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OOC: Who Has the Most Influencial Asian Nation?

Sino
12-09-2004, 06:37
After more than a year of RP, let's have a vote and discussion on this topic. So who's it likely to be in the galaxy of nations known as NS?
Sino
12-09-2004, 06:44
My sincere apologies for leaving any big names out!
Iansisle
12-09-2004, 06:47
Has to be Dra-pol. He's the only one* whose work I've actually gone out of my way to read.

*(well, besides EI once or twice. And Agrigento of course, assuming that's what you meant by 'Aggrigento.')
Chuang-Han China
12-09-2004, 07:10
I'm going to have to say Sino for three reasons:

a) Militarism leads to such fun, especially Chinese Militarism!

b) I'm starting to interact with Sino and Xiaguo because you drug me onto the forum to RP by posting your RP threads for me to read all the time!

c) I'm afraid if I say someone else you'll invade me (harken back to reason A) ;)
Dra-pol
12-09-2004, 07:21
OOC: Heh, Imma have to back the vote for me, thus far, but mainly because everyone insists upon playing straight into my hands and making life improbably easy for Hotan.
Once the reunification is over I think I'm almost bound to lose my way and see Dra-pol sink back in to obscurity.
It'll be back to the other account then though, eh :)

All right, seriously, I'm trying to think with relation to any account I've ever played. Which Asian nation has influenced decisions any of my nations have ever made.

Hm. Marimaia and LRR have some measure of Dra-pol's respect, I suppose. I honestly don't think that any one Asian nation has ever been savvy enough to influence any IC decisions I've made with any account. Sino could be, but is generally regarded as over-confident. LRR has the respect but is recogised as a... back bencher. I suppose it partly depends how far we extend the Asian blanket, because without the Indian Ocean support of Beth Gellert, Dra-pol would not have its early warning radar grid that has allowed the CPRD to take on all the rest of Asia... and North Pacific Iansisle has seriously influenced WoS in its various adventures.

(Am I wrong as seeing LRR as Asian? I imagine the nation to be largely white, but as it is based in eastern Russia, I think, it seems applicable to Asian proceedings. What? Yeah, I'm drunk.)
Sino
12-09-2004, 08:33
I don't RP an over-confident, fat man nation. The way I RP Sino is because modern China doesn't have any balls and it gets pushed around too much.

Despite my higher post count, I've come to accept that _Taiwan is still more noticed. He's got good RPs and storefronts so the folks on NS respect him for that, while Sino's famous for whoopin' commies and homosexuals. Perhaps if there's a vote for Asia's most conservative nation, it would be mine.

Although Bonstock and Daylam have a sphere of influence in the area, their n00bishness render their value to be more nuisance than strategic. As much as I like to say that Sino whoops ass, it doesn't. There's the recognition factor of the Chinese capital being Beijing (due to the recent treaty), some Zhuangs to appease and a strong Japan (Tokarev/Turkmeny) just over the horizon. Although Taiwanese separatism is now out off the media spotlight, the new spotlight is focussing on the future of the Sinoese state, as it sets to achieve its most important nationalistic aim.

Sadly enough, Dra-pol's role as North Korea has set the possibilities of the worst American, Japanese, South Korean and Chinese fears. Stirring up much of the troubles in Korea again. If there's an award for the biggest sh*t stirrer in Asia, it'd go to Dra-pol, beating all other competitors by a country mile.
Sino
12-09-2004, 08:46
Bump
Tadjikistan
12-09-2004, 08:57
I know only 3 nations in that list, one doesnt RP with me and the two others are unknown to me. Russian Forces is the only one i've actually interacted with so i think he's most influencial to.
Dra-pol
12-09-2004, 09:00
Hehe. I think that I'm proud of that.

You're just bitter because no one has prepared a proportional response to an NS version of the DPRK becoming reality.

I'm half contemplating a more realistic version of Asia, after this is over... with reasonable populations and all. Dra-pol would have fifty or sixty million people, China would split one and a quarter billion what, three? four? five ways? I don't know if anyone else is interested, but I'm sure as hell not doing it unless everyone else does.
Dra-pol
12-09-2004, 09:01
Pfft [now watch me be witty, here] Russian Farces? Who's that?
Sino
12-09-2004, 09:16
Russian Forces is one of the most obnoxious and annoying RP'ers ever!
Chellis
12-09-2004, 09:52
Chellis

We were descended from north koreans... Even if we arent worried asia for now ;)
_Taiwan
12-09-2004, 10:11
I would have to say Bonstock, due to the massive international attention he gets from causing controversy such as the recent 'Port Yuko Alliance' and the stand-off over the diplomatic incident between Taipei and Bonstock.
Tadjikistan
12-09-2004, 10:18
Russian Forces is one of the most obnoxious and annoying RP'ers ever!

I must admit, he doesnt really RP, but he's the only Asian based guy i've ever interacted with and i had no problems with him. The only other Asian based people are guys like Dark Terror, Eye Ran, Coldorra and some others but A) they dont RP at all(Dark terror) B) They arent influencial at all(Eye Ran) or C) they dont exist anymore(Coldorra) so i'm kinda limited in my choices. If i cant choose RF then i must say Tadjikistan.
Iuthia
12-09-2004, 11:29
I don't RP

*cough*

I'd say _Tiawan, he actually seems to have a clue about diplomacy and doesn't constantly fill almost every thread he's in with pictures of the latest chinese vehicle.
Bonstock
12-09-2004, 13:58
ooc: Hmm... well, I'll admit I've been more of a "get in the way" type, though bear in mind I've onl had imperialistic ambitions quelled by the alliances of many Azn states. If Red Tide and I had been fighting just Isladia, or just Hudecia, or anyother, we'd probably have won and taken Japan for ourselves. Yet, since we were opposed by EI, Hudecia, Agrigento, Xiagou, Spyr, and pretty much everyone else in the old Azn Resistance, we were defeated.

Now I'm seeing much less of an Azn sphere going on. Hudecia and EI just held elections making them less hardline to the likes of myself. Xiagou, Sino, and _Taiwan are in something of a power stuggle for China. The legions of others aren't that active any more, or are more concerned with incidents in Korea. The Azn Resistance doesn't seem to be what it used to be. Which may or may not be good for me.

Though I'd really like to see Sino back up his accusation that I'm a "n00b."

Anyway, ususally no single nation here has come to be the most powerful. It was the combanation of them that prevented me from taking over Japan, though I still hold places in Taiwan and the Sakishima Islands.

Though, in retrospect, the war in Japan didn't have to happen. I was going to make it a long, drawn out diplomatic affair, possibly a cold-war style RP, with me holding central Honshu and the Azn Resistance holding everything else. Red Tide, through an idiocy that I have yet to understand, anthraxed the Azn Resistance confrence and thereby invited war. Then again, I probably could have milked the New Year Ceasefire out, and simply not gone to war. That would have preserved a slight peace, and I would have held onto Central Honshu indefinatly.

The great plan of course was to resettle my population there but gradualy get them assimilated into the conquered territories. Eventually, most of my population would pretty much be Japanese. What end that would achieve me I have yet to figure out, though perhaps I've always wanted an RL location for my nation. The whole point of holding on to Maropian Coast is to give me an RL location to operate out of.

For those who don't have a clue what I'm talking about:

Back in late '03 Japann, a puppet of _Taiwan started becoming more imperialist, and began an expansion. A broad coalition of nations, my own included, opposed this, and vowed to bring down Japann's government. Sino attacked first, invading southern Honshu, and quickly Azn forces took the Hokkaido and Kyushu. Bonstock, interupted by civil war, was unable to participate, but soon realized Japann had nuclear weapons, and used this as a pretext to invade central Honshu along with Red Tide. After a long, drawn out battle, the Imperial Palace fell to Bonstocknian and Red Tide forces, along with most of central Honshu. We, unlike other members of the coalition, had an agenda... we wanted Japan for ourselves. The Azn Resistance held a confrence to decide what to do about the situation. After Red Tide athraxed the confrence, war broke out. A ceasefire went into effect for the Lunar New Year, upon which Bonstock quickly attacked on a broad front, including _Taiwan. The offensive was beaten back, and soon another ceasefire went into effect, which Bonstock used to withdraw from Japan. An offensive into Maropian Coast, Bonstocknian territory in Eastern Taiwan, was beaten back, after which a peace was declared.
Xiaguo
12-09-2004, 17:34
Like always, I voted mysef. Heil!
Bedou
12-09-2004, 17:45
I voted for EI(over time i just have to give it to him)
However Sino, though not as "popular" a some others has good solid RPs as what I could invision a possible Chinese super power.
So I put Sino second
Tiawan_ third.
Xiaguo
12-09-2004, 18:09
Xiaguo - Is the original governments of the 5 Provicial Regions, Nei Mongolia, Jilin, Liaoning, Heilongjiang, and Hebei. The Contitutional Republic of China was established on August, and made official as of September 7th. The new capital was moved to Bejing as the Official Imperial Capital of North China. Xiaguo began its tariffs on trade early last month generting revenues for CHina. Xiaguo begins to normalize relations with Dra-Pol and Bonstock. The current Prime Minister, yeh Zhao Feng has been the prominent Prime minister for Xiaguo. The National debts were paid off and revenues rose.

Sino - Is the original Government of all South Chinese Sea Territory and have expanded Through Guangdong, Fujian, and Zhejiang, and Jiangsu. An unofficial Capital was announced by the Shanghai City Government, but was not made official by Sino, nor does most government operating structures located there. Sino now runs as a New Nationalist Millitary State. It now sells the best technology and equiptment fo CHina and works to establish strong firm millitary control of Asia. General Liu Tong ZHong now rules Sino under the love of a Unified CHina and works hard to promote CHinese controll throughout Asia.

Taiwan - After the Elections having the people's elected President, Zhang Fu Guo, a highly respected politician by many, announced his efforts to establish closer relations with the mainland countries. Taiwan signed an Alliance act with Sino. A Tri Treaty, Sino-Taiwan-Xiaguo Alliance was formed. Taiwan, however, still faces the issue of the Maropian Coast(Hualien) which is stil under Bonstockian rule. Taiwan however, now lives in peace and enjoys its peace time now which aiwan is developing quickly under Zhang.

Chuang-Han - During the decision by the Chuang-Han government to reopen ties with the Chinese. CHuang-Han however has refused to sign the Quad Alliance, or the CHinese Allegiance. Their argument was the lack of autonomity given by neighboring nations. The Nation, still headed by the Thai minority will undergo changes and resentment by the Han Chinese, still residing in Chuang-Han. Chuang-Han however has been ravaged by minorities seeking power. Xiaguo and Sino have already expressed their suggestion to unify under CHinese rule.
Tyrandis
12-09-2004, 18:25
Dra-pol. Just because some of his posts on my topics made me laugh :D
Turkmeny
12-09-2004, 19:06
I have to go with Dra-Pol. Though I am trying to get more influential, but computer problems and impatience in RPs (I always end up accelerating the timeline), are obstacles to overcome.
Bedou
12-09-2004, 20:32
I am in central Asia, and I have no desire to be influential.
Hudecia
13-09-2004, 01:50
Hmm... I'm honoured just to have made the short list.

Sino seems like he could be very influential but in my experience with him it seems that Xiaguo is the one with the true power over him.

Xiaguo seems to be an O.K. RPer but he's not often online to do much.

Drapol is a good RPer, but the narrow focus (just Korea) of his RPs kinda negates his being very powerful in Asia.

East Islandia seems to have the right balance of being online, good RPs, creativity, and at the same time making everything fun for everyone else and not just being concerned with their own happiness.

Hats off to EI and Agrigento~
Sino
13-09-2004, 06:02
Sometimes I wonder, if Sino is Nazi Germany with no Nazism and _Taiwan is America without democracy.

And yes, the Bonsies are n00bs with weapons that don't work and no consideration for the prowess of true power in the area. All they can do is drool over the map of Asia.
Sino
13-09-2004, 07:05
If Dra-pol has power then it should not be RP'ing widespread famine. Like the RL NK speanding on nothing but the military, you can just pick open the door and whole rotten structure comes down.

Xiaguo's got the Chinese upperhand now, officially the capital is Beijing.
Sino
13-09-2004, 07:13
BUMP

OOC: We need more votes and opinions.
Sino
13-09-2004, 07:30
*cough*

I'd say _Tiawan, he actually seems to have a clue about diplomacy and doesn't constantly fill almost every thread he's in with pictures of the latest chinese vehicle.

Throughout the ages, warfare is the continuation of diplomacy by other means. I don't see anything wrong with pictures (I never post too much to slow down the connection), it creates realism in the RP.
Beth Gellert
13-09-2004, 07:31
It should be RPing famine if there's famine. That doesn't have to directly alter the influence the nation weilds on the international stage (though it may alter the balance of power).
Anyway, I believe that the extent of the food shortage was exaggerated by Da'Khiem as part of the pre-invasion deception.
And as for pure military power apart from influence, BG is a fully modern nation of three billion persons, and has an economy fifteen times larger than that of the US, but famine or no, few Beddgelen generals believe their armies could defeat the Drapoel.
Andaman and Nicobar (capitalist state in the Bay of Bengal) has been and continues to be a major infleunce so far as Beth Gellert is concerned, even if their efforts have been uniformly thwarted by GSIC and other agencies. ISAN, as it is know, is perhaps not active enough in RP to factor widely, but as one of the richest nations on earth it certainly has the potential. BG has been disproportionately influenced by them due to OOC and RL familiarity. Just our luck :)
Sino
13-09-2004, 10:56
BUMP

This is worth the voting. Looks like Sino's only leading by one vote.
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-09-2004, 01:18
Of course I am the most influential Asian nation, with my hordes of missile boats and CAC vessels!

I mean seriously, I'm in a good position because you can't invade me between, like, late september and late may, since the bloody Sea Of Okhotsk is iced over!

Incidentally, that's why I rely primarily on shore-based missile launchers for coastal defense, with a smattering of CAC ships which handle good on the ice.

But anyhow, yes I usually RP as me occupying coastal eastern siberia. That would actually mean I border Dra-pol in the south...but I don't really have the Vladivostok area. Sakhalin is more of my Vladivostok. You know? Places like Yuzhno and Sakhalinsk that are out of the ice, and Kamchatski too. I view myself in possession of at least the northern half of the Kuril islands as well.

I guess I border Xiaguo mostly.

But Dra-pol is by far the most influential Asian nation. Once he builds himself a better navy, watch out!
Neo-Tiburon
14-09-2004, 02:45
Probably _Taiwan and Perfect China together. P.C.'s gone, but the RPs between us three were truly memorable.
Sino
14-09-2004, 04:20
P.C. was a lousy RP'er with uninteresting threads. I guess that's my perspective since I like action. What about the RPs of Sino, were they not memorable?
Nianacio
14-09-2004, 04:33
Hmmm...I'm not really familiar with the Asia clique*, and I don't RP much...But when I do, I can be rather influential.

*I tried to get involved when it began, but people yelled at me for being off the computer for the first few pages of what I think was the original thread. I've been forced to stay out since then because we can't both exist in the same territory.
Iansisle
14-09-2004, 04:34
Russian Forces is one of the most obnoxious and annoying RP'ers ever!

((Y'know, I'd always sort of thought of you as a Russian Forces protégé, what with the large volume of pictures, heavy militarism, complete lack of wit, and all. But then I figured that if the pot really wanted to call the kettle black, then that was his prerogative and shuffled off to my own corner of the multiverse.))
Sino
14-09-2004, 06:07
It would be offensive to compare Sino to RF. I've got wit and humor in my posts.
Sino
14-09-2004, 06:12
OOC: Some of you are voting _Taiwan deliberately because you're all pissed off with the Sino-Taiwan Alliance and an end to Taiwanese separatism RPs.
Chuang-Han China
14-09-2004, 07:04
OOC: Some of you are voting _Taiwan deliberately because you're all pissed off with the Sino-Taiwan Alliance and an end to Taiwanese separatism RPs.


I'm still cautiously seperatists ;)
Sino
14-09-2004, 07:36
I'm still cautiously seperatists ;)

Ein Volk! Ein Reich!
Zecro
14-09-2004, 07:55
You know, Sino, Bonstock is pretty influential, as far as being able to stir up trouble in the region. I mean, mainland Aisia watches Bonstock's every move.

However, no single country holds the greatest "power handle," it's more of an Alliance, Sino, Xiaguo and Taiwan come to mind, but I havn't been active in the last year, so I can only draw infrences. However, since you three have mainland China pretty well covered, I'd say that's the dominant force in the region.

You'd better watch out though, elections in Maropian Coast could bring about a power shift that would esentially make everyone focus on MC, with MC trying to gain independence from Bonstock (who will be trying to retake it, I'm sure), and trying to make Asian allies, to possibly mount a strike on Bonstock. Or perhaps he could do something underhanded that I have yet to figure out. Watch that thread carfully.
Iansisle
15-09-2004, 08:28
It would be offensive to compare Sino to RF. I've got wit and humor in my posts.

((I am rather tempted to point out the difference between claiming to have wit and humor in your posts and actually having wit and humor in your posts, but...nah. You wouldn't listen anyhow, so why ought I to bother?

Glad to see Dra-pol's starting to get the recognization he deserves.))
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-09-2004, 01:09
Hey, have you guys seen the RP revolution yet?

Promising, no?

As for Sino, it really depends. If you have a crude, vulgar sense of humor then what he says is for you.

If you tend to have a preference for more subtle, unobtrusive humor, then I think Dra-pol is for you.

I tend to throw something in once and a while too.

"All the boats were ready to attack, except for Lieutenant Hess, who sank in the channel."

The archival photo (http://warships.ru/Russia/Fighting_Ships/SKR/pr.1135_(03).jpg)

A Krivak MOD off the coast of Korea, mostl likely involved in attacking Dra-pol ships with its motley assortment of weaponry.
Sino
16-09-2004, 01:13
((I am rather tempted to point out the difference between claiming to have wit and humor in your posts and actually having wit and humor in your posts, but...nah. You wouldn't listen anyhow, so why ought I to bother?))

I'm willing to listen.
Neo-Tiburon
16-09-2004, 01:29
P.C. was a lousy RP'er with uninteresting threads. I guess that's my perspective since I like action. What about the RPs of Sino, were they not memorable?

Heh. 'Course they were. I RPed w/ you for the action, and w/ PC for the inaction. Whatever I felt like doing. But I only got one vote and you were winning. ^_^
Dra-pol
16-09-2004, 10:40
(Aw, you guys... group hug!)


Ahem. I mean...
[executes some POWs]
Sino
16-09-2004, 11:16
(Aw, you guys... group hug!)

POOF!
Sino
16-09-2004, 11:18
Yep, looks like only a two-horse race now, between Sino and its pal _Taiwan.
Sino
17-09-2004, 06:06
By all means, the Sinoese now have the most advanced C4I system in Asia:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357907&page=1&pp=15
Imitora
18-09-2004, 03:29
*cough*

I'd say _Tiawan, he actually seems to have a clue about diplomacy and doesn't constantly fill almost every thread he's in with pictures of the latest chinese vehicle.

Word.
Sino
18-09-2004, 03:50
Word.

OOC: What the hell is that suppose to mean. I'm sick of this Newspeak!
Imitora
18-09-2004, 04:23
It means that every f*cking post you make is about your shiny new toy. Its anoying that every thread you post in, their is at least ten f*cking posts about your newest military bdu or some sh*t.
Sino
18-09-2004, 04:36
It means that every f*cking post you make is about your shiny new toy. Its anoying that every thread you post in, their is at least ten f*cking posts about your newest military bdu or some sh*t.

F*ckin' Hell Yeah!
Xiaguo
18-09-2004, 05:24
The United Pacific Nations Alliance, A Re-Creation of the Asian ALliance, but will be more organised and Strong, for those who wish to join, but who really don't wish to be controlled totally by the UPNA, you may join as an honorary member.
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7051301#post7051301
Japannese Islands
18-09-2004, 15:51
OOC: What the hell is that suppose to mean. I'm sick of this Newspeak!

Been reading 1984 again, Sino?
East Islandia
18-09-2004, 16:30
If Red Tide and I had been fighting just Isladia, or just Hudecia, or anyother, we'd probably have won and taken Japan for ourselves. Yet, since we were opposed by EI, Hudecia, Agrigento, Xiagou, Spyr, and pretty much everyone else in the old Azn Resistance, we were defeated.
.


At least i didnt cheat and have my leader die and go to valhalla and come bak. Admittedly, you are a shrewd and dangerous nation, dangerous enough to be warranted a threat by the entire region of Asia, but....

...you have the tactical sense of a horseshoe. Namely, that is, breaking a truce, and not waiting for other ppl to respond as you overrun their positions is not what experienced RPers do. Your military is the laughingstock of my region (Tropical Paradise).
Lunatic Retard Robots
18-09-2004, 17:46
Man-for-man, my military is sort of a laughingstock.

During the war for unification, you saw Kilean and Hudecian troops armed with new american guns, new BDUs, new tanks, advanced gear and the like, and LRR troops armed with FN-FAL clones and Ak-47s, supported by towed rocket artillery, and dressed not even in full camoflauge.

Of course, I really beat up Hudecia in the wargames on my terrain, thanks to my long-range ATGMs, which can hit pretty much anything before it can strike back. LRR is definately not tank country...

But yeah, C4I has never been too much of a concern for the LRRMFs, which do not like very centralized anything. There are, of course, radios and couriers, drum signals, all those things.

Perhaps the only advantage had by the LRRMFs is their dispersal. That and the fact that every soldier is pretty well trained in the art of vehicle repair, engineering, and other technical skills. Sort of necessary, with the bulk of the army, airforce, and navy riding on a wide range of tracked and wheeled carriers. The LRRA operates an 8x8 Tatra in a boat hull, known as the TGB-20AL, actually nothing like a TGB-20A but still with a similar designation. There's also plenty of Bv-206s, and some vehicles which look like the Bren carrier of olde, based on the Wiesel.
East Islandia
18-09-2004, 18:04
Man-for-man, my military is sort of a laughingstock.

During the war for unification, you saw Kilean and Hudecian troops armed with new american guns, new BDUs, new tanks, advanced gear and the like, and LRR troops armed with FN-FAL clones and Ak-47s, supported by towed rocket artillery, and dressed not even in full camoflauge.

.


i'll sell u camo and whatever else u need....
Lunatic Retard Robots
19-09-2004, 01:37
i'll sell u camo and whatever else u need....

But the LRRA would have no personality...

And I don't think I would have quite enough money to equip my army with new personal gear. I mean, the old stuff suits just fine.
Japannese Islands
19-09-2004, 03:18
The Japannese Military is classified by small numbers of well-equipped and well-trained troops who sit back and let the navy fight the war instead.
Sino
20-09-2004, 02:07
Been reading 1984 again, Sino?

Yes, and that is a word, 'Newspeak' (colloq) for any new and made up words that mean nothing but FUBAR!
Sino
20-09-2004, 02:10
But the LRRA would have no personality...

And I don't think I would have quite enough money to equip my army with new personal gear. I mean, the old stuff suits just fine.

OOC: Somebody thinks like the PLA, let's raise large divisions of men and feed them into the meat grinders of war!

Not much can be said about the Sinoese besides the manpower of China and the technology/capabilities of the Americans and Europeans.

With not only a fully digitzed military, the Sinoese military must the most efficient in C5ISRAI:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357907

(Feel free to comment.)
Bonstock
20-09-2004, 02:21
At least i didnt cheat and have my leader die and go to valhalla and come bak.

I was just being creative...

Admittedly, you are a shrewd and dangerous nation, dangerous enough to be warranted a threat by the entire region of Asia, but....

Why thank you!

...you have the tactical sense of a horseshoe. Namely, that is, breaking a truce, and not waiting for other ppl to respond as you overrun their positions is not what experienced RPers do.

First of all, we're talking about nine months ago. I'm sorry if I did some wrong, I didn't wait for individuals to respond, because one of their allies would respond quickly. There were so many of you. And yes, I did break a truce. Live with it. The Viet Cong did it. The Palestinians and Israelis do it (quite often). It's called being creative.

Though in retrospect, I probably would have gotten more by keeping the truce. If I'd kept the truce, we probably would not have resumed hostilities. And if we did, my troops would be firmly entrenched. I'd still be in Tokyo, no doubt. I was taking a gamble. All or nothing. And I got nothing, and a reputation as a shrewd pariah. Live with it. You got more in the end.

Your military is the laughingstock of my region (Tropical Paradise).

Oh really? What's wrong about it? And what's so good about yours?
Sino
20-09-2004, 02:39
At least i didnt cheat and have my leader die and go to valhalla and come bak.

OOC: Or appoint some Simpsons character as an interim leader. Like father, like son. When the war comes, we'll just get some of _Taiwan's defense analysts to judge your tactics and technology. The godmoders can't win.
East Islandia
21-09-2004, 00:46
Live with it.
Oh really? What's wrong about it? And what's so good about yours?


I wouldnt have brought it up if you dont keep up your arrogance and say 'o, if it was jus hudecia or agrigento or EI i woulda kicked them bak to where they came from.' Call it sore ego, call it indignation, call it whatever... but you said the same thing months ago...and you're still saying the same thing.

Apparently, some lessons were not learned, but not my fault, and not to my detriment either.

I have, however, learned a lesson: the Bonstock is a shrewd and dangerous enemy, like I said. And, therefore, to not let the nation out of my bombsights or crosshairs or whatever targeting reticle i happen to be using.

If I were to conduct a tactical analysis of your military, Bonstock, I would find that you are lacking in officer skill; granted, your troops are good, as mine discovered to their detriment in Japan and Maropian Coast, but your officers need training, and I certainly hope that they learned some lessons from the last war, withall the guerilla warfare and such.

I have to applaud you for your patience, as it seems you have almost unlimited amounts when it comes to my cursing and ranting; now, if your officers had the patience to learn what they did wrong in the war....

and perhaps the balance of power will change. That would make for an interesting RP. Now go out there, learn, innovate, and come back.

We'll be waiting for you.
East Islandia
21-09-2004, 00:47
o shit, i juss noticed Bonstock wasnt on the poll... Why isnt he on the poll, Sino? He could win for being 'mad dangerous and shyt like that.'

haha... cmon, put him on or something.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-09-2004, 01:38
OOC: Somebody thinks like the PLA, let's raise large divisions of men and feed them into the meat grinders of war!

Not much can be said about the Sinoese besides the manpower of China and the technology/capabilities of the Americans and Europeans.

With not only a fully digitzed military, the Sinoese military must the most efficient in C5ISRAI:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357907

(Feel free to comment.)

Well, that's not really the case. My population, in the east-asian RP circle, is too small to just waste people in human wave attacks. What I buy is long-range ATGMs and excellent APCs, etc.

The APC-7 (which is sort of like an MT-LB, with very very heavy T-SEP influences) is probably one of the best armored personnel carriers out there, although I'd be the first to admit my tanks are a bit lacking...

But its not as though one could wage an effective tank war in the terrain I'm dealing with, added to that plentiful ATGMs, light rocket artillery, long-range artillery, ground-attack aircraft, prepared positions, and a well-trained defensive force with knowledge of the terrain.

And you can't forget the hordes of BV-206s and trucks that I use.
Sino
21-09-2004, 04:17
o shit, i juss noticed Bonstock wasnt on the poll... Why isnt he on the poll, Sino? He could win for being 'mad dangerous and shyt like that.'

haha... cmon, put him on or something.

Having a slice of Asia the size of Hong Kong isn't influencial enough. Daylam launched a large scale operation against the Chinese, throwing us in disarray while Bonstock is like a lazy tenant not paying the rent and awaiting a forceful eviction.
Solid Water
21-09-2004, 04:29
Having a slice of Asia the size of Hong Kong isn't influencial enough. Daylam launched a large scale operation against the Chinese, throwing us in disarray while Bonstock is like a lazy tenant not paying the rent and awaiting a forceful eviction.

More like a tenant that will blow you to pieces if you try to evict him. You know, personally, I'd be wary of Bonstock, but I won't say why.
Sino
21-09-2004, 04:31
More like a tenant that will blow you to pieces if you try to evict him. You know, personally, I'd be wary of Bonstock, but I won't say why.

In the Sinoese dictionary, 'Bonstock' is a synonym for 'bullsh*t'!
Solid Water
21-09-2004, 04:37
In the Sinoese dictionary, 'Bonstock' is a synonym for 'bullsh*t'!

OOC: Aren't you a little hothead? I'd listen to EI's advice. You're underestimating the enemy. Don't. Nothing good ever came of not being prepared. Or maybe you'll have to learn your lesson like Bonstock, from taking heavy losses (or losing, just in general). But in this case, you might not live to regret it.
Sino
21-09-2004, 06:33
OOC: Aren't you a little hothead? I'd listen to EI's advice. You're underestimating the enemy. Don't. Nothing good ever came of not being prepared. Or maybe you'll have to learn your lesson like Bonstock, from taking heavy losses (or losing, just in general). But in this case, you might not live to regret it.


_Taiwan and I have all the trump cards in the deck, but we still believe that vigilance is the price of nationhood. Bonstock will regret occupying China.
North Yaman
29-09-2004, 18:00
Hmm...you did forget Spyr...
Sino
30-09-2004, 00:41
Hmm...you did forget Spyr...

Sorry.
East Islandia
01-05-2005, 01:08
SINOOOOOOOOOOO
do this thread again! much has changed!
Sino
01-05-2005, 04:32
SINOOOOOOOOOOO
do this thread again! much has changed!

I will, in a couple of days.
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:22
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8787491&posted=1#post8787491

Bitch away!