the the whole group of missiles not just the real ones. I will suspend ic posting untill this all gets sorted out.

OOC: Ok then, I understand.


OOC:Yes you are, by the time i was aware of you getting out of there and prepared to pack up and go you attacked me. Im acting in self defence, the exercises were designed to send a message to stop messing with Zarbia. You did and that should have been that (for me at least).

Same here, I was ready to leave even before you guys sent your fleet exercises. It was Macabees's fault that this thing ended up becoming war, considering that he dispatched recon planes over my territory. All I did was post an interception, and he responded with a missile attack.

I was acting in self-defense as well, since I didn't know the RWC fleet was going to leave.

Since I really don't have time to RP a war properly (school), let's just finish this up with a cease-fire and truce.

Also, Belem, my Fasthawks are really just a two-stage Tomahawk with an improved engine.

REPEAT POST:

Well Tyrandis, I was unaware that my fleet had even arrived when your 'orbital strike' was commited.

As for the Hex missile supposed god-mode then I need to inform you of three things:

1. I did not make the stats up, the casualties caused by those missiles was posted by Verbotten Luftwaffe, who I have to say, is a far better RPer than you. He did not whine and wriggle his way out of casualties.

2. I did not say 1 missile took out 1 a/c carrier, multiple missiles hit it.

3. About 3 of those ships that were destroyed were wiped out by one of his oil/ammunition tankers exploding.

Not a god-mode, fact.

The Republic of sandpit has withdrawn its fleet because of the ceasefire.
(too bad, I fired 200 tomahawk missiles and didn't get a damage report)

The Republic of sandpit has withdrawn its fleet because of the ceasefire.
(too bad, I fired 200 tomahawk missiles and didn't get a damage report)
OOC: don't feel bad, it is better that you didn't get a damage report since if you did we'd be fighting a long costly war. I'll take peace anyday

IC: The IDF fleet with the exception of 2 carrier fleets and 2 surface fleets and a sub squadron will depart

OOC: don't feel bad, it is better that you didn't get a damage report since if you did we'd be fighting a long costly war. I'll take peace anyday

IC: The IDF fleet with the exception of 2 carrier fleets and 2 surface fleets and a sub squadron will depart

The 4th and 5th Wirrawayan fleets will return home, but the 6th will stay on station with IDF forces. They Wirrawayan fleet began to close with IDF's forces to form a large peace-keeping fleet.

REPEAT POST:

Well Tyrandis, I was unaware that my fleet had even arrived when your 'orbital strike' was commited.

As for the Hex missile supposed god-mode then I need to inform you of three things:

1. I did not make the stats up, the casualties caused by those missiles was posted by Verbotten Luftwaffe, who I have to say, is a far better RPer than you. He did not whine and wriggle his way out of casualties.

2. I did not say 1 missile took out 1 a/c carrier, multiple missiles hit it.

3. About 3 of those ships that were destroyed were wiped out by one of his oil/ammunition tankers exploding.

Not a god-mode, fact.

OOC:

1. VL has much more experience than I do. Your accusations of whining and wriggling out of casualties is an lie... did you not read the casualty posts from the RWC initial attack against my nation?

2. You said that 10 missiles managed to kill 7 ships.

3. Ok then, you should have clarified that.

Either way, this thing is done we've agreed to a ceasefire/truce.

OOC: I'm not totally aware of the cease fire but here's the casualty report for the two attacks on my fleets or w/e the hell you attacked. Sandpit, calm down..I haven't been on for the past two days.

IC:

[Sea War : Sandpit]
<<AWACS :: 400 kilometers out>>

"God damn, we got some fucking contacts. Slow ass mothafuckas."

The tactical officer working with the Gentle Poseidon Macabee SONAR systems looked at his several radar screens which was programed to divide the numbers of missiles between the screens equally to avoid overflowing of contacts, and then finally replied, "Tomahawks."

The tactical officer was on the submergible, HES Alcabades below the reconaissance aircraft. Alcabades rapidly relayed the information to ASW and to the main fleet, although it most probably had arrived on their radar screens already. The ASW was quick to respond...

On the HES Gabriel the XO yelled, "RRLs and SAMs on the ready!" Men began to run back and forth answering, "RRLs up," or "SAMs up!" When the missiles were one hundred and twenty kilometers away some forty seperate destroyers launched a total (total between all) of five hundred Praetorian IVs. The Praetorian IV was an S-400 with added vectoring by augmenting the thrust at the tip, and it increased accuracy from the original 80% mark on the S-400. Therefore, of the six hundred Tomahawks fired at the Macabee fleet which were trying to get through the ASW to the main fleet some four hundred fifty were downed immediately before getting past the ASW perimeter. Therefore, contact screens on the Gentle Poseidon of the main fleet the computer failed to overflow giving them perfect guidance for SAMs.

The main fleet put up an extra three hundred Praetorian IVs, and anything that got through that - some twenty missiles - were downed by active Metal Storm batteries and CIWS. Metal Storm was a type of anti-missile CIWS which fired a total of thirty six thousand grenade fragments per barrel into the air - each gun had some twelve barrels - and 2nd generation was already coming out with forty barrels per gun.

However, the reality of war was just that - the reality. Unfortunetly, some missiles got through tearing off the bow of the frigate HES Diana and sinking the cruiser HES Muse. However, all in all, the Macabees were better prepared for surface missile attacks. It took a while for Macabee enemies to learn that the era of surface missiles was long gone.

[Sea War : Tyrandis]


ASW Operations

"This is Kingfisher, I've got anomalies on MAD detection bearing zero-niner-zero." radioed a P-3C pilot to the Wolfeaters on the sea. Covered by JAS-39 Griffons from the 5th and 8th Interceptor Wings, the Orions had to hunt down the cowardly submarines, one by one.

Finding the Macabee subs wasn't too hard; they just had to look where the missiles came from.

"Roger that Kingfisher, this is Scales, beginning attack on target."

Armed with 60 EMP and 120 normal depth charges, the Wolfeater was the latest in ASW design.

MAD sensors on the Wolfeaters indicated the position of the Macabee subs.

"Scales to all, begin attack."

Some 200 EMP charges were detonated, ensuring that the insulation of the submarines would fail. Of course, there might be a few that escaped the shockwave, resulting in over 400 depth charges being launched.


What where the Tyrandians thinking? "Splash".... "Depth charge in water." The depth charges and EMPs merely blew up several hundred feet above the Type II Cartagena SSNs. The Cartagenas were already almost one thousand eight hundred feet under water and the Tyrandians would find it hard to find them.

OOC: Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... I'm wayyyy below the layer by now...your response is "a litte" late to find my SSNs.

OOC: I'm not totally aware of the cease fire but here's the casualty report for the two attacks on my fleets or w/e the hell you attacked. Sandpit, calm down..I haven't been on for the past two days.

IC:

[Sea War : Sandpit]
<<AWACS :: 400 kilometers out>>

"God damn, we got some fucking contacts. Slow ass mothafuckas."

The tactical officer working with the Gentle Poseidon Macabee SONAR systems looked at his several radar screens which was programed to divide the numbers of missiles between the screens equally to avoid overflowing of contacts, and then finally replied, "Tomahawks."

The tactical officer was on the submergible, HES Alcabades below the reconaissance aircraft. Alcabades rapidly relayed the information to ASW and to the main fleet, although it most probably had arrived on their radar screens already. The ASW was quick to respond...

On the HES Gabriel the XO yelled, "RRLs and SAMs on the ready!" Men began to run back and forth answering, "RRLs up," or "SAMs up!" When the missiles were one hundred and twenty kilometers away some forty seperate destroyers launched a total (total between all) of five hundred Praetorian IVs. The Praetorian IV was an S-400 with added vectoring by augmenting the thrust at the tip, and it increased accuracy from the original 80% mark on the S-400. Therefore, of the six hundred Tomahawks fired at the Macabee fleet which were trying to get through the ASW to the main fleet some four hundred fifty were downed immediately before getting past the ASW perimeter. Therefore, contact screens on the Gentle Poseidon of the main fleet the computer failed to overflow giving them perfect guidance for SAMs.

The main fleet put up an extra three hundred Praetorian IVs, and anything that got through that - some twenty missiles - were downed by active Metal Storm batteries and CIWS. Metal Storm was a type of anti-missile CIWS which fired a total of thirty six thousand grenade fragments per barrel into the air - each gun had some twelve barrels - and 2nd generation was already coming out with forty barrels per gun.

However, the reality of war was just that - the reality. Unfortunetly, some missiles got through tearing off the bow of the frigate HES Diana and sinking the cruiser HES Muse. However, all in all, the Macabees were better prepared for surface missile attacks. It took a while for Macabee enemies to learn that the era of surface missiles was long gone.

[Sea War : Tyrandis]



What where the Tyrandians thinking? "Splash".... "Depth charge in water." The depth charges and EMPs merely blew up several hundred feet above the Type II Cartagena SSNs. The Cartagenas were already almost one thousand eight hundred feet under water and the Tyrandians would find it hard to find them.

OOC: Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... I'm wayyyy below the layer by now...your response is "a litte" late to find my SSNs.

OOC: well the war is over so this doesn't matter, but this is more of an FYI post. I talked to a member of our temple about submarines (He was the Engineering Officer of a Lafayette SSBN during the bad ole' days of the Cold War and has been on every US sub class minus Seawolf and Virginia.

I talked to him as I'm hopefully going into the NROTC and hopefully going to end up on subs. He told me that actually layers are good for dodging torpedoes and active SONAR, but the depth charges would be dropped by helos, which would dip SONARs below the layer. The deeper a sub runs, the easier it is to hear. The optimum depth in most conditions is between 400-800 feet.

OOC: Yea, and I'm 1,800 feet under the surface of the water.... and he can't get MAD signals unless he's dipping under the layer..and since I'm 1,800 feet under the surface of the water his sonar isn't going to be that effective.... effective submarine submerging for most "NS modern" submarines is about 2,000 feet or more.

OOC: Yea, and I'm 1,800 feet under the surface of the water.... and he can't get MAD signals unless he's dipping under the layer..and since I'm 1,800 feet under the surface of the water his sonar isn't going to be that effective.... effective submarine submerging for most "NS modern" submarines is about 2,000 feet or more.
OOC: he won't get MAD, but if he dips active dipping sonar below the layer you are a sitting duck. Also, the deeper you go, the easier of a passive SONAR target you are since sound travels better the deeper you go.

OOC: Bah. I didn't read the part about you dipping your subs past the layer...

I kant reed cuz uf huked on phonix :(

Whatever, war's over.

Good game chaps.