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New Patrol SSG available - Juliett-II, ideal for newer nations.

DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 02:30
Juliet-II/Project 651M SSG

http://www.subnetitalia.it/skkJulettphoto1.jpg
Juliett-II prototype BR-1 minus outboard decoy pods heading to sea for tests, March 2004.

Overview


Project 651 (NATO designation - Juliett) was ordered by the Soviet Navy in the late 1950s to provide a nuclear strike capability against the US homeland, particularly East Coast cities. The Juliett had four nuclear armed cruise missiles on board, and ten torpedo tubes with up to 22 torpedoes. The time required for the first missile launch was about 4.5 minutes, with the second after 10 seconds. The missiles were launched from the surface, while the submarine was moving at a speed of up to 4 knots. Initially armed with the P-5 [SS-N-3C Shaddock] inertially-guided missile, it was subsequently equipped with more accurate cruise missiles (the P-6 SS-N-3A Shaddock, and the later P-500 4K-80 Bazalt SS-N-12 Sandbox) which were deployed on these submarines for targeting American aircraft carriers.

Following the commencement of conversion of 100 Delta-IV SSBNs to the Delta-V SSGN configuration, the Naval Staff identified a notable gap in the Navy's considerable armoury: a conventional guided missile submarine, prossessing the endurance for long submarine and/or surfaced patrols and possibly oceangoing combat, but being relatively cheaper than nuclear-powered alternatives and just as effective in its' assigned role.

The Naval Office was instructed by the MoD to devise a specification for a new SSG to compliment the existing SS classes used for coastal patrol and brown-water Naval roles. In the process of considering the specification, a number of factors had to be considered. The ship was not intended to undertake very long voyages to conduct strikes, nor was it intended to pack as much of a punch, ship for ship, as its' nuclear-powered stable-mate, the Oscar-III SSGN. What it was intended to be was simple to build and maintain, cheap, capable of performing patrol of bases and outlying outposts effectively, and above all else stealthy. The Juliett-class, suitably modified, was felt to be an ideal starting point for such design work; the design was completed by the Naval Office's own maritime engineers, thus making this the first vessel designed by the Navy, for the Navy.


General

Displacement (tons): 3,174 Tons Surfaced
3,636 Tons surfaced with additional fuel
4,137 Tons Submerged

Speed (kts): ~20 knots Surfaced
17 knots Dived

Operating Depth: 290m/957Ft maximum Safe Depth
400m/1,320Ft crush depth

Dimensions: Length 90m
Beam 10m
Draught 7m

Endurance: 90 days
9,870 miles surfaced at 8 knots
19,100 miles surfaced at 7 knots with maximum fuel load
900 miles submerged at 2,74 knots
800 hours submerged endurance at 2 knots.

Crew: 12 Officers
16 NCOs
54 Seamen

Costs: $340,000,000 (building)
$5,000,000 (armament)
Total cost for new vessel: $345,000,000

$5,000,000 (operating cost per annum)


Armament

The main armament of the Juliett-II SSG is 12 SS-N-27 (3M-14E/3M-54E1) cruise missiles. These are carried in four groups of three launchers in the position formerly used to house the SS-N-3/P-35 (and later SS-N-12/P-350) anti-ship missiles.

The missiles are launched vertically within their launch containers using charges of compressed gas. Once the launchers have left the ship, the cap at the front of the launch container is removed by a small compressed air charge, and the missile then exits the container by activating its' first-stage boost motor. Once at the correct altitude (pre-selected and fed into the missile's computer), the second-stage booster kicks in; at this point the wings and control surfaces unfold and the missile begins flying toward its' target atapproximately Mach 0.4-0.5. Rate of fire is one missile every three seconds. No reloads are carried.

The SS-N-27/3M54 missile is in the versions used aboard these ships a subsonic weapon. The 3M-14E has a ballistic flightpath and inertial guidance; it is designed for use against land-based targets, but with an anti-ship capability, i.e. against ships at anchor with known co-ordinates.

The 3M54E1 is guided inertially to a point approximately 10-15Km from the target ship (again, selected and fed into the missile's computer), at which point it activates its' own guidance/targeting radar, drops to sea-level, and accelerates to between Mach 0.6 and 0.8 by activating its third-stage booster.

The Juliett-II also carries six 533mm (21in) torpedo tubes. These can fire any of the following weapons:

Torpedoes: UGST, SET-65, USET-80, USET-95, SAET-60, SAET-80, 53-65M (Wake-homing), 53-65K (Wake-homing). Provision is also made for adaptation to fire the Mk48 torpedo.

Missiles: SS-N-15, SS-N-16 (Anti-submarine weapons) SS-N-21 (Land-attack missile).


Ammunition allocations

18 Torpedoes/Missiles (standard mix 12 torpedoes, 4 SS-N-15/16, 2 SS-N-21)

12 3M54E1 (SS-N-27) multi-role cruise missiles.


Protection and survivability

Though it is not armoured, the Juliett-II is given some protection by the following means:

* Titanium-alloy honeycombed separation of approx. 1m between inner and outer hulls;

* The free-flood holes in the casing can be hydraulically closed;

* Cluster Guard anechoic tiles covering hull;

* Double-rafting of all propulsion machinery;

* Four detachable decoy pods attached to outer hull, launched by compressed air charges, similar to MOSS but stationary;

* Compartmentation scheme (compartments divided by 40mm titanium alloy bulkheads):

1) Torpedo room. Bulkhead separating compartments 1 and 2 lies 0.8m aft of forward diving planes.
2) Living accommodation, forward batteries.
3) Missile control, batteries.
4) Submarine control area (forward half of sail).
5) Living accommodation, two banks of batteries (after half of sail).
6) Diesel engines, generators.
7) Electric motors.
8) Batteries, living accommodation.


Sensors/Electronics


Radar

Snoop Half Surface Search radar

Sonar

Rim Hat Active Intercept array
Shark Gill (MGK-503) Cylindrical Sonar array
Shark Rib Flank array
Mouse Roar MG-519 High-frequency Under-ice and Mine-hunting sonar set
Pithon Towed array

Other

2 Periscopes (1 search, 1 attack)
1 MKO-612 IRST system
1 Bulava ESM system
1 Bell Slam ECM jamming array
1 Cross Loops communications intercept array
1 RK-713 long-range VHF radio
1 RK-55 VLF receiver
1 RKF-2 floating VHF communications buoy
1 Kosov SatNav system
1 INav-10 Inertial Navigation system
1 KG-22 fire-control computer, with datalink to sensor systems


Propulsion

2 3,300 Hp "Deltic" pattern diesel engines, water-cooled, with air scoop integrated into schnorckel;
2 500 Hp electric motors, one 220 Hp low-speed electric motor;
2 propeller shafts, direct drive from diesel engines and by direct-drive from electric motors;
2 six-bladed bronze propellers, diameter approx. 2.8m.

Bunkerage: 300 tonnes Ag-Zn batteries, 178 tonnes diesel oil.

http://home.online.no/~onikolai/images/Murmansk/Juliet01.jpg
In this photograph, BR-1 can be seen under construction. Alongside are an India-class AGSS and a Tango-class SS used for crew traning.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/theater/juliettenew1.jpg
BR-1 running tests off Park Isle.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/theater/j4.jpg
BR-1 is pictured on tests, running at about 10 knots of Winter Island.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/theater/Juliett-DNST8204648.JPG
Another photograph of BR-1 running trials, this time off Markov's Isle.

As with all our arms systems, background checks upon interested parties will be run prior to any sales being authorised. We reserve the right to refuse a sale to a nation for any reason, and also to refuse to give reason for our stature. We also reserve the right to at any time during shipment of the vessel or prior to its' arrival in the recipient nation rescind our acqiescance to purchase of the vessel and return it to us. The purchaser in this case will receive a full refund of any expended monies.
Greenmanbry
03-09-2004, 12:58
The Dominion's Navy would like to purchase 10 of these fine vessels, for a grand sum of $3,405,000,000
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 13:01
But of course. You even get a 10% discoount for being an ally. Total cost is therefore $3,371,000,000. The vessels will be constructed for you alongside the ones building for our Navy. Delivery time will be approximately 5 years. (5 RL days) Please don't hesistate to come and ask us if there are any problems.
Sevaris
03-09-2004, 13:25
We would like to order five of these vessels. $ 1,702,500,000 will be wired upon confirmation.
Hallad
03-09-2004, 13:33
We suggest the DPUO government not to ship to this nation. They have recently banned Socialism in their nation, and we believe that is Extreme Right Wing. Your call, comrades.

The Commissariat of Foreign Affairs
The Socialist Federation of Hallad
Sevaris
03-09-2004, 13:38
We suggest the DPUO government not to ship to this nation. They have recently banned Socialism in their nation, and we believe that is Extreme Right Wing. Your call, comrades.

The Commissariat of Foreign Affairs
The Socialist Federation of Hallad

We're right wing- but not extreme right. Ask him for proof.
Voderlund
03-09-2004, 13:44
Costs: $340,000,000 (building)
$5,000,000 (armament)
Total cost for new vessel: $340,500,000

Shouldn't total cost for a new vessel be 345,000,000?
Hallad
03-09-2004, 13:44
OOC: Oh yeah, that reminds me, there's a Juliett class Soviet Sub in Providence (Rhode Island, I live 15 minutes away). I've gone on the tour multiple times. It's the Sub that they filmed K-19 in.
Ronamiana
03-09-2004, 13:56
OOC: Oh yeah, that reminds me, there's a Juliett class Soviet Sub in Providence (Rhode Island, I live 15 minutes away). I've gone on the tour multiple times. It's the Sub that they filmed K-19 in.
I loved that movie. Harrison Ford is the greatest in the movie.
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 13:59
OOC: Really? I heard it wasn't all that good :( Oh well, I'll try and get hold of it. Spot the errors lol. (BTW I love the Julietts, they're my favourite submarines!)
The ship in question is B-77 - and God she must be beautiful. I'd love to go around her - you'd never get me off mind you!
And ta Voderlund, can't believe I did that. It should say cost or armament 5 mill, you're dead on.

IC: We are currently debating sales to Sevaris. Our dealings with them in the past have shown then to be a more moderate nations than one might suspect.
Sanctaphrax
03-09-2004, 14:08
Is it 345 Million?
if so then Sanctaphrax would like to purchase 1.35 Billion (I think) worth of ships (3).
Hallad
03-09-2004, 14:09
http://www.juliett484.org/juliett/
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 14:11
After careful consideration, it has been decided to authorise sales to both Sevaris and Sanctaphrax. Delivery time for each order will be approximately 16 months for the Sanctaphraxian order, and 38 months for the Sevarisian order. (1 and 2 RL days)
Sanctaphrax
03-09-2004, 14:13
After careful consideration, it has been decided to authorise sales to both Sevaris and Sanctaphrax. Delivery time for each order will be approximately 16 months for the Sanctaphraxian order, and 38 months for the Sevarisian order. (1 and 2 RL days)
Thank you,
the money has been wired.
Sevaris
03-09-2004, 14:15
After careful consideration, it has been decided to authorise sales to both Sevaris and Sanctaphrax. Delivery time for each order will be approximately 16 months for the Sanctaphraxian order, and 38 months for the Sevarisian order. (1 and 2 RL days)

Thanks. Cash has been wired.
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 16:07
The Island Telegraph

B-401 Commissioned into Fleet

Following months of exhaustive testing among the Eastern Islands, the first of a planned total of 170 Juliett-II diesel-powered Patrol Cruise Missile Submarines was today commissioned into the Northern Fleet. There was cheering and shouting as the ship pushed her way through the red ribon across her bows to become first of the new class to join the Fleet. Many workers from the shipyard where she was built lined the dockside.

The Naval Office has declared that the J-II submarine will provide "invaluable capability against enemy surface ships attempting to enter our waters, and considerably decrease the strain on the nuclear cruise-missile submarine forces." However, a spokesperson for the pacifistic group People Against State Terrorism claimed that the J-II was "yet another example of the innate aggressiveness of this Government and their willingness to expent vast funds on military spending that could be better used elsewhere," and condemned the construction of the ship, which can also carry nuclear-capable missiles, as "a further disturbing example of the trend toward nuclear proliferation."

A speaker for the Naval Office was unable to comment on whether these ships will go to sea with the nuclear-capable SS-N-21 long-range cruise missile under normal peacetime conditions. She was however able to assure the Telegraph that "these ships will not be used irresponsibly, and neither will their payloads."
Nireva
03-09-2004, 16:44
Total cost for new vessel: $345,000,000

The Republic of Nireva needs some submarines, so, we'll buy 100 of them.

If they're good, we'll buy even more.

Total cost: $34,500,000,000 = $34,500 million = $34.5 billion.

Money wired, once confirmed.
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 16:52
This order has been confirmed; due to the rather large order, completion time will be long. Nonetheless, your ships have been allocated "High" preiority (second-highest priority, after "Immediate"), so you can expect them all within 5 years and 5 months.
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 18:00
Bump
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 20:49
bmp, sales anyone?
DontPissUsOff
03-09-2004, 23:05
bump
Nireva
04-09-2004, 09:37
bmp, sales anyone?

Bmp.. Did you mean "bump" or "BMW?" :rolleyes:
Bump for you. :)
DontPissUsOff
05-09-2004, 14:55
hey thanks mate...*stealth bump* :mp5:

Hey, I need to vent my n00b side on occasion OK? :p
DontPissUsOff
10-09-2004, 01:34
bump
Nireva
10-09-2004, 12:58
bump

No BMW this time? ;)
Stealth Bump. [No one notices!]
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 03:19
bump
Irigrium
03-10-2004, 08:58
The Irigrii Navy is in need of a submarine to defend our coasts. Therefore, the decision has been made to purchase a total of ten (10) fine vessels.

The total bill of 3.45 Billion will be wired upon confirmation.
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 09:05
We have returned for more subs, 17 to be exact. Could you please work out the price for me?
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 13:43
Irigrii Navy order confirmed. Cost confirmed as correct. Delivery time is approximately 8 months. The ships will come fitted with a full weapon loadout.

Sanctaphrax order confirmed. As a member of the ANP, we are giving you a 10% discount, so the cost is now $5,278,500,000. We will deliver these vessels within the year.
Sanctaphrax
03-10-2004, 13:45
Sanctaphrax order confirmed. As a member of the ANP, we are giving you a 10% discount, so the cost is now $5,278,500,000. We will deliver these vessels within the year.
Much appreciated. Money wired.
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 18:49
Bump
Communist Rule
03-10-2004, 18:52
OOC: Reminder...isn't your nuclear reactor dealie coming up soon?
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 18:54
OOC: Yep, three days' time. You might like it, I think. I'm also gonna be building several test subs, a la Russian methods, for various new junk shortly.
Ottoman Khaif
03-10-2004, 19:42
The Ottoman Navy will buy up 20 Juliett-II for $6.9 Billion dollar
yours
Subhead of Navy- Fleet Admiral Hassan Pasha III
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2000/504/diwan4.jpg
DontPissUsOff
03-10-2004, 21:14
Confirmed. Your ships will be finished within 2 years.
DontPissUsOff
04-10-2004, 23:35
Bump
Layarteb
24-10-2004, 01:21
Nice design DPUO. I like how you revive the old stuff. Could I get one for the purposes of "weapons" testing.
Urbh Yueh
24-10-2004, 01:22
I'd like to purchase two for $680M total, without weapons. Money would be wired upon confirmation.
DontPissUsOff
25-10-2004, 17:36
All vessels required by Urbh Yueh are under construction and will be sent to you as they are finished.

Layarteb's previous anti-Left stance makes us suspicious of the intentions of that nation, and thus we will have to consider before agreement can be reached.
Layarteb
25-10-2004, 17:44
All vessels required by Urbh Yueh are under construction and will be sent to you as they are finished.

Layarteb's previous anti-Left stance makes us suspicious of the intentions of that nation, and thus we will have to consider before agreement can be reached.

Go right ahead...
United Elias
25-10-2004, 17:50
Is it any different to the original Julliets? if not its about as quiet as a freight train running over a wooden bridge. There's a reason they called their early boats 'atomic tractors'! :D
DontPissUsOff
25-10-2004, 21:41
Yep, very different. New motors, new triple-rafting of them, ducted props, gels around the machinery, all sorts of things. Admittedly on diesels it's noisy as hell, but then again, occupational hazard of the diesel boat.