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From here. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=355708&page=4)

1 Imperial Fleet is being sent to Muru's region.


OOC: fleet consists of
4 Intrepid Class Carriers
4 Fiery avenger missile ships
4 shield AA ships
4 tracker ASW ships
20 Romulus Battleships
30 Legate Cruisers
40 Vesuvius Frigates
60 Centurion destroyers
10 Velite subs.
Plus additional supply and transport ships.


On shore, what troops the tiny country could spare stood in wait. But they were were only the side show. Even if the other countries cames to their aid, this naval force would do irreprable damage to their country before it was defeated. It was their clear goal to make sure that no hostile ship got a clear shot at the empire.

Elsewhere, in a secret location, a high-yield nuclear warhead was being prepared. It had been purchased some time ago at great expense from one of corporate-nations in case of overwhelming odds. When the fleet actually attacked, the Muruians would make sure that they didn't walk away from this un-harmed.

three hours to deadline.

The loundspeakers on the street corners blared.
"ATTENTION ALL CITIZENS. ATTENTION ALL CITIZENS. WE ARE NOW AT DEFCON 1. THIS IS NOT A DRILL, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL."

The streets were abuz with millitary activity, the countrys londstanding policy of a few years of mandatory millitary service was paying off. Government officals stood on street corners handing out weapons, armor, and gasmasks to the reactivated reservists. Civillians rushed to basements or in some cases, protective bunkers.

Although the countries millitary was tiny compared to the attacking force, they prepared to resist. The countries airforce was placed on high alert for bombers, and troops on the beaches started digging trenches and laying landmines.

Inside the NWB (Nonconventional Weapons Bureau), the countries chemical and biological weapons devlopment facilites were put into action. While it was likely that the war would be over one way or another before they outputted anything usefull, they were still there.

The Emporor and his top advisors were evacuated from the capital building into a "secret location". Inside the bunker, they sat, and waited.

2 and a half hours to deadline.

OOC: question. whats the general layout of your country, name of capitol and how many standing troops(not reserveists) do you have?

IC: The fleet begins to spread out over approx. 100 mile area(100 miles off the coast) with each task force forming its on defensive bubble around there carrier(ooc; all numbers in the fleet are divisible by 4 taskforces so each group has an equal number of ships including about 10 transport and 10 supply ships per taskforce.)

In Belem an airborne division is being prepped and loaded onto transport planes. Long range bombers like B-52s are and B-2s are also being prepared for takeoff.

OOC: As a dictatorship, the emporor likes to keep his millitary on-hand. Plus the easly activateable reservists. Probably about 300,000 standing troops, with another 1 to 200,000 reservists. (or about 10% of the population at full Defcon).

General Layout: Most of the population is cenered in large, highly industrialized cities. The largest of which is the capital, Ashen.

Millitary Layout: The countries defenses are not concentrated in large places, but spread out. For example, instead of building a fort, they spread out highly-camoflauged bunkers over a large area, each one with a small AA gun. Fields of landmines litter the country, and during times of peace they are deactivaed by remote codes. But for now their on.

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The Muruian navy, knowing that their nuke will only distroy one of the 4 task forces, is on station ready to engage the other 3.

20 Typhoon Class Attack Subs
10 Unity Class Missle Crusers
10 Zephyr Class Heavy Attack Subs
5 Gale Class Missle Subs

OOC: Just want to note here that Belem's forces will be split, no matter how many units he has. Logistics is a busy business.

And some assitance arrives (see other thread).


First Fleet "Rainmaker"
8 Nasrad Class Dreadnaughts
5 Glory Class Supercarriers
5 December Class Destroyers
8 Seal Class Air Defense Destroyers
12 Zeus Class AEGIS Destroyers
10 Invinsible Class Battleships
10 Iowa Class Battlecruisers
10 Arcadia Class Air Defense Cruisers
10 Pirate Class Light Cruisers
15 Ticonderoga Class Cruisers
10 Ares Class Frigates
10 Silencer Class Missile Frigates
15 Firelli Class Amphibious Assault Ships
6 Delta Class Submarines
10 Seawolf Class Submarines w/2 mantas each
8 Perrigon Class Minesweepers

40 B-52s and 20 B-2s are launched to the vicinity of Buechoria they are each loaded with 10 anti shipping missiles.


The Imperial fleet manuerved into positions the task forces would stay out of gunrange of the gunrange of the battleships.


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Muru this is your last chance to accept the ultimatum. You have 30 minutes to accept.

Secret IC: targets for cruise missiles and AS missiles are locked into missiles prepared to be launched.

And some assitance arrives (see other thread).


Those would be my forces.

40 B-52s and 20 B-2s are launched to the vicinity of Buechoria they are each loaded with 10 anti shipping missiles.


The Imperial fleet manuerved into positions the task forces would stay out of gunrange of the gunrange of the battleships.


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Muru this is your last chance to accept the ultimatum. You have 30 minutes to accept.

Secret IC: targets for cruise missiles and AS missiles are locked into missiles prepared to be launched.

OOC: I'm not sure if this is godmoding, but i don't think so because i forewarned you of the nuke, and there isn't a great deal you can do to stop a shell like this.

"Nuts."

Not waiting for the 30 minutes to be up, the nuke was lauched at 1 of the four groups. Not using a plane or a cruse that could be shot down, it was actualy loaded into an conventional long-range artillery piece. The gunnery crew had taken no chances with their caluctaions, and the airburst shell exploded right on target.

The massive mushroom cloud consumed the entire quarter of the task force in an instant, the massive shock and pressure waves distroying the ships not on the surfase. Elsewhere, the entire Muruian navy laucned a torpedo attack on the second of the four groups, with land-based jets and missles providing support.

In the country, interceptor planes were put in the air, scouting for bombers.

OOC: I have to log off for the night, so please don't get too involved until i have a chance to respond.

"We'll give you one last warning before we attack Belem. Send your forces back to your nation, or else the military of Euroslavia will be forced to dispose of your fleet."

Captain Miroslav, a decorated bomber pilot who had flown countless hours in the first 'War on Sino'. As a Tu-95 bomber pilot, his role was quickly becoming obsolete in the eyes of air force planners. But every naval officer knew the importance of the Tu-95 bomber, especially designated the Tu-95N cruise missile dispensing aircraft. Inside its massive berth and suspended below its fuselage were a total of ten cruise missiles, modified for anti-shipping duties. Also on his aircraft were four As-19 Kingfish VIs anti-shipping medium range missiles. Today he would see more duty, attacking that same enemy he had attacked not long ago. Him and the rest of 540 Special Mission- Maritime Oriented Wing. The other seven Tu-95 bombers in his squadron were arrayed out behind him in an offset 'V'. Along with him were eight F-57C Molniya, two DP-21A/B/C EW/Interceptor aircraft, and the occasional fighter escorted CL-19 refueling tanker.

Capt. Miroslav glanced at the now digitized gages of this 'aging' (it was, technically, brand new as it had been rebuilt with all new systems) aircraft. Everything was green, perfect in the eyes of those who designed this extraordinary airplane. Designed to bring a nation to its knees with strategic weapons, this aircraft now cut the 'balls' off of any invading/attacking force, neutralizing their will to go on. That's what Miroslav would do today.

He quickly spoke into his helmet-mounted mic on a radio channel leading to Muru's national command structure, "Do not be alarmed. This is Soviet Bloc aircraft EM-Nine-One-Five. Repeat, EM-Nine-One-Five. We are here to assist you against Belem. We ask permission to cross into your airspace..." Miroslav glanced over to his co-pilot, another captain by the name of Stuvensky who gave him a light shrug.

As the force approached, the aircraft began plugging in the coordinates and targetting interfaces of the Belem vessels into their cruise missile's targetting systems. The cruise missiles were targeted for all cruise missile and anti-shipping missile launching ships in Belem's fleet. The anti-shipping missiles aboard the bombers were targetted against the fleet's perimeter ships and designated defense ships to saturate their defenses. They would arrive just before the cruise missiles.

As they near the Belem position, four of the eight F-57Cs and one DP-21 break off from the group, banking towards Belem's unarmed and unescorted B-52s and B-2s (well within radar range to the DP-21).

Within minutes they would be within range for an all-out missile strike on the Belem forces.

(We are at war with Belem and since we have forces in the presumed area [Pacific right?] why not help out a country in need, even if it isn't much...)

ooc: the way you orchestrated the attack is godmodding but ill accept the loses.

Most of the task force targette by the nuke was wiped out except for the ships furtherst from the explosion and the heavier ships.

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As soon as the reports of nuclear weapons came in the fleet prepared there own nuclear missiles for launch.

The fleet fires over 100 Javelin AS seaskimmer missiles(mach 3) against the Muru fleet.

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Within 10 minutes the rest of the fleet launches 4 tomahawk cruise missiles into muru directed at there major cities in addition to the 4 tomahawks 200 conventional tomahawks are launched to cover the 4 from being taken out by point defense systems.

Captain Miroslav wouldn't know what happened until he received a message over his radio, stating Muru had fired a nuclear weapon at the Belem fleet and Belem returned fire. He couldn't see the nuclear blast at all as he was way, way too far away.

"All 540. Permission is granted. Fire on will. I repeat, permission granted, fire on will!"

He glanced out his side window and below him, watching cruise missiles drop from their hardpoints aboard his flanking wingmates. He could feel the tension in his controls as his own aircraft shuddered under the stress of ten cruise missiles departing her steel innards. The weapons officer in back was coordinating the strike, as his aircraft was the designated command aircraft, forced to coordinate everything this squadron did. Before he knew it, the horizon was filled with vapor trails.

They would wait ten minutes before deploying the much faster anti-shipping missiles, their much smaller bodies streaking into the seemingly frozen pale blue sky at this altitude. They would arrive before the cruise missiles and strike the perimeter, CIWS ships, hopefully disrupting defense long enough to allow the cruise missiles to do their job. These anti-shipping missiles would be deployed as a sea-skimming weapon while the cruise missiles would strike their targets from a high angle of attack.

As soon as weapons were released, the order was given to pull back. Their mission was done for now. Six of the eight F-57Cs would escort the Tu-95s while the other two would escort the two DP-21As on waiting for damage reports (The F-57Cs sent to attack the bombers were pulled back).

OOC: what range you firing the cruise missiles at?


Since the fleet was on alert preparing for the attacks 80 planes were in the air.

15 of the 40 F-40s head in to engage the fighters attacking the bombers. 5 B-52s are taken out before the fighters can get an intercept. The fighters at about 75 miles launch 3 Long range scorpion missiles each.

20 F-40s and 20 F-42s head towards the SB bomber group for a long range intercept...

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Carriers begin scrambling all fighters on the deck and fleet defenses go hot.

HadesRulesMuch, as promised, rushes to the defense of the christians in Muru and Belem. Its world-class economy, ranked one of the strongest in its region, has been effectively switched over to military production. For combat, it sends:

5 Million Undead Troops
12 Imperial Class Starships
12 Squads of F-1s
200 Abrams tanks equipped with depleted uranium armor
10 Nimitz Class Carriers
25 Spruance Class Destroyers
Lead by Hades, Lord of the Dead, riding atop Cerberus, the Three-Headed Hellhound

Warner, further interference from any nation besides Belem and Muru will encur atmosphere ionization from HadesRulesMuchs Imperial Star Destroyers. All nations are warned, stand down or risk atmospheric ionization.

Noting that its warning was ignored, and two nations, the Soviet Bloc and Euroslavia, chose to insert their own military forces into the fight, HadesRulesMuch is left with no choice but to officially act against the rogue nations that have struck against Belem.

The newly constructed Star Destroyers finish moving into orbit above Muru. Anti-missile defense systems activate and begin chipping away at the Soviet Bloc's cruise missiles. Accuracy is only about 63%, but hopefully it will be enough to keep Belem from being annihilated. Meanwhile, the rest of the fleet circles around behind Muru's thin forces, preparing for a massive invasion, spearheaded by Hades himself, riding stop Cerberus.

I'll come back tomorrow, for now, I leave my forces in the capable hands of Belem. *Salutes

OOC- Our range is at about 700 miles. Cruise missiles were fired at 700 miles. Anti-shipping missiles were fired at about 550 miles (their max range).

Btw, I pulled back the fighters before they got in intercept range so they're back to escorting the bombers...

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After receiving word that a Belem force was quickly approaching and outnumbered them ten to one (two F-57Cs and two DP-21As stayed behind), they decided to punch it... And fucking fast. The F-57Cs could hit Mach 3.2 for a short period, jolting them ahead of anything coming but after that it would be in the Mach 2.6 to 2.8 range. The two DP-21s were much, much slower. They could hit Mach 1.8. Due to their slow speed, the DP-21s dropped to an altitude of fifty feet, skimming the waves at a 'leisurely' Mach 1.6. Hopefully, they wouldn't get noticed (the incoming fighters were probably in the 30,000 ft range of altitude, above cloud cover. And if they did look for them below them, chances are their signatures would get jumbled in the continuously churning waves. Their chances for survival were great while the F-57Cs led the oncoming fighters on a useless chase.

The Tu-95s would soon get refueled by a few CL-19 tankers as well as receive an extra garrison of fighter escorts.

OOC- HadesRulesMuch, Star destroyers? Come on... Ignored.

OOC: k

OOC: uh..going mach 1.6 at 50 fleet would rip a plane apart theres more air resistance down there.


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OOC: damage is assumed to be spread over all the task forces. so it would be 19 missiles per two groups and 20 missiles for 2.


The groups that weren't damaged by the muru attacks use the full force of there CIWS against the incoming missiles each group knocks out all but three(theres 40 combat ships in each taskforce.) The damaged task force lets 12 slip through.

1st task force- 2 destroyers hit by 1 missile light damage. 1 frigates tower was hit radar ops out.
2nd task force- 1 cruiser hit in engneering by 2 missiles engines out towing required. 1 destroyer hit by 1 missile moderate damage 25% of weapons out.
3rd task force- 1 battleship hit by 1 missile. 1 ASW shit hit by 2 missiles, 1 missile detonated a torpedo battery causing heavy damage to the deck.
4th task force-
3 missiles hit a cruiser causing heavy damage to the ship.
2 missiles hit a previously damaged destroyer sinking it.
4 missiles hit a battleship causing heavy damage.
2 missiles hit a already damaged frigate crippling it.
1 missile per 2 destroyers moderate damage.

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The fighters using there supierior speed and afterburners start catching up to the bombers. At 100 range the fighters will launch 70 long range missiles against the force.

OOC- No time for an IC post but yeah, I know. The Mach 1.6 was actually for them cruising at 20,000 feet but I nixed that and went with sea-skimming and forgot to change the speed.

The newly constructed Star Destroyers....


Future tech is ignored...

The Euroslavic Navy began to approach the already damaged Fleet of Belem. They were taking a huge beating from Muru and Soviet Bloc, but now it was time that Euroslavia went in, and defeated the remaining forces. The General immediately ordered an offensive stance as they approached. The submarines immediately moved ahead of the fleet and began to open fire. The 6 Delta Class Submarines fired 2 torpedos each at the approaching Belem ships.

Almost simultaneously, 10: F-12C Advanced Attack Jets and 10: F-117 stealth bombers were set to take off and attack Belem forces. The F-12C's streaked ahead and began launching missiles, approximately 20 of them, at the coming enemy. Hopefully, they didn't have a chance at noticing the fast moving Euroslavic air force.

At that point, the F-117's moved in, lowering their altitude in hopes that their stealthiness (if thats even a word) would keep them from being noticed. 6 of the F-117's moved in at a slower pace, while the other 4 tried to get a better stance against the rest of the fleet, and prepared themselves for deploying their bombs. Each were equipped with 2 GBU-27 laser-guided bombs. The 6 F-117's moving in got to their position and dropped 1 bomb each upon the enemy's navy. It seemed though, that they Belem air-force spotted the F-117's and they began to scramble, and to get into an evading stance before they could do anything, but in a sense, they were caught off-guard.

ooc: the way you orchestrated the attack is godmodding but ill accept the loses.

Most of the task force targette by the nuke was wiped out except for the ships furtherst from the explosion and the heavier ships.

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As soon as the reports of nuclear weapons came in the fleet prepared there own nuclear missiles for launch.

The fleet fires over 100 Javelin AS seaskimmer missiles(mach 3) against the Muru fleet.

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Within 10 minutes the rest of the fleet launches 4 tomahawk cruise missiles into muru directed at there major cities in addition to the 4 tomahawks 200 conventional tomahawks are launched to cover the 4 from being taken out by point defense systems.


OOC: ARe those 4 missles nukes?

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Most of the muru missle crusers let their rockets fly moments before being distroyed or heavly damaged by the Javelin.

The missles barrage, while it did decimate the surfase fleet, did little against the mostly submarine forces of muru. The submarines continued their attack, while the missles from the now-dead surfase ships crused towards the carrier.

The missle subs also let their rockets fly, headed straight for the carrier.

OOC: ARe those 4 missles nukes?


I believe they are.

OOC: And here I can remember a time when Belem wasn't a cock,

IC: The Empire of Jitano condemns the actions taken by Belem in this matter, a diplomatic solution could easily have been reached, but now, ther is only destruction. The Empire will support Muru's decision economically and morally, but since Muru is a future tech no fly zone, we are barred from interceding militarily

ooc: yes the 4 tomahawks are nuclear tipped.

The Euroslavic Navy began to approach the already damaged Fleet of Belem. They were taking a huge beating from Muru and Soviet Bloc, but now it was time that Euroslavia went in, and defeated the remaining forces. The General immediately ordered an offensive stance as they approached. The submarines immediately moved ahead of the fleet and began to open fire. The 6 Delta Class Submarines fired 2 torpedos each at the approaching Belem ships.

Almost simultaneously, 10: F-12C Advanced Attack Jets and 10: F-117 stealth bombers were set to take off and attack Belem forces. The F-12C's streaked ahead and began launching missiles, approximately 20 of them, at the coming enemy. Hopefully, they didn't have a chance at noticing the fast moving Euroslavic air force.

At that point, the F-117's moved in, lowering their altitude in hopes that their stealthiness (if thats even a word) would keep them from being noticed. 6 of the F-117's moved in at a slower pace, while the other 4 tried to get a better stance against the rest of the fleet, and prepared themselves for deploying their bombs. Each were equipped with 2 GBU-27 laser-guided bombs. The 6 F-117's moving in got to their position and dropped 1 bomb each upon the enemy's navy. It seemed though, that they Belem air-force spotted the F-117's and they began to scramble, and to get into an evading stance before they could do anything, but in a sense, they were caught off-guard.

OOC: what type of missiles are the fighters launching and what are there targets? Also with the stealth bombers they would have to be directly over the fleet to drop a gbu.

Naval attack.
ooc: once again assuming the atacks are divided equal over the 4 task forces
1st taskforce: 2 destroyers and a frigate hit by 1 torpedo apiece sustaining light to moderate damage on there hulls.
2nd taskforce: 1 Cruiser hit by 2 torpedos 1 destroyer hit by 1 torpedo. Cruiser and destroyer sustain moderate damage.
3rd taskforce: 1 tracker ASW ship hit by all three torpedos heavy damage to engineering, the ship will need to be towed.
4th taskforce: 1 previously heavy damaged destroyer is hit by 1 torpedo causing it to start listing and sinking. 2 destroyers hit by 1 torpedo each, 1 is heavily damaged 1 moderately damaged.

retaliation against the subs: Once the subs reveal there positions by firing torpedos the fleet launches a counter attack of 24 torpedos against the attacking subs.


general counter attack against the fleet: As soon as the first torpedos are fired against the fleet the message across the radiowaves gives all ships a greenlight on the euroslavia fleet. Over the course of the next ten minutes the arsenal ships in the fleet commence the firing of 475 Javelin AS missiles(mach3 sea skimmers) against the euroslavia fleet(which the fleet was maintaining a 50-100 mile distance from to stay out of gunrange.) 220 missiles are targetted directly against the battleships and carriers(about 6 missiles each.) The rest are targetted against the other ships of the fleet.

general stats on javelin AS sea launched verison:
Speed: mach 3 seaskiming attack mode. Mach 4 High attack mode.
Lenght: approx. 20 feet
Range: 300 seaskim 500-600 High attack mode.
Warhead: 100 pound Silicon composite explosive(4x stronger then conventional explosives so the damage is that of 400 pounds of explosive)


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Air attack OOC: once you post what type of missiles targets and range ill post a counter to the fighters

IC for the bombers: As the bombers approach they are detected at about 30 miles out from the fleet because of anti stealth radar. The fleet launches 20 Kracken longrange radar/IR missiles and 15 Scorpion long range radar/IR guided missiles against the incoming bombers.

OOC: whoops, I thought I posted that stuff. My bad...
They're anti-aircraft missiles, and their distance is approx 500 miles. They were fired at your air force. I'll make an IC post soon..

retaliation against the subs: Once the subs reveal there positions by firing torpedos the fleet launches a counter attack of 24 torpedos against the attacking subs.


OOC: Hold on, what about the missles? Also, assuming each sub fires two torpedo's, unless my gunners are the worst shots in the ENTIRE WORLD you'll take a lot more damage then that.

ooc1: post damage for the nuclear exchange.


ooc: uh those why on Euroslavias attack. And exactly how many subs do you have and how many torpedos were fired?

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Transmission to Muru on all channels:


Ultamitum to Muru: The Imperial Empire is offering you this rare oppurtunity to surrender in the face of impossible odds. You have seen our power to level your cities and we have enough weaponary aboard the fleet alone to destroy your nation. Therefore we offer you the chance to surrender unconditionally and we will spare the rest of your country.

Location:Rubikov Time: 13:00
Sectary:Sir
Permier: Yes
Sectary:A Nuclear Weapones have been fired we do not know were they are headed.
Permier:Put the nation at Defcon 5 (It is only use when a nuclear weapon is fired.)
Sectary:Yes sir
(30 sec later the alarms went off all over the country as all the citzens ran to the bunkers the and all of the military was on full alert the whole Navy,Army,Airforce,Special Forces was deployed to defened are nation)
Offical Satement from the Permier:If any Nuclear attack on my nation we will lunch 2 Nuclear Wepones that will reach mach 9 at the nation that attacks with nucks us and we wish that we don't have to use them so plz end the war without having my nation attack you with nucks we just want to defened are self so don't attack me and I will not attack you thank you.We are nutral.

OOC: Apologies for not posting losses yet, I work 2 part-time jobs, and I go to school full-time. :-/ I should make a post later tonight.

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"General! We have nuclear explosions on the scope!"
She nodded. "Bring it up on the overhead."
Immediately, the room dimmed and the huge screen displayed what OVERSIGHT had seen - mushroom clouds over the nation of Muru.
"Anything of vast interest over there?"
"A Euroslavian fleet is in the area, and appears involved in the conflict."
"Is it a NATO matter?"
The aide shook his head. "Not at this time, General."
Another nod. "Move PANDORAS BOX six over the area to keep ICBM and other such at a minimum."
"What of the fleets?"
General Riva Sola al-Din shrugged. "Not our problem. Our entire intent will be to keep the large scale nuclear weapon use to a minimum. Fallout affects us all. Beyond that..." - she yawned - "Vastiva has no interest."

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Far above, a single satellite fired it's jets and moved into position over the nation of Muru.

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(Open Transmission to the various leaders)

To All Nations involved in Muru conflict zone

Vastiva has no interest in your conflict at this time, and is and remains neutral. However, the ecological damage caused by repeated use of nuclear warheads is beyond consideration.

Vastiva has a "No First Strike" policy. However, we cannot accept the genetic damage from the use of nuclear weapons. It has therefore become necessary to deploy Vastivan satellites over the conflicted region. The entire purpose of the satellites will be to destroy any ICBM or equivalent ballistic missiles before they can unleash further nuclear hell. This system is not selective in nature, and will destroy launches from both sides.

Thank you most humbly for your time.

Ab-shalom and greetings;

We belatedly profess our sorrows for the hundreds if not thousands or millions of civilians which the Belemic nuclear attack incinerated.

We would also point out - belatedly - that many of those so slain were undoubtedly Catholic. It is most saddening that it "became necessary to destroy those who sought to practice their religion in order to save them".

Namaste,
Raahmid Javani
Grand Vizier,
Humble Servant of His Magnificence, the Sultan of Vastiva

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OOC = Woah. Did you just nuke a 10 million nation because you disagreed with them? My, how low can a person go? Are you going to start declaring war on 5 million nations as soon as they post here next, if they don't follow the same political and ideological principles as you? I wonder if you would have been so quick to fight for what was right for Catholics if Muru had been a nation of similar size to your own... sounds more like glory hunting than RPing to me. Besides, isn't God supposed to be against killing people like this?
I have no IC response. Partly because OA doesn't do anything that is of no profit to them, but mainly because this is just really, really low, and not a particularly interesting RP as a result. This is in no way the fault of Muru, who created a fairly interesting thread.

Retaliation against the subs: Once the subs reveal there positions by firing torpedos the fleet launches a counter attack of 24 torpedos against the attacking subs.


general counter attack against the fleet: As soon as the first torpedos are fired against the fleet the message across the radiowaves gives all ships a greenlight on the euroslavia fleet. Over the course of the next ten minutes the arsenal ships in the fleet commence the firing of 475 Javelin AS missiles(mach3 sea skimmers) against the euroslavia fleet(which the fleet was maintaining a 50-100 mile distance from to stay out of gunrange.) 220 missiles are targetted directly against the battleships and carriers(about 6 missiles each.) The rest are targetted against the other ships of the fleet.

general stats on javelin AS sea launched verison:
Speed: mach 3 seaskiming attack mode. Mach 4 High attack mode.
Lenght: approx. 20 feet
Range: 300 seaskim 500-600 High attack mode.
Warhead: 100 pound Silicon composite explosive(4x stronger then conventional explosives so the damage is that of 400 pounds of explosive)


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Air attack OOC: once you post what type of missiles targets and range ill post a counter to the fighters

IC for the bombers: As the bombers approach they are detected at about 30 miles out from the fleet because of anti stealth radar. The fleet launches 20 Kracken longrange radar/IR missiles and 15 Scorpion long range radar/IR guided missiles against the incoming bombers.


OOC: Still waiting for your losses with your air force.

Luckily, the distance of the Euroslavic fleet and the Belem fleet gave Euroslavia time to manuever in such a way to avoid maximum damage from the barrage of missiles fired by Belem. Unfortunately though, a lot of the missiles couldn't be avoided due to their high explosion radius.

- 4 of the 5 December Class Destroyers were sunk. All of them were hit indirectly, but repeatedly, creating too much damage for them to even move.
- 7 of the 12 Zeus Class AEGIS Destroyers were sunk in the same manner. The 8th Destroyer was hit in the rear, but minimal damage was taken, and it is still afloat, although, slowed down.
- 6 of the Ticonderoga Class Cruisers were sunk, despite their quicker speed. The 7th and 8th Cruisers were hit, and the 7th is paralyzed. The 8th is still mobile.
- 8 of the Ares Class Frigates were hit and sunk with multiple missiles. The strongest of the Ares Frigates was hit with 4 of these specialized missiles before finally sinking.
- 9 Firelli Class Amphibious Assault Ships were sunk.
- 7 Invinsible Class Battleships were sunk, despite their massive defense.

The bruised and battered Rainmaker Fleet was sent to defend Muru, but now, it has been completely destroyed by nuclear warfare. Euroslavia swiftly condemns Belem for its actions at killing innocent men and women. For now, the remainder of the Fleet will withdrawal from Muru waters, back to Euroslavia, in case of an attack upon the soil of our nation by Belem.

OOC = Woah. Did you just nuke a 10 million nation because you disagreed with them? My, how low can a person go? Are you going to start declaring war on 5 million nations as soon as they post here next, if they don't follow the same political and ideological principles as you? I wonder if you would have been so quick to fight for what was right for Catholics if Muru had been a nation of similar size to your own... sounds more like glory hunting than RPing to me. Besides, isn't God supposed to be against killing people like this?
I have no IC response. Partly because OA doesn't do anything that is of no profit to them, but mainly because this is just really, really low, and not a particularly interesting RP as a result. This is in no way the fault of Muru, who created a fairly interesting thread.

ooc: muru launched a nuclear attack against me first and pre emptively.

OOC: Still waiting for your losses with your air force.


ooc: sorry forgot about those.


Fighters and bombers take evasive actions(and ECM) against incoming missiles. 9 aircraft are destroyed. 3 B-52s. 4 F-42s and 2 F-40s.

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OOC:

You fired four nuclear-tipped Tomahawk cruise missiles. These are armed with 1 kiloton warheads. But lets give you a megaton just for giggles.

1 megaton:
Air blast radius - 7.2 km
near total fatalities - 2.7 km
ionization radius - 3.1 km
Thermal radiation - 11.7 km
Fireball radius - 430 km

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html

This means you did some damage, not you "glassed his nation".

Back to realistic damage levels. This is why ICBMs have been cut off - you need heap BIG vehicle to carry 200 megaton bombs.

Transmission to Muru on all channels:


Ultamitum to Muru: The Imperial Empire is offering you this rare oppurtunity to surrender in the face of impossible odds. You have seen our power to level your cities and we have enough weaponary aboard the fleet alone to destroy your nation. Therefore we offer you the chance to surrender unconditionally and we will spare the rest of your country.

++40 subs, firing 2 torpedo's per barrage. they can fire two barrages before they have to reload. That's 160 torpedo's in the water.++

The responce is swift, if a bit crude.
"You can go #$@! yourselves."

++Sorry for the dealy, i thought the thread had died.++

The nukes, while they did heavly damage the tiny country, were not nearly as bad as they could have been. The preparations made meant that relivly few were killed outside of ground zero.

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Meanwhile, at sea, the massive torpedo barrage streaked towards it's target.....

OOC:
Didn't pay any attention to this thread until earlier.

Belem, you're fighting a THREE FRONT WAR right now, one with Muru, one with Soviet Bloc, and another with me, IDF, Seversky, and my other allies. How the hell are you managing this?

OOC:
Didn't pay any attention to this thread until earlier.

Belem, you're fighting a THREE FRONT WAR right now, one with Muru, one with Soviet Bloc, and another with me, IDF, Seversky, and my other allies. How the hell are you managing this?

OOC: this is a skirmish not a full scale war. Soviet bloc war got retconned cause buechoria refused to post in it so we went to status quo and basically said "in our timelines what we wanted happened." so that wars overs.

Ships and submarines in the area begin evasive manuervs and deploying countermeasures against the incoming torpedos.

Approx. 50 torpedos make it through the heigtened defense network and countermeasures grid. The targets mainly hit are perimeter ships who were shielding for heavier ships.


10 destroyers hit by 2 torpedos each moderate to heavy damage sustained from flooding.

1 ASW tracker hit by 5 torpedos, crippled and sinking.

5 Frigates hit by 1 torpedo each, light to moderate damaged engines knocked out on 1

2 Battleships hit by 3 torpedos each moderate damage, suspension of combat ops in some gun batteries due to flooding of powder rooms.

2 Velite submarines hit by 2 torpedos each. Sunk.

1 Carrier hit by 4 torpedos, flight ops suspended till flooding is under control.

3 Transport ships hit by 2 torpedos each moderate damage.

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Counter attack against subs.

The perimeter submarine defense around the fleet is the first to respond against the enemy subs. The 5 submarines in range each fire 4 torpedos apiece at the revealed enemy submarines(20 total.)

The next to respond are the destroyers and other perimter ships. In total an additional 80 torpedos are launched at the enemy submarines (2 per sub.)


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Attack against Muru proper

ooc:coming soon class is starting so i have to go

++Lesse, Muru isn't a backward nation, just a small one. So their submarines arn't less advanced then your fleet. And submarines have to worry about torpedo's as much as capital ships (perhaps more so) so they would have full countermeasures on. submarines that are going at flank speed, evasive manuvers, and have explosions from 160 torpedo's cloaking them from sonar (plus full defense screens). Would probably have slighly better evasion chances then the capital ships. With yoru ships 50/160 got thought, so that's a ratio of 1/3.2. For the sub's, well chalk that up to an even 1/4.2. From an origonal barrage of 80 torpedo's that's a total of 19 hits.++

8 Submarines hit by two torpedo's, distroyed or sinking.
2 Submarines hit by torpedo in aft section, engines crippled (but they can still emergency-surfase)
1 Submarine takes a direct hit in the torpedo storage bays, instantly distroyed.
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29 Fully Intact subs.
2 Heavly Damanged Subs

Muru's fleet counter attacks, focusing their barrage on the ships that wern't effected by the first barrage.

29*4=116 torpedo's (assuming your fleet's defense ratio has been lowered to 1/3 due to lost ships, that's roughtly 40 hits)

The two crippled subs, forced to surfase, launch their four torpedo's, and then let their missles fly towards the Belemian fleet.

ooc: huzzah internet in class.

IC: 35 Torpedos get past defenses as the fleet enters into a heavy alert state and continues it ASW warfare.

Counter attack against the subs: The fleet brings most of its ASW forces to bear on enemy sub positions using active pinging to assure positive lock ons. More ships and ASW choppers are brought into range to keep up a constant barrage. A total of 90 torpedos are launched at the unharmed subs still capable of firing on the fleet. The two trackers within range begin each launch a dozen depth charges into the general area of the Muru subs.


2 Javelin AS missiles are launched against each of the surfaced subs.

Damage: 5 Frigates hit by 2 torpedos each. moderate damage to ships. 1 is crippled.
4 destroyers hit by 3 torpedos each. Heavy damage to structure of the ships.
4 Battleships hit by 2 torpedos each. Moderate damage to the Romulus ships because of heavy armor.
5 Torpedos hit a Fiery Avenger ship, causing a detonation of its armaments sinking the ship.


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Counterattack on Muru proper:

Following the denial of the ultimaitum the fleet even though under attack continues operations against the Muru coast. The fleet fires its last 4 Nuclear tipped missiles(javelins) at Muru. two are directed at possible landing beaches and the other 2 are targetted against remaining Muru urban centers.

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Preparations in Belem

A flight of over 100 transport planes begins loading a full division of paratroopers. As well as an escort of 60 Viper fighters.

Whoa look at that! Here comes the Tag!!!

++nukes noted, the population centers are heavly damaged, but not distroyed due to affromentioned procedures.++

Another 10 subs are distroyed, more would have been hit, but the sub commanders dived to maximum depth and headed away from the battle at full speed.

The fleet begins to deploy sonar buoys at a 50 mile perimeter around the fleet and destroyers on patrol at the edge continue active pinging for incoming submarines as well as ASW choppers patrolling at 75 miles out. The rest of the fleet begins damage control operations and performing quick repairs on the fleet.


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Troops aboard the transport ships begin preparing for amphibious assault in an NBC environment.

A small semi taskforce is beginning to form around a group of 15 transport ships in the center of the fleet ooc: numbers coming soon.

The transport planes and fighters in Belem proceed to take off headed towards Muru.

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Transmission to Muru:

This is your last chance to accept the ultimatiuem there will be no further negiotations after this.

The screen turns on, it shows the emporor sitting in what is presumeably the command bunker. A huge, visible crack runs up the wall behind him, and only about half the lights in the room seem to be working. The emporer himself has a gash across his forehead with a quickly applied bandage on it.

"We will concede to your terms, the few christans who your nukes didn't kill will be allows to practice their religion free of any form of persecution or suppression. In order to be fair, the same goes for all other relgions."

The Viking High Commander Calls the Corps Commanders to an emergency meeting to discuss the situation in Muru seeing their ally in a multi front war against many nations makes the choice an easy one. within 24 hours a battle plan is made up and all troops needed are activated.

Within 20 minutes of the tactical meeting ending 200 stealth fighter/bombers are in the air Flying Map of the Earth towards Muru's coast. When they reach Muru's territory they split off into squadrons of 5 and proceed to fire 2 missiles at all coastal defenses and SAM instalations they spot.


As the planes are taking off a batallion of berserker Commandos are boarding their VP-23 VTOL transport planes. with typical efficiency they are loaded up and awaiting the order to take off before the planes even reach Muruian territory

++did it occure to you that they are winnning without your help, and that WE SURRENDERED?!++

"We congratulate Muru on there wise judgement in the matter. As terms of the unconditional surrender put forth in the Ultimamitum. The Imperial Empire will enact the following conditions.

1. Muru will pay Belem 3 trillion dollars in Reperations for the cost of the war and as compensation to the families of those killed in war and as extra hazard pay to soldiers with the fleet
2. Belem is allowed to place Imperial Bases within the terrirotories of Belem for an indefinate amount of time.
3. Muru adopts Belem Religious laws allowing for Catholicism, Christain sects and the Jewish religion to exist within its borders. All other religions are either to be banned or be strongly discouraged.

As a sign of good faith and your acceptance of the Unconditional Surrender the Holy Imperial Empire will allow your current government to stay in power. Though remember this if you ever defy the Empire again there will be no mercy shown.

"We congratulate Muru on there wise judgement in the matter. As terms of the unconditional surrender put forth in the Ultimamitum. The Imperial Empire will enact the following conditions.

1. Muru will pay Belem 3 trillion dollars in Reperations for the cost of the war and as compensation to the families of those killed in war and as extra hazard pay to soldiers with the fleet
2. Belem is allowed to place Imperial Bases within the terrirotories of Belem for an indefinate amount of time.
3. Muru adopts Belem Religious laws allowing for Catholicism, Christain sects and the Jewish religion to exist within its borders. All other religions are either to be banned or be strongly discouraged.

As a sign of good faith and your acceptance of the Unconditional Surrender the Holy Imperial Empire will allow your current government to stay in power. Though remember this if you ever defy the Empire again there will be no mercy shown.


OOC: Wait wait, hold it. You never mentioned this.

Notquiteaplace sees condition 2 as being a slight sticking point.

1 is quite a lot for a country like Belem, but could be paid in installments. 3 was implied in surrender.

2... perhaps and idea of the troops present and bases would be reasonable before he agrees to this.

We however disagree with Belem's actions, but realise it is too late to do more than tut and shake our head.

OOC:The ultimatum was to unconditional surrender meaning the victor can set any terms it wants in the end.

"Where the hell did you get this from? War reparations? You started this war! If we wanted to be occupied we would have kept fighting until the bitter end. And we are not some satalite state that bows to your every whim. So far you've managed to nuke, irredate, and bomb the people who you claim to protect. Well the SURVIVORS are protected now. Are the lives of your troops so meniningless to you that you will let more die just to achinve that last step?"

OOC:The ultimatum was to unconditional surrender meaning the victor can set any terms it wants in the end.

(surrender yes. unconditonal, hell no)

"We would be willing to concede term #1."

OOC: How do you edit posts?

"Terms #1 and #3, but we will not be occupied."

"We must disagree. It was your foolish actions in the banning of One True Faith that was the cause of the war. You were offered a peaceful way out but refused to accept, hence the war was your cause. Also you introduced nuclear weapons to the war esclating it further. Be happy that we do not call for your head."

"The bases are not an occupation force. If we wished you to be a satelite state it would of been stated the bases are just forward operations and logistic bases for our purporses within the region for any future conflicts as a relay point for forces."

"We must disagree. It was your foolish actions in the banning of One True Faith that was the cause of the war. You were offered a peaceful way out but refused to accept, hence the war was your cause. Also you introduced nuclear weapons to the war esclating it further. Be happy that we do not call for your head."

"Anyone who belived in the One True Delusion was free to practice it. In fact, the could practice it in YOUR country. Surrowned by fellow saved-souls. But that wasn't GOOD enough for you. Well is THIS better?"

*the camera shifts to a news camera, it shows an airport filled with thousands of dead bodies*

"They were all at the airport about to be flown out of the country when the bombs fell. I hope your satisfied."

*the camera shifts back*

"We used one nuke against a purely millitary target, you used EIGHT against civillians!"

"The bases are not an occupation force. If we wished you to be a satelite state it would of been stated the bases are just forward operations and logistic bases for our purporses within the region for any future conflicts as a relay point for forces."

"It's an occuptaion. No matter how many fancy names you give it."

if the occupation were limited perhaps this would agreeable? Perhaps more of a force to respond rapidly and keep an eye, rather than occupy and control would be good?

That way Muru keeps its sovereignity, but Belem is able to note threatening actions and protect people its sees as threatened lo ng enough for its main army to arrive. I dont know the exact numbers, but as Muru will grow rapidly and be able to rebuild, (perhaps it could accept refugess from other nations to rebuild its populace) a force that would dominate today(RL) will be about right for those objectives from about 10 days to three weeks time....

OOC: I know this little to do with me, but I enjoy playing the moderator in arguements, especially if you guys will listen to me. Id prefer to be a respected negotiator and keeper or peace than all powerful warlord.

"If you wish we could send a real occupation forces of Inquisitors to regulate and control your people. The troops at the bases will primarily be logistical and supply troops. An occupying force of dethroned your Emperor and would establish a new government these troops are not performing that function."

seeing no costal defenses or SAM sites the Planes contacted HQ and sent a simple message "the board is clear" they then returned to Viking Lands to refuel and await their next mission.

As soon as the message was sent the 5 VP-23 transports took off towards Muru. They arrived and the commandos quickly disembarked and with practiced efficiency had secured the beach within 2 hours and set up a foreward CP. Jarl Vintersorg radioed to Rear CP notifying them that the beach was secure and ready for the cargo. all transport planes returned to Viking lands as soon as the message was sent.

seeing no costal defenses or SAM sites the Planes contacted HQ and sent a simple message "the board is clear" they then returned to Viking Lands to refuel and await their next mission.

As soon as the message was sent the 5 VP-23 transports took off towards Muru. They arrived and the commandos quickly disembarked and with practiced efficiency had secured the beach within 2 hours and set up a foreward CP. Jarl Vintersorg radioed to Rear CP notifying them that the beach was secure and ready for the cargo. all transport planes returned to Viking lands as soon as the message was sent.

OOC: God Mooooooooooooooooooooooode. Plus, what the hell makes you think i don't have any AA.

Don't ask me how they missed the AA batteries, but they did. The transports take off without an escort and are easly cut to ribbons before they reach their destination.

"If you wish we could send a real occupation forces of Inquisitors to regulate and control your people. The troops at the bases will primarily be logistical and supply troops. An occupying force of dethroned your Emperor and would establish a new government these troops are not performing that function."

"Put a time limit on the occupation. Say......5 years?"

try again:

vikings? Um what are you doing? How did you pass a large naval fleet on the way in (mine) and maybe you should ask for clearance from the other two? unless i missed something.
Anyway unless you are cleared by Belem and Muru, as you appraoched my fleet they would be asking questions about you and contacting both those nations to ask what they want me to do with you.

I have *a few* carriers in that group.

ooc: you didn't say your navy was protecting him.... and if he had any SAM left after the nukes I assumed he would have posted some casualties or at least returned fire since none returned fire I am assuming they are gone so if your SAM want to shoot they can shoot my attack planes that went in first

Edit: also belem sent muru's fleet running and his fleet knows what I'm doing so they wouldn't shoot... if you wish to shoot at my planes that's your choice

REad the info on my defenses. I SPECIFICLY SAID that my defenses wern't concentrated in large area's. Thus, nuking the beaches and population centers distroyed the defenses IN THOSE AREA'S. It did nothing to distroy the SAM sides, radar arrays, and good old fashoid intercept fighters you must get though in order to reach those area's.

His fleet dosn't have to LIFT A FINGER, those transports are allready dead.

The Viking High Commander Calls the Corps Commanders to an emergency meeting to discuss the situation in Muru seeing their ally in a multi front war against many nations makes the choice an easy one. within 24 hours a battle plan is made up and all troops needed are activated.

Within 20 minutes of the tactical meeting ending 200 stealth fighter/bombers are in the air Flying Map of the Earth towards Muru's coast. When they reach Muru's territory they split off into squadrons of 5 and proceed to fire 2 missiles at all coastal defenses and SAM instalations they spot.


As the planes are taking off a batallion of berserker Commandos are boarding their VP-23 VTOL transport planes. with typical efficiency they are loaded up and awaiting the order to take off before the planes even reach Muruian territory

OOC: this was on page 4 of this thread... 2 pages with no responce to them... no fighters shot down so your SAM's were gone or the fighters destroyed them.... they cant just be invisible when you want them to be and then poof into existance and shoot my transports

OOC: this was on page 4 of this thread... 2 pages with no responce to them... no fighters shot down so your SAM's were gone or the fighters destroyed them.... they cant just be invisible when you want them to be and then poof into existance and shoot my transports

It's not called "Being invisible" it's called "not shooting."

I can turn the defenses on and off when i want. Earlier i COULD have fired, but didn't think that shooting down a few fighters would be worth the cost of having those batteries reveal their positions, and making the airfields a key target. I was saving them.

But an INVASION force is worth shooting at. Crash and Burn baby.

Within 20 minutes of the tactical meeting ending 200 stealth fighter/bombers are in the air Flying Map of the Earth towards Muru's coast. When they reach Muru's territory they split off into squadrons of 5 and proceed to fire 2 missiles at all coastal defenses and SAM instalations they spot.


And you know, with EMP, clouds of smoke, camoflauge, ECM, ECCM,and thermal blasts from bombs stopping accurate infrared, i'm sure you got every single one right? [end sarcasm]

Plus, that ignores fighters.

"Put a time limit on the occupation. Say......5 years?"


"Once again its not an occupation its more of a permanent lease of land for a military base."

"Once again its not an occupation its more of a permanent lease of land for a military base."

*sigh* "Fine, but since they are just logistic bases. I see no need for there to be any significan garrison there unless you actually go to war in this reagon. Just a few airfields and some supplies?"

"Not that it matters I suppose.......very well, we aggre to your terms."

"Most likely base personnal will not exceed 50 thousand at any one time with usual levels between 10-20 thousand"

EPLOGUE (unless you object, i'd like to wrap this up):


Muru fully complied with the terms that they had aggreed too. The logistics bases were built, and the christans could practice their religion freely. However, most of them left for the holy empire anyway, there was just too much anti-christan feeling in the air after the war.

The Belemians were stiffed on the war endemities, as the huge hit the Muruian economy took after the war devalued the currency, in the end they would recieve about 1/2 the value of what they origonal asked for.

Thanks to humantarian aid from many countries, the civillians losses were minor (given the circumstances). Much of the radation was cleared from the major population centers in the weeks following the cease fire, and a long term program to clean the radation from the rest of the country began.

When all was said and done, the Muruian sailors had killed 4 foes for evey one of them that died. A momument was built to them in the capital square.

A momument was also build to the 200,000 thousands christans that died from the cruse missles of their fellow belivers.

After a few months (8 or 10), most of the actaull damage was healed, and Muru began it's long economic recovery.

ooc: you didn't say your navy was protecting him.... and if he had any SAM left after the nukes I assumed he would have posted some casualties or at least returned fire since none returned fire I am assuming they are gone so if your SAM want to shoot they can shoot my attack planes that went in first

Edit: also belem sent muru's fleet running and his fleet knows what I'm doing so they wouldn't shoot... if you wish to shoot at my planes that's your choice

well, i wasnt protecting him, but my people are now on that land so I have an interest in it. My ships were there merely for that, and incoming faircraft would be the kind of thing i had deployed them to watch for, for my own safety. My navy would ask what you are doing and for identification on approach and dial up Belem and Muru for confirmation. If confirmed and no danger to us, you would be allowed to pass. If a danegr to my men, I would try to keep you away from my men, but toherwise let you go.

Im not interested in fighting 2 1.5 billion+ nations by myself funnily enough. But im not about to have my troops bombed into dust while unsupported on a humanitarian mission...

EDIT: argh wrong nation again!