NationStates Jolt Archive

"I come to you today as a broken man, We here at Weapons-tech incorp, made a statment that was not fair to the international community, We said some things that were wrong, and unfair to you. We had no intentions of stating our " supremness" thats not what we where tring to do. and if we came across that way to you we are truely sorry. We hope that we have not caused so much distrust with all of you and we hope that you will continue to do busniess with us. again we are sorry for the actions we took, and hope that we can rebuild our lost bonds."

Said by Terry Les Demones at a press confrenece early this morning.

everyone must read this

OOC Takes guts to admit you were wrong. Takes even more to come and apologise for it. Although my nation doesn't respect anyone, I personally can and this is worthy of at least some.

thank you for your reply, I know it is hard but I am not pridfull at least not anymore. i have been humbled by everyone, and i am truly sorry for what i did

OOC: What did you do? Can you link me?

I will tell you here. Because of what I am on this game It was hard for some people to decide about what i am, a corporate nation or a corporation by its self. I said somethings that made people mad. I went overbaord with a few thingsthat i said. People thought that is was making my self invincable, and now that i read it i see thier point. so I am apologising for what i said. So i dont want to have the thread to float around anymore.

yes, very admirable to stand it front of the people you told all these things to and then stand up again and admit your guilt. We applaud you

I respect the fact that you have apologized and that you realize your mistakes. Good job. :)

yes, very admirable to stand it front of the people you told all these things to and then stand up again and admit your guilt. We applaud you


OOC: Uh, why are you applauding your puppet?

are you still going on that. I dont have puppets, i dont even believe we should have puppets, ask my friend he plays the game to i know him i real life and he will tell you i have no puppets

The Supreme Imperial Empire of Reich ROTC

this is him just T.G. him and he will tell you.

:sniper: OOC: Here's a bullet through your aliby Hobbeebia. The illiteracy of both Weapons-tech and Hobbeebia is not only consistent, but identical in every aspect. This proves that they are one-in-the-same.

no ones perfect, and no one can make an assumption base only on that evidence, ( bullet misses)

no ones perfect, and no one can make an assumption base only on that evidence, ( bullet misses)

OOC: How about the fact that as soon as you sign on, Weapons Tech magically signs off?

I dont know,for a long time i always showed signed off even though i was on, maybe the same thing is happening here. But i cant explian it.

Listen, the guy who runs Hobbeebia isn't me. I don't know what it will take to convince you people that we are not on in the same. And hey Megas, I don't appreciate you randomly coming in here and making accusations like you have a right to. Apparently that was your first and only post. And though you may think you have a valid point, I bet there's hundreds of people who don't take the time to properly proofread their posts. But since I've gotten so much flak about that, I might as well start proofreading my own. Anyway, ask my friend the Federation of Excalibor. I see him almost everday and he doesn't know who Hobbeebia is either.

OOC: How about the fact that as soon as you sign on, Weapons Tech magically signs off?

First of all, that actually strengthens both Weapons-tech and Hobbeebia's arguments. If I had both of those nations, I would log them on at the same time. Would'nt that make more since?

Second, Weapons-tech just called me in real life and told me to check out these genuises. From what I see, none of you make valid arguements, and since there is no way to actually prove to you what I say is correct, you might as well just get off your high-horse. I mean, you'd have better luck arguing with a tree. (all though with the weak support you have the tree would probably win.)

Sorry if I may offend you Japanese dude, but the incompetence just gets me worked up. Its like beating on a dead horse. :)

Thanks Excalibor. And hey, I was just in the SAVRE thread, and there's some messages for you.

Uh yeah sure that's great but what the hell did Weapons Tech do? I mean if he Godmodded we should have Hataria's ass in here to. Please set up a link I would like to read how you fucked up.

Sure thing, and I already got them. MT got us a new track, and I like the one you posted in the forum.

First of all, that actually strengthens both Weapons-tech and Hobbeebia's arguments. If I had both of those nations, I would log them on at the same time. Would'nt that make more since?

Second, Weapons-tech just called me in real life and told me to check out these genuises. From what I see, none of you make valid arguements, and since there is no way to actually prove to you what I say is correct, you might as well just get off your high-horse. I mean, you'd have better luck arguing with a tree. (all though with the weak support you have the tree would probably win.)

How could you have two nations logged in at the same time? You'd have to keep logging in and out.

Also, Hobeebia said he uses the computers at school, and if the ip's are the same, then it's because the school gives out the same ip. However, he does make posts that are during the summer. Usually school is closed (in the US at least).

Really this is all speculation, nothing will be proven until an ip test is given.

Hobeebia, it's one thing that you can't fight your own battles (or debate your own debates), but calling someone to debate who refuses to refute my statements, and calls me incompetent isn't a good idea.

..........Incompetent sounds just about right. You blam Hobbeebia for trying to defend himself from your accusations, and he's the bad guy.... I find of alot of stupidity in that statment. If you were being accused of something wouldn't you like someone to come to you defence, yes. I have been keeping up with this thread and the other one. Hey guys just because Hobbeebia supported Weapons-tech incorp and you didn't does not give you the right to start saying all this stuff about him. I agree Weapons-tech was wrong about what he said, but God do you have to cream him for it. Oh and yes to all of those who dont believe that some schools dont have identical IP addresses mine does, and I live in North Carolina. Ok, and the moderators, I would have expected you to handle the situation better. Instead of helping him out by clamly explaining his mistakes, but I read nothing but hatred in your posts, I am ashamed to be governed by you.

..........Incompetent sounds just about right. You blam Hobbeebia for trying to defend himself from your accusations, and he's the bad guy.... I find of alot of stupidity in that statment. If you were being accused of something wouldn't you like someone to come to you defence, yes. I have been keeping up with this thread and the other one. Hey guys just because Hobbeebia supported Weapons-tech incorp and you didn't does not give you the right to start saying all this stuff about him. I agree Weapons-tech was wrong about what he said, but God do you have to cream him for it. Oh and yes to all of those who dont believe that some schools dont have identical IP addresses mine does, and I live in North Carolina. Ok, and the moderators, I would have expected you to handle the situation better. Instead of helping him out by clamly explaining his mistakes, but I read nothing but hatred in your posts, I am ashamed to be governed by you.

You call me incompetent when your message is made incoherent due to spelling mistakes and such. In fact, these seem consistent with the mistakes Hobeebia and WTI make...

As for school IP addresses, the story doesn't add up. I'm sure Weapons tech doesn't go to school all year round.

I'm willing to drop the topic, I already said this is all speculation based on observations several users have made. We can't prove anything until an IP test is administered. This has pretty much been nothing but a petty flamewar. And why be angry at the moderators?

Ok, my spelling errors are not my fault, I use my Word spell check and it says that it is fine so... One could conclude that maybe our spelling errors are not really spelling errors at all. Maybe what you believe to be spelling errors are not really spelling errors at all, and you are mistaken, or maybe your Word spell check is not up to date with all the latest words (the dictionary changes a lot.). The Moderators mad me mad by the way they handled the situation to begin with. They should act as professionals when it comes to this kind of stuff, and to be frank they did not act up to par when it comes to that kind of job.

The Moderators mad me mad by the way they handled the situation to begin with. They should act as professionals when it comes to this kind of stuff, and to be frank they did not act up to par when it comes to that kind of job.

You have the same IP address as Hobbeebia. Shock and awe, here.

Does your school have only one e-mail address for everyone as well?

Well then If I have the same IP address as Hobbeebia, why does he live in another state, and have my IP address. I got in touch through E-mail and he told me where he lived. He lives in Flordia. Now as moderators you should know that IP addresses are out of date. with an IP masker you can type any IP in and that will be your IP. I have one. I dont use it , but I got one. So I dont trust your IP test.

Does your school have only one e-mail address for everyone as well?

yes but I dont use it.

yes but I dont use it.
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One at Juno, no less? Not an .edu, which even Podunk Memorial High School in Podunk, Kentucky (from which I graduated) had? Not even a .k12.state.us ? Goodness. Poor you.

Well then If I have the same IP address as Hobbeebia, why does he live in another state, and have my IP address. I got in touch through E-mail and he told me where he lived. He lives in Flordia. Now as moderators you should know that IP addresses are out of date. with an IP masker you can type any IP in and that will be your IP. I have one. I dont use it , but I got one. So I dont trust your IP test.
Now you're just making crap up.

Well then If I have the same IP address as Hobbeebia, why does he live in another state, and have my IP address. I got in touch through E-mail and he told me where he lived. He lives in Flordia. Now as moderators you should know that IP addresses are out of date. with an IP masker you can type any IP in and that will be your IP. I have one. I dont use it , but I got one. So I dont trust your IP test.

So you don't use it, and happen to have the same IP anyway? That shot my allegation down...

Even though the points that Japanese dude have no support whatsoever, and I have no idea what an IP test is, I still say that WTI and Hobbeebia are not the same person. Besides, I can log in 2 nations at one time. And another thing, couldn't he use computers at school and at home? I know I do. All the stuff I said in this thread earlier was from my home computer, while this particular post is from a school computer. I have yet to see a valid arguement against these poor fellows you're razing.

Even though the points that Japanese dude have no support whatsoever, and I have no idea what an IP test is, I still say that WTI and Hobbeebia are not the same person. Besides, I can log in 2 nations at one time. And another thing, couldn't he use computers at school and at home? I know I do. All the stuff I said in this thread earlier was from my home computer, while this particular post is from a school computer. I have yet to see a valid arguement against these poor fellows you're razing.

You continuosly call the points that I make invalid. There's plenty of support, just look at the posts Hobeebia and WTI have made. It's just that you choose to ignore reason and logic.

He can use computers at school and home, but how can his school and home ip be the same? Unless he lives in the school, that's impossible.

I have read this entire thread. I have come to the conclusion that it is the most indecent display of stupidity and incompetence I have ever seen. Not just with the accusors, but the defendants and the moderators as well. You are all fighting a battle that cannot be won, and wouldn't make a difference if it were. What if they are the same person? What if Weapons-tech is a puppet? Does it really matter? You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

The Hiccup dude is right, we're never gonna solve anything like this. Once again I state that Japanese dude's evidence is purely circumstantial. And what is an IP. Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. I'm telling you all that I know WTI in person, in the flesh, go to school with him, and go to church with him. I see the guy everyday and I know he is not Hobbeebia! Why would I make something like this up?

The Hiccup dude is right, we're never gonna solve anything like this. Once again I state that Japanese dude's evidence is purely circumstantial. And what is an IP. Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. I'm telling you all that I know WTI in person, in the flesh, go to school with him, and go to church with him. I see the guy everyday and I know he is not Hobbeebia! Why would I make something like this up?

I already said that the evidence I gave is circumstantial. And an IP address is something that each computer that is connected to the Internet has. Each IP is unique, so no two different computers can have the same IP at the same time.

You may see Weapons-Tech in real life, but do you see Hobeebia in real life? How do you know they are two different people?

I said already, I want to drop the topic, but you continously offend me by calling me incompetent.

You continuosly call the points that I make invalid. There's plenty of support, just look at the posts Hobeebia and WTI have made. It's just that you choose to ignore reason and logic.

He can use computers at school and home, but how can his school and home ip be the same? Unless he lives in the school, that's impossible.

No, It really it is not all that impossible. What If he lives at military school. Most military schools make you live there. I know of a few , Oak Ridge in N.C., Drill High in Tampa in Florida. So it is quite possible that he could live in a military school. Or maybe a private school. Even some of those schools make you live there.

No, It really it is not all that impossible. What If he lives at military school. Most military schools make you live there. I know of a few , Oak Ridge in N.C., Drill High in Tampa in Florida. So it is quite possible that he could live in a military school. Or maybe a private school. Even some of those schools make you live there.

Too bad. The mods already confirmed it on page two.

Ok, I see ,but good God, the guy is trying to stop all the crazyness here.

Listen, the guy who runs Hobbeebia isn't me. I don't know what it will take to convince you people that we are not on in the same. And hey Megas, I don't appreciate you randomly coming in here and making accusations like you have a right to. Apparently that was your first and only post. And though you may think you have a valid point, I bet there's hundreds of people who don't take the time to properly proofread their posts. But since I've gotten so much flak about that, I might as well start proofreading my own. Anyway, ask my friend the Federation of Excalibor. I see him almost everday and he doesn't know who Hobbeebia is either.

You're a puppet and a puppetmaster. So hath sayeth the Mods, who would know, and have better tools for knowing. This makes your whole apology a load of absolute blather.

Your IP address is what your computer puts into "cyberspace" as a listing of who is doing what. Each is individualized, so without use of an IP masker (which allows you to put in anything), the same link shows the same IP each and every time.

Therefore, they're both one person - same IP. We could continue, but there's no need to do so.

Evidence:

Hobbeebia and Spammernite are registered under the same email address, have the same IP address and exactly the same posting style. Ditto for Raven Corps and Weapons-Tech Incorp.

Somewhat more revealingly Raven Corps and WTI are registered to an email address which contains the word 'Hobbeeb.' Cornoda is also connected it this whole ridiculous affair, strangely enough.

This is hardly circumstantial evidence, is it?

Evidence:

Hobbeebia and Spammernite are registered under the same email address, have the same IP address and exactly the same posting style. Ditto for Raven Corps and Weapons-Tech Incorp.

Somewhat more revealingly Raven Corps and WTI are registered to an email address which contains the word 'Hobbeeb.' Cornoda is also connected it this whole ridiculous affair, strangely enough.

This is hardly circumstantial evidence, is it?


I've never seen anyone hoisted by their own petard more convincingly.

And I'm going to love hearing this rebuttal. *wonders briefly if Elvis made them do it...*

Evidence:

Hobbeebia and Spammernite are registered under the same email address, have the same IP address and exactly the same posting style. Ditto for Raven Corps and Weapons-Tech Incorp.

Somewhat more revealingly Raven Corps and WTI are registered to an email address which contains the word 'Hobbeeb.' Cornoda is also connected it this whole ridiculous affair, strangely enough.

This is hardly circumstantial evidence, is it?

Impressive

Evidence:

Hobbeebia and Spammernite are registered under the same email address, have the same IP address and exactly the same posting style. Ditto for Raven Corps and Weapons-Tech Incorp.

Somewhat more revealingly Raven Corps and WTI are registered to an email address which contains the word 'Hobbeeb.' Cornoda is also connected it this whole ridiculous affair, strangely enough.

This is hardly circumstantial evidence, is it?

Thanks GMC military arms.

Hey Weapons Tech

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You got served, courtesy the Mod Team.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/GMCMA/Other%20stuff/Stupidity.jpg

GMC, this thread is the first time I've laughed so hard I fell out of my chair this week.

Thank you for that :)

Alright guys, you win. I was only trying to do a favor for my buddy and he's gonna be pissed off at me when he sees this. But what can I say when you guys pasted him like that.

Yes, all 4 of the accused are under the control of the same person, WTI, Hobbeebia, Spammernite, and Raven Corps. I don't know about Cordona, though.

Sorry for the trouble that I caused. You may gloat over your victory at your leisure.

Alright guys, you win. I was only trying to do a favor for my buddy and he's gonna be pissed off at me when he sees this. But what can I say when you guys pasted him like that.

Yes, all 4 of the accused are under the control of the same person, WTI, Hobbeebia, Spammernite, and Raven Corps. I don't know about Cordona, though.

Sorry for the trouble that I caused. You may gloat over your victory at your leisure.

GLOAT

More proof we have the omniscient mods here on NS.

I have a question: why does any of this matter? And come on Raven Tech was obviously WTI all along.

I have a question: why does any of this matter? And come on Raven Tech was obviously WTI all along.

That's what I said from the beginning, but nobody listens to noobs. :headbang:

I have a question: why does any of this matter? And come on Raven Tech was obviously WTI all along.

It didn't really matter, until he started calling me incompetent. I took it personally then.

Excalibor, you were right, we give you kudos.

As to why this is of any interest - he was lying in an apology after getting caught out by the moderators no less. Couldn't shut up, suck it up, and accept it. So instead, he tried to protect WTI by having Hobbebia buy out WTI stock, saying it "wasn't him" and other absurdities.

In short, this has been a most comical event demonstrating what happens when you try to lie to a moderator. You get stepped on.

Just for the record, Spammernite is now under the control of someone else, and is no longer a puppet. It was only created to annoy people in the first place but I think now its going to become a real nation.

For the record, I withdraw my 'respect' for the person who found it necessary to applaud himself. Bringing your puppets into an IC battle for support is bad enough, but this is just depressing.

Personally, I found the whole thread highly amusing. Thank you to all of the participants for making me laugh for a few minutes. I appreciate it.

For the record, I withdraw my 'respect' for the person who found it necessary to applaud himself. Bringing your puppets into an IC battle for support is bad enough, but this is just depressing.

I love that he bought his own puppet in a silly attempt to "protect" it from being bought by someone else. Talk about ridiculous!

And I still say he doesn't understand what a PUT option is, though I must put forth that with this "reveal", they paid off nicely... which would put WTI in dire straits for a year or so.

Though my expectations on his RPing such an event are miniscule at best.

Behold! 'Tis here demonstrated that one player can be logged on with two nations at once.

Behold! 'Tis here demonstrated that one player can be logged on with two nations at once.
So always keep in mind that simultaneous posting is not proof of different players.

But of course.

I do give genuflection to your demonstration and thank you for your time. :)

I would also note - it was an IP search and several other "mighty interesting coincidences" which showed the lie for what it was.

I can log in as two nations at once, there is a large chance of something going wrong, and one nation being logged out and replaced by the other but 80% of the time that doesnt happen. Provided you dont use the "file>new>window" trick its normally okay... but thats asking for trouble....

infact im doing it now...

Lookie im posting twice, arent I clever? *hits reply on both posts as quickly together as he can*