Feminanian Peace Conference (sign up thread)
Feminany
08-09-2004, 18:31
Due to the turbulent times that Feminany has encountered, we will be holding a peace conference for all nations involved. Due to threats that the nation will be 'raped and videotaped', we feel somewhat uneasy about holding the conference on foriegn territory. Therefore the confernece will be held in Gerlin, our nations capital. We assure all foriegn dignitarys that they are in no harm in our nation, our now infamous law does not apply to honoured guests.
The matters for discussion will be
The Bill of Ultimate Perfection: This contraversial law will be up for debate.
Newborn Male Children Again, this is up for debate. In a major concession, we are willing to allow foriegn nation/s to foster this children.
Feminany's Soverenty This issue will be discussed, with the hopeful goal of avoiding war.
If you wish to attend this noble effort to diffuse the war, then please fill in the following application form
Name of Envoy:
Rank of Envoy:
Country of Origin:
Country of origins relation to Feminany:
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten):
Special considerations:
I would like to send an envoy to this conference as an observer, if I may, can you give me the thread URLs that are significant?
Hardheads
08-09-2004, 19:11
The confederacy feels it has a moral obligation to attend so:
name of envoy: Dusanyu Abriel
Rank: Foreign Minister
Country of origin: Confederacy of Lafeel
relations with Feminany: Seeking to get their relations back on the right track, after they were disrupted by these...events
number of dodyguards: none
Trentaur
08-09-2004, 19:18
Name: Gwaihir Curunir.
Rank: Foreign minister.
Country: the Confederacy of Trentaur.
Relations with Feminany: stopping war.
Number of bodyguards: one (but very trained).
The O Faolains
08-09-2004, 19:20
Although we were not Combatants in this war, we would like to send two ambassadors, one to act as a neutral party in negotiations, and two to secure the Adoption of Male New-borns, should the current law stay as it is. We also ask, though off topic if you require any medical aid to your nation. We are good men, and women, we will not fail any victim in their time of need. As we said we do not agree with the current "Perfection Laws" but we also don't like to see the deaths of innocent me... sorry, women and children.
Dumpsterdam
08-09-2004, 19:26
Name of Envoy: Vespasius Rift
Rank of Envoy: Lord and Emperor
Country of Origin: Dumpsterdam
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Considered allied.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): six heavily armed navy stormtroopers and one aide.
Special considerations: Take into consideration Rift's height, wich is around 10 foot.
He is already in your country and is willing to wait untill a suitable location can be found.
Holy Paradise
08-09-2004, 19:33
President John sends a telegram to Feminary:
To: The leaders of Feminary
From: The entire government of Holy Paradise
We want your country to know that if we invade you we promise to God we will not rape your citizens. Our country has a rulebook on what the military can do and it states on page 45, paragraph 2: "Under no circumstances what so ever are any military personnel allowed to abuse a conquered country's citizens. The breaking of this rule is punishable by death. Also, all conquered countries' civilians must be given aid and refuge." As you can see we are a decent country. Therefore, although we support the war on you, Feminary, we are firmly opposed to any abuse of your people.
Name of Envoy: Kayla Harmone
Rank of Envoy: Ambassidor
Country of Origin: Iuthia
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Neutral/Observer
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): Two
> Lizo (Black Viper Specialist - Clanger)
> Mark Joleson (Black Viper Specialist - Human)
Special considerations: Bodyguards to wear Iuthian Gauss Rifles as their standard cultural weapons. These rifles will not be loaded and will be powered down, should firearms be permitted the body gaurd will be equipped with light concealable weapons designed to be drawn quickly in responce to a security threat. The rifles are significant as they symbolise the military prowess of the Iuthian people (both male and female) as well as our 150 years of peace.
Additonal Notes: Iuthia has blacklisted Feminany due to our condemnation over the banning of the male gender. However, we have remained respectful of your nation soveriegn right to rule itself as it sees fit. We are generally opposed to warmongering nations who would kill hundreds of thousands of innocents just to enforce their law on another nation. Whats more we are offended at suggestions of rape being acceptable during such an illegal invasion.
As such Iuthia conciders itself neutral and wishes to observe the peace process to monitor nations who claim to be doing "whats best" for Feminany as we suspect they are nothing more then warmongering fools who have nothign better to do then to overwhelm a small nation which thinks differently.
Holy Paradise
08-09-2004, 19:48
Name of Envoy:John H.
Rank of Envoy: President of the Conservative United States of Holy Paradise and the President of the Colony of Holy Paradise Islands.
Country of Origin: Holy Paradise
Relations with Feminary: Enemy, but wishing to resolve problems peacefully
Number of Bodyguards(Maximum of ten): Ten
Decisive Action
08-09-2004, 20:00
Paul Stahlecker and Joseph Mladic will attend, they will each be accompanied by ten members of the Special Republican Guard.
About the two men.
Minister of Foreign Affairs Paul Stahlecker (41) He is the minister of Foreign Affairs for CM. Very intelligent (IQ of 163). He stands out because he is 6’4 and is very imposing. Although the average male height in CM is 5’11. Rumor has it that when Eleanor Fabus was 19 and Stahlecker was 38, that the two had an affair, it is unclear if this actually occurred and if they are still seeing each other. He helps see to it that friendly foreign nations that need military and economy assistance get it. He also helps see to it that white guerilla armies are in communication with CM military forces. Very renowned for his racially offense remarks that he doesn't hesitate to make on live international TV and radio. The most well-known boxer in Mississippi from his days in the “youth leagues” and then moving into the “teenage leagues” and finally the real leagues. He never lost a match in the teenage or real league, because he learnt all his lessons in the youth league. He was the best boxer in Mississippi for several years until his career was interrupted by the 1984 race war, he joined the white militia and then after the war ended, he was given a position in the cabinet. IQ 163.
Minister of Party Propaganda Joseph “The Jew Baiter” Mladic (40) The chief propaganda minister of Communist Mississippi. He is a very smart man, IQ 153. Renowned for his history of provoking Jews into exploding with rage against him on national TV while he maintained a calm and cool composure, he attempted to get Jews to come across as violent and mean people who don’t like to debate but rather attack enemies. One of his episodes of “Jew Baiting” resulted in him receiving a broken nose and a black eye when he told a Jewish man that, “Swine like you are only here because they didn’t kill enough of your grandparents during World War two.” He is the chief editor and the owner of the newspaper, “On the Attack”, and does the radio broadcast, “Exposing the Enemy”. His most famous quote, printed in his newspaper, is “The Jews are our misfortune.” IQ 153.
Name of Envoy: Abraham Lexus
Rank of Envoy: The Vice President
Country of Origin: Doom777
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Anger and preparation to war. Feminany and the countries wishing for peace should give us a good reason, before our troops get off DEFCON1.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): ten
Special considerations: We're religious. I hope that can be accomodated, by having kosher food, and only a few 'family' tv channels. The bodyguards are also armed with handguns
Note: We will not participate in, and condemn any mass rape, as that is against G-d laws.
Gnomedude
08-09-2004, 20:22
Name of Envoy: Garl Shortstock
Rank of Envoy: Assistant to the Head of the Gnomedude State Department
Country of Origin: Gnomedude
Country of origins relation to Feminany: None, we just dont belive this war should happen
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): None. (Hes short and ugly. Nobody will bother him)
Special considerations: We are all short. Lower everything down a notch.
Transpontia
08-09-2004, 20:42
The Republic of Transpontia would like to send Gordon Franks, its Secretary of the Exterior, to act as a mediator. If this is unacceptable, we wish to attend as a neutral observer.
Regards.
Name of Envoy: Tatiana Severnaya Kempenski
Rank of Envoy: Sub-Minister of Diplomacy
Country of Origin: Hattia
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Neutral/Leaning towards support for Feminany
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): None
Special considerations: She will be armed with a small pistol, if allowed...
My wife, Kaiserine Yuna Mannerheim-Alessandri, will attend this conference. She will be escorted by 12 members of the Nationalist Guard. She was the former Foriegn Minister- and, since she's a woman, I think her presence will help this confrence.
Kaiser Alec Mannerheim
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/Sevaris/kaiseralec.jpg
Name of Envoy:TBA Member Repersentive
Rank of Envoy:Camander
Country of Origin:Holy Empire of Dailey
Country of origins relation to Feminany:Interested in Stoping a war becouse of a internal Afairse/Human Rights Isue
Number of bodyguards:5 Elete Phase Lancers
Special considerations:We do not Repersent a nation We repersent an alliance that wishs to keep the peace
Transpontia
08-09-2004, 20:57
Sorry, we neglected protocol.
Name of Envoy: Gordon Franks
Rank of Envoy: Secretary of the Exterior; RT inner government
Country of Origin: Transpontia
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Neutral, but friendly, and determined to avoid conflict.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 0
Special considerations: Mr Franks wishes to attend in a mediation role. Also, since its seems to be relevant, our President Yolanda Maximme has made it her express wish that Transpontia play a leading role in averting this needless conflict.
Name of Envoy: Tandia Nerus
Rank of Envoy: Minister of State Affairs
Country of Origin: Shandar
Country of Origin's relation to Feminany: Neutral
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): Ten Special Directive agents
Special considerations: none
The Flame Drake Zoltan
08-09-2004, 21:00
Name of Envoy:Zoltan
Rank of Envoy:Zoltan has no rank, however is the supreme ruler of an Empire of over 2 billion citzens
Country of Origin:Unknown but is assumed somewhere within the Empire
Country of origins relation to Feminany:None
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten):none but between 4-9 advisors and advisers will be flown over on confirmation.
Special considerations: Zoltan is a dragon and his exerme size (just over 18 stories at shoulder) makes him difficult to acommate however most open top sadiums can be quickly converted to such a purpose. The FDZ Empire will remburse any actions made to accomdate Zoltan.
Everything you have being told is a lie...
Monetistan
09-09-2004, 10:18
ooc:
Name of Envoy: Denise Hampton
Rank of Envoy: CEO- Liaison
Country of Origin: Monetistan [Technically, not a country, but a mixture of corporations, think Snow Crash or Jennifer Government. And yes, technically, they are representing a group of corporations, not the entire nation. A rather large group, though.]
Country of origins relation to Feminany: None whatsoever, Economic ties wished. Well, ok, actually,
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): One, Miyamoto Sakura
Special considerations: Minor level of cybernetic enhancements. No, I have no intention of running wild on the conference, and yes, they can be killed by conventional means. But as a hyperurbanised, hypercapitalist society (My nations have the tendency of being like that <.<), I just have to have 'em.
Will do an IC post as soon as/ if I'm cleared
Name of Envoy:Eric Schutz
Rank of Envoy:Commander (and Title, Ambassadore)
Country of Origin:Constitutional Republic of Tekania
Country of origins relation to Feminany:Arbitrational/Neutral
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten):2 (most likely Stellar Marines)
Special considerations:Future Tech, all we need is space to land a small shuttle, airspace permission for the shuttle's flight, and possible permission for the Envoy's ship to be allowed in orbit (if such is required under your laws)
Foolish Pesants
09-09-2004, 14:24
Name of Envoy: Dik Dik van Dik
Rank of Envoy: Minister of Offence
Country of Origin: Foolish Pesants
Relation to Feminany: Neutral
Number of bodyguards: Not required
Considerations: The FP ambassador has a, unique apperance. Aside from that issue he is just the same as any other FP council member in terms of phisiology and ability.
McLeod03
09-09-2004, 14:32
Name of Envoy: Prince Michael Andrew McLeod
Rank of Envoy: Royal Prince, heir to the throne of McLeod03
Country of Origin: Righteous Monarchy of McLeod03
Country of origin's relationship with Feminany: Firm supporter of Feminany's right to pass own laws. Disagrees with law, but will fight to protect it.
Number of bodyguards: One, plus one aide.
Special Considerations: Following an unfortunate incident at the previous conference, the Prince has a burning hatred for anyone from Decisive Action. Placing him near any delegates from DA could result in 'unfortunate' consequences.
Feminany
09-09-2004, 14:44
All applications have been approved. Thank you for your time (there are still plenty of spaces!)
imported_Illior
09-09-2004, 14:44
Name of Envoy: Andrew Kars
Rank of Envoy: Son of a Captain of first Illiorian Fleet
Country of Origin: Illior
Country of origin's relationship with Feminany: None at the moment, but we'd like to open up ties
Number of bodyguards: 2, both from the Hell jumpers(no, not from HALO, just my equivalent of a marine but trained like SOF)
Special Considerations: as far as I'm conrned, none
Moleland
09-09-2004, 14:53
I wish to sign up as an observer, is this allowed and possible?
Danarkadia
09-09-2004, 15:13
Name of Envoy: Magdalena Misrii
Rank of Envoy: Chief Foreign Affairs Officer, Federation of Foreign Affairs
Country of Origin: The Anarchic Unity of Danarkadia
Country of origins relation to Feminany: No previous diplomatic relations. Danarkadia wishes to be considered as a potential sponsor state for any refugees as well as act as a neutral factor in the conference.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 2 unnarmed attaches
Special considerations: None, though the Danarkadian diet is predominantly vegetarian, with some fish, and they will fall ill if they eat meat.
Slaytanicca
09-09-2004, 15:17
Name of Envoy: Kathy "Pusmarrow" Woodbyn
Rank of Envoy: Deputy Foreign Minister
Country of Origin: Slaytanicca
Relation to Feminany: Amused yet Concerned Observer
Number of bodyguards: Ten to escort her to door.
Considerations: Frequent cigarette breaks
Hiroshiko
09-09-2004, 15:42
Name of Envoy: Nicholas Wolfwood
Rank of Envoy: Prime Minister of Nation
Country of Origin: Hiroshiko
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Neutral, an observer. Yet is concerned with the well being of Feminany people.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 4 armed if need be
Special considerations: A break every so often
The Most Glorious Hack
09-09-2004, 15:57
Just to observe the proceedings...
Name: Elisa Day
Rank: Director of Foreign Affairs, Speaker for the President
Country of Origin: The Semi-Autonomous Technocratic Oligarchy of The Most Glorious Hack
Relation to Feminany: None; As a member of the NDA, the Hack fully supports internal sovereignty
Number of Bodyguards: None
Special Considerations: None
Feminany
09-09-2004, 16:02
Thank you all. I'll see if it runs for another couple of pages and then start the conference.
Name of Envoy: Zoltan
Rank of Envoy: Zoltan has no rank, however is the supreme ruler of an Empire of over 2 billion citzens
Country of Origin: Unknown but is assumed somewhere within the Empire
Country of origins relation to Feminany: None
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): none but between 4-9 advisors and advisers will be flown over on confirmation.
Special considerations: Zoltan is a dragon and his exerme size (just over 18 stories at shoulder) makes him difficult to acommate however most open top sadiums can be quickly converted to such a purpose. The FDZ Empire will remburse any actions made to accomdate Zoltan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Iuthia/Characters/Zoltan.jpg
OOC:The above is Zoltan, I should know it's my friends nation and I help with RP sometimes... so you may want to take note that this huge thing wants to come. I've asked and he said he would only defend himself.
As it stands you have accepted him, which is fair enough but you may want to make sure just in case. He also kindly asked to repay any costs to make alterations for his stay... his diplomats will do most the talking but he's coming in person too.
Demonic Gophers
09-09-2004, 17:10
Name of Envoy: Tor Varin
Rank of Envoy: High Diplomat (second in command of the Communications and Diplomacy department)
Country of Origin: The Tunnels/The Underground Army of Demonic Gophers
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Willing to aid in defence.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): None needed; Tor generally carries dart guns, and a swift-acting sleeping potion.
Special considerations: Tor can take on a semi-human form, but he is still a gopher; we would appreciate it if a small patch of garden could be made available for a tunnel.
Name of Envoy: Roberto Rodriguez
Rank of Envoy: President to The Democratic States of Kelman
Country of Origin: Kelman
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Willing to aid defense and humanitarian efforts
Number of bodyguards: Ten Oniwabanshu Ninjas (each with an AK-47, Katana, throwing stars, Wakizashi, and a kodachi)
Special considerations: None
Itinerate Tree Dweller
09-09-2004, 20:05
Name of Envoy: Daniel Reck
Rank of Envoy: Lt General
Country of Origin: Hades Cluster
Country of origins relation to Feminany: none
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 10 ITDGF
Special considerations: Irritable. Will need filtered water and cigarettes.
Name of Envoy: James Richter
Rank of Envoy: Colonel
Country of Origin: ITD
Country of origins relation to Feminany: none
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 10 ITDGF
Special considerations: Will take frequent breaks to take migraine medication.
Itinerate Tree Dweller
09-09-2004, 20:35
The LOEL hopes to maintain good relations with the nation of Feminany. We hope to attend this conference with the hope of resolving this situation as quick and fair as possible.
Greetings, Feminary.
The Republic of Sharina will send a delegate to these talks in your capital.
We also are extending invitations to a Friendship Conference for your nation and other nations who are interested in friendship or alliance with Feminary.
Here is the rudimentary information regarding our peace delegates.
Name of Envoy: Sabrina Meino
Rank of Envoy: Director of International Affairs
Country of Origin: The Republic of Sharina
Purpose of Visit: We wish to become a friend of Feminary, and aid Feminary
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 4
Special considerations: None.
Live well,
President Rand Veristek
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 20:51
Name of Envoy: Luis Ricardo Alarcon
Rank of Envoy:Viceroy ( and the emperors father, so watch it!)
Country of Origin: Crackpie
Country of origins relation to Feminany:Crackpie declared itself hostile to feminany due to the latter's attempts at gross violations of human rights
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 7
Special considerations: none.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 20:54
Well, do you accept the proposal made by the Peace Conference in Berlin?
I. Feminany must stop the exportation of males.
II. Feminany must stop any discrimation in the workplace, school, or law against males.
III. Feminany must issue a statement that states that females are just as important as males.
IV. Feminany must allow International Inspectors for one year.
V Feminany must not in any way prevent a certain gender children from being born.
VI. Feminany must not have to pay any fines.
VII. The collateral damages that were imposed upon Feminany during the invasion will not be compensated by the invaders.
Feminaria
09-09-2004, 20:55
Name of Envoy: Veronica Ross
Rank of Envoy: Major / Head of International Affairs
Country of Origin: Feminaria
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Hopeful future ally
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 4 (plus Lt. Steele, below)
Special considerations: One-eyed due to combat injury. Really hates poodles. No, the combat injury was not caused by a poodle, so stop laughing. ;)
Name of Envoy: Katrina Steele
Rank of Envoy: Liutenant / Press Secretary
Country of Origin: Feminaria
Country of origins relation to Feminany: See above
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): None
Special considerations: Wants to know if marijuana is legal in Feminany; if so, she'd like to bring a small amount for 'personal recreational use'. Would also like to bring her boyfriend Steven.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 20:57
Name of Envoy: Veronica Ross
Rank of Envoy: Major / Head of International Affairs
Country of Origin: Feminaria
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Hopeful future ally
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 4 (plus Lt. Steele, below)
Special considerations: One-eyed due to combat injury. Really hates poodles. No, the combat injury was not caused by a poodle, so stop laughing. ;)
Name of Envoy: Katrina Steele
Rank of Envoy: Liutenant / Press Secretary
Country of Origin: Feminaria
Country of origins relation to Feminany: See above
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): None
Special considerations: Wants to know if marijuana is legal in Feminany; if so, she'd like to bring a small amount for 'personal recreational use'. Would also like to bring her boyfriend Steven.
Its useless, we are just not being taken seriously.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:00
Why are people signing up for a conference that doesn't exist anymore? All of Feminany cities are shattered by exploded bombs! The conference was moved to Berlin, and is already being held. It started yesterday.
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:03
Why are people signing up for a conference that doesn't exist anymore? All of Feminany cities are shattered by exploded bombs! The conference was moved to Berlin, and is already being held. It started yesterday.
All invasions are IGNORED for godmodding, thank you for your time.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:04
All invasions are IGNORED for godmodding, thank you for your time.
last time I was at the conference, no one ad invaded, but extensive preparations had been made. alas, the sumit collapsed without me.
GODMODing wank. Wankity Wank Wank Wank.
IGNORED
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:07
last time I was at the conference, no one ad invaded, but extensive preparations had been made. alas, the sumit collapsed without me.
Feminaria clearly stated that if you desired war with her, you could contact her to make a closed RP. This was implemented by her to stem the masive tide of n00bs(big and small) that where having their little ego's crushed by her internal policies.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:09
Feminaria clearly stated that if you desired war with her, you could contact her to make a closed RP. This was implemented by her to stem the masive tide of n00bs(big and small) that where having their little ego's crushed by her internal policies.
hold up a sec, man. Are you defending her internal policies? you better not be defending her goddamn internal policies.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:12
IGNORED
Since when is posting that another NationStates country bombed another country with COVENTIONAL bombers ignored? And if bombing a country can be ignored, why am I getting yelled at instead of the country that did it?
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:14
hold up a sec, man. Are you defending her internal policies? you better not be defending her goddamn internal policies.
I've taken each and every last refugee of her hands(over 500.000 men and 100.000 women). Furthermore a military base has been established to secure Feminaria soveriegn soil, any invasion or threat will be dealt with in the harshest way possible.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:18
I've taken each and every last refugee of her hands(over 500.000 men and 100.000 women). Furthermore a military base has been established to secure Feminaria soveriegn soil, any invasion or threat will be dealt with in the harshest way possible.
uhuh. well, excuse me, but at the summit, we already passed a proposition, and our threat stands until every demand in it is met.
Ps, our threat, if you must know, is a biochemical stroioke on civillian targets.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:20
His threat is not endorsed by the conference.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:21
His threat is not endorsed by the conference.
Damn right its not! So what?
Meh, I guess I assumed you nation was the one that bombed her... but in anycase I ignore (and so does feminany if you read her posts) any RP which doesn't allow defence. Her nation isn't bombed because the thread people bombed her in was locked by a mod because the nations were too dumb to follow RP etiquette.
Now this is the most legitimate attempt at a peace thread run by the player who has only maybe a hour a day to post. She's running it and she is the one who says if her nation is bombed or not. Perhaps I was hasty, but I'm tired of people assuming she's bombed because some idiot on another thread can't RP war properly.
Conventional bombers or not, war is a turn based RP. Attacker posts his forces moving towards nation, defend RPs the start of her defence (luanching fighters and what not), attack RPs the approach, defender RPs the defence, attacker bombs, defender posts damages.
Never, and I mean never can any other player post damages for another nation unless they were given permission to do so. Feminany RP's her damage, her people and her nation. Nobody else.
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:31
You will not be around for much longer, I can assure you we are tracking down each and every one of your so called "cooperations". Oh and do note that AMF has pledged to support Feminaria so your livespan will be even further shortened and your threat reduced to ash with several large missle defence systems being capable of shooting down any missles that enters Feminaria airspace.
Feminaria
09-09-2004, 21:32
Feminaria clearly stated that if you desired war with her, you could contact her to make a closed RP. This was implemented by her to stem the masive tide of n00bs(big and small) that where having their little ego's crushed by her internal policies.
I stated no such thing, clearly or otherwise. That was FEMINANY. Guys, please? Try to keep track of the difference? I'd rather not be invaded because people get the name of the country confused with that of a similar one. It's legal to be male over here! (But there will soon be a law making it illegal to be a Pokemon - does that count as ethnic cleansing or just pest control?)
Again: there is no invasion of FeminaRIA. There are no refugees from here, etc. That's FeminaNY you're thinking of. Be mindful of the difference. ;)
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:35
I stated no such thing, clearly or otherwise. That was FEMINANY. Guys, please? Try to keep track of the difference? I'd rather not be invaded because people get the name of the country confused with that of a similar one. It's legal to be male over here! (But there will soon be a law making it illegal to be a Pokemon - does that count as ethnic cleansing or just pest control?)
Again: there is no invasion of FeminaRIA. There are no refugees from here, etc. That's FeminaNY you're thinking of. Be mindful of the difference. ;)
OoC: I got her name on COPY/PASTE so when I hit ctrl + C I copy that name, unfortunatly I also needed to send a TG to you(Feminaria) so I copy pasted that and when making this post did not check for errors(or atleast not these kind of errors, its LATE) I apolagize, please smack me.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:35
You will not be around for much longer, I can assure you we are tracking down each and every one of your so called "cooperations". Oh and do note that AMF has pledged to support Feminaria so your livespan will be even further shortened and your threat reduced to ash with several large missle defence systems being capable of shooting down any missles that enters Feminaria airspace.
ok, in case one of the 11,000 nations of nationstates didnt hear me, here it goes, one more time
It is a THREAT of a strike on civillian targets. A strike wich we are not willing to execute but only to THREATEN to execute. We hope to create a cold war-type situation so that our demands can be met without offensive action.
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:37
Not going to work CRACKPIE, we are fully aware of your international policies and tactics.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:38
CRACKPIE: You made it sound like it was endorsed by the conference. That's the only reason I posted that.
Ithuia: I have read the pinnined "Godmodding" topic when I joined NationStates, so I understand the damage part. But can threats from other countries truely be ignored because the defending country does not feel like being attacked? I guess that's true then. And we still have embassys in each others countries, right? And can you confirm that the Conference that I hosted on Feminany is at least an offical conference of international feelings on Feminany?
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:39
Not going to work CRACKPIE, we are fully aware of your international policies and tactics.
how are you fully aware of them??
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:42
Since you posted several times that you where not prepared to execute your threats since you hope to get what you want by just the threat.
But should you be so foolish as to try anything here is a statement from a Dumpsterdanian hobo:
WE WETEN WAAR JE HUIS WOONT!
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:42
have you ever suffered or seen an attack on my part?? oh, wait, you havent, because we havent attacked anyone, despite the fact that we have made 37 identical threats all around the world, yet no military action has ever been taken by crackpie. ever.
Dumpsterdam
09-09-2004, 21:44
have you ever suffered or seen an attack on my part?? oh, wait, you havent, because we havent attacked anyone, despite the fact that we have made 37 identical threats all around the world, yet no military action has ever been taken by crackpie. ever.
Threats are enough, but could we BOTH please stop hijacking the damned thread?
But can threats from other countries truely be ignored because the defending country does not feel like being attacked? I guess that's true then. And we still have embassys in each others countries, right? And can you confirm that the Conference that I hosted on Feminany is at least an offical conference of international feelings on Feminany?
You seem to have missed the fact that the first war was pretty much a complete mess and was locked by Glorious Hack because you guys can't run a war properly.
She has given you concidition on how to start a war with her and you are all ignoring them. Thats your problem. You can start a war with her, but you have to do it properly because at the moment you guys are a mess.
I mean hell, the reason so many respectable nations are now arguing for Feminany is because of the storm of shitty RP being forced on her which she can't deal with because she isn't online 24 hours a day to reply to 300 shit posts.
She has given you guys the conditions to run a serious war against her, follow them or be ignored.
CRACKPIE
09-09-2004, 21:45
You seem to have missed the fact that the first war was pretty much a complete mess and was locked by Glorious Hack because you guys can't run a war properly.
She has given you concidition on how to start a war with her and you are all ignoring them. Thats your problem. You can start a war with her, but you have to do it properly because at the moment you guys are a mess.
I mean hell, the reason so many respectable nations are now arguing for Feminany is because of the storm of shitty RP being forced on her which she can't deal with because she isn't online 24 hours a day to reply to 300 shit posts.
She has given you guys the conditions to run a serious war against her, follow them or be ignored.
I never got these conditions? wpould someone please give me these conditions she speaks of??
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:49
You seem to have missed the fact that the first war was pretty much a complete mess and was locked by Glorious Hack because you guys can't run a war properly.
She has given you concidition on how to start a war with her and you are all ignoring them. Thats your problem. You can start a war with her, but you have to do it properly because at the moment you guys are a mess.
I mean hell, the reason so many respectable nations are now arguing for Feminany is because of the storm of shitty RP being forced on her which she can't deal with because she isn't online 24 hours a day to reply to 300 shit posts.
She has given you guys the conditions to run a serious war against her, follow them or be ignored.
What do you mean by "you guys?" Since when do I support attack on Feminany? I condem attacks on Feminany. That's why I was the one who orginally proposed a peace conference.
Just to let you know I am ignoring this particular invasion. I have said it before and I will say it again, if anyone wants to declare war please TG me and we will sort out a closed RP. Otherwise, your time and effort will go to waste. Thank you.
Here is it, though given that she has only had 55 posts in the middle of probably around 600 posts it wasn't easy to find.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 21:58
Didnt we already do this in another thread?
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 21:59
If you wish to RP war, please TG me.
There it is.
Borman Empire: Unless the "Offically Conference on Feminany" is attended by Feminany, the conference's propose was to propose a Peace Proposal.
What do you mean by "you guys?" Since when do I support attack on Feminany? I condem attacks on Feminany. That's why I was the one who orginally proposed a peace conference.
Hm... seems like I owe you an apology. However I will admit my mistake, you weren't invovled in the war and I've checked the make shift list I have... I guess that I'm getting a little anoyed but it doesn't excuse my insults. As such I apologise.
This doesn't change my opinion of the wars against Feminany; but I will admit that your nation isn't a part of it and probably means well. I just got a little blind with all the nations involved.
Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 22:04
No problem Iuthia, I just wanted to make sure it corrected because when I apply to join NATO, I don't want them to think I'm bombing helpless nations! :)
Heh, I don't know what to think of NATO, I feel I get on well enough with Automagfreek and I was interested in their alliance (I was on the accepted list) however because my nation is seaking an alliance we more peaceful nations in NS I decided against it.
I would have to agree with Automagfreek though, NATO isn't really much like the orginal concept they wanted it to be. [/sidetrack]
OOC:
Iuthia, you are welcome to join my Friendship Conference if you wish. It is intended to help Feminary gain friends and hopefully help other nations understand her culture and people.
I'm going to be at the official conference when she gets around to it, Iuthia's interests are to observe the proceeding and see what we think of the nations attending... we suspect we will not be disapointed and will have much to add to our understanding from the other nations, we will learn if they are capable of good diplomacy. The majority of nations against Feminany are automatically black listed for being unable to respect their nations right to soveriegn rule...
We hate bullies.
I'm going to be at the official conference when she gets around to it, Iuthia's interests are to observe the proceeding and see what we think of the nations attending... we suspect we will not be disapointed and will have much to add to our understanding from the other nations, we will learn if they are capable of good diplomacy. The majority of nations against Feminany are automatically black listed for being unable to respect their nations right to soveriegn rule...
We hate bullies.
OOC:
There's a difference.
This conference is intended to stop the warfare and all the bullshit invasions. Also, it is intended to offer compromises regarding men in her nation.
My conference is intended to discuss friendship, trade, and embassy exchanges with Feminary. It is also intended to help Feminary gain friends and help other nations learn more about her people and culture.
Hiroshiko
09-09-2004, 22:18
Sharina,
Hiroshiko wishes to join the Friendship conference in order to find new alliances. So, please add me in.
My conference is intended to discuss friendship, trade, and embassy exchanges with Feminary. It is also intended to help Feminary gain friends and help other nations learn more about her people and culture.
I don't want to split my RP too much and my diplomat can only be in so many places at once. Plus the verdit isn't in on Feminany just yet... OOC I like her but IC I am cautious. I need to have my lesbian diplomat, Kayla Harmone (she has been a long running character of mine along with a fair few other, but most of them aren't gay...) to judge nations at the conference. Kayla Harmone in the last thread I was in. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6898286&postcount=85)
We have our own trade proceedures, we don't ask for it, people ask us.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 22:30
Name of Envoy:Jak Kolinro
Rank of Envoy:Foriegn delagate
Country of Origin:Borman
Country of origins relation to Feminany:Enemy, attemptig peace and neutrality
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten):10
Special considerations: none
Has the conference already come up with terms?
I don't want to split my RP too much and my diplomat can only be in so many places at once. Plus the verdit isn't in on Feminany just yet... OOC I like her but IC I am cautious. I need to have my lesbian diplomat, Kayla Harmone (she has been a long running character of mine along with a fair few other, but most of them aren't gay...) to judge nations at the conference. Kayla Harmone in the last thread I was in. (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6898286&postcount=85)
We have our own trade proceedures, we don't ask for it, people ask us.
Understandable.
I'd like to suggest this solution:
If this conference fails, doesn't take off, or is abandoned, then your lesbian diplomat can travel to my conference and work from there.
OR
If this conference is to proceed and such, then your diplomat can come to my conference after this conference is finished (if it does get underway).
Sound fair?
Kinda Sensible people
09-09-2004, 23:03
Name of Envoy: Kenneth Willms
Rank of Envoy: Minister of foreign relations
Country of Origin:The democratic state of kinda sensible people
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Concern for the effects of war upon the citizens of Feminany due to threats attacks by outside powers.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): none
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:07
"Well, is there a current resolution on the board?"
If this conference is to proceed and such, then your diplomat can come to my conference after this conference is finished (if it does get underway). Sound fair?
Perhaps... but to be honest if this thread fails then I won't really have much interested in the other thread in anycase and if this comences then I will probably resolve all my issues in this thread and I wouldn't need to be in the other thread.
While I do post alot, my involvement depends on my mood, I'm pretty lazy about some things so I don't know... it's it's not too much bother maybe.
"Well, is there a current resolution on the board?"
She hasn't accepted people since her last post on page 3 (I think) so we don't even know if you are going to be allowed into her nation.
However, given that your nation is one of the few which advocated rape (or maybe slavery, one of the two) I would suggest to her that she ignores your application.
The empire would like to take this time to stake it's claim to any and all princesses and sisters of the queen as we are sending in the 1st and 2nd army to assist in the conflict
Original Post (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6973349&postcount=13)
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:16
Hm... seems like I owe you an apology. However I will admit my mistake, you weren't invovled in the war and I've checked the make shift list I have... I guess that I'm getting a little anoyed but it doesn't excuse my insults. As such I apologise.
This doesn't change my opinion of the wars against Feminany; but I will admit that your nation isn't a part of it and probably means well. I just got a little blind with all the nations involved.
Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.
Just so everyone knows. I only sent troops to feminany, never actually attacking. I opposed the attacking of civilians and I helped to tweak the proposal for feminany last night during the summit hosted by sixth reich. I just did not appreciate being listed among the nations that did attack feminany in one of your previous posts Iuthia.
Kinda Sensible people
09-09-2004, 23:18
I would like to make it clear that the DS of KSP will support the resolution reached at last nights chaotic attempt at a confrence. While I personally have problems with resolution V we beleive that it is the most viable solution to this problem.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:19
She hasn't accepted people since her last post on page 3 (I think) so we don't even know if you are going to be allowed into her nation.
However, given that your nation is one of the few which advocated rape (or maybe slavery, one of the two) I would suggest to her that she ignores your application.
Original Post (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6973349&postcount=13)
Im part of LOEL and we wanted to try them. I knew they werent going to let generic get her and so i claimed the rest to be tried as well. I am in extreme disaproval of her law. And even if i did how come Crackpie who threatened bio-attack got let into her country.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:19
I would like to make it clear that the DS of KSP will support the resolution reached at last nights chaotic attempt at a confrence.
We also support the resolution
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:21
Envoy: Sir Robin
Rank: Assistant Minister of State
Country of origin: The Dominion of Sir Peter the sage
Country's Relations to Feminany: Strongly condemns Feminany's bigoted and evil law.
Number of bodyguards: 10
Special considerations: Not required, but it would be appreciated if there was some decent beer at the conference.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:22
Also if i were going to rape i wouldnt rape a single person in her country as they might have been men. And enslaving pampered princesses and such would ne of no use since they wouldnt quite understnqad and be bad at work.
I just did not appreciate being listed among the nations that did attack feminany in one of your previous posts Iuthia.
Tough luck. You claimed to be joining in with the war because "Your allies went to war" and the ally you mentioned was Roach-Busters, a nation which threated my ally during that stupid mess. Whats more, it seems Roach-Busters and perhaps yourself, but I can't be sure, are allied to Borman Empire who seems to want to take all the princesses from Feminany's nation for slavery or something.
Whether you like it or not, you are on Iuthia's black list, which is the list which is noted. I'm not going to change and most nations don't really seem to give a damn their on it or not... it's more of a list of nations for me so I know who not to trust and when my allies ask for my opinion on them I can honestly say why (often reasons are included in my own list, not the published one).
One of the nations someone defended earlier claiming to be a helper of Feminany has now been revised and it seems I didn't get anyone wrong on that list so far, so Debian-Linux will remain on it. Source (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6973322&postcount=9)
The Great Sixth Reich
09-09-2004, 23:22
Next time I host a conference, I'll have METAL DETECTORS!!! (Joke at last nights conference)
Also if i were going to rape i wouldnt rape a single person in her country as they might have been men. And enslaving pampered princesses and such would ne of no use since they wouldnt quite understnqad and be bad at work.
But you yourself commented that:
"The empire would like to take this time to stake it's claim to any and all princesses and sisters of the queen as we are sending in the 1st and 2nd army to assist in the conflict"
Concidering the post for the crime tribunal was not up at the time, plus your hostile attitude throughout it would seem you were suggesting something very much immoral.
Decisive Action
09-09-2004, 23:27
But you yourself commented that:
"The empire would like to take this time to stake it's claim to any and all princesses and sisters of the queen as we are sending in the 1st and 2nd army to assist in the conflict"
Concidering the post for the crime tribunal was not up at the time, plus your hostile attitude throughout it would seem you were suggesting something very much immoral.
Ooc- hey, if the LOEL could get away with it, our top party elite would be ravaging the queen, her sisters, daughters, etc (provided they all are of age, we may be mean, we're not perverts though) remember this is ooc, you can't hold it against the LOEL IC.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:27
Tough luck. You claimed to be joining in with the war because "Your allies went to war" and the ally you mentioned was Roach-Busters, a nation which threated my ally during that stupid mess. Whats more, it seems Roach-Busters and perhaps yourself, but I can't be sure, are allied to Borman Empire who seems to want to take all the princesses from Feminany's nation for slavery or something.
Whether you like it or not, you are on Iuthia's black list, which is the list which is noted. I'm not going to change and most nations don't really seem to give a damn their on it or not... it's more of a list of nations for me so I know who not to trust and when my allies ask for my opinion on them I can honestly say why (often reasons are included in my own list, not the published one).
One of the nations someone defended earlier claiming to be a helper of Feminany has now been revised and it seems I didn't get anyone wrong on that list so far, so Debian-Linux will remain on it. Source (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6973322&postcount=9)
I did not ally with Borman Empire, and I consider it an insult. I did send some troops for possible protection of my ally RB. That was my first rping so I thought the war was pretty much over by then anyway. But when I heard of the threats of atrocities I did promise to defend feminany's civilians if need be. After this, I plan to more carefully consider who I make an alliance with.
O, and I don't care what you think of me, I just don't like being subject to slander or libel. You can ask sixth reich that during the summit last night I was one of the voices calling for a peaceful resolution.
Slander or Libel.
OOC: There reletively IC comments so it doesn't really matter, we will say as we wish. I didn't actually say you were allied to them, but I thought you may be allied to them because your ally, Roach-Buster is allied to them.
As for holding it against the LOEL in a in character manner? Well given that your LOEL has already damaged relations with Iuthia by trying to push international laws on them when international laws don't exist. :p
Whats more, IC I can afford to hold it against Borman Empire because they, in our opinion, showed their true colors in that mess. It's IC opinion and my nation is welcome to it.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:33
The summit went relatively well...until this one moron (I forget his name) all of a sudden started taking hostages.
Slaytanicca
09-09-2004, 23:34
However, given that your nation is one of the few which advocated rape (or maybe slavery, one of the two) I would suggest to her that she ignores your application.
Slaytanicca begs you to reconsider. Such a measure would cause any resolution to be unrepresentative. If any hope is to be had of stopping further atrocities, the resolution must be recognised by those who wish to commit them.
The summit went relatively well...until this one moron (I forget his name) all of a sudden started taking hostages.
The odd thing I noticed about that summit was that Feminany wasn't invovled in it... at all.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:38
OOC: ? Well given that your LOEL
.
Slight correction, I am not a member of LOEL. And besides, a government that tramples on the rights of its people should not be considered a legitamite government, and I feel it is the responsibility of the international community to guarentee basic human rights for all. War is a last resort though, I can agree on that.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:38
The odd thing I noticed about that summit was that Feminany wasn't invovled in it... at all.
We were simply working on a proposal to later give to feminany. Her presence was not required.
"Slight correction, I am not a member of LOEL."
I wasn't refering to you. Sorry if you misunderstood.
However, the thing is that you lot could be arguing for over 300 pages (which I've read some of and so far it doesn't look good at all) and end up giving her something which still going against her nations soveriegnity.
Now that she has some fairly... interesting backing to boot, she could very well turn it down and have her new friends defend her from those who would force their law on her.
Finally, if we are going to continue this, feel free to post once more or start a new thread... we have really side tracked this thread. It's ment to be for signups.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:43
"Slight correction, I am not a member of LOEL."
I wasn't refering to you. Sorry if you misunderstood.
However, the thing is that you lot could be arguing for over 300 pages (which I've read some of and so far it doesn't look good at all) and end up giving her something which still going against her nations soveriegnity.
Now that she has some fairly... interesting backing to boot, she could very well turn it down and have her new friends defend her from those who would force their law on her.
Thats like saying the US taking out the Taliban and forced women's rights on it was a bad thing.
Thats like saying the US violated Afghanistan's soveirgnty and forced women's rights on it.
*Cough* The United States is a Superpower however, and they ignore national soveriegnity when it suits them and they can get away with it...
In this case however the only Superpower on NS is probably someone like Melkor. Concidering the backing Feminany has, I think the situations don't compare. Whars more, NS is filled with people commiting attrocities... hell, AMF has done a few in his time and he's loved by some of you people... his NATO alliance is the latest fad.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:47
"[
Finally, if we are going to continue this, feel free to post once more or start a new thread... we have really side tracked this thread. It's ment to be for signups.
Your right there, I'll get back on track.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:48
OOC: Iuthia is on my black list
Sir Peter the sage is on my 'i dont car if you get rampaged becuase of your insults to me' list
IC: We seeked to punish her for her crimes, not by rape or slavery. Since after i claimed her relatives(ill say this now for short) LOEL claimed and tried to take the gueen i included them. I was going to try them in my courts but since LOEL wants the queen why not the relatives who most likely had a hand in it. Sir peter the sage, we do not like your comments and you have most likly severed any and all chances of relations with Borman empire.
OOC2:Metal detectors, danm right. You'll need one at every door, i think every single person got in with one weapon or another.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:52
OOC: Iuthia is on my black list
Sir Peter the sage is on my 'i dont car if you get rampaged becuase of your insults to me' list
IC: We seeked to punish her for her crimes, not by rape or slavery. Since after i claimed her relatives(ill say this now for short) LOEL claimed and tried to take the gueen i included them. I was going to try them in my courts but since LOEL wants the queen why not the relatives who most likely had a hand in it. Sir peter the sage, we do not like your comments and you have most likly severed any and all chances of relations with Borman empire.
OOC2:Metal detectors, danm right. You'll need one at every door, i think every single person got in with one weapon or another.
If thats the case, that you didn't plan rape or slavery, I apologize. Who would wannt to be associated with a nation if they thought at the time they were committing mass rape though?
OOC: Iuthia is on my black list
OOC: w00t! Can Sir Peter the sage come too?
This will help me enforce my trade embargo because the business owners of Iuthia cannot possibily trade with you if you are banning them too.
Whats more, I'm sure tons of nations will take not of your blacklist and make me hated by all, it's a shame I've got reasonable connections with a large number of nations who don't "claim" women from another nation for their own sick uses.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:53
*Cough* The United States is a Superpower however, and they ignore national soveriegnity when it suits them and they can get away with it...
OOC: Well yeah, becuase they did basically what started this all. They invaded to help peoples whose rights were being stomped all over. We did what was right(in both cases), and in NS i wouldve prefered to let her nation die off to lack of reproduction, but my ally went to war and i help him wherever i can, as i have said.
IC: Due to the fact that we were never really accepted, ive seen only 1 or 2 people here who shouldnt be destroyed, And Nations are treating Borman as the nazis or something our diplomat will leave. All current and possible relations with Iuthia and Sir Peter the sage have been severed and both are on my black list.
Borman Empire
09-09-2004, 23:56
If thats the case, that you didn't plan rape or slavery, I apologize. Who would wannt to be associated with a nation if they thought at the time they were committing mass rape though?
All restrictions on Sir Peter The Sage have been taken off. He is no longer on my blacklist and any and all relations have been restored.
Sir Peter the sage
09-09-2004, 23:56
OOC: w00t! Can Sir Peter the sage come too?
This will help me enforce my trade embargo because the business owners of Iuthia cannot possibily trade with you if you are banning them too.
Whats more, I'm sure tons of nations will take not of your blacklist and make me hated by all, it's a shame I've got reasonable connections with a large number of nations who don't "claim" women from another nation for their own sick uses.
OOC: I would appreciate it if you would take me off you blacklist Iuthia. I don't feel we're a warmongering nation since we did not actually attack feminany and we did call for peace during the summit and will do so here. I just happen to be a bit insecure when it comes to others opinions of me. lol.
Borman Empire: We weren't aware that your nation had relations with Iuthia. Especially with your complete lack of respect for national soviegnity and attempts to enforce your laws on Feminany by killing their civilians in a bloody war.
It also seems your nation feels that others should be "Destroyed" as you seem to state, possibly notioning that their civilians should suffer too for their governments actions.
You are truelly a disgusting nation and we are glad you will never attempt to have "relations" with us.
Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
OOC: Sir, it's a IC list and it's not the full list (which is pretty long) we may remove you in the future, but for the time being we will have to wait for the conference to see what you are really like.
The Great Sixth Reich
10-09-2004, 00:01
OOC2:Metal detectors, danm right. You'll need one at every door, i think every single person got in with one weapon or another.
I have to agree with that! :)
It was rather funny, but I never EVER picture a delegate shooting another delegate! I mean it was a PEACE CONFERENCE!!! :)
Kinda Sensible people
10-09-2004, 00:03
OOC - Kenneth didnt have a weapon... course after he was shot twice he had enough metal in him to set off a metal detector.
I'm surprised it never occured to anyone that airports have metal detectors and it shouldn't be too hard to basically say that smuggling weapons in will not only be frowned upon, but will loose you a seat in the conference itself.
The chances are that feminany knows the basics of her nations security and hell, we have a 18 story dragon coming... security should be interesting.
Slaytanicca
10-09-2004, 00:08
OOC2:Metal detectors, danm right. You'll need one at every door, i think every single person got in with one weapon or another.
OOC: We have a small number of ceramic handguns purchased from an independent manufacturer. My delegate will certainly be taking one with her, especially since reports of the last fiasco reached our country.
EDIT OOC: Anyway it appears Feminany is allowing armed bodyguards into the conference..
Neo-Triton
10-09-2004, 00:08
Name of Envoy: Lorien Two-Tides
Rank of Envoy: Grand Leviathan, Ministry of External Relations
Country of Origin: Neo-Triton
Country of origins relation to Feminany: Neo-Triton believes in and enforces equal rights and treatment for all sexes and freedom of expression regarding an individual's gender identity, thus Neo-Triton condemns the actions of Feminary.
Number of bodyguards (maximum of ten): 3 mercenaries hired from the endangered males of Feminany and 3 hired from the the former citizenry of Hyperspatial Travel.
Special considerations: Lorien is a hermaphrodite deal with it. Lorien also has an entourage of 7 aides, 2 interns, and a non-governmental Neo-Tritonian reporter.
OOC: Specific informations regarding group members are availabe upon request to officials of the host nation specifically involved with the conference.
Kinda Sensible people
10-09-2004, 00:10
From the desk of the president-
What constitutes smuggling in a weapon? I am sending my delegate without gaurds in a gesture of respect, but i do not wish him to be totally unarmed.
The Great Sixth Reich
10-09-2004, 00:10
I'm surprised it never occured to anyone that airports have metal detectors and it shouldn't be too hard to basically say that smuggling weapons in will not only be frowned upon, but will loose you a seat in the conference itself.
The chances are that feminany knows the basics of her nations security and hell, we have a 18 story dragon coming... security should be interesting.
We were talking about my conference, where everyone suddenly started shooting at each other!
Itinerate Tree Dweller
10-09-2004, 00:12
ITD must protest, delegates must be able to defend themselves, if the situation should call for it.
I call for the conference to allow sidearms.
Slaytanicca
10-09-2004, 00:13
We were talking about my conference, where everyone suddenly started shooting at each other!
OOC: I'm imagining this one'll get bombed anyway..
We were talking about my conference, where everyone suddenly started shooting at each other!
If that was in my nation you would probably be warned once then you would have Gauss Rifle rounds fired into anyone still holding a gun and the bodies returned to the nation in question.
It's their job to follow my nations laws when they are in my nation, if we capture them alive they will be sent back to your nation, but shooting people is terrible form for a delegate and will result in instant international incidents with the nations who would dare fire in a peace conference.
To bomb the place you would have to either bomb it using a plane, which is neigh impossible given the nations air defences will be up during the conference; or smuggling a bomb, which is insanely hard to do concidering how hard it is to smuggle bombs though the airport.
Slaytanicca
10-09-2004, 00:25
To bomb the place you would have to either bomb it using a plane, which is neigh impossible given the nations air defences will be up during the conference; or smuggling a bomb, which is insanely hard to do concidering how hard it is to smuggle bombs though the airport.
OOC: Is this IC? No-one in my nation is planning on bombing the place, BTW :D I imagine someone out there is, though. Also it didn't cross my mind the delegates may have to obey standard airport protocol. Of course now I know why :D
Still.. surely a small bomb capable of killing everyone in the room (with the possible exception of the terrordragon) could be smuggled in by a delegate. I'm sure a sponsor, at least, could supply explosives undetectable by airport security.
OOC: Still.. surely a small bomb capable of killing everyone in the room (with the possible exception of the terrordragon) could be smuggled in by a delegate. I'm sure a sponsor, at least, could supply explosives undetectable by airport security.
OOC: However, such a weapon would undoubtably be rather wank so it would be up to Feminany to take it or leave it... it's impossible to be completely undetectable, though you could have almost as good as undetectable.
The problem is, however, that such a bomb would clearly be government funded and in it would be very close to GODMOD to have a bomb which is untracable and so advanced that it can't be sniffed out of detected in any way...
As such if she allows it because it's so advanced it has to be government and it wouldn't be completely untracable, your nation could be linked to killing an Iuthian diplomat and one of my most developed characters...
Ulimately I think that Feminany wouldn't accept such a bomb as it's possible to claim (respectable nations have been doing it for a while) that it would ruin the thread and as such isn't allowed.
It's up to her... personally I feel that blowing up a ton of nations delegates in such a manner would be linked to you eventually and then you will have alot of angry nations on your ass for bombing a peace conference.
I doubt the 18 story dragon would be happy either...
Basically put: If feminany accepts it, you should be prepared to be fingered as the nation who bombed a peace conference... it's only fair.
Slaytanicca
10-09-2004, 00:51
It's up to her... personally I feel that blowing up a ton of nations delegates in such a manner would be linked to you eventually and then you will have alot of angry nations on your ass for bombing a peace conference.
OOC: Sorry mate, I did specify neither my nation nor it's inhabitants were planning such a thing (we personally have no reason to, and like you said it would be rather wank, unpleasant for everyone who lost favourite characters and basically a ruining of good RP opportunities) - Put it down to paranoia, speculation, a poor attempt at satire and an attempt to keep the thread alive :D
Saying that my char is taking a concealed weapon... if caught with it I guess no-one will miss her from the conference :)
The Great Sixth Reich
10-09-2004, 00:57
If that was in my nation you would probably be warned once then you would have Gauss Rifle rounds fired into anyone still holding a gun and the bodies returned to the nation in question.
It's their job to follow my nations laws when they are in my nation, if we capture them alive they will be sent back to your nation, but shooting people is terrible form for a delegate and will result in instant international incidents with the nations who would dare fire in a peace conference.
To bomb the place you would have to either bomb it using a plane, which is neigh impossible given the nations air defences will be up during the conference; or smuggling a bomb, which is insanely hard to do concidering how hard it is to smuggle bombs though the airport.
I was sleeping (In real life) at the time the shooting started at my conference... and it is rather hard to RP while you're sleeping.
Borman Empire
10-09-2004, 02:29
I was sleeping (In real life) at the time the shooting started at my conference... and it is rather hard to RP while you're sleeping.
OOC: That was the coolest conference. Not really, but it was the most unexpected. One guy got murdered, then suddenly there were hostages, 3 nations tired to kidnap the queen of feminy, but grabbed the wrong person, then everyone but Kenneth was aiming a gun.
Kinda Sensible people
10-09-2004, 02:47
OOC: That was the coolest conference. Not really, but it was the most unexpected. One guy got murdered, then suddenly there were hostages, 3 nations tired to kidnap the queen of feminy, but grabbed the wrong person, then everyone but Kenneth was aiming a gun.
... at Kenneth.
Borman Empire
10-09-2004, 02:50
... at Kenneth.
OOC:ROFL
Demonic Gophers
10-09-2004, 03:26
OOC: That was the coolest conference. Not really, but it was the most unexpected. One guy got murdered, then suddenly there were hostages, 3 nations tired to kidnap the queen of feminy, but grabbed the wrong person, then everyone but Kenneth was aiming a gun.
OOC: Not my character! Though I think that's because he wasn't there yet; if I'd been present and logged on, he'd probably have started firing sleeping darts at all the people with guns.
Neo-Triton
10-09-2004, 03:26
In light of the paranoid attitude surrounding the pending conference, we have opted to bring our own items of personal defense as opposed to offense. Kinetic dissipation field projectors and 3 emergency medical personnel with requisite supplies will accompany our delegation. Such changes will be accomodated as we are the enlightened who know that weapons are barbaric and will be resorted to by those of lesser intellect.
Lurien Two-Tides
Grand Leviathan, Ministry of External Relations
The Most Glorious Hack
10-09-2004, 06:48
Still.. surely a small bomb capable of killing everyone in the room (with the possible exception of the terrordragon) could be smuggled in by a delegate. I'm sure a sponsor, at least, could supply explosives undetectable by airport security.
Uh-huh. Sure. That would be... unwise.
Dumpsterdam
10-09-2004, 07:25
COULD WE PLEASE STOP HIJACKING THE THREAD?
I don't want Feminany to wake up and having to read through a bunch of bullshit that has nothing to do with this conference. Thank you, now move along.
What's the status on this?
Danarkadia
13-09-2004, 04:58
The status on this is that a bunch of bullshit has been posted and now we'd like to please get back on track to signing people up so that a conference can get underway.
If you guys want to bitch about what you decided on in some imaginery war or so-called peace conference, do it another thread. If hijacking of this thread continues, the monitors will be made aware of the fact. I think the fact that a lot has been RPed without the permission, consent, or even attendance of the nation in question would be enough for them to shine their bootin' boots.
Otherwise, a little civility would be much appreciated and is much appreciated from those nations that have refrained from such childishness. Anything you have to say can wait till the conference begins in proper.
Feminany
13-09-2004, 13:36
The status is......
ooc: My internet access situation has deteriorated futher. My home connection has died and so this is a college computer where I can only access the forum, not TG's at the momment.
Ic: We are delighted to announce that the following nations have been cleared to attend the conference.
Cleared
Hardheads
Trentaur
The O Faolains
Dumpsterdam
Iuthia
Holy Paradise
Gnomedude
Transpontia
Hattia
Dailey
Shandar
Monetistan
Tekania
Foolish Pesants
McLeod03
imported_Illior
Danarkadia
Slaytanicca
Hiroshiko
The Most Glorious Hack
Zoltan
Demonic Gophers
Kelman
Sharina
Feminaria
The Great Sixth Reich
Accepted but no bodygaurds allowed
Itinerate Tree Dweller
Decisive Action
CRACKPIE
Holy Paradise
Refused
Doom777
And that took me to page three. After that it degenerated into a puddle of obscurity (like most of my RP's, why?) Thank you all who deffended [sic] me. I will of course check for bombs and the like, but if anyone RP's one well I will probably allow it. Also bodygaurds will not attend the conference proper. If I have missed anybody please point it out to me. Otherwise I will start the conference now.
Decisive Action
13-09-2004, 13:41
"We accept that no bodyguards are allowed, but for the safety of the man we are sending, we ask he be allowed to carry his own weaponry. However, we'd like to know why we cannot have bodyguards present. Just because a few bad apples did some less than pleasant deeds at the last conference, doesn't mean that is representative of the entire SRG, or even a significant part of the SRG." Paul Stahlecker, Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Ooc- (This is the guy we're sending)
Tekanian is sending Ambassadore Henry J. Schutz... in escort, Commander Stephanie M. Porter, Commanding Officer TRSS Mercury
and Lieutenant Colonel Elizabeth D. Leitzke, Commandant of Marines, TRSS Mercury
The Tekanian Stellar Fleet's FlagShip,TRSS Orion, under the Command of Fleet Admiral Lawrence M. Warner, Chief of Stellar Operations, Tekanian Stellar Forces, will be escorting our party to the conference, they will arive by Mule Class heavy transport from orbit. The Mule will remain on station with the escort, the Orion will drop back to Lunar Orbit, to maintain a peaceful stance...
Feminany
13-09-2004, 13:49
We are afraid that you have given us little reason to trust you. Paul Stahlecker may be assigned with Feminany bodygaurds. They will more than suffice.
Decisive Action
13-09-2004, 13:50
We are afraid that you have given us little reason to trust you. Paul Stahlecker may be assigned with Feminany bodygaurds. They will more than suffice.
"In that case, I'm a little busy right now and so my brother Thomas Stahlecker will have to go in my place. Just between you and I though, Thomas won't like the idea of having female bodyguards... Well actually, knowing him, he'll more than like it. So I guess everything will work out fine." Paul Stahlecker
Ooc- About Thomas Stahlecker
Governor-General Thomas Stahlecker (25) Governor-General of Ohio. Spent 2 years in the air force. Speaks English, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian, German, Flemish, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Arabic, Latin, Chinese, Japanese, Afrikaans, Serbian, Albanian, Croatian, Hungarian, Finnish, Swahili, and Ukrainian. 6’2, 194lbs. Brown hair, blue eyes. Quite handsome. IQ 162.
Decisive Action
13-09-2004, 13:54
If Donald Stahlecker attempt anything with his bodygaurd he will be castrated with military precision.
Actually, we're sending Thomas Stahlecker, typo there, Donald is still pissed about being sacked from his job in Egypt
Decisive Action
13-09-2004, 13:56
If Donald Stahlecker attempt anything with his bodygaurd he will be castrated with military precision.
"Let's just say in Mississippi they have an old saying that goes something like this... "Not only can the Stahlecker men talk their way out of any situation, and into any other situation they might want to get into, but they can do it in many different languages." So the point being, that everybody eventually succumbs to the Stahlecker charm, it's inevitable." Paul Stahlecker
Feminany
13-09-2004, 13:56
Well actually, knowing him, he'll more than like it. So I guess everything will work out fine." Paul Stahlecker
If Donald Stahlecker attempt anything with his bodygaurd he will be castrated with military precision.
Feminany
13-09-2004, 14:04
ooc: what the frig is going on? That's twice now.
ic: We urge Thomas Stahlecker not to overestimate himself. There are ways to make him less 'cocky'....
"We accept that no body guards are allowed within the conference itself and thank you for this precaution. We also thank you for the ban on weapons for diplomats attending, concidering the anger in the air we are comfortable with your security people assuring our safety while we are in your nation.
Thanks"
Decisive Action
13-09-2004, 14:21
ooc: what the frig is going on? That's twice now.
ic: We urge Thomas Stahlecker not to overestimate himself. There are ways to make him less 'cocky'....
"We Stahleckers don't overestimate ourselves. There are reasons why we're the oldest, most well-known, wealthiest, and largest family in Mississippi. I have eight brothers and nine sisters. Obviously father kept mother very busy. In regards to wealthiest, the Fabuses actually have more wealth, and since 1984 have been more well-known... But Stahlecker is a larger family." Paul Stahlecker
Sir Peter the sage
13-09-2004, 20:10
Name of envoy: Sir Robin
Rank: Assistant Minister of State
Nation: The Dominion of Sir Peter the sage
Nation's relation to feminany: Disapprove of her sexist policies. Made the earlier mistake of sending troops to feminany (although not attacking). Called for peaceful negotiations during previous conferences about feminany's policies. Wishes to improve relations with feminany towards the goal of mutual understanding.