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FA-22K Tank On The Market

Fracene
31-08-2004, 07:51
The FA-22K has been equipped steel encased depleted uranium armor, as the Abrahms M1A1. Due to it's depleted uranium armor, the vehicle is also protected against NBC warfare (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical). The FA-22K contains a Main Crew Cabin, Weapons Storage, an Ammunition Compartment, and enough rations to laset a crea up to 3 weeks. Each compartments is separated from one another by one or more armored bulkheads. Like the M1-A1 the top panels of the FA-22K have also been designed to move outwards if penetrated by a HEAT projectile.

FA-22K Side View
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=56512

If the link above does not work try the following:

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/2843/FA-22K.jpg

ARMAMENT
2 FC-220 Heavy Machine Guns, 4 rear facing FC-221 16mm defense turrets, Dual RM-66 110 mm guns. The main armament is the 175mm F285 Digorean Gun, created by Jaquer Laumou of Fraces. The 175mm F285 Digorean Gun uses several types of rounds.

The F880 TLDWDT-M and F890 KX-T (training rounds).

The F7200 HEAT-MP-T and the F631 AVSXDB-M.

Both the F7200 HEAT-MP-T and the F631 AVSXDB-M include depleted uranium penetrator.

The Dual RM-66 110 mm guns use the the following rounds the F520 JGKLTR-M and the F6500 HEAT-MP-A.

The commander has a 13.66mm Lucouz M4 machine gun and the loader has a 9.34mm F210 machine gun. A 9.34mm F210 machine gun is also mounted coaxially on the right hand side of the main armament.

The FG-22K is slightly larger than an M-1 yet it performs just as well, if not better than it. The M1 is equipped with a Earhardt BVT 3250 gas turbine engine. The Markson T-2100-6K transmission provides six forward and three reverse gears. The new engine is slightly smaller than the M1's engine and is lighter, with rapid acceleration, quieter running and no visible exhaust. The Markson T-2100-6K is a 3000 horsepower engine, allowing the tank to reach speeds of up to 70mph/112.654 kmph



FA-22K
Crew === 9 - Driver, Commander, Gunner (+5), Loader (+1)
Weight === 159,328 Pounds / 75.27 Tons
Dimensions
Length with main gun forward === 430 inches / 10.922 meters
Turret height === 98.7 inches / 2.50698 meters
Width === 150 inches / 381 Centimeters
Ground clearance === 20 inches / 50.8 Centimeters
Ground pressure === 17.65 p.s.i.
Propulsion === Gas turbine engine, 3000 horsepower
Transmission === hydrokinetic transmission, 6 forward gears, 3 reverse gears
Power-to-weight ratio === 25.3 hp/ton
Performance
Maximum governed speed === 70 m.p.h. / 112.654 Kmph
Speed cross country === 40 m.p.h. / 64.3738 Kmph
Speed, 10% slope === 29.3 m.p.h. / 47.1538 Kmph
Speed 60% slope === 10.12 m.p.h. / 16.2866 Kmph
Acceleration === 0 to 20 m.p.h. in 7.31 seconds
Range === 290 miles cruising
Obstacle crossing
Vertical === 55 inches / 1.397 Meters
Trench ===10 feet / 3.048 Meters
Main armament === 175 mm F285 Digorean Gun
Coaxial Weapon === 9.34mm, F210
Loader's Weapon === 9.34mm F210 , M240, on Skate mount
Commander's weapon === 13.66mm Lucouz M4, on powered rotary platform
NBC protection: === 220 SCFM, clean cooled air

Each tank comes fully equipped with each gun named in the description. Also included with the purchase of an FA-22K Tank are 2000 rounds for each type of machine gun and 50 standard shells for each of the dual RM-66 110 mm guns and the 175mm F285 Digorean Gun (50 rounds of F520 JGKLTR-M's for the RM-66 110 mm guns and 50 rounds of F631 AVSXDB-M's for the 175 mm F285 Digorean Guns). Spare parts for the tanks are also available when needed.


The FA-22K is manufactured by Larduct Motor Company and has been tested on the field. Each tank are routine checked and maintained daily for top performance.

The FA-22K is priced at USD $15,950,000.--
Czecholoski
31-08-2004, 08:17
The Czecho military is willing to buy 50 FA-22K's with additional parts and ammunition for each tank. Czecholoski is offering USD $190,000,000.-- for each tank and the additional items.
Tecrojia
31-08-2004, 08:31
Tecrojia would like to purchase 100 FA-22K's for USD $370,000,000.--. In addition to the 370 million, Tecrojia will add an additional 2.3 million for spare guns(4 of each of the following: FC-220, FC-221 16mm, RM-66 110 mm guns, 175mm F285 Digorean Gun, 13.66mm Lucouz M4, and 9.34mm F210 machine gun), and ammunition (especially for the F7200 HEAT-MP-T and the F631 AVSXDB-M rounds). Tecrojia will also pay for shipping expenses to ensure safety of the product and to ensure that Tecrojia is not given any damaged products.


Total Offer: USD $375,350,000--
Lexustralany
31-08-2004, 09:34
Lexustralany is interested in purchasing 100 FA-22K's from Fracene.

Total: USD $370,000,000.--
Harlesburg
31-08-2004, 09:43
A message from the glorious leader of
THE CONFEDERACY OF HARLESBURG
Greetings we would like to purchase the rights to manufacture these beasts of war is this possible
Tippman
31-08-2004, 09:53
I will take 2, to ensure there quality...
Lexustralany
31-08-2004, 10:20
Must say... that IS a rather interesting looking tank.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 10:33
2 FA-22K Tanks will be delivered to Tippman as soon as possible.

50 FA-22K Tanks will be delivered to Czecholoski as soon as possible.

100 FA-22K Tanks will be delivered to Tecrojia as soon as possible.

100 FA-22K Tanks will be delivered to Lexustralany as soon as possible.


Do not be surprised when the ammunition and/or spare parts arrive before the AVF itself. These are sent out ahead of the tank for a purpose. A nation may wish to purchase more ammunition if it feels the supplied number is insufficient or a nation may have accidentally shorthanded. Larduct Motors and the government of Fracene thank you for your purchases and hope to do business with you again in the future.

As for the rights to manufacture the tank and perhaps modifying it, your request is being debated and you shall be notified shortly.

Joseph Clemoux_________________________General Davidi Rouseou
International Representative_______________Fracene Mechanized Division
Larduct Motor Company__________________Army of Fracene
Axis Nova
31-08-2004, 10:37
OOC: Seems a bit light for something so big. Especially with all those turrets.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 10:51
OOC: Seems a bit light for something so big. Especially with all those turrets.


The Abrahms M1A1 is about 69 tons, versus the FA-22K's 70 tons. It's not THAT much bigger than the M1...
Praetonia
31-08-2004, 11:09
Considering it has 3 main guns and two turrets, it is considerably heavy and should be considerably bigger.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 11:17
Considering it has 3 main guns and two turrets, it is considerably heavy and should be considerably bigger.


Perhaps a little more weight would be better. It shall be fixed.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 11:22
Perhaps a little more weight would be better. It shall be fixed.


Weight and size have been modified.
Burnity Death
31-08-2004, 11:27
Burnity death will gladly take 200 of these so our name will be more appropriate.

Total: $740,000,000
Fracene
31-08-2004, 11:43
2 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Tippman.

50 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Czecholoski.

100 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Tecrojia.

100 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Lexustralany.

200 FA-22K Tanks will be sent to Burnity Death as soon as possible.


Again, do not be surprised when the ammunition and/or spare parts arrive before the AVF itself. These are sent out ahead of the tank for a purpose. A nation may wish to purchase more ammunition if it feels the supplied number is insufficient or a nation may have accidentally shorthanded. Larduct Motors and the government of Fracene thank you for your purchases and hope to do business with you again in the future.

Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Rotsonne
31-08-2004, 11:50
The Holy Empire of Rotsonne would like to purchase 100 of these tanks.

We'll offer 370,000,000 USD just like everyone else. Thanks, and good day.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 11:59
The Holy Empire of Rotsonne would like to purchase 100 of these tanks.

We'll offer 370,000,000 USD just like everyone else. Thanks, and good day.


100 FA-22K's will be delivered to Rotsonne as soon as possible.

The ammunition will be sent ahead of the tank.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 12:33
New FA-29K has been developed and is currently being tested. If the tests are a success the results will be posted and the tank will be on the market.
The O Faolains
31-08-2004, 12:41
The Celtic Clan Empire of the O Faolains wishes to put in a request for 50 of the new FA-29K Tanks, on successful Testing, with Ammunition naturally. The money will be wired on arrival of the Price. A reciept would be helpful for our Accountants.

Yours

Arkadi Strenlikov ~ Internal Defence Minister
Axis Nova
31-08-2004, 12:43
Still seems a bit too light for so many guns, unless you're skimping on armor.

It seems a bit underpowered as well.
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 12:43
Pwnica wishes to purchase 500 of these tanks, which totals $1,850,000,000. We will also add $5,000,000 for much spare parts and ammunition.

In addition, if you allow the sale of production rights (no-resale and non-disclosure, obviously), we wish to purchase those too.

The total of $1,855,000,000 has been wired.

Signed,
General Glyfforian,
Pwnica Ground/Sea forces.
Nireva
31-08-2004, 13:08
Ooc. It seems to be big. On picture. And many guns. Somekinda leading tank?
And it's pretty cheap. For being big tank.

The Republic of Nireva will buy 5 of these, for testing purposes.
Total: $18.5 million [$18,500,000]

Money wired, once confirmed.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 13:33
200 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Burnity Death along with the ammunition provided.

100 FA-22K Tanks have been delivered to Ratsonne with the ammunition provided for the tanks.

500 FA-22K Tanks have been transported to Pwnica along with additional ammunition to the already provided stock. Spare parts for the tank have also been shipped to Pwnica in addition to the large quantity of ammunition.

5 FA-22K tanks have been shipped to Nireva along with the provided ammunition for each tank.

Total Earnings: USD $2,983,500,000.--

One has asked our nation why we make these tanks? Yes, we are a young nation, and we may not specialize in arms tech. Not all around, at least. Tanks are the only types of arms tech we specialize in at all. What about the money, you ask? What does any other country do? They buget. They take their money, spend it on one thing, sell it, and make a profit off of that in order to increase the money that goes home in the little guy's pocket. We've also realized that for our nation to actually get anywhere in this world, we need to do something that will get us recognized. Tanks seem to be doing the trick. So, we're simply going from the old pizza parlours and soda cans to tanks. Seems as if our plan is working. You get World Class Tanks and our economy grows. Your home lands stay safe and your militaries grow stronger, while the poverty levels in our nation steadily drop.

Larduct Motors thanks each of the nations which have chosen the FA-22K. We appreciate your purchases and hope to continue to do business in the future. As for the new model tank being tested, we have a small offer. Not that it is for impression of any sort, but the nation which purchases the most model FA-22K Tanks will receive 10 of the new tanks, IF they are proven worthy of combat. Once again, we thank you for your support through purchasing our vehicles. :)



Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 13:38
What's the word on the proddy rights?
Fracene
31-08-2004, 13:46
What's the word on the proddy rights?

About production rights. You ask if you may buy the rights to manufacture the AVF's. Seeing as the plan can be either to increase the size of military, sell them yourself, or enhance them and do one or both of the previous we pose our own question. If you do in fact sell them or sell modified FA-22K's would you be willing to send a percentage of the revenue you make to Fracene?



Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 13:49
We rarely sell anything anyways, and when we do it's either: A. Pwnica produced stuff (that doesn't include unmodified/modified versions of items purchased from other countries), or B. RL units, such as the M1A2, F-22, etc.

If you want to make sure anyway though, I'm sure we can agree on a fair amount of money to be sent to you from any sale of the tank, even though I can assure you it won't be sold on our part.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 13:53
We rarely sell anything anyways, and when we do it's either: A. Pwnica produced stuff (that doesn't include unmodified/modified versions of items purchased from other countries), or B. RL units, such as the M1A2, F-22, etc.

If you want to make sure anyway though, I'm sure we can agree on a fair amount of money to be sent to you from any sale of the tank, even though I can assure you it won't be sold on our part.

We'd like to know what sounds good to you.

Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Tecrojia
31-08-2004, 13:59
Tecrojia would like to purchase 200 more FA-22K's with additional munitions and spare parts. Tecrojia is willing to put in USD $740,000,000.-- for the tanks and an extra USD $17,000,000.-- for ammunition and parts. In addition to that money, Tecrojia will transfer USD $1,500,000.-- for the safe and speedy transporation of all of the items to Tecrojia.

Total Offered: USD $758,500,000.--


Thank you.
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 14:00
(OOC: I seriously don't know what a good percentage would be, so I'm just throwing something out here. If it's too low/high, tell me.)

We propose the contract to include the following:

If Pwnica was to make any modifications to the FA-22K Tank, we will show you these modifications, but we would not be obliged to divulge the exact workings of them, etc.

If Pwnica was to sell the item with or without any modifications made to it, we would be obliged to send 7.5% of the revenue of the sale to Fracene.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 14:07
We were thinking somewhere along the lines of 10-15%. Perhaps 12.5% would be more reasonable in between those two numbers seeing that it benefits us, yet it's low enough to keep the numbers below 1/6 of the money made on selling the tank. Do we have a deal?

Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 14:12
12.5% is agreeable.

So, how much money would you like in exchange for these rights?
Lexustralany
31-08-2004, 14:13
I must say that I commend you on a job well done. The bloody machines get the job done, alright! The FA-22K is a splendid work of art. Now it's time to show terrorists not to bomb our buildings!


King James II
King of Lexustralany
Fracene
31-08-2004, 14:17
12.5% is agreeable.

So, how much money would you like in exchange for these rights?



Keep in mind that the rights you are asking for do not give you sole rights to manufacturing the machines. If you are aware of this, the price is at USD $35,000,000.--

Any further questions and/or comments shall not be answered for a couple of hours. So, if you have any just post and you will be answered as soon as possible. Thank you.

Joseph Clemoux
International Representative
Larduct Motor Company
Morkinda
31-08-2004, 14:19
I would like to purchase 50 of those tanks.
Pwnica
31-08-2004, 14:19
We understand this, and accept it. The money has been wired, with our thanks.
Fracene
31-08-2004, 22:37
The FA-22K is still on the market! Nation with the most model 22's purchased will be awarded 10 brand new FA-29K Tanks. That's right! The new FA-29K has been proven worth of combat. The 29 is not available on the market, at the moment, but this is your chance to win 10 FREE model 29's.

If you do not wish to go for the prize, you can still purchase the FA-22K's at USD $15,950,000--.
Chellis
31-08-2004, 22:45
Another tank that is way too big, way too fast, and way too cheap...*sigh*
Fracene
31-08-2004, 22:52
Another tank that is way too big, way too fast, and way too cheap...*sigh*

Too cheap, eh? Okay...
Fracene
31-08-2004, 22:54
Another tank that is way too big, way too fast, and way too cheap...*sigh*


The price has been refined.
Lexustralany
31-08-2004, 23:16
That's a might big jump. Glad we purchased before it. We'd still like to make a purchase for more ammunition.
Rusiom
01-09-2004, 06:35
Rusiom will purchase 501 FA-22K Tanks from Fracene.

Total: $7,990,950,000.00
Fracene
01-09-2004, 07:11
Purchase Confirmed.
Fracene
01-09-2004, 07:11
bump
Fracene
01-09-2004, 07:13
bump...
Gilabad
02-09-2004, 02:55
I'l buy 4,000 F-22ks.
Rusiom
02-09-2004, 08:16
no comment...
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:21
I'l buy 4,000 F-22ks.

confirmed

Your bill comes out to $63,800,000,000.00
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:29
bump...
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:31
FA-22K Tanks are short on supply, at the moment. There are only 300 22's remaining. If a nation should request more tanks than there are in stock, be warned that it will take time to fill the order. Thank you.
Sir Leo
02-09-2004, 08:38
The nation of Sir Leo would like to buy the rest of the FA-22K Tanks.

Do you deliver?
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:44
We deliver every tank directly to the client nations, ourselves, to ensure the condition of each.
Sir Leo
02-09-2004, 08:48
The nation of Sir Leo would like these tanks delivered to the nations main army base.
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:56
The nation of Sir Leo would like these tanks delivered to the nations main army base.

The order for 300 FA-22K Tanks has been confirmed. Each tank will be delivered to Sir Leo's Main Army Base. Thank you for purchasing the FA-22K.
Fracene
02-09-2004, 08:58
With the depletion of the FA-22K, Fracene turns to the new FA-29K. Stats on the 29 will be posted soon. If any nation should wish to purchase any FA-22K's at the moment, keep in mind that they will take a while to construct and deliver.
The O Faolains
02-09-2004, 10:08
The Celtic Clan Empire did put in a request for the new 29 tanks, 50 of them, we realise that they will take time to build and deliver but we also wish to know a price, to enter into the budgets.

Yours

Arkadi Strenlikov
South Islandia
02-09-2004, 10:24
The FG-22K is slightly larger than an M-1 yet it performs just as well, if not better than it. The M1 is equipped with a Earhardt BVT 3250 gas turbine engine. The Markson T-2100-6K transmission provides six forward and three reverse gears. The new engine is slightly smaller than the M1's engine and is lighter, with rapid acceleration, quieter running and no visible exhaust. The Markson T-2100-6K is a 3000 horsepower engine, allowing the tank to reach speeds of up to 70mph/112.654 kmph

OOC: You do realize that this tank must be so much larger than an M1, or even a Paladin Self Propelled Artillery system (155mm gun). 175mm gun? Are you insane? The United States Navy doesn't even employ a gun that big anymore on its ships!!!

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m107-slant.jpg

The only 175mm weapon that I know of....
The Great Sixth Reich
02-09-2004, 20:04
The Great Sixth Reich wishes to purchase domestic-only (no exports)production rights for the FA-22K tank, and the FA-29K tank when it comes available.

We will pay $60 B if you allow us produce the two tanks and the ammunition for domestic use only.
Tecrojia
02-09-2004, 21:19
OOC: You do realize that this tank must be so much larger than an M1, or even a Paladin Self Propelled Artillery system (155mm gun). 175mm gun? Are you insane? The United States Navy doesn't even employ a gun that big anymore on its ships!!!

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m107-slant.jpg

The only 175mm weapon that I know of....


I dunno... The M1A1 still uses a larger round than the 54-Caliber (5 inch) guns used on ships today. The 155mm is about the size of a 6 inch and the 175 is just a larger 6 inch. So the cannon itself wouldn't be THAT big. It's not like the tank's hauling around a 15in gun.
Rusiom
03-09-2004, 09:14
So, when will we see the specifications for the 29's?
Rusiom
03-09-2004, 09:15
Bump
Birilia
03-09-2004, 09:19
These are mighty impressive Tanks... Too bad they're sold out. Please let us know when they'll be back in stock. And please let us ALL know about the FA-29K's as soon as you can.
Negrasia
03-09-2004, 09:22
Yes yes... please do hurry to replenish the stock.
South Islandia
03-09-2004, 09:28
I dunno... The M1A1 still uses a larger round than the 54-Caliber (5 inch) guns used on ships today. The 155mm is about the size of a 6 inch and the 175 is just a larger 6 inch. So the cannon itself wouldn't be THAT big. It's not like the tank's hauling around a 15in gun.

The thing is that the vast majority of tanks in the world use 120-125mm sized guns. Uprated power is acheived through other means, such as ElectroThermal Chemical propellants.

175 mm rounds must weigh around 66 kilograms. He claims that this tank is only slightly larger than an M1, yet it's main gun is more than 55% bigger than it. That is not even to mention the fact that it has two more additional 105 mm cannon which are only 12% smaller than the M1A2's...
Italinon
03-09-2004, 09:38
The tank should have more weight in the rear or be heavier all together. Or maybe it should have an anchor in the front or something...
Transilvanie
03-09-2004, 09:46
I want 20 of them equiped with anti-radar detector if it's possible. :sniper:
Capatilissimo
03-09-2004, 10:00
the Republic of Capatilissimo will buy 85 FA-22k tanks with all the gadgets which are available
Fracene
03-09-2004, 21:28
20 with with anti-radar will be constructed, but it will take time for them to be built. We're currently understocked at 16 FA-22K's. Same goes for the 85 requested tanks...
The Great Sixth Reich
03-09-2004, 21:37
The Great Sixth Reich wishes to purchase domestic-only (no exports)production rights for the FA-22K tank, and the FA-29K tank when it comes available.

We will pay $60 B if you allow us produce the two tanks and the ammunition for domestic use only.

Well?
Fracene
03-09-2004, 21:46
For domestic manufacturing... granted.

12.5% of all profit made through the export of any FA-22K or Modification of the FA-22K will be withdrawn and sent to Fracene.
The Great Sixth Reich
04-09-2004, 00:47
For domestic manufacturing... granted.

12.5% of all profit made through the export of any FA-22K or Modification of the FA-22K will be withdrawn and sent to Fracene.

Understood, but I highly doubt I will ever need to export it.
Tecrojia
04-09-2004, 22:00
Since you haven't put the 29 on the market you, do you think you can give us at least some tiny details so we have something to look forward to?
Jackdonia
04-09-2004, 22:16
I will take 489 of the FA22K plese
Fracene
04-09-2004, 22:44
FA-29K

Crew === 5 - Driver, Commander, Gunner (+2), Loader (+1)
Weight === 149,914 Pounds / 68 Tons
Dimensions
Length with main gun forward === 380 inches / 9.652 meters
Turret height === 92.5 inches / 2.3495 meters
Width === 144 inches / 365.76 Centimeters
Ground clearance === 18 inches / 45.72 Centimeters
Ground pressure === 14.72 p.s.i.
Propulsion === Gas turbine engine, 1800 horsepower
Transmission === hydrokinetic transmission, 4 forward gears, 2 reverse gears
Power-to-weight ratio === 22.41 hp/ton
Performance
Maximum governed speed === 47 m.p.h. / 75.6392 Kmph
Speed cross country === 36 m.p.h. / 57.9364 Kmph
Speed, 10% slope === 22.22 m.p.h. / 35.7596 Kmph
Speed 60% slope === 8.32 m.p.h. / 13.3897 Kmph
Acceleration === 0 to 20 m.p.h. in 6.97 seconds
Range === 271 miles cruising
Obstacle crossing
Vertical === 44 inches / 111.76 Centimeters
Trench === 9 feet / 2.7432 Meters
Main armament === 125 mm smooth bore cannon
Coaxial Weapon === 9.34mm, F210
Loader's Weapon === 9.34mm F210 , M240, on Skate mount
Commander's weapon === 13.66mm Lucouz M4, on powered rotary platform
NBC protection: === 200 SCFM, clean cooled air

The FA-29K is not on the market.
Tecrojia
05-09-2004, 21:07
Interesting. When will they be available?
Harlesburg
19-09-2004, 12:45
(OOC)dont feel to bad everyone from the south island is grumpy
Harlesburg
21-09-2004, 10:08
(OOC)wows a FA-29K opposed to a FA-22k?
Ill buy some not sure what yet when they are back on market of course
Neo-Soviet Russia
21-09-2004, 12:10
(OOC: Actually I'll agree with South Islandia when saying that this thing, spec wise, is under weight, under sized, and overly fast. There's no way it's going to have two turrets, a 175mm cannon, dual 110mm guns, and a defense turret playing host to other mgs. Just the room for loader spots, ammo stores, and the gun mechanisms is going to increase the length and width of this thing.

Then again the idea of a 175mm cannon is also a bit off. Not only the size but I may not be correct but isn't there some sort of problem with accurate MBT cannons at 150 or 150mm? A problem involving the arching and the sort. I rememeber it being said somewhere...numerous times.

Course the speed. An engine twice as poweful as the Abrams yet somehow the max speed, 'governed, is 70 miles per hour. Considering this thing should not only be heavier and larger abrams, I doubt this thing actually could go the stated 70, if even the 40 which is maybe 5 to 9 less than the Abrams.

I find this tank to be a joke and a mockery to straight out say.)
Harlesburg
22-09-2004, 09:49
im just really surprised at the coast the LAV GEN-3 dont they cost 600k or 1.3 mil cant remember monetary conversions help still like if they were 3 mil
Harlesburg
01-10-2004, 12:30
In the words of Pink Floyd is there anybody in there?
The Exetonian Empire
01-10-2004, 12:57
The Exetonian Empire would like to purchase 200 of these to help insure that peace and prosperity remain triumphant in our realm, and others, as soon as more become available.

Total number: 200 FA-22Ks
Total Cost: $740,000,000

Exetonia Erwache!