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Requesting WMD information

Collectable Knicknacks
08-09-2004, 21:12
Greetings. Until recently we have been silent, and not present on the world's stage. Now, we have decided that it is time for us to present ourselves to the nation of the world.

We were formerly a hard Right-wing nation. However, with the overthrow of the clique that once controlled us, we are moving, slowly, towards centrism, and democracy.

We are utterly committed to defending the peoples of the world from the Far Right Wing and their expansionism. We too suffered beneath the yoke of Far Right oppression. Never again.

We are thus seeking information and sales offers on WMDs, in order that we may safeguard our people from this menace. We have little quarrel with the Far Right, provided they keep their views to themselves; but we are committed to keeping our and other nations safe from Far Right Wing expansion, forever.
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 00:53
As a result of the naked aggression exhibited by Decisive Action and several other nations in the wake of the actions of the equally bizarre and despicable acts of feminany, we are stepping up production of WMDs wherever possible. Biological agents are being researched extensively.
Nikolaos The Great
09-09-2004, 00:56
If you use those WMDs on any LOEL member or any of my allies we will declare a full scale war against you.
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 00:58
We will not employ them unless it is necessary, but the necessity is not something that will be dictated to us.

Research into possible improvements on Spanish Flu is being heavily pursued.
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 01:17
Again, we ask that nations please give to us information on their WMDs. We require at least 100 ICBMs and 10 SSBNs, plus launchers for chemical and biological weapons. We have until now neglected these areas.
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 01:37
OK, nobody interesting in selling me weapons?
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 02:36
Since no WMD sellers have been forthcoming, we have begun a comprehensive programme to improve upon the "Spanish Influenza" virus, last seen in 1919. Spanish Flu was a powerful plague that attacked especially the young, and those in the prime of life. We anticipate that Spanish Flu, properly bred, could be made to reproduce more rapidly within the human body and survive longer outside it.
Surginia
09-09-2004, 03:01
Dear Sirs -

This message is intended as a line of diplomacy to inform you that the Armed Republic of Surginia (and all of its governmental departments) view some of your statements as threats, particularly to civilians, and more descriptively "the young" and those in their "prime of life." Our government, like many others, discourages the deployment of WMDs, particularly on civilians. We assure you that we have no interest in and therefore will not meddle in your affairs (read: "dictating" whether WMD deployment is neccessary or not). However, for our own security, as well as that of our allies, we wish to inform you that, if you do deploy WMDs in a situation seen as inappropriate by a credible, UN-abiding coalition and you are subsequently acted upon, we will assist that coalition - in whatever manner or aspect we deem appropriate.

Please do not interpret this message as a threat. The government and people of Surginia are not interested in imperialism or warmongering. We simply wish to ensure our national safety and that of our allies.

Fervently and Respectfully,

Maj. Gen. S.R. Choice, pH.d
Chief of Combined Departments of Defense,
Armed Republic of Surginia



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imported_Illior
09-09-2004, 03:05
OOC: search Bonstock Special Weapons storefront, he's got whole packages
Triancia
09-09-2004, 03:11
The State Department of Triancia agrees with Mr. Choice in his words. While some countries, Triancia inculded, may indeed mantain Nuclear, Chemical, and, in dwindling sense, biological weapons, they also have the experiance to know that there use should be restricted to the very last resort. We are very reluctant, almost dead set agianst providing other nations with the means to destroy at such a large scale.

However, if you are seeking meathods of dettering possible attack from Weapons of Mass Destruction, there are small scale, conventional means that could be used in place of a de facto MAD pact. Triancia has been developing such technologies, and would consider you for entry into it's reserch program. If you are intereseted, let us know.

Timothy Garner,
Triancian Secretary of State
Surginia
09-09-2004, 03:21
The State Department of Triancia agrees with Mr. Choice in his words. While some countries, Triancia inculded, may indeed mantain Nuclear, Chemical, and, in dwindling sense, biological weapons, they also have the experiance to know that there use should be restricted to the very last resort. We are very reluctant, almost dead set agianst providing other nations with the means to destroy at such a large scale.

However, if you are seeking meathods of dettering possible attack from Weapons of Mass Destruction, there are small scale, conventional means that could be used in place of a de facto MAD pact. Triancia has been developing such technologies, and would consider you for entry into it's reserch program. If you are intereseted, let us know.

Timothy Garner,
Triancian Secretary of State

Mr. Garner -

On a jovial, personal note, Ms. Choice. I, and assuredly the rest of the Surginian government, am pleased with your stance. We agree with you wholeheartedly on the issue of nations holding or downgrading nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons over the long-term. We also agree with you on the policy of deployment of such technologies and weapons in almost no conceivable circumstance; more specifically, in our government's case, a circumstance deserving a WMD response has yet to be ethically conceived.

At this point, Mr. Garner, Surginia applauds Triancian's scientific research and development of alternative methods to deter the brazen use of weapons of mass destruction. We look forward to the possibilities of future relations with your government.

Cordially,

Maj. Gen. S.R. Choice, pH.d
Chief of Combined Departments of Defense,
Armed Republic of Surginia


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Communist Louisiana
09-09-2004, 03:32
I will sell you nuclear weapons and other weapons and launchers. Go to the following website. Its pretty easy to navigate. You will get a special deal when you order. You can read the deal on the order page.

http://www.freewebs.com/nuclearlouisiana/
Triancia
09-09-2004, 03:42
The State Department apoliogizes, ma'am! Your nation has not been a pirority with the Royal Intelligence Service, and I made my statment with what I now see is incorrect information. I beleive next time this department writes up a communique, we will have pictures of it's recipients!

Our gender mistake aside, our offer to inculde more partners in our research programs is avalible to all responsible, civilized nations, which Surgina, without a doubt, qualifies. If you are interested, please, feel free to telegram my Government.

We look forward to mantaining and furthuring postives relationships with Surgina, Collectable Knicknacks, and all democratic nations.

Timothy Garner
Triancian Secretary of State

OOC: Not to be a killjoy, but I don't want to Hijack CK's thread. :)
Neo-Wu
09-09-2004, 04:27
In recent actions of the nation of Collectable Knickknacks, Jorge released the following response, "We people of Neo-Wu would never allow a nation of your scale to hold such information. We think that you are not experienced enough, nor worthy of such information. We thank you for your time."

Jorge Gautier
Arms Coordinate of Neo-Wu
Belem
09-09-2004, 05:24
Belem is willing to sell an assortment of suitcase nukes and dirty bombs.


OOC: more info to come soon. too tired to type up a full post.
Garvainia
09-09-2004, 05:40
"I understand if you feel pressured to protect your country,but WMD are the last place I think you should look,you impose fear on other countries,which makes them want to dismantle them,which they ultimately do,unless you use them against them,in which case you have wasted them for a reason thats completely different then why you first bought them.

Just my 2 cents

Wesley Pezniere
General Counciler of State
Garvainia"
Slaytanicca
09-09-2004, 12:04
Secret:
We are interested in developing nuclear, biological and chemical weapons with your nation. Much of our defence budget has always gone into R&D, and we are mining moderate quantities of uranium for our powerstations.
Collectable Knicknacks
09-09-2004, 23:59
Slaytanicca;

Our bioweapons programme is the largets of our 3 WMD programmes.
Nuclear weapons's high cost make their deployment difficult.
Biological and to a lesser extent chemical weapons are a
superb deterrent and above all else relatively cheap; they
are also ideal for orbital deployments, being smaller than
nuclear weapons and having a far greater effectiveness.

We would therefore be happy to pursue a joint WMD program,
as we could benefit much from one anothers' reserach.

Gentlemen and Ladies who have extressed concern at our policy:

We are not intenting to use WMDs unless it is deemed necessary. Currently our policy is only to use them in national defence or in defence of nations we are assisting, and then only after careful consideration.

As to Spanish Flu: We feel that it is an ideal biological weapon and will as such develop it.
Drakonian Imperium
10-09-2004, 02:52
The pursuit of Weapons of Mass Destruction is not the answer. Such things are only built to commit mass murder not protection.

You do not build WMDs not to be used. They are built for the sole purposed of the wholesale slaughter of civilians something that will actually result in the exact invasion, which Collectable Knicknacks is trying to prevent.

There are much simpler routes to national protection. Many older nations (like the Imperium, itself) are willing to offer Defense Pacts or the status as Protectorate, allowing them to retain their sovereignty and security at the same time. There are also a myriad of alliances in the world (like the United Emirates; see below) that offer mutual defense and protection.

We implore Collectable Knicknacks and those nations (especially the terrorist state of Belem) engaged in the production, operation, and proliferation of these horrendous devices to stop and end their programs of sanctioned murder. To further this end and goal, the Queen of Trinidad and the Imperium, is currently preparing to host a Conference on the Problem of WMDs. (Please, contact the Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=drakonian_imperium) for more information and/or to reserve your nation's representation at this auspicious event.)

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Grand Dominion of Drakonian Imperium (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=drakonian_imperium)
Belem
10-09-2004, 02:54
ooc: oh terrorist state! I made the lists again!

speaking of lists:

Pocket Nuke(dirty bomb):
Weight: 20-70 pounds.
Maximum destruction range: quarter-half mile*
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over a maximum of 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-150 pounds.
Maximum destruction Range: 1 to 2 miles*
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

*Depending on Location of bomb form of detonation and shielding around the bomb.

Each weapon comes delivered in a heavy duty suitcase with a layer of lead on the inside to help prevent radiation leaks and for the general safety and well being of the bomb.(OOC: it also makes it easier to sneak it through metal detectors.)

Important Note: Due to the sensitive nature of these weapons any attempt to reverse engineer them or disasemble them will result in the self destruction of the bomb. The only approved engineering method for these explosive is the transportation of the device to another means of delivery.
Also note that the weapons are equipped with a Belem tracking device to prevent them from being brought back into Belem after they are sold. If there is an attempt to bring them back into Belem the weapon will be self destructed. Belem will not interfere in any use of the weapon in anyway your country sees fit as long as its attempted use is not in Belem. Tampering with the tracking device will result in self destruction.

Disclaimer: Belem holds no responsibility for the use of the weapon once it leaves Belem borders/airspace and Belem possesion. All uses of the weapon are the full responsibility of the holder at the time and Belem claims no legal, civil or military liability for the use of these weapons.
Alcona and Hubris
10-09-2004, 03:04
The pursuit of Weapons of Mass Destruction is not the answer. Such things are only built to commit mass murder not protection.

You do not build WMDs not to be used. They are built for the sole purposed of the wholesale slaughter of civilians something that will actually result in the exact invasion, which Collectable Knicknacks is trying to prevent.

There are much simpler routes to national protection. Many older nations (like the Imperium, itself) are willing to offer Defense Pacts or the status as Protectorate, allowing them to retain their sovereignty and security at the same time. There are also a myriad of alliances in the world (like the United Emirates; see below) that offer mutual defense and protection.

We implore Collectable Knicknacks and those nations (especially the terrorist state of Belem) engaged in the production, operation, and proliferation of these horrendous devices to stop and end their programs of sanctioned murder. To further this end and goal, the Queen of Trinidad and the Imperium, is currently preparing to host a Conference on the Problem of WMDs. (Please, contact the Drakonian Diplomatic Corps. (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=drakonian_imperium) for more information and/or to reserve your nation's representation at this auspicious event.)

Drakonian Diplomatic Corps.
located in Drako Throne,
capital of the Grand Dominion of Drakonian Imperium (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=drakonian_imperium)

We remind the Imperium that your previous armament policies have led you to greif. As such we suggest that stop waving banners about the place and implement a realistic protection policy which does not utilize the tactically laughable concept of conventional warhead ICBMs. We also strongly reccomend to all nations to take the above advice with a large bag of salt.

Landgravine Hubris,
Outer Consul of The Federated Klatchian Coast.

(OOC: for those not in the know he had two nukes hit him after launching two ICBMs with conventional warheads in a the middle of the first collapse of the UE.)
Slaytanicca
10-09-2004, 03:06
Collectable Knicknacks;
We are delighted to hear from you. We are more than happy to trade technologies with you regarding chemical, nuclear and biological deterrents; furthermore we hope our programs can work in synergy in the future.
Following the succesful introduction of nuclear power as the primary energy source of Slaytanicca, we have had many of our top nuclear physicists working in weapons research for quite some time. We should be ready to test in three months.
We humbly offer a trade of embassies - we understand if, however, you wish these relations remain clandestine.

Yours Faithfully,
- Jeff "Gorevomit" Clipper, Slaytanic PM
Collectable Knicknacks
12-09-2004, 01:58
We are happy for such a trade to be open to the world.

Secret: Work on an improved Spanish Influenza virus, capable of mutating within a matter of days its' protein coating and of surviving longer outside a host, is coming along well. It is estimated that IOC will be achieved in 3 months.
Slaytanicca
12-09-2004, 13:00
To: Collectable Knicknacks
We will be conducting a test explosion in (about eight hours RL).
The test will be of a ten-kiloton implosion device, and will be conducted
aboveground on an as-yet undisclosed atoll in the Pacific. We cordially
nvite you to send delegates or scientists.

Our genetic program remains in relative infancy compared to your own:
we have only recently been capable of giving such a long-term
technology the funding it needs. However, with regards to biological
deterents, we can supply you with dispersal technologies and
manufacturing capabilities, as well as ICBMs with a 6000 kilometre
range. Such capabilities will of course be granted at cost of manufacture.
Fate and Honor
12-09-2004, 14:22
Emperor Roberts of Fate and Honor
Imperial Communique
To: The Sovereign Nation of Collectable Knicknacks

The Empire of Fate and Honor would be more than happy to sell our
recently developed ICBM with you. The rights to manufacture is a $250,000,000.00 one time cost, to buy the Thermo-Nuclear Warhead and Missile together it is a cost of $30,000,000.00 a piece. We look forward to doing much beneficial trade with you.

Picture of Weapon Enclosed: http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=Nuke.jpg
Jonothana
12-09-2004, 14:33
Greetings. Until recently we have been silent, and not present on the world's stage. Now, we have decided that it is time for us to present ourselves to the nation of the world.

We were formerly a hard Right-wing nation. However, with the overthrow of the clique that once controlled us, we are moving, slowly, towards centrism, and democracy.

We are utterly committed to defending the peoples of the world from the Far Right Wing and their expansionism. We too suffered beneath the yoke of Far Right oppression. Never again.

We are thus seeking information and sales offers on WMDs, in order that we may safeguard our people from this menace. We have little quarrel with the Far Right, provided they keep their views to themselves; but we are committed to keeping our and other nations safe from Far Right Wing expansion, forever.


Check my sig. If someone buys something I might actually update it. ALso not for sale in the storefront are a selection of transporter misssiles.
Collectable Knicknacks
12-09-2004, 15:19
Jonothana: I'll get looking at that :)

Fate and Honor: We would be interested in purchasing only the missile, so that we could fit a domestically-built BW warhead and countermeasures system to it.


To: Slaytaniccan Foreign Affairs Dept.
We are most interested in procuring disperal and launch technologies.
Please provide potential cost figures.
SPYDUDES
12-09-2004, 15:27
We, the SPYDUDES, do not use WMD's instead we prefer to just carpet bomb our enemies. MUHAHA
Slaytanicca
12-09-2004, 20:21
Collectable Knicknacks,

We are currently producing weapons usind the coaxial-charge dessemination
method at three times the cost for artillery shells and missile warheads up to
five times cost for rockets and clusterbombs, accounting for addition
precautions in manufacture. We have perfected a spray method for rockets,
bombs and missile warheads, and estimate costs approaching ten times the
standard cost for these munitions. However, primary clouds are somewhat
smaller than those produced with high explosives.

If the virus can withstand the high pressures and temperatures of the
coaxial-charge method, we can have our mustard-gas munitions facilities
modified in a few months. Aerosol spray munitions will incur further time, as
well as extra costs which we will of course foot.

OOC: If this comes across as utter rubbish, tell me and we can settle on something reasonable.
Collectable Knicknacks
12-09-2004, 22:49
We are confident that by the time that V-55 (current code
for the virus) is completed, it will be able to
withstand the heat and pressure of this method. If this is
not the case we have been developing
an insertion method of our own for use in missiles and rockets.
We will send a sample of the virion once it is ready for work.
Slaytanicca
02-10-2004, 01:34
OOC: Sorry! I got caught up in work and forgot about this.
We've now got nukes, up to about 500kT, and ICBMs; I'll sort costing and stuff out ASAP.
Thanks man.