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Doomingsland Imperial Navy to recieve overhual

Doomingsland
13-09-2004, 22:15
Doomingsland Broadcasting Corporation

In the Defence Department's latest announcement, they let it known that the Imperial Navy is to be expanded due to its lackluster size. The recent war in Psov once again proved the worth of a strong navy, therefore, the Defence Department has announced the construction of over 30 ships. In other news, a man dressed as a leprochuan was arrested for...

OOC:Well, since my navy is downright puny at the moment, and IDF and TIOR blew up a good chunk of my current one, I've decided to expand. Here's what I'm building(note, I'm deliberately saying smaller amounts of ships I'm building to confuse spies, but you crazy liberals out there can feel free to see the stuff being constructed with satleties, and 'be disturbed at this act of evil') -

12 Arleigh Burke Class Ageis Cruisers
16 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
22 Spruance Class Destroyers
26 Oliver Hazzard Perry Class Frigates
10 Seawolf Class Attack Subs
5 Ohio Class SSBNs
4 Yorktown Class Aircraft Carriers
10 Logistics Vessles

OOC:If anyone has any problems with these numbers, feel free to correct me.
Japanese Antarctica
13-09-2004, 22:26
ooc: elaborate on logistical vessels
Doomingsland
13-09-2004, 22:26
ooc: elaborate on logistical vessels
OOC:You know, big ships that hual fuel, food, and ammunition.
Japanese Antarctica
14-09-2004, 02:29
ooc: duh. i mean, tell exactly the names of the ship ex. Ticonderoga, Yorktown, Arleigh Burke, etc.
IDF
14-09-2004, 02:30
I think more logisitical ships wouldn't hurt. The numbers are realistic and actually quite small, you can afford more.
Wirraway
14-09-2004, 02:33
I think more logisitical ships wouldn't hurt. The numbers are realistic and actually quite small, you can afford more.

I agree but have something else to add: since most of the ships you are ordering are oil fired you need to include some tankers in your orders as they are specialized ships and not simply logistics vessels.
Japanese Antarctica
14-09-2004, 02:37
I think more logisitical ships wouldn't hurt. The numbers are realistic and actually quite small, you can afford more.

OOC: What? no direct reference to your storefront? :)
British Dominion
14-09-2004, 02:44
I'd place more logistics ships there too. I think the usual ratio is about 3 or 4 combat ships for 1 AOR/AO. Of course the more support vessels you have, the better you can support ops further afield. Incidentally, it's good to specify types - for instance, to name Russian types, you could have Berezina, Boris Chilikin, or Ugra-class ships, each of which fulfil quite a specific role.
The Island of Rose
14-09-2004, 02:51
((OOC: I blew up a chunk of your navy? Cool :D. Seriously, how many fleets should a nation have? I have 25 Ships in one Fleet. 30 Fleets total. This is little correct? This means I sent 1/3 of my Navy to help Psov :mp5: ))
Teh ninjas
14-09-2004, 02:54
I have 22 or 21 for my RL type vessel fleets. My other ones are between 70, and 120 vessels. Those are my capital fleets.
The Island of Rose
14-09-2004, 02:57
Are you telling me I can have 100 legitimate Naval Fleets? Though my Air Force is big, why look at my factbook!

Yes I know you already did <_<
Wirraway
14-09-2004, 03:07
It might be unrealisic to have 100 fleets, just think of the logistcis involved, do you even have enough ports for them to anchor at? Your earlier statement of forces was much more realistic.
The Island of Rose
14-09-2004, 03:12
It might be unrealisic to have 100 fleets, just think of the logistcis involved, do you even have enough ports for them to anchor at? Your earlier statement of forces was much more realistic.

So why have I seen people pulling out OMG FLEETS OF DOOM that number over 50?

And I only have three large ports and many small ports, around 20...

I even saw a newbie take out 200 Carriers and 1,000 Destroyers and Subs, for a battle.

That was numberwanking in my opinion....

So 30 Fleets then?
Wirraway
14-09-2004, 03:18
So why have I seen people pulling out OMG FLEETS OF DOOM that number over 50?

And I only have three large ports and many small ports, around 20...

I even saw a newbie take out 200 Carriers and 1,000 Destroyers and Subs, for a battle.

That was numberwanking in my opinion....

So 30 Fleets then?

Yes, thats about the number I have, my Navy is patterned on the US navy, so my carrier battle groups have a max of 3 Carriers(Normally only one) and theri associated escorts, usually there are 2-3 Aegeis cruisers and assorted escorts and logistics ships per carrier. Normally the number runs between 15 and 20 ships in a fleet for me, not counting subs, usually there are 2. So I have a total of 200 ships that I can put to sea at one time.

I agree, there is way to much numberwanking going on in the naval side of warfare these days.
The Island of Rose
14-09-2004, 03:25
I agree, there is way to much numberwanking going on in the naval side of warfare these days.

((OOC:I have a Jack of all Trades system. They are flexible and are good in any situations. This is what I have in each fleet by the way if you're interested:))

1 Nimitz Class Carriers (Carries 85 Aircraft)
5 United States Class Carriers (Carries 50 Aircraft)
2 Iowa Class Battleships
3 Los Angeles Class Submarines
2 Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyers
2 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ships
1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
2 Safeguard Class Rescue and Salvage Ships
1 Mercy Class Hospital Ships
7 Chicago Class Escort Ships

((OOC:As you can see, I believe that the Carrier is superior in Naval Warfare. I think the arrangement is good, it helped me in defending Psov :P. Anyway, no more OOC clutter. I'd appreciate it if we continued this through TG.))

Official Statement from the Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

Eh, another Armed Forces upgrade. As long as an ally isn't attacked we have no problem. But here's what you wanted to hear anyway. You are evil men that sodomize small childrens in the woods while listening to Yanni. Okay good day.
-Vice President Orcha Yultanov of The Island of Rose
Wirraway
14-09-2004, 03:29
((OOC:I have a Jack of all Trades system. They are flexible and are good in any situations. This is what I have in each fleet by the way if you're interested:))

1 Nimitz Class Carriers (Carries 85 Aircraft)
5 United States Class Carriers (Carries 50 Aircraft)
2 Iowa Class Battleships
3 Los Angeles Class Submarines
2 Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyers
2 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ships
1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship
2 Safeguard Class Rescue and Salvage Ships
1 Mercy Class Hospital Ships
7 Chicago Class Escort Ships

((OOC:As you can see, I believe that the Carrier is superior in Naval Warfare. I think the arrangement is good, it helped me in defending Psov :P. Anyway, no more OOC clutter. I'd appreciate it if we continued this through TG.))

Official Statement from the Proletariat Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

Eh, another Armed Forces upgrade. As long as an ally isn't attacked we have no problem. But here's what you wanted to hear anyway. You are evil men that sodomize small childrens in the woods while listening to Yanni. Okay good day.
-Vice President Orcha Yultanov of The Island of Rose

OOC: I will tg you , BTW most battle fleets which are not assaulting land do not have Hospital or Rescue/Salvage vessels with them they just slow down the fleet and are a headache to defend as they are very easy targets. Most ships have hosiptals inside them so there is no need for a dedicated ship to serve that purpose.
Doomingsland
14-09-2004, 21:30
OOC:I've already got a good surplus of tankers and logistics vessles, these new ones are just being constructed to compensate more. Wow, I leave the thread for a few hours, think it dies, and it grows to two pages...