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We are looking for other regions and nations located in the 1900-1918 time period, as we seem to be one of the few, and we are excluding nations/former nations of The German Empire, and Luchia's many puppet regions/nations. (No offense Luchia)

We are interested in alliances, and/or Roleplaying opportunities.

Regards,
Keizer Joachim

The Abargraptine People's Republic is currently in the grip of industrial as well as social/political/economic revolution, and considers steam-powered industry, hand-cranked machineguns, telegraphs, and iron ships to be about the height of technology, so I suppose you could call us close, at least.

Politically Abargrapt is increasingly comparable to post Great War Germany (with the New Eastgate Federation acting as our nemesis), and technologically to late C19th Europe and North America. Come the close of its renewed war on the relatively advanced but disunited and complacent Federation there should be a technological explosion moving the nation towards more C20th standards.

Edit: in the event that anyone should take an interest in the Republic, this thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=319969 tells part of the story of the current order's rise from...well, from the gutter.
Here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6944507&postcount=10 is a post detailing one of the nation's few serious warships, giving a basic idea of what its technological base can thus far achieve.

Essalieyan is the founder of an Imperial Dutch region, the Alliante Verenigde Maritieme Vrijstaadten (AVMVS). We would be very interested in forging an alliance with you, and naval construction is our specialty. We build all types of vessels from destroyers to Dreadnoughts, and at a reasonable price. Here for an example, is our newly developed Kruiserjager, a long range vessel that falls between the Armored Cruiser and Battlecruiser in capability.


Kruiserjager, Essalieyan Panterschipp laid down 1913

Displacement:
10,829 t light; 11,740 t standard; 13,011 t normal; 13,977 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
523.94 ft / 519.00 ft x 74.50 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)
159.70 m / 158.19 m x 22.71 m x 7.92 m

Armament:
6 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns (2x3 guns), 389.34lbs / 176.60kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 6.10" / 155 mm guns in single mounts, 113.49lbs / 51.48kg shells, 1913 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
2 - 3.46" / 88.0 mm guns in single mounts, 20.79lbs / 9.43kg shells, 1913 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 3,286 lbs / 1,490 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 340
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9.20" / 234 mm 250.00 ft / 76.20 m 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 74 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.20" / 234 mm 6.10" / 155 mm 6.10" / 155 mm
2nd: 4.00" / 102 mm - -
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 9.20" / 234 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Hydraulic drive, 3 shafts, 45,720 shp / 34,107 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2,289 tons)

Complement:
608 - 791

Cost:
£1.063 million / $4.254 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 411 tons, 3.2 %
Armour: 3,698 tons, 28.4 %
- Belts: 1,480 tons, 11.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 683 tons, 5.3 %
- Armour Deck: 1,425 tons, 11.0 %
- Conning Tower: 110 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 1,792 tons, 13.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,928 tons, 37.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,183 tons, 16.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21,731 lbs / 9,857 Kg = 55.8 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.39
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.453
Sharpness coefficient: 0.36
'Natural speed' for length: 26.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern angle (Positive = stern overhangs aft): 0.00 degrees
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.00 ft / 8.53 m
- Forecastle (12 %): 25.00 ft / 7.62 m (23.00 ft / 7.01 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (12 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Average freeboard: 22.02 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 72.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148.3 %
Waterplane Area: 25,684 Square feet or 2,386 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 123 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 606 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.51
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

ww1? bah!, one big stalemate, the troops go home. end of story.

Perhaps if you are a LAND power it doesn't make much sense, but we are a SEA power, and WWI is the heyday of the Dreadnought. It is in our interest to maintain the level of technology that allows us to rule the seas.

In Abargrapt, talk of anti-aircraft batteries will probably be met with some confusion and the conclusion that, since modern ships can't possibly run on air, these must be weapons designed specifically to deal with ships of sail. Perhaps they've discovered the secret of Greek fire, an Abargraptine fellow might speculate, no doubt considering it all a little quanit.

Anyway, I fear that I must miss the point of Powdia's little interjection. It would have been splendid if the troops all went home, but I'm rather inclined to believe that a fair few million of them are still lying in various bits of foreign fields. It was an exceptionally wasteful conflict, but incredibly important at the same time, and full of human bravery, wit, and invention.

Oh, sorry, I mean it was from start to finish just two lines of troops in two big ditches, doing nothing. Certainly it didn't see some of the most dramatic fleet actions in history, nor the first serious use of air power in warfare or the creation of fighter aces and countless legends. Soldiers had been facing-down tanks since Attila the Hun swept into western Europe on a T-34, of course, and pfft, what wars don't pit Irishmen against Germans in Belgium, and Kiwis against Turks fifteen hundred miles away?

Yes, it was all pretty standard fare, really!

Well, for the record, Abargraptine military strength has been traditionally pivoted upon the (currently two hundred thousand* strong) army and its riflemen, supported by cavalry and artillery. This has been solidified by repeated victory against Federal musketeers and militiamen, of course.

*Abargrapt's population is played at something in the order of fifteen million regardless of what the national profile says, and come victory over the Federation, the Republic's domain shall be increased to cover more than forty million heads.

[OOC: I use a mix of WWI and WWII technology, but most of our culture and tradition comes from Napoleonic France (who would have guessed?).]