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The UFGZ, ECF, AoN, CoW, and various other nations have rallied together to fight against the ESUS powers that now stand against them.

We shall fight against the warmongering, bloodthirsty, nations of the ESUS. They glass entire worlds, slaughtering millions of civilians, sacrafice millions of their own for advancement...

The ESUS is a threat to the entire Universe. They must be stopped.

There is word of a possible alliance between the ESUS and the Shivan Imperium... If this is true, do you believe that they ally for technology? Aid? I think not. They ally to rule.

Nations of the Universe, join with us in standing against those who have become intoxicated with their power.

Thank you,

The UFGZ



ooc: All Allies in the War against the ESUS, please post in this thread, I want a full list...

We will help...also who leads the ESUS?

OOC: I say that we destroy your Reagan, get around your trap, and while you're busy fighting our ships, I'll take over your planets and citizens with my Planetary Takedown Nanite Package. It'll make all of the people on a planet my loyal slaves! Whoopie!

The Mindset and Indra Prime... I do not believe however that the TRCIP will enter into the fray...

I would like it to be known I do this in defense of Germanische Zustande, I do not oppose ESUS. In fact, I don't even know of its existance, yet.

Thank you, IE. Your people would war against them too...

Dracun, send a fleet to Normandeicht...

is there a thread?

We will help...also who leads the ESUS?
OOC: Mindset, basically.

Yeah, the Formal Declaration of War on Mekanta thread

There is word of a possible alliance between the ESUS and the Shivan Imperium... If this is true, do you believe that they ally for technology? Aid? I think not. They ally to rule.

Okay, that's just ridiculous. While I don't doubt that there isn't a single ESUS nation who wouldn't make an Alliance like then when the opportunity arose, they wouldn't do it with the Shivans. Frankly, there's not an ESUS nation who doesn't think that the Shivans are Godmoddy n00bs who deserve to be banned from the internet.

I have very good sources...

Not good enough.

We the Federation of SPYDUDES have chose to ally with the ESUS and rule together.

I have very good sources...

Who, the Shivans?

Oh, yeah, and Klonor(well, not anymore, but he still has forum access) and I are MEMBERS of the ESUS and have access to the FORUMS.

I have very good sources...

-OOC-
Yes, we all trust information pulled from ass space...

No... Not shivans... These sources are actually credible..

Tag, I am going to watch this thing and see who wins.

No... Not shivans... These sources are actually credible..

OOC: Ahhhh, but they're wrong, so it doesn't matter. Shivans are stupid little pukes with no RPing ability.

Tag, I am going to watch this thing and see who wins.

Oh come on... isn't it obvious whos going to? No offense GZ, but the ESUS is considerably more of a hassle than you want to be, or can deal with.

No... Not shivans... These sources are actually credible..


GZ Info Director: Well Mr. Sphynctur, what's up today?

Anus S.: Well ESUS and the Shivans are making an alliance! And Jangle Jangle Ridge stole three dirty diapers to hump late at night!

GZ Info Director: Wow! It came from my ass, so it must be real!


Truth? Or Mekanta's twisted sense of humor?

Ruthless Slaughter wishes to know more of this. A link or TG me a background story perhaps. I want to hear the whole thing before taking sides.

They were Huggies, I swear!

Ha ha ha. Very funny.

RS, it's a loooooong story, but, as usual, I got all righteous and decided to clean the filth up from the floor...

Okay, I'll be quick:

The ESUS and the Shivans are not making an Alliance. They never will. The Shivans can't RP and the ESUS, who I often say the same of, can at least see that much.

The ESUS will not lose this war. Deal with it. They have nations who could win this by themselves.

Those who are making war on the ESUS Will Lose Horribly. You Will Not Win. Get over whatever pathetic event caused this and move on, for your own safety.

Oh, and if this war does go ahead feel free to arm yourselves at the various branches of the Klonor Ship Store. Ships, technology, and services can all be found at the various threads.

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There was going to be an alliance between ME and the ESUS. Not the entire Shivan Imperium. Me. But no one got around to posting anything, and the war kinda starved to death in the vast regions of Apathy. In fact, I wonder if there is a Shivan Imperium anymore? I'm working on converting to modern tech, so the Shivans really don't have a fleet anymore anyway.

Thats that cleared up. JJR, you would be attacked by ninjas for that quip about RPing skills. But now that I'm not a Shivan, fire away, by all means.


Space tech has gone to the dogs, been digested, and been returned to the earth as a rich fertilizer. But cheers anyway.

Klonor, the Righteous shall not fail. We will overcome.

There was going to be an alliance between ME and the ESUS. Not the entire Shivan Imperium. Me. But no one got around to posting anything, and the war kinda starved to death in the vast regions of Apathy. In fact, I wonder if there is a Shivan Imperium anymore? I'm working on converting to modern tech, so the Shivans really don't have a fleet anymore anyway.

Thats that cleared up. JJR, you would be attacked by ninjas for that quip about RPing skills. But now that I'm not a Shivan, fire away, by all means.


Space tech has gone to the dogs, been digested, and been returned to the earth as a rich fertilizer. But cheers anyway.

I have the shirt ninjas, armed with Febreeze and Garfunkle-chucks, riding on Sunny-D powered Mecha Dinosaurs.

Klonor, the Righteous shall not fail. We will overcome.

We will overcooooooooooooooooooome, we will ov-er-come, some, daaaaaa-aa-yay-ay-aaaaaaaaaaay.

Klonor, the Righteous shall not fail. We will overcome.

No, you wont. Trust me, I know.

OOC: To the ESUS my nation is going on the idea that you are allying with the Shivans, GZ is our only tie. And if we find that he has lied we will pull out.

We shall destroy the scoundrils that oppose us.

Klonor, the Righteous shall not fail. We will overcome.

IC: Of course you shall overcome. Or rather you shall be overcome by the fleets of the ESUS.

Also, it should be noted that the ESUS as a whole has not glassed a single world since we've joined.

OOC: Err...I noticed you mentioned the CoW. Who the hell are they? Also, who are these 'other nations' you mention? They may be in need of a visit from a slave raiding party...

This Shivan alliance you speak of was going to be more of a surrender.

I also nominate that we make the other (war on Mekanta) thread the OOC thread for this conflict. We should keep IC stuff here from now on. Provided of course it hasn't gotten too cluttered already.

ooc: I agree

ic:

We will be victorious. The Federation and its allies will stand against the tidal wave of terror, and when it has passed, yea, when the waters have receded, there shall be the foundation of the Allies, standing strong even after the Victory.

OOC: Hall Passes or Bathroom Passes?

OOC: Now we all know I'll win, cause I'm a Galaxian Warrior

OOC: Hall Passes or Bathroom Passes?

JJR, This is the IC thread now. Please refrain from posting OOC posts here. Spam the other thread all you want.

Facehugger's final OOC post in this thread, hopefully.

OOC: Ok, last OOC post too. I just wanted to get back at him, because he's annoying me. If CF or someone could explain how his crystal banks are rewritable with the method he's using, it would make me quite happy. Frankly I'm a little out of my league, being a 14 year old in Honors Physical Science. I might have a knack for science, on the whole, but I still don't have the sheer knowledge to back it up.

ooc: My last one too. JJR, I know what you mean. But other then their evolutionist theories, usually Scientific American isn't wrong...

ooc: My last one too. JJR, I know what you mean. But other then their evolutionist theories, usually Scientific American isn't wrong...
OOC: Wait, you're a creationist? Sorry about the OOC post, just wondering...

ooc: I'm a baptist all the way!

We sincerely ask you to stop spreading lies to the uninformed about the nature of the Extra Solar Union of Systems. The majority of ESUS nations are peaceful nations with defensive agendas, however any aggressive opposition can and will be dealt with swiftly and accordingly.

-Penguenian Extragalactic Relations

Trust me, you don't want to take me on. A nation of 11 billion against just about any other nation... Goodbye you.
However, I'm not particularly interested in conquest, and would prefer peaceful expansion. I usually don't attack unless I'm defending.
Do you still want to attack me, for being a part of ESUS?

Wow, I'm lost. This seems more of a war of words than actual fighting. A ton of miscommunication as well. At this point, if either side will give sufficient, factual evidence, I'll probably side with them.

OOC: Since my name was mentioned i am forced to make a comment. The Shivans have nothing to do with the ESUS. At current there is a very unstable peace between the two brokered between Admiral Bosch and Feazanatia. I do not have any IC ties with the ESUS nor do I ever intend to. However if the AON and any other nation even attempt to use temporal weapons that risk the fabric of the multiverse expect sudden and quick retrebution, as i will come for anyone who uses a weapon that may compromise the integrity os subspace and the very existance of my race and nation.

Be warned GZ.

Sorry for cluttering up an already cluttered thread.

This thread really should be recreated, without the OOC commentary. Perhaps this should be the OOC thread for the upcoming war, and a new, OOC-less IC thread for it should be created.

There was never any intention of allying with the Shivans. There was, at one time, talk of an alliance with the AoN, but circumstance led it to fall through. Similarily, an alliance with the USF fell through a while back. Does our attempts at allying not prove that we are not imperial?

The ESUS, but definition, cannot be a "good" or an "evil" alliance, since these are not prerequisites when joining. However, individual member nations CAN and ARE "evil", though will be protected equally by the ESUS constitution.

We do not wish war. We only wish to see threats to our continued existence swiftly crushed, and that is what will happen here. You have our word.

My Stance is now Netural. If worst comes to worst will you allow my ships to leave? GZ is really trying to force me into this.

The ECF agree's with The Mindset, Until I see actualy evidence of an shivan-ESUS alliance. Which I do not. Prehaps this stems from GZ's hate of the Shivans. And I really cannot beleive that the Shivans would ally with the ESUS or vice versa. Snice when does an unstable peace count as a tight alliance?
Oh yeah, IT DOESN'T!
Until I see some solid rock hard evidence that the ESUS as a whole is allying with the shivans. I will NOT fire on any ESUS vessels.

My Stance is now Netural. If worst comes to worst will you allow my ships to leave? GZ is really trying to force me into this.

The ECF agree's with The Mindset, Until I see actualy evidence of an shivan-ESUS alliance. Which I do not. Prehaps this stems from GZ's hate of the Shivans. And I really cannot beleive that the Shivans would ally with the ESUS or vice versa. Snice when does an unstable peace count as a tight alliance?
Oh yeah, IT DOESN'T!
Until I see some solid rock hard evidence that the ESUS as a whole is allying with the shivans. I will NOT fire on any ESUS vessels.

Jangle Jangle Ridge is pleased to hear this, and will not interfere with any ECF forces unless they fire against us or block our way. In that case, we will wrap you in a statis shield, pump it with oxygen, and procede to zap the hell out of you. Otherwise, we will allow you to leave.

OOC: Ehhh, probably not. We'll likely swivel a few 5 gigaton nukes in your direction, along with some heavy cannons, etc. while under a camo net as GZ ship. Then, once your ships are injured, we'll take off the cloak and shoot you guys like fish in a barrel.

ooc: I recieved information to this effect from ESUS members.... whoops...

ic:

We declare war on the ESUS because of CF's attacks upon our ally, TFU, and for Mekanta's unprovoked assault upon the Monolith, which memorializes those who bravely defended Normandeicht from the Shivan Imperium.

We wished only to war with these nations, however, we know that the ESUS would become involved. However, if the ESUS would simply allow us to continue our wars of defense, we would gladly drop our war against the entirity of the ESUS.

ooc: I recieved information to this effect from ESUS members.... whoops...

ic:

We declare war on the ESUS because of CF's attacks upon our ally, TFU, and for Mekanta's unprovoked assault upon the Monolith, which memorializes those who bravely defended Normandeicht from the Shivan Imperium.

We wished only to war with these nations, however, we know that the ESUS would become involved. However, if the ESUS would simply allow us to continue our wars of defense, we would gladly drop our war against the entirity of the ESUS.

IC:

You are fools. We have not yet attacked TFU. We deployed troops to support Siesatia against obvious Federal imperialism. Our troops have yet to open fire. Your information is incorrect as is your attempt to make yourselves out to have the moral high ground.

Mekanta would not attack Germande Zustande. They had no contact with you. Instead, you choose to believe that Mekanta, for no reason at all, attacked your monument.

We have the tapes, the wreckage of the ships, the cracks in the repaired monolith, and the greiving families, to prove that Mekanta attacked us at Normandeicht! We do not know why they chose to attack us, we knew them not before this! They must have gotten the coordinates from their ESUS allies, the ones who aided us at Normandeicht before.

Any nation who secretly attacks, destroying our greatest monument, definately does not hold the "moral high ground." We are justified in our wars. And, do not lie about your involvement with TFU. Our fleet was there. We saw your ships fire on the TFU fleet.

This is preposterous. Mekanta did not attack your 'Great Monolith' and the ESUS has not yet opened fire on the ships of TFU. Perhaps the attack from Mekanta came from Neo-Mekanta, the founder of CAGE, who is similiar to Mekanta in many ways. I care not what you think, I continue to stand by Mekanta and the ESUS.

The ships, the weapons, even the transmissions were of Mekanta. There can be no doubt that it was the nation of Mekanta that attacked us so...

OOC: Do I have to fight? 'Cause I will, I hate both the ESUS and Shivians.

ooc: Down boy, Down! Post oocly in the other thread. Not right now, we may not go to war just yet...

Jangle Jangle Ridge is pleased to hear this, and will not interfere with any ECF forces unless they fire against us or block our way. In that case, we will wrap you in a statis shield, pump it with oxygen, and procede to zap the hell out of you. Otherwise, we will allow you to leave.

OOC: Ehhh, probably not. We'll likely swivel a few 5 gigaton nukes in your direction, along with some heavy cannons, etc. while under a camo net as GZ ship. Then, once your ships are injured, we'll take off the cloak and shoot you guys like fish in a barrel.
Our ships are returning all the weapons given to us by GZ, They have simply taken off all the weapons, It's GZ's problem to recover them.
The ships are leaving GZ space. All 400 of them. And we will then return to the EFC until futher notice.
Goodbye.

OOC: I have 12 Gigaton Phasers on some of my ships you sure you want to try that?
The ECF isn't even in the same universe as the rest of you w00tage!

We have the tapes, the wreckage of the ships, the cracks in the repaired monolith, and the greiving families, to prove that Mekanta attacked us at Normandeicht! We do not know why they chose to attack us, we knew them not before this! They must have gotten the coordinates from their ESUS allies, the ones who aided us at Normandeicht before.

Any nation who secretly attacks, destroying our greatest monument, definately does not hold the "moral high ground." We are justified in our wars. And, do not lie about your involvement with TFU. Our fleet was there. We saw your ships fire on the TFU fleet.

If they secretly attacked you, then how did you know it was them?

Also, your records of the Siesatian conflict are faulty. We did not fire upon TFU. Our admiral was certainly considering it, but at the time of the end of that battle, we hadn't fired yet. (OOC: Basically, I didn't get a chance to shoot before the thread was locked.)

Yes, but you would have fired...

Yes, but you would have fired...

I suggest dropping this line, GZ...

ECF: Bah! Ruin a well lain plan why don't you!

Oh well, there's still a decent chance it'll work.

Can I have a link to the other thread please?

Can I have a link to the other thread please?

OOC: Ok, look, Cam, no more OOC posts on the thread. Search for it, ok?

OoC: Since GZ seems so intent on not doing anything, I guess I'll start my part of the war.

Secret IC

Rear Admiral Johns Vicken, a man of courage, a man of honor, and right now, a man of boredom.

The Grand Exploratory Fleet, all thirty five vessals, was currently sitting out in the middle of inter-stellar space, a bit more than three light-years from the Normandeicht system. They, however, weren't alone in any sense of the word. Swarming around them were roughly one thousand worm-hole capable Firecat fighters, along with two hundred worm-hole capable Slug anti-capship bombers. The crowning vision of this assemblage, however, weren't even Imperial, let alone part of the GEF. These ships, on loan from Germanische Zustande, were using boosted-power shield projectors to cover the entire GEF, along with the WH fighter squadrons from inside Imperial Space.

The fleet present, while bored at the moment, would soon serve a grand purpose, the protection of the Germanische Zustande Federation and the destruction of the assaulting ESUS fleet. While the war hadn't entirely started yet, plans had already been lain to deal with ESUS' numerical and technological superiority. You see, even though the Imperial Republic isn't quite as technologically advanced as many other civilizations throughout the galaxy in terms of defensive power, the combined fleet now floating out amongst the myriad yellow dots and the omnipresent black blanket of space had enough power to decimate a planet without even particularly trying, let alone any type of ship.

The plan was simple, really. The firepower available to the HIRIE fleet could only be used effectively when they could concentrate on a manageble number of ships, and all the generals involved were quite sure that such a number wouldn't be available considering even the more conservative estimates as to the size of the ESUS fleet. Even after thinking about the several traps the ESUS would have to deal with before the HIRIE fleet would become involved, their defeat was a major possiblity should they have to face the whole might of the ESUS.

However, should the ESUS ships be seperated, the HIRIE fleet would have a relatively easy time of destroying the force, using AM/M reaction cannons to crush the shields than cutting the ESUS vessals to pieces with LASER bombards. The initial problem involved in attempting to divide the ESUS' numbers was pretty easily solved, and Germanische Zustande's forces were even now preparing their part in this little bit of the overall battle plan.

Now, they were all waiting on the signal that the ESUS fleet had arrived and taken the bait.

Johns looked at his wrist chronometer, sighed, then looked back up at the viewport...waiting...

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OoC: Remember, this is completely secret IC stuff, there is pretty much no way you'll know about the positioning of this fleet unless you're going to circle an entire three lightyear radius around the system, constantly sweeping with your sensors.

GZ: Next time you get on AIM we'll discuss how we're going to put together the posts for the rest of the set-up.

The ships in the Grand Exploration Fleet are as follows:

1 Mothership Class Supercarrier --

Hand of Justice

2 Goliath Class Battleships --

Crushing Force
Yardley

8 Hammer Class Battlecruisers --

Pillar of Truths
Reprisal
Freedom
Moonshine
Blue Skies
Dominator
Summer Breeze
Death's Hand

12 SDDG-52/R Robotic Guided Missile Destroyers --

52/R-424 and 425
52/R-753 and 752
52/R-823 and 822
52/R-134 and 135
52/R-465 and 464
52/R-984 and 985

12 Beehive Class Escort Carrier --

Captivation
Fascination
Brown Fox
Life of Peril
Swarm
Wasp
Warspite
Invincible
Essex
Middleground
Arrow
Beehive

Along with several specially made shield ships from GZ, and 1000 additional Firecat space superiority fighter craft and 200 anti-capital ship Slug fighter/bombers.

The Dark lord had ordered the Ragnos Fleet, and the Blizzard Fleet to be mobilized end sent off to the Normandeicht system. There the grand armada of 44 ships would battle the ESUS fleet. Every ship in the entire Dracun fleet was represented here. Prowlers, Enslavers, Wraiths, DSD, and Leviathans as well as Nebulon C frigates. Although they hoped to make a difference chances are they wouldn't. High Admiral Jacen thought about strategy when he recieved a holo transmission from the Dark Lord himself...no someone higher...the Darkest person in the galaxy only he and a few selected few new of Darth Tyrano the true leader of the Dracun Imperium.
"Sen..d it to my room"
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Secret ic:(Remeber you don't know any of this)
The admiral bowed on one knee and pressed the aceppt message button. The image of the Dread appeared.
"My lord, your wish is my command"
"That is good Admiral cause you shall go with our allies and battle valitantly with them until..."
"Until what dread lord?"
"Until you recieve another transmisson from me"
"What then my lord?" he asked curiously all though more often then not in the higher ranks curiosity killed the cat...literaly
"You will attempt to get close to an allied fleet...then when your close enough open fire""
Y..e.s My..lord" he said not believing what he had just been ordered to do...

OOC: the Blizzard Fleet and Ragnos fleet is made up of
Blizzard fleet
13 Leviathans
2 Enslavers
1 Wraith
10 DSD(Dracun Star Destroyers)
8 Nebulon C frigates

Ragnos Fleet
10 Leviathans
1 Enslaver
1 Wraith
5 DSD
3 Nebulon C frigates
There equiped with Dracun Interceptos there basic fighters with 2 laser cannosn and a protion torpedo launcher

OoC: Thanks for missing the planning meeting Dracun. You're free to sit somewhere far away from us, you'll be no where near the 'center' of our fleets since there will be no massive concentration of our forces until the very, very very end, and even then we'll be split into fours. Try to get all the information before you plan anything.

ooc: how about I didn't know the battle plan so I'll just fix it accordingly you could have put it nicley instead of make a comment like that

OoC: Sorry, I spent a while on creating the plan, expecting to have only three seperate fleets available, mine, GZ's, and ECF's (Now replaced by Cam III's). Hmm, you COULD do a certain part, as it's interchangable at that point.

Do you have AIM?

IE I want you to know that if your fleets enter ESUS space, the coordinates of our first contact will be spread among all of the member nations, regardless of retaliation against my homeworld.

Don't worry, I'm not taking part in any follow-up campaigns GZ may or may not have planned. I'm here for this battle and any other subsequent battles in GZ's space. I'm here as a defensive force, nothing else.

Tarenteor muttered to himself from the bridge of the Heritic as people bustled all around him, some manning sensor posts, others doing last minute diagnostic checkups.
"No damned whiskey in the whole damned plane..."
A squeaky voice piped up from behind his back,
"Uhhh, sir, Admiral Bosque told me to bring this to you... he said you'd be wanting it," said the young Ridgian, handing over a bottle of clear, blue-tinted moonshine as Taren turned around, snarling. Strangely it appeared to be bubbling, possibly carbonated.
"Errrr... give him my regards, or whatever he wants. If he wants money, tell him that Psi is my new accountant..." Taren pulled off the metal cork from the bottle with his teeth and slid it into his cheek, before pulling back the bottle and glugging it down all at once.
"Filthy, disgusting, tell him to get me some more!" Taren yelled as he began to chew on the metal cork, before swallowing it and handing the bottle back to the man. "And order me a box of those corks. Gotta be SOMETHING toxic in em, ey?" Taren jostled the man before spinning back around in his huge seat and starting to tap buttons across the panel, opening a com channel to all of the major players in the ESUS side of the war, such as CF, Mekanta, etc., thier faces appearing on various screens in from of him. "So, guys, what's the first move, ey?"

OOC: I like to call it Requiem to a Bottle of Extremely Deadly Metal Corks. Or maybe not.

OoC: Hey JJR, could you let me get in contact with GZ and finish the set-up before you guys jump in-system?

Admiral Anotnius's image appeared on the Jangle Jangle Ridge screen.
"I represent ST forces. We currently have 6 fighter swarms ready for combat. I also wonder... what is our first move?"

OOC:GZ do FTLi render nothingspace shields uneffective?

Admiral Anotnius's image appeared on the Jangle Jangle Ridge screen.
"I represent ST forces. We currently have 6 fighter swarms ready for combat. I also wonder... what is our first move?"

OOC:GZ do FTLi render nothingspace shields uneffective?
OOC: It should, but he's refused to announce any information about how they work. It doesn't matter though, I'll just wrap a pocket universe around him and collapse it. Or I can use a frequency tuner to find what plane he's on, and use a planar gravatic strike, which will wrap a heavy gravatic field around him and then crush him into a paperweight. Then, I'll FTL into the universe and take the metal use a gravatic catapult to fling in into his homeplanet and crush the planet. The third option is FTLing a globe of Terakite around him and crushing him into that, turning his ship into a black hole.

And IE, I'm planning, not attacking yet.

To: All parties involved
From: Tappee Foreign Affair
Subject: ESUS conflict
Message:

The Government of Tappee is taking a position of neutrality in the coming conflict. However, should any military forces that accidentally find themselves in Tappee territory will be politely asked to remove themselves as soon as possible. Should any of our forces be engaged they are authorized to defend themselves with deadly force. Be advised that it had always been military policy NOT to take prisoners. We have no desire to be pulled into a conflict that we had nothing to do with.

It is our deepest hope that conflict can be avoided, and all involved come to their senses.

Harold Armstrong
Tappee Foreign Minister

Secret IC:

--MSI Log start recording; Planning meeting; CF Tactical command--
M. Gibson (Gen), C. Bates (Adm), J. Halsey (Grnd Adm), Delta-6 (C5)

C. Bates: But sir! We have absolutely no intelligence upon enemy fortifications in the Normandeicht system! A frontal assault would be unwise. While we could take the system with such an attack, the cost in ships could become prohibitive.

M. Gibson: Can't we just send in probes to scout out the area?

J. Halsey: That's what we're planning to do. Then we need to insert an ops team to abduct a Zustande captain or navigation officer. Those little wankers have somehow hidden their entire territory.

C. Bates: But what do we do about the enemy fleet?

M. Gibson: We've got access to extremely large systemcracker bombs, ja? How about we just launch one into the system while maintaining a temporal feedback device, preventing any ships from fleeing the destruction via temporal means? Then bammo. The entire system gets wiped from the map.

Delta-6: My bioderms can be deployed via teleporter onto enemy ships to sow chaos amongst the opposition's forces. Then the good general here can deploy his bioroids to move in to tag and capture any prisoners of intrest.

J. Halsey: Are there enough of you to raid all the ships in the enemy fleet, Delta?

Delta-6: When we can be grown in a day? I find it laughable that you would even have to ask that. Give me a week and I'll have more than enough able bodies to cause chaos inside the enemy ranks.

C. Bates: But what happens to our men and ships when the bomb goes off?
J. Halsey: We lower the FTLi fields for a split second, enough to jump out, and watch as the entire GZ armada is blown to kingdom come. In the unlikely event that some survive, they'll be weakened so much that it shall be effortless to finish them off.

M. Gibson: Err...What's plan B?

J. Halsey: What plan B?

M. Gibson: Your alternate plan, should this one get disrupted.

J. Halsey: Eh...If we get really desperate we can set off a nova bomb. A bit less damage, but still enough to destroy most everything in the system.

C. Bates: Even the civilians? Is that right? I mean, should we really be extinguishing millions of non combatants like that?

J. Halsey: You have to break a few eggs...

M. Gibson: They declared war on us. The ends now justify the means. If they couldn't deal with millions of casualties on their side, that's their problem. Not ours.

C. Bates: This is a bad plan. It will turn us into an international Pariah. Not to mention the cost of a systemcracker...

Delta-6: Halsey, it seems as though we have a enemy sympathizer amongst us.

C. Bates: Go to hell, you *censored* subhuman *censored* clone! You aren't even a real *censored* person! You-

*Unknown sound*

M. Gibson: And you now have one less ear. Perhaps it will pay to pay to keep your loyalties straight, Ja comrade?

C. Bates: *Moan*

J. Halsey: You're luck the meds can get a new ear for you within the hour. Get out of my sight. You can expect to be snuggled into an obscure beauracratic cubby hole after this, Admiral Bates.

OOC: Oh, don't worry. The temporal inversion field can be defeated by -------

And the systemcracker bomb can be stopped via ------------

That's my basic strategy. In an RP week, I'll deploy a small fleet to attack you and gather the necessary prisoners, and then blammo. Normandeicht is completely obliterated. Unless of course you can think of a way to stop it between now and tommorow. :D

OOC: Let me do a slave raid first! I want to test some slow gravatic-field torture! We're hoping to be able to do it over a year and blow up a building with the violent decompression.

OOC: Let me do a slave raid first! I want to test some slow gravatic-field torture! We're hoping to be able to do it over a year and blow up a building with the violent decompression.
*Sigh*

What was that I said about OOC posts earlier?

Anyway, you can do a raid when my troops are invading enemy ships and tagging officers. Just make sure you retreat the moment the FTLi field goes down. Otherwise, you'll be destroyed when the systemcracker goes off.

OoC: -_-

What is with people and WMD's? It ruins good RPs really quickly.

OoC: -_-

What is with people and WMD's? It ruins good RPs really quickly.

No more quickly than Unbeeatable sensors!!!!!111 or Uber Tempral eradicators!!!!!!!!!oneoneoneoneone111one1

And there are tactical ways to counter my strategy. You just have to think of them.

I suggest dropping this line, GZ...

ECF: Bah! Ruin a well lain plan why don't you!

Oh well, there's still a decent chance it'll work.
The last thing I need are other nations in my nations universe!
Every last ECF ships has been ordered to return to the EFC. That means all diplomatic ties will be lost. I hope you people can resolve errr I mean GZ can realize that taking on the ESUS means death.
* out of the sensor range of all other ships in the middle of noware *
Willing: Are they ready, I'm eager to get back to my wife, and I think we all need a good rest,
Ops: Sir it's ready!
Willing: All decks prepare for jump!, do it!
* The Lights on the ship turned blue as a loud roar was heard, in a matter of seconds the ships were back in the ECF Universe *
Willing: Ahh set course for Terra 1/3 impluse power, I wonder how well GZ is going to do.

ooc> This thread is already way to cluttered. We need to make a new one and devise a way to keep it from getting flooded away by dozens of ppl posting everyday.

OOC: Keep this one as the OOC thread and start a new one.

OOC: Ack, ok, make a new thread, and continue from where we were, and link to a WHOLE new thread in the opening post and say: This is where you post OOC crap. Sound good?

No more quickly than Unbeeatable sensors!!!!!111 or Uber Tempral eradicators!!!!!!!!!oneoneoneoneone111one1

And there are tactical ways to counter my strategy. You just have to think of them.

Massive, system destroying WMDs ruin RPs. So do undetectable cloaked ships. Sensors like his CAN be beat, merely by not actually being in the dimension that they scan.

Massive, system destroying WMDs ruin RPs. So do undetectable cloaked ships. Sensors like his CAN be beat, merely by not actually being in the dimension that they scan.
Oh, yeah, and when you come out, you get killed by: teh uberz temporgadjlsdjfajldfpal bombj0rs! WeeewewerwekrjDFjaijfosdjfosjadokfjsdal;jf;!!/1211k1l1!!!!+1shiftshift!!11!1

Massive, system destroying WMDs ruin RPs. So do undetectable cloaked ships. Sensors like his CAN be beat, merely by not actually being in the dimension that they scan.

Not necessarily. It could give some fair tension in the situation. And I'll give your side plenty of chances to stop the attack.

Also note that my cloaked stealth ship wouldn't be undetectable. It would just be really tough to detect until it's deposited it's special ops cargo.

Stop complaining please. If GZ can have his shields, sensors, and other crap, then I can have my incredibly expensive uberbombs.

Fine. I'll FTL a KERU into the center of the major sun and freeze it. Feel better?

I think I might just enter this war and bop heads.

I think I might just enter this war and bop heads.

I thought you were modern tech?

I thought you were modern tech?

Nope, I haven't participated in anything in a long time, having the 22nd Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector in the world isn't too bad.

Oh, and FYI, KERU means Kinetic Energy Redistribution Unit. It drains the kinetic energy from shaking atoms, and transfers it through a small FTL device into an energy station. We drain unwanted planets and stars with them.

Nope, I haven't participated in anything in a long time, having the 22nd Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector in the world isn't too bad.

Well, if you want to join in, go right ahead. It should be fun to RP with/against a RPer of your caliber.

Well, if you want to join in, go right ahead. It should be fun to RP with/against a RPer of your caliber.

I'm ok at rping...

Hey, the more, the merrier, they say.

I think I might just enter this war and bop heads.

On which side?

OOC: Okay. I realize I've been a bit noobish. I apologize, I've been under a lot of RL pressure as school closes in and I used these forums to vent. I apologize and hope we can get on with the RP.

(But I'm still of the opinion that if You can have your ubershields, ubersensors, and uber temporal weapons then I can have my uberbomb.)

I found it funny how, in a supposedly "war" thread, we've taken seven pages and still no fighting.

Also, GZ, I'd give you about...one chance in three. You haven't seen half our technology, and only about 2/3 our military power.

OOC: Okay. I realize I've been a bit noobish. I apologize, I've been under a lot of RL pressure as school closes in and I used these forums to vent. I apologize and hope we can get on with the RP.

(But I'm still of the opinion that if You can have your ubershields, ubersensors, and uber temporal weapons then I can have my uberbomb.)
OOC: Yeah, CF, you were being noobish. And I was...n't... yeaaaaah... it's all YOUR fault. Bad CF! No, I'm joking. I'm just annoyed that you guys are calling ubertech 'being creative'.

the new IC thread: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=6952225#post6952225

Please update subscriptions accordingly.

OOC: Yeah, CF, you were being noobish. And I was...n't... yeaaaaah... it's all YOUR fault. Bad CF! No, I'm joking. I'm just annoyed that you guys are calling ubertech 'being creative'.

Tagging and tracking all objects over a certain size in a system isn't ubertech, it's good cataloging and organization skills.

His sensors though...beh, I'm STILL trying to understand what he's talking about. I need him to link me to the paper he read with all of the science in it.

Tagging and tracking all objects over a certain size in a system isn't ubertech, it's good cataloging and organization skills.

His sensors though...beh, I'm STILL trying to understand what he's talking about. I need him to link me to the paper he read with all of the science in it.
OOC: Actually, I was talking about his nothingspace shields, his crystal banks, his super quantum computers, and his temporal bomb.

Oh. Personally, I feel the nothingspace shields are bullshit, but then, I feel most of the technology used by you guys is bullshit, too. I'm definitely a perfectionist in that I need everything to be explained and everything to be possible >_>

The temporal bombs...well, Indra Prime himself said he could have them, I don't see how that's being uber-techish. Heck, they're nothing more than mines anyway.

And the crystal banks...the quantum computers...all that is stuff they're playing around with using in the future alreay today.

Oh. Personally, I feel the nothingspace shields are bullshit, but then, I feel most of the technology used by you guys is bullshit, too. I'm definitely a perfectionist in that I need everything to be explained and everything to be possible >_>

The temporal bombs...well, Indra Prime himself said he could have them, I don't see how that's being uber-techish. Heck, they're nothing more than mines anyway.

And the crystal banks...the quantum computers...all that is stuff they're playing around with using in the future alreay today.

Hey, we got on Feaz's back for having multiple ton MAC cannons.

Hey, we got on Feaz's back for having multiple ton MAC cannons.

O_o

You got on someone for big MAC cannons yet you willingly use weapons capable of wiping out whole star systems?

Yeah that makes him sound like a stupid hypocrite.

Well, a MAC like that would blow up after each shot. A huge fecking bomb is simply a huge fecking bomb. You launch it, it go boom! Technically, a bomb that could wipe out a solar system is more likely than FTL travel.

Yeah that makes him sound like a stupid hypocrite.
Thanks, we really needed that.

My MAC guns were a bit wanky. But a nova bomb isn't. They're big, expensive, and hard to use.

hahahahah Wanky is such a funny word!

Whatever, I'm withdrawing from this war, for two reasons.

A. It's turning into nothing more than a tech-wank, no tactics, no naval manuevers, nothing.

B. I've come across a rather interesting technology that might find its way into energy shielding systems for all my ships. It's pretty cool, really. It either absorbs, dissapates, or just outright deflects almost all kinds of energy weapon with little to no adverse effect on the shield itself. Not only that, but it provides RADAR cloak, meaning you won't find me on most more traditional sensor systems.

Basically, I'm pulling out because I'm not interested in a war where one side merely pulls out their WMD's and says "Ha, you lose" and also because I've decided to increase my technology by a large margin in the interest of my own safety.

OOC: Ok guys, At current i am in a war with Coreworlds. Now before we started the conflict we made the decision to lower the tech rating as inter- dimmensional weapons and other uber godmode and lets face it bordering on noobish weapons ruin rp's.

Now the problem with this conflict is that each side is aiming for victory and quite rightly so. However in the mists of the goal you are all forgetting the point of the game which is to HAVE FUN.

I have had dealings with both alliances in the past, mainly because i was bent on destroying the AON and the ESUS however times have changed. I believe that an outside moderator someone who is neutral and has a decent knowladge of each alliances tech should enforce this conflict, that is why i offer myself instead of all this OOC ranting and debates.

Before this conflict goes ahead i sugest we draw up some rules such as removing certain tech levels from the playing field such as inter dimmensional crap, a field of weapons that never took off till i started stomping about. If its possible to get this going i advise that a member of each alliance contacts me so we can get continue this as otherwise two large alliances are going to end up ignoring eachother for OOC reasons.

I await a response

TG either Imperial brits or Unified Sith

In my (not so) humble opinion, this thread has degraded much further below a simple competition over who has the largest, greatest, most advanced technology. It's hovering on the edge of a flamefest.

Now, we should get on with this "war" in the IC thread, or we should not get on with it at all. Blatant godmodding on either side will of course be ignored, but uberthings are not godmods unless they claim to have sixty bizillion of them. I know for a fact that no nation in the ESUS claims to have sixty bizillion uberships, uberbombs, ubershields etc. Uber, on NS, by definition means REALLY EXPENSIVE.

Anyway, if the tech didn't SEEM invulnerable (but must never be so), the RP would seem pointless and skewed. THere'd be no sense of tension, and creativity wouldn't be invoked in order to find ways around the tech. Uberbombs can be stopped. Ubershields can be neogotiated. Ubercomputers can be cracked, hacked, virus bombed or otherwise blown up.

If you still wish to continue this without all the tech-bullshitting and tech-whining, please, by all means continue in the other thread. Otherwise, leave.

EDIT: Oh, and Gronde, GZ, please contact me via TG with Instant Messenger details so we may work this out more without cluttering the threads.

Whatever, I'm withdrawing from this war, for two reasons.

A. It's turning into nothing more than a tech-wank, no tactics, no naval manuevers, nothing.

B. I've come across a rather interesting technology that might find its way into energy shielding systems for all my ships. It's pretty cool, really. It either absorbs, dissapates, or just outright deflects almost all kinds of energy weapon with little to no adverse effect on the shield itself. Not only that, but it provides RADAR cloak, meaning you won't find me on most more traditional sensor systems.

Basically, I'm pulling out because I'm not interested in a war where one side merely pulls out their WMD's and says "Ha, you lose" and also because I've decided to increase my technology by a large margin in the interest of my own safety.

But what you fail to realize is that I will give your side plenty of chances to stop my plan. It's not 'ha you lose' as you put it unless your side fails to use their heads.

First Phase: The bomb is really vulnerable during depolyment. You just have to shoot it and it will explode without much damage at all.

Second Phase: The bomb has to charge up. This takes approximately ten minutes. If the bomb is destroyed before charging, it won't do as much damage.

Third phase: After it's fully charged, there is a window where you can hit it with heavy EMP weaponry and it will be disabled completely.

Fourth Phase: Our FTLi fields drop, giving any forces in the area a small chance to flee.

I am not an unreasonable "I pull 90589 nukes out of my ass, j00 dead." Type of person.

I use WMDs to enhance an RP. Or are you saying that GZ and his temporal erasure weapons, nothingspace shields, and whatever else he's got stashed away is reasonable? Frankly, you've got no right to complain that the ESUS and me in particular are ruining the RP.

It's your right to leave, but GZ needs all the help he can get, and I don't think you're as...inflexible as him when it comes to his ubertechs.

Edit: The bombs also take a huge amount of time to build, and several rare resources that are difficult to synthesize. I only have six uberbombs, and I've been building them for seven RL weeks.

CF: I havn't been paying much attention to this ooc bull. Could you tell me exactly what this "uberbomb" does, how it works, how it is activated, and what damage it can do? So that I may decide for myself?

CF: I havn't been paying much attention to this ooc bull. Could you tell me exactly what this "uberbomb" does, how it works, how it is activated, and what damage it can do? So that I may decide for myself?
Solar system go boom, basically.

CF: While it may be surprising, the tech-wanking is the least of reasons I'm leaving. I really do want to leave so I can reoutfit my fleet with proper shielding (See my tech thread here (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352433) to see what it is) as it stands in numbers rather than lose a large portion of my offensive power and have to rebuild the ships over a battle that isn't truely mine.

Later I can come back and do a more serious number on any opposing forces in GZ's defense.

CF: The nothingspace shielding is what I called Temporal shielding before I knew that the system I was describing was temporal shielding. Got that?

My tech is not super, CF. It is just as your bomb. There are many ways to defeat it, you just would rather call it a godmod and not have to deal with it than to actually think about a way to defeat it. I've told you how it works, I've told IE how it works, and yet, no one gives a freakin' care!

Second, yes, I do have a right to complain to the ESUS. Where did you post that you've been working on it for the last seven weeks, eh?

I am not blatantly godmodding, last I checked Temporal Technology was not an indefeatable tech. I have been questioned on my technology time and again. I have been questioned on my military time and again. By those who fight against me. A few of these same nations were okay with the Reagan when we fought against the Shivans...

The point of this was war. CF, my technology allows for the same thing as your "uberbombs", so I wouldn't complain.

I'm starting a new thread. It will be kept to IC only. This and the other thread will become OOC. Is that clear?

OOC: LOL, look at them moan, i put up with GZ's ships and shields and i found them acceptable however the 2 things i do not find acceptable is temporal weapons they screw things up majorly. GZ whatever you do, do not wipe the ESUS fleet from the face of the timeline otherswise i will go about recording and compiling a result of what will happen if the ESUS fleet is removed from existance.

If you remove the ESUS fleet or start playing about with the timeline involving the ESUS then all knowladge of how to defeat subspace shields will be removed. The Shivans will be dominating at least half of the Galaxy, you and the AON will be mere shadows. It will just go on and on. If anything temporal happens to the ESUS expect and IC post from me reorganising history, as it will make me the most dominant player on NS.

If the ESUS ships are removed from the timeline i would have won the Normandeicht (or however you spell it) battle. Corpsac will be a mere foot note in history. Mechlon would have been victory allowing me to call upon an extra 2000 warships. My subspace shields will still be invunerable as the ESUS would then lack the resources to devise and hand out a counter to most races. So go ahead wipe them from the timeline as like it or not as soon as the ESUS weakens the Shivans will be back.

No I would erase the fleet from the present and future. All their accomplishments would still remain

No I would erase the fleet from the present and future. All their accomplishments would still remain

Hey, he's told everyone in the ESUS about his bombs. He had six of them, and continues to.

OOC: I honestly believe that all this "ubertech" is really getting out of hand. I've been a space faring race since I joined ESUS and i've watched the proverbial 'technological cock" get bigger and bigger - not only from other space alliances, but ESUS as well. Now I'm not pointing the finger (clawed in the case of my race) at anyone in particular. But all this has gone far enough.

There are many good space nation/races players here. We are wrongly accused by many modern tech nations who feel we are all automatically godmodders, numberwankers and n00bs. This is to bad, but I sometimes feel that they are justified in their views.

As a result of all of this, from now on, my race is officialy ignoring all "ubertechs".

OOC: I honestly believe that all this "ubertech" is really getting out of hand. I've been a space faring race since I joined ESUS and i've watched the proverbial 'technological cock" get bigger and bigger - not only from other space alliances, but ESUS as well. Now I'm not pointing the finger (clawed in the case of my race) at anyone in particular. But all this has gone far enough.

There are many good space nation/races players here. We are wrongly accused by many modern tech nations who feel we are all automatically godmodders, numberwankers and n00bs. This is to bad, but I sometimes feel that they are justified in their views.

As a result of all of this, from now on, my race is officialy ignoring all "ubertechs".

Oh, and now, since our plan involves escaping via FTL, his entire system is under an FTLi net that he pulled out of his ass in a five-sentence post.

Oh, and now, since our plan involves escaping via FTL, his entire system is under an FTLi net that he pulled out of his ass in a five-sentence post.

Don't be so naive. I began adding him to the network the day he allied with the AoN. (several weeks ago) It wasn't something he pulled out of his ass, it was him responding to me RPing how the AoN defence works. I have had system-wide FTLi for quite a long time. Me adding a new AoN "member" to the AoN network is not very unreasonable. It's not even uber-tech. It doesn't stop most forms of FTL completely. It works like a web, catching ships trying to get in (or out) and holding them there for about 30-55 seconds, as they break free. Stop making blind accusations just because you may not be able to wipe out an entire system unhindered anymore.

Well, it just so happens he announced it's greatness, existance, and activation all in one three-sentence post. Forgive my cry of Godmod.

as i said i would be willing to moderate this rp. This is just falling into OOC rantings and squabbling.

CF: The nothingspace shielding is what I called Temporal shielding before I knew that the system I was describing was temporal shielding. Got that?

My tech is not super, CF. It is just as your bomb. There are many ways to defeat it, you just would rather call it a godmod and not have to deal with it than to actually think about a way to defeat it. I've told you how it works, I've told IE how it works, and yet, no one gives a freakin' care!

Second, yes, I do have a right to complain to the ESUS. Where did you post that you've been working on it for the last seven weeks, eh?

I am not blatantly godmodding, last I checked Temporal Technology was not an indefeatable tech. I have been questioned on my technology time and again. I have been questioned on my military time and again. By those who fight against me. A few of these same nations were okay with the Reagan when we fought against the Shivans...

The point of this was war. CF, my technology allows for the same thing as your "uberbombs", so I wouldn't complain.

I'm starting a new thread. It will be kept to IC only. This and the other thread will become OOC. Is that clear?

Your tech IS super. Can you defeat a nothingspace/temporal shield without resorting to technobabbel? Can you defeat it with conventional weapons. If so, how?

My bombs have several stages that they can be easily destroyed before they'll do a lick of damage. And you DON'T need some specialized 'pull out of my ass at the last minute' technology to beat it. You just need a weapon. Any decent capital ship weapon. Can you say the same about your temporal shields?

As I said before, I can easily invent a technobabbel solution involving emitted neutrons and duct tape to circumvent your shields, but I perfer not to. I feel it takes away from the RP by resorting to technobabbel. If of course there is a tactical way to beat your shields, then perhaps I would be more apt to keep my uberbombs in storage. But there doesn't seem to be, especially when you only need to be in real space for a nanosecond or so to fire and then hop right back into ass space.

Basically, these shields of yours appear to have no decent disadvantages. For instance, my nearest equivelent, blink shields, asorb weapons energy and use that to power the shields. But when the enemy stops firing, they go down. And it takes an hour for them to recycle.

What are the disadvantages of yours?

Temporal tech is virtually undefeatable. Unless you retaliate with temporal tech, or you wank/technobabbel your way out of it.

Also note that I don't mind your Ubership. You only have one, so it's perfectly acceptable. It's just those shields and the other tech that I object to.

I should also point out that I keep my uberbombs in storage specifically for situations like this, where tech gets so cheap that to level the playing field, you HAVE to use such a weapon. If you're willing to be decent and not powergame your tech, the I would be perfectly willing to put my uberbomb back into cold storage.

Also, Penguenia has already beat you to the punch. It's the Interstellar war thread IIRC.

Edit: I've put the uberbomb back into storage on a provisionary basis. If you start to powergame, it comes right back out as an equalizer.

ok. At this point in time I have to step in and make a statement. Temporal Tech is not all powerful. In fact there are ways to completely get around it. For example, despite our much more significant advantages in the field, Indra Prime has not found a powersource stable enough to provide a constant Temporal Shield. If we indeed attempted to maintain our shielding for a prolonged period of time, we would erase our ship. If the shield is used for too long, the field inverts, and basically acts like a Temporal Disruptor but in a confined space, thus erasing the ship. Definitely not a good thing to have happen to a warship. Now despite what you may all think, Temporal Shielding does NOT protect a ship from conventional weaponry. The frequency of the shielding are too different. If a ship bombarded our ships with conventional weaponry, just like any other ship, the shields would be weakened with each sustained hit. That is why my ships have two different type of energy shielding and a couple of different physical shielding that we use on all vessels. Same goes with any form of temporal weaponry, though I can probably safely say that no nation has been able to develop weapons that would actually do anything of any consequence. So any nation that says that their temporal technology is continuous, is definitely a boatload of crap, seeing that the most advanced nation in that field has yet to create a way to do it.

Oh and this information has been OOC, besides, no one knows of our weakness so they cannot use it IC.

ooc> Since this is the ooc descussion location, I have a suggestion. First, I think we all know, that if left to our own devices, this will result in a bold attack on a homesystem followed by a flame fest. Therefore, I suggest a some guidance in this conflict. I could use my new MET weapon on someone's fleet. Obviously, it does't have to be devistating, but it will make the fortress with this weapon the first objective. That could be interesting. Any comments?

OOC:

*sigh*

Ya know, at this point I'm tempted to screw all this "planning", and just send a Battleplate or Superfortress in to conduct 'recon in force'; basicly check things out from the system's edge and maybe trade some long range fire with the deffending fleet befor ducking back out.

Only problem is the risk inherent in taking on a new foe who's tricks and tactics are largly unknown; 'cause my ships are big, expensive, and would take 2-3 RL months to replace, they're not something Kanuckistan'll readily risk loosing ICly.

But watching this, I'm aproaching the point of not caring anymore.

Communique

From: Fleet Admiral Warner, Lawrence M., CnC Tekanian Stellar Navy, BSG-1 TRSS Orion
To: All Applicable Parties

The Republic has heard continuing traffic on channels regarding this "conflict" and wishes to hear more information on it's surrounding circumstances. And if any assitance is needed. While the Republic will not get directly involved at this point, she would be willing to dispatch the 3rd Fleet to guard shiping lanes through any "conflict" regions. -EOM-

ooc> kanuckistan: I understand, really. Most of the AoN wont even post in this war because they know what it is going to devolve into. "My fleet is bigger". I was mearly trying to save this RP.

Although, you may find this interesting: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=351725

ooc> I am about to drop out of this conflict. It's not worth it. None of the AoN members really want to take part in this, they know what it will devolve into. Not to mention that there are so many people posting, I have no friggin' clue what is really going on. Grrrr.

ooc> I am about to drop out of this conflict. It's not worth it. None of the AoN members really want to take part in this, they know what it will devolve into. Not to mention that there are so many people posting, I have no friggin' clue what is really going on. Grrrr.

OOC:
Well, things atleast seem to have gotten better; the RP is moving ahead in the other thread.