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Nireva Invades Estonia & Latvia [Semiclosed.]

Nireva
05-09-2004, 12:43
Ooc. Send a telegram to me / Post to the forums, if you want to join to war. And say which side you want to play this one. And which country you'll be operating [I'm Finland]
And if you don't know where the Finland / Latvia / Estonia are, they are in Scandinavia, northern Europe.
And, feel free to tag this.

Ic.
Week before assault.

"Put Defcon 2."
"Yes, sir. But.. Why?"
"I'll tell you when it's time for that."
"Okay, sir.."

Day before assault.

"Are all our forces in their positions?"
"Yes, sir. But.. Why?"
"It's time to tell. Get them ready to assault."
"Assault.. Where?"
"Estonia. Latvia."
"What.. Are we going to start a war?"
"Yes. We are."
"Okay.."

Day 1.

"Let me speak to the forces."
"Okay.."
"Okay. You should all hear this. By your company / teamleaders. Or other way. We are going to invade Estonia & Latvia. I know. You don't want this war. But. Either do I. But anyway. We must do this. We just.. And. If Estonia & Latvia surrenders fast, we'll give them autonomy. Most of the parts. But.. Now. It's time to go. I really do hope you will survive from this war."


All of the ships leaved from Rauma, Helsinki, Turku & Kotka. [They're NOT BATTLESHIPS, small frigates and transport ships, sea is just too small for Aircraft carriers.]

25 hours later.

"Sir. We've invaded first parts. Do we proceed? There wasn't much resistance, so not heavy losses. Anyway. We should invade Tallinn fast, before they can fortify it."
"Yes. We need to proceed. And they're already fortified it. I hate to say this, but we need to destroy many old buildings, and make bombardment.."

Ooc. Current Baltic War Map (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/Baltian%20sota%202%20muokkaus.GIF)
Black shows area already invaded, red shows the movements, what comes next. [Do not use it against me, if I let you join!]
I'll post stats later.
Ceydlon
05-09-2004, 12:47
We'll put two of our modest F-16 fighter wings on escort runs of your designation and there will be a small fleet of a dozen frigates with a batallion of 500 men to be disembarked on the northeastern shore of Estland.
Nireva
05-09-2004, 12:50
Ooc.

Troops: 6 million troops [Well, 90 million incoming, and 6 million is MUCH FOR SMALL AREA].
APC's: 2,000 Sisu XA-185 PASIs, 1,000 BMP-2s.
Tanks: 700 Challenger 2's, 500 M-26UMX Main Battle Tanks, 1,000 T-72s.
Also, whole Air Force is in Nireva, ready to launch air strikes.

Also, that might be little too much for small area. And much troops are coming. Really, that's not all.
Nireva
05-09-2004, 12:51
We'll put two of our modest F-16 fighter wings on escort runs of your designation and there will be a small fleet of a dozen frigates with a batallion of 500 men to be disembarked on the northeastern shore of Estland.

Ignored.
- Ask for permission to join war by TELEGRAM.
Ceydlon
05-09-2004, 13:08
Meh. I recant my forces! This war is too big to be involved in.

One of the soldiers headed for Estland be ship fires a shot in the general direction of Finland as the ships turn around. :sniper:
Nireva
05-09-2004, 13:10
"Send the missiles. No bombers. I don't want much losses. And when infantry & tanks attack, send Apaches to give air support."
"Yes, sir. How many.. Tomahawks?"
"Five hundred."
"Yes, sir.."

Later.

"Sir! 451 Tomahawks hitted, ten was shot down, others missed."
"Okay. Send the forces."

Next 5 hours was bloody conflict, many Estonians & Nirevans died during the battle. Not many tanks were lost, but that's becose either sides had much them.

"It's over.. Almost at least."
"Almost?"
"Well. Some Estonian soldiers are hiding in buildings."
"Losses here?"
"No infantry losses. But, 23 SISU's lost. 4 Challenger 2's."
"Okay.. Clear out the last buildings. And start shipping more soldiers, and send them to Tallinn."
"Yes, sir."

Ooc. There are still forces in other places, where the first invasion came, and, in Tallinn.
I'll update the map later.
Nireva
05-09-2004, 15:00
Map Updated! (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/Baltian%20sota%202%20muokkaus.GIF)

I'll post some more RP later.
Nireva
05-09-2004, 15:04
"Sir! Infantry losses from Tallinn!"
"Say.."
"1,262 dead. 2,537 wounded, 1,102 critical. And 30 is missing."
"Many deads.. Many critical wounded.."
"Yes.. There are.."
"Prepare to proceed to the Rapla, Tapa & Rakvere."
"Yes, sir."
Nireva
05-09-2004, 16:42
Bump.
I'd like to get someone to RP with..
Kopparbergs
05-09-2004, 17:10
OOC: *tag*
Check TG

IC: The military of Kopparbergs Karelia has been set to Defcon 2 due to the ongoing war in our neighbourhood.
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05-09-2004, 17:18
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Nireva
05-09-2004, 18:36
OOC: *tag*
Check TG

IC: The military of Kopparbergs Karelia has been set to Defcon 2 due to the ongoing war in our neighbourhood.

Ooc. Ehm. Defcon 2? Thought that comes when there's war.
Defcon 1 = Nuclear war.
Defcon 3 is something like prepared to war. Or when war might come.
No idea what Defcon 4 is.

Btw. Checked, and feel free to join. :)
Nireva
05-09-2004, 18:41
"Launch the attack to Tapa. From both directions."
"Yes, sir."

Within 15 minutes, all attack forces was on the move.
The Tapa was pretty empty, even it was pretty big city. Some conflicts came, inside buildings. But not really much people were lost.

After 3 hours.

"Sir. We've cleared almost every building at there. No tanks have been lossed. Either APC's. 156 infantry dead. 14 wounded, and no one is missing."
"Not much. Good."
"Yes. Sir."
Kopparbergs
05-09-2004, 19:51
OOC: Yes, I ment Defcon 3 in my earlier post. Sorry.
Kopparbergs Karelia is a noighbour state to Estonia (to the north east). St. Petersburg is our capital.

Kopparbergs Karelia is moving tanks to the Estonian border. (We're on Nirevas side in this RP.)

Troups in movement:
300.000 men at the border to Estonia.
300 Abraham M1A2 tanks.
500 JAS 39 Gripen is circulating in the air above and sometimes beyond the border. They're waiting for the right order...
100 Apache AH-64 is ready for takeoff from Slantsy Military base.

IC:
[Military base in the city of Slantsy:]
- General, how long should we wait 'til we start?
- We're just waiting for the confirmative order from Nireva. I think it should come in any minute now...
- OK, I'll tell the Apache battle group to get ready for movement.
- Good. And take us to Defcon two, things is going to happen. Everything must be ready when the order is confirmative!
- Yes sir!

5 minutes later
- We have a go from Nireva! Gentlemen, start your engines!

100 Apache AH-64 lifted from the Military base. Thew flew over the Lake Peipus, heading to the southeast part of Estonia. They met no one while over the lake.

OOC: Map: Here (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar.gif)
Kopparbergs
05-09-2004, 20:31
General Mikael Andersson continued to plan the attack.

"Direct 200 JAS-planes to the other side of the lake, they must support the appaches!"
"Yes, they're already in the air. I direct then over Lake Peipus, towards the city of Polva.
And what about the Abrahams? Should they move across the border, towards Narva?"
"Confirmative! Send 150 tanks in that direction. Take the city! And they must be given air support!"

Along with the tanks, there were 50 SISU XA-85 troup transport vehicles. They also had air support from 100 JAS-planes.

At the port in St. Petersburg one Arleigh Burke Destroyer and ten Brandenburg Class Frigates left towards the Estonian coast.
Kopparbergs
06-09-2004, 08:25
"Please tell me how we're doing." says General Andersson.

"The northern front is going very well sir. We have a few losses, but not much. The Estonians has shoot down three JAS-planes and
blown 10 tanks into peaces. We control the cities of Narva and Sillamee. We have moved the front 25 km forward. When we get support from our ships with missiles we should be able to move forward so we can meet the Nirevian soldiers, they are in Kivioli at this moment."

"Okay, that sounds good. So we have only lost three planes and 10 tanks? Thats really promising!"

"Uhrmmm... Sir..."

"Yes?"

"We're not doing so well on the southern front...
The bastards had AntiAircraft missiles around the city of Polva..."

"Oh my god! How many planes were shot down?"

"Well... They got 50 out of our 200 planes. And 5 Apaches..."

"Geez!!! We must use the B52's!"

"But sir, Nireva did say No bombing..."

"He also did say Defeat them!
Prepare two B52-H planes. Load them full with bombs! But hold them on the ground until I says otherwise."
Nireva
06-09-2004, 14:06
"Sir! Kopparbergs are gonna make bombardment! To Polva!"
"Oh shit..!"
"Say them to stop it! Use Tomahawks, but only if its must be done! We do not want to harm civilians, or old buildings!"
"Yes, sir!"

Meanwhile, Nirevan troops are proceeding Rakvere & Kiviõli.

1 hour later.

"Sir. Our troops are ready to attack Rakvere & Kiviõli.."
"Attack. And get Apaches to give airsupport."
"Yes, sir."

10,000 troops attacked both cityes. With support of 10 PASIs & 5 Challenger 2's. And 10 Apaches.

[Ooc. I'll RP Latvian & Estonian forces..]

Rakvere:
"Sir! Nirevan forces incoming!"
"No! We can't hold them! Get into buildings. Do not open fire until they come to the room!"
"Sir..?"
"Do it!"

After an hour, Nirevan troops knew this was gonna be hard for them.

Kiviõli:
"Sir! Nirevan forces.. They're here..!"
"Shit.."
"What should we do..?"
"Try to hold positions. Try call reinforcements."
"Yes, sir."

Minutes later:

"Sir.. We've losing this war.. Nireva just got too many troops.. We can't get any reinforcements! Kopparbergs is attacking somewhere, and troops are there!"
"Shit.. Fight with all what you got!"

After 2 hours, Kiviõli was under Nireva control.


Ooc.

Losses [Kiviõli]:
Nireva: 2,159 dead. 254 wounded, 121 critical. 6 is missing.
Estonia: 3,245 dead. 56 wounded, 2 critical. 11 is missing, and 573 surrendered.

Ic. [Nireva]

"Losses from Kiviõli. 2,359 dead. 254 wounded. 6 missing.."
"Okay.. How about Rakvere?"
"Not sure yet. Estonia is fighting inside buildings. Either we'll blow up buildings, or take heavy casualties.."
"Shit! Keep going into buildings.."
"Sir! Why?"
"They're old. And important."
"Okay.."

[Estonia]

"Contact to our allies. We really need them now.. Ask for help.."
"Yes, sir."


Ooc. I'll update the map later.
Nireva
06-09-2004, 16:59
After hours of bloody conflicts inside Rakvere, Nirevan troops cleared the buildings.

"Sir. Rakvere's clear now.."
"Why sad?"
"Losses.. So many.."
"Shit.. Numbers?"
"5,671 de-"
"Shit!"
"-ad. 1,314 wounded. 561 critical.. 2 is missing.."
"Shit.. Get 10,000 new troops to there.
And 50,000 to fortify the city."
"Yes, sir.."

Ooc.
Estonian losses:
6,251 dead.
461 wounded, 4 critical.
245 missing.
552 surrendered.
Nireva
06-09-2004, 17:03
Current Nireva menpower inside Estonia:

Troops: 5 million troops.
APC's: 2,000 Sisu XA-185 PASIs, 1,000 BMP-2s.
Tanks: 1,563 Challenger 2's, 1,551 M-26UMX Main Battle Tanks, 2,000 T-72s.
Air Force: 400 Gripens.

Troop numbers are pretty small. But how you're gonna place 50 million troops INSIDE ESTONIA? And we don't even control whole Estonia yet!

Think about that.


Currently inside war
Nireva [Finland]
Estonia & Latvia [Under my RP]
Kopparbergs [West Russian]
Ronamiana [Denmark [Not sure yet, about does he join.]]
Ronamiana
06-09-2004, 17:47
President Mikhail of Denmark sit his office leaning back on his chair while his Chairman of Defense,Alex Zergey explains the Estonia-Lativa Situation.
"Sir, The situation is heating up what! do intend to do about it? I'm not sure if the U.N. will condone Danish involvement in this Invasion."
"The other countries won't do a thing" said Mikhail "Russia itself is in this war and all the other countries would have to oppose them as well as us. Very few countries would oppose Russia"
"Well then sir, how should we conduct this war?" Responded Alex
Well First we Bomb the Island that the City of Kuressaare is on deploy and then deploy a couple thousand troops to secure and area on the island. Then we'll bring in our the rest of our troops with armored support."

And so began the Danish involvement...
Nireva
06-09-2004, 18:05
Ooc. I'd suggest to not bombard unless it's the last choice. We know, Estonia is old nation, many old buildings & other things, and I wouldn't want to harm them.. :rolleyes:

Busy now. Finland-Germany hockeygame starting.
Ronamiana
06-09-2004, 18:27
Ooc. I'd suggest to not bombard unless it's the last choice. We know, Estonia is old nation, many old buildings & other things, and I wouldn't want to harm them.. :rolleyes:

Busy now. Finland-Germany hockeygame starting.
Ooc. Fine then I won't bomb then. I'll even try to make sure that my tanks won't accidentally shoot any of the buidlings
Nireva
06-09-2004, 18:44
Ooc. Fine then I bombing then. I'll even try to make sure that when my tanks land they won't accidentally hit any of the buidlings.

Thank you. :p


"Now. Attack to Rapla."
"Yes sir. Forces on the way."

36 minutes later.

"Sir. Forces are outside city. Send?"
"Yes.."

Estonia:

"Sir! Nirevan troops!"
"Shit! All men into the line!"

Next 50 minutes was bloody conflict which ended to Estonians retreat.
But, Nireva won the battle, and took control of Rapla in 2 hours.

After 50 minutes. [Battle ending time]

"We can't hold them, sir!"
"Yeah.. Retreat!"

After 3 hours.

Nireva:
"Sir! Losses from Rapla!"
"Say. 3,562 dead, 1,461 wounded, 25 critical. 2 is missing. And 6 Challenger II's were lost. And 12 SISU's."
"Okay."
"And 115 Estonians surrendered."
"Okay."

Estonia:
"Sir! We cannot hold our enemys anywhere! We've lost today Kiviõli, Rapla & Rakvere!"
"Yes.. Try to get help from Latvia.. Fast.. And did you get losses from Rapla?"
"Yes. 2 APC's, 1 tank were lost. And 2,131 men dead. 15 wounded, 200 is missing.."

Ooc. Painful attack for me.
Updating map..

Current map can be found here (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/Baltian%20sota.GIF)
Kopparbergs
06-09-2004, 23:39
100 LVTP7 Amphibian Landing Vehicle were heading west at the south front. Together with 150 JAS planes and 100 Abraham tanks they were putting the front a couple of kilometers forward. But it was getting slow.

OOC: Total Kopparbergs Karelian troops in Estonia: 500.000 (has increased by 200.000).
300.000 of the troops are located at the south front, and 200.000 at the north front.
447 JAS-planes and 95 Apache AH-64. Two B52-H is ready for takeoff, but has never crossed the Estonian border.
Almost 300 tanks, but it is going to increase to 400.
In the Gulf of Finland we currently have 34 Brandenburger class frigates, 11 Grisha V FFG frigates, 2 Kilo Class Submarines (not used, yet), and 4 Arleigh Burke Destoyers (almost all of the ships came from St. Petersburg). None of the ships has done anything in the war yet.

IC:
General Andersson was not pleased with the loss of 50 JAS planes in Polva.

"We must defeat the anti-airbattery in Polva. Dedicate 100 JAS, 50 Apaches and 50 tanks for that mission! And get them 50.000 troops"

"We have located three anti-airbatteries surrounding Polva, sir. I suggest that we let the B-52's handle this."

"No, we must try to defeat them without massive bombing. That's a part of our mission, remember?"

"Yes, sir!"

2 hours later:

"Two anti-airbatteries around Polva is destroyed, sir. The third is in our hands."

"Very great! How did we make? Losses?"

"Yes, a few. We were very carefully. We only lost four JAS-planes and two tanks. And 130 dead soldiers..."

"OK, thats affordable. Now the city of Polva will be in our control. It's just a matter of houres. Begin to move the troops into the city!"

"Roger that!"

OOC: Map updated (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar.gif)
Kopparbergs
07-09-2004, 12:04
The city of Polva was an easy move for the Kopparbergs soldiers once the anti-airbatteries was gone. After four hours of battle inside the citylimits the city was in Kopparbergs hands. And almost no buldings was destroyed. Nireva should be glad about that.

The northern front was nearly not moving forward, just a couple of kilometers (1-2 km). The resources was prioritized to the Lake Peipus. Kopparbergs wanted to control the whole sea and the beaches all around the lake (on the Estonian side).

"How many men did we lost in the battle of Polva?"

"It was a very unbloody battle sir. The Estonians were not in mood for fighting. They surrendered very quickly. I think that they thought that it had been enough fights around Polva."

General Andersson:

"Send a message to St. Petersburg that we need more troops down here. Things are going to slow. I know that they have a lot of reservists in St. Petersburg that were called in when the war started. Ask them to send 100.000 more troops, but send the reservist to the north front, and move the ordinary troops here."

"Yes sir, will do that."

"And send a message that they must tell the Ronamianan marine to watch out for our submarine (Kilo class) that's in the Gulf of Riga. I don't want them to defeat our submarine..."

"Yes. Should we tell them about our frigates outside the Saaremaa island as well?"

"Is that neccesary? Shouldn't they se them by theirself? OK, tell them about that also. Couldn't do any harm."

OOC: Kopparbergs Karelia has moved the 34 Brandenburger class frigates outside the island of Saaremaa. One Kilo class submarine is somewhere in the Gulf of Riga. So far, the Karelian marines has not been involved in any military action taken. But they are on highest alert. On the updated map the frigates position is marked with an "F" surrounded by a square. The submarine is also marked at the map, but that's not an exact position. The two Arleigh Burke class destroyers is somewhere in the Gulf of Finland (also the second submarine).
Total Kopparbergs Karelian troops in Estonia: 500.000, will rise by 100.000 (reserves that will be located in the northern part).

Updated map here (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar2.gif)
Nireva
07-09-2004, 14:14
Ooc. I'd suggest that we both use same map.. I'd suggest mine, I've saved your map many times, but when I zoom it little, it's too blur to read name of cityes.

Ic. Estonia:
"Sir! Latvians won't help us.."
"WHAT!? WHY!?"
"I don't know sir.. I don't know.."
"Okay. How much forces we have left?"
"One million."
"Okay.. We need a battle plan.. A damn good one.. Any suggestions?"
"No, sir."
"Hm.. Okay. 78,000 troops to Pärnu. 100,000 to Viljandi. And 175,000 to Tartu. Let Tartu be our last defence line.."
"Okay, sir.. How about the rest of the people?"
"Let them group together. And scout around the cityes."
"Yes, sir."
"We have much planes?"
"Umm.. Not too many.."
"Damn! We can't even make a damn air strike!"
"Yes, we can't.."
"Any submarines? Or ships?"
"Couple submarines. One frigate."
"Where?"
"Near Hiiumaa."
"Okay. Try get them Gulf of Finland. To take out Nirevan supply ships."
"Yes, sir."
"Oh. Any bombers? Do we have ANY BOMBERS?"
"Well.. 2 B-2A Spirits.."
"Where's Nirevan command centre in here?"
"Not sure."
"Kopparbergs?"
"No idea."
"DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?"
"Nothing, what would be important.."

Ooc. Don't use this info against Estonia, yet. Spys are working, but they're not too fast. :rolleyes:
Also, there are two resistance bases, in Jõgeva & in Kuressaare. Estonian forces don't know about them. We don't know about them. Just would be realistic, if there would be some civilian resistance.

They don't have good weaponry. No tanks or planes [Well. Terrorist strikes are possible with basic civilian plane/car..]. And not good training. And not too well co-ordinated.
But remember, every soldier who drops his weapon and dies, there's a possibility that resistance takes the weapon.
And, of course, civilians around Estonia may do some resistance, but those two are bigger ones. :)

I'll update the map now, but it won't show Kopparbergs movements.
Just Estonia & mine. And resistances :p

Updated map. [Doesen't show Kopparbergs movements.] (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/Baltian%20sota%202.GIF)
Rubberduckistan
07-09-2004, 14:50
*tagitytagtagtag* But the question remains....Why? :rolleyes:
Nireva
07-09-2004, 15:50
*tagitytagtagtag* But the question remains....Why? :rolleyes:

Thanks for tagging. Hope you like. :)

Well. As my population is almost 1 billion, Finland is "bit" too small for the people. Even if I claim most of Latvia & Estonia, it's too small. But still. I might get part of Norway during the war, so I'll get big naval base inside my borders [Gulf of Finland, want Aircraft Carrier there? I don't think that'll stay..]
Nireva
07-09-2004, 16:48
Estonia.

"We just gotta do SOMETHING against Nireva & Kopparbergs!"
"But.. Sir.. What?"
"I DO NOT KNOW THAT!"
"Launch airstrike against them?"
"Don't they have AA's?"
"Don't know.."
"Yes. I'm pretty sure they do have!"
"But we can't be sure."
"Yes, we can't be sure."
"But that's the only thing what we CAN do!"
"Yes.. Send 50 F-16's.."
"To where?"
"Umm.. Rapla."
"Sir? That's and old city.. If we strike to it, many old bui-"
"SHUT UP! THIS IS WAR! LAUNCH IT NOW! And tell the ETA!"
"Yes, sir.. I'll tell it when I get it."
"Good."

Minutes later.

"6 minutes."
"Okay."


Nireva [In Rapla]:

"Shit! ADAD's alerting! Enemy aircraft incoming!"
"Defencive positions!"
"Yes, sir! Get AA's ready!"
"Right away, sir!"
"They're coming..!"
"We're gonna die!"
"Shut up, soldier! Call for Gripens!"
"Yes, sir!"
"What's ETA?"
"3 minutes."
"Damn.. Too much.."
"Yes.. We must handle them alone."
"Yes.. Let them come anyway."
"Yes, sir!"
"They're here..!" [Backround firing starts heavily]
"No!"
"Shit! Two AA's already blew!"

Estonia fighter:

"Two AA's blew. Think we'll take this battle."
"Yeah. Keep firing!"
"Fox-3!"
"I've got one!"
"Incoming missiles.. Use countermeasues!"
"Shit! They got one.."
"Fire at the AA's!"

Within 2 minutes, all of the AA's were gone, and about 21 planes shot down.

Estonia:

"Enemy fighters incoming."
"Retreat. We've done our mission."

Nireva [Rapla]:

"Sir.. Are you alive..?"
"Shit.. Major's dead.."

Nireva [HQ]:

"General! Rapla was just under heavy air attack!"
"WHAT!?"
"Yes.. Many lossses.. Total number is not yet counted.. But.. Many.."
"Didn't our Crotales take care of them?"
"Not all.. Some.."
"Shit! Where did those planes come from?"
"Seems like Viljandi.."
"That's our next goal.."
"Yes, sir.."
"And tell the losses, when they come."
"Yes, sir."

Ooc. The ADAD did not alarm when planes started coming, it alerted when they were too close.
Kopparbergs
08-09-2004, 11:24
With the reinforcement from the northern front, the southern front was beginning to move a bit. St. Petersburg has also sent 300 more Apache AH-64 and 100 more Abrahams (M1A2). Total Kopparbergs Karelian troops in Estonia now: 600.000 men, 395 Apache AH-64, 400 Abraham M1A2, 443 JAS 39 Gripens.

Lieutenant Eriksson to General Andersson:

"What happend to the Estonians, sir? We're hardly getting any resistance anymore? Have they completely surrendered?"

"Hmm... No, Nireva has came a bit more south, but together we don't even control half of the country. I can't even imagine that they have surrendered. They must have something going on that we're not aware about...
But as long as we don't meet any harder resistance than this, it will go faster than I thought to reach the Latvian border."

"What's the plan, sir? Should we move towards Tartu and take that city too?"

"No, we should countinue to move south. We must reach the Latvian border."

"Why is it so important to reach the Latvian border?"

"We must be prepared to stop the Latvians if they will come and help the Estonians. The closer the border we are, the better it is."

"Do you think that the Latvians will come and help?"

"Yes, why wouldn't they? Aren't they allies?"

"I think so..."

"Did you hear that the Estonians attackt the Nirevan city of Rapla?"

"Yes I heard. Dirty Scumbags..."

"Are we prepared if they would come to St. Petersburg?"

"Yes, but it could be better. We have many troops her in Estonia and many troops in the northern part of our country, around Kola Peninsula. But it could be more in the southern part... Let's hope they will stay in Estonia."


OOC:
I'm a little short of time today, I'm not sure if I can post more before late night. But I'll do if I can!
Agree that we should use the same map. I think that your map is a bit large, but maybe you will expanding this war to other countries as well? :)
I have updated your map with my troops. From now on I'll use your map.

Updated map here, with Nireva & Kopparbergs troops (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar3.gif)
(The stroke in the sea outside the two big islands is where my frigates are located (around 20 Brandenburger class). Additional frigates (14) are located in the Gulf of Finland. The Kilo class submarine is somewhere in the Gulf of Riga.
Nireva
08-09-2004, 13:22
Ooc. In any way, Estonia wouldn't have a chance to make airstrike to Helsinki, at least now, becose so many AA's between. But Rapla was near border.. :rolleyes:
I guess same thing with St. Petersburg.
Anyway. Lets do something.

Ic.

"Sir.. We've made large progress.. Hardly any resistance here.."
"Sergeant, we keep moving this team so long, as we reach Latvian border. Or find resistance. Or radio command to do something else!"
"Yes, sir.."
"This is 5th recon team. We need reinforcements now! Taking heavy fire [backround shooting]! We're in Jõgeva!"
"This is 24th company. We're on the way."
"We can't take this much longer! Be fa... Bzz..."
"Shit.. Go go go!"

2 hours later.

"5th recon team..?"
"Anyone here..?"
"Keep your heads up. Here's something."
"Yes, sir.."
"Look out.."
"Here's one.. Dead.. Shit.."
"Take the weapon."
"I.. Can't see the weapon.."
"Resistance? Thought Estonia would have money to get guns.."
"Yes.. I thought too.."
"24th company to HQ, we're in Jõgeva. Requesting for back up. I think here's resistance.. 5th recon team is down. And.. So quiet.."
"This is HQ. Confirmed, 24th company, 25th & 28th company on the way."
"Sir! I saw one!"
"Hold your fire!"
"We're.. We're gonna all die!"
"Shut up!"
Resistance starts shooting from windows.
"They're in buildings!"
"Shit! Try hi.."
"Captain's dead! Shit!"
"This is lieteunant Virtanen, taking command, retreat! Now!"
"Yes, si.."
"HQ, this is 24th company, taking heavy fire! Requesting for support. There's resistance camp in Jõgeva! We can't take them! Falling back!"
"This is HQ. Confirmed, 24th company, fall back. 24th company.. Anyone there..?"

HQ:

"Call back our companys. Call for president."

5 minutes later.

"Mr. president!"
"We've lost another company!"
"Where now?"
"Jõgeva."
"Okay."
"But.. That's not Estonian Army.."
"Resistance? What the..?"
"Yes.. Resistance.."
"Shit.."
"All 160 soldiers.. All dead, missing, wounded or surrendered.."
"GET THAT RESISTANCE CAMP OUT OF THERE!"
"Yes, sir."

Ooc. Not bothering to make updates to map. Anyway. Nireva made some progress to south, expect from Jõgeva.
Nireva
08-09-2004, 16:01
Nirevan Parliament:
"Get 100,000 men ready. We're gonna take Jõgeva."
"Right away, sir."

Nirevan Estonian Mainbase:
"President told us to get 100,000 mens to invade Jõgeva."
"I'll get them ready."
"Move them already near the city."
"Yes, sir."

4 hours later.

"You know our mission, right?"
"Yes.."
"We need to invade that city. It's under Resistance's hands. They have our weapons. At least some of them. One company died here already."
"Yes, sir.. When do we move?"
"Umm.."
"This is HQ, go go go!"
"Now."

35 minutes later.

"They must be hiding inside buildings. Check them."

5 minutes later.

Big explosion.
"What the..?!"
"Wired!"
"Mines!"
"Shit! Disarm the mines. Some of you have equiptment for that."
"Yes, sir."
"And look out for them!"

60 minutes later.

"Sir.. All of those buildings.. Are.. Empty.."
"What..? Sure?"
"Yes.."
"Shit.. They're somewhere here.."


6 minutes later.

"Sir.. Jõgeva was.. Empty."
"What? Damn good Resistance then."
"Yeah.."
"Um.. Sir.. Important message.. 2 of our supply ships.. Disappeard."
"Disappeard?"
"Destroyed.."
"Destroyed? What!? Send submarines to search for enemy submarines! NOW! Losses?"
"Um.. About 200 men."
"Damn.."

50 Upholder Class SSK's left searching the area.
And every ship has now 2 Upholders guarding them.

Ooc. Updating map..
Here. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar3.gif)
Kopparbergs
09-09-2004, 12:39
Daily report from the front (message sent to St. Petersburg from General Andersson):

"The troopadvance has gone quit well, the Estonians has not made big resistance. Unfortunately we haven't reached the Latvian border, the advance is made at the west side.
A total of 650 troops and 8 tanks lost in action today. One JAS 39 Gripen was shut down by the Russians (Pskov) when it by mistake came outside the Estonian borders. The Pskov military has made a statement that they will continue to shot down any Karelian airplanes that crosses the Pskov borders. I can assure you sirs, that we will do our uttermost to avoid the Pskov borders. We do not want them to enter the war.
We have about 3000 Estonian POW. Where shall we send them? We don't want them here at the front."

---
Spot from the KKNN (Television news):

Ten people were shot down by the military in St. Petersburg today. There was a huge demonstration against the war in Estonia which degenerated into riots. As you all know every kind of demonstration is illegal in Karelia, so the policeforce together with the military had to stop it. "Take the soldiers home! Stop the war!" shouted the crowd. Kopparbergs Karelia has 600.000 soldiers in Estonia, and about 500 has been KIA.
---

Military headquarters in St. Petersburg:

"Sir, have you seen this report!"

"What is it?"

"It's from our source in Latvia. The Estonian president is in Riga!"

"Aha! He has escaped from Estonia. What a coward!"

"Yes, our King should never do such a thing. And according to this report parts of the Estonian government has been seen in Tartu."

"OK. Send a copy of the report to the Nireva HQ."

"Yes, will do that immediatly!"

OOC: Updated map here (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar3.gif)
Nireva
09-09-2004, 13:45
"Estonian president.. Escaped..? What the..?"
"Yes, at least that's what Kopparbergs says."
"And that Tartu thing.. It's big place.. But as and HQ?"
"Yes. It's HQ. At least we think so."
"It's.. Nice place. I've.. Been there."
"Okay.. Well. Should we.. Make bombardment?"
"Like I earlier said. No. Not unless it must."
"Yes, sir.. But.. Invading will cost many lifes."
"I know.. I know.. But lets make some process - Continue to the islands near Estonian west border."
"Yes, sir."

2 hours later.

"Go go go! We're jaegars! Not girls! [Ooc. No offence, I love you.. Girls. :D ]"
"Get the men down now! Taking AA fire!"
"Shit! Go go GO!"
"We're going doown!"
"Shit! Take parachutes and get out! I'll come after you!"

16 minutes later.

"Regroup, team. We've got 2 more teammembers.. Jussi Mäkelä & Tommi Väisänen.. Pilots of our Learjet."

15 minutes later all 15 teams regrouped. And they're preparing to scout the area, and make a temporary base.

Estonia [Some soldiers in island]:
"Shit. WHY DID YOU SHOOT THEM?! WHY!?"
"But. Sir.. They were.. Enemys."
"NO THEY WERE NOT! WE DID NOT WANT INTO THIS WAR! We're the.. Girls! [Ooc. Still no offence. :) And they're just soldiers that ran and hide. ] But.. Thanks to you. We must fight.."
"Yes. At last we do fight!"
"F*ck you. I should shoot you right away!"
"Then shoot!"
"No. I need all of these.. Soldiers."

Nirevan Parliament:

"Sir! 2 of Learjets were shot down. Not known dead yet. One injured pretty badly."
"Good pilots."
"Yes."
"Take out that damn AA.."
"Yes, sir!"

Estonian President [In Riga]:

"Help us, damn it!"
"No. I will not. I don't fight against Nireva & Kopparbergs."
"Then.. We're doomed."
"Yes. You are."

Ooc. Updating map later.
Nireva
10-09-2004, 15:29
Nirevan Parliament:

"Sir. We've found Estonian Defenceline. You can see it from map. And. Not much movements spotted in island.."
"Okay. Good. Break that Line, go for Tartu."
"Yes, sir."

HQ:

"General!"
"Yes?"
"Shouldn't we ask Kopparbergs help?"
"Nope. Not with this one. And they're moving to west, taking Latvian borders, if Estonia gets help from there."
"Yes, sir."

Island Forces:

"Freeze! Drop your weapons or we will shoot you!"
"Shit!" And man dropped the weapons. Right after he dropped, shooting started, behind Nirevan forces.
"Taking fire!"
"Take cover!"
"Shit! Sergeant's dead!"
"Shit! Kill them! Kill them now! Get Apaches here!"
"This is 2nd & 5th team of Island, send Apaches, taking fire."
"This is HQ. Confirmed, Apaches incoming. ETA 2 minutes."
"Hold your positions!"
"Yes, sir!"

2 minutes later.

"Here they are!"
"At last!"
"This is Attack Helicopter 156, is anyone there?"
"Here we are.. Well. All who's left.."
"Okay. Where's the enemy?"
"Disappeard.."
"What?! In 2 minutes?!"
"Yes.."
"What the hell are they?!"
"Resistance.."
"Too.. Co-ordinated!"
"It's well co-ordinated, yes. Hey! Look out! Stinger! Shit.."
"This is 2nd & 5th team, Apache has been shot down. Asking for immediatly evacuation.. HQ..? Anyone..?"
"Radio is.. Broken.."
"What!? Shit! We're gonna die!"
"Shut up. Hide at building.. We're waiting for help."
"Yes, sir.. But.."
"No buts."

HQ:

"2nd & 5th team.. Silenced. And Apache too."
"So.. They're dead."
"Guess so.."
"Send 5,000 men to that damn island! TAKE THE RESISTANCE DOWN NOW! Even if we'd need to destroy whole island! And report to president!"
"Yes, sir.."


Estonian HQ:

"Sir. We've got contact to president."
"He's.. Alive?"
"Yes, he escaped to Riga."
"Escaped!? Cowardly.. Bastard."
"Um.. He heard that.."
"Ehm. Sorry, mr. president. I didn't mean that."
"Yes, you did mean, I've been here and trying to get Latvia to help us. And. Latvia won't help us. They don't want into war."
"Shit!"
"Yes.."

Latvian Parliament [Or whatever it is?]

"President?"
"Yes."
"What you'd think if WE would ATTACK Estonia.. We could get some land. Easily."
"But.."
"And. We can ask alliance with Kopparbergs & Nireva."
"Ehm. That's.. Stupid."
"Why?"
"Well.. Becose.. They wouldn't take us as ally."
"Why?"
"Becose we have alliance with Estonia."
"Why don't we help him then?"
"Becose. I don't want to."
"But. We do have alliance. So we must help. And, after all, if we win, we can take some money from Estonia."
"Well.. Put us Defcon 2. We're going to help Estonia.. Ask for Pskov & Norway help."
"Norway? They're far away.."
"Yes, but they can attack Nirevan mainland. So Nireva would have to fall back."

Later.

"Well. Estonian president."
"Yes?"
"If. IF we help you. What we will get?"
"We'll.. Give you.. 20 billion?"
"No. 800,000,000,000 dollars. Not less."
"WHAT?! Are you insane?!"
"No. Well. Lose the war then.. I don't mind."
"Okay.. Okay.. We'll do that.. We'll pay that in 100 next years.. After the war."
"Okay. That's fine. We're on Defcon 2."
"Good."

Ooc. Updated map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar4.gif)


Ooc. Losses from island: 68 dead. 4 is missing.
Kopparbergs
11-09-2004, 08:37
Lieutenant Eriksson to General Andersson:

"We have reached the Latvian border, sir!"

"Great! Do you see any Latvian troop activity?"

"Yes, they're up to something. But we don't know if it's for defence or if they are coming to help the Estonians..."

"OK, be on highest alert. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT cross the border."

"But, what should we do if they're coming into Estonia?"

"Shoot them down. Act like they were attacking our country."



OOC: Statistics from the front at Latvian border: 190 dead, 200 wounded. We have taken 180 POW's.

(I'll Post more later today!)

Updated map here (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar4.gif)
Nireva
11-09-2004, 09:12
5,000 troops invading Island:

"Invade that beach. There's not known activity."
"Sure, sir?"
"YES, NOW GO!"
"Go go go!"

5 minutes later.

"Every team reported clear. Good. Let's proceed to the place where we lost contact."
"Yes, sir."
"1st & 2nd team, check left flank. 3rd % 4th, right flank. 5th & 6th. Behind.
7th. Recon. 8th, find clear position where you can give cover fire. 9th & 10th, advance. Others. Stay close to me." said leading captain.
"Yes, sir." all answered & confirmed.
"This ist 1st Island Armored Team. We're on the position now. Say when attack."
"Okay. We'll say."

5 hours later.

"1st IAT, go!"
"Confirmed."
"All, go now!"
"Yes, sir."

5 minutes later.

"All clear."
"IAT, hold your positions here. I guess they don't have many LAWs."
"Confirmed."
"Other teams. Go. Like before. We are gonna clear this whole island."
"Yes, sir.. Hopefully we find them fast.. I've hurt my foot."
"Um. Badly?"
"No, sir. I can continue."
"Good."
"I saw something.."
"9th & 10th. Go! Check it"
"Aww! Shit! Don't shoot! Don't shoot! I surrender!" Man said.
"Shoot him."
And soldier shot.

4 men hiding inside village:

"Did you hear something?"
"Yeah. Shooting. Maybe we're gonna be rescued.."
"Hope so.."
"Stay quiet."

Resistance out there:
"Shot fired!"
"What the?"
"Hide."

10 minutes later soldiers walked trought Resistancecamp.

"Sir.. Here's something.. A camp. So. We're close."
"Yeah."
Shit! Why didn't we just leave this camp.. They're gonna just wait here..
"9th & 10th team. Hide yourself. Lets wait for them."
"Yes, sir."
Damn.. I have to shoot.. We cannot survive.. I can take that captain.. But.. Then I'm dead.. . And he shot.
"Captain!"
"Dead! Take cover! They're here! Shoot them!"
"Now!"
"IAT, come here. They're here"
And soldiers shot. Resistance shot back.

After 3 minutes, shooting was over, and IAT came.

"IAT.. You're late! Damn it!"
"Well. You survived."
"Yeah."
"Report the losses to HQ."

HQ:

"Losses from Island: 61 dead. 3 wounded. 1 critical. Lost one PASI, there was mines. Driver's still alive. But critical."
"Okay. Get them to president."
"Yes, sir."

Nirevan Parliament:

To: Nireva - Helsinki.
From: Norway - Oslo.
Subject: Estonian War.

Message: As you attacked Estonia. We did not attack against you.
If you attack to Latvia.
We will attack you. Pskov has sent similar message to Kopparbergs.
This is just a warning. I've put us Defcon 3. Not 2.
But. If you do attack Latvia. We WILL ATTACK YOU.

............
End of message.
"Get some troops to Lappland. Norway might attack. And warn Kopparbergs."
"Yes, sir. And. We've taken the Island. At least we think so. One Resistance has been shot down. No POWs."
"Okay. Good. Losses?"
And he said.


Latvian Parliament:

"Pskov & Norway won't help us. Unless they attack to us.. Damn."
"Get our men to border. But do not cross the borders."
"How about if Kopparbergs men shoot?"
"Shoot back. If they don't, we don't."
"Yes, sir."

Ooc. Just notice, they haven't attacked yet. So I hope Kopparbergs won't attack them yet. :p
And, while both sides is on own sides of border. No one should fire. As they haven't crossed line yet.

And the map (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar5.gif)
Kopparbergs
11-09-2004, 11:54
Andersson/Eriksson again:

"What the hell is this?"

"I don't know sir... But the Supreme Commander want us to send 50.000 troops back to Slantsy. Instead we get 100.000 reservs."

"Well, then do it. But it's no good to have rookies at the front."

"And the message also tell us to be aware at the Pskov border. They have said that they are going to attack us if we crosses the Latvian border."

"OK. We must be carefull. We aren't allowed to cross the borders to Latvia and Pskov."

"Sir, we cannot continue westwards when we have such large troops at the borders."

"OK, then we have to wait. We must fortify the borders first."


[St. Petersburg, Supreme commander's office]

"We must regroup our forces. Move more troops to the borders in south and north. We must decrease the amount of troops in Estonia. The defence of Kopparbergs Karelia must come in first place. Norway has threatened Nireva that they will attack them if we or them move troops across the Latvian border. And put the navy in Murmansk on highest alert, send out two Nimitz class carriers. Tell the Ponoy navy to close the straight into White sea. Send out 1:st fleet of submarines (Kilo class) in Barents sea."

"Yes sir, the orders are sent out as we speak."

"Does we have the E-3 Sentrys in the air?"

"Yes, we have three from St. Petersburg in the air, and three on the ground in Murmansk ready for take off."

"Good. Prepare the B52s in St. Petersburg for takeoff. We must be ready if the Pskovs comes earlier than they sais."
Kopparbergs
11-09-2004, 15:26
Secret message to the Norwegian President from
King Carl Gustav XX of Kopparbergs Karelia:

It has came to our knowledge that you intend to
attack Nireva if Nirevian or Kopparbergs soldiers
crosses the border of Latvia.

As an ally of Nireva we stand ready to defend
the Nirevan borders. If you attack Nireva the
government of Kopparbergs Karelia will act as an
attack of Kopparbergs Karelia was made.

We don't want to bring you into this war, but if
you attack Nireva you're in it, and should be
ready to take the consequences of it.

We cannot guarantee that we don't make
massive attacks on your capitial Oslo as well as
other cities in Norway.

With respect,
King Carl Gustav XX of Kopparbergs Karelia



A similar message is sent to the Pskov Parliament, with "a thret" that they not should attack us.
Nireva
11-09-2004, 16:29
From: Norway - Oslo.
To: Nireva - Helsinki ; Kopparbergs - St. Petersbug
Subject: War of Estonia.

Message: As we [Norway & Pskov] are allys of Latvia, we cannot allow you to attack Latvia, we will attack your mainlands.
IF YOU CROSS THAT BORDER.
If you don't, we'll stay away. I do not want into this war.
But if you cross that line. We will come. And beat you.

....
End of message.

"They don't dare to attack.."
"Sir.. I think they do."
"No. Norway wouldn't dare. I don't know about Pskov. But.. Not Norway."
"Well.. Hope you're right."
"But well. Let's crush Tartu. Now. Attack from North & East. Say when they're outside the city."
"Yes, sir."

Bases around Tartu:

"Um.. I've got strange message.. They want us to attack Tartu.. Without bombardment first.."
"What!? It's.. Real.. Shit.."
"Do we ask for bombardment?"
"No. This is direct order.. We'll move."

So, 70,000 troops left from East.
50,000 from North.
And 8,000 from North-West.
East have 250 Challenger II's.
North 200.
East have 800 PASIs.
Norht 700.
East have 50 Apaches.
North 10.
Both had 50 Crotales. [AA's]
South-west moved by foot.

14 hours later.

"Sir. They're near city."
"Losses?"
"Heavy casualties.. From East, 2,521 dead or missing. From North: 12,151 dead or missing. And connectio to North-West is broken. So I think they're all dead."
"Okay. Let them rest couple of hours."
"Yes, sir."
"But. Be look out."
"Of course, sir."

Estonian HQ [Tartu]

"Sir. They're here.."
"Call for F-16's. Call for Apaches.. Call for.. Reinforcements!"
"Yes, sir.."

North-West soldiers:

"Radio's still broken?"
"Yes."
"FIX IT NOW! We'll hold these positions. We cannot attack Tartu when we have no radio connection."

Ooc. Sorry for long message [Well. Not long, but pretty empty]. But I thought it would be better like this. :rolleyes:
And now the time slows down for me.. Not gonna RP the attack now.
Nireva
11-09-2004, 18:54
Phonecall between Tartu HQ & Estonian President:

"Sir.."
"Yes?"
"Nireva's arount the city.. We need those reinforcements now!"
"I say it to Latvian president."
"Thank you, sir."

Estonian president to Latvian president.

"Send your forces now.. Before it's too late."
"I will. I got answer from Pskov & Norway. They will not attack unless Nireva or Kopparbergs attacks Latvia."
"Okay."
"Now. Go. I need to call my generals."
"Okay.."

16 minutes later:
- 100 transport planes left, around Latvia.
- 700 F-16's.
- 100 Mi-8's.
- 500 Apaches.
- 5,000 T-72's.
- 500,000 troops.

All of those were heading to Tartu, or Kopparbergs positions.

Soldiers around Tartu:

"ADAD! Get AA's!"
"HQ! You said Estonian air forces were destroyed!"
"They are. Those are.. Latvian."
"Shit.."
"Look out! Estonians are attacking!"
"HQ! We cannot hold these positions! We are under heavy fire!"
"This is HQ, fall back. I repeat; Fall back!"
"You heard! Fall back! Now!"

74 minutes later almost all Nirevan forces near Tartu were destroyed, killed or surrendered.

Nirevan Parliament:

"Sir! This is.."
"I see it.. How the.."
"I.. Don't know.."
"Shit.."
"Do we have exact numbers?"
"Not yet.. But.. They're big.."
"Thought so.."


Ooc. East forces: 64,611 dead, 2,231 surrendered.
North forces: 42,145 dead, 241 surrendered.

Every tank & PASI & Crotale was destroyed. 24 Apaches were shot down. They all evacuated to North.

Estonia: 15,215 dead.
Latvia: 48 F-16's destroyed, 5,816 men dead.

Updated map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar6.GIF)
Latvian Movements Map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar6Latvianmovements.GIF)

Just notice: They don't cross borders which are controlled by Kopparbergs, yet.
Nireva
12-09-2004, 07:56
Nireva - HQ.

"Sir.. I'm detecting multiple movements all around Latvia.. They're not just giving support with planes & few troops.. Whole army is mobilized.."
"What? Shit! Report to president!"
"Still no bombardments?"
"Guess we have to.. But.. No yet."
"Okay."
"Oh. Send 100,000 troops from North & East & Nort-West to take Tartu out! And let them have GOOD AA SYSTEMS!"
"Yes, sir.. Should we send Gripens there?"
"I guess we need.."
"How many?"
"500. Anything that moves in Tartu / 100 kilometers to any way - SHOOT."
"Just for fighters?"
"Are you stupid? Of course!"
"Yes, sir."

So they reported to president.

Tartu now has over 200,000 troops there. But no tanks. Not yet, Latvian forces are still coming.

Latvian Parliament:

"Should we attack Kopparbergs?"
"We have to. Send the forces."
"Yes, sir. How about Nirevan forces?"
"Send 300 F-16's to launch attacks against camps.

200,000 troops left, and they're heading to Põlva.
1,500 T-72's left, heading to Põlva.
5,000 BMP-2's left, heading to Põlva.
500 Apaches left, covering moving forces.
250 F-16's left, attacking Põlva.
300 F-16's left, attacking Nireva's camps.

ETA to reach border & attack Kopparbergs first troops: 5 hours.
ETA to reach Põlva [Fighters]: 17 minutes.
ETA to reach Nireva's temporary bases: 46 minutes.
ETA to reach Tartu & other Estonian bases: 2 days.

Ooc. Guess we need to fall back. At least for a while. :rolleyes:
Oh, yes, I did increase Latvian & Estonian people numbers. :p
Just to make it bit more even.
And by the way, added baselocations to map, not updating it now, it's really not important yet.
Kopparbergs
12-09-2004, 16:05
"-They're her! THEY'RE HER!!!"

"-Shoot'em down!!"

Kopparbergs troops were ready for the Latvians, but they got scared anyway...
The AA batteries along the front worked at maximum. Many of them were bombed by the Latvian forces. This was the bloodiest day so far in this war for Kopparbergs Karelia. But Kopparbergs had a advantage over the Latvians because we have the ground in total control, and many planes around in the air. But the Latvians were *many*...

A total of 150 JAS 39 Gripens (and 105 Apaches) were lost in battle, and we shot down 50 of the Latvians F-16's (and 15 Apaches).
Total Kopparbergs troops KIA this bloody day: 23.000, wounded: 42.000. The Estonias lost around 10.000 men and Latvian's KIA were 16.000.

[General Andersson:]

"Shit, shit, SHIT!"

"Yes, should we capitulate?"

"No, we cannot do that. But we must fall back so we have a strong front again. And we need more troops and planes here. Do you know that as of this minute we only have 292 JAS-planes and 290 Apaches left inside the Estonian borders?"


[Supreme commander's office]

"What a hell of a day..."

"Yes, I'm sorry sir."

"Send 100.000 more troops to the south front. And bring them 100 more JAS-planes. But no more Apaches now."

"OK, I'll send the order."

"Tell the navy that's outside the Estonian coast to move outside the Latvian coast, include the submarine that's in the area. It may be necessary to attack the city of Liepãja. If we do that, the Latvians must fall back to defend their own country."

"Yes, that's true. But how about the Pskovs and the Norwegians? They said that they are going to attack us and Nireva if we attack Latvia."

"Well, we'll se how we do about that. But we must do something! And tell 10 B52's to be on highest alert, just in case."

"Will do!"
Nireva
12-09-2004, 16:32
"ADAD! AA's here!"
"Shit!"
"HQ - We are detecting multiple aircrafts. Guess they're not Kopparbergs?"
"I don't think they are. Latvians."
"Shit. Good thing is, that we have Buk M1's."
"Yeah, but other camps doesen't."
"What? They're attacking not just here?"
"At least 4 bases are under attack."
"Okay.."

16 minutes later Nirevan forces shot fighters down, in that base.
One base were lost, 2 others had heavy losses.

Latvian losses: 251 F-16's [248 pilots, 3 captured]
Nirevan losses: 2,627 dead.

Meanwhile, Nirevan troops started to be near Tartu again.
Nireva
12-09-2004, 16:36
Norway - King's palace.

"Sir. Kopparbergs shot many, many Latvian men. Shouldn't we attack now?"
"Did they cross borders? No. We'll wait."
"Okay."

Pskov - Parliament.

"Sir. Kopparbergs fired many Latvian men & plane. I think we need to attack now."
"They did not cross borders. But.. Get mens ready, near borders. But do not attack."
"Yes, sir."

Norway's message to Pskov

To: Pskov.
From: Norway.
Subject: War of Estonia.

Message: Hold on! They did not cross the borders yet!
Don't get your mens ready to your borders! We just lose our suprise!
Fall back!

...
End of message.

Pskov - Parliament.

"Um. Call back our forces. We'll stay on Defcon3."
"Yes, sir.."
Hataria
12-09-2004, 16:42
The Empire of Hataria will Help Nireva in The Invasions, We will send 340,000 Troops, if Nireva likes my help.
Nireva
12-09-2004, 16:51
The Empire of Hataria will Help Nireva in The Invasions, We will send 340,000 Troops, if Nireva likes my help.

Which country you'll be operating, if I let you come?
I want to know that too.
Hataria
12-09-2004, 16:56
Which country you'll be operating, if I let you come?
I want to know that too.

Latvia.

oh, and I still use horsemen and War Mammoths, but I mosty use Modern Weapons.
Nireva
12-09-2004, 17:40
Latvia.

oh, and I still use horsemen and War Mammoths, but I mosty use Modern Weapons.

Ooc.
LATVIA? And helping me? Sorry, no way. Latvia is enemy, "Nireva Invades Estonia & Latvia .."
And, as I already have plans for Latvia, I don't let you be operating Latvia, even for being enemy.

If you want, you can choose other country.
And I suggest you read this topic first.
Hataria
12-09-2004, 21:42
Ooc.
LATVIA? And helping me? Sorry, no way. Latvia is enemy, "Nireva Invades Estonia & Latvia .."
And, as I already have plans for Latvia, I don't let you be operating Latvia, even for being enemy.

If you want, you can choose other country.
And I suggest you read this topic first.

Sorry, I thought operate ment The Font you was to Invasion in.

I am coming from my Province of Italy (in the Earth IV thing if you like to know.)
Kopparbergs
13-09-2004, 03:10
After the terrible shock when the Latvians stroke back, the front were beginning to moving forward again. It moved slowly forward due to Latvian planes and tanks here and there, but no more massive strike were done against Kopparbergs. At least not yet. Maybe the Latvians were so up to keep the city of Põlva (that Kopparbergs must let go when the first strike came). It takes big amout of troops and tanks to keep a city, and Kopparbergs did not prioritize Põlva so we let it go to the Latvians.

Updated map here (http://peter.korkala.se/kingdom/estoniawar7.gif) (Note my navy outside Liepãja.)
Kopparbergs
13-09-2004, 03:27
Ships that were located in the Gulf of Finland began to move westwards. They were about to join the other ships outside the Latvian coast. In 10 hours they will be in place.
The Supreme Commander has ordered 2 Iowa class cruisers and 2 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers from St. Petersburg to joint the 34 Brandenburger class Frigates that's already in place outside Latvia. The 2 Arleigh Burke that already were in the Gulf of Finland also joined. Under the surface, 5 more Kilo class submarines were heading westwards.

When they arrive, the total Kopparberg Karelian Navy outside Latvia will be:
34 Brandenbruger class Frigates
4 Arleigh Burke class Destroyers
2 Iowa class Cruisers
6 Kilo class submarines

The Navy will be located at international water, not in Latvian waters.
Kopparbergs
13-09-2004, 03:43
In St. Petersburg there were riots against the war again. This time no one was killed though.
When the reports from the front reached the public (of course partly censored by the government) about the attack by the Latvians and Kopparbergs Karelian massive losses, the riots calmed down. The public felt like we were the ones who should be felt sorry for, and the opinion were beginning to turn around. They felt that we must strike back and defend ourselfes (even when we are in occupied territory).

The Supreme commander and the King was discussion the situation:

"You're the proffessional here, I'm only in charge here." said King Carl Gustav and laughed. "What should we do?"

"The people think that we must strike back at the Latvians. But I'm split about that. If we do strike back, we have to handle the Pskovs and the Norwegians. But if we don't... well... Maybe the opinion may turn around again, and the people starts to dislike the war again. And that I don't want."

"A total mess" said the King. "Well, we wait until tomorrow before we decide how to do. Maybe we can strike back at the front instead of attacking the Latvian country."
Nireva
13-09-2004, 13:59
Nireva - HQ.

"We're running out of time! We need to attack Tartu now! Send the damn forces.. Give them whatever they want! Expect bombardment.."
"This is HQ to all companys around Tartu, go go go!"

All forces moved, and it was bloody conflict.

Nireva - Battlefield near Tartu.

"Sir..!"
"He's dead!"
"This is 5, taking command, I repeat, taking command!"
"Someone take left flank!"
"Need LAW's!"
"That's end of that tank!"
"Good job. Shit! ADAD!"
"This is Gripen one. I see it."

Minute later destroyed F-16 fell. Right into Tartu.

7 hours later, Tartu was wholly cleared, and all around Tartu were dead soldiers, destroyed tanks, APC's, helicopters & fighters.

"Shit.."
"All those people.. I.. Knew many of them.."
"Me too.."
"I hate war.. I hate damn war.."
"This is HQ - Great job, all. Within 9 hours, there's Latvian reinforcements incoming. If they don't turn back. And, report the losses from there."
"Yes.. Sir."

Ooc.
Losses, Nireva: 147,518 dead, 57,267 wounded, 672 critical. 16 missing.
1,681 tanks destroyed, 5,177 APC's, 7 Crotales, 12 Apaches, 126 Gripens.
Estonia: 98,237 dead, 20,126 wounded, 1,250 missing, 10,325 surrendered.
78 tanks destroyed. 18 APC's. 2 Apaches.
Latvia: 308 Gripens, 527 dead, 7 surrendered, 1 missing.

One thing, that sea is pretty small, so no much Navy there. I don't have any navy there [Expect some submarines.]

Map (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar7.gif)
Hataria
14-09-2004, 03:01
The Forces hataria is sending.

15 PacificaClass Destroyers
6 Golden Queen Galaxia Class Air Craft Carriers
4 Neherenia Class Battleships

340,000 Troops.

I hope you like the help.
Nireva
14-09-2004, 07:10
The Forces hataria is sending.

15 PacificaClass Destroyers
6 Golden Queen Galaxia Class Air Craft Carriers
4 Neherenia Class Battleships

340,000 Troops.

I hope you like the help.

Ooc.
Those ships to Gulf of Finland? No way. They're way too big!
Think about it. Gulf of Finland is quite small. So, I can only ignore those, becose any coast defence could destroy them easily.
If you could even get them to there.
So. Do not use naval forces in this one.
Expect some for transport & some small submarines.
Nireva
14-09-2004, 19:27
Nireva - HQ

"Alarm the people of Tartu. Tanks are incoming. And planes."
"Yes, sir."
"How many people are there currently?"
"Umm.. 95,199."
"That few?"
"Yes. But they've fortified Tartu. And 100,000 troops are going to there."
"Good. But. Send Gripens to attack Latvian forces."
"Yes, sir."

21 minutes later.
Nireva - In Gripen.

"This is Gripen one. I see them on radar. Prepare to attack."
"Understood."
"I see F-16. Don't think its ours?"
"Not ours. Destroy it."
"Shit.. More of them. At least 7."
"I can see 23 more on radar."
"Shit. Open fire."
"I'm hit! I'm hit! AA destroyed, but I'm going down!"
"Eject, Gripen 7!"
"Under fire!"
"Shoot back! Shoot back!"
"They're overpowered!"
"This is HQ, we can see 30 more F-16's incoming. Retreat."
"You heard it!"

After that small airbattle, Nireva lost 4 Gripens.
Estonia lost one AA & 1 F-16.

1 hour later.
Nireva - Tartu.

"They're here!"
"Stay tight! Hold positions!"
"Yes, sir!"
"Johanson.. Dead.. No.."
"Shoot them! Revenge!"
"Sir, yes sir!"
"F-16's! Take them out!"
"Bravo, where are you?"
"2 kilometers to North."
"Charlie?"
"1 kilometer to East."
"Charlie. Flank them. Bravo, get here as fast as you can. Gripens, come to take AA's & F-16's."
"Roger that, ETA 1 minute."
"Sir.. How many Gripens we have?"
"100."
"Yes, sir.. They're leaving us after doing their part?"
"Yes. But we get Apaches then."
"Oh. Good."
"Major."
"Yes, sir?"
"Can you hold positions without Apaches?"
"Not for long.."
"Shit. Repair that radio!"
"What? We're cut off?"
"For while."

After a minute, F-16's & Gripens started falling. Couple of AA's was destroyed.

"Sir! We cannot hold for long!"
"Gripens already left!"
"I'm near it.. Got! Apaches, get here now!"
"Roger that."
"Charlie? Hello..? Anyone?"
"Charlie's down.."
"Bravo?"
"Yes?"
"We're already here.."
"Okay."
"Wee! Apaches!"

15 minutes later, all tanks were destroyed, or uncapable to work. Many Latvians surrendered. But, many Nirevans lost their lives.
Main reinforcements, 98,000 troops came. But too late to do anything, but take POWs.

Nireva - HQ.

"Got losses?"
"Yes, sir. 94,415 dead. 151 wounded. 0 Critical. Nobody's missing."
"Get them to president."

Latvia - HQ.

"What?!"
"Yes. Our forces was defeated."
"Shit.. BOMBARD THAT CITY NOW!"
"With B-52's?"
"Of course!"

Nireva - Parliament

Send this message to Latvia:

From: Nireva - Helsinki.
To: Latvia - Riga.
Subject: War of Estonia.

Message: If you keep sending forces, we have no other choice than attack Riga.
You know we will. And I do know what Norway will do to me.
And Pskov to Kopparbergs, if he helps me.
But. I do know I can win Norway. You know that too.

Don't be stupid.

...
End of message.

Ooc. No changes to the map, as Nireva just destroyed Latvian attack to Tartu. With really heavy losses.
Kopparbergs
15-09-2004, 04:44
OOC: I'm sorry, but I'm really short on time now. I couldn't post yesterday and I don't know if I be able to post today, but I will as soon as I get the time.

Just think that my troops in Estonia holds their positions and waits for new orders from St. Petersburg.
Nireva
15-09-2004, 18:32
Ooc. I'm busy too. So I'm not gonna RP now..
Maybe tomorrow morning. If no, later tomorrow.
Nireva
16-09-2004, 14:03
Ooc. Something small now.

Latvia - Parliament.

"What? Our Tartu-forces destroyed?"
"Yes. That's right.."
"Oh shit.. How?"
"Nirevan knew we are coming. They invaded Tartu as fast as they could."
"Hate them.. We need to fall back from there. I'll get a line what we defend with 2 million soldiers."
"2.. Million?"
"Yes. Two million."
"What?! You were supposed to invade Estonia back!" Estonian president came and talked.
"Supposed. But, seems like we cannot do it. Yet."
"Go to-"
"Shut up."

I made fast addon to map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar7Latvian_line.GIF)
Nireva
16-09-2004, 16:55
Nireva - Field.

"Sir.. It's been real quiet.."
"Yes, I know.. I smell an ambush."
"Yeah.."
"This is 2nd Company. Multiple enemys. Taking heavy fire! Around Põlva! "
"This is HQ, your job. Go! "
"Yes, sir.."

23 minutes later, they were there.

"You came!"
"Yes, we came."
"We pushed them back. But. Latvians have a base in Põlva."
"Thought so. As Kopparbergs lost it."
"Yeah."

Resistance - Jõgeva

"It's time to go."
"I know I know."
"Okay. Lets go!"

1,500 resistance men & women attacked city of Jõgeva. And took it under their control, as not many Nirevans were there.

Nireva - HQ.

"Sir! We've lost Jõgeva!"
"Jõgeva? What the?"
"Resistance.."
"Take them out NOW."
"Yes, sir.."
"And, invade those 2 islands."
"I'll send Learjets now."
"Good."

5,000 men prepared outside Jõgeva.


The other island, was not guarded. Not with any men. Anyway. One injured himself there.

Other island, was heavily defended in Kuressaare, otherway, empty.


Total losses:
Nireva: 4,101 dead. 16 missing.
Latvia: 5,155 dead. 14 surrendered.
Estonia: 1,452 dead. 56 surrendered.
Resistance: 1,031 dead.

Updated map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar8.GIF)
Nireva
17-09-2004, 16:04
Nireva - HQ.

"Sir. Our forces is ready outside Jõgeva."
"Good. Let them have it."

Nireva - Field, Near Jõgeva.

"We have a job to do. Go!"
"Go go go!"

Resistance - Jõgeva.

"They're coming..! They're coming!"
"Many!"
"Shit." We can hold our positions in bank.. "Go to bank! We can hold our positions there!"
"Okay, buddy."
"Just go!"

15 minutes later conflict was over, Nirevan have a circle around City Bank, and Resistance is trapped inside.

"You have 15 minutes to come out with hands above your head. If you do not come, we will come and shoot you."

Resistance didn't come.
After 15 minutes, Nireva sent 50 men to clear it.
2 minutes later, all Nirevans in bank were dead.

"Okay. You want this, we will detonate the bank, and kill you."
"No!"
"Then, come out."
"We will not."
"Then we have to do it."
"You don't have permission to that. I know!"
"Yes, we do."
Shit.. Do they really have? Resistance leader thought.

Nireva - HQ.

"Our companys reports that they can easily move.. Like.. Latvians would escaped. Expect is Põlva which is under Latvian control. ANd Viljandi & Pärnu are in Estonian, and, or Resistance's control."
"Okay. Let them reach the borders. And make circle around those cityes."
"Yes, sir."

The Map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar9.GIF)
Nireva
18-09-2004, 09:18
Nireva - HQ.

"Do we give permission to destroy that bank, general?"
"We must.."
"Okay.."

Nireva - Field. Jõgeva.

"You have 5 minutes to come."
"Do you think they come?"
"No."

In bank:

"Do we go?"
"I won't stop you.. Go if you want."
"Do they have permission?"
I don't know."

100 of 235 men leaved.

Outside:

"Is the bank empty now?"
".."
"SAY!"
".."
"SAY OR I WILL KILL YOU."
"No. There are not."
"Okay. If you lied, I will kill you. First team, go."
35 men entered. Within a minute. All killed.

"You lied."
And sergeant shot to POW's foot. Then to arm. And third shot to heart.
5 minutes later the explosives were ready.

"Do it."
Boom.

"Rest in peace, my friends.." one of POWs said.

Nireva - Gulf of Finland.

"Sir! Detecting one submarine."
"Guess it's the last. It has noticed us?"
"I don't think so."
"Get 1st & 2nd tube ready."
"Yes, sir."

Minute later.

"Fire."

Estonia - Gulf of Finland.

"Sir! Torpedo has been launched against us!"
"Shit! Countermeasures!"
"Already launched them."

1st torpedo lost the path.
2nd hit.

Nireva - Gulf of Finland.

"Sir. We destroyed it."
"Good."

Nireva - Kuressaare.

"Go!"
5,000 men attacked.

"Damn. Six is down."
"Damn. Keep going!"
"I got one!"
"This is Apache 1. Launching airstrike."

21 minutes later, all resistance was either dead or POW.

Nireva - Parliament.

"Sir. We've getting too much POWs."
"Get new camp for them."
"Yes. Where?"
"Hm.. Haapsalu."
"Yes, sir."
"And keep 100,000 men there."
"Yes, sir."
"And prepare 200,000 men to attack citys of Rapla & Viljandi from south, east, west & north."
"From all directions 200,000? Or total of 200,000?"
"From all directions."
"Thats.. Much."
"I know. But I want Estonia down now."
"We need then take three million soldiers more from here."
"Then, transport them to Estonia!"
"Yes, sir.. By the way, we're thinking the last Estonian submarine has been destroyed."
"Good."

Ooc.
Total losses:
Nireva: 1961 dead.
Estonia: 5 dead.
Resistance: 2519 dead. 961 POW.

And Kopparbergs. Either you've forgot this, or you're real busy.

Only changes to map is that Jõgeva is under Nirevan control, and Kuressaare too.
And red spot in Gulf of Finland disappeared. :p
Nireva
18-09-2004, 12:24
Ooc. Speeded the troop gathering.

Ic.
Nireva - Parliament

"Sir. Troops are ready around Pärnu & Viljandi."
"Send them."
"Yes sir."

Nireva - HQ.

"The president really wants us to attack cityes without bombarding them first?!"
"Seems like that.."
"Shit.. We're taking heavy casualties.."
"Maybe.."
"Shit.."
"Well. Send Mi-8's when AA's destroyed, let them land on top of buildings. Should be good attack. 50,000 troops for that. 25,000 to both cityes."
"25,000? Thats.. Much."
"I know."

Nireva - Field. [Pärnu]

"Go!"
"What? There's no bombardment!"
"I know that!"
"Sir!"
"Private. GO NOW OR I WILL SHOOT YOU!"
"What?! This is insane!"
"Five.."
"Sir! This i-"
"Four.."
"Shit.."

All the forces left.. From all directions.

Also, soldiers from Viljandi left.

"Lieteunant's dead!"
"Shit. This is Sergeant Mäenpää, taking command."
"Yes, sir."
"Go go go!"
"Enemy on the left!"
"This is South. We're taking heavy machinegunfire. We cannot keep going."
"This is HQ; Roger that, South, we're sending Apaches."
"Thank you, HQ"
"This is North. We're in center of city. We're taking heavy fire from windows. Send the Mi's now!"
"This is HQ, Mi's on the way. ETA 1 minutes"
"Good job, HQ.."
"Sir! 12th company's down!"
"Any people left?"
"I don't think so!"
"Shit!"
"This is South, Apaches were shot down. We're falling back. We cannot hold our positions."
"This is HQ. What? You've all reported that all AA's were shot down!"
"They are, but Estonians have Stingers.."
"Shit. We're calling our Mi's back. Sorry guys, try to get buildings under your control. How's your tank support?"
"This is 29th Armored Company. We've lost all of our tanks. This is Colonel Hakala, I'm one of last survivors."
"Get 44th Support Company out there. And rescue them. We're retreating."
"Retreating?"
"Yes."

24 minutes later, colonel Hakala was rescued, and all of Nirevan people retreat out of Pärnu.

But, Nirevan forces got Viljandi under control. It was much easier.

Nireva - HQ.

"How the hell we did not won battle of Pärnu?!"
"I.. Don't know sir.. There was.. Just.. Many people."
"Special forces.."
"Guess so.. And it was like they were overpowered.."
"They couldn't be."
"Yeah."

Next call was made when Nireva attacked cityes. Talkers are leaders of Pärnu & Viljandi.

"They're attacking."
"There too?"
"Yes."
"Can you hold?"
"No. You have the special forces."
"I know."
"Should we surrender?"
"No. Kill as many Nirevans as you can."
"Okay.

Shit."
"What?"
"They're here."
"What?! This fast!?"
"Yes."
"Okay. Bye. Rest in peace. I'm sure they'll kill you."
"Yeah.. Good bye. Kill them."
"I will."
"Drop the phone! Hands above your head! Now!"
Tuut.. Tuut..

Ooc. Losses:

Nireva: 652,167 dead. 12,518 wounded. 1,126 surrendered. 15,102 missing.
Estonia: 256,211 dead. 1,215 wounded. 12,215 surrendered. 51,121 missing.
Resistance: -
Latvia: 13,156 dead. 12,135 wounded. 0 surrendered. 12 missing.
Nireva
19-09-2004, 15:22
Nireva - HQ.

"Get one million troops to attack that damn city.."
"Million?"
"Yes."
"This time we bombard?"
"No. They have less forces now."
"Still!"
"NO WE DO NOT BOMBARD!"
"Yes, sir.."

500,000 troops prepared in North.
250,000 troops prepared in South.
150,000 troops prepared in East.
100,000 troops prepared in West.

Estonia - Pärnu.

"Sir.. If they attack.. We cannot hold them.."
"I know. But we fight to the last man.."
"Yes.. But.."
"We hide inside buildings."
"Yes, sir.."
"Do we have Stingers left?"
"Just 4."
"Shit."

Latvia - HQ.

"Call back our forces."
"What?"
"Call them back."
"Even from Põlva?"
"No. Not there. And leave a way that they can evacuate, if it's needed."
"Yes, sir."

There are 250,000 Latvian men in Põlva. [I know I know, it's much]
Nireva
20-09-2004, 19:14
Ooc.

You must be real busy?
I'm too. Biologytest tomorrow.. I think I should read to it..
So. Well. No IC today. Hopefully tomorrow. :)
My troops will hold their positions. And prepare the attack to Pärnu.
Nireva
21-09-2004, 17:02
Nireva - HQ.

"Sir.. Our forces are ready outside Pärnu.."
"Roger. Send them."

Nireva - Field [Pärnu]

"We got order. Lets go."
"Yes, sir.."

So troops moved to Pärnu. It was easy, as Estonian didn't have too much morale [Spell?] left. Most of them surrendered.

Hour later.

Nireva - Parliament.

"Sir. Pärnu has been defeated."
"Great job."
"And, losses are here: 12,151 dead. Estonians mostly surrendered. So we got 51,215 POWs.. Where we should transfer them?"
"Ask from general."
"Roger."

"General!"
"Yes, colonel?"
"Say Multanen.."
"Okay, Multanen."
"Where we should transfer our POWs? There are many of them."
"Um.. Tartu?"
"Tartu?"
"Why not?"
"I'd suggest Tapa.."
"Hm.. Good idea."
"So we transfer them to Tapa?"
"Yes. All of them."
"Ok. We'll build detention camps to there."
"And place 1.5 million units near there."
"Roger."

Ooc. The map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar12.GIF)
Kopparbergs
23-09-2004, 04:33
OOC: Sorry, but due to lack of time (RL) I feel that I don’t have the time to participate in this role play so much anymore… It has been loads of fun though! Hope that we will meet in another role play onwards.

IC:
[Supreme commanders office. The Supreme commander and the King is discussing how to continue the war.]

”I think that we should withdraw all of our troops in Estonia.” says the supreme commander.

”What?!? Why?” asks the king.

”Well. It’s the only thing to do in such a situation. We must decide if we should continue to move forward and cross the Latvian borders or if we should retreat because of the threat from the Pskovs, the Norwegians and the Latvians. Really, if they all should attack our mainland, we would have big problems defending us.”

”Hmm… OK, I see your point there. But really, how big chance is it that they all should come for us?”

”Well, the chance may not be so big, but are we willing to risk many million of Karelian lifes? For what?”

”We should get a bit of the Estonian land when the war is over. Nireva has promised that to us.”

”Yes, if we win the war. But what if the Pskovs takes land from us?”

”Hmm… But I don’t think that they can win…”

“I’m the military expert here, sir. You told me that earlier… I say that we should withdraw!”

“Hmm… Can we just wait a couple of days and se what Nireva says about this?”

“To be honest, Nireva really has nothing to do with this. It’s our mainland that they will attack!”

“But they said that they should attack Nireva too!”

“Yes, therefore he will defend himself and we will defend ourselves. And I think that we don’t have enough military power to defend ourselves in such a situation. Can you get that?!?” The supreme commander began to loose his temper.

“Okay, okay… But we must wait a couple of days before the retreat. Nireva must be able to secure the land area that we have in control.”

“Ok, that’s fair. I agree to that.”

OOC: I will not disappear completely from this, I just must adjust my role play amount to the amount of time I have…:)
Nireva
24-09-2004, 12:43
Ooc. I've been really busy too.

Ic.

Nireva - Parliament.

"President!"
"What?"
"Kopparbergs are leaving this for us..!"
"What?!"
"That's what they sent!"
"Joke?!"
"I don't think so.. They gave couple of days to get troops to their positions."
"Okay.. Get our troops there.."
"Sir.. What we are gonna do?"
"Guess we'll take Estonia. I think it's too hard to attack Latvia too. Now that Pskov & Norway will attack us.."
"Yes, sir."
"Get 500,000 troops to re-take Põlva. Get them ready."
"Roger."

Ooc. The map (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/estoniawar13.GIF)
As you can see, Estonia is under Nirevan & Kopparbergs control. Expect is Põlva.
And Nireva is taking positions in Kopparbergs positions.
Nireva
24-09-2004, 18:46
Nireva - Field [Põlva]:

"Attaaaack! Now!"
"One! Two! Cover the flanks!"
"Roger!"
"Keep going!"
"This is Bird Nest, say when ready."
"Roger that, Bird Nest."
"This is Papa Bear. Say when ready."
"Roger that, Papa Bear."
"This is Delta One. Say when reached."
"We'll say."
"Keep going!"
"I've got one!"
"BMP-2!"
"Three! Take it out now!"
"Roger.. Got it!"
"Hakala! Stay in line!"
"Yes, lieteunant!"

Nireva - Field [Põlva].

Nirevan Special Forces moved from South, containing 8 soldiers.
[They are really elites]

Leader: Colonel Moilanen.
Co-Leader: Major Kari.
Lieteunant Multanen.
Lieteunant Hyytiäinen.
Lieteunant Sukula.
Lieteunant Saari.
Lieteunant Kovalainen.
Lieteunant Virtanen.

"Okay. Listen up."
"Yes, sir."
"We need to take over that place."
"Yeah.. Should be easy."
"I wouldn't say that, Hyytiäinen. As.. It's Latvian last base. I guess they'll try to hold."
"Still."
"But. We'll wait until we get order from field."
"Thought so. Why they get all the fun?"
"Oh shut up, Saari."
"Roger that.. Sir."
"Don't call me sir. We're friends."
"Yeah.."
"This is Assault. Go!"
"We got the order. Lets go. We got job to do." Moilanen said, and started moving to city.

They went easily first 100 meters in city. Then Latvians noticed them.

"Hit the.. Pavement!"
"Keep shooting!"
"Come on.. Come on.. I'll do it quickly.."
"Oh! Shut up Hyytiäinen!"
"Oh! Shit! They got leader!"
"What!? Oh shit.. Kari, take the lead."
"Taking lead.. Multanen, cover the left flank. Hyytiäinen; Right flank."
"Roger."
"Saari, Sukula, advance!"
"Already doing."

15 minutes later, NSF reached their objective. Latvian Estonia-HQ.
Not much resistance was there, becose of Nirevans attacks around the city.

"Ssh."
"Got flashbangs?"
"Sure we do.."
"Okay. Quiet then. Silencers now."
"Hm.. Where here they are?"
"Ssh. I'm looking for them."
"Third room.. Something. Sixth. There's something too. Others are empty."
"How we get it?"
"Multanen, Hyytiäinen, Sukula, take the third room."
"Roger."
"I, Saari and Kovalainen will take the sixth, Virtanen, cover our back."
"Roger."

"Now."

Both teams kicked the doors open, and rushed in.

Kovalainen & Kari got shot in sixth room, as Latvian soldiers shot them, and paid it with their lives.
Third room didn't have soldiers ready, and they were captured quickly.

"Hey. Someone's coming.."
"Shit.. Try hold your positions."
"Assault, how long you'll take?"
"One.. Maybe two hours. They have those damn soldiers inside buildings"
"Roger.. We might have problems here."
"Hey. Wait a minute.. I got an idea."
"Like you always do, Multanen.."
"Yeah."
"General. You want to be alive longer?"
"Sure.. Sure I do.."
"Then. Order your men to surrender."
"What? I.. I will never do that!"
"Then.. We have to kill you."
"Okayokay. I'll do it. But. Then you'll do no harm to me, and let me go to Latvia back."
"Hm.. Okay."
"Okay. Thanks.. Thank you really much."


So the Latvian general ordered his men to surrender.
And most of them did.

Nirevans got Põlva under control.
And as Latvians heard the loss of Põlva, they fell back inside their own borders.

5 days later, Nirevans controlled all parts of Estonia.

---------

"Breaking news! Our great soldiers, great Nirevans have conquered the Estonia! There are some conflicts inside citys, terrorism. But it is totally under our control."

Ooc:
Losses:

Nireva: 127,215 dead. 14,122 wounded. 5 missing.
Estonia: 1,141 dead. 5 wounded. 5,131 surrendered.
Latvia: 121,211 dead. 1,161 wounded. 21,440 missing. 124,121 surrendered.

Ic.

Nireva - HQ.

"So. Lieteunant Multanen. It was your idea to put general talking?"
"Yes, sir, it was."
"Okay.."
"It was wrong?"
"No.. By the way. Would you like to take Delta One under your control?"
"Sir? Serious?"
"Yes."
"I.. I really want."
"Lieteunant Miia Multanen. Congratulations, I promote you to colonel, and, you're now leader of Delta One."
"Thank you, sir."
"And. President maybe gives you some medals."
"Maybe."

Ooc. The map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/EstoniaConquered.GIF)
Changed colors too.. :p
Nireva
25-09-2004, 11:38
Nireva - Parliament:

"President..?"
"Yes?"
"Do we proceed to Latvia..?"
"What you think about it?"
"Well.. I think no.. Becose Pskov & Norway would attack us.. And Latvia, of course.."
"Yes.. We need allies into this one."
"So. We won't proceed?"
"No. Keep guarding borders."
"Roger."

Latvia - Parliament:

"President?"
"Yes?"
"Do we re-attack Nireva?"
"No."
"Okay."
"But send a message, about if they attack us, we will use all our military power, and let them remember that we have allies in this one."
"Okay."

From: Latvia - Parliament.
To: Nireva - Parliament.
Subject: If you attack..

Message: As we moved into Estonian soil, you pushed us back..
We will not re-attack against you. Unless you attack here.
If you do that, we, Latvia, Pskov & Norway will conquer you.
Hopefully we are clear in that one.

...
End of message.
Kopparbergs
25-09-2004, 14:06
When all Kopparbergs troops was replaced by Nirevan troops, the withdraw began. In a couple of days all troops were back in Kopparbergs and were welcomed as war-heroes.

[Telegram to Nireva from King Carl Gustaf XX]
We're sorry that we couldn't continue across the Latvian borders. But we had some things to handle that was more important for our country.
In the beginning of the war we talked about getting a bit of Estonia when the war was over. You can forget that, we do not need more land. You can take the whole country of Estonia.


The King: "Take us down to Defcon 3. Kopparbergs is not any longer at war!"
Nireva
25-09-2004, 16:38
From: Nireva - Parliament.
To: Kopparbegs - Parliament.
Subject: Withdraw.

Message: That's ok. We are not sure ourselves, about do we attack Latvia.
As Pskov & Norway would attack against our mainland.
Well.. At least Norway would attack our mainland.
But we will see, do we attack to there.
If they seem to be any offensive.. I have no choice but to attack.

...
End of message.

Nirevan troops hold their positions, waiting for orders. Latvian forces was just after the borders.
Many Nirevans saw Latvian soldiers.. On their side of border.
Nireva
26-09-2004, 13:28
Latvia - Field [Nirevan side of border.]:

"Go. We cannot be spotted."
"Yes, sir."
"Go go go."
"Detonates set."
"Okay, lets get out of here. Blow them when you're ready."
"Yes, sir."

2 minutes later, fuel tank was destroyed.

"Good job, now get out of here."
"Shit! I think they spotted me!"
"No! They cannot do that! Get out! Are you there.. Hello? Anyone..?"
"Sir! He's.. Latvian.. Report to HQ"
"Shit.."

Latvia - HQ:

"Shit.. Shit! Our mission was failed. One of our men was spotted and killed. And Nirevans knew it was us.."
"Shit.."
"Any ideas?"
"Hm.. How about.. If we say it was terrorist..?"
"We'll try that. But I don't think it'll work.."

To: Nireva - Parliament.
From: Latvia - Parliament.
Subject: Destroyed Fuel Tank.

Message: We know that you think it was us.
But we did not attack your base. We wouldn't dare to do that.
And I think you know that, but it was terrorists,
and we're trying to find who stole uniforms.
But, we are sorry, if you lost any men, and sorry for losing fuel.
But please, do not attack us. Terrorists win, if you do..

...
End of message.
Inkana
26-09-2004, 13:40
May I join? I'd like to be sweden!
Nireva
26-09-2004, 13:55
May I join? I'd like to be sweden!

And your side..?

Latvia +others [Under my RP], or on my side?
Inkana
26-09-2004, 13:56
Yours.
Nireva
26-09-2004, 14:10
Yours.

Ooc.
Feel free to join. :)
Just don't godmod.
And no Navy to attack Latvia/Pskov. Sea is too small in there.

And please, read the posts, so you know what's going on.
Inkana
26-09-2004, 14:23
"King Charles!" Shouted Grand Marshall Korchinava, racing down the hall of King Charles' manor
"Hm? What is it?"
"It's...finland" Korchinava panted
"What about them?"
"They would like our assistance in the invasion of Latvia and Estonia"
"Hm..."The king looked outside, his courtyard was beautiful.
"Alright, send in One Army, and 4 Gripen Wings, and 2 Viggen Attack wings, if you need any more, just ask me."
'Yes, your majesty!"

The Day after:
Cargo ships of the Royal Swedish Navy started landing troops, equipment and supplies on Finnish secured beaches. S-103 tanks tolled out, their 105mm guns glistening, Ch-46 Chinhooks dropped artillery, wepons, food, ammunition, etc. Up in the air you could see numerous aicraft flying towards Finnish bases.
Inkana
26-09-2004, 14:41
6PM-Day of initial landing

"Just our luck"remorsed Private O'Haggian, out on a patrol with his platoon
"We come into the show right when its ending! I doubt we'll ever get any con-
*Crack*
"What was that?"

It was a gunshot, soon the entire forest erupted with gunfire, it was a latvian ambush!

"Hit the dirt! Get the pig over here, lay some support fire!"

The Soldiers were soon firing back with their S8s, swedish version of the M-16, their machine gunner was laying covering fire while they waited for reinforcements.

"Mooch! Perez! Grab that ammo!"Shouted Platoon sergent Kretchne

Soon the sound of helicopter blades were heard, and 2 other Platoons arrived, charging with bayonets they manenged to drive the Latvians-probably a full batallion- out of their positions.

"That was--a day"
"That was a day and a half"
Nireva
26-09-2004, 16:55
Nireva - HQ:

"So.. Latvians did attack us. Prepare our forces moving."
"Roger that.."
"And, get two million troops to Northern Finland. I guess Norway comes from there, when we cross the damn line."
"Yeah.."

Nireva - Field [Near Border]:

"This is HQ. You have permission to go over the line.. We're invading Latvia too."
"Damn.. Open fire!"

Soon, along the border, was only gunfiring from other side to another.
It was trench warfare.

Nireva - Parliament:

"Who gave permission to start shooting Latvians!?"
"They came to OUR side of border."
"Yes! But still!"
"It's done."
"General. Get out of here. You are ex-general. Got it?"
"Understood, sir."
"Go!"

Latvia - Parliament:

"Do you think Pskov & Norway gives their helping hands for us?"
"I.. Don't know. Hope they do.. We have no chances against Nireva & Inkana.."
"Yeah.."

Pskov - Parliament:

"Send our forces."
"Sir?"
"Send them. Now."
"Sir, yes sir!"

Norway - King's Palace:

"Send the forces."
"Inkana or Nireva?"
"Nireva."
"Sir, yes sir!"

Nireva - Parliament:

"Shit! Get our troops from Sodankylä, Kemijärvi, Oulu & Ranua to defend Lappland! Joensuu, Jyväskylä, Mikkeli & Savonlinna to defend areas that Pskov attacked! Helsinki, Tampere, Turku to attack Latvia. And others where troops are needed!"
"Roger.."
"Damn full-scale war.."
"Yeah."

First day casualties:

Nireva [Finland]: 1,125,131 dead. 611,124 wounded. 1,251 missing.
Pskov: 411,124 dead. 41,124 wounded. 215 missing.
Norway: 215,932 dead. 51,125 wounded. 161 missing.
Latvia: 512,612 dead. 112,141 wounded. 1,511 missing.


Ooc.
So you didn't read the posts.. Otherwise you'd know that I already conquered Estonia. Now it's time to Latvia.

By the way: Map that shows Latvian, Pskov & Norways movements. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/Movements.GIF)
Inkana
26-09-2004, 17:12
1st day casulties-Sweden
216 dead, 600 wounded, 3 missing
Inkana
26-09-2004, 17:23
Mind giving me a recap?
Nireva
26-09-2004, 17:26
Mind giving me a recap?

Ooc. Recap?
But now I'm going to play floorball. :)
So no RP now..
Inkana
26-09-2004, 20:42
Ooc. Recap?
But now I'm going to play floorball. :)
So no RP now..
Yes, a summary of the war. I don't feel like reading 5 pages..
Nireva
26-09-2004, 21:09
Yes, a summary of the war. I don't feel like reading 5 pages..

Ooc.
There are just 3 pages.. :rolleyes:
Well. Pskov & Norway sent a message to attackers, that they would attack against attackers, if they cross Latvian borders.
Norway would probably attack mainland, Pskov Estonia [Area under our control].

Kopparbergs might give something small support for us, but I'm not sure about that.

But mostly, I was just making attack against Latvia, when you asked to join into war, so you just made things go bit faster, by fighing inside forrest. :p

Estonia is fully under our control, but no parts in Latvia, yet. Either Norway or Pskov. As their forces are still moving near our [Well, mostly mine] forces.

And, at least check the maps, the two last ones which shows Movements & current map [Read.. About 2 last posts end, there should be link].. :)

Anything else?

But now I'm going to sleep. Good night. :)
Inkana
26-09-2004, 21:19
Thank you and good night. :)

After the many ambushes of the day, the swedish soldiers of the 44th 'Royal Braggarts' Batallion settled down on a camp near the Latvian Border.
"Well, you did good out there boys"
"Thank you, sir"
POP
"-what was that?"
POP, POP, POP
"Mortars! Into your foxholes!"
As the soldiers hustled into their foxholes, they spent an uneasy night under seige. They called in napalm, arty support, air strikes, but the latvians just kept popping back up.
Nireva
27-09-2004, 13:44
Nireva - HQ:

"Damn. We're under heavy attacks all around borders. Estonia is becoming a full war-zone! Latvians & Pskov are heavily proceeding! We have problems in there, becose many of our troops are defending Lappland.."
"Yes, I know that.
How we are holding our positions against Norway?"
"Easily. No problems against them."
"Good. Proceed North, and take some land, port that faces Arctic Ocean."
"Roger."
"And if they won't surrender then, we keep proceeding."
"Yes, sir. And.. We've lost that small island near Estonia."
"Shit. Make full bombardment there."
"Roger.."
"And for Arctic Ocean, use our Yorktown Carriers, and other ships to bombard, if bombardment is needed."
"Yes, sir."

Ooc.
Updated map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/War1.GIF)
Colours are same, expect;
White = Controlled by no one [So, that's a damn war-zone.].
Nireva
27-09-2004, 18:08
Nireva - HQ:

"Shit.. It's.. Hard to hold positions.."
"I guess it is.."
"In Norway, everything goes well."
"One good thing."
"Yeah.."

Norway - HQ:

"What!? We cannot take Finland?!"
"Sir.. Yes.. They're proceeding into our soil!"
"Oh shit..! Try to make peace?"
"Yes, sir.."

23 minutes later

"What they want?"
"Land from their border to Arctic Ocean.."
"Shit.. We cannot give that."
"Yeah."

Ooc.

Bit more land lossed to Latvia & Pskov.
No map updates now.. :rolleyes:

2nd Day Losses:
Nireva: 1,120,124 dead, 12,215 wounded. 4,121 missing.
Norway: 414,124 dead, 1,125 wounded, 2,124 missing.
Pskov: 212,120 dead. 512 wounded. 913 missing.
Latvia: 592,145 dead. 1,512 wounded. 3,124 missing.
Warta Endor
27-09-2004, 18:45
Ooc. Recap?
But now I'm going to play floorball. :)
So no RP now..

Floorball :D :D rocks!!!!
Warta Endor
27-09-2004, 18:50
Could I join as Schleswig -Holstein, Lower Saxony, Hamburg, Brandenburg and West Pomerania?? your side if possible.
Inkana
27-09-2004, 23:56
"King Charles"
"What is it now?!"
"Permission to send men into norway!"
"Sure, it is a former swedish posession."

Gripens raced through the darkness, their destination:Oslo.
They reached the sky above the city, they started their bombing run, well dive-bombing run. They rained down death and destruction....bombs also, on the Norwegian capital. At this same time armoured divisions were smashing through Norwegian defenses followed by mobolized infantry to mop up. As the bombing ended the tanks made their way to the Oslo outskirts (7 miles away from the city. They brought in Bofers 155mm howitzers to bombard the city. They issues an ultimanium to the Norwwegian goverment.
"Surrender all your arms, and yourcity in 24 hours, or you will be crushed."

Casulties: 2nd day
46,784 Dead, 138,327 wounded, 270 missing.
Nireva
28-09-2004, 07:31
"King Charles"
"What is it now?!"
"Permission to send men into norway!"
"Sure, it is a former swedish posession."

Gripens raced through the darkness, their destination:Oslo.
They reached the sky above the city, they started their bombing run, well dive-bombing run. They rained down death and destruction....bombs also, on the Norwegian capital. At this same time armoured divisions were smashing through Norwegian defenses followed by mobolized infantry to mop up. As the bombing ended the tanks made their way to the Oslo outskirts (7 miles away from the city. They brought in Bofers 155mm howitzers to bombard the city. They issues an ultimanium to the Norwwegian goverment.
"Surrender all your arms, and yourcity in 24 hours, or you will be crushed."

Casulties: 2nd day
46,784 Dead, 138,327 wounded, 270 missing.

Ooc.
That's fast.

By the way. Maybe you could save my map, and edit it yourself, then attach it to here?

Ic.

Norway - King's Palace:

"How did they made it here?"
"I have no damn idea.."
"We have 24 hours deadline to surrender.."
"We cannot take them.."
"Yeah.. Too many of our troops are defending Northern parts.."
"Ask from Inkana, what they do want.."
"Roger.. So we surrender.."
"Yes.. Most likely.."
Nireva
28-09-2004, 13:45
Nireva - Field:

"This is Gripen Lead, we're closing."
"Roger that, hit the base."
"Roger that. Open fire, guys."
"Roger."
"Affirmative."
"Detecting stinger behind me!"
"Counter measures!"
"Locking target.. Fox-3!"
"Damn. Gripen Two is down. There's more than a stingerguy.."
"Roger.. I'm firing."
"Lets go."
"Roger."
"This is Gripen Lead, Assault, your ball."
"Roger that, Gripen Lead."

Another city in Norway was conquered soon.
Another cities in Estonia were being attacked, and many of them lost.
Inkana
29-09-2004, 01:14
Ooc.
That's fast.

By the way. Maybe you could save my map, and edit it yourself, then attach it to here?

Ic.

Norway - King's Palace:

"How did they made it here?"
"I have no damn idea.."
"We have 24 hours deadline to surrender.."
"We cannot take them.."
"Yeah.. Too many of our troops are defending Northern parts.."
"Ask from Inkana, what they do want.."
"Roger.. So we surrender.."
"Yes.. Most likely.."

Oslo is very close to the Swedish border. And a blitzkrieg is VERY fast.

"Oslo, since you have surrendered we will not harm you or your city. However, you must withdraw all your forces from nothern Norway, and cease fighting with Finland and I."
Nireva
29-09-2004, 07:27
Could I join as Schleswig -Holstein, Lower Saxony, Hamburg, Brandenburg and West Pomerania?? your side if possible.


Okay. Feel free. :)
Nireva
29-09-2004, 07:29
Oslo is very close to the Swedish border. And a blitzkrieg is VERY fast.

"Oslo, since you have surrendered we will not harm you or your city. However, you must withdraw all your forces from nothern Norway, and cease fighting with Finland and I."

Norway - King's Palace:

"Okay. Withdraw the forces. Give a way to Arctic Ocean for Finland.. Otherwise they're gonna destroy us.. Totally.. Send the crypted code to Nireva & Inkana.."
"Roger that.."
Nireva
29-09-2004, 13:26
Nireva - HQ.

"Sir!"
"Yes?"
"Norway surrendered!"
"They gave the land for us?"
"Yes."
"Good. Withdraw the forces. Expect; Let 1 million troops to be there."
"Roger that!"
"How we are doing in Estonia?"
"More land is war-zone.."
"Well. We'll fight them back when reinforcements come."
"Yes, we'll do."

Pskov - Parliament:

"What!?"
"Yes, Norway fell back!"
"Shit. We're losing allies.."
"Yeah."
"But, we do fight to the end!"
"Yes sir!"

Ooc.

The updated map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/War3.GIF)
Warta Endor
29-09-2004, 14:52
Im RP ing as a greedy dictator who wants more land so....... its NOT my real nation!!

Hamburg, Prussia the capital of the Prussian Empire (which is awfully small according to the leader Erwin Hinkel)
The chief of staff, general Günther walks in to the office of the great dictator, Erwin Hinkel.

Hinkel:"General, you have arrived! Lets continue the conversation we ended last night."
Gen.:"Sir, if we want to get a bit of the big cake we should join the war. Norway, Psov and Latvia are losing badly. Especialy Norway is taking hits and intelligence thinks they could withdraw from war."
Hinkel:"Yes, and is it an option to attack Latvia?"
Gen.:"Well, Latvia is very strong, to strong for u...."
Hinkel:"What is this for nonsense, have you been listing to foreign propaganda or evil rebelious groups in our beloved Prussia!!! Of course can Prussia attack Latvia and Psov and we WILL win or hereby you are ordered to commit suicide if we are defeated!!!"
Gen.:"Shall I call on the full army and reserves???"
Hinkel:"Yes do that and send a message to Nireva. And when is the new Berlin ready?
Gen.:"Three years till completion. Anything else sir?"
Hinkel:"You're dismissed to leave."

Gen. Günther leaves for Military HQ. He thinks Hinkel is going to far. Prussia isn't strong as it used to be.


ope I did it good, it's my first real RP!!
Nireva
29-09-2004, 16:13
Nireva - Parliament:

"Sir! Incoming message!"
"From?"
"Prussian Empire."
"Okay. What they say?"
"They're proceeding to attack Latvia."
"Okay. Let them attack. From west?"
"Guess so."
"Send a message to them, and let them attack. When our reinforcements arrive to Estonia?"
"In 6 hours they're ready to battle."
"Okay good."
"Yeah."

Six hours later:

Nireva - HQ:

"Send the forces. Now we start the proceed."
"Roger that!"

Everywhere in Estonia, Nirevan troops started proceeding deeper in Estonia, again. Pskov & Latvian troops had no chance, Nireva was just overpowered, and Latvian & Pskov forces were hungry, and they didn't have much motive.

Pskov - Parliament:

"Sir.. Nirevan troops are proceeding.."
"Shit.. Becose of Norway.."
"Yes.."
"No can do. Make bombardments to Nirevan positions, fall back our troops Pskov borders."
"Yes, sir."
"And say to Latvians that they do the same."
"Roger."

Latvia - Parliament:

"Sir! We're retreating from Estonia!"
"WHAT!? WHY!?"
"Becose of two things, Nirevans got reinforcements from Lappland, and they're overpowered now. And, Pskov wanted us, said that we should make bombardments."
"Okay. But just to our borders. Don't let them cross that line."
"Roger that!"
Estholad
29-09-2004, 16:50
Ok. I would like to join in as Karelia. (tai Karjala kuten me suomalaiset sanotaan ;) ) The side would be with Latvia and Pskov.
The reason for joining in war: Karelia has just declared it's independence, and the leftisth "parliament" is so full about itself, that refuses to listen to all news channels. Therefore it thinks it can accomplish the dream of Grand Karelia. That means conquering the eastern part's of Finland to itself.
However, before i rush into action, i would like to know one thing:

What size is your military Nireva? Since Karelia is a poor region (or nation), and doesn't have a large military. I was thinking my military should be about 1/3 of your military, but not even as nearly well equipped. However, we would have the element of surprise ( i don't suppose you have much troops around your eastern border). Propably still before long you would conquer Karelia, but for the beginning it would be at least a tough fight.

Or, i could just use my own military, but i think it would suit more for this rp if i created a new one.

Sorry for a messy post.
Nireva
29-09-2004, 18:33
Ok. I would like to join in as Karelia. (tai Karjala kuten me suomalaiset sanotaan ;) ) The side would be with Latvia and Pskov.
The reason for joining in war: Karelia has just declared it's independence, and the leftisth "parliament" is so full about itself, that refuses to listen to all news channels. Therefore it thinks it can accomplish the dream of Grand Karelia. That means conquering the eastern part's of Finland to itself.
However, before i rush into action, i would like to know one thing:

What size is your military Nireva? Since Karelia is a poor region (or nation), and doesn't have a large military. I was thinking my military should be about 1/3 of your military, but not even as nearly well equipped. However, we would have the element of surprise ( i don't suppose you have much troops around your eastern border). Propably still before long you would conquer Karelia, but for the beginning it would be at least a tough fight.

Or, i could just use my own military, but i think it would suit more for this rp if i created a new one.

Sorry for a messy post.


I'll give comment tomorrow morning. Now I'm out.
But it's 6-10% of my total population [<-- Edit. :p ] [But I'm not using it fully, even I say I use]
Inkana
30-09-2004, 00:54
"King Charles?"
"What is it now blastit!?"
"We're loosing land in Estonia, what shall we do?"
"Do what we alsways do! Send in millions of troops!"
"Are you saying add 4 more armies?"
"Yeah, and 10 more air wings, mix them between attack, and multi-role"
"Yes sir!"
Nireva
30-09-2004, 13:22
Ooc.
Now, further comment [Tai jotain tuonneppäin se enkuksi on].

Military size is 89.36 million now. [8% of pop.].
But, the 75% is in Civilian Resistance [Of total population] [They have no training, expect some older ones has, they have to steal 90% of their equipment].

Yeah. At start; You'd make fast process, as there's really few men [And CR, can't do almost anything..].
When I'd recall some of my troops from Estonia, I'd start proceeding. [But probably Pskov & Latvia would start the proceeding again in Estonia.]

So, if you want join, join. :p [I'm not sure does Kopparbergs have Karelia.. Anyway, he leaved from here, so I think I don't need to ask.. :rolleyes: ]

Oli muuten sairas ussankoe; Kirja ei kertonu mitään istari :sta, silti kysyttiin. :rolleyes:

I have some things to do before starting IC's..
Estholad
30-09-2004, 14:00
OOC: Woww almost 100 million man army is a bit overkill for this area i think.
And btw. i believe that u have the logistic personnel counted in that military?
So your realistic field force would be something like 30 million combat effective troops? Btw. i still think that that's a logistic nightmare, and your ecenomy would have to be based on keeping up your troops.

a bit less OOC:
So the "New Karelia"'s armed forces are currently as follows:

5 million combat troops.

Organisation:

1st Army "The Petroskoi" 1000 t-54, 2000 130mm Howitzer's

2nd Army "Finnish Army" (drafted of Finnish speaking people)
700 t-54. 1200 130mm Howitzer's

3rd Army "Border Army"(during peace time on border guard)
700 t-54, 1500 130mm Howitzer's

4th Army "The Rebel Army" (most troops quite green)
600 5-54, 700 130mm Howitzers.

5th Army (recently Drafted, most troops green)
500 5-54, 500 130mm Howitzers.

Each army of course has 1,000,000 combat troops. If the number's of tanks and artillery don't seem adequate, i will edit them.

"New Karelia" Air Force

20 B1b Lancer's
700 JAS Gripen's
500 A-15 "Raiden" Ground Attack Fighter

We also have several AA-Flak Batterys protecting all of our citys (that you can see on the map.

We also have a small fleet of 5 Kotor Class Large Patrol Boats(light frigates) on Laatokka.

I will be back IC this evening.
Nireva
30-09-2004, 14:16
OOC: Woww almost 100 million man army is a bit overkill for this area i think.
And btw. i believe that u have the logistic personnel counted in that military?
So your realistic field force would be something like 30 million combat effective troops? Btw. i still think that that's a logistic nightmare, and your ecenomy would have to be based on keeping up your troops.

Ooc. Yes, logistics & all was counted to that. It's whole military.
And like I said before; I'm not using my whole military [Even I say I'm in IC.].
Well. Most of the forces that I'm using, is not in army all the time, they just come when it's needed [Kuten täällä.], so I don't have to pay for keeping them alive. Well. Now I do, but it's war.
Well. 30 million combat effective.. Guess it's bit more. [If that didn't mean just infantry].
About 20 million in logistics.
10 million in airforce.
20 million in Navy [They're on infantry now].
30 million in basic infantry.

That's something what I fastly count..

And I'm using something like 20-30 million in Estonia (Total.) [That's much, I know, but I made some more men for Estonia, Latvia & Pskov.]
Others are prepared to move, if they're needed.
Estholad
30-09-2004, 17:48
OOC: Oh yes that makes a lot more sence. Thank you for explaining :)

IC:

Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

PM Heppu Pentti: "Give report on our troops"
Gen: "Sir, our forces are on station. Armies 1-4 have been deployed on border, but 5th army still await's on station near Petroskoi"
"Ok. What about Air Force?"
"All ready sir"
"Good. Announce to all our forces that now they're on their way to glory, and the founding of Grand Karelia."
"Ok sir"
"And now to the attack, let it commence"
"Yes sir"

A few phone calls are made, and then the hell is unleashed.

200 A-15 Raiden's are assigned to bomb station's and supply of enemy troops in fron't of advancing 2nd and 1st army's. Covering them is 100 Gripen's per army.

Squad's of 5 B1b Lancer's, covered with 20 Gripen's per squad are send to bombard military installation's near or inside Kajaani, Joensuu, Kuusamo and Taivalkoski. (that mean's one squad per city).

100 Gripen's are assigned to secure the Karelian sky from enemy air forces.

Total of 4400 130mm Howitzer's from army's 1-4 open fire on enemy border fortifications. After 30 minutes of bombardmen't, the forces of 1nd and 2nd army charge over the border line. 2nd Army's goal was Kuusamo and Taivalkoski, and 1st Armys Goal was Joensuu. Also some Division's of 2nd army were aiming for cutting of the Kajaani-Kuusamo Road, and Taivalkoski.
The 3rd and 4th army still remained on defensive position's, but ready to advance any moment. Also 3rd and 4th army's howitzer's kept bombarding the enemy station's before them.


OOC: And the map. Black Arrow's showing my troops that are advancing, and other black thingys my troops on defence.
http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS//kareliaattack.gif
Estholad
30-09-2004, 18:16
IC: Message to Finnish Goverment

As you propably know by now, we have invaded you. But we aren't on a quest to rape and kill every finnish person. We simply wan't to capture back the territories that used to be Karelian. Therefore we propose a treaty:

You surrender to us the following cities, and all land to east of them. These cities, and people lining in them as well as the other land you will surrender to us, will be taken as part of the Grand Karelia. We will grant them full citisenship, and consider as our own. Also the borderline should be drawn 20 km west from these citys border's. The cities are as follows:

Kuusamo, Taivalkoski, Kajaani, Joensuu.

As soon as you declare your surrender, all Karelian troop's will stand by, and garrison the areas you surrender to us. No further aggression will be shown toward's Finland.

By all sincere greetings,
Goverment of New Karelia.


OOC: Im not contacting Psov or Latvia yet, as i don't consider myself an allie with them, at least not yet. We just happen to be fighting the same foe
:mp5:
Nireva
30-09-2004, 18:19
Nireva - HQ:

"What the hell is going on there!?"
"I.. Karelia just attacked us!"
"Oh shit.. Any troops there?"
"There was.. But.. They're all dead."
"Shit. Get the million troops from Norway to secure Ranua, if it's under any attack. And get 5 million troops from Estonia. Hope that's enough. And send Gripens to guard Mikkeli, Savonlinna, Joensuu, Kajaani, Taivalkoski & Kuusamo. 50 Gripens to each.."
"Roger that."
"And report to the president!"
"Okay.."

Nireva - Parliament:

"What!? We're attacked from EAST?!"
"Yes, sir."
"Let me guess.. Kopparbergs?"
"No! Karelia!"
"Oh shit.. Of course.. They and their dreams about Grand Karelia.. How's our troops there?"
"Sir.. We don't have any.. Million is coming from Norway, and 5 million from Estonia.."
"Shit.. Okay. Get them there fast!"
"And Gripens are there too. Hope they won't fall down.."
"I hope that too.. I really do.."

Latvia - Parliament:

"What? Karelia attacked Finland?"
"Yes, sir."
"That's.. Great!"
"Yes, but.. Why didn't they say it to us?"
"I have no idea.."

Latvian president made a call to Karelia, and gave his congratulations to Karelian attack.

Ooc.
Most of my air force is in Finland, as Finland's not far away from Estonia. And.. AA's can easily bring them down.
Nireva
30-09-2004, 18:24
Nireva - Parliament:

"What!? They want us to give our whole parts of Karelia?! No way!"
"Thought so. But.. This is what they sent.."
"Okay. But.. Say that we think about it. And.. Call our Gripens back."
"Sir?"
"Do it."

From: Nireva - Parliament.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Our parts of Karelia.

Message: Well. Your attack was a shock.
Many Nirevan troops died in hours..
But. We'll think about that. As you seem to have mighty power.
What is the deadline of answering?
We hope that you could stop your troops killing Finnish people.
They've done no harm to you. But they will, if you want that..

...
End of message.

"How long does the arriving of those 5 million troops?"
"About.. One day for million.. So five days.."
Nireva
30-09-2004, 18:32
Ooc.

Losses [This day]:

Nireva: 812,215 dead. 12,124 wounded. 1,512 missing.
Pskov: 311,510 dead. 4,125 wounded. 1,215 missing.
Latvia: 456,155 dead. 5,512 wounded. 1,152 missing.
Norway: 7 dead. 1 wounded. 0 missing. [Civilian riots?]
Inkana
30-09-2004, 19:26
Estolad, mind using real wepons? This is basically a real life RP here.
Nireva
30-09-2004, 19:45
Estolad, mind using real wepons? This is basically a real life RP here.

I'm pretty sure that there's Raidens.. And at least there's Gripens [Even they're Swedish-made.. :p ]. And B-1B Lancers are pretty good bombers.

For artillery, I have no idea [I don't use them, I don't know anything about them.. Well. If I use, I don't give exact numbers of anything].
Warta Endor
30-09-2004, 20:17
Hinkel:"What!! The new Karelia dare to attack Nireva!! This is going to be a big war!
Günther:"yes, but they're making little progress though. Should we continue with the preparations for Pflan Wilhelm?
Hinkel:"Yes continue, What forces will we use?
Gunther:"The Whole Panzer Corps (6000 T 90 divided in 12 divisions) and about 3.5 million troops are ready. The 150 B52 will begin the war with a 24 hour bombing campaign on advance routs and southern defences. 20 B2 will bomb HQ's and other main buildings. 450 Apache will cover the advance, with our 750 Mig 29K We will follow the baltic coast through Poland and Lithuania. There the army will split. The largest portion, the 1st armycorps, will attack Riga, the other portion, the 2nd armycorps will advance on the coastal area around Lapaja and Ventspils. We reserve 650000 troops for defence of conquered territory. We will leave 250000 troops for defence in Great Prussia. 250 MigK and 200 Gripens will defend our Prussia from air.
Hinkel:"Right, when will the attack begin??? Wasn't it tomorrow?
Günther:"Yes the plan will, commence tomorrow.

ps. I know it isn't a very detailed plan, I will work it out tomorrow.

Goodnight all.
Estholad
30-09-2004, 20:56
OOC: Inkana please let me know what part of my military isn't real life?
Oh ofcourse you meant those Raiden Ground Attack Fighters. Here's some stats
Main Gun: AP 30mm canon
Length: 45.75 ft
Wingspan: 35.10 ft
Height: 12.00 ft
Weight Empty:22,500 lb
Fuel Capacity: 15,000 lb
Payload: Internal: 9,400 lb
External: 5,800 lb
Speed: Up to Mach 2.5
Combat Radius: 650 nautical miles
Crew: 1
Engines: 1 KZ-103 engine providing total 55,000 lbs possible thrust.

In case that's not ok with you, just switch them with some other Ground attack fighters from real life.

Nireva: Could you tell me how much losses you took on my attack (so i can calculate my own) and what and how many troop's you still have protetcting the citys im charging toward's. And info about your anti-air defence would be nice too.
Nireva
30-09-2004, 21:05
Nireva: Could you tell me how much losses you took on my attack (so i can calculate my own) and what and how many troop's you still have protetcting the citys im charging toward's. And info about your anti-air defence would be nice too.

Ooc. Just small one;

Hm.. About 200,000 deads. No woundeds or missing ones.
0 are defending cities yet, but soon the Norway's team will reach their city.
AA's stats can be found from my storefront.
And around the big cities, there are 2 Buk M1's defending the city.
No infantry or tanks.
Inkana
01-10-2004, 01:05
I've never heard of an A-25 raiden..
Estholad
01-10-2004, 08:41
OOC: Inkana, yes i believe Raidens are NS designed. But still to me they seem quite realistic. Basically theyre just Ground Attack Fighter's loaded up with
AirtoGroundMissiles. Besides those they're only weapon is the 30mm main cannon.

IC:

Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

PM "Give status on army"
Gen: "Umm whe're should i begin?"
"umm... Status on Airforce?"
"Bombing run's succeeded. But we lost 5 Gripens and 2 B1-b Lancer's again'st anti air fire."
"We've also lost 15 A-15 Raiden GAF's to enemy mobile anti-air."
"Ok.. that's not too bad. Statu's on army?"
"Sir, we're advancing greatly. 2nd Army has already liberated Kuusamo. Also we have surrounded Taivalkoski, and it's expected to be in our hands within hours. We also have troop's advancing toward's Kajaani."
"1st army encountered some more resistance, but we have Joensuu almost completely under our control. We're advancing well here too"
"3rd and 4th army's have also begun advancing, and aren't contacting any enemy resistance, 5th army still wait's for fielding"
"Sir, we really caught them by surprise. All enemy troop's we have encountered have been regular border guard's, or weakly armed civilian militia."
"Whoa... that sounds great indeed. Losses?"
"Very few sir. 2nd army lost 20,000 men and 15 t-54 tanks. 1st army's losses are a bit higher, 35,000 men and and 27 t-54 tanks."
"Great! proceed with the attack.
"Yes sir"


"Sir, weve had response to our ultimatum."
"Ok, let's response tho they're response."


Message to Finnish Goverment

I'd like to notice one thing. We aren't killing any civilians, as we believe they're to be citizen's of Grand Karelia. Of course if you'r civilians are armed and shooting at us, we're forced to shoot back.

And to our ultimatum, we have nearly captured already the areas we are requesting, and therefore it seem's you don't have to surrender them to us.
Therefore i propose you a new treaty.
You place your defencive lines behind those city's we're looking for. Then we simply garrison them, and we make peace. That wouldn't mean that you had "surrendered" them to us, and therefore would save you from a humiliating loss.


more IC:
Petroskoi, New Karelian HQ
"Sir, Latvian govermen't gave us call and conqratulated us on our succes."
"Oh, good. They could be useful allie's though... but i don't know any way we could cooperate since we're fighting on differen't fron'ts."
"i Agree sir."
"Well can't think of anything now.. Just say them that we thank them for they're praise, and wish them good succes agains't finnish troop's."


OOC:
Losses: Ai force 5 Gripens, 15 Raidens, 2 B1-b Lancer's.
Army: 27,000 dead, 28,000 severely wounded, 17,000 lightly wounded.
Equipment: 42 t-54 tanks.

OOC: Let me know if im godmodding

more OOC: And the map: Red shows areas secured by my troops, black arrows are my advancing troop's.
http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/ns/war4.gif
Hikoma
01-10-2004, 09:24
This is a Public Message from the Hikoma Bureau of Diplomatic Affairs

The Hikoma Military Policy aims not to encorage war but to remove war altogether. Wars bring about destruction of property, substantial amounts of money and, most importantly, involves millions of innocent civillians. The Hikoma way of warfare, also known as War of Assassins, eliminates all these evils who are brought from warfare. Most wars are motivated by a group of power-hungry man who care not for the lives of their military or civillian populations. By employing Hikoma Assassin Squads the leaders can have their enemies killed and the war ended without any more bloodshed.

The Bureau of Strategic Affairs along with the High Presidential Chamber has aproved Strategic Measure 44/236 in relation to the ongoing war between Finland and neighbouring countries. As of today, 4 assassination squads, each comprising 8 members, are on route to Finland. The total of 16 highly-trained assassins, equiped with MP5 SD submachine guns and SA 80 assault weapons, will be under service of the said country for the time being or until their mission is over. Please note that any enemies of the said country might also acquire our services and therefore the said country be also target of high-ranking officer's assassinations.

Kindest Regards

Anotsu Kagehisa, President of the Hikoma Republic
Estholad
01-10-2004, 13:05
OOC: Since this is semiclosed rp and all, i think ill just ignore that.
Nireva
01-10-2004, 13:38
OOC: Since this is semiclosed rp and all, i think ill just ignore that.

Sorry, I did not told about that, Hikoma asked to join, and I let him to join.
But I'm still waiting for which country he's operating..
Estholad
01-10-2004, 13:45
OOC: Yes i know i should've given you a turn for action, but as you said you don't have any troops (expect the civilian militia) in the cities im attacking i thought it would be ok if i just kept on. If that's not ok then just ignore this message.

IC:
Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

"Give me status on our advancing, general"
"Sir, wer'e doing great"
"We have now completely secured the cities of Joensuu and Taivalkoski."
"2nd Army's troops have secured Taivalkoski, and our forces are heading toward's Ranua and Pudasjärvi."
"3rd Army has surrounded Kajaani, and is ready to take it over."
"Even 4th army is advancing well"
"1st Army has secured Joensuu, but is having trouble of acvancing becouse there's so many damn lakes everywhere. They're looking for Savonlinna, but since it's on the other side of a big lake, they have to attack around it.
"5th army still awaiting for order's."
"That's sounding really good. Wonder where all of thei'r troops are? Any losses?"
"Yes, all of our armie's have suffered moderate losses. Nothing to be worried about though."
"Ok. Order our 18 remaining B1-b lancer's to Bombard military installation's around Oulu. And get 50 Gripen's to cover them. And otherwise, keep on with the attack"
"Yes Sir!"

OOC:
New Losses: 74,000 dead, 97,000 wounded, 170 missing
Total losses: 101,000 dead, 125,000 wounded
Equipment: New losses: 35 t-54 tanks, 13 A-25 Raiden's
Total losses:77 t-54, 28 A-25 Raiden's

Map: http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS/War5.GIF

more OOC: My relatively High losses are becouse i wanted to take control of cities fast, and my forces basically run over the civilian militia and few other troops with sheer numbers. So when we start seeing real defence, my troop's will be more careful about they're lives.
Nireva
01-10-2004, 18:49
Nireva - HQ:

"Are our forces in Ranua already?"
"Yes, sir!"
"How about first million from Estonia?"
"About 500,000 are in Savonlinna within 1 hour."
"Good.. We're gonna strike back."
"Yes, we are."
"Next million.. Send them to Iisalmi."
"Roger."
"Third.. 50 kilometers Sout-West from Kajaani. And give good AA's to them."
"Roger."
"Fourth and fifth to way of Oulo & Pudasjärvi. And one extra million of troops to Jyväskylä."
"Roger that."
"And how we are doing in Estonia?"
"Lost Põlva.. And Tartu is becoming a war-zone.."
"Oh.. That's just damn great.."
"I know. I know."

Losses:
Civilian Resistance; About 50,000 dead.
Nireva; 712,215 dead. 5,125 wounded. 517 missing.
Latvia; 424,511 dead. 3,214 wounded. 1,150 missing.
Pskov; 211,012 dead. 1,512 wounded. 411 missing.

Message from Pskov to Latvian Parliament.

From: Pskov - Parliament.
To: Latvia - Parliament.
Subject: Estonia.

Message: As we've made big proceed in Estonia, guess we could now stop the war.
Let Nireva have what they've claimed, and we have what we have now.
I guess it would be good for both of us.

...
End of message.

And the map. (http://www20.brinkster.com/sami44/NationStates/War6.GIF)
Estholad
01-10-2004, 20:14
OOC: This is getting interesting. It would be good if you could tell me how soon you'r troops, for example in Pudasjärvi and Iisalmi are going to arrive.
And if you could [erotella menetykses mun rintamalla, ja viron rintamalla] so i could tell my losses more accurately. I will answer IC in an hour propably.
Estholad
01-10-2004, 21:55
IC:
Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

PM: "Gen, give me report on situation."
Gen: "Oh... it's not going well at all. Actually things are getting rather shitty for us."
"What?! I thought we're doing well?"
"Well yes... Our forces have secured cities of Pudasjärvi and Kajaani."
"But.. then what is going wrong?"
"That seems to be as far as we can get. Strong enemy forces have been spotted around Ranua, and the 2nd army is getting too split up to defeat them. Also strong enemy forces have appeared near and propably in Imatra. Also repor'ts of stronger enemy forces from 1st army. It's stuck up too."
"Shit. They must have brought in loads of troop's. What would you suggest?"
"Sir, Since we have actually already captured the land we're looking to claim, i suggest we would dig in and try to defend:"
"That sounds good enough. Command 2nd Army to secure direction's to Ranua and Oulu, and keep the road to Kemijärvi blocked. Also command them to begin fortifying the cities of Kuusamo, Taivalkoski, and Pudasjärvi."
"3rd army should garrison and fortify Kajaani, and secure the road south to Imatra. 4th army should cut the road Jyväskylä-Imatra, and dig in."
"1st army should fortify Joensuu, and dig in wher'e theyre now."
"Also, now command the 5th Army as backup for the 5th army, as theyre position seems the most fragile."
"Also halt all Bombarding action's, but command 50 Gripen's to secure every city we have captured. Also keep 100 Gripen's covering each of our armies."

"This looks like we're going to have to fight a damn hard war. Maybe we should try to get some allie's. What possible allies do we have?"
"Well Pskov and Latvia are at war with Nireva, so they should be nr. 1 in priority. Also Norwegian's fought again'st them so we could try to contact them too."
"Ok. Transmit this message to them."
"Yes sir."

-----Message to Goverment's of Norway, Latvia and Pskov--------------

We, the Goverment of New Karelia Greet thou all.
We do have also a proposal for you.

As you propably know, we surprise attacked Finland, and have managed to capture many of thei'r cities. However, as Finland is a large nation, we feel like we should form an alliance.

We know that wer'e not the only nation that Finland has stolen land from, or attacked without a real reason. Don't you Latvian's and Pskov want to drive the Finnish Invader's off Estonia, and to see Finland's tale having a humiliating loss? Don't you Norwegian's want to drive the Finnish invader's out from Finnmark and claim back the land's that belong to you by right?

If you do, then your'e on the same quest with us. All we want to do is claim back territorie's belonging to us, that the Finnish govermen't has stolen and manipulated to itself. Therefore we ask for you to join together. Enemies of Finland. Alone we fall, but together we will Triumph!

OOC:
Losses: 27,000 dead, 3,000 wounded, 0 missing
Total Losses:128,000 dead, 128,000 wounded
Equipment losses: 8 t-54,
Total Equipment losses: 85 t-54
Airforce losses: 17 A-25 Raiden's, 3 B1-B Lancer's, 7 Gripen's.
Airforce total losses:Ai force 12 Gripens, 45 A-25 Raiden's, 5 B1-b Lancer's.

And map: http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS/War6.GIF
Nireva
02-10-2004, 11:06
Nireva - HQ:

"Send a part our damn navy to east of Karelia.. Ask for Russian permission to use their sea."
"Roger that."
"And.. How's the troops?"
"Ranua & Savonlinna are secured. Million in each.. Iisalmi has about 200,000 troops already.. 800,000 more coming today. About 50,000 about 50 kilometers South-West from Kajaani. With 3 Chorales, 1 BUK M1. About 5,000 in Oulu, 7,000 heading Pudasjärvi, but.. They're under heavy fire."
"Oh.. Shit. Order them to hold their positions. Don't go Pudasjärvi.. Yet."
"Roger."
"And.. Jyväskylä's troops?"
"Just about 100."
"Okay. But send navy now."
"How big one?"
"Hm.. Let see.. 8 Arizona class BBG, 150 Upholder class SSK. 1 Ohio SSGN. Oh.. And one Nimitz aircraft carrier."
"Roger that.."
"And.. How we are doing in Estonia?"
"We've stopped them. At least for a while. They haven't made any progress at least yet."
"That's one good thing."
"Yes."

Ooc. I think sea is enough big to take them.. Yorktown is pretty big aircraft carrier, Arizona's are battleships. Upholders are basic dieselsubmarines. Ohio SSGN is cruise missile submarine.

Norway - King's Palace:

"Are you gonna answer to the message?"
"Yes.. Lets see.."

From: Norway.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Alliance.

Message: Yes, we'd gladly be your ally, and take our Finnmark back.
But.. There's Sweden.. We cannot take them. No way, they already made it to Oslo..
So.. Thanks.. But no thanks.
Hope you win.

...
End of message.

"Send it.."
"Okay.."

Pskov - Parliament:

"Sir! Message from Karelia!"
"Okay. Good. Lets see..
That's good. That's damn good. Okay. I'm gonna send a message.."
"Roger!"

From: Pskov - Parliament.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Allies?

Message: Yes! We'd love to be your allies! But no, Nireva haven't attacked our mainland.
And I guess they wouldn't, as they was gonna attack Latvia!
But still, we cannot allow that!
So. We'd gladly join your alliance. And I'm sure that Latvia will join as well.

...
End of message.

"One good thing for this day.."

Latvia - Parliament:

"Sir! Karelia wants to make alliance between us and Pskov. And Norway."
"What?! Great!"
"Yes!"
"Let me see the message."
"Here."
"Okay. I'm gonna say that we will join that alliance."
"Good."

From: Latvia - Parliament.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Alliance against Finland.

Message: As we have the same enemy, big-bad Finland, we will join your alliance.
But. One thing, what should we do the Sweden?
And yes, you made a big surprise to Finland. And that was a really good turn for us.
A really good. And you know it.

...
End of message.

Ooc. The Nimitz carrier is full of Gripens. I'm pretty busy; So you have to check it by yourselves, how big it is.. :rolleyes:
Estholad
02-10-2004, 11:28
OOC: Ok. Damn, that's going to be a damn big surprise to my troop's. Lucky you dont have any invading troop's with your navy. But but. all the navy i have is 10 Kotor Class Large Patrol boat's. So they will get prpably beaten up quite badly.
Estholad
02-10-2004, 11:46
IC:

"Sir, We have answer's coming in from Norway, Latvia and Pskov."
"Good.. letmme see them"
"Here"
"Ok... this is good enough. Though im dissappointed about Norway."
"Ok sen these messages to them."

------Message to Goverment of Norway-----------

We thank you for your interest in our alliance, and we would really like to see you fighting agains't Finland with us. Is there anything we could do to make you join this war agains't evil again?


------Message to Goverment's of Pskov and Latvia---------------

Great. Now we three have formed an alliance to destroy the evil Nirevan's.
Altough Norway seem's to be too afraid of Sweden, so it won't join us.
If you have any ideas how to get Norway in to this alliance, it would be awsome.

And on to military issues. Even tough we have advanced well so far, it seem's that Finland is concentrating troop's against us. It has managed to halt our advance and is propably going to attack back soon. However we have begun digging our forces down to hold their position's, and begun fortifying all cities we have captured.
However, this must mean Finland is pulling some of it's troop's away from Estonia; this could be your change. We believe you should try a large scale assault soon against the partially weakened Finnish troops.



OOC: Back to my navy. We have at all times 2 Kotor Class Patrol boat's patrolling the coastline, but rest of them are in secret port's that shouldn't be easy to find.
OOC: And your navy does sound quite realistic, yes. Even tough 150 submarines are quite much for that area. But still, that's nothing compared to over 30 million troop's fighting in Estonia.
Nireva
02-10-2004, 14:18
OOC: Back to my navy. We have at all times 2 Kotor Class Patrol boat's patrolling the coastline, but rest of them are in secret port's that shouldn't be easy to find.
OOC: And your navy does sound quite realistic, yes. Even tough 150 submarines are quite much for that area. But still, that's nothing compared to over 30 million troop's fighting in Estonia.

Small ooc.

Yes. But some of the submarines starts patrolling nearby areas.
Just to say; Your navy can sink pretty easily, once we found them.
That navy +About 10 B-2A Spirits can cause bit troubles.. :p
And, of course; Gripens. :rolleyes:
Nireva
03-10-2004, 18:20
Nireva - HQ:

"Whats the ETA of navy?"
"Um.. 16 hours."
"Still?"
"Yes."
"Okay.. And we're holding in Estonia?"
"Yes."
"How about Finland?"
"Our forces are now fully at there. Expect is Jyväskylä.. About 300,000 there."
"Okay. Good. Start moving towards Karelia. And if there are any bigger resistance, send B-52 Stratofortresses to make a bombard. Unless it's bigger city."
"Roger that!"
"And. One more thing. Send B-52's to make bombardments to way of Joensuu.. So the forces can move easier."
"Of course, sir."

Norway - King's Palace:

No.. There aren't any way.. Unless to take Inkana down.. But it's impossible. I'm gonna write that message..

Pskov - Parliament:

"Any ideas how to get Norway into war?"
"One. To destroy Inkana."
"Impossible."
"I know."
"Well.. Send the message anyway.."
"Roger that."

Latvia - Parliament:

"Yeah.. That would be great.."
"What would?"
"If Nirevans have to fall back from Estonia."
"Yeah.."
"Send a message to Pskov, that attack 6PM GMT time against Nireva. Tomorrow."
"Tomorrow? Sure?"
"Yes. We need to do this now."
"Roger that.."
"And send a message to Karelia, thank for the advice. And say that we will help Karelia, if we push Nirevans out of Estonia."
"Roger!"

Ooc.

Losses:
Nireva: 413,412 dead [51,215 in Finland]. 51,512 wounded. 621 missing [All in Estonia].
Latvia: 133,314 dead. 31,500 wounded. 62 missing.
Pskov: 210,214 dead. 35,912 wounded. 823 missing.

Numbers went down, becose Nirevans digged down in Estonia, and just started the attacks to Karelia.

From Ranua, they start proceeding to Kuusamo.
Near Pudasjärvi, they first secure it, then start proceeding Taivalkoski.
Iisalmi [I guess there was one] teams moves to Kajaani.
Savonlinna moves towards Joensuu, but there are many B-52's bombarding areas in front of the forces.

I think I don't need to update the map..
Estholad
03-10-2004, 19:33
OOC:
Just a few point's where id like to get more info.
1. Abour how much troop's does each advancing group consist?
2. How much tanks etc. do they have?
3. How many B-52 you have bombing my forces, and do they have (and how much) fighter cover?

And, about my Anti-Air defence. I have 200 mobile Anti-Air unit's per army.
Theyre kinda like the tpsv-90 Marksmen in your storefront. The major difference is theyre mounted on truck chassis, not tank.

Will be back IC as soon as you give me info about these thingys.
Warta Endor
03-10-2004, 20:21
Start of operations have been put forward a day which angered Hinkel.

Prussian Field HQ, near the polish border.

Hinkel:"Damn!!! Why has the operation start today instead of yesterday!"
Günther:"We had some supply problems and..."
Hinkel:"SUPPLY PROBLEMS!!! The war hasn't even started yet and we have (sarcastic tone) supply problems!"
Günther:"Well, H hour is in 50 minutes. we have to wait just a day longer. You're still sure you will join the main column?
Hinkel:"Yes I am. Now leave me alone."

50 minutes later 5000 Artillery pieces start firing on Polish positions. Minutes after Mig 29 start bombarding positions furher in Poland while 65 B52 and 20 B2 Bombard Latvia. 3 Hours later Mortar fire opens and under cover of Apache longbow Choppers the first Elite Panzer Brigade crosses the Oder into Poland quikly followed by other troops.

hope I RP well ;)
Warta Endor
03-10-2004, 20:21
Ps. is it a problem if I also RP Poland and Lithuania?
Estholad
04-10-2004, 06:09
OOC:At least no problem with me. But you still shouldn't let Poland collapse too fast.
Nireva
04-10-2004, 13:39
OOC:
Just a few point's where id like to get more info.
1. Abour how much troop's does each advancing group consist?
2. How much tanks etc. do they have?
3. How many B-52 you have bombing my forces, and do they have (and how much) fighter cover?

And, about my Anti-Air defence. I have 200 mobile Anti-Air unit's per army.
Theyre kinda like the tpsv-90 Marksmen in your storefront. The major difference is theyre mounted on truck chassis, not tank.

Will be back IC as soon as you give me info about these thingys.

Ooc.

1. They move as companys [180 per company], but as they have same goals, they move something like.. 3-8 companys? Depending how big is the target
2. Well. Pretty many. Mainly Challenger II's. Lets say.. Each company has 3 Challenger II's [And I think that's NOT MUCH, but every squad has a LAW for tanks..] +10 BMP-2 [Russian made APC's]
3. For forces near Savonlinna, 5-6, with 3 Gripens covering each [B-52 is one of the heaviest bombers].
For the Navy [If I find it], about 20, each covered by 5 Gripens +10 extra Gripens moving near them.

And Warta Endor;
Just don't let them surrender too quickly, and they're something like Defcon3 or 4, so they're not fully armed at the start.
Warta Endor
04-10-2004, 15:16
Warshau, Poland, Polish HQ

Gen. Radzimski:"Prussia invaded our Territory! Szcecin (Stettin) has already fallen. They're not very far though. Gdansk, Warschau and Krakow were bombarded!
Adm. Gudinski:"Damn, those Prussian Bastards want a repeat of WWII! But what could be the reason? I mean, Prussia isn't that much stronger compared to Poland, is it?
Prime-minister Sarowski:"Yes General, What's the state of our army? And why hasn't intelligence warned us?"
Gen.:"Well, we were surprised as every soldier can tell you, the only armies which are on full strength are the red ones (he points at the map), the beige are on half strength or less. We must quickly react and put on full alert. Mobilize the population and prepare for Guerilla actions in occupied territory."

That moment Air Raid sirens go off again.

Sarowski:"Yes, good idea. What are the losses? Quickly please, I don't want to be bombed out!"
Gen.:"Well a few border troops were captured and about 30 planes were shot down or destroyd on the ground."
Sarowski:"Ok let's go now. As I said I don... (BOOOM)
further
Prussian Field HQ based in Stettin, an hour later.

Soldier: "Here Sir."
Günther:"Thanks boy. (he reads for a moment and smiles :D ) Yes!"
Hinkel:"What is it?"
Günther:"Polish HQ has been bombed and destroyd! Poland can't hold on now!"
Hinkel:"Well, thats good news! What about the advance?"
Günther:"We haven't gone much further. We haven't had much resistence yet but that will come."
Hinkel:"Let's hope not!"

In an C5 Globemaster, somewhere above Poland.

Soldier:"How long sir?"
Captain:"A few more minutes son, be patient!"
Another Soldier:"Man, how much para's are going to be dropped again?"
Captain:"Around 15000! We got to hold on for about 5 days till main force arrives."

The plan is to drop 15000 para's west of Gdansk.

Losses:Prussian-13
Polish Military-132
Polish civilians-300 lost in bombardments

ps What is the Defcon thing? Isn't it alert level scale or something? could someone explain?
Nireva
04-10-2004, 16:08
Ooc. [REALLY small one]

Yes; Defcon is that warning system [Which USA uses]

Defcon5 = Normal.
Defcon2 = War.
Defcon1 = Nuclear war.

Or something like that.
I have no idea what Defcon3 & 4 are.. I can only guess. :rolleyes:
Estholad
04-10-2004, 17:40
OOC: Well actually i was asking about how many total man each of your groups posesswes. Like "1,5 million advancing towards Kuusamo etc." But that's ok.

IC:
Field, near Pudasjärvi.

"Shit, enemy bomber's inbound. Take Cover"
*Bang Broosh Bommm Bash*
"Shit, get A-A on station's. Now fire at enemy aircraft"
*TsakatsakatsakatsakatskatskatsakatskaBOOM*
"God damn A-A:s out. Call to the damn airforce and tell them to get their Gripen's here"
"Ok sir"

*In few minutes on the sky, a group of 20 Gripen's arrives to fend back enemy bomber's. They charge at enemy B-52's and Gripen's firing their Air-to-air missiles and their 27mm guns*

"Good. Our boys will take care of that. Still... we got some bad losses."
"Soon the enemy will attack! But we shall make our stand here! We have order's from above that we must not leave these position's! We will fight to the last man like all proud Karelian's should! Now prepare to fend off the enemy!"

*Soldier's lock&load theyr guns, antitank weaponry is prepared and soldier's dig better into theyr positions.*

*Soon enemy infantry begin's advancing, and fire get's harder*

"Call for the artillery to get a concentration on advancing enemy"
"K sir"

*Boosh Bangg, Boom, Boom, Badang*

"Shit, that doesn't seem to help"
"Damn. Hold your stations. No one runs!"
pakapakapakapakapakapakapaka
"Shoot in that bush, there's enemy MG hiding"
"Aye sir"
*prrt-prrt-prrt-prrt-prrt-*
"Sir, we're taking heavy losses. We have lost 2 suadcommander's so far"
pakapakapakapakapakapaka
"Aaargh... somebody helppp... im dying... somebody help... medics... pleease"
*Grrooan... Boom, Grroooan* (tank engines and shooting :P)
"Goddamn!!! Enemy tanks! AT-Weaponry here!!"
"Coming, coming.... Aaargh"
"Theyre running over us!!"
*Grrooan...Grooaan... Boom... pakapakapaka*
"No one runs! We will make our stand he...Aargh"
"Captains dead. All retreat!!!!"

*Estholad's troop's begin a rather panicing retreat out of the station's.*
(Theatres like this happen all over the front. Most of my troop's are being forced to retreat. But my Gripen's are actively trying to keep your air-forces away from the top of my troop's. (i have 100 Gripen's covering each army))


Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

"Report on status."
"Sir! This is not going well. Our forces have been forced to withdraw, and some more inexperienced troop's are even panicing."
"Shit. How are the fortifying work's on cities going?"
"Almost complete sir. Necessary building's have been refitted to suit our defensive need's, barricades have been built along road's and bunker's have been built in strategic spot's."
"Good. Call our force's to retreat. We must reconcentrate them. Here's my plan:"

2nd Army: 200,000 men and 150 T-54 in Pudasjärvi
250,000 men and 350 t-54 in Taivalkoski
rest of men form a line of defence south and northeast from Taivalkoski.

5th Army Garrison Kuusamo, and form defensive line southwest. Also keep troop's in reserve for my northern front.

3rd Army Fall back ro Kajaani, fortify there, and secure flank's

1st Army Fall back toward's Joensuu, however do not let the enemy to it already.

4th Army Same as 1st Army. However leave small force to Hold the fortification's along Jyväskylä-Iisalmi Road.


"Whoa. That seem's like a good plan indeed. I will start working it immediately"

"Ok. Now i think it's time for some foreign policy."


-----------Message to Goverment of Norway--------------

Are you sure you couldn't handle Sweden by yourself, as long as we keep Nireva off your ass for that time?


-----------Message to Polish Goverment----------------

Our information source's have revealed that you'r being attacked by Nireva's allies. Therefore we ask for you to join our Alliance again'st the disgraced invader's called Finland, and theyr allies.

----------Message to Goverment of Latvia & Pskov-----------

We thank you for your agreement on our advice. I have however a new issue for you to think about.

Poland. I have heard that theyre being attacked by Nireva's allies. We have already contacted Polish Govermen't for joining our alliance but since you'r closer up to them i have a few possible things you could do.

1. Sending in some military personell to coordinate the polish forces in case they'r lead has been killed etc.
2.Any other course of action you find out that could help the polish to last longer.


OOC: Phew... a long post.
Losses:
Losses: 97,000 dead, 19,723 wounded, 827 missing
Total Losses:225,000 dead, 147,723 wounded
Equipment losses: 62 t-54, 17 Howitzer's
Total Equipment losses: 147 t-54, 17 Howitzer's
Airforce losses: 17 Gripen's
Airforce total losses:Ai force 29 Gripens, 45 A-25 Raiden's, 5 B1-b Lancer's.

And map: Note, the black dot's mean areas patrolled by my men at all times. But no strong forces there.

http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS/War7.GIF
Nireva
05-10-2004, 14:54
Ooc. Oh. Sorry. Of course, 1 million. But near the targets, they usually make the attacks from multiple directions, then they go like half and half.


Message from Norway to Karelia:
From: Norway.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Nireva's Wars.

Message: No. No way we could handle Inkana.. And keep Nirevans out of here at the time too.
Just.. We cannot take it. They can easily cut our supplys. Sorry.

...
End of message.

Message from Latvia to Karelia:
From: Latvia.
To: Karelia - Parliament.
Subject: Poland.

Message: Yes, we talked about it with Pskov. And they cannot send any men there.
Expect some good military advisors. And we will send them.
But currently, we cannot send any soldiers, as we cannot even proceed in Estonia!
Damn them.. Our bombers cannot harm them enough.. Damn it..
We'll keep trying.. Hope you can proceed in Nireva, then they have to call men there.

...
End of message.

Nireva - HQ:

"Sir!"
"Yes?"
"We've made some good process in our homeland. But, pretty heavy losses too."
"Okay.. Keep going deeper.."
"Roger, but.. Only one of our bombers came back. Just made it.. And 2 Gripens made the way back.."
"Just.. But.. How's the navy?"
"They're ready to bombard."
"Good. Lets bombard.. Segezha.."
"Too far for our battleships."
"I know. But you have Nimitz there."
"Yes. Oh.. They've destroyed two patrol boats.." [Sorry, you have to RP that.]
"Okay.. Just start the bombard. And, send our Tomahawks.."
"Roger that, sir.. Where?"
"500 to Sortavala, 2,000 to Petrozavodsk, 500 to Suoyarvi."
"Roger that."
"And move our forces from Jyväskylä to Iisalmi. Guess it is secured."
"Roger."

And from Jyväskylä, there comes one million troops, with about 700 Challenger II's, and MANY APC's, and MANY supply trucks.
But. Of course, they're not in one team.

Ooc.

Losses:

121,125 dead [In Finland], 242,246 [Total]. 17,153 wounded [Total]. 715 missing.
And I'm not giving equipment losses, but I'm taking them. In Finland, usually, there just come new Challenger II's [to the next battle, of course]
Estholad
05-10-2004, 17:28
OOC: About my Airdefence over Segezha, i have around the town 5 sites of Airdefence. Each of them consist of 8 FC1-c Layrteb medium altitude flak cannons. (88mm) I also have a squadron of 15 Gripen's guarding the city Airspace currently as your attack goes off. I will ofcourse concentrate more aircraft there soon as possible.

IC:

Petroskoi, New Karelian HQ

"So... how are our troop's doing it?"
"Not too much activity sir. Our forces have pulled back to the well prepared station's, and have so far pushed back all enemy assaults. However i don't believe the situation will hold this stable for long."
"Any idea what the enemy is doing?"
"Propably just trying to drive us back with pure manpower."
"But indeed, we have spotted a huge enemy troop moving from Jyväskylä to Iisalmi. At least 1million troop's, and hundreds of tanks."
"Shit. If they get to Iisalmi too fast wer'e screwed. Any idea's?"
"We have the small blockade by 4th army on the Iisalmi-Jyväskylä road, but they will likely be just walked over."
"Damn.... I had an idea! Large scale aerial assault! We should pull the ground force blockade out from our enemy's way, but should concentrate mass air power agains't them."
"What kind of force we're you thinking?"
"All we have. Group all the 500 A-15 Raiden (i build these at a slow ratio, so my losses in the'se have been replaced) to attack enemy convoy. Also we should concentrate there as many Gripen's and B1b's we can muster."
"Ok sir.. ill do some calculation's"
------
"Done. We can concentrate there the following airforce:
500-A-15 Raiden's, 15 B1b-lancer's, and 300 Gripen's.
That still leaves us with 50 gripen's with each army and 150 guarding our homeland sky."
"Yes.. that should be enough. Send them out as soon as you complete the replacing."
"We also should be calling this attack withthe codename "Vihut helvettiin"."
"....Ok sir"
*Suddenly exposion's start going off all around the city*
*Booomm...Booom.....Boooomm....Booom*
"What the hell is happening!!?!?!!"
"Don't know yet sir.... report's coming in from everywhere."
"Shit. They must be somekind of cruise missiles. We have report's of similiar attack's on Sortavala and Suojärvi.... wait something differen't. We have lost 2 of our patrol boat's outside our coast. And our radar's say that we have at least 8 enemy battleships, and one... aircraft carrier! Also suspected that they have many submarines with them."
"Also report's of enemy fighter's attacking Segezha."
"Damn. How many ship's do we have out there? Suppose we could try something with them?"
"Sorry sir... only 8 more Kotor Class Patrol ships?"
"Damn.. should have invested more on navy. But but... as far as i remember they are kinda heavily armed. Could do something with them later on."

"But now... after operation "Vihut Helvettiin" is completed, call all the aircraft back to attack enemy fleet."
"For now we should concentrate 100 Gripen's to Segheza, i hope they can fend off the enemy aircraft by working together with our airdefence."
"Ok Sir.. but i might have an idea how to use our navy."
"Just if we could take out the enemy aircraft carrier, theyr navy would be relatively harmless. And our ships are rather fast moving...."
"Ok. Feel free to try whatever you want."

On sea outside the cold Karelian coast

8 Kotor class large patrolship's slowly move towar'ds enemy fleet. Still outside a safe distance from them.

"Sir, we have order's from HQ. We should try to destroy enemy carrier in order to immobilize enemy fleet."
"Ok... too bad i feel that will also mean our death."
"Cooperate with coastal radar surveillance network to find out exact location of enemy carrier"
"ok sir...... done."
"Good, we should fire at them with all of our long range equipment."
"Ok. All we have are our Tomahawk's, and 128mm Plamen MRLS System's."
"Commence with that"

*All ships prepare theyr missile's, and then, one by one they launch off theyre Tomahawk missile's guided at enemy carrier(each ship can launch 4 tomahawk's simultaneusly= total of 32 missiles).

After the tomahawk's have been launched, ships power up theyr 128mm Plamen MRLS System's, basically a land MRLS System but refitted for naval purposes. After aiming them at enemy carrier, every ship launches a volley of 17 128mm missiles at enemy Nimitz. (17 missiles per ship= total of 136 missiles)*

"Good... that should show them that wer'e not threated off this easily."
"What next cap?"
"As we have been approaching them from east so far, take a strong turn to north, and try to go around them. Still try to stay out of theyr radar's range. When we're northwest of them, approach them again."

--------------Message From Karelia to Pskov & Latvia-----------------

We thank for your effort's in this war. We however neither have luck with us in this war. The Nirevan's and theyr allies are simply too much. We are slowly loosing ground in Finland, and now we have Nirevan navy standing on our backdoor.

Do you think too that we should start negotiating peace with Nireva, unless we can find a new powerful ally somewhere? At least i see no other possible allie's than the various region's of Russia, for example Murmansk or St. Peter's Burg.

------------Message to Nirevan's------------------

We hereby condemn you for murdering over half a million peaceful Karelian citizen's. However we are not as brutale and barbaric as you, and therefore will guarantee the safety of any unarmed Finnish citizens. However we hereby state that we will destroy the navy you used to murder our citizens.



OOC: >Guess i don't have to upgrade the map....
Losses: 28,000 dead, 5,000 wounded, 0 missing
Total Losses:253,000 dead, 152,000 wounded
Equipment losses: 7 t-54
Total Equipment losses: 154 t-54, 17 Howitzer's
Airforce losses: 15 Gripen's (covering Segezha)
Airforce total losses:Ai force 44 Gripens, 45 A-25 Raiden's, 5 B1-b Lancer's.

Civilian losses : 478,000, 522,000 wounded (but will survive)
Warta Endor
05-10-2004, 20:32
Warschaw, Poland, In the ruins of the former HQ a search is going on.

Soldier muttering:"What's this?"Shouting now:"Captain, over here sir! I think I have found a Survivor!"
Captain:"Coming over boy, be there in a sec."

After some digging they found the PM, barely alive. They raced him to the hospital. meanwhile on the other side of town, a meating of the new military Staff was taking place.

Gen. Adzomski:"The Prussians are far in our territory, Gdansk and Wroclaw have fallen. We stil hold the Weichsel and Oder defences, Poznan and Torun are also in our hands.
Gen. Rumanov:"I also like to make a comment about the AA defences. The incident with the PM shows us that AA defences must improve."
Gen Adzomski:"We're working on it. Karelia has sent us a proposal of an alliance. Should we agree?"
Dr. Spatski:"I as Foreign Minister would say yes. Allies are useful in this situation."
Gen. Rumanov:"I agree."
Gen. Adzomski:"Ok, I will wire a telegram."

Telegram to Karelian HQ

Poland accepts your proposal of an alliance. Details will be sent later.


Meanwhile in Prussian HQ

Hinkel:"Danzig in our hands, and the Polish PM dead!"
Günther:"Well, that's not certain. And we now are meeting heavy resistence and small Partizan groups hve attacked supply lines. The situation isn't secure yet sir"
Hinkel:"Ah, I guess we will slaughter the Polish in one more week!"
Günther softly:"I don't think so."

Losses:-Prussian 124 dead, 5 POW
-Polish military 450 dead, 25000 POW
-Polish Civilians 6734 dead
Warta Endor
06-10-2004, 07:20
Prussian Field HQ

Hinkel:"What about our troops around Poznan? Have they advanced further?"
Günther:"They're still pinned down in their trenches. The Polish resist strongly. Our supperior troops can't go any further!"
Hinkel:"Damn! We wait twelve hours and if the situation hasn't improved we will pull in strong measures. Stop any attacks from our troops, let them stay in their trenches. Let's see if an artillery barrage of a couple of hours can fix this situation!""
Günther:"Roger that."

Losses:-Prussian 2456 dead, 324 POW
-Polish Military 23415 dead, 28162 POW
-Polish Civilians 12345 dead
Warta Endor
06-10-2004, 16:56
Poznan, Poland, heavy fighting is going on in its streets.

"There, second window on the left! Sniper!"
crackle of gunshot, a sergeant was hit an killed.
"Throw a grenade, quick Heinrich"
BOOM!
"That one's gone. Come on, we've got to move!"

This was a small example of the fighting in the streets. Meanwhile in field HQ, Hinkel had one of his rages.
Hinkel:"What is the reason of our delay!?!?"
Günther:"Poznan is the reason. We had heavy losses there. Our soldiers weren't trained enough for city combat."
Hinkel:"God-F**king-Damn Poznan!!! Retreat our troops to the city border and bombard Poznan with everything we got! B52, B2, Migs, Artillery and mortar! Everything!"
Günther:"Isn't this a bit overreacting? The public and international opinion would be devestated! Nireva could withdraw it's support!
Hinkel:"Do as I say, attack other frontlines with apaches! Keep the pressure on!
Günther:"Yes sir!"
Estholad
07-10-2004, 13:13
bump... sry just had to do this.
Warta Endor
07-10-2004, 15:36
Site of former Poznan, Poland, now one big ruin which will make a Roman jealous :D.

"Damn, sir. It's a real mess, isn't it?"
"Yeah, they deserved it though, killing POW's (propaganda lie) and threatning to use WMD (also a propaganda lie). I think its a good thing."
"But they're still human? I mean, those civilians didn't deserve to die."
"You're talking of wrong things soldier."

Meanwhile, east of Gdansk (Danzig now), Prussian forces mounted another attack on the Polish Weichsel defensive line.

swoosh BANG, swoosh BOOOOM

"Come on! Move mother f**kers! Take that Bunker!"
"Argh, I'm hit! Medic! Medic!"
"Fire!"
"Damn, I'm hit!"
"Move your butt! We got to take the bunkers!"
SMACK
"Sarge's dead, I'm taking over command!"
"AAAAHHHH! I can't see anymore! Help!"
"Bring a bazooka here! Aim for the gap!"

Swoosh BOOOOOM!

"That one's gone! Radio HQ that we have a bridgehead!"
"Yes Sir!"
"And look if there are any survivors in the bunkers. Take good care of them."

In prussian Field HQ, now moved to Danzig.

Günther:"We have Poznan and the 134st Brandenburg Reg. established a bridgehead accros the Weichsel. Mechenized infantry is streaming through the gap and have taken Olsztyn!"
Hinkel:"Great! Award the Brandenburg Reg. with an Iron Cross. (don't say it's a nazi thing, they used it since The German- French war, 1870-1871) Carpet bomb everything between our troops and the Lithuanian Border! We can't have any more delay!"
Günther:"Yes sir!"

Losses:-Prussian 23560 dead, 4326 POW
-Polish Military 43267 dead, 60749 POW
-Polish Civilians 65032 dead

ps. Isn't anyone posting anymore??? :(
Nireva
07-10-2004, 16:55
Ooc.

Sorry, I'm being busy next couple of days. So if I just have time, I will post something here. In IC.

But my troops are doing two things;
1. Proceeding deeper Karelia [Plus, bombarding with the navy, if another navy comes, they attack against it, and Nireva tries to launch about 15 B-52's]
2. They are digged in Estonia, making hard to Latvian movements.

And one more thing, if Nirevans need reinforcements from Latvia, they get them.
Estholad
07-10-2004, 17:51
OOC: Well im in no hurry so ill just wait for your full ic answer. It's better that way.
Nireva
08-10-2004, 15:34
Nireva - Fleet:

Nimitz:

"Alerts! Incoming missiles!"
"Try to destroy them!"
"Already trying!"
"Send the Gripens!"
"Where, sir?"
"Search the area!"
"Roger!"

7 Gripens made the way before first missiles started hitting nearby [Harpoons are better for naval, Tomahawks not so..]

"Sir.. We've getting reports that the missiles are taking at least 30 of our Gripens.."
"Shit.. Keep sending them! Get their position on the screen, and then battleships can fire at them."
"Roger that.."
"More missiles incoming..!"
"Shit.. Can we take them?"
"We've already closed several places out here.. I think we cannot."
"Shit. How many Gripens made the way?"
"13."
"Others..?"
"Too damaged to fly, or destroyed."
"Okay.."
Several explosions came, Nimitz held the place..
"Sir.. Its over.."
"Damage reports!"
"We're sinking.. Slowly."
"How long?"
"3 hours. Max."
"Shit. Evacuate to battleships. And say the Gripens to make fast patrol, then try to make a way out alive to Finland.."
"Roger.."
"This is Gripen 3. Spotting something. Checking target.."
"Okay. Check and go, but first give the coordinates, and send 20 submarines there."
"Roger that."

Nireva - HQ:

"Our Nimitz is destroyed."
"Knew it.. They had something in their pocket.."
"Yeah.. Do we send another?"
"Send a Yorktown."
"Roger."

Nireva - Parliament:

"Send this message:
We are sorry for killing your innocent people. But, it was your fault.
You made attack to here. And that was only way to keep our soldiers alive.
If we'd send bombers, your AA's would take them out. At least after bombard.
Sorry for civilian losses. But you know you will lose. You cannot win.
Leave our country, fall back, and we will stop attacking Karelia. And will not conquer it."

Nireva - HQ:

"How's Prussian proceed?"
"They're doing well. Poland's HQ is supposed to be destroyed."
"Good. We cannot do anything else than wait for help in Estonia."
"Yes. I know."

Latvia - Parliament:

From: Latvia.
To: Karelia.
Subject: Peace?

Message: St. Petersburg was once allied with Nireva, if they join, they join on Nirevans side.
Murmansk? No idea.
Peace? Sure. But.. I'm sure Nirevans want their whole country back.
Not just part of it.
Pretty sure is, that Nirevans would be okay about sharing Estonia.
But not their homeland.
And I'm answering for both of Pskov & us.

...
End of message.

Nireva - Parliament:

From: Nireva
To: Prussia.
Subject: Bombardments.

Message: That was a damn big bombardment. I'd say too big.
Really many civilian casualties. I know you had troubles in there..
But still. We just overpowered with men in Tartu, not making bombardment..
Please, do not do it again.

...
End of message.

Ooc.

I guess that's all..
And I guess my Gripen spotted your boats, Estholad. And my submarines will fire when they see you. You can RP that. :)
Estholad
08-10-2004, 20:15
OOC: Like ur rp'in Nireva. But... Im quite screwed, at least that's what it seem's like. Now my Navy has been played out of the picture, and Latvia&Pskov aren't clearly going to be of any help :P. But however ill play along, since i really don't have nuthin to loose.

Btw. Kinda ironic Nreva critizised Prussia for killing some 65,000 civilian's in bombarding a city. However Nirevan politic's seem to forget one thing.
They just killed almost 500,000 Karelian civilians by missile attack.
:headbang:

By the way, i just suppose that you just push on with attack in Finnish Karelia. However im not going to let you take over any of city's without rp'in it :p. But otherwise my lines will fall back.

Will be back soon IC...
Warta Endor
09-10-2004, 09:53
Near the Lithuanian border, The 34st. Elite Panzer Corps (Iron Maidens) Fight against a last small pocket of Polish Infantry in the area.

"Target found, small bunker!"
"Locked! Fire!"
BOOM! KABANG!
"That one's gone!"

Meanwhile, the Lithuanian government, afraid for their own "Poznan" have signed a treaty with Prussia. Prussia will occupy Lithuania and spare any civilians. The Lithuanian Army will join the Prussian Army in their fight against Latvia.

Hinkel:"We have a treaty with Lithuania. We should have no problems there."
Günther:"Fine diplomatic result! We should rest our troops in Lithuania for 2 weeks (two RL Days) and secure our position. Meanwhile we should start a Bombarding campaign on Latvia. Artillery should join in the last 24 hours before our attack. With a bit of luck we could be in Riga within 72 Hours."
Hinkel:"Great plan! What's our situation in Poland?"
Günther:"Good. We have Krakow and Warschau. We should try to get the remains of the Polish army to surrender."
Hinkel:"Right. To replace civilian losses we could move uor unimployed to Poland. The same could be done in Latvia when we're done."
Günther:"Alright sir."

Losses:-Prussian 32671 Dead, 231 POW (most of them have been rescued)
-Polish Military 49324 123456 POW
-Civilians 103450 Dead
Estholad
09-10-2004, 11:34
OOC: One more thing i need to know before my post. Did my larege scale airstrike on your forces advancing from Jyväskylä to Iisalmi do anything? Could also be good if you rp'd that?

And prussia, now that your armies are in Lithuania you should use the same map as i and Nireva.
Nireva
09-10-2004, 12:25
OOC: One more thing i need to know before my post. Did my larege scale airstrike on your forces advancing from Jyväskylä to Iisalmi do anything? Could also be good if you rp'd that?

And prussia, now that your armies are in Lithuania you should use the same map as i and Nireva.

Ooc.
I thought you delayed your attack as my navy attacked.. :rolleyes:
Well. It comes late.
And yes, Prussia, you should use same map with rest of us.

Ic.

Nireva - En Route to Iisalmi:

"ADAD.."
"Oh shit.. Not again.. AA's ready! Call for Gripens!"
"Roger that."
"This is HQ, 5 Gripens from patrol will join you before enemys will arrive. 25 will join within 10 minutes."
"Roger that, HQ. Okay people, lets get our stingers & Chorales back up. And warn nearby bases to prepare their AA's. I guess some planes can be shot down from there.. With Buk."
"Yes, sir!"
Couple of minutes later, 5 Gripens came.
"They're ours.."
"This is Gripen 4. Spotting.. Oh my.."
"Spotting..?"
"At least.. 15 A.. Something.. 7 B1B Lancers.. And.. At least hundred Gripens.."
"What!?"
"Yes.."
"HQ! Send here at least 700 Gripens!"
"I.. Heard that.. You get 750 Gripens.. First will arrive.. 5 minutes.. Those 25.. Others within 7 minutes."
"Roger, HQ. Others.. Try to bring down B1B Lancers. After you've done that, fire at the other.."
"This is Gripen 2. We cannot take them.. Should we fall back? Or do the suicide?"
"Die with honour, Gripens.. Try to take B1B's out.. I'm sure you'll get the First Class Honour medal.."
"We'll try.. Radar says that there are at least 800 planes.."

5 Gripens made to shoot down 1 B1B Lancer, and damage one other pretty badly.
And 2 Raidens.

Real soon after contact was lost to Gripens, Chorales started firing, stingers were shooted, and trees started falling, men screaming, people dieing..

"Sir! Sir!"
"Yes?"
"We've lost almost all of our Chorales.. But I guess there aren't many B1B's left.."
"Okay.. Keep firing with stingers.."
"Roger.."

"We've lost all our Chorales.. Gripens are here."
"Okay. Good."
"Gripen 23. I'm not spotting any B1B's anymore."
"That's damn good thing.."
"We cannot do anything than fall here.. There's.. Too much."
"Try hang on. 1.5 minutes and your reinforcements will arrive."
"That is impossible.."
"Maybe."
"Sir! No! Sir!"
"Kill.. Me.. Soldier.."
"Yes, sir.."

Soldier shot the lieteunant, who was dieing.

"Major!"
"Yes?"
"Lieteunant's dead."
"All?"
"Yes.."
"Shit.."
"Sir. Gripen's are down. Again."
"Thought so."

Then, Gripens started coming. Nirevan's Gripens.

"HQ, your Gripens are here."
"Yes. We know."

Then, next 25 minutes was really bloody conflict in air. Planes fell from skys like.. Rain.
Many Nirevans died in crashes, but not many.
One reason might be, that there were not many Nirevans alive.

25 minutes later, Karelian planes started retreating.

"Escaping losers!"
"Destroy them. Follow them."
"Roger that, HQ."

3 hours later:
Nireva - HQ:

"Sir.. Reports of losses.."
"Say.."
"At least, 550 Gripens destroyed. Ours. 515,000 dead.. 614 Challengers.. 915 BMP-2's..
"Get one million troops from Estonia.. NOW."
"Roger that, sir."
"And give them 700 new Challengers, 950 BMP-2's."
"Roger."
"And.. Ask UN permission to use landmines! And get 4,000 Tomahawks ready!"
"Roger that, sir.. But UN will not give that permission."
"Ask for it now."
"Roger.."
"And what's the damn ETA of Yorktown?"
"4 hours."
"And it does have good escort?"
"Real good."
"Good."

Ooc. There's the answer.
Warta Endor
09-10-2004, 20:08
Ok, I will use your map. I used an own map because Poland wasn't really good.

Prussian field HQ, Kaunas, Lithuania

Hinkel:"Good, we had a weeks rest. When do we restart our attack?"
Günther:"Bombardments will start tonight. WE rest for another week. We have three main attack armies. Two will follow behind as reserve. The 6th army will serve as occupation army in Lithuania. (Hands over a note with the following stats)

-5 armies 3200000 troops, 1 army 300000 troops
-4500 T90
-750 New Type 90S
-4000 artillery
-1000 Mig29K
-350 SU37 superflankers
-145 B52 will begin bombardments
-20 B2 will attack key defensepoints and military and civilian HQ's'
-550 Apache Longbow will cover troops

Hinkel:"small amount of troops, huh?"
Günther:"It should be large enough."

Meanwhile Bombers take off from airfields in Germany. Migs fly low over roads and defenses, shooting at everything that moved.
Nireva
10-10-2004, 08:34
Nireva - Parliament:

"President?"
"Tell."
"Seems like Prussia is making another bombardment.."
"Cannot they learn anything?! Send a message to them to not bombard any cities!"
"Roger.."
"And.. Start negoating peace between us and Latvia and Pskov.. We need more troops to invade that damn Karelia.."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes."
Warta Endor
10-10-2004, 10:40
Prussian HQ, Kaunas, Lithuania

Günther:"Nireva has send us another telegram to stop any bombardments."
Hinkel:"What! No bombardments! Ourtroops will be slaughtered if we are not allowed to mould enemy positions! But OK, sto any bombardments, but continue with choppers and artillery. Let the migs join in if we meet any resistence."
Günther:"Yes Sir."

ps. Map doesn't upload because its to large :confused:
Estholad
10-10-2004, 11:18
On sea ouside the Karelian Coast

*8 Kotor's maneuvering fast around the Norevan fleet.*
"Huh sir.. i wonder if we're going to get of this easily."
"I bet we won't. That gripen we shot down few minutes ago must have reported about us. I bet we won't..."
"Sir! Something on the sonar! We have 18... no 20 enemy Submarine's incoming."
"Shit. We shall die valiant'ly. Tell all ship's to power up theyr torpedo equipmen't, AND long range missile equipmen't."
"All ship's report ready...* BOOOOM* Damn nr.3 is hit!! Theyr'e sinking.
We have torpedoes incoming all over."
"All ship's, pick target enemy sub's and launch your torpedoes. Also we shall fire a volley of missiles at one of enemy battleship's."

*Suddenly all ship's fire theyre torpedoes at enemy submarine's,(4 torpedoes per ship). Also once again two volley's of longe range missiles leap out. Firs't consisting of 32 Tomahawk's second of 136 128mm missiles.*

"Sir.. We launched the missiles. But we're not going too well. Alreaady lost 3 ships."
"Tell all ship's to keep firing theyr torpedoes agains't the subs! We shall not fail...."

*CRASH* *Suddenly a torpedo hit the command ship, and it started sinking slowly. It still managed to fire off a few torpedoe's, but still it was the equal of gone*

"Siir.. wer'e sinking. And all other ship's are gone too... wer'e dead."
"Don't worry son. We died a good death..."


Petroskoi, `New Karelian HQ

"Give me report on Situation in Finnish Karelia."
"Yes sir. Wer'e slowly loosing ground. We're still holding all major cities we have captured, but enemy is pushing us back elsewhere."
"Part of 2nd Army's troop's have been surrounded in Pudasjärvi."
"How many troop's we have there?"
"100,000 soldier's and 70-t54 tanks. Plus the other equipment. No artillery however."
"We should tell them to hold position's. If the situation get's too desperate they could try to break out however."
"How about elsewhere?"
"3rd Army's still holding on to Kajaani."
"1st Army hs been pushed back to Joensuu, but they'r still holding it rather easily. 4th Army has been put to rest and reserve behind 1st Army's station's."
"Damn... this isn't going how i planned it. How about operation "vihut helvettiin"?"
"Sir we kinda succeeded. We managed to destroy most of enemy ground forces on target, and has been reported over 500 shot down enemy aircraft."
"That sounds almost too god... Own losses?"
"Sir... Our Airforce is gone. We lost over 70% of planes in that attack.
We got back 104 A-15 Raiden's and 29 Gripen's."
"How about B1b's?"
"All gone. Or well... one managed to make emergency landing on ou side of the border. We will be able to repair it rather fast."
"Shit. That's bye bye to our air power. We should start converting civilian factorie's to airplane factorie's in order to restore at least a part of our airforce."
" Well sir, we still have some gripen's left. those 150 in our homeland and 50 with each army. That leave's us with 400 Gripen's."
"But still... Damn."
-----
"Sir we got report's of several Nirevan Gripen's being shot down over our country, heading toward's Finland."
"Whatt? Oh i almost forgot our Naval Battle. How are we doing?"
"Good news or Bad New's firs't?"
"Good?"
"We managed to destroy the enemy Nimitz carrier. And most of it's gripen's too."
"And the bad?"
"Our navy's gone. All 8 Patrol boat's are at the bottom..."
"Shit! How am i supposed to win a war agains't superior enemy with no navy and airforce almost destroyed."
"Maybe we should try to open negotiation's..."
"Yes that's all i can see to do. Send them a message"

---------Message to Nireva---------------

We are willing to end this war. Therefore we make you a proposal.
Let's make a cease-fire and open peace negotiation's? If you agree to this, we will, as an act of good will, pull our troop's out of Pudasjärvi and leave the city to you intact.

---------End of Message-----------------


OOC:
Losses: 27,000 dead, 9,000 wounded, 0 missing
Total Losses:280,000 dead, 161,000 wounded
Equipment losses: 17 t-54
Total Equipment losses: 171 t-54, 17 Howitzer's
Airforce losses: 14 B1-b Lancer's, 271 Gripen's, 396 A-15 Raiden's.
Airforce total losses:315 Gripens, 441 A-25 Raiden's, 19 B1-b Lancer'


And map: http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS/war8.gif
Estholad
10-10-2004, 11:23
OOC: What program you use to edit the map? I use corel photo paint, and after editing it i change it to gif so it doesn't take up so much space.Also i believe there is a limit on how much attachment's you can have on these forum's. You might want to consider taking some free space in etc.
www.brinkster.com
Nireva
10-10-2004, 14:24
Nireva - Fleet:

In leading battleship:

"Detecting.. Multiple missiles.."
"Not again.."
"Yes. Again.."
"Submarines are firing torpedos against them. 168 missiles incoming!"
"What!?"
"Radar says so!"
"Oh shit!"
"Battlestations. Battlestations. This is not a training."
"I hate this."

In leading submarine:

"They're shooting at us.."
"Warn all submarines."
"Roger."
"And keep firing."
"Roger. One is sinking!"
"Good. Keep it going."
"They just fired.. At least 150 missiles."
"Warn battleships!"
"Done."
"Alert! Alert! Alert!"
"Detonated near us.."
"Shit!"
"I'm getting reports that 14, 7, 3, 19, 20 destroyed..
"Go to surface! Evacuate to battleship! Send a Mi-8 to pick us up!"
"Roger!"

5 minutes later;

"They're all destroyed."
"Good. Our losses?"
"3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 16, 19 and 20 destroyed. 8 is evacuating."
"And battleships?"
"They're ok.. Just damaged."
"Okay."

In leading battleship:

"That was bad."
"Yeah.. At least they all didn't fire to same battleship.."
"Guess they were too busy to that."
"All ships.. Just damaged. Many crewmen dead.. But mostly alive."
"Good."

2 hours later:

Nireva - Parliament:

"President. Karelia seems to want to peace. They offer to leave Pudasjärvi for us, but no other cities."
"No way. Say that we will not attack Karelia, if they leave all our citys and fall back on their side of the border. I will not give them any our land. They have one day to answer. If they don't.. We'll take whole Karelia!"
"Roger that, sir.."

Nireva - HQ:

"Sir! Yorktown's ready.. But.. We lost some submarines, as Karelia attacked again.. And our battleships are all damaged.."
"But not destroyed?"
"Not destroyed."
"Good. Prepare our attack."
"Proceed to Joensuu, give them 30 Apaches, 100 Challenger II's and 500 BMP-2's. Thought there were million troops?" [It's much, Joensuu's pretty big, but I guess they'll lose some parts of it on the way..]
"Actually, about 800,000. Other's dead."
"Oh.. Okay. And another.. Million to Kajaani. With same support."
"That's just about 750,000.."
"Well.. Then give them 35 Apaches. And 120 Challengers."
"Roger."
"And that team who was proceeding to Iisalmi, let them have Pudasjärvi. With 50 Apaches."
"Roger."
"And you have those 4,000 Tomahawks ready?"
"Of course, sir."
"Good. Send them to.. 500 to Kesten'ga, 1,000 to Kostomuksha, 500 to Olonets, 500 to Nojyv Masezero, 500 to Segezha, 500 to Severnyj, and 500 to Petrozavodsk. And battleships bombard any smaller towns nearby coast."
"Roger that, sir.."
"And I really hope that they will surrender.. They know that they cannot win.. And they know we will not give any land.."
"I know.. I know.."

Latvia - Parliament;

"What Pskov thinks about peace?"
"They want peace."
"Okay. Open negotigations [sp?] with Nireva. "
"Yes, sir!"

Ooc.

Losses;

Nireva; 1,215,129 dead [everywhere], 150,512 wounded. 1,612 missing.
Pskov; 16,136 dead. 5,518 wounded. 612 missing.
Latvia; 9,518 dead. 951 wounded. 6 missing.
Estholad
10-10-2004, 20:17
OOC: There wer'e 2 things you at least seemed to misunderstand.
1. My ship's did all fire at the same battleship. But that's not big thing so it doesn't matter.
2. I offered to leave Pudasjärvi just to get the cease-fire and negotiation's started. That doesn't say yet how much land i could give you for permanent peace.
Nireva
10-10-2004, 20:56
OOC: There wer'e 2 things you at least seemed to misunderstand.
1. My ship's did all fire at the same battleship. But that's not big thing so it doesn't matter.
2. I offered to leave Pudasjärvi just to get the cease-fire and negotiation's started. That doesn't say yet how much land i could give you for permanent peace.

Ooc.
1. Well. Then, sorry. But I'm sure it isn't big thing, as then 1 battleship would sunk, others really in shape.

2. Um. Well. Yes. Now that I think it again.
Seems like Nireva doesen't want to start negotiations with Karelia. :p
And anyway; I made Nirevan's position clear; Leave Finland alone, Nireva will not attack Karelia. Don't leave Finland alone, Karelia's gone.
Estholad
12-10-2004, 15:01
OOC: So if i understood right Nireva doesn't consider any negotiation's before all Karelian troop's have retreated from the so called "Finnish Karelia", (Wich belong's bo New Karelia by right ;) ).
Nireva
12-10-2004, 16:31
OOC: So if i understood right Nireva doesn't consider any negotiation's before all Karelian troop's have retreated from the so called "Finnish Karelia", (Wich belong's bo New Karelia by right ;) ).

Ooc.
Yes. That's right.
And If Nireva succeed negotiations with Latvia & Pskov, Karelia's gone. Fast.
Survo
12-10-2004, 16:40
Sudenly a huge lumbering transport plane roared over head.
"Nerveva, this is Ekuroplan Delta of Survo requesting permission to land on longest runway, if none are long enough please vectore to nearest large body of water, over. our cargo is 2,000 T3s just sent from Survo, crew is on the way."
the huge plane flew inot a holding pattern.
Estholad
13-10-2004, 15:01
OOC: Have been kinda hurry in real life.. But i'll post as soon as i have enough time.
Warta Endor
13-10-2004, 17:13
Internet was down for a cpouple of days but I see not much has changed :D

Prussian HQ, Kaunas

Hinkel:"What's the estimated result of our artillery shootings?"
Günther:"With the extra time we had, the latvian defences should be weakened by now. I still strongly ask for permission to bombard in the most extreme cases according to commanders in the field."
Hinkel:"I wil sent a telegram to Nireva. What other news?"
Günther:"We have reports of negotiations between Nireva, Latvia, Pskov and Karelia."
Hinkel:"Hmmm. Sent our troops in Latvia."

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ

We understand your concerns about bombardments so I orderd a pause on bombardments by air. We will give our full tactical air support needed if we meet any resistence.

Signed, Gen Hinkel

Meanwhile tanks and other armoured troops cross the border.
Nireva
15-10-2004, 14:23
Nireva - HQ:

"Sir.. Survo is offering help. They ask for a air field where they can land."
"Denie. We don't have alliance with them. If they keep coming, fire with AA's."
"Roger."

To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Bombardments.

Message: We do understand that some places must be bombarded.
But. Do not bombard any old buildings/cities.
As we did not bombard Tartu.

...
End of message.

Latvia - HQ:

"Sir! Prussia is attacking at us!"
"What!? Oh.. Great.. Call our all forces from Estonia!"
"All?"
"All! And ask for Pskov's help! Open full negotigations [SP?] with Nireva! I'm sure they will accept the peace! Give them.. Whole Estonia. If that's ok with Pskov!"
"Roger.. Sir.."

As general commanded, colonel went and sent a message to Pskov, where they asked for help.

Soon, Pskov's & Latvian forces started moving to Latvian borders. Leaving Estonia. Nirevans forces did not proceed.
ETA of Latvian & Pskovn forces of arriving aries that Prussia is firing is 6 days. But many parts of the military will arrive before.

Ooc. Estholad, so am I.. So am I..

Losses:

Nireva: 291,159 dead. [Most in Finland]. 41,622 wounded. 812 missing.
Latvia: 15,215 dead. 9 wounded. 0 missing.
Pskov: 6,011 dead. 78 wounded. 2 missing.
Warta Endor
15-10-2004, 16:46
Prussian HQ, Kaunas

Günther:"Sir, Latvia and Prkov are coming with their entire force to our front!"
Hinkel:"Damn! Let our troops fortificy (sp?) their positions! I'll sent a telegram to Nireva asking for help."
Günther:"I suggest you take a seat at the peace talks. If we don't we will be overrun!"
Hinkel:"We'll wait and see. If casualties are running to high we sign a cease fire. Meanwhile let engineers build fortifications along the lithuanian border. Call 450000 troops from Poland and 550000 troops from Prussia.Mobilize the remaining resreves and male population fit for Military duty (about 1.6 million). Let the 650000 from Poland and Prussia defend the future fortifications. The remaining 350000 troops and the 6th army advance into Latvia to reinforce the current front of the 3rd and 5th armies. What are the chances of a storm assault on Riga?"
Gunther:"A bit small sir. I suggest you let migs attack the oncoming enemy columns. Destroy any infrasatructure (bridges, Railroads, roads) behind their frontline."
Hinkel:"OK. When will the troops arrive??? Meanwhile let the 2nd, 4th and 6 bataljons of the 5 army (ten bataljons in each army) storm to Riga. (about 2250000 troops and 3400 T90) The Su37 must bombard any defences between our front and Riga. After the bombarding, 25000 para's and 12000 special forces will land near Riga, Capturing the city and aproach roads. Speed is crucial to succed. Let the first army attack the area west of Riga supported bu 600 T90 and 500 Type 90S."
Günther:"Yes sir. The troops from Poland should arrive in 1.5 days and 3 days from Prussia."
Hinkel:"That's good."

Meanwhile on the easternfront (3rd and rest of 5th just over the Daugava river) troops dig in and lay minefields were possible.

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ

Our intelligence report that large amounts of troops are pulling out of Estonia to our front. We request to take this chance and move into Latvia. We will make a Storm assault on Riga and western Latvia. We would appreciate(sp?) if you could continue to put on pressure on Latvia and Pskov.

signed, Gen Hinkel.

Casualties:2351 dead, 14353 wounded and 5 missing.

ps. What is the size of the Latvian and Pskovian forces???
Warta Endor
15-10-2004, 17:00
In a corridor in the Prussian HQ, Kaunas

Adm. Sauschnit:"What! Hinkel refuses to negotiate??? He's out of his mind!"
Günther:"Yes, he waits till the casualties are high!!! He has completly lost any sense of reality!"
Gen. Näuzer:"Well, maybe this is the right tactic. If we can hold out against Latvia and Pskov and Capture Riga, Latvia will surrender!"
Günther:"Says who? We will wait to more days. If nothing has changed we force Hinkel to sign a cease fire or even better a peace treaty. Otherwise I will take command and we will kill Hinkel."
Näuzer:"Agree!"
Sauschnit:"Totally Agree!"
Nireva
15-10-2004, 20:25
Ooc. Actually, a good point. Haven't thought about their size of the army. [But it's much bigger than in RL]
Hm.. As I am busy, would you want to RP at least Latvia?

Ic.

Message to Prussia from Nireva:

Sorry, but we are unavaivable to move to Latvia. And we're already ceased fire in Estonia! We need more time to push Karelian forces out of our mainland.
After that. We'll think about it again.
Sorry, but we cannot give any help currently.. Thanks to Karelia.

Ooc.
Hemmetti. Näytönohjain hajosi. :rolleyes: [Sorry, it's Finnish. But it's nothing important. Just said something broke in my comp.. No idea what it's in English.]
Estholad
15-10-2004, 21:27
Petroskoi, New Karelian Army HQ

"Report on how our Navy did?"
"Ok sir. We managed to take out couple of enemy subs. We didn't manage to sink any enemy battleship's, but most of them are nicely damaged."
"Well that doesn't sound too bad. Outside the thing that we have no navy anymore."
"Wait... that's not all. New enemy Aircraft Carrier has appeared to the enemy fleet with a rather strong escort."
"Shit."
"How about our proposal of cease-fire with them?"
*BOOOMMM BADANGGG CRASSHHH BOOOM*
"WTF!?!?!? Report NOW!!!"
"Sir! We have Cruise missiles Incoming again. This time to all of our major cities! Also report's of battleship's bombarding our coastal town's and villages.
Wer'e getting HUGE civilian losses."
"WHAT THE FUCK are the Nirevan's thinking about!?!? We ask them for peace and they answer by murdering innocent civilian's! Did we get any answer from them other than this?"
"Just that they won't negotiate with us unless we surrender!"
(OOC: Sry i know that's not what you said but my communication's are bit shook up by ur missiles.)
"SHIT. I WILL NOT let them get away with this. We shall retaliate immediately. I will not tolarate any Karelian civilians killed without reason."
"What action's do you recommend sir?"
"We will repriorise our war in Finland now! Our new goal is not to conquer Finnish Karelia, but to DESTROY it and ELIMINATE all the civilian's there."
"Yes Sir! We will kill of all Nirevan pig's!"
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"Sir, we have major enemy assault's everywhere!."
"Our troop's have been pushed back to Joensuu, and fighting is going on at the street's."
"Our troop's in Pudasjärvi are taking heavy casualties, we have only 30 000 troop's left there. Theyr going to die off soon."
"3rd Army has been forced to retreat from Kajaani After taking heavy casualties. They still managed to blow out most of the city before they left. And shoot most of enemy civilian's still in town. However they didn't have time to hunt down all of the civilian's."
"Ok. Pudasjärvi's troop's should die to last man, and try to destroy as much enemy infrastructure with them as possible. Also 2nd and 5th army will hunt down and shoot any Nirevan civilian's in Kuusamo and Taivalkoski and around the cities, and turn the cities in to ruin's. That should make them also better defendable *grin*."
"3rd Army should destroy any road's and bridges as it retreat's, and also kill any civilian's and destroy any building's.Also command it's artillery to fire at Kajaani as long as it's in range."
"In south command 4th army to engage the battle in Joensuu, and try drive back the attacker's, and then blow up the city. If you can't drive off them then just destroy as much of it as possible. Also 4th army should send out patrol's to kill and destroy anything Nirevan between Joensuu and and border"
"Also we should destroy all road's on Nirevan territory as our forces are forced to retreat."
"Also call the 6th army to arm's. We need all the troop's we can muster."
"Ok sir, all those vcan be done. Altough calling 6th army to arm's will take week's, and even then it will be rather badly armed with quite few armored support."
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"Forgot one thing. How many plane's we have in our homeland?"
"180 Gripen's and 120 A-15 raiden's."
"Ok. Arm them with torpedoes, and send them to attack the enemy Naval fleet. Try to take out the battleship's one by one. "
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"Report on diplomatic situation. Prussia has attacked Latvia and Pskov, and they have made peace with Nireva. That mean's bad for us."
"Shit. Now Nireva can concentrate against us. But still... we will get our revenge."
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"Still one more thing. Do we have those Tomahawk's that were used with Kotor Patrol boat's in our harbors?"
"Yes. And we even have capacity to launch them by ground."
"How many?"
"Just 500, and we don't even produce them."
"Still that's kinda enough. Launch them all at Helsinki. Target them at the central area of Helsinki, we should leave the suburbs alone. Be sure to destroy that damn Nirevan symbol warehouse called Stockmann. Heard theyre having sale's there right now, so we should get many Nirevan's killed with that.
"Ok sir. We will launch the missile's, but we need a couple of hour's for preparation."

OOC: Phew.
Losses:
Losses: 62,000 dead, 38,000 wounded, 0 missing
Total Losses:342,000 dead, 199,000 wounded
Equipment losses: 62 t-54 , 8 Howitzer's
Total Equipment losses: 233 t-54, 25 Howitzer's
Airforce losses: 3 Gripen's
Airforce total losses:318 Gripens, 441 A-25 Raiden's, 19 B1-b Lancer'

civilian losses
new: 1,123,000 dead, 1,200,000 wounded
total: 1,601,000, 1,755,000 wounded
Map:
http://www25.brinkster.com/delehosting/NS/war9.gif
Nireva
16-10-2004, 09:05
Ooc. A small one.

Just to say.. My resistance will not like your way to kill citizens.. And will CR will get even more recruits. They have weapons. But they don't have more than some have basic training of soldier. The older ones. But they're not in shape anymore..

And that Stockmann thing, made me laugh. :D
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 09:49
Prussian HQ, Kaunas

Hinkel:"Damn! We don't get any support from Nireva!
Günther:"That's great! We're alone now!"
Hinkel:"What about our assault on Riga?"
Günther:"Good sir, We're in Riga now, but there's heavy resistence. We almost control all the territory west of Riga, but the casualties are high."
Hinkel:"Go on. I start peace talks in 24 hours. Our demands are that we keep all lands we conquered."
Günther:"Yes Sir."

ps What are the latvian and Pskovian forces???
Nireva
16-10-2004, 12:00
Ooc. This happened, before Prussia made advance to Riga [Map says they did]:

Ic.

Latvia - Parliament:

"What are you doing?!"
"We must take you.. Sir."
"What the hell is going on!?"
"Sir. You are now the prisoner. Not the president."
"What?!"
"Now. Come."
"NO!"
"I will shoot you, if I have to. Will give Prussia something to think."
"Shi-"
"Do you come?"
"I.. No."

Soldier shot Latvian president.

Latvia - HQ [In Matisi]:

"Sir.. President is dead."
"Okay. Good. Contact to Prussia. Surrender."
"Sir..?"
"Do it."
"Yes, sir.."
"Call all our forces here."
"Sir?"
"Do it."
"Roger.."

Pskov - HQ:

"President. I suggest we surrender."
"What do they want?"
"The land that they have captured. Nothing from us."
"Surrender.. We lost this war.."
"Roger!"

Ooc. Size of those armies: Latvia: 4.9 million troops. Pskov: 3.5 million troops + 2 million in homeland.

And this happens now.

Ic.

Nireva - HQ:

"We have cease fire with Latvia & Pskov. But their troops already left.."
"Okay. That's fine. Call 10 million troops from there." [Lets say.. There's still 5 million. Total.]
"Roger that, sir."
"And what's the damn ETA?"
"About 1 day per million."
"Roger."
"And I order them to..?"
"Kajaani."
"Sir..? It's under artillery fire."
"What!? Send 5 B-52's to take artillerys out! With 50 Gripens covering!"
"Roger."

Nireva - Parliament:

"Sir. Incoming missiles to here. We must go to bunker."
"Full alert to citizens!"
"Already doing. Now come."
"Okay okay.."

Nireva - HQ:

"About 500.. Tomahawks, supposed, are heading to Helsinki, or area near it."
"Fire them with Buk M1's."
"Already firing.. We cannot take many."
"General!"
"Yes, mr. president?"
"Kill that leader of Karelia.. They kill our innocent citizens!"
"Yes, mr. president. But.. We have reports that they have started killing our own citizens in Finland!"
"What!? Oh.. Fire with a damn nuke! A small one!"
"No! Sir! No! That's dangerous for us!"
"Use.. Tomahawks then."
"Roger."
"Sir.. Helsinki is under fire now.. We made to shoot down 23 Tomahawks before it started.. About 100 will blow in sea."
"Okay.. How many Tomahawks do we have left?"
"40,000"
"Good. Prepare 5,000 of them. And fire 500 to any bigger military camp/base. 100 to smaller ones. If theres any left after bases are being fired, use all left to their HQ."
"We.. Don't know where it is.."
"Capitol then!"
"Roger. And, we did not get permission to use land mines.."
"Shit."

To: Karelia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: End of you.

Message: You made it. You really want to give your whole Karelia to us!
Surrender, and we will not kill your soldiers.
Surrender, and we'll let you live.
Surrender, or we will kill more Karelian people with Tomahawks.
We do not want to kill your citizens. But we must.

...
End of message.

5 B-52's & 50 Gripens leaved their bases to destroy artillery firing.

Ooc. Losses:

Military lost; 712,214 dead. 1,412 wounded. 165 missing.
Civilian lost; 2,215,511 dead. 512,159 wounded.

I will RP the Navy later.
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 12:01
Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ

We request permission to land 60000 marines in Finland for support against Karelia. They will bring with them:
-500 T-90
-500 artillery
-2 squadrons of Mig 29K and 3 squandrons of Su37 (50 Migs and 75 Su37

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Nireva
16-10-2004, 12:06
Ooc. Fast answer to Prussia.

Ic.
Nireva - HQ:

"Sir. You can see the losses.."
"That.. Many.."
"Yes. And Prussia contacted us."
"What they have to say?"
"Want to place some troops here."
"Oh. Good. By sea or by air?"
"No idea."
"Okay. If they come by sea, let them come by Turku, then move from there.
If by air.. To Kajaani. Once Karelian artillery is destroyed."
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 12:17
Prussian HQ, Kaunas

Günther:"Sir, the latvian president is dead! they surrender!"
Hinkel:"HAHA! My strategy worked! Cease Fire and open negotiations with Latvia and Pskov."
They walk to the map and Hinkel draws a line.
Hinkel:"Here, the marked territory is stays Latvian. The blue lines will be returned to Latvia in 5 years."
Günther:"Yes sir! I still can't believe that they surrendered. And what with Pskov?"
Hinkel:"Pskov will have to reduce they're forces to 2.5 Million. Latvia will have to reduce their troops to 2 million. Send 2 million troops, 2450 artillery and 3000 T-90 from Latvia to Finland for the war against Karelia. Sent them by SEA . That is if Nireva accepts our Help."
Günther:"Yes Sir."
Hinkel:"And give 3 days free and national celebrations throughout the country."
Günther:"OK sir."
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 12:27
Prussian HQ now in Riga.

Hinkel:"I've got another idea. If we drop 15000 para's and 2500 special forces in Karelia, what would be the effect?"
Günther:"Probaly a lot of confusion. We could do that."
Hinkel:"OK, I will send a telegram to Nireva."

Telgram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ
Greetings!
We would like to drop Para's and special forces behind Karelian Lines to create confusion and maybe a rapid leave of Karelia from Finland.

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Nireva
16-10-2004, 17:39
Ooc. Propaganda? Your troops did not kill the president.. Latvian did. :p

Ic.

Nireva - HQ:

"We'll get Prussian reinforcements by sea."
"Good."
"And.. They'd like to paradrop to Karelia.."
"That's.. Suicide."
"That's what I thought.."
"Say them to feel free to do that, but also say that it is a suicide."
"Roger."
"And inform our troops where they will be paradropped."
"Roger."

Nireva - Fleet, Yorktown:

"Sir. I'm picking up fighters from radar!"
"Full alert!"
Gripens started rolling outside, and patrolling area, all battleships were warned, and their SAM's were ready.

"Gripen 1, spotting enemys.. Damn many.."
"Everyone. We have a job to do, destroy any enemies."
"Love to."

Battleships shot their first SAM's. 95 Gripens started shooting enemy fighters.

"There's just too many! We are falling like. Birds!"
"I got it, Ruotsalainen!"
"Thanks, buddy!"
"Look out!"
"I got i.."
"46 is down."
"They're mostly firing.. Torpedoes to sea.. They're trying to destroy battleships!"
Knew it.. "All battleships. They are after you."
"I know.. We cannot take this much anymor.."
"It is sinking?"
"No, sir. I guess it is just their radio."
"Hope so.."

Pretty soon, 1 battleship was sinking fast. 2 was sinking, but slow.

"Sir.. At least 80 fighters are shot down. But there just keep coming more and more.."
"We can handle it."
"I hope.. Sir. We're sinking fast.."
"Thought they were one by one?"
"The another.. Sinking real fast.."
"How many Gripens we have in air?"
"Just about 14.."
"Shit.."
"Just keep firing.."

After the conflict, 4 Arizona BBG's sunk.
1 needed drydocking, and it immediatly leaved to Finland.
3 was damaged, but they staied.
And for Yorktown. It had only 10 Gripens left.

"Damn bad.."
"Yeah.."
"You, keep firing. Fire your Tomahawks [They have each 2].."
"Where?"
"Segezha. And keep bombarding.. I need to get new airwing.."
"This is HQ. I heard it.. You'll get new.. ETA; 2.5 hours."
"Thanks, HQ."
"And you get 5 new Arizonas."
"Thanks again."
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 18:25
Prussian HQ, Riga.

Günther:"When will the drop begin?"
Hinkel:"We will wait till all our forces are in Finland. This is going to be a combined attack. Land forces will storm enemy lines and Para's will hold key potitions for advance and create confusion."
Günther:"So we have to wait two more days."
Hinkel:"Yes that's right."
Estholad
16-10-2004, 21:34
OOC: Dont have time to post IC now, but just couple of points.
I just want to make sure you understand what my troop's are doing to your land. Theyr crushing down/éxploding every single building that is not used by my soldier's. And they shoot on sight before asking if see a Nirevan citizen. Also i have hunt&destroy patrols going around the area controlled by me to find any CR or destroy/kill anything Nirevan that has been able to hide for this long.

Just wanted to make sure you understand the scale of genocide im committing here.
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 21:57
Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ

After receiving reports of large scale genocide, we propose a systimatic bombing on civilian targets (cities, industry). What your answer will be, Prussian Strategic Air Force (350 B52 and 50 B2) starts carpet bombing of Karelian military targets and frontlines in 1.5 hours. We suggest you will order your air force to do the same, as the stragety worked in Poland with heavy resistence (Poznan).

Signed, Hinkel
Warta Endor
16-10-2004, 22:12
Somewhere above the Baltic, 50000 feet, 5 B2 are on a special mission to Petrozavodsk, each bearing the maximum payload (I believe 18000 kilos) on napalm and high explosive bombs.

"Red leader to rest, 650 miles to target."
"Roger that."
"Copy sir."
"Roger."
"Roger that sir."

The randomly drop their bombs, not caring if it were civilian area's or military area's.
Nireva
17-10-2004, 09:08
Nireva - HQ:

"Contact to president!"
"Roger that.."
"Yes, general Taivalsalo?"
"President.. Karelian got mad.. They're.. Killing every single civilian and building that is not in their use.."
"What!?"
"Sir.. They're.. Out of their mind.."
"Unleash the Hell. Now."
"Roger that.. Damn that we didn't buy Chemical weapons.."
"Yeah.. Use the I.R.S's.
"Love to. I'd might suggest something small nuclear weapons.. If they doesen't stop it."
"You got free hands.."
"Thank you, sir. Already up?"
"No. But I'm going up after it's secured from any chemicals or raditation. We're just checking."
"Good. Colonel.. Fire 2,000 I.S.R's to any bigger civilian or military industry or camp. Now. And send 2 Ohio SSBN's to Karelia. If we need to use their nuclear weaponry.."
"Yes, sir.. And there's a message coming from Prussia!"
"I'll get it."

To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Carpet bombing.

Message: No. I wouldn't like to blow up Nirevan cities..
Unless there's just the buildings that Karelians saved for fortressing..
We are unleashing the Hell now. And I'm gonna leave 1 million troops to Estonia.
All others come to Nireva, and attack Karelia..
And we are bombarding Karelia, not Nireva, we make them pay from what they're doing.

...
End of message.

To: Karelia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Killing INNOCENT civilians..

Message: We are sorry to kill your innocent civilians, but we have no choice.
You must understand that before start destroying our buildings and innocent civilians.
Start retreating from Nireva within 3 hours, and we will not attack Karelia.
If you do not. We will unleash the Hell.
I hope you do understand.

...
End of message.
Warta Endor
17-10-2004, 09:14
Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ-High Security-

We meant Karelian civilian area's. We already started small bombardments. As for chemical weapons, we have enough mustard gas to avenge any killed Nirevans. If you approve we could attack Karelia with Mustard gas.

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Nireva
17-10-2004, 12:20
To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Chemicals.

Message: No. Not yet.. If they have any chemicals.. And they use it..
It will be real bad for all of us.
And then we'd have to use our smaller nuclear weapons.
So. Do not use them, at least yet.

...
End of message.

Ooc. Busy..
Estholad
17-10-2004, 18:46
OOC: If i understood you are Tomahawking and Carpet bombing only grounds inside my border's, not the areas i have captured?

IC:
New Karelian HQ

"So.. how is the battle going?"
"Not too good sir. But most of Finnish Karelia is in ruins and its people dead by now. But were being pushed back."
"Shit. Give me more specs."
"Pudasjärvi was lost. Our troops there died to last man, and managed to destroy most of the city."
"2nd and 5th Army have otherwise been left to quite much peace, and they have done good work with the "clearings"."
"3rd Army is being pushed backwards slowly. Enemy made a rather large scale Air Assault to destroy 3rd army's artillery's. They managed to destroy large amount of our howitzer's, but 3rd army's 50 Gripen's managed to drive enemy's away, altough taking heavy casualties."
"4th and 1st Army are mainly holding the Ruins of Joensuu, but its expected they will be driven out of there soon."
"Also calling 6th army to arm's is going quite well."
"That's not sounding so bad. How about our air assault against Nirevan navy?
Managed to destroy about 4 battleship's and caused heavy casualties to Nirevan air wing there. Altough our own air force is again almost destroyed."
"We got back only 94 Gripen's and 20 A-15 Raidens."
"Shit. Call all Gripen's from the army's to cover our own sky. How many we have then?"
"344 Gripen's covering our own sky."
*Bbbooooommmm*
"Not again..... Report!"
"Once again we have tomahawk's coming all over our country. They seem to have a huge suplly of them. Our civilian casualties are growing every second."
--------------------------------------------
"Sir!"
"What now?"
"Air Defence and Gripen's report they have been shooting down large number's of enemy B52 and B2 bomber's. "
"Nirevan?"
"No, by report's seems that they are Prussian."
"Also seems that for some reason they seem to working without any fighter cover, that makes them easy catches for our gripen's. Altough there are huge number's of them, and we aren't able to stop them from bombarding."
"All this bombarding and tomahawking has almost killed off the remaining's of 6th Army we were able to muster."
"Good for our army that they seem to watch out for bombing Nirevan ground that we have captured. Therefore most of our armies are staying intact."
"Yes, but our civilians are dying. They seem to be comitting a larger genocide than we could have ever been able to do in Finnish Karelia."
-----------------------------------------
"Shit... all these lives. I wonder if we should stand down?"
"NO! I WILL NOT give up... i can't... but all these lives... what should i do...."
"Sir message from Nireva! They offer peace if we retreat from Finnish Karelia now. Otherwise they say they will "unleash the hell". I bet they would use chemical or nuclear weapon's, they seem to be crazy enough."
"Damn.... what the hell can i.....im so tired.... all these civilians...... shit."
*Slowly he rises up from his chair. Then, in front of all his general's he pulls out his pistol. He looks at it for a moment, and rises it to the side of his head.
Suddenly he says "Do good, my brothers", and shoot's the pistol. He collapses to the floor, and the general's remain silent for not knowing what to do.*
----------------
*After 15 minutes the general's seem to calm down enough to begin talking.*
"Shit... he was a tough guy indeed. But we should really withdraw."
"Yes... theres no way we can win this war. Order all troop's to withdraw."
"Also inform Nireva that we will stand down."

----------Message to Nireva------------------
Weve had enough. Our troop's will begin theyr retreat immediately.
----------End of Message-------------------

------------------
*Everywhere along the Finnish Karelia Karelian troop's start theyr long journey back to Karelian border. Many soldier's have tear's in theyr eyes as they walk through the burnt and destroyed land... what a waste war relly is! Still they are mainly happy becouse they get back to their families. But many will not, as Nirevan and Prussian bombardment's have killed many families.

What a waste indeed.*



OOC: Losses:
Losses:
Losses: 120,000 dead, 142,000 wounded, 0 missing
Total Losses:462,000 dead, 341,000 wounded
Equipment losses: 68 t-54 , 772 Howitzer's
Total Equipment losses: 301 t-54, 797 Howitzer's
Airforce losses: 122 Gripen's, 100 A-25 Raiden's
Airforce total losses:440 Gripens, 541 A-25 Raiden's, 19 B1-b Lancer'
civilian losses
new: 2,675,000 dead, 2,200,000 wounded
total: 4,276,000, 3,955,000 wounded
Warta Endor
17-10-2004, 21:22
Prussian HQ, Riga

Günther:"Karelia is retreating from Finland! The war is over!"
Hinkel:"It was about time though. Demobilize the army to about 2.7 million. Throw in another national holiday and celebration. I will hold a parade in Berlin in a week with 300000 forces."
Günther:"Yes sir."
Nireva
18-10-2004, 09:43
Nireva - HQ:

"Sir! We got a message from Karelia! They're retreating!"
"At last!"
"But.. There are only ruins of our buildings.. There's.. Almost nothing left.."
"Are in Karelia? I don't think there is.."
"Yeah.. What a waste of money.."
"And lives."
"Yeah.."
"Send a message to president. And say to Karelia that they will change their whole parliament. To pretend this from happening again.. And, send our forces to cover all of those cities, there might be some forces. And aid any people there. Even Karelian."
"Yes, sir!"
"And.."
"Yes..?"
"Nothing.."
"Should we make a parade?"
"Parade? Becose of what!? Becose of destroyed cities!?"
"No.. Becose.. We won the war."
"Won!? Everyone lost. Everyone who was in the war. Many lives was lost!"
"Y-"
"Shut up. Leave."

Colonel leaved..

General thought. He thought that he'd find another job..
He couldn't take anymore killing..
He watched the names of dead people.. There were.. Many.
He did not care the equipment lost. He didn't watch even it.

Nireva - President [As parliament is destroyed..]:

"Sir. Karelian surrender."
"At last.."
"Yeah."
"How.. How many died in here..?"
"Many.. Really many.."
"All.. Civilians.."
"Yeah.."
"Leave me alone, will you?"
"Sure.."

President thought.
He'd never give a permission to attack..
He thought that he doesent even want to be president anymore.
Nireva
18-10-2004, 12:25
Pskov - HQ:

"Sir. All our forces is now in our borders.. And.. Karelia retreated from Finland."
"So the war is over, for all?"
"I.. Think so."
"Good. And Latvians get the part of Estonia, which Nireva didn't take?"
"That's.. Bit unclear.. Now Finland can.. Attack again."
"Shit.. We won't come to that.."
"Good.."

Nireva - President:

"Contact to HQ."
"Um. General.. Quit."
"Contact the leading officer then!"
"That's.. Colonel."
"Where's the other generals?!"
"We.. We don't know. Dead, I suppose.."
"How the.."
"We do not know that."
"Sabotage?"
"I don't think so."
"Well. Contact that colonel then."
"Roger."
---
"Mr. president?"
"How's the negotigations? [SP?]"
"Fine. We'll give Põlva to Latvia, other is us.. I mean other that we captured."
"That's.. Enough. As we got part of Norway too."
"Yeah. And it was more important."
"I know. Keep doing the good job.."
"Roger."

Lucky me.. Elections are soon.. I don't have to be president anymore then..
Warta Endor
19-10-2004, 18:24
Hinkel's Mansion, Berlin, Germany

Hinkel:"Latvia still hasn't answered?"
Günther:"No sir, but they are busy negotiating with Nireva, the should answer after they are finished."
Hinkel:"Hmmm, do we have a complete list of casualties now? I'm quite concerned that the casualties are high."
Günther:"We have them now. (hands over a large, thick file) We've lost many men, and in our new conquered territory civilian casualties are high aswell."

(short list)

Prussian Military Casualties-1587434 dead (about 1.5 million)
wounded-3256741 (3.2 million)
Missing(probaly POW)-12304
Polish Military Casualties-657384 dead
wounded-903426
POW-123874 (working on rebuilding Poland for 5 years)
Polish Civilian Casualties-324954 dead

Lithuanian Volunteer army (saw action in Latvia)-4023 dead
-6245 wounded
-12 missing
Telegram to Latvia and Pskov

We ask for the release of any Prussian POW's who are in your hands. We also hereby declare that Latvian and Pskovian POW's are beeing released in 2 weeks.

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Nireva
20-10-2004, 15:18
Latvia - HQ:

"Sir.. Here's what Prussia wants.."
"Damn.. Damn much.. But.. We have no choice.."
"Yeah.. So, we give?"
"Yes. Say them to release our POWs. We can pick them up, but we want them."
"Roger.."

Pskov - HQ:

"Seems like Nireva does not attack."
"Good."
"I know."
"And our intelligence has said that Nirevan general quit, and other generals are missing."
"Missing?"
"Yes."
"Might be damn good time to attack.. If we can gather allies. But, I don't think we can. They have too big military might."
"Yeah."
"Do we got any messages from Prussia?"
"Yes, they want us to release our POWs."
"Say that they need to release our POWs first. Then we do it. But, do not harm any POW.."
"Yes, sir.."

Who knows what happens, if they do not release them..? War keeps going?
But I cannot give their POWs there first.. They might cheat.. Of course I could ask for Karelian and Latvian help.. But.. War would keep going like it were before this..

No way.
Nireva
20-10-2004, 15:42
Nireva - HQ:

Hm.. Nice chair.. Colonel thought, and started looking for casualties, the list was just arrived.

Lives:

10,957,705 dead
255,390 wounded
1,518,218 missing

Equipment:

Tomahawks: 15,000
T-72's: 111,681
SISU's: 155,212
Challenger 2's: 10,215
Chorales: 9,183

Aircraft:
Gripens: 9,215
Learjets: 5,129
Apaches: 978

Ooc. I would say those to be pretty realistic, I did not count them exactly.
They might be big.. But.. Then they are. :p
Warta Endor
20-10-2004, 16:51
Prussian HQ, Berlin

Günther: "Sir, we have an answer from Pskov and Latvia. They're answering positive."
Hinkel: "Good. Move the release date. Make it....two days for Latvia and Psov. We want our POW's tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. If we don't get them without a good reason or some of them were tortured or treated badly, we have enough reason to continue the war."
Günther:"Yes sir."

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Latvian and Pskovian HQ

We expect the POW's in two days at the most. We first want our own POW's back and then you get yours. As for the occupied territory, the blue marked territory will be handed over in 5 years, the rest we will keep. As you can see we have decreased the occupied territory. If you think the demands are to harsh, think about this fact.

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Warta Endor
20-10-2004, 16:52
Forgot the map :D
Nireva
20-10-2004, 17:50
Pskov - HQ:

"Sir.. Prussia wants to get their POWs first. Then we'll get ours."
"No way."
"They say that they will be tortured, if they won't get them in 2 days."
"Then we will torture too. Send that message."
"Roger."
"And.. Add to it that we have still good military might. All wasn't in use in Estonia. Warn them."
"Roger."

Latvia - HQ:

"2 days and they must have POWs."
"Send them. Now."
"Roger."

Nireva - HQ:

To: Karelia, Latvia & Pskov.
From: Nireva.
Subject: POWs.

Message: I am sure that you have Nirevan POWs in your camps.
So we order you, to send them here NOW. You get 50% of the POWs now,
They are well treated, having no problems.. Yet.
If you do not send all POWs within next 2 days, we have to torture our POWs.
If you do send, we will send last 50% when we got them.

...
End of message.

Addon for Karelia:
If you have killed all of POWs of yours, you will pay $1 million to each family.
If their family is killed, $1 million to NRB, [Nireva's ReBuild] which was created.
And, even we have killed your civilians, POWs were treated well.
If you do not send the money/POWs to us, we will re-attack you.

...
End of addon.

Ooc.
Yes, that colonel is.. Bit crazy.
Estholad
20-10-2004, 22:13
---------------Message to Nirevan HQ---------------------
Yes, we will release all POW:s we have immediately. We will even transport them to the border. We do not want war anymore. Actually we have had enough war for centuries i believe.

And to the condition of your POW:s, i'm sorry to say, but most of our POW camp's were destroyed in the Tomahawking's and bombing's of the last fays of the war. Therefore most of the POW's that we had are either missing or dead. But the one's we have left were treated with good Karelian hospitality as far as we know.

We hope that you will return our people back also.

---------------End of Message-------------------------


OOC: Altough you might find some mark's of torture on some of the POW's ive returned to you. However no systematic torturing was carried out, it has been just small number of guard's acting out of their aggression of dead brothers/families.
Warta Endor
21-10-2004, 10:44
Prussian HQ, Berlin

Günther:"Sir, Latvia accept but Psov don't. What shall we do?"
Hinkel:"Have 35 B2 loaded with Mustard gas (it is a secret) and escort them with 125 Mig29K. I send another telegram to insist that they have to return our POW's. Mobilize 2.5 million troops. I don't want any surprises this time. Have our troops on full alert. Prepare troops in Latvia for an attack. Get the Air Force ready to sramble at any time.

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Psovian HQ

We insist that we get our POW's first. I never said your POW's would be tortured. I remind you of our military strength that includes not only conventiel (SP?) weapon's.

Telegram From Prussian HQ to Latvian HQ-High security

We thank you for the return of our POW's. Your prisoners will be returned at 3PM (RL GMT time, I believe 5 PM Finnish time). They will be given a full year's salary. They will be brought to the border in Daugavspils. We also want to request a military acces treaty in case Psov attacks us.This must remain a secret.

ps. this is the map I forgot
Nireva
21-10-2004, 11:42
Latvia - HQ:

"Sir. Their POWs will arrive 1700."
"Roger."
"And.. They want a military access.."
"What? No.. No way. They'd might do something!"
"So, I answer to them that they're not allowed?"
"Yes."
"Should I warn Pskov.."
"Um.. Warn them.. But, that's our little secret, right?"
"Yes, sir!"
"Oh, and send Nirevan POWs to Nireva. Now. As we already have 50%."
"Roger!"

Pskov - HQ:

"Message from Prussia.. They want our POWs first."
"I am sure they do.."
"I think.. That they will attack.. Message from Latvia.. They're.. Warning us.."
"Warning?"
"Yes.."
"Shit.. Remobilize our whole army. Keep them away each other. So bombing will not kill everyone. Also, get as many women into bunkers and all.. Prussia might do the same to us that they did to Poland.. And.. Ask for Nirevan help.."
"Nireva's help? But.. They're allies with Prussia.."
"I think, that Nireva told Prussia do not make bombardments.. If.. If they do, we might get Nireva as an ally.. But do not mention, that we're getting attack or anything.. They'd probably say that to Prussia. Just ask about will they make an alliance with us, if Prussia bombards us.."
"Roger.."
"And send the POWs to Nireva. More chances to get them in alliance, and that's enough for me to have 50% now, 50% later.."
"Roger!"

Nireva - HQ:

"Sir! Pskov wants.. Our help, if they get bombarded by Prussia."
"Um. Sure. If they bombard. And if Latvia let us use their soil to get trought."
"I'm pretty sure that they will.. As we'd be allies of Pskov then."
"Yep."
Warta Endor
21-10-2004, 20:56
Telegram from Prussian HQ to Psovian HQ

We will not start any conflict because of POW's. Prussia will not attack or bombard if it isn't attacked. The mobilization is just a security thing. If you still want to have your POW's first we will send them to you tommorow 12 am. We want all our POW's back and if just one of them is tortured we will take actions.

Signed Gen. Hinkel

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Latvian HQ-High Security

We understand that you have problems with our demand of having military acces. We ensure you None of the prussian forces will behave badly if it is necesary (SP?) to enter your territory. The prussian soldiers have a great discipline and will be serverly punsihed if the behave badly. We also change our demands involving occupied territory. We only want the red marked area and a military base in Riga.

Signed, Gen Hinkel

Telegram from Prussian HQ to Nirevan HQ

We ask your support if any conflict will be started with Pskov. We understand that you have an agreement with Pskov that if they will be bombarded, you will use force against us. If it was up to us, no conflict would be started about POW's. But we still want our POW's back unharmed. If that will be the case, will will start diplomatic actions first and if necesary(SP?) we will use force , only if it is the last option that remains.

Signed, Gen Hinkel
Nireva
22-10-2004, 11:42
Pskov - HQ:

"POWs arriving in 12AM."
"Good. Get them, once we got them, send our POWs."
"Roger! Also, message from Prussia."
"I'll answer to it.."
"Roger!"

To: Prussia.
From: Pskov.
Subject: POWs.

Message: We will release our POWs as soon as we get yours.
We are sorry, but we are pretty sure, that some random soldiers of ours have tortured them.
But that is random, and we're sorry about it.
No orders from us have been sent to torture any POWs.
Otherwise, they've been treated well, enough food, good healthcare.

...
End of message.

Latvia - HQ:

To: Prussia.
From: Latvia.
Subject: Access.

Message: If that's only what you want, if we give temporary military access..
We must agree.
But for that military base in Riga, we'd demand that it would be 50km from city.

...
End of message.

Nireva - HQ:

"Message from Prussia! Somehow they know about the agreement.."
"Shit.."

To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: POW transfer.

Message: If you cannot make POW transferring well, we offer you to keep both POWs.
And send them at the same time to both sides.
If either of you starts a military conflict anywhere, we will attack to that.
Unless he has real good reason for that. And I'm sure no one has.

...
End of message.
Warta Endor
22-10-2004, 14:09
Prussian HQ, Berlin

Günther:"Sir, we got answers from Latvia, Pskov and Nireva. Pskov will return our POW's but some of them were tortured. They say only incidently (SP?). Latvia agrees to a temporary military acces, but I think it won't be necesary now. Nireva stay to their diplomatic positions, willing to negotiate between us, which isn't necesary now."
Hinkel:"That's all good news. I will send a telegram to Pskov insisting that the few soldiers who tortured will be punished. I also want to invite the heads of state of Latvia, Pskov, Nireva and if possible Karelia for a conference to bring good relations between all involving parties."
Günther:"Yes sir."
Hinkel:"And I also want to change our strategy based on bombardments. I would like to investigate precision bombs. I know it would take a heavy toll on defence budget. I will ask Nireva if we could buy 750 tomahawk cruise missiles for tests and further devolopment."

Telegram to Latvia, Pskov, Nireva and Karelia

Prussia invites you all to a conference which will be held in a week. We would like if you could all come and create a sort of comradeship after a long struggle. We could discuss al sort of things.

Addon for Pskov

We insist that the soldiers who tortured will be prosecuted.We thank you for the return of our POW's. We would like to open diplomatic relationships with you.

Addon for Nireva

We would like to purchase 750 Tomahawk cruise missiles for testing and further devolopment of precision bombing tactics.

Signed, Gen. Hinkel
Nireva
23-10-2004, 08:50
The messages..

To: Prussia.
From: Pskov.
Subject: Conference

Message: President will come.
We have investigations [SP?] about it,
But it's pretty sure, that we cannot find the guilty.

...
End of message.

To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Conference.

Message: I will come, as a leading officer. Even I'm just colonel.
President must stay here, talk to the people..
We will not sell our Tomahawks forward, but I'd suggest to ask from Vercettia.

...
End of message.

To: Prussia.
From: Latvia.
Subject: Conference.

Message: Our vice president is missing, so, I will come, as general.
Warta Endor
23-10-2004, 09:38
Hinkel's mansion, Berlin

Günther:"The chiefs of staff of Latvia and Nireva. The president of Pskov is also coming. Karelia hasn't answered yet. Pskov also said that they probaly can't find the soldiers who tortured."
Hinkel:"A well, we should visit the Oktoberfest (drinking a lot of beer if you want or just have fun :D). I think the visitors will apreciate it."
Günther:"Good idea, sir."
Hinkel:"And demobilize 1 million man."
Günther:"Yes sir."
Estholad
23-10-2004, 11:23
---------------Message to Prussia-----------------

We will send someone in there too. Not sure who. Propably me as the leading general of this point.


-----------------End of MSG------------------------
Nireva
23-10-2004, 13:20
Ooc. Yeah. I've heard about it in school..

Ic.

Nireva - HQ:

"Demobilize our whole army. Find people to rebuild destroyed cites.."
"Yes, sir! But.. Which budged we should use.."
"Use military for now.."
"Roger!"
"And. I'm leaving now. To conference."
"Roger.. Who's taking care?"
"President, I assume."
"Roger.."

Nireva - President:

"Mr. president, colonel's now leaving to the Conference."
"Okay, but, who's in charge there?"
"He said.. You."
Shit.. Now I have to run that damn HQ too..
"Okay.."
"Is that a problem, sir?"
"No.. It's not."
Is he an idiot? Of course it's problem..
Warta Endor
24-10-2004, 13:41
Prussian HQ, Berlin

Günther:"We have an answer from Karelia. They will send someone. Nirevan's representative, the colonel is on his way now."
Hinkel:"Good, I will go to the airport to meet him. We will have dinner in my mansion tonight. He will sleep in one of the old palaces in Potsdam."
Günther:"Yes sir."
Nireva
25-10-2004, 16:22
Ooc.. Comes.. Late?

Ic.

Nireva - Learjet 142:

"This is Learjet 142, asking for permission to land."
"Roger that, Learjet 142, take the 4th."
"Roger that.

Sir! We're arriving!"
"Good. You'll wait here"
"Roger."

Learjet came down. Nicely.

Colonel Repo came, and talked to Hinkel.
They chatted, went to dinner and then Repo went to sleep.

Pskov & Latvia:

"Okay, general Ruzis. I'll be right away there.."
"[I]Thank you, president Timofeev.."

So, Pskovian president Timofeev took a plane to fly first to Latvia, then with Latvian general Ruzis to Prussia.
ETA of arrive is 3 hours.
Warta Endor
26-10-2004, 18:50
Prussian HQ,Berlin, Hinkel just returned from his diner with Colonel Repo for a mid-night briefing

Günther:"Ah, how was your dinner with the colonel?"
Hinkel:"Good, anything interesting?"
Günther:"Yes, w found some disturbing information indicating that the Pskovian and Latvian heads of state could be murdered by extreme nationalists in Prussia."
Hinkel:"We can't let that happen! Raise security to maximum! And send a warning to Latvia and Pskov!"
Günther:"Yes sir."
Nireva
27-10-2004, 09:02
Latvian general & Pskovian president:

"Um.. General.. Prussia is warning us, extremenationalist may try to murder us.."
"I'm sure they may.. Call for more guards.."
"From..?"
"Both."
"Okay."
"Sir! People is trying to come!"
"Shit! Don't let them come! Shoot, if you must!"
"Roger that.."

---
"Sir, we cannot hold them.. Without shooting.."
"Shit.. We must shoot.. Damn it.. Shoot to air first.."
Bang. Bang.
"They scared. Fell back, for a while.. That was not planned.. They might make it, if they plan."
"Yeah, thats why I called 50 guards here."
Warta Endor
28-10-2004, 16:04
Ehm, is this happening in Latvia or in Prussia???
Nireva
29-10-2004, 12:46
Ehm, is this happening in Latvia or in Prussia???

Um.. Nothing in Latvia? They're demobilezing. [SP?]

That happened in Prussia, and 50 extra guards were sent to guard Latvian and Pskovian heads.
Warta Endor
29-10-2004, 17:40
Berlin, somewhere in the streets a massive demonstration of 45000 people is going on against Latvia and Pskov. The demonstration was guarded by 10000 regular Anti Riot Squads (PARS) and 2500 military police.

"Kill the bastards! They violated our territory and killed our sons and fathers! Go to the residence of the Mother F******, drag them out and kill them!"

The demonstration begins to force its way to the residence of Latvian and Pskovian ambassadors (were the heads of state whished to stay).

In HQ

Günther:"Sir, a massive demonstration is going on in the streets! some people have entered the embassies but they were driven of by guards."
Hinkel:"Damn! Send in 25000 regular troops and if anything is going out of control, use force!"
Gunther:"Yes sir."
Nireva
30-10-2004, 14:56
Nireva - Preident. In Prussian Palace:

"Sir.. We've getting reports that Latvian & Pskovian heads are being attacked.."
"Attacked? What the..?"
"Attacked. We do not know is it by civilians or by military."
"Oh shit.. Call 100 NSF'n soldiers here, and 500 to Latvian & Pskovian palace. And if it's the military attacking there, call for Mi-8's to pick us up."
"Roger that, sir!"

Nireva - Nearest Air Force Base:

"Lets do some dirty work boys, Learjet will land to their airport, then we should get helicopters from there.."
"Sir? To Latvian and Pskovian palace.. But.. They're enemies.."
"Not anymore. And some people will leave to our colonel. You will not have your basic armament.."
"Great.. Riot weapons.."
"Yes. But, they can kill. Don't shoot to heads."
"Sure. Will we be the first line?"
"No. Second to last."
"Okay.."
"Now, let's go."

Latvian Ambassador:

"General.. Backup arrived."
"Good.. Hope that Prussia has enough menpower to push the riots.."
"Yeah.. And some Nirevan NSF's incoming within hours."
"Good."

Ooc. NSF is Nirevan Special Forces.
Warta Endor
30-10-2004, 22:15
On the Berlin Streets

"Ok people, spread out and we wont use any force. I Repe...." (The Police officer was hit by a stone)
The security forces fired teargas and beat up some protesters. Soon the crowd was gone, leaving only the wounded who were brought to Hospital.

Günther:"The demonstration has been "taken care of". There's no security risk now."
Hinkel:"Good. Invite the Latvian and Pskovian Heads of state to stay at my mansion which is easier to secure."
Günther:"Yes sir."
Nireva
31-10-2004, 08:44
Nireva - Learjet:

"Mission is called back."
"Why, sir?"
"Latvian & Pskovian heads are secured."
"So we get to home?"
"No. We'll transfer to colonel's palace. Even we don't think that Prussian civilians would attack to there."
"Yeah.. Okay."

Latvian & Pskovian heads:

Prussian soldier came to ambassador, asked to president & general to come.

"Where are you transferring us?"
"To Günther's mansion."
"Why?"
"It is easier to defend."
"We'll.. Okay, we'll come."
Warta Endor
31-10-2004, 09:32
The Heads of State enter the mansion. In the hall Hinkel, Günther and the Master Servant of the House (its a title, this person is responseble for everything that happens in the Mansion) greet them.

Hinkel:"Ahh, welcome dear friends! That was quite shocking what happened today! I kindly invite you to join me to dinner. Kolonel Repo of Nireva could be here any minute.(forgot to invite him :D ) This here is my trusted general Günther and this is my MSH (Master Servant of the House)."
Günther:"Welcome sirs."
MSH:"Welcome to the most beautiful mansion in all Prussia!"
Nireva
31-10-2004, 18:14
Nireva - Colonel Repo:

"Sir, we should go to the Mansion."
"Lets go then."
"They're already waiting.."
"Great. Clear us a way there."
"Roger!"

Couple of minutes later Repo was outside the mansion.

"You guys, stay near me. I don't trust this people a bit.."
"Yes, sir.."
"Lets go.."
"Teams, Eagle is entering the mansion, Cover 1 & 2 is with him, others stays outside the mansion. Hold your fire, if anything happens."
"And don't drink too much."

And so Repo entered inside the mansion, with his 2 agents, 40 agents were nearby, and could be inside mansion's garden within 60 seconds [if no one would resistance], and 100 of soldiers could be inside garden within 3 minutes.
Warta Endor
31-10-2004, 19:17
Just a small thing. Hinkel does not intend to blow the mansion up or something so all the suspision isn't really necesary. Our security is very good and our security forces are very good (Prussia is a Dictatorship).

Hinkel:"Colonel Repo, welcome in my mansion! We were expecting you. Now the feast can begin!"

The dinner starts and soon everybody is enjoying the food and drinks. A luitenant enters and walks to Hinkel and Günther.

lt.:"Sir, There's a uprising in Poland. You should come with me."
Hinkel:"Ok, come with me Günther. Ahem, Gentlemen, you have to excuse me, a pressing bussines must take me away from this dinner."

They walk to a map room in the Mansion.

lt.:"It began with some demonstrations in Krakau, soon the entire city was rebelling. The Prussian command has been driven out. 32 Prussian soldiers have been killed, 123 wounded. Civillian casualties are unknown."
Hinkel:"Good. Bring 325000 troops to Krakau and make sure the rebellion doesn't spread."
lt.:"Yes sir."
Nireva
31-10-2004, 20:55
Ooc. I'm sure he doesen't, but Repo is suspicious.
"Good" for taking losses. :rolleyes:

Ic.

Mansion:

General Ruzis: "It's pleasure to be here, even we were attacked by yours civilians. But I can understand that."
President Timofeev: "Yes, that was unpleasand happening.. Otherway you have a great city at here. And good food, indeed. Congratulate your chef."
Colonel Repo: "Yes, indeed. Great city. Big, old.. Great."

Bit later Hinkel & Günther were excused.

Ruzis: "Timofeev, you believe that they're trying something..?"
Timofeev: "I, have no idea. Strange.."
Repo: "I'm sure they will not. I have my bodyguards here. And I'm their ally."
Timofeev: "Yes, you are. But we are not."
Repo: "But I am here."
Ruzis: "Ssh. If he tries, we cannot stop it anymore. We'll just see."
Repo: "That's right."
Timofeev: "Repo, have you had any discussion about this with Hinkel or Günther?"
Repo: "No.. I have not."

Then Repo's mobile rang.

"Say it, major."
"Something is happening in Poland.."
"What?"
"We.. Don't know yet."
"Report to me when you know. And handle it without me."
"Yes, sir.. Bu-.."
"Do anything that is necessary. But just if it is danger to us."
"Roger.."

Timofeev: "Well..?"
Repo: "Something's happening in Poland.."
Ruzis: "What's happening there?"
Repo: "We do not know currently.."
Warta Endor
01-11-2004, 17:17
Karakau, Poland, a soldier with a white flag was walking towards a rebel position. He was the third one to do so, the other two were shot.

"I come as a negotiator, please let me speak wi..(crack!!!!)"

In a trench, 200 meters away, general Wolfgang Heidel turns around and looks angry.

"Damn rebels, inform Hinkel and tell him we should use force to clear this place clean. They ask for a repeat of Poznan!"

Berlin, Hinkels Mansion

Günther:"We have a message from Heidel in Poland. Three negotiaters have been shot. He ask for his permission to use force. And security has picked up a call to Repo, about the situation in Poland."
Hinkel:"Permission granted. I will tell everyone what's wrong."

They walk back to the party.

Hinkel:"People, I'm sorry I had to leave. There is some rebel uprising (he looks to Repo for a reaction) in Poland. The situation is been taken care of. We tried to negotiate but our negotiators were shot."

He sits down and begins to eat but he's still worried.

Meanwhile in Poland.

"Fire!!!" BOOM!!! BOOOM!!!! BOOOM!!!! SWOOSH BANG!!! An artillery bombarment starts and troops begin to leave their trenches and storm towards rebel positions.
Nireva
01-11-2004, 19:13
Ooc. They may pick up the call, but real hard to say to who , but the discussion would be real hard. I don't mind.

Ic.

Mansion:

[I]Knew it.. Repo thought, when Hinkel said that rebels were taken care of..
They're just.. Killing people.. Mad mans.. Shit... Repo didn't show much reaction, but others noticed that he was thinking.

Timofeev: "Well. Good if you handled it.. Hope you didn't take too much casualties."
Ruzis: "Actually.. How did you take them out? Chemicals? Bombardment? Or just pure power of men?"

Now that's the question I wanted.. Repo thought.

Nireva - HQ:

"We're spotting heavy bombardment to Karakau.. Guess that's the end of rebels.."
"Hm.. We told them to not use the damn bombardments! Warn them now! For the last damn time!"
"Sir.. We cannot start a war!"
"Colonel said it, that it would be last time in last time.. So, this must be the last.."
"Well. You need his and president's permission.."
"I will get them. If I need it."
Warta Endor
02-11-2004, 18:37
Ooc. They may pick up the call, but real hard to say to who , but the discussion would be real hard. I don't mind.

Ic.

Mansion:

[I]Knew it.. Repo thought, when Hinkel said that rebels were taken care of..
They're just.. Killing people.. Mad mans.. Shit... Repo didn't show much reaction, but others noticed that he was thinking.

Timofeev: "Well. Good if you handled it.. Hope you didn't take too much casualties."
Ruzis: "Actually.. How did you take them out? Chemicals? Bombardment? Or just pure power of men?"

Now that's the question I wanted.. Repo thought.

Nireva - HQ:

"We're spotting heavy bombardment to Karakau.. Guess that's the end of rebels.."
"Hm.. We told them to not use the damn bombardments! Warn them now! For the last damn time!"
"Sir.. We cannot start a war!"
"Colonel said it, that it would be last time in last time.. So, this must be the last.."
"Well. You need his and president's permission.."
"I will get them. If I need it."

Official reaction from Gen. Hinkel

We have four things to say:
1-It is a domestic issue, you have nothing to do with it.
2-they are rebels, we tried to negotiate but all negotiators were shot.
3-it is artillery fire, not massive carpet bombardments by B52.
4-We remind you of the countless Karelian civillian casualties after negotiations failed. And your negotiators haven't been shot.

They also killed all Prussian civillians that didn't flee. I am sorry to tell you but all rebel soldiers will be killed,NO civillians will be harmed.
Warta Endor
02-11-2004, 19:21
Prussian tanks storm through Krakau, listening to Rammstein on the intercom.

warten auf das Licht
fürchtet euch fürchtet euch nicht
die Sonne scheint mir aus den Augen
sie wird heut Nacht nicht untergehen
und die Welt zählt laut bis zehn

"Damn those rebels!"
BOOOOM!!!!
"Shit, ambush!"
"There, fire!"
Swoosh! BANG!!!

"Those suckers are gone!"
Nireva
02-11-2004, 22:37
Nireva - HQ:

"Get me a interpreter! They're talking that damn Dutch!"
"I'll get you one.."
"Fast!"
"Sir! Message coming from Prussia!"
"I'll get it.."

To: Prussia.
From: Nireva.
Subject: Bombardments.

Message:
1. Correct, but we don't take nations that kill civilians/use chemical/nuclear weapons of mass destructions to our allies.
2. Pure power.. Tanks.. Even helicopters.
3. Artillery fire makes damage to any building.
And not like like tank, there comes many. And weaker accuracy.
4. Yes, we did make big bombardments to Karelia,
But it was our mainland, what was under attack.

And, for 4th, Poland isn't your mainland. It's invaded part.
Like part of Estonia isn't our mainland. Invaded part. Or Norway.
Warta Endor
04-11-2004, 20:19
Günther:"Krakau is now under our control! We have some losses and an unknown number of civillian casualties."
Hinkel:"Thats good. Send aid immediantly (sp). I will tell Repo"

Message to Repo

Well, Poland IS our territory. It is officially annexed into Prussia. And one thing I don't understand. You only bombard your own territory if it is invaded? A bit strange. It isn't criticism. If you want to send aid workers you are welcome.
Nireva
05-11-2004, 15:03
Repo: "Hinkel. I know Poland is under your power."
Ruzis: "What is he talking about?"
Timofeev: "I have no damn idea.."
Ruzis: "Maybe the message."
Repo: "But, if it is under your power, the people in there.. Is your own civilians! Who kills own civilians with a damn bombardment?! We did not. We killed Karelian. Not our own. Even it was bad too. And the whole city can not be full of rebels."
Timofeev: "They bombarded a city? In Poland?"
Ruzis: "I g-"
Repo: "Yes. And asks for me to send workers to rebuild it. Even if I could, I'm not sure that I would send. But now they're busy in our eastern parts.."
Warta Endor
05-11-2004, 18:47
Günther:"We have a number of civillian casualties :9375 Dead-2134 wounded Krakaus center is pretty damaged, the rest of the city is almost untouched. Especially the rebel HQ is damaged. Engenering started rebuilding the damaged buildings. What should we do with the captured rebels?"
Hinkel:"We won't shoot them, I want good relations with Nireva. Put them in labour camps. I will invite Repo for a tour through Krakau and the rest of Poland.
Nireva
06-11-2004, 18:46
Ooc. I guess party is over. :S

Ic.

Prussia - Old Palace [Repo]:

"Message.."
"Say."
"They want you to take tour in Poland.."
"A tour?! To see what they've done to Poland cities?! I liked that country. A lot."
"Also, reports from there. Krakau's center is heavily damaged. But, at least, they did not shoot the rebels. At least we didn't notice."
"That's good.. We'll.. Guess I have to go there.."
"I'll answer positive?"
"Yes."
Warta Endor
07-11-2004, 00:12
Well, actually it is a tour for all the invited leaders to show we're not only good on fighting a war but also good at rebuilding a country and govern it. A new type of government is being set up for (at least a part of) Poland and Lithuania/ conquered Latvian territory. More coming tomorrow.
Warta Endor
07-11-2004, 17:32
Treaty of Warschau

1. The red marked territory(see map) will become a protectorate of Prussia. The rest will be annexed into Prussia. Its foreign policy and defense matters will be controlled by Prussia. Domestic issues will be their own dicision (sp?).

2. Lithuania will cease to exist. It will completly be absorbed into Prussia.

3. Conquered ex Latvian territory wil remain Prussian for twenty years. 20 years After the signing of this treaty, a referendum (sp?) will be held with the question: would you want to stay with Prussia or rejoin Latvia.
Nireva
07-11-2004, 19:41
Ooc. Hard to answer anything to that..
As Latvia already agreed.

Well. All leaders will join to tour.
Warta Endor
12-11-2004, 21:48
Ok, I think we first go to Stettin, Danzig, Warschau, Poznan and then to Krakau. The rebuilding in Poland is almost complete.
Nireva
13-11-2004, 08:53
Ok, I think we first go to Stettin, Danzig, Warschau, Poznan and then to Krakau. The rebuilding in Poland is almost complete.

Ooc.
You may RP the tour.. :)

Either Poland was taken very few damages, or then you have very fast workers. :D
Warta Endor
13-11-2004, 09:50
Ahh, Prussian workers are very fast. Homes which have been destroyed have been temporary replaced by portacabins. The rebuilding of normal houses may take a few months.